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I haven't noticed any reduction in women to be honest but then I haven't really done any searching since I rejoined.
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"There is a 3 year wait for every woman lol." I'm working my way through the men Shag  | |||
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"It is absolutely huge! A single lady friend of ours let us look at her account one day when she was round our house and frankly her inbox was full of absolute drivel, from the bizarre to the damn right rude. It's no wonder the ladies get to the point where they have had enough and move on." If it frustrates her she needs to use her filters better, but I know what you mean as I've seen a few ladies' inboxes (not a metaphor!  ) and I concur with what you say! | |||
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"1,000-1? I've told you a million times not to exaggerate!
I haven't noticed any reduction in women to be honest but then I haven't really done any searching since I rejoined.
What can we do to entice them back if numbers are reducing? "Maybe do a special offer like the supermarkets.. A buy one, get one free offer on every man and a free chocolate bar thrown in.. Or how about a fab swingers loyalty card.. All women love a loyalty card.. Collect points that can be redeemed on love honey or at boots for ointments and creams.. I certain that'll work...  | |||
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"There is a 3 year wait for every woman lol. I'm working my way through the men Shag "That is good, it will take few years | |||
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"It is absolutely huge! A single lady friend of ours let us look at her account one day when she was round our house and frankly her inbox was full of absolute drivel, from the bizarre to the damn right rude. It's no wonder the ladies get to the point where they have had enough and move on. If it frustrates her she needs to use her filters better, but I know what you mean as I've seen a few ladies' inboxes (not a metaphor! ) and I concur with what you say! "We went through them with her. They were set right and she used the block function. Still got them daily, in the end she just got fed up wading through the shit to find a good meet. | |||
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"It is absolutely huge! A single lady friend of ours let us look at her account one day when she was round our house and frankly her inbox was full of absolute drivel, from the bizarre to the damn right rude. It's no wonder the ladies get to the point where they have had enough and move on. If it frustrates her she needs to use her filters better, but I know what you mean as I've seen a few ladies' inboxes (not a metaphor! ) and I concur with what you say!
We went through them with her. They were set right and she used the block function. Still got them daily, in the end she just got fed up wading through the shit to find a good meet."I still think a lot of the ladies enjoy this "attention" whether its real "I fancy you" or "I need somewhere to put this". If women really want this place to change they need to grow some, block all guys & search for themselves. Of course then that leaves them open to be the rejected one, which for many is a step too far. Some ladies do this but very few. Much safer to search through piles of drose you know are interested to find the one or two nuggets that interest them. If guys couldn't message & had to wait for "customers" you would get fewer wasters, better photos & written profiles & no more hundreds of shite messages. S | |||
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"Is it just me or does the amount of men to woman on the site seem high lately... come back ladies "They're just very busy | |||
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"Is it just me or does the amount of men to woman on the site seem high lately... come back ladies "Can we choose which ones to come back?  | |||
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"I still think a lot of the ladies enjoy this "attention" whether its real "I fancy you" or "I need somewhere to put this". If women really want this place to change they need to grow some, block all guys & search for themselves. Of course then that leaves them open to be the rejected one, which for many is a step too far. Some ladies do this but very few. Much safer to search through piles of drose you know are interested to find the one or two nuggets that interest them. If guys couldn't message & had to wait for "customers" you would get fewer wasters, better photos & written profiles & no more hundreds of shite messages. S" I don't enjoy this kind "attention" at all. In fact it enrages me whenever I have opened my filters and received it. There are some men who seriously don't understand that being treated as a fuck object or a piece of meat is not the way to go to have sex with me. I do exactly what you suggest and have done for some time. I shop around very carefully and find the right people. This does indeed lead to rejection, no man has said no thanks yet but I have been messed around by a few that I approached. Perhaps I didn't choose carefully enough? I found success in the end and it works really well for me. By using the filters, I tend to avoid all the single guys that are only on here because their mate told them to join with the guarantee of a quick fuck. | |||
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"I still think a lot of the ladies enjoy this "attention" whether its real "I fancy you" or "I need somewhere to put this". If women really want this place to change they need to grow some, block all guys & search for themselves. Of course then that leaves them open to be the rejected one, which for many is a step too far. Some ladies do this but very few. Much safer to search through piles of drose you know are interested to find the one or two nuggets that interest them. If guys couldn't message & had to wait for "customers" you would get fewer wasters, better photos & written profiles & no more hundreds of shite messages. S I don't enjoy this kind "attention" at all. In fact it enrages me whenever I have opened my filters and received it. There are some men who seriously don't understand that being treated as a fuck object or a piece of meat is not the way to go to have sex with me. I do exactly what you suggest and have done for some time. I shop around very carefully and find the right people. This does indeed lead to rejection, no man has said no thanks yet but I have been messed around by a few that I approached. Perhaps I didn't choose carefully enough? I found success in the end and it works really well for me. By using the filters, I tend to avoid all the single guys that are only on here because their mate told them to join with the guarantee of a quick fuck. " 
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"1,000-1? I've told you a million times not to exaggerate!
I haven't noticed any reduction in women to be honest but then I haven't really done any searching since I rejoined.
What can we do to entice them back if numbers are reducing? "I know, let's all line up and wave our will lies at them  | |||
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"1,000-1? I've told you a million times not to exaggerate!
I haven't noticed any reduction in women to be honest but then I haven't really done any searching since I rejoined.
What can we do to entice them back if numbers are reducing?
I know, let's all line up and wave our will lies at them "Perhaps related to the standard "Fab straight/Real straight" threads we should all line up and have our hands on the willy to the right
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"We did a quick survey. The first hundred profiles within a fifty mile radius broke down as follows Single men 76 Mf Couples 14 Single women 6 Tv/ts 4 It's not a thousand to one but odds are definitely against the chaps " Good odds round these parts its more 300/10 & there are more TV/TS that want to meet couples than there are single women.. S | |||
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"We did a quick survey. The first hundred profiles within a fifty mile radius broke down as follows Single men 76 Mf Couples 14 Single women 6 Tv/ts 4 It's not a thousand to one but odds are definitely against the chaps Good odds round these parts its more 300/10 & there are more TV/TS that want to meet couples than there are single women.. S" It's probably true that you do get more open minded women in London ?? | |||
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"We did a quick survey. The first hundred profiles within a fifty mile radius broke down as follows Single men 76 Mf Couples 14 Single women 6 Tv/ts 4 It's not a thousand to one but odds are definitely against the chaps " But 12 of those 6 single women are bi and want to meet women or couples | |||
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"1,000-1? I've told you a million times not to exaggerate!
I haven't noticed any reduction in women to be honest but then I haven't really done any searching since I rejoined.
What can we do to entice them back if numbers are reducing? "You're looking at it from the wrong perspective. If males, outnumber females, then rather than entice new ladies to join, why not simply reduce the existing fab males? The ratio is not that big, when you eliminate, the distances, types, preferences, and utter twats. A herd of cows, grazing in a field. Two bulls, standing on a hill, watching them. The young bull says "let's run down there and fuck some of them" The old bull replies "let's walk down there & fuck them all" | |||
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"It is absolutely huge! A single lady friend of ours let us look at her account one day when she was round our house and frankly her inbox was full of absolute drivel, from the bizarre to the damn right rude. It's no wonder the ladies get to the point where they have had enough and move on. If it frustrates her she needs to use her filters better, but I know what you mean as I've seen a few ladies' inboxes (not a metaphor! ) and I concur with what you say!
We went through them with her. They were set right and she used the block function. Still got them daily, in the end she just got fed up wading through the shit to find a good meet.
I still think a lot of the ladies enjoy this "attention" whether its real "I fancy you" or "I need somewhere to put this". If women really want this place to change they need to grow some, block all guys & search for themselves. Of course then that leaves them open to be the rejected one, which for many is a step too far.
Some ladies do this but very few.
Much safer to search through piles of drose you know are interested to find the one or two nuggets that interest them.
If guys couldn't message & had to wait for "customers" you would get fewer wasters, better photos & written profiles & no more hundreds of shite messages.
S"I'm one of the ladies that does block men. It works really well. Not only can I look for local men but I can also strike up conversations with them and have the time to reply, which I couldn't do when my filters were open to single men. Now yes attention is nice whoever u r, but people who don't read my profile and send me ridiculous messages annoy rather than please. | |||
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"We did a quick survey. The first hundred profiles within a fifty mile radius broke down as follows Single men 76 Mf Couples 14 Single women 6 Tv/ts 4 It's not a thousand to one but odds are definitely against the chaps " Not so good for the guys around me: Single men 81 MF couples 14 TV/TS 2 MM Couples 1 Single women 2 One of those single women was myself and I have my filters closed to single guys and the other woman states no single guys in her profile. | |||
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"i must be the only woman who, when i didn't have filters on, used to go to their inbox and feel down about the shit in there then? got to the point where i stopped even caring if i had any messages anyway so i blocked everyone coz of that. men do need to up their game, as well as make decent profiles so we can have some idea if we're compatible." As I said, it used to make me angry as opposed to down. It became tedious and overwhelming. Switching on the filters made it all a lot quieter and easier to concentrate on finding the right people. | |||
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"i must be the only woman who, when i didn't have filters on, used to go to their inbox and feel down about the shit in there then? got to the point where i stopped even caring if i had any messages anyway so i blocked everyone coz of that. men do need to up their game, as well as make decent profiles so we can have some idea if we're compatible. As I said, it used to make me angry as opposed to down. It became tedious and overwhelming. Switching on the filters made it all a lot quieter and easier to concentrate on finding the right people. " i hardly get angry. i don't get why people think we like crappy attention that isn't really attention because they are not offering us much more than a request for sexual services. | |||
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"i must be the only woman who, when i didn't have filters on, used to go to their inbox and feel down about the shit in there then? got to the point where i stopped even caring if i had any messages anyway so i blocked everyone coz of that. men do need to up their game, as well as make decent profiles so we can have some idea if we're compatible. As I said, it used to make me angry as opposed to down. It became tedious and overwhelming. Switching on the filters made it all a lot quieter and easier to concentrate on finding the right people. i hardly get angry. i don't get why people think we like crappy attention that isn't really attention because they are not offering us much more than a request for sexual services." We think the fundamental problem is the scattergun approach men take. They send loads of very short messages to loads of women. They would be much better off sending longer messages to fewer women | |||
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"i hardly get angry. i don't get why people think we like crappy attention that isn't really attention because they are not offering us much more than a request for sexual services." That's the reason it made me angry, I'm a person and not a lump of meat you can poke with your penis. It pushed my feminist buttons big time. I think there was shock too. Do men seriously believe that's the way into a woman's knickers? | |||
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"i hardly get angry. i don't get why people think we like crappy attention that isn't really attention because they are not offering us much more than a request for sexual services. That's the reason it made me angry, I'm a person and not a lump of meat you can poke with your penis. It pushed my feminist buttons big time. I think there was shock too. Do men seriously believe that's the way into a woman's knickers?" As an example we just got a message that said just "let me no if you would like to meet as I am in the area". This is a guy who thinks we might just drop everything and meet him purely because he is near and fancies a shag. And no doubt the same message has gone to twenty other people. And he doesn't know the difference between no and know. | |||
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"i hardly get angry. i don't get why people think we like crappy attention that isn't really attention because they are not offering us much more than a request for sexual services. That's the reason it made me angry, I'm a person and not a lump of meat you can poke with your penis. It pushed my feminist buttons big time. I think there was shock too. Do men seriously believe that's the way into a woman's knickers?" yeah they do. there's always been a low opinion of women who control their own sexuality, except maybe in BDSM circles where they are worshiped, but even then there's not much sex going on there usually as it's more a mental thing and men being put in denial of sex. maybe these guys are masochists? they approach women knowing they aren't worthy of them so sabotage their attempts at getting a fuck intentionally? | |||
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"i must be the only woman who, when i didn't have filters on, used to go to their inbox and feel down about the shit in there then? got to the point where i stopped even caring if i had any messages anyway so i blocked everyone coz of that. men do need to up their game, as well as make decent profiles so we can have some idea if we're compatible. As I said, it used to make me angry as opposed to down. It became tedious and overwhelming. Switching on the filters made it all a lot quieter and easier to concentrate on finding the right people. i hardly get angry. i don't get why people think we like crappy attention that isn't really attention because they are not offering us much more than a request for sexual services. We think the fundamental problem is the scattergun approach men take. They send loads of very short messages to loads of women. They would be much better off sending longer messages to fewer women " offering more than their dick would be a good start also. | |||
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"1,000-1? I've told you a million times not to exaggerate!
I haven't noticed any reduction in women to be honest but then I haven't really done any searching since I rejoined.
What can we do to entice them back if numbers are reducing? "In a bits a lot higher than that  | |||
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"i hardly get angry. i don't get why people think we like crappy attention that isn't really attention because they are not offering us much more than a request for sexual services. That's the reason it made me angry, I'm a person and not a lump of meat you can poke with your penis. It pushed my feminist buttons big time. I think there was shock too. Do men seriously believe that's the way into a woman's knickers? yeah they do. there's always been a low opinion of women who control their own sexuality, except maybe in BDSM circles where they are worshiped, but even then there's not much sex going on there usually as it's more a mental thing and men being put in denial of sex. maybe these guys are masochists? they approach women knowing they aren't worthy of them so sabotage their attempts at getting a fuck intentionally? "I think part of it is men not hanging around with women very much and not having any idea how to communicate with them. Also they probably don't know any sexually liberated women in real life and assume they must just be like men i. E. A genitals pic will get them going. | |||
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"i hardly get angry. i don't get why people think we like crappy attention that isn't really attention because they are not offering us much more than a request for sexual services. That's the reason it made me angry, I'm a person and not a lump of meat you can poke with your penis. It pushed my feminist buttons big time. I think there was shock too. Do men seriously believe that's the way into a woman's knickers? yeah they do. there's always been a low opinion of women who control their own sexuality, except maybe in BDSM circles where they are worshiped, but even then there's not much sex going on there usually as it's more a mental thing and men being put in denial of sex. maybe these guys are masochists? they approach women knowing they aren't worthy of them so sabotage their attempts at getting a fuck intentionally?
I think part of it is men not hanging around with women very much and not having any idea how to communicate with them. Also they probably don't know any sexually liberated women in real life and assume they must just be like men i. E. A genitals pic will get them going. "even when they do know sexually liberated women they tend to think they're 'right goers'...but they forget they kind of know these women on some kind of intimate basis as well. she's basically just a slag despite that. | |||
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"It is absolutely huge! A single lady friend of ours let us look at her account one day when she was round our house and frankly her inbox was full of absolute drivel, from the bizarre to the damn right rude. It's no wonder the ladies get to the point where they have had enough and move on. If it frustrates her she needs to use her filters better, but I know what you mean as I've seen a few ladies' inboxes (not a metaphor! ) and I concur with what you say!
We went through them with her. They were set right and she used the block function. Still got them daily, in the end she just got fed up wading through the shit to find a good meet.
I still think a lot of the ladies enjoy this "attention" whether its real "I fancy you" or "I need somewhere to put this". If women really want this place to change they need to grow some, block all guys & search for themselves. Of course then that leaves them open to be the rejected one, which for many is a step too far.
Some ladies do this but very few.
Much safer to search through piles of drose you know are interested to find the one or two nuggets that interest them.
If guys couldn't message & had to wait for "customers" you would get fewer wasters, better photos & written profiles & no more hundreds of shite messages.
S"all this may be true in the case of some woman and couples but as I guy who rarely messages anyone unless its after a lot of fun forum flirting . I must just say I get around 3 or 4 enquires a week from women and about 2 or 3 a week from couples enquiring. so I think lots of women and couples on here no full well its best to be proactive if you don't want your time wasted . as for me I'm proactive but in a different way I use the forums to be noticed and I must say this approach works as intended in my case . | |||
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"It is absolutely huge! A single lady friend of ours let us look at her account one day when she was round our house and frankly her inbox was full of absolute drivel, from the bizarre to the damn right rude. It's no wonder the ladies get to the point where they have had enough and move on." She could have blocked men and sent the first message herself  | |||
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"i must be the only woman who, when i didn't have filters on, used to go to their inbox and feel down about the shit in there then? got to the point where i stopped even caring if i had any messages anyway so i blocked everyone coz of that. men do need to up their game, as well as make decent profiles so we can have some idea if we're compatible. As I said, it used to make me angry as opposed to down. It became tedious and overwhelming. Switching on the filters made it all a lot quieter and easier to concentrate on finding the right people. i hardly get angry. i don't get why people think we like crappy attention that isn't really attention because they are not offering us much more than a request for sexual services. We think the fundamental problem is the scattergun approach men take. They send loads of very short messages to loads of women. They would be much better off sending longer messages to fewer women " Why?? I tend to 'blitz' a copy and pasted message to people and find it works | |||
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"i must be the only woman who, when i didn't have filters on, used to go to their inbox and feel down about the shit in there then? got to the point where i stopped even caring if i had any messages anyway so i blocked everyone coz of that. men do need to up their game, as well as make decent profiles so we can have some idea if we're compatible. As I said, it used to make me angry as opposed to down. It became tedious and overwhelming. Switching on the filters made it all a lot quieter and easier to concentrate on finding the right people. i hardly get angry. i don't get why people think we like crappy attention that isn't really attention because they are not offering us much more than a request for sexual services." My comment was more to do with the psychology of it really. No one likes rejection and in here as in life probably women take it worse, if there was a guaranteed way to avoid it everyone male/female/couples/TV-TS everyone would. One way to avoid it is not to message, but then no one would meet 
Atm the vast majority of first messages are sent by men and it isn't just because of the numbers. Now whether they are shit or not is irrelevant to the argument as what it does is take away that fear of rejection for the ladies. You could message back all of your inbox with faf and get a nigh on 100% positive response because they have already taken the first step and said they like you (well amongst other things )
As said the fact say 90% of the messages are shit is irrelevant as what you have is 10% that are not with little fear for you of being rejected when you respond.
This is general "You" not personal you.x
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"i must be the only woman who, when i didn't have filters on, used to go to their inbox and feel down about the shit in there then? got to the point where i stopped even caring if i had any messages anyway so i blocked everyone coz of that. men do need to up their game, as well as make decent profiles so we can have some idea if we're compatible. As I said, it used to make me angry as opposed to down. It became tedious and overwhelming. Switching on the filters made it all a lot quieter and easier to concentrate on finding the right people. i hardly get angry. i don't get why people think we like crappy attention that isn't really attention because they are not offering us much more than a request for sexual services. We think the fundamental problem is the scattergun approach men take. They send loads of very short messages to loads of women. They would be much better off sending longer messages to fewer women Why?? I tend to 'blitz' a copy and pasted message to people and find it works " Maybe it does. But for us and lots of other people an obvious copy and paste goes straight to delete | |||
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"i must be the only woman who, when i didn't have filters on, used to go to their inbox and feel down about the shit in there then? got to the point where i stopped even caring if i had any messages anyway so i blocked everyone coz of that. men do need to up their game, as well as make decent profiles so we can have some idea if we're compatible. As I said, it used to make me angry as opposed to down. It became tedious and overwhelming. Switching on the filters made it all a lot quieter and easier to concentrate on finding the right people. i hardly get angry. i don't get why people think we like crappy attention that isn't really attention because they are not offering us much more than a request for sexual services. My comment was more to do with the psychology of it really. No one likes rejection and in here as in life probably women take it worse, if there was a guaranteed way to avoid it everyone male/female/couples/TV-TS everyone would. One way to avoid it is not to message, but then no one would meet
Atm the vast majority of first messages are sent by men and it isn't just because of the numbers. Now whether they are shit or not is irrelevant to the argument as what it does is take away that fear of rejection for the ladies. You could message back all of your inbox with faf and get a nigh on 100% positive response because they have already taken the first step and said they like you (well amongst other things )
As said the fact say 90% of the messages are shit is irrelevant as what you have is 10% that are not with little fear for you of being rejected when you respond.
This is general "You" not personal you.x
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"on other sites i will messages first, but that's because they are basically forced to make a profile by the sites i was using. i'm not scared of rejection, it's only someone i don't know who has the potential to become someone i know, nothing to be scared of really. but you're right i've not been rejected. | |||
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"i must be the only woman who, when i didn't have filters on, used to go to their inbox and feel down about the shit in there then? got to the point where i stopped even caring if i had any messages anyway so i blocked everyone coz of that. men do need to up their game, as well as make decent profiles so we can have some idea if we're compatible. As I said, it used to make me angry as opposed to down. It became tedious and overwhelming. Switching on the filters made it all a lot quieter and easier to concentrate on finding the right people. i hardly get angry. i don't get why people think we like crappy attention that isn't really attention because they are not offering us much more than a request for sexual services. We think the fundamental problem is the scattergun approach men take. They send loads of very short messages to loads of women. They would be much better off sending longer messages to fewer women Why?? I tend to 'blitz' a copy and pasted message to people and find it works Maybe it does. But for us and lots of other people an obvious copy and paste goes straight to delete " Do you ever send the a first message?? | |||
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"It is absolutely huge! A single lady friend of ours let us look at her account one day when she was round our house and frankly her inbox was full of absolute drivel, from the bizarre to the damn right rude. It's no wonder the ladies get to the point where they have had enough and move on. If it frustrates her she needs to use her filters better, but I know what you mean as I've seen a few ladies' inboxes (not a metaphor! ) and I concur with what you say!
We went through them with her. They were set right and she used the block function. Still got them daily, in the end she just got fed up wading through the shit to find a good meet.
I still think a lot of the ladies enjoy this "attention" whether its real "I fancy you" or "I need somewhere to put this". If women really want this place to change they need to grow some, block all guys & search for themselves. Of course then that leaves them open to be the rejected one, which for many is a step too far.
Some ladies do this but very few.
Much safer to search through piles of drose you know are interested to find the one or two nuggets that interest them.
If guys couldn't message & had to wait for "customers" you would get fewer wasters, better photos & written profiles & no more hundreds of shite messages.
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all this may be true in the case of some woman and couples but as I guy who rarely messages anyone unless its after a lot of fun forum flirting .
I must just say I get around 3 or 4 enquires a week from women and about 2 or 3 a week from couples enquiring.
so I think lots of women and couples on here no full well its best to be proactive if you don't want your time wasted .
as for me I'm proactive but in a different way I use the forums to be noticed and I must say this approach works as intended in my case . "Works for us too, we very rarely first message, can't even remember when we last did. I'd also say for any new females they should start out with guys blocked, get their profiles well sorted & known by this method & then try opening them on occasion. Ours has been open since the weekend & not one message, I guess because our profile is now known. By the way guys, they are open so guys can leave veris from the weekend social. Send a message it'll go straight in the delete pile.
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"Fundamentally its about supply and demand. As long as the penises on here hugely out the number the vaginas an average couple or woman can write any old Shit to a single man and will probably get a response. A single guy writing shit has no chance. " We do find it rather ironic that three of the most wanted ripped/fit/whatever guys on here would happily join us for mfm or mmf fun, yet we look at what we consider their female equivalents & know full well they wouldn't touch us with a bargepole. As you say, a numbers game.. S | |||
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"Fundamentally its about supply and demand. As long as the penises on here hugely out the number the vaginas an average couple or woman can write any old Shit to a single man and will probably get a response. A single guy writing shit has no chance. We do find it rather ironic that three of the most wanted ripped/fit/whatever guys on here would happily join us for mfm or mmf fun, yet we look at what we consider their female equivalents & know full well they wouldn't touch us with a bargepole. As you say, a numbers game.. S" Exactly. We are not exactly youngsters but Katie can get the hottest young guys on here to fuck her. Hence her standards as far as men are concerned are very high. As she says why would she want an average fifty year old for casual sex when she can get an exceptional thirty year old. | |||
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"Fundamentally its about supply and demand. As long as the penises on here hugely out the number the vaginas an average couple or woman can write any old Shit to a single man and will probably get a response. A single guy writing shit has no chance. We do find it rather ironic that three of the most wanted ripped/fit/whatever guys on here would happily join us for mfm or mmf fun, yet we look at what we consider their female equivalents & know full well they wouldn't touch us with a bargepole. As you say, a numbers game.. S Exactly. We are not exactly youngsters but Katie can get the hottest young guys on here to fuck her. Hence her standards as far as men are concerned are very high. As she says why would she want an average fifty year old for casual sex when she can get an exceptional thirty year old. " Agreed, but luckily we are not peas in a pod, we are snowflakes, no two are ever exactly the same ;-) S | |||
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"1,000-1? I've told you a million times not to exaggerate!
I haven't noticed any reduction in women to be honest but then I haven't really done any searching since I rejoined.
What can we do to entice them back if numbers are reducing?
I know, let's all line up and wave our will lies at them "I read this and immediately heard "Swords of a Thousand Men" in my head. | |||
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