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"Wondered what people's experiences are? Do single folk find they are treated well by couples or get what they are looking for? What are couple's expectations from a single playmate? What sort of things lead to disappointment? Referring to both club and private meets. Mrs" Some couples assume that they can treat a guy like an unpaid prostitute on here. If I meet a couple I want mutual respect, don't ask me to pay for the hotel room etc. | |||
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"Wondered what people's experiences are? Do single folk find they are treated well by couples or get what they are looking for? What are couple's expectations from a single playmate? What sort of things lead to disappointment? Referring to both club and private meets. Mrs Some couples assume that they can treat a guy like an unpaid prostitute on here. If I meet a couple I want mutual respect, don't ask me to pay for the hotel room etc. " That's interesting. We tend to find that a lot of single men aren't very proactive with regards to accommodation, and tend to look to the couple to make appropriate arrangements, which we feel isn't fair. I think if a man wants to be treated equally, and not as an unpaid prostetute (which we do, though I'm aware other couple don't), the man should take equal responsibility for arrangements. We've only gone down the hotel route once, but we decided to treat the event as a night out in London. We paid because it was our room for the night. It was an exception though. We would find it very awkward booking a hotel room just for sex, and negotiating splitting the cost, so we avoid hotels for that reason. | |||
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"Wondered what people's experiences are? Do single folk find they are treated well by couples or get what they are looking for? What are couple's expectations from a single playmate? What sort of things lead to disappointment? Referring to both club and private meets. Mrs Some couples assume that they can treat a guy like an unpaid prostitute on here. If I meet a couple I want mutual respect, don't ask me to pay for the hotel room etc. That's interesting. We tend to find that a lot of single men aren't very proactive with regards to accommodation, and tend to look to the couple to make appropriate arrangements, which we feel isn't fair. I think if a man wants to be treated equally, and not as an unpaid prostetute (which we do, though I'm aware other couple don't), the man should take equal responsibility for arrangements. We've only gone down the hotel route once, but we decided to treat the event as a night out in London. We paid because it was our room for the night. It was an exception though. We would find it very awkward booking a hotel room just for sex, and negotiating splitting the cost, so we avoid hotels for that reason." I'm talking about expecting you to pay fully for the hotel, or messaging at the last minute thinking you can just turn up without any notice. People will do it though. | |||
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"Generally as good as with singles. I think that's because I'm quite good at finding out if we'd be compatible or not fairly early on. I'm not interested in being a sort of tittilation piece brought in as a present to one half; unless we are all playing I have no interest in it. I've only had one bad play meet since I started swinging and that was with a couple where the woman turned out to be more of a pillow princess than the rampant bisexual she'd been portrayed as being. That fucked me off and being the hotheaded 22yr old I was then, I quickly got dressed and left. I rarely get disappointed with meets. I would like to find more couples where the fem wants to watch the man but it's not that common sadly - female play seems to be all the rage." I would actually love to watch Marc with another woman (more than joining in myself) by its so hard to find that. Most women, understandably, just seek single men for that type of play it seems. | |||
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"I rarely get disappointed with meets. I would like to find more couples where the fem wants to watch the man but it's not that common sadly - female play seems to be all the rage." I don't think it's actually that uncommon, but because it's harder to achieve not many couples advertise this desire. I for one love either watching my husband or hearing about it. But we would not pursue this fantasy via Fab because we feel it would be too difficult to find a single lady who is willing for me to watch her with him. | |||
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"I rarely get disappointed with meets. I would like to find more couples where the fem wants to watch the man but it's not that common sadly - female play seems to be all the rage. I don't think it's actually that uncommon, but because it's harder to achieve not many couples advertise this desire. I for one love either watching my husband or hearing about it. But we would not pursue this fantasy via Fab because we feel it would be too difficult to find a single lady who is willing for me to watch her with him. " Why do you feel it's difficult to find? I know myself and a few other fem friends are interested in this kind of play but the majority of profiles seem geared towards satisfying the fem of the couple - be that through mmfs or ff play. | |||
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"We have had a grand total two different ladies join us for a Mff 3some. One of those we enjoyed very much as the lady invovled informed us she did too, but will remain a one off I think as at the time I think she just wanted to dabble a little. The other we are still good friends with now and we all had a great time on more than one occasion. What we look for is to include someone equally in our play together. Chat, laugh and giggle together. Then later share each other physically in a way that everyone gets off on, whatever that maybe. We don't have anything beyond the 'civilised' boundaries when we are playing with ladies. We'll happily discuss any fantasies they have too. We want every to have as much fun and feel as welcome as anyone else involved at that moment in time, kinda of become a 3some rather than a couple playing with a single. Convincing others of that.... not so easy lol." Totally agree. For three people to play as equals is the best way. But for that to work everybody has to get on well. Also agree that it's best not to have too many boundaries. We don't want to give a man joining us a list of dos and don't - we don't want him to feel like he's serving our needs. | |||
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"I rarely get disappointed with meets. I would like to find more couples where the fem wants to watch the man but it's not that common sadly - female play seems to be all the rage. I don't think it's actually that uncommon, but because it's harder to achieve not many couples advertise this desire. I for one love either watching my husband or hearing about it. But we would not pursue this fantasy via Fab because we feel it would be too difficult to find a single lady who is willing for me to watch her with him. Why do you feel it's difficult to find? I know myself and a few other fem friends are interested in this kind of play but the majority of profiles seem geared towards satisfying the fem of the couple - be that through mmfs or ff play." I guess because it is well known that single ladies are in the minority and most sought after, therefore have a lot of choice. Also the profiles I see of single ladies looking for an MF couple, the ladies impression I get is that they will want to play with me too. And I don't think I'm sufficiently bi to please a lady. Prepared to be wrong but I don't think I could get away with requesting that she only plays with my husband and I watch. It's easier at clubs and parties, where we can get to know people in person. There is a lady who we both play with, whom we met through a male friend. I enjoy watching her with my husband. But that just evolved that way. | |||
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"I guess because it is well known that single ladies are in the minority and most sought after, therefore have a lot of choice. Also the profiles I see of single ladies looking for an MF couple, the ladies impression I get is that they will want to play with me too. And I don't think I'm sufficiently bi to please a lady. Prepared to be wrong but I don't think I could get away with requesting that she only plays with my husband and I watch. It's easier at clubs and parties, where we can get to know people in person. There is a lady who we both play with, whom we met through a male friend. I enjoy watching her with my husband. But that just evolved that way. " Okies, I understand it better now. I'm as bi as bi can be but I've met a few couples where it really was just a meet in which the fem watched me with her partner. I do attend clubs but the assumption when I'm bi does tend to be that it will be a full threesome. I guess I should clarify in my profile that it's something I am interested in. | |||
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"Wondered what people's experiences are? Do single folk find they are treated well by couples or get what they are looking for? What are couple's expectations from a single playmate? What sort of things lead to disappointment? Referring to both club and private meets. Mrs" ------------------------------------------------------------------ My 3some experiences are generally very good, as a single man involved in MMF and MFF scenarios. I'd say that its all down to good qualification of what all three are wanting and recognising and agreeing that each of the three have their own needs. And that each of us is independent and confident in wanting and having the relationship. The 3some experiences that haven't gone particularly well for me are generally down to couple immaturity (eg newbies, insecure couples, and couples where there is a dominant partner with an insecure/unwilling partner, and unhappy couples). MMF and FFM is very complex, but through qualifying everyones' hopes ... you can generally get the right threesome relationships, and really make some great and long lasting friendships. I can't comment on club meets because they're a different paradigm .... generally just for one night sex, which though exciting sexually are generally emotionally disappointing. xxx, Mike | |||
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"I've been really lucky with the couples I've met. We've always chatted for a while before meeting to make sure we all get on, and I like to make sure the women are fully bisexual and not just trying to be, to appease their partner. " Yes! This! | |||
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"I rarely get disappointed with meets. I would like to find more couples where the fem wants to watch the man but it's not that common sadly - female play seems to be all the rage. I don't think it's actually that uncommon, but because it's harder to achieve not many couples advertise this desire. I for one love either watching my husband or hearing about it. But we would not pursue this fantasy via Fab because we feel it would be too difficult to find a single lady who is willing for me to watch her with him. Why do you feel it's difficult to find? I know myself and a few other fem friends are interested in this kind of play but the majority of profiles seem geared towards satisfying the fem of the couple - be that through mmfs or ff play. I guess because it is well known that single ladies are in the minority and most sought after, therefore have a lot of choice. Also the profiles I see of single ladies looking for an MF couple, the ladies impression I get is that they will want to play with me too. And I don't think I'm sufficiently bi to please a lady. Prepared to be wrong but I don't think I could get away with requesting that she only plays with my husband and I watch. It's easier at clubs and parties, where we can get to know people in person. There is a lady who we both play with, whom we met through a male friend. I enjoy watching her with my husband. But that just evolved that way. " I wouldn't be comfortable with any meet where someone was just watching rather than fully participating, be that the male or the female. But I'm not an exhibitionist and others are, it may be more difficult to find but I'm sure it's not impossible | |||
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"I wouldn't be comfortable with any meet where someone was just watching rather than fully participating, be that the male or the female. But I'm not an exhibitionist and others are, it may be more difficult to find but I'm sure it's not impossible " I wouldn't say I'm an exhibitionist - it's just a dynamic I am interested in that happens to involve being watched by another person. I could quite happily meet the male half of the couple without the fem's presence but being aware that it will be discussed later. It's an odd sexually selfish thing for me that I can't quite analyse well enough. | |||
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"I wouldn't be comfortable with any meet where someone was just watching rather than fully participating, be that the male or the female. But I'm not an exhibitionist and others are, it may be more difficult to find but I'm sure it's not impossible I wouldn't say I'm an exhibitionist - it's just a dynamic I am interested in that happens to involve being watched by another person. I could quite happily meet the male half of the couple without the fem's presence but being aware that it will be discussed later. It's an odd sexually selfish thing for me that I can't quite analyse well enough." Maybe exhibitionist is the wrong word. I could also happily meet the male half of a couple alone even if they would discuss it later, but it's the idea of there being another person there watching and not participating that would be the big turn off for me. | |||
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"I wouldn't be comfortable with any meet where someone was just watching rather than fully participating, be that the male or the female. But I'm not an exhibitionist and others are, it may be more difficult to find but I'm sure it's not impossible I wouldn't say I'm an exhibitionist - it's just a dynamic I am interested in that happens to involve being watched by another person. I could quite happily meet the male half of the couple without the fem's presence but being aware that it will be discussed later. It's an odd sexually selfish thing for me that I can't quite analyse well enough. Maybe exhibitionist is the wrong word. I could also happily meet the male half of a couple alone even if they would discuss it later, but it's the idea of there being another person there watching and not participating that would be the big turn off for me. " Really I like to wink and flex my muscles to the guy watching like Patrick Bateman in American psycho | |||
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"I wouldn't be comfortable with any meet where someone was just watching rather than fully participating, be that the male or the female. But I'm not an exhibitionist and others are, it may be more difficult to find but I'm sure it's not impossible I wouldn't say I'm an exhibitionist - it's just a dynamic I am interested in that happens to involve being watched by another person. I could quite happily meet the male half of the couple without the fem's presence but being aware that it will be discussed later. It's an odd sexually selfish thing for me that I can't quite analyse well enough. Maybe exhibitionist is the wrong word. I could also happily meet the male half of a couple alone even if they would discuss it later, but it's the idea of there being another person there watching and not participating that would be the big turn off for me. Really I like to wink and flex my muscles to the guy watching like Patrick Bateman in American psycho " | |||
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"I wouldn't be comfortable with any meet where someone was just watching rather than fully participating, be that the male or the female. But I'm not an exhibitionist and others are, it may be more difficult to find but I'm sure it's not impossible I wouldn't say I'm an exhibitionist - it's just a dynamic I am interested in that happens to involve being watched by another person. I could quite happily meet the male half of the couple without the fem's presence but being aware that it will be discussed later. It's an odd sexually selfish thing for me that I can't quite analyse well enough. Maybe exhibitionist is the wrong word. I could also happily meet the male half of a couple alone even if they would discuss it later, but it's the idea of there being another person there watching and not participating that would be the big turn off for me. Really I like to wink and flex my muscles to the guy watching like Patrick Bateman in American psycho " You're not actually that bad, are you Tunnel? And Ruby, yes it was. I really have no interest in exhibition. I guess it's a sort of selfish ego kink for me? Meh. I don't know. | |||
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"I wouldn't be comfortable with any meet where someone was just watching rather than fully participating, be that the male or the female. But I'm not an exhibitionist and others are, it may be more difficult to find but I'm sure it's not impossible I wouldn't say I'm an exhibitionist - it's just a dynamic I am interested in that happens to involve being watched by another person. I could quite happily meet the male half of the couple without the fem's presence but being aware that it will be discussed later. It's an odd sexually selfish thing for me that I can't quite analyse well enough. Maybe exhibitionist is the wrong word. I could also happily meet the male half of a couple alone even if they would discuss it later, but it's the idea of there being another person there watching and not participating that would be the big turn off for me. Really I like to wink and flex my muscles to the guy watching like Patrick Bateman in American psycho You're not actually that bad, are you Tunnel? And Ruby, yes it was. I really have no interest in exhibition. I guess it's a sort of selfish ego kink for me? Meh. I don't know." No just joking | |||
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"I wouldn't be comfortable with any meet where someone was just watching rather than fully participating, be that the male or the female. But I'm not an exhibitionist and others are, it may be more difficult to find but I'm sure it's not impossible I wouldn't say I'm an exhibitionist - it's just a dynamic I am interested in that happens to involve being watched by another person. I could quite happily meet the male half of the couple without the fem's presence but being aware that it will be discussed later. It's an odd sexually selfish thing for me that I can't quite analyse well enough. Maybe exhibitionist is the wrong word. I could also happily meet the male half of a couple alone even if they would discuss it later, but it's the idea of there being another person there watching and not participating that would be the big turn off for me. Really I like to wink and flex my muscles to the guy watching like Patrick Bateman in American psycho You're not actually that bad, are you Tunnel? And Ruby, yes it was. I really have no interest in exhibition. I guess it's a sort of selfish ego kink for me? Meh. I don't know." There are more kinks out there than there are words available to describe them. | |||
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"Wondered what people's experiences are? Do single folk find they are treated well by couples or get what they are looking for? What are couple's expectations from a single playmate? What sort of things lead to disappointment? Referring to both club and private meets. Mrs Some couples assume that they can treat a guy like an unpaid prostitute on here. If I meet a couple I want mutual respect, don't ask me to pay for the hotel room etc. That's interesting. We tend to find that a lot of single men aren't very proactive with regards to accommodation, and tend to look to the couple to make appropriate arrangements, which we feel isn't fair. I think if a man wants to be treated equally, and not as an unpaid prostetute (which we do, though I'm aware other couple don't), the man should take equal responsibility for arrangements. We've only gone down the hotel route once, but we decided to treat the event as a night out in London. We paid because it was our room for the night. It was an exception though. We would find it very awkward booking a hotel room just for sex, and negotiating splitting the cost, so we avoid hotels for that reason." I've met up with a few couples on here and all of them have be nice and have treated me fairly, in regards to paying for rooms and stuff I always offer to pay half for the rooms as otherwise it's not fair if either I or they have to pay for everything | |||
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"Wondered what people's experiences are? Do single folk find they are treated well by couples or get what they are looking for? What are couple's expectations from a single playmate? What sort of things lead to disappointment? Referring to both club and private meets. Mrs Some couples assume that they can treat a guy like an unpaid prostitute on here. If I meet a couple I want mutual respect, don't ask me to pay for the hotel room etc. That's interesting. We tend to find that a lot of single men aren't very proactive with regards to accommodation, and tend to look to the couple to make appropriate arrangements, which we feel isn't fair. I think if a man wants to be treated equally, and not as an unpaid prostetute (which we do, though I'm aware other couple don't), the man should take equal responsibility for arrangements. We've only gone down the hotel route once, but we decided to treat the event as a night out in London. We paid because it was our room for the night. It was an exception though. We would find it very awkward booking a hotel room just for sex, and negotiating splitting the cost, so we avoid hotels for that reason. I've met up with a few couples on here and all of them have be nice and have treated me fairly, in regards to paying for rooms and stuff I always offer to pay half for the rooms as otherwise it's not fair if either I or they have to pay for everything" -------------------------------------- Agreed. I always pay half the hotel costs too. | |||
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"Apologies OP, I think my discussion on one part of my rather broad sexuality has lead to a bit of a tangent. " Oh yeah, Sorry OP, well as far as costs etc. We tend to play away so make a proper night of it, Hotel paid for by us etc. & as said in my previous post we don't really do the watching thing. Our next playmate has asked for a little FF time before full play & I'll probably go to the bar & watch rugby or something for a little while. Watching two others play no matter what sex doesn't do a lot for me, being another involved in the play does. S | |||
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"Generally as good as with singles. I think that's because I'm quite good at finding out if we'd be compatible or not fairly early on. I'm not interested in being a sort of tittilation piece brought in as a present to one half; unless we are all playing I have no interest in it. I've only had one bad play meet since I started swinging and that was with a couple where the woman turned out to be more of a pillow princess than the rampant bisexual she'd been portrayed as being. That fucked me off and being the hotheaded 22yr old I was then, I quickly got dressed and left. I rarely get disappointed with meets. I would like to find more couples where the fem wants to watch the man but it's not that common sadly - female play seems to be all the rage. I would actually love to watch Marc with another woman (more than joining in myself) by its so hard to find that. Most women, understandably, just seek single men for that type of play it seems." Something wed like to experience too lol. The majority of ladies see that as 'performong' though. As I said before we'll discuss it and only do what everyone wants to do so as yet we've not been lucky enough to experience that one. | |||
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"Generally as good as with singles. I think that's because I'm quite good at finding out if we'd be compatible or not fairly early on. I'm not interested in being a sort of tittilation piece brought in as a present to one half; unless we are all playing I have no interest in it. I've only had one bad play meet since I started swinging and that was with a couple where the woman turned out to be more of a pillow princess than the rampant bisexual she'd been portrayed as being. That fucked me off and being the hotheaded 22yr old I was then, I quickly got dressed and left. I rarely get disappointed with meets. I would like to find more couples where the fem wants to watch the man but it's not that common sadly - female play seems to be all the rage. I would actually love to watch Marc with another woman (more than joining in myself) by its so hard to find that. Most women, understandably, just seek single men for that type of play it seems." Yeah we have been wanting to do this for sometime. Mr is happy and has watched me play a few times and really enjoys it I would like to sit and want him him with a female but again finding it hard to find | |||
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"I wouldn't be comfortable with any meet where someone was just watching rather than fully participating, be that the male or the female. But I'm not an exhibitionist and others are, it may be more difficult to find but I'm sure it's not impossible I wouldn't say I'm an exhibitionist - it's just a dynamic I am interested in that happens to involve being watched by another person. I could quite happily meet the male half of the couple without the fem's presence but being aware that it will be discussed later. It's an odd sexually selfish thing for me that I can't quite analyse well enough. Maybe exhibitionist is the wrong word. I could also happily meet the male half of a couple alone even if they would discuss it later, but it's the idea of there being another person there watching and not participating that would be the big turn off for me. " I think with me, I have a fantasy about being forced to sit in the corner whilst my husband or lover or both enjoy a beautiful curvaceous lady and make me jealous. Obviously we're not going to advertise on Fab for a lady meet this fantasy, and even if we found an obliging lady the fantasy probably wouldn't pan out the way I hoped. However I've had variations on this eg watching my husband play at clubs/parties, and one of the hottest scenarios is when we attended a club with one of our guys and he invited his other couple. I spent the night taking it in turns for my lover's attention. Then my husband joined the kinky mix by flirting with the other lady in front of her husband whilst I was naked on the dance floor with my lover. | |||
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"Apologies OP, I think my discussion on one part of my rather broad sexuality has lead to a bit of a tangent. " Not at all. I deliberately kept my questions open to see what people would come up with and see what direction this thread would go in | |||
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"Apologies OP, I think my discussion on one part of my rather broad sexuality has lead to a bit of a tangent. Oh yeah, Sorry OP, well as far as costs etc. We tend to play away so make a proper night of it, Hotel paid for by us etc. & as said in my previous post we don't really do the watching thing. Our next playmate has asked for a little FF time before full play & I'll probably go to the bar & watch rugby or something for a little while. Watching two others play no matter what sex doesn't do a lot for me, being another involved in the play does. S" Those that are using the hotel for the night to sleep should pay. Those that are not paying should leave at the end of the evening. However if the hotel is being booked purely for the purposes of sex and not for staying over, then costs should be split. As I said before I would like to see more proactivity from single men and not assume that it is up to the couple to sort. | |||
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"The couples I've played have always made me feel like the most important person there. I prefer playing with couples more than singles" thats our preference to make the single the centre of our attention xx | |||
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"The couples I've played have always made me feel like the most important person there. I prefer playing with couples more than singles" Think it is the focus of the dynamic. There is something, for me, about resiprosity not a one way street, well in a tri way | |||
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"I have had so many bad experiences when i met couples it just put me off, i have not meet a couple for many years now, i got fed up with the back lash when one or the other got jealous and fell out, of course it was my fault! fed up with the male half trying to get me to meet him alone behind her back while shes telling me what a wonderful relationship they have, fed up with the drama of it all, single guys are just hassle free " Been there and got the t-shirt too. Majority are solid though and no come back. Had the contact from both sides... But always walked away when it gets underhand or behind backs. M x | |||
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"I rarely get disappointed with meets. I would like to find more couples where the fem wants to watch the man but it's not that common sadly - female play seems to be all the rage. I don't think it's actually that uncommon, but because it's harder to achieve not many couples advertise this desire. I for one love either watching my husband or hearing about it. But we would not pursue this fantasy via Fab because we feel it would be too difficult to find a single lady who is willing for me to watch her with him. Why do you feel it's difficult to find? I know myself and a few other fem friends are interested in this kind of play but the majority of profiles seem geared towards satisfying the fem of the couple - be that through mmfs or ff play." Is this a wind up? Ideally that's pretty much what we're looking for...but in the short time we've been on here we've already come to the conclusion that another woman in the mix would primarily have eyes only for the lady. So much so, we updated our profile from looking for another woman to looking for a couple and see how it goes... Being a bi-curious female (with an emphasis on the curious) and wanting to share my man, are we looking for a Holy Grail scenario? We would both love to be proved wrong | |||
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