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"What do you think???" He doesn't know, hence the question.... | |||
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"adults ....make your own decisions...." Well, an adult is asking adults. Anything wrong with that? | |||
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"Each to himself blah blah, calculated risks blah blah blah. That is not the spin on my post. If a guy turned up at such a meet but then wore a condom, would anyone be offended? Would it be considered rude behaviour?" BBGBs are not for me, but if I organised such event and it was specifically advertised as such, then anyone breaking out a condom would be shown the door. Plenty of GBs and GG nights advertised that require condoms, so if safe sex is your thing, go for them instead. | |||
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"I guess this is the reverse of the no sex without a condom. If consent is given based on the use of condoms then to not wear one is legally considered to be rape. So it seems likely that if consent to have sex is conditional on you fucking bareback then using a condom could be considered rape. Weird but possibly true. "Hmmm; quite insightful. I'll remember that when called to the Bar. | |||
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"Each to himself blah blah, calculated risks blah blah blah. That is not the spin on my post. If a guy turned up at such a meet but then wore a condom, would anyone be offended? Would it be considered rude behaviour?" I would say so as if the woman likes bare and advertised for bare turning up and wanting to use a condom just shows lack of respect for her wishes From your point of view surely you would be better going to a safe sex gang bang if that's what you prefer | |||
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"If it was a BB gangbang then you'd not be appreciated sliding a condom on. x" Agreed. We have enjoyed a few of them. A few guys have been very keen but then start hesitating at the last minute. They are immediately un-invited. Our game. Our rules. | |||
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"If it was a BB gangbang then you'd not be appreciated sliding a condom on. x Agreed. We have enjoyed a few of them. A few guys have been very keen but then start hesitating at the last minute. They are immediately un-invited. Our game. Our rules. "  | |||
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"This is my ideal meet  " Me too! I love your pics... you are so sexy and gorgeous xx | |||
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"Jesus wept  "Jesus can weep all he wants, all sex in his time was bareback ! xoxo | |||
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"Jesus wept
Jesus can weep all he wants, all sex in his time was bareback !
xoxo" | |||
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"Jesus wept" Silly comment really  | |||
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"Jesus wept
Jesus can weep all he wants, all sex in his time was bareback !
xoxo"Great reply x | |||
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"Jesus wept
Jesus can weep all he wants, all sex in his time was bareback !
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"I guess this is the reverse of the no sex without a condom. If consent is given based on the use of condoms then to not wear one is legally considered to be rape. So it seems likely that if consent to have sex is conditional on you fucking bareback then using a condom could be considered rape. Weird but possibly true. "Just to inform you, removing a condom does not amount to rape. Therefore, putting one also does not amount to rape. If consent, directly or implied, is given to the act then it is irrelevant if the quality of the act is not desired. By quality I mean that it wasn't exactly as she expected, not whether or not he came in 30 seconds. | |||
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"I guess this is the reverse of the no sex without a condom. If consent is given based on the use of condoms then to not wear one is legally considered to be rape. So it seems likely that if consent to have sex is conditional on you fucking bareback then using a condom could be considered rape. Weird but possibly true.
Just to inform you, removing a condom does not amount to rape. Therefore, putting one also does not amount to rape.
If consent, directly or implied, is given to the act then it is irrelevant if the quality of the act is not desired.
By quality I mean that it wasn't exactly as she expected, not whether or not he came in 30 seconds. "Thank you for putting me right there. May I respectfully suggest you also correct the Crown Prosecution Service who have specific guidance on "conditional consent".
They are obviously having difficulty with this so your guidance will be invaluable. See http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/rape_and_sexual_offences/consent/
As for the future I hope you are clear on the legal standard "Ignorance of the Law is no excuse".  | |||
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"I guess this is the reverse of the no sex without a condom. If consent is given based on the use of condoms then to not wear one is legally considered to be rape. So it seems likely that if consent to have sex is conditional on you fucking bareback then using a condom could be considered rape. Weird but possibly true.
Just to inform you, removing a condom does not amount to rape. Therefore, putting one also does not amount to rape.
If consent, directly or implied, is given to the act then it is irrelevant if the quality of the act is not desired.
By quality I mean that it wasn't exactly as she expected, not whether or not he came in 30 seconds. "Did you make that up yourself or read it off the back of a corn flake packet. | |||
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"I guess this is the reverse of the no sex without a condom. If consent is given based on the use of condoms then to not wear one is legally considered to be rape. So it seems likely that if consent to have sex is conditional on you fucking bareback then using a condom could be considered rape. Weird but possibly true.
Just to inform you, removing a condom does not amount to rape. Therefore, putting one also does not amount to rape.
If consent, directly or implied, is given to the act then it is irrelevant if the quality of the act is not desired.
By quality I mean that it wasn't exactly as she expected, not whether or not he came in 30 seconds.
Did you make that up yourself or read it off the back of a corn flake packet. "I think he got it from a Donald Trump press briefing? | |||
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"It'd be very rude lol try to imagine you meet up with a lady, you tell her your not into your bum being touched yet mid meet she finds her biggest dildo lubes it up and rams it up your arse. Your first thought would be " gosh that was rude" right? Pml" Probably not his first thought  | |||
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"Each to himself blah blah, calculated risks blah blah blah. That is not the spin on my post. If a guy turned up at such a meet but then wore a condom, would anyone be offended? Would it be considered rude behaviour?" I would imagine a similar reaction to someone wanting to go bareback at a safe sex meet. Basically you are not conforming to the agreed rules of the meeting. | |||
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"I guess this is the reverse of the no sex without a condom. If consent is given based on the use of condoms then to not wear one is legally considered to be rape. So it seems likely that if consent to have sex is conditional on you fucking bareback then using a condom could be considered rape. Weird but possibly true.
Just to inform you, removing a condom does not amount to rape. Therefore, putting one also does not amount to rape.
If consent, directly or implied, is given to the act then it is irrelevant if the quality of the act is not desired.
By quality I mean that it wasn't exactly as she expected, not whether or not he came in 30 seconds. "But if they meet on fab, is that not covered by distance selling legislation? Returns and refunds etc?  | |||
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"I will have to bow down to your superior knowledge and apologise humbly. I was unaware of the decision in Assange. This is not an area of law I have studied recently, as we would never go against anyone's wishes, regardless of the legal position. So not something we would need to be up to date on. Guess I will have to upgrade my breakfast to shreddies or weetabix." Well said sir!  | |||
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"Just to inform you, removing a condom does not amount to rape. Therefore, putting one also does not amount to rape. If consent, directly or implied, is given to the act then it is irrelevant if the quality of the act is not desired. By quality I mean that it wasn't exactly as she expected, not whether or not he came in 30 seconds. " Don't usually post here, normally lurk, however this is so grossly inaccurate I think someone needs to challenge it. 'Implied' consent?? No such thing. There is consent or no consent. Failing to get consent means you have none. Furthermore it is rape to remove a condom without that consent. As it would be to move from vaginal to anal sex without consent. Both have been proven in court. | |||
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"Just to inform you, removing a condom does not amount to rape. Therefore, putting one also does not amount to rape. If consent, directly or implied, is given to the act then it is irrelevant if the quality of the act is not desired. By quality I mean that it wasn't exactly as she expected, not whether or not he came in 30 seconds. Don't usually post here, normally lurk, however this is so grossly inaccurate I think someone needs to challenge it. 'Implied' consent?? No such thing. There is consent or no consent. Failing to get consent means you have none. Furthermore it is rape to remove a condom without that consent. As it would be to move from vaginal to anal sex without consent. Both have been proven in court. " I agree but frankly, bugger the law. If anyone did anything without my implicit consent I would feel violated. Thankfully the law has dragged itself out of the Victorian era when women were chattels and a man could behave any way he wanted without consequences. | |||
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"If it was openly a bareback gang bang, then I would say yes, you are being very rude. You are just there to service Your Own needs and not for the group who have taken time and effort to organise and get together. There is something for everyone, it wouldn't take much to find a safe gang bang if you wanted to do that." Speaking of servicing your own needs, guys, let's stop kidding. Who goes to a meet thinking , "I am going to make these girls so happy they will be in wonderland tonight"? Who does that? In my world, you go to a meet, comport yourself, get something going with one or two people and hopefully YOU will have fun. | |||
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"If it was openly a bareback gang bang, then I would say yes, you are being very rude. You are just there to service Your Own needs and not for the group who have taken time and effort to organise and get together. There is something for everyone, it wouldn't take much to find a safe gang bang if you wanted to do that. Speaking of servicing your own needs, guys, let's stop kidding. Who goes to a meet thinking , "I am going to make these girls so happy they will be in wonderland tonight"? Who does that? In my world, you go to a meet, comport yourself, get something going with one or two people and hopefully YOU will have fun. " Remind me not to invite you to any of my meets. | |||
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"It's called a 'bareback gangbang' for a reason. I would not be impressed if a guy pulled out a condom. " That seems fair. I'm just about to start working in Kings heath if you're interested . . | |||
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"Just to inform you, removing a condom does not amount to rape. Therefore, putting one also does not amount to rape. If consent, directly or implied, is given to the act then it is irrelevant if the quality of the act is not desired. By quality I mean that it wasn't exactly as she expected, not whether or not he came in 30 seconds. Don't usually post here, normally lurk, however this is so grossly inaccurate I think someone needs to challenge it. 'Implied' consent?? No such thing. There is consent or no consent. Failing to get consent means you have none. Furthermore it is rape to remove a condom without that consent. As it would be to move from vaginal to anal sex without consent. Both have been proven in court. " Sorry but I will have to correct this as this is something I know 100% on. There is such thing as implied consent and it acts through all aspects of Law, not such the sexual offences act. When was the last time you were kissing someone, started stripping each other's clothes off, then stopped as asked "can we have sex now?" To which she said "yes I consent to having sex". Probably never (outside of swinging). In which case by your reckoning you have committed rape several times. You are right that consent needs to be attained but it can be implied rather than expressed. | |||
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"If it was openly a bareback gang bang, then I would say yes, you are being very rude. You are just there to service Your Own needs and not for the group who have taken time and effort to organise and get together. There is something for everyone, it wouldn't take much to find a safe gang bang if you wanted to do that. Speaking of servicing your own needs, guys, let's stop kidding. Who goes to a meet thinking , "I am going to make these girls so happy they will be in wonderland tonight"? Who does that? In my world, you go to a meet, comport yourself, get something going with one or two people and hopefully YOU will have fun. Remind me not to invite you to any of my meets." Feel free. Of course you are inviting me because you want me to have fun. I forgot that! You'd rather be lied to. | |||
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"Sorry but I will have to correct this as this is something I know 100% on. There is such thing as implied consent and it acts through all aspects of Law, not such the sexual offences act. When was the last time you were kissing someone, started stripping each other's clothes off, then stopped as asked "can we have sex now?" To which she said "yes I consent to having sex". Probably never (outside of swinging). In which case by your reckoning you have committed rape several times. You are right that consent needs to be attained but it can be implied rather than expressed." You know 100% yet didn't realise it was rape if the sex act itself was not consented to? Interesting. If you can locate the section in the sexual offences act that says 'implied' let me know. Implied consent does refer to some law, such as..a person has implied consent to enter Tesco. This can be withdrawn. Sadly there is no such thing in the sexual offences act. One can have reasonable belief they have consent and this boils down to capacity to consent etc. | |||
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Elsewhere in the Forum you will find women tell about lying naked in club rooms, being fucked by 4 men, who take great exception to the 5th joining in without permission.
I suspect however most sex is non verbal and consent is assumed because she did not say "NO!!!! Get off me you PERVERT!!!". | |||
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"And how can you expect to believe that you have consent if they haven't expressly given consent. " You guys are a couple, have you ever kissed or cuddled your partner without asking for verbal consent first? Ever had sex in the middle of the night without a single word being said by either of you? Ever been in bed together and had your partner touch your genitals without asking first? | |||
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"..... I think he got it from a Donald Trump press briefing? "Thanks, you made my day. | |||
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"..... I think he got it from a Donald Trump press briefing?
Thanks, you made my day."You are welcome! | |||
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"How can I say "really!?" in a Yorkshire accent?" I believe it's pronounced; "rare-leh" | |||
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