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"Society as a whole is alot more open and accepting of females being bisexual than males. Guys tend to hide it more to avoid the stigma that comes with it." I agree - most of the guys who contact me have 'straight' on their profiles. I'm fine with that and respect their need to be discreet. However, it means I think very carefully about making first contact. However, I'm glad to say that most guys have been great if I've made the odd mistake. | |||
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"Society as a whole is alot more open and accepting of females being bisexual than males. Guys tend to hide it more to avoid the stigma that comes with it. I agree - most of the guys who contact me have 'straight' on their profiles. I'm fine with that and respect their need to be discreet. However, it means I think very carefully about making first contact. However, I'm glad to say that most guys have been great if I've made the odd mistake." Good point on making first contact, I agree | |||
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"Can anyone explain why there appears to be at least 50 ladies who consider themselves to be Bi to every 1 guy who declares themselves to be Bi. We consider ourselves both to be Bi. G&A" In a word, Stigma... Is the whole sexual inequality thing, but in this instance ladies do rather well out of it. If a woman says she's bi it doesn't shock many, but when a guy reveals he is bi, there's a good chance of mocking, loss of friends and even abuse. A lot of (straight) men are afraid of men who like men. A real man will just accept it and treat you no differently. Sadly there aren't that many real men around these days... | |||
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"It's amazing how many men with 'straight ' as their sexual orientation email us saying they would be happy for husband to suck his cock." And vice versa. We've had it before. Not only to they want to receive, they want to give to... | |||
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"Can anyone explain why there appears to be at least 50 ladies who consider themselves to be Bi to every 1 guy who declares themselves to be Bi. We consider ourselves both to be Bi. G&A In a word, Stigma... Is the whole sexual inequality thing, but in this instance ladies do rather well out of it. If a woman says she's bi it doesn't shock many, but when a guy reveals he is bi, there's a good chance of mocking, loss of friends and even abuse. A lot of (straight) men are afraid of men who like men. A real man will just accept it and treat you no differently. Sadly there aren't that many real men around these days..." I agree entirely. Men who are comfortable with their sexuality just smile and shrug it off. For some men coming face to face with gay or bisexual men makes them very uncomfortable. However, I like to think that the environment of this app is a bit more tolerant and understanding. | |||
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"I agree lots of 'straight' guys hide being bi. But are women also just more tactile and appreciative of each other in general, leading on to a sexual appreciation too? MrB" No. I think that it's far easier (on here) to market yourself as being bisexual when you're a woman - even if you're just curious you can do so without fear of too much stigma as it's seen as a desirable trait. Too many men don't say they are bi-something when they are, too many women do when they are not. | |||
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"Most of the messages I get are from st8 guys even though my profile states I only play with couples Some say it's for discretion but have no pics etc I think it's a fantasy thing for them " I wouldn't contact a guy who has MF in his profile. Some guys are very nervous about MM meets. That's quite understandable, although I always say that I don't bite and they can bring their Teddy for company lol | |||
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"Most of the messages I get are from st8 guys even though my profile states I only play with couples Some say it's for discretion but have no pics etc I think it's a fantasy thing for them I wouldn't contact a guy who has MF in his profile. Some guys are very nervous about MM meets. That's quite understandable, although I always say that I don't bite and they can bring their Teddy for company lol " Lol ...How bugs their reddy  | |||
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"Its a shame really, if guys were more open about and said they are bi in their profile they would have a much better chance of meeting us." It would be a better world if honesty was always easy. Sadly a lot of women and couples won't meet bi or curious guys, plus society's problems with it.....leads many to pretend they are straight. | |||
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"Its a shame really, if guys were more open about and said they are bi in their profile they would have a much better chance of meeting us." It would be a better world if honesty was always easy. Sadly a lot of women and couples won't meet bi or curious guys, plus society's problems with it.....leads many to pretend they are straight. | |||
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"Men are seen as less of a man if they are bi. Personally I love bi men "What a shame you're so far away. | |||
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"It's amazing how many men with 'straight ' as their sexual orientation email us saying they would be happy for husband to suck his cock." Obviously hoping if they suck cock they get to fuck you. Some guys will do bi stuff if it means they get to fuck the woman. They are not bi they just want to fuck the woman. | |||
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"Men are seen as less of a man if they are bi. Personally I love bi men " | |||
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"Can anyone explain why there appears to be at least 50 ladies who consider themselves to be Bi to every 1 guy who declares themselves to be Bi. We consider ourselves both to be Bi. G&A" Bi and queer men like me tend to downplay it to hetero folks and even bi women because of two reasons. On the one hand, there's the idea that someone is automatically less masculine in their outlook and behaviour if they're attracted to other men, which means women often dismiss us as satisfying sexual partners. Bi women do not have to deal with this from men because there is a deeply ingrained societal assumption that all female sexual desire is ultimately for a man's benefit anyway. This is why many men in hetero couples allow their partner to play freely with other women but draw the line at other men - f/f doesn't provoke jealousy because subconsciously he doesn't think it counts. Men in hetero couples also often veto a bi or queer man's involvement because of a closely-intertwined assumption: because we as a society do not respect women's sexual agency, there is a subconscious fear that bi men will treat him in the encounter the same way that hetero men tend to treat women - initiating sexual acts with him without checking in first, ignoring previously agreed boundaries, and generally just putting their own ego first. That's what I reckon, anyway. | |||
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"It's amazing how many men with 'straight ' as their sexual orientation email us saying they would be happy for husband to suck his cock." What they really mean is I am happy for your husband to suck my cock and I hope it leads on to me fucking the wife. When a stright/bi guy contacts you tell him you expect if husband sucks you off he expects the same back. Then watch Mr striaght/bi guy run lol. Guys like that are not bi, they just don't care who is sucking their cock male or female. Thats not being bi. | |||
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"On the one hand, there's the idea that someone is automatically less masculine in their outlook and behaviour if they're attracted to other men, which means women often dismiss us as satisfying sexual partners. Bi women do not have to deal with this from men because there is a deeply ingrained societal assumption that all female sexual desire is ultimately for a man's benefit anyway. This is why many men in hetero couples allow their partner to play freely with other women but draw the line at other men - f/f doesn't provoke jealousy because subconsciously he doesn't think it counts. Men in hetero couples also often veto a bi or queer man's involvement because of a closely-intertwined assumption: because we as a society do not respect women's sexual agency, there is a subconscious fear that bi men will treat him in the encounter the same way that hetero men tend to treat women - initiating sexual acts with him without checking in first, ignoring previously agreed boundaries, and generally just putting their own ego first. That's what I reckon, anyway. " I reckon this is a fantastic post. | |||
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"I agree lots of 'straight' guys hide being bi. But are women also just more tactile and appreciative of each other in general, leading on to a sexual appreciation too? MrB No. I think that it's far easier (on here) to market yourself as being bisexual when you're a woman - even if you're just curious you can do so without fear of too much stigma as it's seen as a desirable trait. Too many men don't say they are bi-something when they are, too many women do when they are not." I agree. I have heard it is called bi bait. Couples put the woman is bi curious hoping it will increase the chances of a meet. | |||
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"Most of the messages I get are from st8 guys even though my profile states I only play with couples Some say it's for discretion but have no pics etc I think it's a fantasy thing for them " Out of curiouslty whn if you are bi do you only want to bi stuff with couples? I have to be honest and say if I was a couple I would be put off by the fact you only want to meet couples. I know we all have preferences. As a coouple I would wonder if you are one of the bi guys who is only doing bi stuff to get to the woman. I am not saying that is what are doing but I would wonder if that is what you are doing. | |||
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"On the one hand, there's the idea that someone is automatically less masculine in their outlook and behaviour if they're attracted to other men, which means women often dismiss us as satisfying sexual partners. Bi women do not have to deal with this from men because there is a deeply ingrained societal assumption that all female sexual desire is ultimately for a man's benefit anyway. This is why many men in hetero couples allow their partner to play freely with other women but draw the line at other men - f/f doesn't provoke jealousy because subconsciously he doesn't think it counts. Men in hetero couples also often veto a bi or queer man's involvement because of a closely-intertwined assumption: because we as a society do not respect women's sexual agency, there is a subconscious fear that bi men will treat him in the encounter the same way that hetero men tend to treat women - initiating sexual acts with him without checking in first, ignoring previously agreed boundaries, and generally just putting their own ego first. That's what I reckon, anyway. I reckon this is a fantastic post. "Shucks. Your quim is stunning, by the way. | |||
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"So many women and couples state in their profiles they won't meet bi guys! Is it any wonder they hide it !!" I agree that some bi guys are hiding it due to some women and couples stating on their profile they will not meet bi guys. However I think some guys who say they hide being bi are not bi. They are just opportunists who think playing bi will get their cock sucked or a play with the female. If youy are truly bi you wouldn't care about having it on your profile. You obviously wouldn't contact anybody who has on their profile no bi guys. There are way more profiles who don't state no bi guys than ones that state no bi guys. | |||
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"I agree lots of 'straight' guys hide being bi. But are women also just more tactile and appreciative of each other in general, leading on to a sexual appreciation too? MrB No. I think that it's far easier (on here) to market yourself as being bisexual when you're a woman - even if you're just curious you can do so without fear of too much stigma as it's seen as a desirable trait. Too many men don't say they are bi-something when they are, too many women do when they are not." Yes, sure there are women who claim to be bi, when they aren't really. I guess 80+% of women in couples or single put bi?? But if you were to take away the pretenders, and just count the genuine cases, I would still say more women are bi or curious than men. MrB | |||
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"I agree lots of 'straight' guys hide being bi. But are women also just more tactile and appreciative of each other in general, leading on to a sexual appreciation too? MrB No. I think that it's far easier (on here) to market yourself as being bisexual when you're a woman - even if you're just curious you can do so without fear of too much stigma as it's seen as a desirable trait. Too many men don't say they are bi-something when they are, too many women do when they are not. Yes, sure there are women who claim to be bi, when they aren't really. I guess 80+% of women in couples or single put bi?? But if you were to take away the pretenders, and just count the genuine cases, I would still say more women are bi or curious than men. MrB" I would diasgree. The percentage of gay people is the same for both male and female. If i remember correctly 10% of men and women are gay. Therefore surely the percentage of people who are truly bi is the same for both male and female. | |||
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"Can anyone explain why there appears to be at least 50 ladies who consider themselves to be Bi to every 1 guy who declares themselves to be Bi. We consider ourselves both to be Bi. G&A" i have to pick bi something as there is no other option although as I dont fancy women. Nor do I have any wish to just play with a woman by myself so bi seems a bit odd. But i do enjoy the voyeuristic nature of and I enjoy playing with a lady as part of a group or as a 3 or moresum. But my sexual pleasure comes from the act being watched and enjoyed rather than the act itself if that makes sense. I am sure many other women are similar and like me they have to pick bi or bi curious. Where as guys only really seem to pick bi if they really are. X | |||
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" Yes, sure there are women who claim to be bi, when they aren't really. I guess 80+% of women in couples or single put bi?? But if you were to take away the pretenders, and just count the genuine cases, I would still say more women are bi or curious than men. MrB I would diasgree. The percentage of gay people is the same for both male and female. If i remember correctly 10% of men and women are gay. Therefore surely the percentage of people who are truly bi is the same for both male and female. " I know that 10% figure is thrown about, and it might be correct. But in swinging more than 10% of women are genuinely bi, I would say most are to a larger or smaller degree. Do you think the majority of men on here are, and just hiding it??? I still believe there to be more bi women in society and also on here. MrB | |||
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"On the one hand, there's the idea that someone is automatically less masculine in their outlook and behaviour if they're attracted to other men, which means women often dismiss us as satisfying sexual partners. Bi women do not have to deal with this from men because there is a deeply ingrained societal assumption that all female sexual desire is ultimately for a man's benefit anyway. This is why many men in hetero couples allow their partner to play freely with other women but draw the line at other men - f/f doesn't provoke jealousy because subconsciously he doesn't think it counts. Men in hetero couples also often veto a bi or queer man's involvement because of a closely-intertwined assumption: because we as a society do not respect women's sexual agency, there is a subconscious fear that bi men will treat him in the encounter the same way that hetero men tend to treat women - initiating sexual acts with him without checking in first, ignoring previously agreed boundaries, and generally just putting their own ego first. That's what I reckon, anyway. I reckon this is a fantastic post. "It's a good post up to a point. Some bits are a tad harsh. To answer the male threat question above I'm not bi but my girl is genuinely bi. We got together after a mff so this is know for sure. I know that's in her and that I don't have the necessary bits to satisfy that side of her hence I don't see her having sex as a threat. But with another guy hell yeah I would I'll be the first with the balls to say it. I would see her having sex with another man as a threat because that means I'm not giving her what she needs from a man. You can go on all day about sexual equality we here's mine she can sleep with a woman but I won't. Same as I can't sleep with a man therefore she won't. It's as simple as that. I'm not holding her back sexually as we have a very active and satisfied sex life why should I let someone else drive my ferrari just because they have a driving licence? **disclaimer I don't actually have a Ferrari it was just a metaphore**  | |||
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" Yes, sure there are women who claim to be bi, when they aren't really. I guess 80+% of women in couples or single put bi?? But if you were to take away the pretenders, and just count the genuine cases, I would still say more women are bi or curious than men. MrB I would diasgree. The percentage of gay people is the same for both male and female. If i remember correctly 10% of men and women are gay. Therefore surely the percentage of people who are truly bi is the same for both male and female. I know that 10% figure is thrown about, and it might be correct. But in swinging more than 10% of women are genuinely bi, I would say most are to a larger or smaller degree. Do you think the majority of men on here are, and just hiding it??? I still believe there to be more bi women in society and also on here. MrB" What's genuinely bi? I think more women are openminded about exploring their sexuality - societal acceptance, pressure, generally being more open minded. If we had to label, I'd call that curious. I don't think there are more bi women then men. | |||
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" I know that 10% figure is thrown about, and it might be correct. But in swinging more than 10% of women are genuinely bi, I would say most are to a larger or smaller degree. Do you think the majority of men on here are, and just hiding it??? I still believe there to be more bi women in society and also on here. MrB What's genuinely bi? I think more women are openminded about exploring their sexuality - societal acceptance, pressure, generally being more open minded. If we had to label, I'd call that curious. I don't think there are more bi women then men. " By 'genuinely' , I'm meaning excluding men and women who are either hiding being bi or pretending to be bi . | |||
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"A test a couple with bi male could do is when a bi guy who has straight in his profile contacts you tell him only the males will playing and the woman will not be playing. See if they still want to meet. You may find Mr staight/bi guy is suddenly not so bi. I really do think some guys are not bi but prpeared to play bi if it means getting his cock sucked or playing with the woman. " Totally agree | |||
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"On the one hand, there's the idea that someone is automatically less masculine in their outlook and behaviour if they're attracted to other men, which means women often dismiss us as satisfying sexual partners. Bi women do not have to deal with this from men because there is a deeply ingrained societal assumption that all female sexual desire is ultimately for a man's benefit anyway. This is why many men in hetero couples allow their partner to play freely with other women but draw the line at other men - f/f doesn't provoke jealousy because subconsciously he doesn't think it counts. Men in hetero couples also often veto a bi or queer man's involvement because of a closely-intertwined assumption: because we as a society do not respect women's sexual agency, there is a subconscious fear that bi men will treat him in the encounter the same way that hetero men tend to treat women - initiating sexual acts with him without checking in first, ignoring previously agreed boundaries, and generally just putting their own ego first. That's what I reckon, anyway. I reckon this is a fantastic post.
It's a good post up to a point.
Some bits are a tad harsh.
To answer the male threat question above
I'm not bi but my girl is genuinely bi. We got together after a mff so this is know for sure. I know that's in her and that I don't have the necessary bits to satisfy that side of her hence I don't see her having sex as a threat. But with another guy hell yeah I would I'll be the first with the balls to say it. I would see her having sex with another man as a threat because that means I'm not giving her what she needs from a man. You can go on all day about sexual equality we here's mine she can sleep with a woman but I won't. Same as I can't sleep with a man therefore she won't. It's as simple as that. I'm not holding her back sexually as we have a very active and satisfied sex life why should I let someone else drive my ferrari just because they have a driving licence?
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"On the one hand, there's the idea that someone is automatically less masculine in their outlook and behaviour if they're attracted to other men, which means women often dismiss us as satisfying sexual partners. Bi women do not have to deal with this from men because there is a deeply ingrained societal assumption that all female sexual desire is ultimately for a man's benefit anyway. This is why many men in hetero couples allow their partner to play freely with other women but draw the line at other men - f/f doesn't provoke jealousy because subconsciously he doesn't think it counts. Men in hetero couples also often veto a bi or queer man's involvement because of a closely-intertwined assumption: because we as a society do not respect women's sexual agency, there is a subconscious fear that bi men will treat him in the encounter the same way that hetero men tend to treat women - initiating sexual acts with him without checking in first, ignoring previously agreed boundaries, and generally just putting their own ego first. That's what I reckon, anyway. I reckon this is a fantastic post.
It's a good post up to a point.
Some bits are a tad harsh.
To answer the male threat question above
I'm not bi but my girl is genuinely bi. We got together after a mff so this is know for sure. I know that's in her and that I don't have the necessary bits to satisfy that side of her hence I don't see her having sex as a threat. But with another guy hell yeah I would I'll be the first with the balls to say it. I would see her having sex with another man as a threat because that means I'm not giving her what she needs from a man. You can go on all day about sexual equality we here's mine she can sleep with a woman but I won't. Same as I can't sleep with a man therefore she won't. It's as simple as that. I'm not holding her back sexually as we have a very active and satisfied sex life why should I let someone else drive my ferrari just because they have a driving licence?
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"It's amazing how many men with 'straight ' as their sexual orientation email us saying they would be happy for husband to suck his cock." Because he loves his cock sucked and does not really care which one of you does the sucking | |||
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"For my two penneth I feel that we live in a much more sexualised world in which people are exploring increasingly blurred boundaries. I do feel that the perception is that women are more likely to have bi tendencies, this I feel comes from the fact that to many, women are more attractive than men, a lady is more likely to recognise beauty in another woman than a man with a man. Further, I feel women are and always have been closer to each other, in that they are more tactile in non sexual ways, such as kissing, holding hands, linking arms and even going to the lav together in pubs. Men however are sexual beasts who's primal urge is sexual gratification and if it wasn't for the perception that gay men are not alpha male, then they would actually be comfortable with sexual activities with other men such as oral and wanking. It's interesting that I class myself as bi, however I have no desire to kiss and be intimate with men yet that desire is very strong with women. Just saying. " Thats how my guy feels | |||
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"On the one hand, there's the idea that someone is automatically less masculine in their outlook and behaviour if they're attracted to other men, which means women often dismiss us as satisfying sexual partners. Bi women do not have to deal with this from men because there is a deeply ingrained societal assumption that all female sexual desire is ultimately for a man's benefit anyway. This is why many men in hetero couples allow their partner to play freely with other women but draw the line at other men - f/f doesn't provoke jealousy because subconsciously he doesn't think it counts. Men in hetero couples also often veto a bi or queer man's involvement because of a closely-intertwined assumption: because we as a society do not respect women's sexual agency, there is a subconscious fear that bi men will treat him in the encounter the same way that hetero men tend to treat women - initiating sexual acts with him without checking in first, ignoring previously agreed boundaries, and generally just putting their own ego first. That's what I reckon, anyway. I reckon this is a fantastic post.
It's a good post up to a point.
Some bits are a tad harsh.
To answer the male threat question above
I'm not bi but my girl is genuinely bi. We got together after a mff so this is know for sure. I know that's in her and that I don't have the necessary bits to satisfy that side of her hence I don't see her having sex as a threat. But with another guy hell yeah I would I'll be the first with the balls to say it. I would see her having sex with another man as a threat because that means I'm not giving her what she needs from a man. You can go on all day about sexual equality we here's mine she can sleep with a woman but I won't. Same as I can't sleep with a man therefore she won't. It's as simple as that. I'm not holding her back sexually as we have a very active and satisfied sex life why should I let someone else drive my ferrari just because they have a driving licence?
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Do you see how you described your partner in terms of personal property there, mate? That's what I'm talking about."But, in the least Dickish way possible, she is mate. As I am her's. Like I said she wouldn't accept me sleeping with another girl any more than I'd accept her sleeping with a guy. The fact she can have sex with a girl is because that's who she is and I for one will never put stop or hold her back from that. The metaphor wasn't that she is my property (like a car) I just don't think it would have been too flattering had I said 'I won't let you drive my fiat punto' ** I don't own a Fiat punto either I actually have an Audi A4 Quattro if anyone is genuinely interested in what I drive however I feel this has now killed the mood**  | |||
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"Because it panders to (heterosexual) male fantasy on the one hand and threatens masculinity on the other. . They say things like "it's the best of both worlds" or "it doubles your chances of getting a date." Bull shit. It's like walking down the middle of the road dodging traffic from both directions. " | |||
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"Can anyone explain why there appears to be at least 50 ladies who consider themselves to be Bi to every 1 guy who declares themselves to be Bi. We consider ourselves both to be Bi. G&A" | |||
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"When you say you "don't have the bits", I'm not sure I buy that. It's pretty rare that people just plug themselves into any old set of genitals; we're attracted to the whole person. There are men who bring a different feel, or who can satisfy a particular kink or have a talent you don't. Why deny her that?" Because we're a couple. We work through our kinks together and I can do what pretty much any other guy can do. It's about being comfortable and satisfied with each other but unfortunately like most men I don't have a fanny for her to lick and finger and books (well I have books but not they're too hairy) I'm not denying her anything! She's more than satisfied | |||
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" Do you see how you described your partner in terms of personal property there, mate? That's what I'm talking about." +1 | |||
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"I agree lots of 'straight' guys hide being bi. But are women also just more tactile and appreciative of each other in general, leading on to a sexual appreciation too? MrB No. I think that it's far easier (on here) to market yourself as being bisexual when you're a woman - even if you're just curious you can do so without fear of too much stigma as it's seen as a desirable trait. Too many men don't say they are bi-something when they are, too many women do when they are not. I agree. I have heard it is called bi bait. Couples put the woman is bi curious hoping it will increase the chances of a meet. " I've often wondered about this,most of the couples who message us or are in our updates state they are Bi. Miss | |||
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"A test a couple with bi male could do is when a bi guy who has straight in his profile contacts you tell him only the males will playing and the woman will not be playing. See if they still want to meet. You may find Mr staight/bi guy is suddenly not so bi. I really do think some guys are not bi but prpeared to play bi if it means getting his cock sucked or playing with the woman. I have had quite a few guys asking me to meet as the wife will not play the first time!!! Some guys are pretending to be a couple to meet Jon j xxx " | |||
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