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). But if I'm honest, I still don't quite get the rational....
(And I mean this for guys looking for regular 1 on 1 sex. I get why guys who are looking for threesomes, group fun, etc. are here) | |||
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"I think most single men are looking for a relationship, but they dare not admit it " Especially the married ones. They are looking for more. | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs" This is more of a chance to get Nsa without having to wine or dine etc like most girls want on dating sites etc and try keep emotions out of it. Not that nice to just have sex with a girl then move on to another 1 an hurt her. Some girls will make you wait a few weeks before sex so here you can have 1 meet an possibly play on that meet. That probably works best with couples because they won't get attached. Clubs are by far the best bet for nsa though had sex with women when I didn't even know there name. | |||
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"I've been really curious about this as well. I've asked a few single guys and they seem to have various different reasons (who'd have thought? ). But if I'm honest, I still don't quite get the rational....
(And I mean this for guys looking for regular 1 on 1 sex. I get why guys who are looking for threesomes, group fun, etc. are here)"Yeah the guys we know personally on the scene (when they are using Fab) they will be looking for threesomes and group sex etc. That I understand. But most single male profiles just seem to want sex. I don't understand why they would use Fab for that given the male:female ratios. | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs This is more of a chance to get Nsa without having to wine or dine etc like most girls want on dating sites etc and try keep emotions out of it. Not that nice to just have sex with a girl then move on to another 1 an hurt her. Some girls will make you wait a few weeks before sex so here you can have 1 meet an possibly play on that meet. That probably works best with couples because they won't get attached. Clubs are by far the best bet for nsa though had sex with women when I didn't even know there name." Ok, so from your experience is harder to get NSA sex from a casual dating site than from Fab? | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs This is more of a chance to get Nsa without having to wine or dine etc like most girls want on dating sites etc and try keep emotions out of it. Not that nice to just have sex with a girl then move on to another 1 an hurt her. Some girls will make you wait a few weeks before sex so here you can have 1 meet an possibly play on that meet. That probably works best with couples because they won't get attached. Clubs are by far the best bet for nsa though had sex with women when I didn't even know there name. Ok, so from your experience is harder to get NSA sex from a casual dating site than from Fab?" No easier to find attractive women in real life or on apps but they don't tend to want sex straightaway. If women see you as potential relationship material they are structured and don't wanna have sex too soon. | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs" I'm not on any other sites, nsa sex is available on dating sites but for me I'm not comfortable with the dishonesty which can often be required to get it. On here I can be totally up front about what I want and both parties know where they stand and what the deal is. On dating sites the waters are too muddy and I'm not into hurting someone's feeling for a shag. As for chatting up girls in bars ect, I do but maybe I just have no game because the ones up for nsa sex seem few and far between. | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs I'm not on any other sites, nsa sex is available on dating sites but for me I'm not comfortable with the dishonesty which can often be required to get it. On here I can be totally up front about what I want and both parties know where they stand and what the deal is. On dating sites the waters are too muddy and I'm not into hurting someone's feeling for a shag. As for chatting up girls in bars ect, I do but maybe I just have no game because the ones up for nsa sex seem few and far between. " The worst is single mothers because they are generally easier because of there situation. Not nice feeling guilty for using people. | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs I'm not on any other sites, nsa sex is available on dating sites but for me I'm not comfortable with the dishonesty which can often be required to get it. On here I can be totally up front about what I want and both parties know where they stand and what the deal is. On dating sites the waters are too muddy and I'm not into hurting someone's feeling for a shag. As for chatting up girls in bars ect, I do but maybe I just have no game because the ones up for nsa sex seem few and far between. " That's true. I used a dating site about 15 years ago. I ticked the 'fun and friendship' box,which to me did not mean exclusive. I had sex with some but not all. But I did find that once I had sex with someone I was expected to be exclusive, and I didn't like that. However I enjoyed the dating aspect, which is frowned upon on Fab. At the time I didn't see why I could date as many men as I liked. Irrelevant now, as I'm part of a couple. | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs" I think they all think it's easier to get someone to do anal on here...and they're probably right! | |||
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"I've been really curious about this as well. I've asked a few single guys and they seem to have various different reasons (who'd have thought? ). But if I'm honest, I still don't quite get the rational....
(And I mean this for guys looking for regular 1 on 1 sex. I get why guys who are looking for threesomes, group fun, etc. are here)
Yeah the guys we know personally on the scene (when they are using Fab) they will be looking for threesomes and group sex etc. That I understand. But most single male profiles just seem to want sex. I don't understand why they would use Fab for that given the male:female ratios."Because it's not a game of chance so ratio's mean nothing. | |||
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"I've been really curious about this as well. I've asked a few single guys and they seem to have various different reasons (who'd have thought? ). But if I'm honest, I still don't quite get the rational....
(And I mean this for guys looking for regular 1 on 1 sex. I get why guys who are looking for threesomes, group fun, etc. are here)
Yeah the guys we know personally on the scene (when they are using Fab) they will be looking for threesomes and group sex etc. That I understand. But most single male profiles just seem to want sex. I don't understand why they would use Fab for that given the male:female ratios.
Because it's not a game of chance so ratio's mean nothing."Exactly it's not a game of chance. So because of that, some do quite well, most don't, and lots won't get a meet at all. So what's the point? If it were chance then it would be like the lottery, so is worth taking that chance. | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs I'm not on any other sites, nsa sex is available on dating sites but for me I'm not comfortable with the dishonesty which can often be required to get it. On here I can be totally up front about what I want and both parties know where they stand and what the deal is. On dating sites the waters are too muddy and I'm not into hurting someone's feeling for a shag. As for chatting up girls in bars ect, I do but maybe I just have no game because the ones up for nsa sex seem few and far between. The worst is single mothers because they are generally easier because of there situation. Not nice feeling guilty for using people." Its not, have to admit I've done it in the past but then made the conscious decision me getting my end away isn't worth it. I have no problem using someone, as long as they are also using me. | |||
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"I've been really curious about this as well. I've asked a few single guys and they seem to have various different reasons (who'd have thought? ). But if I'm honest, I still don't quite get the rational....
(And I mean this for guys looking for regular 1 on 1 sex. I get why guys who are looking for threesomes, group fun, etc. are here)
Yeah the guys we know personally on the scene (when they are using Fab) they will be looking for threesomes and group sex etc. That I understand. But most single male profiles just seem to want sex. I don't understand why they would use Fab for that given the male:female ratios.
Because it's not a game of chance so ratio's mean nothing."Statistics matter even when something isn't up to chance....otherwise lots of quantitative analysis would be absolutely useless. | |||
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" Single men on a Fab - what's in it for you? " Sex, gin and crisps | |||
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"I've been really curious about this as well. I've asked a few single guys and they seem to have various different reasons (who'd have thought? ). But if I'm honest, I still don't quite get the rational....
(And I mean this for guys looking for regular 1 on 1 sex. I get why guys who are looking for threesomes, group fun, etc. are here)
Yeah the guys we know personally on the scene (when they are using Fab) they will be looking for threesomes and group sex etc. That I understand. But most single male profiles just seem to want sex. I don't understand why they would use Fab for that given the male:female ratios.
Because it's not a game of chance so ratio's mean nothing.
Exactly it's not a game of chance. So because of that, some do quite well, most don't, and lots won't get a meet at all. So what's the point? If it were chance then it would be like the lottery, so is worth taking that chance. "The data isn't available to see but maybe you are right. There is likely a smallish group of guys having a good time on here and sticking around while the vast majority of male profiles are having a high rate of turnover with little success. If that's the case then there isn't really as much competition as it might first appear, if you're one of the successful guys you only really have to compete with the other small number of successful guys. | |||
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" Single men on a Fab - what's in it for you? Sex, gin and crisps" Sign me up for that shit! | |||
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"I've been really curious about this as well. I've asked a few single guys and they seem to have various different reasons (who'd have thought? ). But if I'm honest, I still don't quite get the rational....
(And I mean this for guys looking for regular 1 on 1 sex. I get why guys who are looking for threesomes, group fun, etc. are here)
Yeah the guys we know personally on the scene (when they are using Fab) they will be looking for threesomes and group sex etc. That I understand. But most single male profiles just seem to want sex. I don't understand why they would use Fab for that given the male:female ratios.
Because it's not a game of chance so ratio's mean nothing.
Exactly it's not a game of chance. So because of that, some do quite well, most don't, and lots won't get a meet at all. So what's the point? If it were chance then it would be like the lottery, so is worth taking that chance. "What he means is that because its not a game of chance, it comes down to the male in question. As long as youre not grossly overweight, socially retarded or puck ugly, youre going to get sex on here. Theres no mystery to this. The men who dont get sex in here will probably, not all of course, but probably fall into one or all of the above categories | |||
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"Well if everyone had the same equal rights in having fun here which is not so then you would not have disgruntled male on this here i think but whose it for me to say it? "Sex isn't a right. | |||
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"I find it easier to get meets on the other casual sex site I am. I mostly just use fab for the forum, it is comedy gold "Oooh and what site is that do share | |||
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"Why do people, who never get a reply, stick around? " Well it doesnt exactly require any effort to just keep an app on your phone and throw the odd msg out when youre horny does it? | |||
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"I've been really curious about this as well. I've asked a few single guys and they seem to have various different reasons (who'd have thought? ). But if I'm honest, I still don't quite get the rational....
(And I mean this for guys looking for regular 1 on 1 sex. I get why guys who are looking for threesomes, group fun, etc. are here)
Yeah the guys we know personally on the scene (when they are using Fab) they will be looking for threesomes and group sex etc. That I understand. But most single male profiles just seem to want sex. I don't understand why they would use Fab for that given the male:female ratios.
Because it's not a game of chance so ratio's mean nothing.
Exactly it's not a game of chance. So because of that, some do quite well, most don't, and lots won't get a meet at all. So what's the point? If it were chance then it would be like the lottery, so is worth taking that chance. "If it were simply chance it wouldnt be worth it. As its not chance you can make your own success | |||
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"Purely because im young and want to have an adventurous sex life and try everything before settling down, and it also opens your eyes a fair bit in what women want rather than believing the stereotypical "massive hung blokes", people are into different things. Eye opener ??" Interestingly enough. I have found this site to prove just about every "toxic", shallow stereotype there was about casual sex. Looks matter, penis size matters, people are very shallow. Even in the social side. The better you look, the better you will do. Single women have the most choice in many real world swinging environments because they're "unicorns". | |||
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"For clubs, cuckolding and MMF threesomes...last I checked Tinder/POF doesnt cater to any of those. I think people here get upset when men dont simply take their gruel and continue to tell the users here what fantastic, beautiful creatures they are. I have been here for two years...even in that short time I notice that a lot of it gets progressively more occupied by dreamers than the serious freaks. I dont send me messages and it costs me nothing to be here and I like looking at the hot pics. Doesnt really cost me. Not everyone who is on this site will find everything about it fantastic just to make you feel better. " But I never said everyone finds it's fantastic, and I certainly didn't say or think that people find it fantastic to make me feel better! As I said in my opening post, I'm extremely aware of disgruntled men on Fab, so I was just wondering of being here. As one of the unverified men who frequently verbalises disssatisfaction, and often anger due to the time-wasting that you have sadly had to ensure, I'm guessing this site has not served you well when it comes to finding cuckolding and threesomes. Though ironically it's the women you complain about, not the couples. But you are right it's an excellent site for looking at hot pics | |||
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"Well if everyone had the same equal rights in having fun here which is not so then you would not have disgruntled male on this here i think but whose it for me to say it? "Everybody does have equal rights on Fab. Fab admin have not given more rights to certain people and discriminated again others, thus making it easier for some people to get meets and harder for others. The starting point is that nobody has a right to sex, but everybody is given equal oppportinies by Fab to find sex. The rest is the same as with all aspects of life. There will be some who are good at getting a meets and some who are not. The outcomes are not equal but the rights are. | |||
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"Purely because im young and want to have an adventurous sex life and try everything before settling down, and it also opens your eyes a fair bit in what women want rather than believing the stereotypical "massive hung blokes", people are into different things. Eye opener ?? Interestingly enough. I have found this site to prove just about every "toxic", shallow stereotype there was about casual sex. Looks matter, penis size matters, people are very shallow. Even in the social side. The better you look, the better you will do. Single women have the most choice in many real world swinging environments because they're "unicorns". " So as a goodlooking hung guy with a good body, why have do you had so many problems with Fab? You are presumably exactly the man shallow people want. Unless of course you don't want someone who's shallow? But to attract the nicer people who are not fussed about your physical attributes would require a different approach. At the end of the day, there will always be a certain amount of shallowness from everybody (male or female) when looking for NSA sex, because if it's just NSA and not a relationship, then the physical will carry a greater level of importance. Those like myself, who seek a more friendship style NSA arrangement will take personality into account a lot more. If it's just 'fuck and go' in a club then I'm less concerned about personality and it will be a lot more about the physical. | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs" Sex is and can be great. Not guaranteed is it. 
I can tell you , one single male is here on the forums for a bit of a natter. And bit of socialising because that's how we do things these days.
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs" Well to me it's like everything in life you keep your options open. I'm also on other sites and yeah I do okay on them but I'm also up front about what I'm looking for. A lot of other men I've been told go on the dating sites saying they're after relationships but obviously not so yeah they might have a better success rate on them but only by defraud. I also pull as they say when I'm out in Leeds but I'm selective and I know from experience I have a lot of male friends what aren't and they know what bars to frequent if they're after a one nighter. As a single male on fab you should just take anything as a bonus and just enjoy the different aspects what FAB can bring you. Regards Dean | |||
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"the site is called fab swingers. it's not called fab couples. my interest in life is meeting like minded folks who enjoy gang bangs. clubs parties. one to one etc. that would class me as a swinger. it why I'm in the site. o cum you just asking single guys and not single woman. " I explained that in my opening post. There seems to be a lot of disgruntled single men who say they are looking for NSA sex but not finding it, and possibly finding it easier from other sources. I was really referring to guys who are looking for NSA sex as opposed to a swinging experience. No it's not Fab Couples, and as a couple who prefers to play with single male swingers as opposed to couples, we should know. I didn't ask why single wonen use Fab because that didn't really interest me. What interests me is very specific to single men seeking NSA sex. | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs Well to me it's like everything in life you keep your options open. I'm also on other sites and yeah I do okay on them but I'm also up front about what I'm looking for. A lot of other men I've been told go on the dating sites saying they're after relationships but obviously not so yeah they might have a better success rate on them but only by defraud. I also pull as they say when I'm out in Leeds but I'm selective and I know from experience I have a lot of male friends what aren't and they know what bars to frequent if they're after a one nighter. As a single male on fab you should just take anything as a bonus and just enjoy the different aspects what FAB can bring you. Regards Dean" Ok that's interesting. So the casual dating sites aren't really that casual? The reality is that exclusivity will be expected before long, so anybody wanting NSA sex has to be a bit dishonest? That was certainly my experience of a dating site 15 years ago as I said in an earlier post, but I don't know what it's like now. | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs Well to me it's like everything in life you keep your options open. I'm also on other sites and yeah I do okay on them but I'm also up front about what I'm looking for. A lot of other men I've been told go on the dating sites saying they're after relationships but obviously not so yeah they might have a better success rate on them but only by defraud. I also pull as they say when I'm out in Leeds but I'm selective and I know from experience I have a lot of male friends what aren't and they know what bars to frequent if they're after a one nighter. As a single male on fab you should just take anything as a bonus and just enjoy the different aspects what FAB can bring you. Regards Dean Ok that's interesting. So the casual dating sites aren't really that casual? The reality is that exclusivity will be expected before long, so anybody wanting NSA sex has to be a bit dishonest? That was certainly my experience of a dating site 15 years ago as I said in an earlier post, but I don't know what it's like now. " From chatting with people on the dating site it is totally all males being dishonest and telling the females what they believe they want them to hear to try and get into their knickers either straight away or after a couple of dates. Most female profiles now on these so called dating sites even state not looking for fb or fwb. But like all free sites anyone can state the complete opposite for what they're really looking for or after. I get a few compliments with my honesty on my profile but obviously don't get loads of meets. Mine are usually when on late at night or early morning. | |||
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"the site is called fab swingers. it's not called fab couples. my interest in life is meeting like minded folks who enjoy gang bangs. clubs parties. one to one etc. that would class me as a swinger. it why I'm in the site. o cum you just asking single guys and not single woman. I explained that in my opening post. There seems to be a lot of disgruntled single men who say they are looking for NSA sex but not finding it, and possibly finding it easier from other sources. I was really referring to guys who are looking for NSA sex as opposed to a swinging experience. No it's not Fab Couples, and as a couple who prefers to play with single male swingers as opposed to couples, we should know. I didn't ask why single wonen use Fab because that didn't really interest me. What interests me is very specific to single men seeking NSA sex. " Swinging is about as NSA as it can get. | |||
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"For me personally... It fits in with my hectic work life balance and also due to the fact I don't seek a full on relationship. It's a tool to meet like minded people who also have a taste for good fun...whatever there tastes may be. Tradional dating sites usually mean at the end of it there is some form of commitment...not what I seek! Also I enjoy the banter and expanding ones fun social circle "Quality mate you got it there in one. It's a tool to meet just like other sites are. And any workman knows the more tools you have the more chance of getting something done.... | |||
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"For me personally... It fits in with my hectic work life balance and also due to the fact I don't seek a full on relationship. It's a tool to meet like minded people who also have a taste for good fun...whatever there tastes may be. Tradional dating sites usually mean at the end of it there is some form of commitment...not what I seek! Also I enjoy the banter and expanding ones fun social circle
Quality mate you got it there in one.
It's a tool to meet just like other sites are. And any workman knows the more tools you have the more chance of getting something done...."This is what i keep telling my manger. The other shift who share my tools lose them and thats why i haven't done any work. He seems to think the fact im on my phone watching netflix is a bigger factor though... | |||
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"For me personally... It fits in with my hectic work life balance and also due to the fact I don't seek a full on relationship. It's a tool to meet like minded people who also have a taste for good fun...whatever there tastes may be. Tradional dating sites usually mean at the end of it there is some form of commitment...not what I seek! Also I enjoy the banter and expanding ones fun social circle
Quality mate you got it there in one.
It's a tool to meet just like other sites are. And any workman knows the more tools you have the more chance of getting something done....
This is what i keep telling my manger.
The other shift who share my tools lose them and thats why i haven't done any work.
He seems to think the fact im on my phone watching netflix is a bigger factor though..."You clearly need a new manager! | |||
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"the site is called fab swingers. it's not called fab couples. my interest in life is meeting like minded folks who enjoy gang bangs. clubs parties. one to one etc. that would class me as a swinger. it why I'm in the site. o cum you just asking single guys and not single woman. I explained that in my opening post. There seems to be a lot of disgruntled single men who say they are looking for NSA sex but not finding it, and possibly finding it easier from other sources. I was really referring to guys who are looking for NSA sex as opposed to a swinging experience. No it's not Fab Couples, and as a couple who prefers to play with single male swingers as opposed to couples, we should know. I didn't ask why single wonen use Fab because that didn't really interest me. What interests me is very specific to single men seeking NSA sex. Swinging is about as NSA as it can get." Swinging is one aspect of NSA sex. | |||
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"the site is called fab swingers. it's not called fab couples. my interest in life is meeting like minded folks who enjoy gang bangs. clubs parties. one to one etc. that would class me as a swinger. it why I'm in the site. o cum you just asking single guys and not single woman. I explained that in my opening post. There seems to be a lot of disgruntled single men who say they are looking for NSA sex but not finding it, and possibly finding it easier from other sources. I was really referring to guys who are looking for NSA sex as opposed to a swinging experience. No it's not Fab Couples, and as a couple who prefers to play with single male swingers as opposed to couples, we should know. I didn't ask why single wonen use Fab because that didn't really interest me. What interests me is very specific to single men seeking NSA sex. Swinging is about as NSA as it can get. Swinging is one aspect of NSA sex. " Not really because not all nsa is swinging but you said people looking for nsa as opposed to a swinging experience. But as swinging is traditionally couples it is much more nsa than two singles fucking due to everyone already having thier strings neatly tied up | |||
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"For me personally... It fits in with my hectic work life balance and also due to the fact I don't seek a full on relationship. It's a tool to meet like minded people who also have a taste for good fun...whatever there tastes may be. Tradional dating sites usually mean at the end of it there is some form of commitment...not what I seek! Also I enjoy the banter and expanding ones fun social circle
Quality mate you got it there in one.
It's a tool to meet just like other sites are. And any workman knows the more tools you have the more chance of getting something done....
This is what i keep telling my manger.
The other shift who share my tools lose them and thats why i haven't done any work.
He seems to think the fact im on my phone watching netflix is a bigger factor though...
You clearly need a new manager! "Comlany has over a trillion euros in orders and I'm seriously having to consider buying my own 3/8th socket because they keep losing it and it takes 3 weeks to get a new one. Couldnt make it up | |||
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8) they've more chance in here of 'porn style sex' group activity, kink etc etc!
The above reasons – or a combination of them – are also why many of the single women are on the site too I think! | |||
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"the site is called fab swingers. it's not called fab couples. my interest in life is meeting like minded folks who enjoy gang bangs. clubs parties. one to one etc. that would class me as a swinger. it why I'm in the site. o cum you just asking single guys and not single woman. I explained that in my opening post. There seems to be a lot of disgruntled single men who say they are looking for NSA sex but not finding it, and possibly finding it easier from other sources. I was really referring to guys who are looking for NSA sex as opposed to a swinging experience. No it's not Fab Couples, and as a couple who prefers to play with single male swingers as opposed to couples, we should know. I didn't ask why single wonen use Fab because that didn't really interest me. What interests me is very specific to single men seeking NSA sex. Swinging is about as NSA as it can get. Swinging is one aspect of NSA sex. Not really because not all nsa is swinging but you said people looking for nsa as opposed to a swinging experience. But as swinging is traditionally couples it is much more nsa than two singles fucking due to everyone already having thier strings neatly tied up" I was curious about single guys who, are not particularly interested in swinging, but want sex. With regard to NSA being more realistic with couples than singles, yes it is true that a single man having sex with me, who comes as part of a swinging couple, will arguably get a safer bet of NSA than if I were single. As you say, the basis that my strings are tied to my husband's strings as opposed to be dangling free. | |||
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"Well as a single fem on here the vast majority of the people I meet are single males! I tend to meet 'nice' guys with at least a few brain cells and a good personality! They tend to fall into the following categories: 1) Travel a lot with work/establishing their career so lack of free time makes a relationship difficult! 2) great looking, great body and 'nice' but shit job/no house etc so many women in the real world wouldn't consider them much of a catch - whereas on here they do well because their job etc isn't a factor in meeting! 3) Not long out of a painful relationship and on fab for a break from getting hurt before they're ready to risk dating/getting hurt again! 4) already in a relationship but for their own reasons want 'extra spice' - and would rather take their chances on here and be honest about it than be deceitful in the real world! 5) they have kids/family members with special needs/illnesses etc and need to be around for them! 6) They ARE open to dating too - and they're on fab as well as dating sites! 7) Conversely - the fact that it's harder to get a meet on here makes it more thrilling when you DO get one - and you've more chance of getting quality sex as you can openly see/discuss likes/dislikes etc! If you get on really well you can also see each other again whilst being openly free to see others without having to lie about it! How cool is that?
8) they've more chance in here of 'porn style sex' group activity, kink etc etc!
The above reasons – or a combination of them – are also why many of the single women are on the site too I think!"You missed the one with Mental Health issues ...yes they do exist | |||
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"Well as a single fem on here the vast majority of the people I meet are single males! I tend to meet 'nice' guys with at least a few brain cells and a good personality! They tend to fall into the following categories: 1) Travel a lot with work/establishing their career so lack of free time makes a relationship difficult! 2) great looking, great body and 'nice' but shit job/no house etc so many women in the real world wouldn't consider them much of a catch - whereas on here they do well because their job etc isn't a factor in meeting! 3) Not long out of a painful relationship and on fab for a break from getting hurt before they're ready to risk dating/getting hurt again! 4) already in a relationship but for their own reasons want 'extra spice' - and would rather take their chances on here and be honest about it than be deceitful in the real world! 5) they have kids/family members with special needs/illnesses etc and need to be around for them! 6) They ARE open to dating too - and they're on fab as well as dating sites! 7) Conversely - the fact that it's harder to get a meet on here makes it more thrilling when you DO get one - and you've more chance of getting quality sex as you can openly see/discuss likes/dislikes etc! If you get on really well you can also see each other again whilst being openly free to see others without having to lie about it! How cool is that?
8) they've more chance in here of 'porn style sex' group activity, kink etc etc!
The above reasons – or a combination of them – are also why many of the single women are on the site too I think!"That's interesting to hear that perspective from a single lady. Also how Fab is a benefit to single ladies. As I said in previous posts, when I used dating sites 15 years ago I found men would push for exclusivity that I never wanted. I wonder if I would have got more understanding about my need for mulitiple partners from Fab (had it existed then). The men we meet from Fab are men specifically interested in couple play, so I don't know what goes on with men who don't specifically seek out couples. But that's interesting. | |||
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"Purely because im young and want to have an adventurous sex life and try everything before settling down, and it also opens your eyes a fair bit in what women want rather than believing the stereotypical "massive hung blokes", people are into different things. Eye opener ?? Interestingly enough. I have found this site to prove just about every "toxic", shallow stereotype there was about casual sex. Looks matter, penis size matters, people are very shallow. Even in the social side. The better you look, the better you will do. Single women have the most choice in many real world swinging environments because they're "unicorns". So as a goodlooking hung guy with a good body, why have do you had so many problems with Fab? You are presumably exactly the man shallow people want. Unless of course you don't want someone who's shallow? But to attract the nicer people who are not fussed about your physical attributes would require a different approach. At the end of the day, there will always be a certain amount of shallowness from everybody (male or female) when looking for NSA sex, because if it's just NSA and not a relationship, then the physical will carry a greater level of importance. Those like myself, who seek a more friendship style NSA arrangement will take personality into account a lot more. If it's just 'fuck and go' in a club then I'm less concerned about personality and it will be a lot more about the physical. " I have not had so many problems with Fab. Who even says that my dissatisfaction has to do with my own experiences on here? I dont really have to be constantly positive about this place. I think you need to accept people will _iew things differently whether you like that or not. | |||
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"Well as a single fem on here the vast majority of the people I meet are single males! I tend to meet 'nice' guys with at least a few brain cells and a good personality! They tend to fall into the following categories: 1) Travel a lot with work/establishing their career so lack of free time makes a relationship difficult! 2) great looking, great body and 'nice' but shit job/no house etc so many women in the real world wouldn't consider them much of a catch - whereas on here they do well because their job etc isn't a factor in meeting! 3) Not long out of a painful relationship and on fab for a break from getting hurt before they're ready to risk dating/getting hurt again! 4) already in a relationship but for their own reasons want 'extra spice' - and would rather take their chances on here and be honest about it than be deceitful in the real world! 5) they have kids/family members with special needs/illnesses etc and need to be around for them! 6) They ARE open to dating too - and they're on fab as well as dating sites! 7) Conversely - the fact that it's harder to get a meet on here makes it more thrilling when you DO get one - and you've more chance of getting quality sex as you can openly see/discuss likes/dislikes etc! If you get on really well you can also see each other again whilst being openly free to see others without having to lie about it! How cool is that?
8) they've more chance in here of 'porn style sex' group activity, kink etc etc!
The above reasons – or a combination of them – are also why many of the single women are on the site too I think!
You missed the one with Mental Health issues ...yes they do exist "Sorry you're right they definitely do - as do women with mental health issues! Xx | |||
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"Purely because im young and want to have an adventurous sex life and try everything before settling down, and it also opens your eyes a fair bit in what women want rather than believing the stereotypical "massive hung blokes", people are into different things. Eye opener ?? Interestingly enough. I have found this site to prove just about every "toxic", shallow stereotype there was about casual sex. Looks matter, penis size matters, people are very shallow. Even in the social side. The better you look, the better you will do. Single women have the most choice in many real world swinging environments because they're "unicorns". So as a goodlooking hung guy with a good body, why have do you had so many problems with Fab? You are presumably exactly the man shallow people want. Unless of course you don't want someone who's shallow? But to attract the nicer people who are not fussed about your physical attributes would require a different approach. At the end of the day, there will always be a certain amount of shallowness from everybody (male or female) when looking for NSA sex, because if it's just NSA and not a relationship, then the physical will carry a greater level of importance. Those like myself, who seek a more friendship style NSA arrangement will take personality into account a lot more. If it's just 'fuck and go' in a club then I'm less concerned about personality and it will be a lot more about the physical. I have not had so many problems with Fab. Who even says that my dissatisfaction has to do with my own experiences on here? I dont really have to be constantly positive about this place. I think you need to accept people will _iew things differently whether you like that or not." Well it's a bit unusual to be dissatisfied with something due to someone else's experiences. The guys that are out there playing regularly and having a good time, are unlikely to be dissatisfied with Fab because of the experience that someone else has. Your complaints are certainly worded in a way that suggests they are your experiences. | |||
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"Well as a single fem on here the vast majority of the people I meet are single males! I tend to meet 'nice' guys with at least a few brain cells and a good personality! They tend to fall into the following categories: 1) Travel a lot with work/establishing their career so lack of free time makes a relationship difficult! 2) great looking, great body and 'nice' but shit job/no house etc so many women in the real world wouldn't consider them much of a catch - whereas on here they do well because their job etc isn't a factor in meeting! 3) Not long out of a painful relationship and on fab for a break from getting hurt before they're ready to risk dating/getting hurt again! 4) already in a relationship but for their own reasons want 'extra spice' - and would rather take their chances on here and be honest about it than be deceitful in the real world! 5) they have kids/family members with special needs/illnesses etc and need to be around for them! 6) They ARE open to dating too - and they're on fab as well as dating sites! 7) Conversely - the fact that it's harder to get a meet on here makes it more thrilling when you DO get one - and you've more chance of getting quality sex as you can openly see/discuss likes/dislikes etc! If you get on really well you can also see each other again whilst being openly free to see others without having to lie about it! How cool is that?
8) they've more chance in here of 'porn style sex' group activity, kink etc etc!
The above reasons – or a combination of them – are also why many of the single women are on the site too I think!
You missed the one with Mental Health issues ...yes they do exist
Sorry you're right they definitely do - as do women with mental health issues! Xx"I work in the profession and I can spot the signs quite easily...it's frightening x | |||
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"Introduced to the site by a couple I was cucking at the time. Never really looked back...six years later (mostly on a previous profile): I've met lots and lots of open minded people...ladies, couples, other guys as friends..... been to and hosted parties galore, got into clubs. Had lots of one-off meets, many repeats, provided services for couples. Had a few longer term fwb relationships.....made a few very very good friends who share the ideals of the lifestyle. In other words, as a swinger of long-standing (perhaps not realising at first) ..fab has enabled me to widen my horizons. This may not be the case for many of the men here (I think the OP refers to mainly the influx of newer guys, many of whom do seem to be either attached, or simply looking for a quick shag, in which case I follow their thinking) but for me, it serves a purpose, as it does for women and couples." Yes with regards to your last paragraph, that's exactly what I was referring to. I wasn't referring to the men like yourself or the men we play with, who enjoy and are active on the swing scene. Although I'm not complaining about the guys who are not particularly interested in swinging, I'm just curious. | |||
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"Well as a single fem on here the vast majority of the people I meet are single males! I tend to meet 'nice' guys with at least a few brain cells and a good personality! They tend to fall into the following categories: 1) Travel a lot with work/establishing their career so lack of free time makes a relationship difficult! 2) great looking, great body and 'nice' but shit job/no house etc so many women in the real world wouldn't consider them much of a catch - whereas on here they do well because their job etc isn't a factor in meeting! 3) Not long out of a painful relationship and on fab for a break from getting hurt before they're ready to risk dating/getting hurt again! 4) already in a relationship but for their own reasons want 'extra spice' - and would rather take their chances on here and be honest about it than be deceitful in the real world! 5) they have kids/family members with special needs/illnesses etc and need to be around for them! 6) They ARE open to dating too - and they're on fab as well as dating sites! 7) Conversely - the fact that it's harder to get a meet on here makes it more thrilling when you DO get one - and you've more chance of getting quality sex as you can openly see/discuss likes/dislikes etc! If you get on really well you can also see each other again whilst being openly free to see others without having to lie about it! How cool is that?
8) they've more chance in here of 'porn style sex' group activity, kink etc etc!
The above reasons – or a combination of them – are also why many of the single women are on the site too I think!
You missed the one with Mental Health issues ...yes they do exist
Sorry you're right they definitely do - as do women with mental health issues! Xx
I work in the profession and I can spot the signs quite easily...it's frightening x"I Don't work in the profession but agree they can be spotted quite easily - hence I take a little time getting to know people by messaging and have a chat on the phone before a meet is arranged! So far it's worked well! | |||
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Especially the married ones. They are looking for more."ha ha she knows the score | |||
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"Well as a single fem on here the vast majority of the people I meet are single males! I tend to meet 'nice' guys with at least a few brain cells and a good personality! They tend to fall into the following categories: 1) Travel a lot with work/establishing their career so lack of free time makes a relationship difficult! 2) great looking, great body and 'nice' but shit job/no house etc so many women in the real world wouldn't consider them much of a catch - whereas on here they do well because their job etc isn't a factor in meeting! 3) Not long out of a painful relationship and on fab for a break from getting hurt before they're ready to risk dating/getting hurt again! 4) already in a relationship but for their own reasons want 'extra spice' - and would rather take their chances on here and be honest about it than be deceitful in the real world! 5) they have kids/family members with special needs/illnesses etc and need to be around for them! 6) They ARE open to dating too - and they're on fab as well as dating sites! 7) Conversely - the fact that it's harder to get a meet on here makes it more thrilling when you DO get one - and you've more chance of getting quality sex as you can openly see/discuss likes/dislikes etc! If you get on really well you can also see each other again whilst being openly free to see others without having to lie about it! How cool is that?
8) they've more chance in here of 'porn style sex' group activity, kink etc etc!
The above reasons – or a combination of them – are also why many of the single women are on the site too I think!
You missed the one with Mental Health issues ...yes they do exist
Sorry you're right they definitely do - as do women with mental health issues! Xx
I work in the profession and I can spot the signs quite easily...it's frightening x
I Don't work in the profession but agree they can be spotted quite easily - hence I take a little time getting to know people by messaging and have a chat on the phone before a meet is arranged!
So far it's worked well! "Great minds!....I have my 3 step rule.. 1 chat on fab and establish some banter... 2 move to phone and see if we click..at this point I can usually tell of any Reg flags as I call them 3 Meet socially...the rest as they say is history xx | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs" Many are looking for "porn star" kind of NSA girl. On a night out or dating sites, is more a missionary position, some sucking fuck and go thing. Nothing too naughty, all too vanilla. Because fab is all about sex, most think that on here they will find the wildest and easiest ones who deepthroat, gag, choke, are-fucked-like-a-slut-they-are, are into watersports, bdsm and will fullfill they need of fucking a "porn star" as soon as they meet. | |||
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"Believe it or not there are actually some single women on here and it is possible to meet them and have some fun along the way. Personally I find this place a lot easier to be open and honest with people over the more traditional 'dating' sites. Try telling a woman on tinder you're after NSA and see how far it goes. " Gi'z a snog!  | |||
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"Believe it or not there are actually some single women on here and it is possible to meet them and have some fun along the way. Personally I find this place a lot easier to be open and honest with people over the more traditional 'dating' sites. Try telling a woman on tinder you're after NSA and see how far it goes. " When I split from my ex, I used Tinder and met quite a few guys from there for NSA sex before I'd even heard about Fab. | |||
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"Believe it or not there are actually some single women on here and it is possible to meet them and have some fun along the way. Personally I find this place a lot easier to be open and honest with people over the more traditional 'dating' sites. Try telling a woman on tinder you're after NSA and see how far it goes. When I split from my ex, I used Tinder and met quite a few guys from there for NSA sex before I'd even heard about Fab." I've no doubt there are women using it for that, however my and my friends experience is that the VAST majority of women that we chatted to are looking for more than that. | |||
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"Believe it or not there are actually some single women on here and it is possible to meet them and have some fun along the way. Personally I find this place a lot easier to be open and honest with people over the more traditional 'dating' sites. Try telling a woman on tinder you're after NSA and see how far it goes. Gi'z a snog! "Only a snog!?  | |||
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"Believe it or not there are actually some single women on here and it is possible to meet them and have some fun along the way. Personally I find this place a lot easier to be open and honest with people over the more traditional 'dating' sites. Try telling a woman on tinder you're after NSA and see how far it goes. When I split from my ex, I used Tinder and met quite a few guys from there for NSA sex before I'd even heard about Fab." So deviating slightly, but as a single lady looking for NSA what do you find the differences are in your experiences of Fab versus Tinder? | |||
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"Believe it or not there are actually some single women on here and it is possible to meet them and have some fun along the way. Personally I find this place a lot easier to be open and honest with people over the more traditional 'dating' sites. Try telling a woman on tinder you're after NSA and see how far it goes. " That's because tinder has turned into a dating site.... the last 2 weddings I went to met each other on tinder | |||
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"Believe it or not there are actually some single women on here and it is possible to meet them and have some fun along the way. Personally I find this place a lot easier to be open and honest with people over the more traditional 'dating' sites. Try telling a woman on tinder you're after NSA and see how far it goes. Gi'z a snog!
Only a snog!? "Depends how good the snog is! | |||
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"Believe it or not there are actually some single women on here and it is possible to meet them and have some fun along the way. Personally I find this place a lot easier to be open and honest with people over the more traditional 'dating' sites. Try telling a woman on tinder you're after NSA and see how far it goes. When I split from my ex, I used Tinder and met quite a few guys from there for NSA sex before I'd even heard about Fab. I've no doubt there are women using it for that, however my and my friends experience is that the VAST majority of women that we chatted to are looking for more than that. " I didn't know what to expect from the site. I just clicked yes on the men I thought looked nice but never expected them to click yes to me and to message me. It was a confidence booster especially for someone of my age who isn't slim and gorgeous  | |||
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"Believe it or not there are actually some single women on here and it is possible to meet them and have some fun along the way. Personally I find this place a lot easier to be open and honest with people over the more traditional 'dating' sites. Try telling a woman on tinder you're after NSA and see how far it goes. When I split from my ex, I used Tinder and met quite a few guys from there for NSA sex before I'd even heard about Fab. I've no doubt there are women using it for that, however my and my friends experience is that the VAST majority of women that we chatted to are looking for more than that. I didn't know what to expect from the site. I just clicked yes on the men I thought looked nice but never expected them to click yes to me and to message me. It was a confidence booster especially for someone of my age who isn't slim and gorgeous "But apparently you are not shy  | |||
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"Believe it or not there are actually some single women on here and it is possible to meet them and have some fun along the way. Personally I find this place a lot easier to be open and honest with people over the more traditional 'dating' sites. Try telling a woman on tinder you're after NSA and see how far it goes. When I split from my ex, I used Tinder and met quite a few guys from there for NSA sex before I'd even heard about Fab. I've no doubt there are women using it for that, however my and my friends experience is that the VAST majority of women that we chatted to are looking for more than that. I didn't know what to expect from the site. I just clicked yes on the men I thought looked nice but never expected them to click yes to me and to message me. It was a confidence booster especially for someone of my age who isn't slim and gorgeous
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"Well as a single fem on here the vast majority of the people I meet are single males! I tend to meet 'nice' guys with at least a few brain cells and a good personality! They tend to fall into the following categories: 1) Travel a lot with work/establishing their career so lack of free time makes a relationship difficult! 2) great looking, great body and 'nice' but shit job/no house etc so many women in the real world wouldn't consider them much of a catch - whereas on here they do well because their job etc isn't a factor in meeting! 3) Not long out of a painful relationship and on fab for a break from getting hurt before they're ready to risk dating/getting hurt again! 4) already in a relationship but for their own reasons want 'extra spice' - and would rather take their chances on here and be honest about it than be deceitful in the real world! 5) they have kids/family members with special needs/illnesses etc and need to be around for them! 6) They ARE open to dating too - and they're on fab as well as dating sites! 7) Conversely - the fact that it's harder to get a meet on here makes it more thrilling when you DO get one - and you've more chance of getting quality sex as you can openly see/discuss likes/dislikes etc! If you get on really well you can also see each other again whilst being openly free to see others without having to lie about it! How cool is that?
8) they've more chance in here of 'porn style sex' group activity, kink etc etc!
The above reasons – or a combination of them – are also why many of the single women are on the site too I think!
You missed the one with Mental Health issues ...yes they do exist
Sorry you're right they definitely do - as do women with mental health issues! Xx
I work in the profession and I can spot the signs quite easily...it's frightening x
I Don't work in the profession but agree they can be spotted quite easily - hence I take a little time getting to know people by messaging and have a chat on the phone before a meet is arranged!
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"Believe it or not there are actually some single women on here and it is possible to meet them and have some fun along the way. Personally I find this place a lot easier to be open and honest with people over the more traditional 'dating' sites. Try telling a woman on tinder you're after NSA and see how far it goes. That's because tinder has turned into a dating site.... the last 2 weddings I went to met each other on tinder" Hasn't it always been a dating site? | |||
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"Well as a single fem on here the vast majority of the people I meet are single males! I tend to meet 'nice' guys with at least a few brain cells and a good personality! They tend to fall into the following categories: 1) Travel a lot with work/establishing their career so lack of free time makes a relationship difficult! 2) great looking, great body and 'nice' but shit job/no house etc so many women in the real world wouldn't consider them much of a catch - whereas on here they do well because their job etc isn't a factor in meeting! 3) Not long out of a painful relationship and on fab for a break from getting hurt before they're ready to risk dating/getting hurt again! 4) already in a relationship but for their own reasons want 'extra spice' - and would rather take their chances on here and be honest about it than be deceitful in the real world! 5) they have kids/family members with special needs/illnesses etc and need to be around for them! 6) They ARE open to dating too - and they're on fab as well as dating sites! 7) Conversely - the fact that it's harder to get a meet on here makes it more thrilling when you DO get one - and you've more chance of getting quality sex as you can openly see/discuss likes/dislikes etc! If you get on really well you can also see each other again whilst being openly free to see others without having to lie about it! How cool is that?
8) they've more chance in here of 'porn style sex' group activity, kink etc etc!
The above reasons – or a combination of them – are also why many of the single women are on the site too I think!
You missed the one with Mental Health issues ...yes they do exist
Sorry you're right they definitely do - as do women with mental health issues! Xx
I work in the profession and I can spot the signs quite easily...it's frightening x
I Don't work in the profession but agree they can be spotted quite easily - hence I take a little time getting to know people by messaging and have a chat on the phone before a meet is arranged!
So far it's worked well!
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"Believe it or not there are actually some single women on here and it is possible to meet them and have some fun along the way. Personally I find this place a lot easier to be open and honest with people over the more traditional 'dating' sites. Try telling a woman on tinder you're after NSA and see how far it goes. When I split from my ex, I used Tinder and met quite a few guys from there for NSA sex before I'd even heard about Fab. So deviating slightly, but as a single lady looking for NSA what do you find the differences are in your experiences of Fab versus Tinder?" This question wasn't intended for me but seeing as I'm on both, I think I can answer it. I do well on both but probably better on Tinder. But with Tinder there tends to be more of an assumption you're after a relationship and it's a bit more 'vanilla' I guess? Men are quite often surprised when you actually just want a fuck. | |||
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"Believe it or not there are actually some single women on here and it is possible to meet them and have some fun along the way. Personally I find this place a lot easier to be open and honest with people over the more traditional 'dating' sites. Try telling a woman on tinder you're after NSA and see how far it goes. That's because tinder has turned into a dating site.... the last 2 weddings I went to met each other on tinder Hasn't it always been a dating site? No not at all , it used to be for strictly casual sex... kinda like what grinder was for gay men. " | |||
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"I'm hear because I like having casual sex with naughty ladies, it's not really any easier to get it here than some other sites but every one here is open about what they want. On other sites if you say I just want sex then your likely not to get very far. On fab that's the entire point of the place. " Yeah a lot of guys have said that. It probably does make a difference knowing your potential sex partner is on more or less the same hymn sheet and less likely to make demands of exclusivity. | |||
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"I'm hear because I like having casual sex with naughty ladies, it's not really any easier to get it here than some other sites but every one here is open about what they want. On other sites if you say I just want sex then your likely not to get very far. On fab that's the entire point of the place. " What?  I'm on here to find a husband | |||
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"Believe it or not there are actually some single women on here and it is possible to meet them and have some fun along the way. Personally I find this place a lot easier to be open and honest with people over the more traditional 'dating' sites. Try telling a woman on tinder you're after NSA and see how far it goes. When I split from my ex, I used Tinder and met quite a few guys from there for NSA sex before I'd even heard about Fab. So deviating slightly, but as a single lady looking for NSA what do you find the differences are in your experiences of Fab versus Tinder? This question wasn't intended for me but seeing as I'm on both, I think I can answer it. I do well on both but probably better on Tinder. But with Tinder there tends to be more of an assumption you're after a relationship and it's a bit more 'vanilla' I guess? Men are quite often surprised when you actually just want a fuck." I would imagine that a lady asking for NSA on Tinder would be a pleasant surprise for many men, but because women wanting NSA on Tinser is rarer, I was wondering if there is less pressure for sex, thus giving women time to make up their mind. NSA yes, but maybe less demand for 'meet, fuck, go'? | |||
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"I would imagine that a lady asking for NSA on Tinder would be a pleasant surprise for many men, but because women wanting NSA on Tinser is rarer, I was wondering if there is less pressure for sex, thus giving women time to make up their mind. NSA yes, but maybe less demand for 'meet, fuck, go'? Less demand? Yes, because I think some men have come to think it won't happen and they need to date me in order for that to occur. I meant men being less demanding for instant sex. If I were single I would prefer that - men putting in a bit more time an effort before having sex. It would still be NSA though. Yes, I understood that and that's what I was answering rather poorly! Apologies. They tend to be less demanding in my experience. " So are there advantages of Fab for a single woman? | |||
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"I would imagine that a lady asking for NSA on Tinder would be a pleasant surprise for many men, but because women wanting NSA on Tinser is rarer, I was wondering if there is less pressure for sex, thus giving women time to make up their mind. NSA yes, but maybe less demand for 'meet, fuck, go'? Less demand? Yes, because I think some men have come to think it won't happen and they need to date me in order for that to occur. I meant men being less demanding for instant sex. If I were single I would prefer that - men putting in a bit more time an effort before having sex. It would still be NSA though. Yes, I understood that and that's what I was answering rather poorly! Apologies. They tend to be less demanding in my experience. So are there advantages of Fab for a single woman? " For me - yes absolutely!
Because I'm not trying to 'lure them into a relationship ' I get to meet some guys who are frankly hot as fuck who I'd never get to date in the real world! (So do other women on here - but they'll rarely admit it!)
Because I'm not looking for exclusivity I can choose different partners for different wants/needs - and so can they!
I can discuss other hotties on fab with them (how cool is that?)
I can be more adventurous sexually without scaring them half to death!
I can see them several times - with other partners in between - because we've both agreed that's ok!
I can meet couples occasionally for mff
There's a great social scene on fab - it's (ironically in a way) far easier to make like-minded friends and socialise on here than it is on any dating site! Dating sites I find rather dull in comparison to fab and rarely stay long!
But yes - to destroy a myth - I get a lot of interest on 'real' dating sites too!
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"I would imagine that a lady asking for NSA on Tinder would be a pleasant surprise for many men, but because women wanting NSA on Tinser is rarer, I was wondering if there is less pressure for sex, thus giving women time to make up their mind. NSA yes, but maybe less demand for 'meet, fuck, go'? Less demand? Yes, because I think some men have come to think it won't happen and they need to date me in order for that to occur. I meant men being less demanding for instant sex. If I were single I would prefer that - men putting in a bit more time an effort before having sex. It would still be NSA though. Yes, I understood that and that's what I was answering rather poorly! Apologies. They tend to be less demanding in my experience. So are there advantages of Fab for a single woman? For me - yes absolutely!
Because I'm not trying to 'lure them into a relationship ' I get to meet some guys who are frankly hot as fuck who I'd never get to date in the real world! (So do other women on here - but they'll rarely admit it!)
Because I'm not looking for exclusivity I can choose different partners for different wants/needs - and so can they!
I can discuss other hotties on fab with them (how cool is that?)
I can be more adventurous sexually without scaring them half to death!
I can see them several times - with other partners in between - because we've both agreed that's ok!
I can meet couples occasionally for mff
There's a great social scene on fab - it's (ironically in a way) far easier to make like-minded friends and socialise on here than it is on any dating site! Dating sites I find rather dull in comparison to fab and rarely stay long!
But yes - to destroy a myth - I get a lot of interest on 'real' dating sites too!
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"I would imagine that a lady asking for NSA on Tinder would be a pleasant surprise for many men, but because women wanting NSA on Tinser is rarer, I was wondering if there is less pressure for sex, thus giving women time to make up their mind. NSA yes, but maybe less demand for 'meet, fuck, go'? Less demand? Yes, because I think some men have come to think it won't happen and they need to date me in order for that to occur. I meant men being less demanding for instant sex. If I were single I would prefer that - men putting in a bit more time an effort before having sex. It would still be NSA though. Yes, I understood that and that's what I was answering rather poorly! Apologies. They tend to be less demanding in my experience. So are there advantages of Fab for a single woman? For me - yes absolutely!
Because I'm not trying to 'lure them into a relationship ' I get to meet some guys who are frankly hot as fuck who I'd never get to date in the real world! (So do other women on here - but they'll rarely admit it!)
Because I'm not looking for exclusivity I can choose different partners for different wants/needs - and so can they!
I can discuss other hotties on fab with them (how cool is that?)
I can be more adventurous sexually without scaring them half to death!
I can see them several times - with other partners in between - because we've both agreed that's ok!
I can meet couples occasionally for mff
There's a great social scene on fab - it's (ironically in a way) far easier to make like-minded friends and socialise on here than it is on any dating site! Dating sites I find rather dull in comparison to fab and rarely stay long!
But yes - to destroy a myth - I get a lot of interest on 'real' dating sites too!
It's exactly the same for single guys when they conduct themselves well "Absolutely! I think you and I may have chatted on out our old profiles! | |||
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"I would imagine that a lady asking for NSA on Tinder would be a pleasant surprise for many men, but because women wanting NSA on Tinser is rarer, I was wondering if there is less pressure for sex, thus giving women time to make up their mind. NSA yes, but maybe less demand for 'meet, fuck, go'? Less demand? Yes, because I think some men have come to think it won't happen and they need to date me in order for that to occur. I meant men being less demanding for instant sex. If I were single I would prefer that - men putting in a bit more time an effort before having sex. It would still be NSA though. Yes, I understood that and that's what I was answering rather poorly! Apologies. They tend to be less demanding in my experience. So are there advantages of Fab for a single woman? For me - yes absolutely!
Because I'm not trying to 'lure them into a relationship ' I get to meet some guys who are frankly hot as fuck who I'd never get to date in the real world! (So do other women on here - but they'll rarely admit it!)
Because I'm not looking for exclusivity I can choose different partners for different wants/needs - and so can they!
I can discuss other hotties on fab with them (how cool is that?)
I can be more adventurous sexually without scaring them half to death!
I can see them several times - with other partners in between - because we've both agreed that's ok!
I can meet couples occasionally for mff
There's a great social scene on fab - it's (ironically in a way) far easier to make like-minded friends and socialise on here than it is on any dating site! Dating sites I find rather dull in comparison to fab and rarely stay long!
But yes - to destroy a myth - I get a lot of interest on 'real' dating sites too!
"Yes that's a lot how I feel about Fab compared to my experiences as a single woman on dating sites 15 or so years ago. I like that I can discuss my sex life with playmates without jealousy and that they are comfortable to tell me about the fun they've been having. I like sharing partners and them sharing me. | |||
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"I would imagine that a lady asking for NSA on Tinder would be a pleasant surprise for many men, but because women wanting NSA on Tinser is rarer, I was wondering if there is less pressure for sex, thus giving women time to make up their mind. NSA yes, but maybe less demand for 'meet, fuck, go'? Less demand? Yes, because I think some men have come to think it won't happen and they need to date me in order for that to occur. I meant men being less demanding for instant sex. If I were single I would prefer that - men putting in a bit more time an effort before having sex. It would still be NSA though. Yes, I understood that and that's what I was answering rather poorly! Apologies. They tend to be less demanding in my experience. So are there advantages of Fab for a single woman? For me - yes absolutely!
Because I'm not trying to 'lure them into a relationship ' I get to meet some guys who are frankly hot as fuck who I'd never get to date in the real world! (So do other women on here - but they'll rarely admit it!)
Because I'm not looking for exclusivity I can choose different partners for different wants/needs - and so can they!
I can discuss other hotties on fab with them (how cool is that?)
I can be more adventurous sexually without scaring them half to death!
I can see them several times - with other partners in between - because we've both agreed that's ok!
I can meet couples occasionally for mff
There's a great social scene on fab - it's (ironically in a way) far easier to make like-minded friends and socialise on here than it is on any dating site! Dating sites I find rather dull in comparison to fab and rarely stay long!
But yes - to destroy a myth - I get a lot of interest on 'real' dating sites too!
It's exactly the same for single guys when they conduct themselves well
Absolutely! I think you and I may have chatted on out our old profiles! "Well if I may I'll message you again.. but what you say is absolutely true for guys too | |||
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"Purely because im young and want to have an adventurous sex life and try everything before settling down, and it also opens your eyes a fair bit in what women want rather than believing the stereotypical "massive hung blokes", people are into different things. Eye opener ?? Interestingly enough. I have found this site to prove just about every "toxic", shallow stereotype there was about casual sex. Looks matter, penis size matters, people are very shallow. Even in the social side. The better you look, the better you will do. Single women have the most choice in many real world swinging environments because they're "unicorns". So as a goodlooking hung guy with a good body, why have do you had so many problems with Fab? You are presumably exactly the man shallow people want. Unless of course you don't want someone who's shallow? But to attract the nicer people who are not fussed about your physical attributes would require a different approach. At the end of the day, there will always be a certain amount of shallowness from everybody (male or female) when looking for NSA sex, because if it's just NSA and not a relationship, then the physical will carry a greater level of importance. Those like myself, who seek a more friendship style NSA arrangement will take personality into account a lot more. If it's just 'fuck and go' in a club then I'm less concerned about personality and it will be a lot more about the physical. I have not had so many problems with Fab. Who even says that my dissatisfaction has to do with my own experiences on here? I dont really have to be constantly positive about this place. I think you need to accept people will _iew things differently whether you like that or not. Well it's a bit unusual to be dissatisfied with something due to someone else's experiences. The guys that are out there playing regularly and having a good time, are unlikely to be dissatisfied with Fab because of the experience that someone else has. Your complaints are certainly worded in a way that suggests they are your experiences." You assume, once again, that everyone's dissatisfaction will be the same and that dissatisfaction will be an inability to get meets. People need to stop thinking that anyone who doesnt like aspects of this site cant get meets, in many cases its the things people expect from you when asking for meets that can turn one off. The sheer amount of men on this site means too many people overvalue getting meets. I, personally, have absolutely no desire to meet with someone who will not respect my lack of interest in travelling great distances or who wants me to meet them to fuck at a moments notice. The problem here is, as someone mentioned, it becomes a dangled carrot. The ratios mean men have to work harder for sex than on place like Tinder/POF and thus they compromise their standards/dignity just in order to get these meets. THAT is the problem I have, because these same women/couples then expect such desperation from anyone. I mention this explicitly in my profile. | |||
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"I'm hear because I like having casual sex with naughty ladies, it's not really any easier to get it here than some other sites but every one here is open about what they want. On other sites if you say I just want sex then your likely not to get very far. On fab that's the entire point of the place. " TBH this is not even true. I have no idea why people become so obsessed with dishonesty on dating sites/apps/real life. I actually think the attitude is what contributes to much of the coarseness, lack of patience and respect that many on here find among single males. The last person I met on one of these dating sites came right over and we had sex. I told her explicitly that I didnt want anything serious and she was happy to oblige. I have never understood the concept of lying to get sex, absolutely no need for it. | |||
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"Purely because im young and want to have an adventurous sex life and try everything before settling down, and it also opens your eyes a fair bit in what women want rather than believing the stereotypical "massive hung blokes", people are into different things. Eye opener ?? Interestingly enough. I have found this site to prove just about every "toxic", shallow stereotype there was about casual sex. Looks matter, penis size matters, people are very shallow. Even in the social side. The better you look, the better you will do. Single women have the most choice in many real world swinging environments because they're "unicorns". So as a goodlooking hung guy with a good body, why have do you had so many problems with Fab? You are presumably exactly the man shallow people want. Unless of course you don't want someone who's shallow? But to attract the nicer people who are not fussed about your physical attributes would require a different approach. At the end of the day, there will always be a certain amount of shallowness from everybody (male or female) when looking for NSA sex, because if it's just NSA and not a relationship, then the physical will carry a greater level of importance. Those like myself, who seek a more friendship style NSA arrangement will take personality into account a lot more. If it's just 'fuck and go' in a club then I'm less concerned about personality and it will be a lot more about the physical. I have not had so many problems with Fab. Who even says that my dissatisfaction has to do with my own experiences on here? I dont really have to be constantly positive about this place. I think you need to accept people will _iew things differently whether you like that or not. Well it's a bit unusual to be dissatisfied with something due to someone else's experiences. The guys that are out there playing regularly and having a good time, are unlikely to be dissatisfied with Fab because of the experience that someone else has. Your complaints are certainly worded in a way that suggests they are your experiences. You assume, once again, that everyone's dissatisfaction will be the same and that dissatisfaction will be an inability to get meets. People need to stop thinking that anyone who doesnt like aspects of this site cant get meets, in many cases its the things people expect from you when asking for meets that can turn one off. The sheer amount of men on this site means too many people overvalue getting meets. I, personally, have absolutely no desire to meet with someone who will not respect my lack of interest in travelling great distances or who wants me to meet them to fuck at a moments notice. The problem here is, as someone mentioned, it becomes a dangled carrot. The ratios mean men have to work harder for sex than on place like Tinder/POF and thus they compromise their standards/dignity just in order to get these meets. THAT is the problem I have, because these same women/couples then expect such desperation from anyone. I mention this explicitly in my profile. " Fair enough. But it is unusual for men who are out there having fun on a regular basis to complain to the extent that you do. I've followed a number of your posts with interest, and I don't think I've ever seen a post where you spoke favourably about your experience on Fab. If you've had some good meets, it's a shame that you don't have a more balance _iew. Or maybe you do, but you're not expressing that. People make assumptions on the information that's given. If someone complains that Fab is full of timewasters, but make no reference to a successful meet, one can be forgiven for assuming that the individual's experience of Fab is that their meets nearly always turn out to be to timewasters. Whereas if someone talks possitively about the fun they've had from Fab meets, then they are probably getting fun. | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs" It's a question without a short answer so you might want to put the kettle on...
Fab (and doubtless other sites like it too, though I've not tried any others) offers a lot of different things that the "real world" doesn't. As you have aluded to there is obviously the possibility of group fun. I've indulged in this a few times in the real world too, but on les occasions.
But this forms only a small part of what fab is about.
You are right in stating that the easiest way to get sex is in the real world. I find that you get dozens of offers just by walking into a busy bar in a town or city centre on a weekend. But this clearly has it's downfalls;
1) Sticking with the bar scenario, a lot of the women are pissed as a newt to start with. Even those that aren't may well be when you actually come to have sex with them. Nothing against d*unken sex, I've had a fair few dalliances whilst we were both steaming and some have been fun. But more of an intimate, sizzling encounter is always had when both parties are fully aware of the effect they are having on each other.
2) You often know precious little about the person you're having sex with, their hangups, what to avoid, etc. Sometimes this can be hard for a lady to discuss in such a setting beforehand too, whereas it can all be ironed out beforehand on fab so there are less complications.
3) Women who you have sex with in the real world can often build sex up to be the forerunner to a relationship, which can make for awkwardness when they disclose this. Or even more if they don't. It is a fact that more women are looking for a relationship than men (kind of like the fab ratio in reverse) so blokes aren't as often overly bothered, knowing full well they can get a relationship with a suitable lady fairly easily, much the same as a lot of women approach sex, unless they are particularly horny for whatever reason.
4) You often don't know beforehand in real life if someone has the same sexual interests, turn ons and in some cases fetishes as you. Again on fab all this can be discussed beforehand so you get that tingle of excitement magnified before you hook up and the sex is usually better as a result.
5) A lady may be less experienced or not as accomplished in bed in the real world, you have no way of knowing. Whereas on fab you do tend to get a fair idea through their profile, veris, or even just the fact that they're actively taking the plunge on here which shows some degree of adventure.
In a way I do think it quite amusing that a site set up for swinging or "sex with strangers" actually makes sure your playmates are often less of a stranger than if you encountered them in the real world!
In answer to the casual dating sites option it's not something I'd try. I'm fully aware that some men do and it's easy to see why, to flip the ratio hugely in their favour. There are also many women who use fab to try and find a life-partner for the same reason; some are fed up of the ratios on dating sites meaning they don't get a look in with the kind of men they find attractive in that regard. But I wouldn't use a dating site to seek sex, purely because my conscience would be pricked by deception or giving false hope to a lady that was looking for something different to myself. Even if I had developed into a man that for want of a better word didn't give a shit about such things, logic tells me that there would probably be far more hassle than I would like dealing with the consequences. | |||
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"Purely because im young and want to have an adventurous sex life and try everything before settling down, and it also opens your eyes a fair bit in what women want rather than believing the stereotypical "massive hung blokes", people are into different things. Eye opener ?? Interestingly enough. I have found this site to prove just about every "toxic", shallow stereotype there was about casual sex. Looks matter, penis size matters, people are very shallow. Even in the social side. The better you look, the better you will do. Single women have the most choice in many real world swinging environments because they're "unicorns". So as a goodlooking hung guy with a good body, why have do you had so many problems with Fab? You are presumably exactly the man shallow people want. Unless of course you don't want someone who's shallow? But to attract the nicer people who are not fussed about your physical attributes would require a different approach. At the end of the day, there will always be a certain amount of shallowness from everybody (male or female) when looking for NSA sex, because if it's just NSA and not a relationship, then the physical will carry a greater level of importance. Those like myself, who seek a more friendship style NSA arrangement will take personality into account a lot more. If it's just 'fuck and go' in a club then I'm less concerned about personality and it will be a lot more about the physical. I have not had so many problems with Fab. Who even says that my dissatisfaction has to do with my own experiences on here? I dont really have to be constantly positive about this place. I think you need to accept people will _iew things differently whether you like that or not. Well it's a bit unusual to be dissatisfied with something due to someone else's experiences. The guys that are out there playing regularly and having a good time, are unlikely to be dissatisfied with Fab because of the experience that someone else has. Your complaints are certainly worded in a way that suggests they are your experiences. You assume, once again, that everyone's dissatisfaction will be the same and that dissatisfaction will be an inability to get meets. People need to stop thinking that anyone who doesnt like aspects of this site cant get meets, in many cases its the things people expect from you when asking for meets that can turn one off. The sheer amount of men on this site means too many people overvalue getting meets. I, personally, have absolutely no desire to meet with someone who will not respect my lack of interest in travelling great distances or who wants me to meet them to fuck at a moments notice. The problem here is, as someone mentioned, it becomes a dangled carrot. The ratios mean men have to work harder for sex than on place like Tinder/POF and thus they compromise their standards/dignity just in order to get these meets. THAT is the problem I have, because these same women/couples then expect such desperation from anyone. I mention this explicitly in my profile. Fair enough. But it is unusual for men who are out there having fun on a regular basis to complain to the extent that you do. I've followed a number of your posts with interest, and I don't think I've ever seen a post where you spoke favourably about your experience on Fab. If you've had some good meets, it's a shame that you don't have a more balance _iew. Or maybe you do, but you're not expressing that. People make assumptions on the information that's given. If someone complains that Fab is full of timewasters, but make no reference to a successful meet, one can be forgiven for assuming that the individual's experience of Fab is that their meets nearly always turn out to be to timewasters. Whereas if someone talks possitively about the fun they've had from Fab meets, then they are probably getting fun. " I will let in on a little secret. Once you realize your value in a "sexual marketplace" you start to forget about the positive experiences. Its the law of diminishing returns. And, as I expect is rather common, I have more messages in my inbox that go nowhere than people who are dead serious. I think plenty of those on the forums are just happy to get meets at all. I have never been like that. You seem to need to bbelieve that everyone who expresses dissatisfaction with this site MUST be someone who cant get meets. Its an incredibly square way of thinking. I ran into someone in a meet who was on Fab who was very much in demand yet had the same complaints I did. Its just that he did not come on the forums to express them. Stop thinking about this site from the _iew of the forums. The perspective on here is very skewed. Its where most of the socialites/those who enjoy the conversation and the guys who lack patience and vent about meets dominate the discussion. | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs It's a question without a short answer so you might want to put the kettle on...
Fab (and doubtless other sites like it too, though I've not tried any others) offers a lot of different things that the "real world" doesn't. As you have aluded to there is obviously the possibility of group fun. I've indulged in this a few times in the real world too, but on les occasions.
But this forms only a small part of what fab is about.
You are right in stating that the easiest way to get sex is in the real world. I find that you get dozens of offers just by walking into a busy bar in a town or city centre on a weekend. But this clearly has it's downfalls;
1) Sticking with the bar scenario, a lot of the women are pissed as a newt to start with. Even those that aren't may well be when you actually come to have sex with them. Nothing against d*unken sex, I've had a fair few dalliances whilst we were both steaming and some have been fun. But more of an intimate, sizzling encounter is always had when both parties are fully aware of the effect they are having on each other.
2) You often know precious little about the person you're having sex with, their hangups, what to avoid, etc. Sometimes this can be hard for a lady to discuss in such a setting beforehand too, whereas it can all be ironed out beforehand on fab so there are less complications.
3) Women who you have sex with in the real world can often build sex up to be the forerunner to a relationship, which can make for awkwardness when they disclose this. Or even more if they don't. It is a fact that more women are looking for a relationship than men (kind of like the fab ratio in reverse) so blokes aren't as often overly bothered, knowing full well they can get a relationship with a suitable lady fairly easily, much the same as a lot of women approach sex, unless they are particularly horny for whatever reason.
4) You often don't know beforehand in real life if someone has the same sexual interests, turn ons and in some cases fetishes as you. Again on fab all this can be discussed beforehand so you get that tingle of excitement magnified before you hook up and the sex is usually better as a result.
5) A lady may be less experienced or not as accomplished in bed in the real world, you have no way of knowing. Whereas on fab you do tend to get a fair idea through their profile, veris, or even just the fact that they're actively taking the plunge on here which shows some degree of adventure.
In a way I do think it quite amusing that a site set up for swinging or "sex with strangers" actually makes sure your playmates are often less of a stranger than if you encountered them in the real world!
In answer to the casual dating sites option it's not something I'd try. I'm fully aware that some men do and it's easy to see why, to flip the ratio hugely in their favour. There are also many women who use fab to try and find a life-partner for the same reason; some are fed up of the ratios on dating sites meaning they don't get a look in with the kind of men they find attractive in that regard. But I wouldn't use a dating site to seek sex, purely because my conscience would be pricked by deception or giving false hope to a lady that was looking for something different to myself. Even if I had developed into a man that for want of a better word didn't give a shit about such things, logic tells me that there would probably be far more hassle than I would like dealing with the consequences."Good post, interesting perspective. | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs It's a question without a short answer so you might want to put the kettle on...
Fab (and doubtless other sites like it too, though I've not tried any others) offers a lot of different things that the "real world" doesn't. As you have aluded to there is obviously the possibility of group fun. I've indulged in this a few times in the real world too, but on les occasions.
But this forms only a small part of what fab is about.
You are right in stating that the easiest way to get sex is in the real world. I find that you get dozens of offers just by walking into a busy bar in a town or city centre on a weekend. But this clearly has it's downfalls;
1) Sticking with the bar scenario, a lot of the women are pissed as a newt to start with. Even those that aren't may well be when you actually come to have sex with them. Nothing against d*unken sex, I've had a fair few dalliances whilst we were both steaming and some have been fun. But more of an intimate, sizzling encounter is always had when both parties are fully aware of the effect they are having on each other.
2) You often know precious little about the person you're having sex with, their hangups, what to avoid, etc. Sometimes this can be hard for a lady to discuss in such a setting beforehand too, whereas it can all be ironed out beforehand on fab so there are less complications.
3) Women who you have sex with in the real world can often build sex up to be the forerunner to a relationship, which can make for awkwardness when they disclose this. Or even more if they don't. It is a fact that more women are looking for a relationship than men (kind of like the fab ratio in reverse) so blokes aren't as often overly bothered, knowing full well they can get a relationship with a suitable lady fairly easily, much the same as a lot of women approach sex, unless they are particularly horny for whatever reason.
4) You often don't know beforehand in real life if someone has the same sexual interests, turn ons and in some cases fetishes as you. Again on fab all this can be discussed beforehand so you get that tingle of excitement magnified before you hook up and the sex is usually better as a result.
5) A lady may be less experienced or not as accomplished in bed in the real world, you have no way of knowing. Whereas on fab you do tend to get a fair idea through their profile, veris, or even just the fact that they're actively taking the plunge on here which shows some degree of adventure.
In a way I do think it quite amusing that a site set up for swinging or "sex with strangers" actually makes sure your playmates are often less of a stranger than if you encountered them in the real world!
In answer to the casual dating sites option it's not something I'd try. I'm fully aware that some men do and it's easy to see why, to flip the ratio hugely in their favour. There are also many women who use fab to try and find a life-partner for the same reason; some are fed up of the ratios on dating sites meaning they don't get a look in with the kind of men they find attractive in that regard. But I wouldn't use a dating site to seek sex, purely because my conscience would be pricked by deception or giving false hope to a lady that was looking for something different to myself. Even if I had developed into a man that for want of a better word didn't give a shit about such things, logic tells me that there would probably be far more hassle than I would like dealing with the consequences."Great answer - and a fair few similarities to mine! | |||
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"In a way I do think it quite amusing that a site set up for swinging or "sex with strangers" actually makes sure your playmates are often less of a stranger than if you encountered them in the real world! In answer to the casual dating sites option it's not something I'd try. I'm fully aware that some men do and it's easy to see why, to flip the ratio hugely in their favour. There are also many women who use fab to try and find a life-partner for the same reason; some are fed up of the ratios on dating sites meaning they don't get a look in with the kind of men they find attractive in that regard. But I wouldn't use a dating site to seek sex, purely because my conscience would be pricked by deception or giving false hope to a lady that was looking for something different to myself. Even if I had developed into a man that for want of a better word didn't give a shit about such things, logic tells me that there would probably be far more hassle than I would like dealing with the consequences." Thank you for sharing your _iews - one of the best, balanced and insightful posts I've read in a long time. | |||
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"I'm hear because I like having casual sex with naughty ladies, it's not really any easier to get it here than some other sites but every one here is open about what they want. On other sites if you say I just want sex then your likely not to get very far. On fab that's the entire point of the place. TBH this is not even true. I have no idea why people become so obsessed with dishonesty on dating sites/apps/real life. I actually think the attitude is what contributes to much of the coarseness, lack of patience and respect that many on here find among single males. The last person I met on one of these dating sites came right over and we had sex. I told her explicitly that I didnt want anything serious and she was happy to oblige. I have never understood the concept of lying to get sex, absolutely no need for it." I have met women on other sites with the mutual agreement that it was casual. No ones saying that's not possible. But the point of fab is for no strings hook ups | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs It's a question without a short answer so you might want to put the kettle on...
Fab (and doubtless other sites like it too, though I've not tried any others) offers a lot of different things that the "real world" doesn't. As you have aluded to there is obviously the possibility of group fun. I've indulged in this a few times in the real world too, but on les occasions.
But this forms only a small part of what fab is about.
You are right in stating that the easiest way to get sex is in the real world. I find that you get dozens of offers just by walking into a busy bar in a town or city centre on a weekend. But this clearly has it's downfalls;
1) Sticking with the bar scenario, a lot of the women are pissed as a newt to start with. Even those that aren't may well be when you actually come to have sex with them. Nothing against d*unken sex, I've had a fair few dalliances whilst we were both steaming and some have been fun. But more of an intimate, sizzling encounter is always had when both parties are fully aware of the effect they are having on each other.
2) You often know precious little about the person you're having sex with, their hangups, what to avoid, etc. Sometimes this can be hard for a lady to discuss in such a setting beforehand too, whereas it can all be ironed out beforehand on fab so there are less complications.
3) Women who you have sex with in the real world can often build sex up to be the forerunner to a relationship, which can make for awkwardness when they disclose this. Or even more if they don't. It is a fact that more women are looking for a relationship than men (kind of like the fab ratio in reverse) so blokes aren't as often overly bothered, knowing full well they can get a relationship with a suitable lady fairly easily, much the same as a lot of women approach sex, unless they are particularly horny for whatever reason.
4) You often don't know beforehand in real life if someone has the same sexual interests, turn ons and in some cases fetishes as you. Again on fab all this can be discussed beforehand so you get that tingle of excitement magnified before you hook up and the sex is usually better as a result.
5) A lady may be less experienced or not as accomplished in bed in the real world, you have no way of knowing. Whereas on fab you do tend to get a fair idea through their profile, veris, or even just the fact that they're actively taking the plunge on here which shows some degree of adventure.
In a way I do think it quite amusing that a site set up for swinging or "sex with strangers" actually makes sure your playmates are often less of a stranger than if you encountered them in the real world!
In answer to the casual dating sites option it's not something I'd try. I'm fully aware that some men do and it's easy to see why, to flip the ratio hugely in their favour. There are also many women who use fab to try and find a life-partner for the same reason; some are fed up of the ratios on dating sites meaning they don't get a look in with the kind of men they find attractive in that regard. But I wouldn't use a dating site to seek sex, purely because my conscience would be pricked by deception or giving false hope to a lady that was looking for something different to myself. Even if I had developed into a man that for want of a better word didn't give a shit about such things, logic tells me that there would probably be far more hassle than I would like dealing with the consequences."Thank you for taking the time to explain so thoroughly. Great response | |||
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"Purely because im young and want to have an adventurous sex life and try everything before settling down, and it also opens your eyes a fair bit in what women want rather than believing the stereotypical "massive hung blokes", people are into different things. Eye opener ?? Interestingly enough. I have found this site to prove just about every "toxic", shallow stereotype there was about casual sex. Looks matter, penis size matters, people are very shallow. Even in the social side. The better you look, the better you will do. Single women have the most choice in many real world swinging environments because they're "unicorns". So as a goodlooking hung guy with a good body, why have do you had so many problems with Fab? You are presumably exactly the man shallow people want. Unless of course you don't want someone who's shallow? But to attract the nicer people who are not fussed about your physical attributes would require a different approach. At the end of the day, there will always be a certain amount of shallowness from everybody (male or female) when looking for NSA sex, because if it's just NSA and not a relationship, then the physical will carry a greater level of importance. Those like myself, who seek a more friendship style NSA arrangement will take personality into account a lot more. If it's just 'fuck and go' in a club then I'm less concerned about personality and it will be a lot more about the physical. I have not had so many problems with Fab. Who even says that my dissatisfaction has to do with my own experiences on here? I dont really have to be constantly positive about this place. I think you need to accept people will _iew things differently whether you like that or not. Well it's a bit unusual to be dissatisfied with something due to someone else's experiences. The guys that are out there playing regularly and having a good time, are unlikely to be dissatisfied with Fab because of the experience that someone else has. Your complaints are certainly worded in a way that suggests they are your experiences. You assume, once again, that everyone's dissatisfaction will be the same and that dissatisfaction will be an inability to get meets. People need to stop thinking that anyone who doesnt like aspects of this site cant get meets, in many cases its the things people expect from you when asking for meets that can turn one off. The sheer amount of men on this site means too many people overvalue getting meets. I, personally, have absolutely no desire to meet with someone who will not respect my lack of interest in travelling great distances or who wants me to meet them to fuck at a moments notice. The problem here is, as someone mentioned, it becomes a dangled carrot. The ratios mean men have to work harder for sex than on place like Tinder/POF and thus they compromise their standards/dignity just in order to get these meets. THAT is the problem I have, because these same women/couples then expect such desperation from anyone. I mention this explicitly in my profile. Fair enough. But it is unusual for men who are out there having fun on a regular basis to complain to the extent that you do. I've followed a number of your posts with interest, and I don't think I've ever seen a post where you spoke favourably about your experience on Fab. If you've had some good meets, it's a shame that you don't have a more balance _iew. Or maybe you do, but you're not expressing that. People make assumptions on the information that's given. If someone complains that Fab is full of timewasters, but make no reference to a successful meet, one can be forgiven for assuming that the individual's experience of Fab is that their meets nearly always turn out to be to timewasters. Whereas if someone talks possitively about the fun they've had from Fab meets, then they are probably getting fun. I will let in on a little secret. Once you realize your value in a "sexual marketplace" you start to forget about the positive experiences. Its the law of diminishing returns. And, as I expect is rather common, I have more messages in my inbox that go nowhere than people who are dead serious. I think plenty of those on the forums are just happy to get meets at all. I have never been like that. You seem to need to bbelieve that everyone who expresses dissatisfaction with this site MUST be someone who cant get meets. Its an incredibly square way of thinking. I ran into someone in a meet who was on Fab who was very much in demand yet had the same complaints I did. Its just that he did not come on the forums to express them. Stop thinking about this site from the _iew of the forums. The perspective on here is very skewed. Its where most of the socialites/those who enjoy the conversation and the guys who lack patience and vent about meets dominate the discussion." Well I'm sorry to hear that your 'value on the sexual market place' causes you to forget about the positive experiences you've had from your Fab meets (if there have been any). The swing scene is supposed to be fun, and if it gets the point where the good stuff is forgotten, then that's a real shame. There's no point in swinging if it's makes someone feel negative. | |||
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"I use it to keep in touch with the friends I make in clubs and at parties. Over 130 veris in 3yrs (not all play, lots of social ones) suggests that we don't all struggle" Club veris are much easier to obtain though most of mine were or are. You can play with women in clubs who you have messaged on here an got no response I have several times. Arranging private meets off here with attreactive women is another level altogether. | |||
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"You see a profile you like, you message, there is a spark of interest and within less than an hour, you know you have arranged a meet for a few days time. You exchange numbers and from then on You go about your business picking your heels up thinking about what the day/night will bring. The night before arrives, you know you are on and sleep with a smile, wake up, play it cool and text mid morning to make sure. It's on. From then on it's like fight club, your day, no matter what is going to end good. You get home, shower, aftershave, you know you're on the minutes so foot down, usually exceeding speed limits in the outside lane. Text half way there apologising saying you're coming as your foot goes further to the mat. As you play it cool and scour house numbers, the sat nav always has you walk down the street you don't know to a house and a front door, behind which stands someone that will open it as excited as you are and trying and play it as cool as you are. As the night plays out and you find out what each other likes - hard, soft, what their tastes are like, how their touch is. This isn't a pub fuck, you know this is NSA, a pub fuck is loose and impatient. This is exploratory, tasting the air, seeing what people have, enjoying the senses and enjoying the climax of those few days of a guaranteed fuck. As you kiss to leave, whether each of you know you'll meet again, you know you've fucked within an inch of your life - maybe you'll get invited back again, maybe the journey was just too far, maybe you don't want to spoil that one off, either way, you get home 2 am. Waking ripe for work - nobody will know as you're keying in your email replies and going to the loo with semi. Get back home and a few days later, fight club." Just read this again and... "enjoying the senses and enjoying the climax of those few days of a guaranteed fuck", should read more 'enjoying the climax of those few days in anticipation to fuck' (as there are always no like rules). Casual dating blows. | |||
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"I use it to keep in touch with the friends I make in clubs and at parties. Over 130 veris in 3yrs (not all play, lots of social ones) suggests that we don't all struggle Club veris are much easier to obtain though most of mine were or are. You can play with women in clubs who you have messaged on here an got no response I have several times. Arranging private meets off here with attreactive women is another level altogether. " Exactly, that's why I use it just to keep in touch with the friends I make in clubs. Veri rare that I make first contact on here, I do occasionally, but not very often | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs" Too shatter ones self esteem and be told too often to shave and get my hair cut... But apart from that make some naughty friends and get some frolicking done | |||
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"I use it to keep in touch with the friends I make in clubs and at parties. Over 130 veris in 3yrs (not all play, lots of social ones) suggests that we don't all struggle Club veris are much easier to obtain though most of mine were or are. You can play with women in clubs who you have messaged on here an got no response I have several times. Arranging private meets off here with attreactive women is another level altogether. Exactly, that's why I use it just to keep in touch with the friends I make in clubs. Veri rare that I make first contact on here, I do occasionally, but not very often " Yeah it's the best route as a single guy to be successful on here if you aren't like a male model, get recommended by friends etc it's networking and who you know at times. It can just be expensive. If you wanna be successful though you have to put time and effort in that's where a lot of these men moan because they don't understand the scene. | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs" My head is ruled by my cock so I have made more than a few of the new single guy errors. Such as thinking just because I want it so much, doesn't mean it'll just come to me without any effort. Thinking I knew everything only to find I'm starting out all over again etc. But I've met a few nice people now, only had one shocker.. I go through droughts but the forum is always here to have a laugh on, with kindred spirits. I know what fab is now and how to use it better (famous last words) I'm speaking to more people than ever before. Its frustrating but I love it too much to quit. I'm Jamie and I'm a fabaholic, unless I meet a really nice woman.. Then I get distracted a bit. | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs It's a question without a short answer so you might want to put the kettle on...
Fab (and doubtless other sites like it too, though I've not tried any others) offers a lot of different things that the "real world" doesn't. As you have aluded to there is obviously the possibility of group fun. I've indulged in this a few times in the real world too, but on les occasions.
But this forms only a small part of what fab is about.
You are right in stating that the easiest way to get sex is in the real world. I find that you get dozens of offers just by walking into a busy bar in a town or city centre on a weekend. But this clearly has it's downfalls;
1) Sticking with the bar scenario, a lot of the women are pissed as a newt to start with. Even those that aren't may well be when you actually come to have sex with them. Nothing against d*unken sex, I've had a fair few dalliances whilst we were both steaming and some have been fun. But more of an intimate, sizzling encounter is always had when both parties are fully aware of the effect they are having on each other.
2) You often know precious little about the person you're having sex with, their hangups, what to avoid, etc. Sometimes this can be hard for a lady to discuss in such a setting beforehand too, whereas it can all be ironed out beforehand on fab so there are less complications.
3) Women who you have sex with in the real world can often build sex up to be the forerunner to a relationship, which can make for awkwardness when they disclose this. Or even more if they don't. It is a fact that more women are looking for a relationship than men (kind of like the fab ratio in reverse) so blokes aren't as often overly bothered, knowing full well they can get a relationship with a suitable lady fairly easily, much the same as a lot of women approach sex, unless they are particularly horny for whatever reason.
4) You often don't know beforehand in real life if someone has the same sexual interests, turn ons and in some cases fetishes as you. Again on fab all this can be discussed beforehand so you get that tingle of excitement magnified before you hook up and the sex is usually better as a result.
5) A lady may be less experienced or not as accomplished in bed in the real world, you have no way of knowing. Whereas on fab you do tend to get a fair idea through their profile, veris, or even just the fact that they're actively taking the plunge on here which shows some degree of adventure.
In a way I do think it quite amusing that a site set up for swinging or "sex with strangers" actually makes sure your playmates are often less of a stranger than if you encountered them in the real world!
In answer to the casual dating sites option it's not something I'd try. I'm fully aware that some men do and it's easy to see why, to flip the ratio hugely in their favour. There are also many women who use fab to try and find a life-partner for the same reason; some are fed up of the ratios on dating sites meaning they don't get a look in with the kind of men they find attractive in that regard. But I wouldn't use a dating site to seek sex, purely because my conscience would be pricked by deception or giving false hope to a lady that was looking for something different to myself. Even if I had developed into a man that for want of a better word didn't give a shit about such things, logic tells me that there would probably be far more hassle than I would like dealing with the consequences."Good summary. I got so, so sick of the deception on the dating sites, even though for a while I was only using them for 'brief encounters' anyway. It is as you say about the ratio reversals - my male friends who legitimately use dating sites cannot believe I have not found anyone to my taste, when it never takes them more than a few weeks to come up with a new relationship prospect that ticks all their boxes. Funny thing is I have had deeper and closer relationships and more social interaction on here than I ever had from any dating site, and have made some great friends and lovers. The thought of meeting someone from a dating site for sex without seeing revealing pics, verifications, a frank and open profile and discussion fills me with horror now lol!! | |||
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"I'm hear because I like having casual sex with naughty ladies, it's not really any easier to get it here than some other sites but every one here is open about what they want. On other sites if you say I just want sex then your likely not to get very far. On fab that's the entire point of the place. TBH this is not even true. I have no idea why people become so obsessed with dishonesty on dating sites/apps/real life. I actually think the attitude is what contributes to much of the coarseness, lack of patience and respect that many on here find among single males. The last person I met on one of these dating sites came right over and we had sex. I told her explicitly that I didnt want anything serious and she was happy to oblige. I have never understood the concept of lying to get sex, absolutely no need for it." And yet the vast majority of men on dating sites choose that as their strategy. | |||
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"One of my idle curiosity questions. This one has stemmed from seeing quite a few disgruntled male profiles on the forums this week. But I've been wondering for a while - why, when there are way to many men to realistically go round, do men turn to Fab to get NSA sex. I think I would find the experience that some guys go through quite demoralising. Then many guys say that they find casual dating sites more fruitful for NSA sex, or that it's easier to pick someone up when on a night out. So I'm curious as to what men feel they can get from Fab, that maybe harder to achieve by going down other avenues? Mrs My head is ruled by my cock so I have made more than a few of the new single guy errors. Such as thinking just because I want it so much, doesn't mean it'll just come to me without any effort. Thinking I knew everything only to find I'm starting out all over again etc. But I've met a few nice people now, only had one shocker.. I go through droughts but the forum is always here to have a laugh on, with kindred spirits. I know what fab is now and how to use it better (famous last words) I'm speaking to more people than ever before. Its frustrating but I love it too much to quit. I'm Jamie and I'm a fabaholic, unless I meet a really nice woman.. Then I get distracted a bit. " Like this week for instance, I got speaking with a nice, normal couple.. Now I feel like I've got two new friends, which is important to me, as I'm new to the area. Which means more to me than the blowjob I was ordered to receive after two hours of very interesting conversation. Fab is becoming my social life. | |||
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"I come here for the forum and to perv over people's profiles "I slagged another blokes hot wife last, for three hours, I rule! She rules! He rules! Fab rules! | |||
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