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" " well, some people need to hear this. The same people dont realise what being racist or sexist is, until you point it out. Im not generally an angry person but some things just get my goat. Philostines! X | |||
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" well, some people need to hear this. The same people dont realise what being racist or sexist is, until you point it out. Im not generally an angry person but some things just get my goat. Philostines! X"You're kidding  | |||
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" well, some people need to hear this. The same people dont realise what being racist or sexist is, until you point it out. Im not generally an angry person but some things just get my goat. Philostines! X
You're kidding "no, im bluddi serious. Sexy fun progile you have by the way x | |||
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You're kidding no, im bluddi serious. Sexy fun progile you have by the way x"Well thank you very much   | |||
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"So if you are straight you are bigoted then?
I would suggest that you give your head a shake!"There's a lot of hererophobia these days sadly | |||
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" We dont play with bi men? Blahh blah blahhdy blah.... " Drama queens? Attention whores? Whatever your preference this kind of muti soundbite phrase quoting is getting pretty boring. We (us as a couple) do of course appreciate your right to bang on about some crusade to right some perceived wrong you imagine rather than just getting on with enjoying yourself and /with others who enjoy similar lifestyles like most other people. Have to admit we nearly went into a induced coma trying to read it all but especially anaesthetised by the "right on man" rhetoric. Just get on with some fun for fucks sake. | |||
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"Personal choice surely? " I wouldn't drive a Kia if you paid me, but neither would I think everyone that did was an idiot. S | |||
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" Have to admit we nearly went into a induced coma trying to read it all but especially anaesthetised by the "right on man" rhetoric." Lol! Same here. Hubbies preference for no Bi guys is not based on him thinking they might jump on him. Its based on what's going on in their mind. However, if we met a bi guy in a club that we liked, as long as we didn't know he was bi, we wouldn't ask. | |||
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"Personal choice surely? I wouldn't drive a Kia if you paid me, but neither would I think everyone that did was an idiot. S" O so what's wrong with Kia's  | |||
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" well, some people need to hear this. The same people dont realise what being racist or sexist is, until you point it out. Im not generally an angry person but some things just get my goat. Philostines! X" | |||
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"I am a bi guy and I can say that I would not touch a straight guy but I can't say that I would not look at his cock and get turned on by it. This in turn could make the guy uncomfortable and change any sexual dynamic Sorry, I am always honest "got too appreciate honesty no good if the guy might not be able to perform by being uncomfortable or psychologically effected. | |||
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"I am a bi guy and I can say that I would not touch a straight guy but I can't say that I would not look at his cock and get turned on by it. This in turn could make the guy uncomfortable and change any sexual dynamic Sorry, I am always honest got too appreciate honesty no good if the guy might not be able to perform by being uncomfortable or psychologically effected." | |||
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" We dont play with bi men? Yes we have no straight guys on our profile. Not because i have something against their sexuality. Its because a) they fill ip our in box b) they're generally only looking to play with the female half c) it restricts the kind of play we like. We do meet couples where either the guy or girl is straight however. To not understand the difference between, not wanting to meet someone because their sexuality repulses you and not wanting to meet someone because they dont have what you're looking for should be obvious. As should their bigotry. Clearly this difference isn't obvious to some and may aswell be rocket science. Not playing with bi guys because they're bi is bigoted, there is no rationality to your arguement other than their sexuality. Not playing with straight guys because they dont have what you're looking for isn't bigoted it's preference. You have to be prety stupid to not know the difference. I, and im sure i speak for most bi guys would have no intention of touching a straight guy. I prefere my attention desireable. In fact i insist on it. Please dont help bugots dress up their bigotry as preference, its not. And i for one wont stand by and read peoples bigotted comments without saying my bit. Call yourselves open minded?! please! It takes more than just swinging to achieve that , Yes we have no straight guys on our profile. Not because i have something against their sexuality. Its because a) they fill ip our in box b) theyre only looking to play with the femail half c) it restricts the kind of play we like. We do meet couples where either the guy or girl is straight however. To not understand the difference between, not wanting to meet someone because their sexuality repulses you and not wanting to meet someone because they dont have what you're looking for should be obvious. As should their bigotry. Clearly this difference isn't clear to some and may aswell be rocket science. Not playing with bi guys because they're bi is bigoted, not playing with straight guys because they dont have what you're looking for isn't bigotedits preference. You have to be prety stupid to not know the difference. 10 minutes ago " TL;DR | |||
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"We don't play with bi guys It's our choice And no one else's business. "The sensible approach
I know some people say they won't have sex with bisexual men and some people say that is biphobix or whatever but I just see it as preference. It doesn't affect me in the slightest. It doesn't offend or make me feel unwanted or dismissed or sneered at. Maybe I'm just thick. | |||
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"We don't play with bi guys It's our choice And no one else's business. "Why tell everyone on the forums then, if its no one's business?? | |||
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"We don't play with bi guys It's our choice And no one else's business.
Why tell everyone on the forums then, if its no one's business??"Maybe no one else's business was a wrong phrase. It's all about choice and preference nothing else | |||
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" Have to admit we nearly went into a induced coma trying to read it all but especially anaesthetised by the "right on man" rhetoric. Lol! Same here. Hubbies preference for no Bi guys is not based on him thinking they might jump on him. Its based on what's going on in their mind. However, if we met a bi guy in a club that we liked, as long as we didn't know he was bi, we wouldn't ask. " I can tell you what is going on in my bi guy's mind ... he doesn't want to jump you .... get over yourself. Do all bi men find you irresistible? | |||
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"I'm a straight woman who loves bi men and straight men. Am I evil? "Nope if you got me on my own, you'd never know I was bi. If you met me for an mmf with a straight guy - you'd still never know I was bi  | |||
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"I'm a straight woman who loves bi men and straight men. Am I evil? "Pure Evil | |||
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"I can tell you what is going on in my bi guy's mind ... he doesn't want to jump you .... get over yourself. Do all bi men find you irresistible? " Eh? Not sure you are following. Either that or you are very touchy for some reason. Nothing to do with that. Its hubby who wants the guy to be the dominant male with only one thing on his mind. "I am a bi guy and I can say that I would not touch a straight guy but I can't say that I would not look at his cock and get turned on by it" There you go. | |||
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"I can tell you what is going on in my bi guy's mind ... he doesn't want to jump you .... get over yourself. Do all bi men find you irresistible? Eh? Not sure you are following. Either that or you are very touchy for some reason. Nothing to do with that. Its hubby who wants the guy to be the dominant male with only one thing on his mind. I am a bi guy and I can say that I would not touch a straight guy but I can't say that I would not look at his cock and get turned on by it There you go." So you assume every bi guys thinks exactly the same? | |||
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" We dont play with bi men? Yes we have no straight guys on our profile. Not because i have something against their sexuality. Its because a) they fill ip our in box b) they're generally only looking to play with the female half c) it restricts the kind of play we like. We do meet couples where either the guy or girl is straight however. To not understand the difference between, not wanting to meet someone because their sexuality repulses you and not wanting to meet someone because they dont have what you're looking for should be obvious. As should their bigotry. Clearly this difference isn't obvious to some and may aswell be rocket science. Not playing with bi guys because they're bi is bigoted, there is no rationality to your arguement other than their sexuality. Not playing with straight guys because they dont have what you're looking for isn't bigoted it's preference. You have to be prety stupid to not know the difference. I, and im sure i speak for most bi guys would have no intention of touching a straight guy. I prefere my attention desireable. In fact i insist on it. Please dont help bugots dress up their bigotry as preference, its not. And i for one wont stand by and read peoples bigotted comments without saying my bit. Call yourselves open minded?! please! It takes more than just swinging to achieve that , Yes we have no straight guys on our profile. Not because i have something against their sexuality. Its because a) they fill ip our in box b) theyre only looking to play with the femail half c) it restricts the kind of play we like. We do meet couples where either the guy or girl is straight however. To not understand the difference between, not wanting to meet someone because their sexuality repulses you and not wanting to meet someone because they dont have what you're looking for should be obvious. As should their bigotry. Clearly this difference isn't clear to some and may aswell be rocket science. Not playing with bi guys because they're bi is bigoted, not playing with straight guys because they dont have what you're looking for isn't bigotedits preference. You have to be prety stupid to not know the difference. 10 minutes ago " Ahh ok, and I won't judge you for being judgemental and making narcissistic assumptions. Actually I lied, I will | |||
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"Eh? Not sure you are following. Either that or you are very touchy for some reason. Nothing to do with that. Its hubby who wants the guy to be the dominant male with only one thing on his mind. " Oh there's a reason for sure, same reason these threads get started. I don't think they get that reason, but that in itself is pretty amusing | |||
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"I always assumed people weren't so keen on bi men because they imagine that, since we can't choose between genders, we'll do anything to anything and as a result are disease-riddled whores. Or that Gay is catching. "Of course, each to their own. | |||
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"So if you are straight you are bigoted then?
I would suggest that you give your head a shake!"That isn't what he said. | |||
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"I always assumed people weren't so keen on bi men because they imagine that, since we can't choose between genders, we'll do anything to anything and as a result are disease-riddled whores. Or that Gay is catching. "I always thought it was because we simply couldn't keep our hands to ourselves and would forcibly leap on any straight man that got within touching distance... | |||
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"I'm a straight woman who loves bi men and straight men. Am I evil?
Nope if you got me on my own, you'd never know I was bi. If you met me for an mmf with a straight guy - you'd still never know I was bi "Same here! I love the assumptions people make about Bi guys. The stupidity of them is only matched by the dumb look on their faces when I tell them I'm Bi.... | |||
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"Eh? Not sure you are following. Either that or you are very touchy for some reason. Nothing to do with that. Its hubby who wants the guy to be the dominant male with only one thing on his mind. Oh there's a reason for sure, same reason these threads get started. I don't think they get that reason, but that in itself is pretty amusing "Would it be possible for you to have a debate without being personal. | |||
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"I'm a straight woman who loves bi men and straight men. Am I evil?
Nope if you got me on my own, you'd never know I was bi. If you met me for an mmf with a straight guy - you'd still never know I was bi
Same here! I love the assumptions people make about Bi guys. The stupidity of them is only matched by the dumb look on their faces when I tell them I'm Bi.... "You're assuming that those people imagine there is something outwardly obvious in bi guys, I don't think people think that. Those people just don't want to play sexually with bi guys. Some might be bigoted, some might feel awkward, some might find the idea sexually unappealing, who knows the different reasons. It doesn't automatically make them stupid, that's as prejudicial as the attitudes you dislike. | |||
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"I get why you would not fantisies about gay guys.unless it was about them playing with your hubby of course. But a Bi guy(and I would given half the chance) play with you just the same as a guy who is not Bi. Looking at your photos I would love to fulfill a few of your fantesies." The trouble is that knowing you are bi is to be honest off putting. Hence why we don't meet bi guys. I quite accept they will not pounce on my hubbie but that is not the point. | |||
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"Eh? Not sure you are following. Either that or you are very touchy for some reason. Nothing to do with that. Its hubby who wants the guy to be the dominant male with only one thing on his mind. Oh there's a reason for sure, same reason these threads get started. I don't think they get that reason, but that in itself is pretty amusing
Would it be possible for you to have a debate without being personal. "When the point comes that you can debate without taking things personally, then that request will naturally follow, without me having to do a thing differently | |||
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"Personally I would prefer to meet bi or bi curious guys anyday. X" Hi there! | |||
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"Female speaking here but personally bi guys do nothing for me. A significant attraction to swinging is imagination and fantasy and I simply don't fantasise about bi or gay guys." I don't actively fantasise about plumbers, but it wouldn't stop me shagging a man who's a plumber. Surely it's about what you're doing with someone at the time, not what they got up to last week? | |||
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"I'm a straight woman who loves bi men and straight men. Am I evil?
Nope if you got me on my own, you'd never know I was bi. If you met me for an mmf with a straight guy - you'd still never know I was bi
Same here! I love the assumptions people make about Bi guys. The stupidity of them is only matched by the dumb look on their faces when I tell them I'm Bi....
You're assuming that those people imagine there is something outwardly obvious in bi guys, I don't think people think that. Those people just don't want to play sexually with bi guys. Some might be bigoted, some might feel awkward, some might find the idea sexually unappealing, who knows the different reasons. It doesn't automatically make them stupid, that's as prejudicial as the attitudes you dislike."Actually quite the opposite. Others made that assumption. I think the direct, polar opposite. That's why people are always surprised when I tell them, because I look no different from a straight guy. (and my wife is fucking hot to) | |||
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"Each to their own no one is judging. If I contact a lady or couple and they tell me they aren't comfortable playing with me because I'm bi or that they just aren't interested that's fine. As long as they are not rude or offensive so be it. There are guys on this site I know are way past curious with straight on their profiles so just be conscious that straight on a profile doesn't always mean straight. " Their loss though. | |||
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"We do not meet bi guys playing straight, the same way we would not meet straight females playing bi. This is not a bigoted preference, simply making sure we are looking for the same thing. " But if you meet a bi guy who is happy to have a straight MMF, then what does it matter? Being bi doesn't mean you have to have both male and female sexual interaction every time you have sex... | |||
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"Personal choice surely? I wouldn't drive a Kia if you paid me, but neither would I think everyone that did was an idiot. S O so what's wrong with Kia's "lol was just thinking that  | |||
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"I'm bi and proud of it and can honestly say the fact that some people would choose not to play with me because of my sexual preference not matching theirs does not bother me in the slightest and I certainly wouldn't think someone was bigotted for expressing that preference. It's anyones right to place their own criteria around who they play with and so long as they do so in a respectful and considerate manner I respect that right." | |||
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"We do not meet bi guys playing straight, the same way we would not meet straight females playing bi. This is not a bigoted preference, simply making sure we are looking for the same thing. But if you meet a bi guy who is happy to have a straight MMF, then what does it matter? Being bi doesn't mean you have to have both male and female sexual interaction every time you have sex... " The bottom line is that we would like to meet people who have similar sexual preferences. Every single person has right to have whatever sexual preference they want and for people to claim that you are bigoted for having a particular preference is completely wrong. | |||
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"Personal choice surely? I wouldn't drive a Kia if you paid me, but neither would I think everyone that did was an idiot. S O so what's wrong with Kia's lol was just thinking that "Nothing, I'm just trying to put over that choice is a preference. Whether the choice is based on experience, assumption or even bigotry does not mater. Its someelses choice. He/She/They don't want to play and that's the end of it. On the note of messages to bi guys from straight ones for BJ's Etc. perhaps the site should set up an "out" group? You get the message, forward it to admin who check its validity & then give the sender a week to either change their profile to bi-curious or leave
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"Female speaking here but personally bi guys do nothing for me. A significant attraction to swinging is imagination and fantasy and I simply don't fantasise about bi or gay guys. I don't actively fantasise about plumbers, but it wouldn't stop me shagging a man who's a plumber. Surely it's about what you're doing with someone at the time, not what they got up to last week? " I think it is pointless trying to explain. I simply cannot understand your thinking and clearly you don't understand mine. | |||
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"Personal choice surely? I wouldn't drive a Kia if you paid me, but neither would I think everyone that did was an idiot. S O so what's wrong with Kia's lol was just thinking that
Nothing, I'm just trying to put over that choice is a preference. Whether the choice is based on experience, assumption or even bigotry does not mater. Its someelses choice. He/She/They don't want to play and that's the end of it.
On the note of messages to bi guys from straight ones for BJ's Etc. perhaps the site should set up an "out" group? You get the message, forward it to admin who check its validity & then give the sender a week to either change their profile to bi-curious or leave
S"I don't think the "out" thing is something that can be policed. It's down to an individual's conscience or their perception of their own sexuality. I can understand how a "straight" bloke might not consider himself bi or gay for getting a blowjob from another man. | |||
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"Female speaking here but personally bi guys do nothing for me. A significant attraction to swinging is imagination and fantasy and I simply don't fantasise about bi or gay guys. I don't actively fantasise about plumbers, but it wouldn't stop me shagging a man who's a plumber. Surely it's about what you're doing with someone at the time, not what they got up to last week? I think it is pointless trying to explain. I simply cannot understand your thinking and clearly you don't understand mine." I don't think anything needs explaining, at the end of the day it's down to personal choice. I just think your logic doesn't stand up, that's all. | |||
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"Personal choice surely? I wouldn't drive a Kia if you paid me, but neither would I think everyone that did was an idiot. S O so what's wrong with Kia's lol was just thinking that
Nothing, I'm just trying to put over that choice is a preference. Whether the choice is based on experience, assumption or even bigotry does not mater. Its someelses choice. He/She/They don't want to play and that's the end of it.
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I don't think the "out" thing is something that can be policed. It's down to an individual's conscience or their perception of their own sexuality. I can understand how a "straight" bloke might not consider himself bi or gay for getting a blowjob from another man. "But most women do not consider themselves straight if they have another go down on them only, its called bi-selfish. Why not the same for guys? Mr Macho, springs to my mind... S | |||
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"Personal choice surely? I wouldn't drive a Kia if you paid me, but neither would I think everyone that did was an idiot. S O so what's wrong with Kia's lol was just thinking that
Nothing, I'm just trying to put over that choice is a preference. Whether the choice is based on experience, assumption or even bigotry does not mater. Its someelses choice. He/She/They don't want to play and that's the end of it.
On the note of messages to bi guys from straight ones for BJ's Etc. perhaps the site should set up an "out" group? You get the message, forward it to admin who check its validity & then give the sender a week to either change their profile to bi-curious or leave
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I don't think the "out" thing is something that can be policed. It's down to an individual's conscience or their perception of their own sexuality. I can understand how a "straight" bloke might not consider himself bi or gay for getting a blowjob from another man.
But most women do not consider themselves straight if they have another go down on them only, its called bi-selfish. Why not the same for guys?
Mr Macho, springs to my mind...
S"Yeah of course, but it's not an individual's fault, it's the fact that male bisexuality and male homosexuality are still equated with somehow being "less male" or effeminate and not entirely accepted by society in the way that female bisexuality has been. It also implies that female bi/homosexuality is in some way only "playing". Civilisation is oddly uncivilised sometimes. | |||
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"Eh? Not sure you are following. Either that or you are very touchy for some reason. Nothing to do with that. Its hubby who wants the guy to be the dominant male with only one thing on his mind. Oh there's a reason for sure, same reason these threads get started. I don't think they get that reason, but that in itself is pretty amusing
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"Female speaking here but personally bi guys do nothing for me. A significant attraction to swinging is imagination and fantasy and I simply don't fantasise about bi or gay guys. I don't actively fantasise about plumbers, but it wouldn't stop me shagging a man who's a plumber. Surely it's about what you're doing with someone at the time, not what they got up to last week? I think it is pointless trying to explain. I simply cannot understand your thinking and clearly you don't understand mine. I don't think anything needs explaining, at the end of the day it's down to personal choice. I just think your logic doesn't stand up, that's all. " I could say exactly the same about your logic. It's full of holes. My desires and preferences make absolute sense to me. That is all you need know. | |||
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"Having read 2 threads recently on this subject, with great interest, I am actually not much closer to understanding why people don't want to a man joining them sexually if that man happens to be bi. People use expressions like 'personal choice' and 'preference', but very few really give a reason. Now of course, their reasons are their own business, and maybe it suits them to keep that private, and I fully respect that. But in my neverending quest to increase my understanding of what makes people tick, I would love to know (if anybody was willing to share) some of the reasons why people have it as a 'preference' not to have a bi man who is playing straight join them. If there is a difference, and if so what is that difference to you? Or is it that the knowledge of their sexuality is too much of a turn-off (one honest couple on this thread did admit that). Maybe some people find bisexuality immoral and hence choose to keep that distance. Perhaps some men feel uncomfortable if a man is finding his naked body attractive. Maybe another reason altogether. As I said fully respect if you regard your reasons as none of anybody's business. But if not, it would be interesting to understand why some people have this as a rule. Mrs " It's because the stigma around bi and gay men is still there whether we accept it or not. While society looks far more favourably on lesbian and bi women men are still seen as disease carriers and all the other names you can imagine. Where in actual fact we are probably the most sexually responsible and safe individuals who get regularly tested no matter what because if the society stigma. I can play as straight as the next man. I am masculine in every way of my life but I guess there will always be some prejudice.. that's fine if they don't want me I don't want them | |||
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"Having read 2 threads recently on this subject, with great interest, I am actually not much closer to understanding why people don't want to a man joining them sexually if that man happens to be bi. People use expressions like 'personal choice' and 'preference', but very few really give a reason. Now of course, their reasons are their own business, and maybe it suits them to keep that private, and I fully respect that. But in my neverending quest to increase my understanding of what makes people tick, I would love to know (if anybody was willing to share) some of the reasons why people have it as a 'preference' not to have a bi man who is playing straight join them. If there is a difference, and if so what is that difference to you? Or is it that the knowledge of their sexuality is too much of a turn-off (one honest couple on this thread did admit that). Maybe some people find bisexuality immoral and hence choose to keep that distance. Perhaps some men feel uncomfortable if a man is finding his naked body attractive. Maybe another reason altogether. As I said fully respect if you regard your reasons as none of anybody's business. But if not, it would be interesting to understand why some people have this as a rule. Mrs It's because the stigma around bi and gay men is still there whether we accept it or not. While society looks far more favourably on lesbian and bi women men are still seen as disease carriers and all the other names you can imagine. Where in actual fact we are probably the most sexually responsible and safe individuals who get regularly tested no matter what because if the society stigma. I can play as straight as the next man. I am masculine in every way of my life but I guess there will always be some prejudice.. that's fine if they don't want me I don't want them" It's quite possibly that what you, as a bi man, says is very true. But I'd love to hear the point of _iew of those from who have a 'no bi man' rule. | |||
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"Having read 2 threads recently on this subject, with great interest, I am actually not much closer to understanding why people don't want to a man joining them sexually if that man happens to be bi. People use expressions like 'personal choice' and 'preference', but very few really give a reason. Now of course, their reasons are their own business, and maybe it suits them to keep that private, and I fully respect that. But in my neverending quest to increase my understanding of what makes people tick, I would love to know (if anybody was willing to share) some of the reasons why people have it as a 'preference' not to have a bi man who is playing straight join them. If there is a difference, and if so what is that difference to you? Or is it that the knowledge of their sexuality is too much of a turn-off (one honest couple on this thread did admit that). Maybe some people find bisexuality immoral and hence choose to keep that distance. Perhaps some men feel uncomfortable if a man is finding his naked body attractive. Maybe another reason altogether. As I said fully respect if you regard your reasons as none of anybody's business. But if not, it would be interesting to understand why some people have this as a rule. Mrs It's because the stigma around bi and gay men is still there whether we accept it or not. While society looks far more favourably on lesbian and bi women men are still seen as disease carriers and all the other names you can imagine. Where in actual fact we are probably the most sexually responsible and safe individuals who get regularly tested no matter what because if the society stigma. I can play as straight as the next man. I am masculine in every way of my life but I guess there will always be some prejudice.. that's fine if they don't want me I don't want them It's quite possibly that what you, as a bi man, says is very true. But I'd love to hear the point of _iew of those from who have a 'no bi man' rule. " Yes that's fair but they would need to be honest and say what the deep reasons are because I just don't believe it when people say they are not attracted to bi people... they are not attracted to that sexuality but they don't know the person.. two very different things | |||
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"Having read 2 threads recently on this subject, with great interest, I am actually not much closer to understanding why people don't want to a man joining them sexually if that man happens to be bi. People use expressions like 'personal choice' and 'preference', but very few really give a reason. Now of course, their reasons are their own business, and maybe it suits them to keep that private, and I fully respect that. But in my neverending quest to increase my understanding of what makes people tick, I would love to know (if anybody was willing to share) some of the reasons why people have it as a 'preference' not to have a bi man who is playing straight join them. If there is a difference, and if so what is that difference to you? Or is it that the knowledge of their sexuality is too much of a turn-off (one honest couple on this thread did admit that). Maybe some people find bisexuality immoral and hence choose to keep that distance. Perhaps some men feel uncomfortable if a man is finding his naked body attractive. Maybe another reason altogether. As I said fully respect if you regard your reasons as none of anybody's business. But if not, it would be interesting to understand why some people have this as a rule. Mrs It's because the stigma around bi and gay men is still there whether we accept it or not. While society looks far more favourably on lesbian and bi women men are still seen as disease carriers and all the other names you can imagine. Where in actual fact we are probably the most sexually responsible and safe individuals who get regularly tested no matter what because if the society stigma. I can play as straight as the next man. I am masculine in every way of my life but I guess there will always be some prejudice.. that's fine if they don't want me I don't want them It's quite possibly that what you, as a bi man, says is very true. But I'd love to hear the point of _iew of those from who have a 'no bi man' rule. Yes that's fair but they would need to be honest and say what the deep reasons are because I just don't believe it when people say they are not attracted to bi people... they are not attracted to that sexuality but they don't know the person.. two very different things" Yes I've always wondered that. Is it really possible for a woman to tell the difference between bi men and straight men at face value, to the point that this so-called difference can dictate sexual attraction? I've met so many men on Fab who I am convince they are so so straight, and then they say otherwise. I would never have known. How do others know? | |||
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"Having read 2 threads recently on this subject, with great interest, I am actually not much closer to understanding why people don't want to a man joining them sexually if that man happens to be bi. People use expressions like 'personal choice' and 'preference', but very few really give a reason. Now of course, their reasons are their own business, and maybe it suits them to keep that private, and I fully respect that. But in my neverending quest to increase my understanding of what makes people tick, I would love to know (if anybody was willing to share) some of the reasons why people have it as a 'preference' not to have a bi man who is playing straight join them. If there is a difference, and if so what is that difference to you? Or is it that the knowledge of their sexuality is too much of a turn-off (one honest couple on this thread did admit that). Maybe some people find bisexuality immoral and hence choose to keep that distance. Perhaps some men feel uncomfortable if a man is finding his naked body attractive. Maybe another reason altogether. As I said fully respect if you regard your reasons as none of anybody's business. But if not, it would be interesting to understand why some people have this as a rule. Mrs It's because the stigma around bi and gay men is still there whether we accept it or not. While society looks far more favourably on lesbian and bi women men are still seen as disease carriers and all the other names you can imagine. Where in actual fact we are probably the most sexually responsible and safe individuals who get regularly tested no matter what because if the society stigma. I can play as straight as the next man. I am masculine in every way of my life but I guess there will always be some prejudice.. that's fine if they don't want me I don't want them It's quite possibly that what you, as a bi man, says is very true. But I'd love to hear the point of _iew of those from who have a 'no bi man' rule. Yes that's fair but they would need to be honest and say what the deep reasons are because I just don't believe it when people say they are not attracted to bi people... they are not attracted to that sexuality but they don't know the person.. two very different things Yes I've always wondered that. Is it really possible for a woman to tell the difference between bi men and straight men at face value, to the point that this so-called difference can dictate sexual attraction? I've met so many men on Fab who I am convince they are so so straight, and then they say otherwise. I would never have known. How do others know?" The few people out of the swinging world that know me my sexuality and sexual activities could not believe I was bi for a long time so there really is no physical indicator it's about honesty | |||
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No funny to be fair! Disrespectful unwarranted and completely unacceptable.
I must say while being a masculjne guy and able to play straight it's not my preference if I meet a couple I would 99/100 go for a couple with a bi male"I don't take things seriously enough obviously lol. Sure if he keeps behaving like that he'll get his block knocked off. | |||
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No funny to be fair! Disrespectful unwarranted and completely unacceptable.
I must say while being a masculjne guy and able to play straight it's not my preference if I meet a couple I would 99/100 go for a couple with a bi male
I don't take things seriously enough obviously lol.
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"I'm a straight woman who loves bi men and straight men. Am I evil?
Nope if you got me on my own, you'd never know I was bi. If you met me for an mmf with a straight guy - you'd still never know I was bi "Oh but I do | |||
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Nope if you got me on my own, you'd never know I was bi. If you met me for an mmf with a straight guy - you'd still never know I was bi
Oh but I do "I know
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"I'm bi sexual but don't find bi sexual men a turn on. Just gonna put my bulletproof vest on and await the outcome x I may throw in some haribo for good measure " I've got done haribo.....check out the photo. I personally don't mind the reasons why people don't want sex with bi men and they don't really need to explain either. Ni one owes me anything, least of all their motivations and reasons. Not meaning you, just people in general. | |||
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"Eh? Not sure you are following. Either that or you are very touchy for some reason. Nothing to do with that. Its hubby who wants the guy to be the dominant male with only one thing on his mind. Oh there's a reason for sure, same reason these threads get started. I don't think they get that reason, but that in itself is pretty amusing
Would it be possible for you to have a debate without being personal.
When the point comes that you can debate without taking things personally, then that request will naturally follow, without me having to do a thing differently
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"I'm straight and have had an mmf with a bi guy, he stared at me a lot, put me and hence the girl off. I won't be meeting with bi guys playing straight. It was a massive turn off and he pretended to be straight at first and licked my ball when I wasn't looking! Ha funny but gross. No thanks. Not homophobic or bi-phobic just don't like it. Does that clear anything up? "Bad experience with a prat! Cant blame you for being put off, once bitten as it were. But i am sure you realise that other BI men dont go where not invited so anouther BI guy (yes like me) would not give the same problem. The behaviour of straight guys in a 3some can be equally off putting for other reasons mind. And actually the attitude of some woman as well. I have to say those experiences have not put me off 3somes. Thanks for being honest and saying why. Some guys give men a bad name that spoils it for the rest of us. The NO i really am NOT like your ex, honest! Type issue. Thanks for nothing Prat Boy! Hope it does not spoil your swinning. | |||
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"Eh? Not sure you are following. Either that or you are very touchy for some reason. Nothing to do with that. Its hubby who wants the guy to be the dominant male with only one thing on his mind. Oh there's a reason for sure, same reason these threads get started. I don't think they get that reason, but that in itself is pretty amusing
Would it be possible for you to have a debate without being personal.
When the point comes that you can debate without taking things personally, then that request will naturally follow, without me having to do a thing differently
I will ley you know which threads I am posting on if it helpsy
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"I didn't say it was a problem. I was just waiting to get stick about my personal sexual preference x " There's nothing wrong with your preference. But I'm very curious as to how you know they are bi? For example if you were to meet a guy (not necessarily from Fab), and you got to know him, hit it off and you two started to fancy each other. But then you discovered he were bi, would you go off him? Or is it more of a case, that before you knew his sexuality, it would just be impossible for you to fancy him in the first place. What I'm trying to say, is it that there is a difference in sex appeal between bi men and straight men even if you don't know they're straight. This is purely my curiosity, and doesn't effect me in the least. I used to find men on men play distasteful, but I personally couldn't tell the difference with many men so it didn't effect whether I fancied them. | |||
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"I'm straight and have had an mmf with a bi guy, he stared at me a lot, put me and hence the girl off. I won't be meeting with bi guys playing straight. It was a massive turn off and he pretended to be straight at first and licked my ball when I wasn't looking! Ha funny but gross. No thanks. Not homophobic or bi-phobic just don't like it. Does that clear anything up?
No funny to be fair! Disrespectful unwarranted and completely unacceptable.
I must say while being a masculjne guy and able to play straight it's not my preference if I meet a couple I would 99/100 go for a couple with a bi male
I don't take things seriously enough obviously lol.
Sure if he keeps behaving like that he'll get his block knocked off.
Not wishing to downplay the incident, but weren't you a tad suspicious about his face being in close proximity to your genitals? "He shuffled round as I was having sex with the girl doggy style so he was in a 69 with the girl. I thought, I'm not 100 per cent on board but the girl is loving it. Just thought he was trying to please the girl not sneak in a stealth lick! Appreciate this is 1 guy and straight guys are bulls in a china shop sometimes. | |||
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"People are entitled to play with who they want without fear of being labelled racist or a bigot or anything else if you wish to play with bi guys fill your boots it's just not everyone's cup of tea thanks , personally I'm here to do as I wish for me and not what's right or wrong in the eyes of some other person. So the moral is live and let live you do as you please and leat others do as they please without brandishing them with a label " | |||
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"amazeballsnfabflaps, why try to preach to others? You are not going to change anyone's way of swinging no matter what you write unless you are just looking for an argument. Better to just play how you like and leave others to there own thing." | |||
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"So if you are straight you are bigoted then?
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" We dont play with bi men? Blahh blah blahhdy blah.... Drama queens? Attention whores? Whatever your preference this kind of muti soundbite phrase quoting is getting pretty boring. We (us as a couple) do of course appreciate your right to bang on about some crusade to right some perceived wrong you imagine rather than just getting on with enjoying yourself and /with others who enjoy similar lifestyles like most other people. Have to admit we nearly went into a induced coma trying to read it all but especially anaesthetised by the "right on man" rhetoric. Just get on with some fun for fucks sake. " | |||
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"I guess if some ones proference doesn't include you then it's always racist/bigoted/homophobic " ...in a nutshell! | |||
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"You misunderstood. OPs preferences are sensible preferences. Other peoples preferences are bigotry. Easy." Oh I got that! It's the norm for Fab. | |||
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"Why do you assume that somebody who doesn't want to meet bi guys finds their sexuality repulsive? They may not want to meet bi guys for other reasons. Not wanting to meet bi guy's doesn't automatically make somebody bigoted, It is there reason for not wanting to meet bi guy's that defines if they are bigoted or not. " Exactly! | |||
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"If a man told me he is bi - bi curious or bisexual etc I wouldn't meet him " Neither would I, but not because I found him repulsive. I used to meet bi men, but the way I play the ones I met didn't meet my needs. I don't meet Doms, short men, women, black men, young men either as they're not what I'm looking for sexually, it's as simple as that really. | |||
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"Any posts from people who are getting all twisted about why others who don't want to meet them really do make me laugh, whatever the said subject is about. They remind me of those posts that have a sense sense of narcissistic entitlement. They remind me of those posts that roll everyone into one ball and make massive assumptions and judgments on them, because of a choice they made. If you've been hanging around the threads long enough, you will have seen the ones I mean. Does it really effect you? If so in what way? I'd agree if such people are rude or disrespectful towards those they don't want to meet, and in my opinion, that's fair enough. Otherwise, The only reason I see people get all upset about it, is because it's a slap to their own sense of entitlement, ego and insecurities, and therefore they make a big noise just to emotionally massage themselves. We don't mind meeti_g couples where the male half is Bi, but it was a decision we had to think about. Why? Simply because as a heterosexual male, I don't understand men that are Bi? I don't get their drives, their passions, what makes them tick sexually. I don't judge them for that, but I don't get it, so yes during play, I might feel a little uncomfortable. But ultimately we decided we would, as I wasn't under an illusion a Bi male would "fancy me" "try and touch me up" or whatever else, and I don't judge, or make assumptions. I could equally have a female I don't fancy, "fancy me" or "try to touch me up". But often, from a psychological point of _iew, when one doesn't understand something, they find it difficult to accept, and naturally feel uncomfortable and unable to relax. That doesn't make one a bigot or whatever other name or "ism" you might want to throw at them. It makes them Human, and normal. Having sex is an intimate affair, particularly when doing so with others, so surely, someone has a right to feel 100% comfortable and relaxed when doing so? Yet, they get judged and have assumptions made about them by the self entitled, the narcissistic and those with bruised ego's. " | |||
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"If a man told me he is bi - bi curious or bisexual etc I wouldn't meet him Neither would I, but not because I found him repulsive. I used to meet bi men, but the way I play the ones I met didn't meet my needs. I don't meet Doms, short men, women, black men, young men either as they're not what I'm looking for sexually, it's as simple as that really. "Ok that's interesting to hear. So from your experience bi men typically play slightly differently, and in a way that doesn't meet your needs? | |||
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Ok that's interesting to hear. So from your experience bi men typically play slightly differently, and in a way that doesn't meet your needs?"Yes. I'm into anal play. I know some bi men are only orally bi, but the ones I met were fully bi. I like sexually submissive men. A straight man/orally bi man struggles but submits to what I do to them. The fact my playmates are all "alpha" males, in total control of others outside the bedroom adds an extra element to the meet. Fully bi men don't "struggle"...and it's the struggle I need, if that makes sense. | |||
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Ok that's interesting to hear. So from your experience bi men typically play slightly differently, and in a way that doesn't meet your needs?
Yes. I'm into anal play. I know some bi men are only orally bi, but the ones I met were fully bi. I like sexually submissive men. A straight man/orally bi man struggles but submits to what I do to them. The fact my playmates are all "alpha" males, in total control of others outside the bedroom adds an extra element to the meet.
Fully bi men don't "struggle"...and it's the struggle I need, if that makes sense."You'd get more than a struggle from me. | |||
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Ok that's interesting to hear. So from your experience bi men typically play slightly differently, and in a way that doesn't meet your needs?
Yes. I'm into anal play. I know some bi men are only orally bi, but the ones I met were fully bi. I like sexually submissive men. A straight man/orally bi man struggles but submits to what I do to them. The fact my playmates are all "alpha" males, in total control of others outside the bedroom adds an extra element to the meet.
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Ok that's interesting to hear. So from your experience bi men typically play slightly differently, and in a way that doesn't meet your needs?"Ok well that means i would not meet with you as Iam a Domenent Man and would not submit to you. That has nothing to do with me being Bi. I get the struggle bit by the way, last Dominatrix I met it took me 3 months to gain her submission. Worth it mind and no I never switched with her. | |||
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Ok that's interesting to hear. So from your experience bi men typically play slightly differently, and in a way that doesn't meet your needs?
Ok well that means i would not meet with you as Iam a Domenent Man and would not submit to you. That has nothing to do with me being Bi.
I get the struggle bit by the way, last Dominatrix I met it took me 3 months to gain her submission. Worth it mind and no I never switched with her."But plenty of men who play as Dom are also happy to play vanilla, in the same way that I thought that plenty of bi men are more than capable of playing straight. Though I've met 1 Dom who will not play vanilla ever, and I'm sure there are some bi men that play a bit different from straight men. | |||
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Ok that's interesting to hear. So from your experience bi men typically play slightly differently, and in a way that doesn't meet your needs?
Ok well that means i would not meet with you as Iam a Domenent Man and would not submit to you. That has nothing to do with me being Bi.
I get the struggle bit by the way, last Dominatrix I met it took me 3 months to gain her submission. Worth it mind and no I never switched with her.
But plenty of men who play as Dom are also happy to play vanilla, in the same way that I thought that plenty of bi men are more than capable of playing straight. Though I've met 1 Dom who will not play vanilla ever, and I'm sure there are some bi men that play a bit different from straight men. "To be honest i always play full Domenent, but thats not always BDSM play. My personality is to take control but if that is what you mean by Vanila then yes i play that way as well. In a FM meet i cant see how BI means anything much different. I could sit here and say i am sensitive to the needs of my partner but that would just sound sooo cheesy and wank! | |||
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"If a man told me he is bi - bi curious or bisexual etc I wouldn't meet him Neither would I, but not because I found him repulsive. I used to meet bi men, but the way I play the ones I met didn't meet my needs. I don't meet Doms, short men, women, black men, young men either as they're not what I'm looking for sexually, it's as simple as that really.
Ok that's interesting to hear. So from your experience bi men typically play slightly differently, and in a way that doesn't meet your needs?
Ok well that means i would not meet with you as Iam a Domenent Man and would not submit to you. That has nothing to do with me being Bi.
I get the struggle bit by the way, last Dominatrix I met it took me 3 months to gain her submission. Worth it mind and no I never switched with her.
But plenty of men who play as Dom are also happy to play vanilla, in the same way that I thought that plenty of bi men are more than capable of playing straight. Though I've met 1 Dom who will not play vanilla ever, and I'm sure there are some bi men that play a bit different from straight men.
To be honest i always play full Domenent, but thats not always BDSM play. My personality is to take control but if that is what you mean by Vanila then yes i play that way as well.
In a FM meet i cant see how BI means anything much different. I could sit here and say i am sensitive to the needs of my partner but that would just sound sooo cheesy and wank!"Yeah I meant that a man who takes the role of Dom where his partner is his owned submissive is usually capable of having vanilla sex without the D/s element, albeit in a dominant fashion. | |||
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"If a man told me he is bi - bi curious or bisexual etc I wouldn't meet him Neither would I, but not because I found him repulsive. I used to meet bi men, but the way I play the ones I met didn't meet my needs. I don't meet Doms, short men, women, black men, young men either as they're not what I'm looking for sexually, it's as simple as that really.
Ok that's interesting to hear. So from your experience bi men typically play slightly differently, and in a way that doesn't meet your needs?
Ok well that means i would not meet with you as Iam a Domenent Man and would not submit to you. That has nothing to do with me being Bi.
I get the struggle bit by the way, last Dominatrix I met it took me 3 months to gain her submission. Worth it mind and no I never switched with her.
But plenty of men who play as Dom are also happy to play vanilla, in the same way that I thought that plenty of bi men are more than capable of playing straight. Though I've met 1 Dom who will not play vanilla ever, and I'm sure there are some bi men that play a bit different from straight men.
To be honest i always play full Domenent, but thats not always BDSM play. My personality is to take control but if that is what you mean by Vanila then yes i play that way as well.
In a FM meet i cant see how BI means anything much different. I could sit here and say i am sensitive to the needs of my partner but that would just sound sooo cheesy and wank!
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"Well actually It is Not Anal sex that is the risk as much as unprotected sex. So all these bareback only folks should be avoided like the plauge if that is what you are worried about." Exactly... multiple bareback partners is a sure fire way to increase the risk of ALL STIs. Because of the risks associated with gay/bi sex you will find guys in those categories are diligently checked at clinics way more than I bet your average couple or straight guy is. Not only that but also Safer and more aware when practicing sex. I find it funny that people say I have nothing against bi guys I just don't want HIV... kind of a contradiction in terms | |||
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"Don't assume prejudice, blood donors cannot give blood if they have had any sex with a bi man in the previous 12 months." That's very true... goes back to the other point above though.. if someone doesn't tell you they are bi and you like bareback how will you ever know... and then add the fact you are a blood donor!!!!! Anyway I'm done with this. Other than the physical attraction I don't see there is any real reason that this argument will stop so I'm out | |||
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" I don't play with Bi men, I am not a bigot. You are the bigot for forcing your opinion down other people's throat. I am NOT anti gay or Bi I JUST DON'T WANT TO FUCK THEM. The risk of getting HIV is greater. Fuck each other up the arse to your hearts content but don't have a go at others their own preferences, that is bigotry too. XXX" You are, by far, one of the most ignorant people ever. The majority of HIV cases come through shared needles for drug addicts. Current data shows sexually related HIV is now mostly spread by young, straight people having unprotected sex, regardless of location, social status, financial status etc. Chlamydia has never been so prevalent as it is now for the very same reasons. As a bi man I wouldn't dream of having unprotected sex with anyone, male or female. Also, as a bi man, I am more than aware of the risks involved with unprotected sex with strangers tyvm. I've seen more condoms being used in gay clubs or on bi nights than I ever have on straight nights in the very same club. Now crawl back under your rock or cave or wherever it is you reside. Ps: I've not messaged anyone who doesn't have bi or bi curious on their profile so they don't feel threatened by 'de ghey'  | |||
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" I don't play with Bi men, I am not a bigot. You are the bigot for forcing your opinion down other people's throat. I am NOT anti gay or Bi I JUST DON'T WANT TO FUCK THEM. The risk of getting HIV is greater. Fuck each other up the arse to your hearts content but don't have a go at others their own preferences, that is bigotry too. XXX You are, by far, one of the most ignorant people ever. The majority of HIV cases come through shared needles for drug addicts. Current data shows sexually related HIV is now mostly spread by young, straight people having unprotected sex, regardless of location, social status, financial status etc. Chlamydia has never been so prevalent as it is now for the very same reasons. As a bi man I wouldn't dream of having unprotected sex with anyone, male or female. Also, as a bi man, I am more than aware of the risks involved with unprotected sex with strangers tyvm. I've seen more condoms being used in gay clubs or on bi nights than I ever have on straight nights in the very same club. " I don't disagree with all you have said but recently there was a post that said unofficially a very popular club on bi day/night is bare night...so you could understand why people may think that bi guys are more likely to play bi. ( not my _iew btw just saying I understand why) But as we dont attend these nights I can not tell you anything... (I am one of these women whose preferences include no bi guys... and its my preference not my partners) | |||
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" I don't play with Bi men, I am not a bigot. You are the bigot for forcing your opinion down other people's throat. I am NOT anti gay or Bi I JUST DON'T WANT TO FUCK THEM. The risk of getting HIV is greater. Fuck each other up the arse to your hearts content but don't have a go at others their own preferences, that is bigotry too. XXX You are, by far, one of the most ignorant people ever. The majority of HIV cases come through shared needles for drug addicts. Current data shows sexually related HIV is now mostly spread by young, straight people having unprotected sex, regardless of location, social status, financial status etc. Chlamydia has never been so prevalent as it is now for the very same reasons. As a bi man I wouldn't dream of having unprotected sex with anyone, male or female. Also, as a bi man, I am more than aware of the risks involved with unprotected sex with strangers tyvm. I've seen more condoms being used in gay clubs or on bi nights than I ever have on straight nights in the very same club. I don't disagree with all you have said but recently there was a post that said unofficially a very popular club on bi day/night is bare night...so you could understand why people may think that bi guys are more likely to play bi. ( not my _iew btw just saying I understand why) But as we dont attend these nights I can not tell you anything... (I am one of these women whose preferences include no bi guys... and its my preference not my partners) " There is covering very rarely any male bi sex on bi nights. I have only seen this at one bi club .... so why is it necessarily seen as the men who are responsible? | |||
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" I don't play with Bi men, I am not a bigot. You are the bigot for forcing your opinion down other people's throat. I am NOT anti gay or Bi I JUST DON'T WANT TO FUCK THEM. The risk of getting HIV is greater. Fuck each other up the arse to your hearts content but don't have a go at others their own preferences, that is bigotry too. XXX You are, by far, one of the most ignorant people ever. The majority of HIV cases come through shared needles for drug addicts. Current data shows sexually related HIV is now mostly spread by young, straight people having unprotected sex, regardless of location, social status, financial status etc. Chlamydia has never been so prevalent as it is now for the very same reasons. As a bi man I wouldn't dream of having unprotected sex with anyone, male or female. Also, as a bi man, I am more than aware of the risks involved with unprotected sex with strangers tyvm. I've seen more condoms being used in gay clubs or on bi nights than I ever have on straight nights in the very same club. I don't disagree with all you have said but recently there was a post that said unofficially a very popular club on bi day/night is bare night...so you could understand why people may think that bi guys are more likely to play bi. ( not my _iew btw just saying I understand why) But as we dont attend these nights I can not tell you anything... (I am one of these women whose preferences include no bi guys... and its my preference not my partners) There is covering very rarely any male bi sex on bi nights. I have only seen this at one bi club .... so why is it necessarily seen as the men who are responsible?" didnt say they are. Just that the gentleman said that at bi nights he had been to that there was more safe sex but that was in contradiction to some other experiences people had shared.. and in another thread it was said that bi night at a popular club was well known to be bare night too. But as we dont go on bi nights we can't comment on if its true.. however if like us all people have is stories like we read.. we can understand why some seem to assume that bi guys and those that meet them seem to play bare more. For the record we dont think that's true as we have no experience and have found in general there is about a mix of 50/50 at clubs of people wanting unprotected or not. Protection or lack of it is up to all involved and only becomes an issue if someone is saying one thing and doing another. | |||
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"However that said if they've made a comment about how won't meet bi guys because they'll jump on hubby's cock and he'll catch the gay as well as a hundred other diseases then we'll call them a bigot. "If they won't say why they won't meet Bi guys, that usually is the reason, lol. | |||
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"What I think is strange is that some people think bi men are a 'race' apart ... obviously straight men. Maybe the same for bi women for the straight women who won't meet them ... there are some couples who won't meet a couple with a bi woman, just as there are some couples who wont meet a couple with a bi man. I think there are assumptions made about 'bi' men and women which involves lumping them all together as one type ... and these same people have some assumptions about what bi men and or women are like in terms of their sexual behaviour, the degree to which they can control their impulses, etc. I have met a number of men in the past who I have subsequently found out are bi, but it didn't ever come up before or after. For myself, personally, I would prefer to click with the person involved rather than interrogate and make a judgment on their sexuality" Well said. | |||
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"Once again, it has nothing to do with thinking bi men are going to jump on hubbie or "catch the gay" bug. Its purely a mind/fantasy thing in not wanting to go with bi males. We played with a couple last year and didn't find out he was bi until we logged into Fab the next day. Not a problem, and certainly no regrets. But wouldn't have done it if we would have known. Again, its a "mind" thing. Its how our fantasies have developed together. Would also like to distance myself from the fucktard comment pretty much labelling all bi men to be the main carriers of HIV. " Thats Cool Susan and I was not suggesting you had anything to do with the numpty comments. Its really interesting your post, and i mean that genuinly, as it kind of proves my point. One perhaps you should mull over (or not your free will of course). You had a meet with a guy who turns out to be bi. You clearly enjoyed it when you did not know. Going to prove the point that BI men can be fun in a striaght context. The "mind" fantasy bit does not include BI men. Get that to actually, fantasy is very personal. The meet may not have fullfilled that Fantasy image (maybe it did) but you enjoyed it and had no regrets. If the "mind" fantasy was fullfilled with someone the question i have is this. Would it really matter if he was BI? The "mind" fantasy would be fullfilled. Image and reality are different and Fantasy, while rarely ever living up to expectation, can be fullfilled in suprising ways. Happy Swinging. | |||
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"Once again, it has nothing to do with thinking bi men are going to jump on hubbie or "catch the gay" bug. Its purely a mind/fantasy thing in not wanting to go with bi males. We played with a couple last year and didn't find out he was bi until we logged into Fab the next day. Not a problem, and certainly no regrets. But wouldn't have done it if we would have known. Again, its a "mind" thing. Its how our fantasies have developed together. Would also like to distance myself from the fucktard comment pretty much labelling all bi men to be the main carriers of HIV. " That's very honest of you. I think it's normal to have deep down feelings that make certain things feel uncomfortable, but for no logical reason. I suspect a lot of people who say it's their 'preference' or 'personal choice' feel a similar way, but don't want to admit as they may be accused of predudice. I think you are right, it's highly likely that many avoid playing bi men because it's a 'mind thing'. And that's fine - we're only human after all. Personally I think we should do away with labels of sexuality, then nobody will know unless people choose to ask. Mrs | |||
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"Would it really matter if he was BI? The "mind" fantasy would be fullfilled. " It wouldn't be fulfilled as we would already know beforehand and therefore the fantasy would be a non starter. Correct me if you are wrong, but are you saying that if we "give it a try" with a bi man, we might enjoy it? Again, yes if we didn't know beforehand. We use Fab purely to fulfil our fantasies. We don't need to give anything a try that doesn't excite us mentally. xx | |||
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"Would it really matter if he was BI? The "mind" fantasy would be fullfilled. It wouldn't be fulfilled as we would already know beforehand and therefore the fantasy would be a non starter. Correct me if you are wrong, but are you saying that if we "give it a try" with a bi man, we might enjoy it? Again, yes if we didn't know beforehand. We use Fab purely to fulfil our fantasies. We don't need to give anything a try that doesn't excite us mentally. xx" A great answer. That perfectly explains our take on this as well. | |||
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"Would it really matter if he was BI? The "mind" fantasy would be fullfilled. It wouldn't be fulfilled as we would already know beforehand and therefore the fantasy would be a non starter. Correct me if you are wrong, but are you saying that if we "give it a try" with a bi man, we might enjoy it? Again, yes if we didn't know beforehand. We use Fab purely to fulfil our fantasies. We don't need to give anything a try that doesn't excite us mentally. xx" thats exactly it for me... if I know in advance then there is just no sexual attraction... and I know it may not make sense to some but bi guys do not feature anywhere in my sexual fantasies | |||
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"People are entitled to play with who they want without fear of being labelled racist or a bigot or anything else if you wish to play with bi guys fill your boots it's just not everyone's cup of tea thanks , personally I'm here to do as I wish for me and not what's right or wrong in the eyes of some other person. So the moral is live and let live you do as you please and leat others do as they please without brandishing them with a label "You are entitled to play with who you want. Yes. But you are not entitled to immunity from accusations of being bigoted if your actions are bigoted. You are never immune from criticism. | |||
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"Would it really matter if he was BI? The "mind" fantasy would be fullfilled. It wouldn't be fulfilled as we would already know beforehand and therefore the fantasy would be a non starter. Correct me if you are wrong, but are you saying that if we "give it a try" with a bi man, we might enjoy it? Again, yes if we didn't know beforehand. We use Fab purely to fulfil our fantasies. We don't need to give anything a try that doesn't excite us mentally. xx" Hi Susan no i was not suggesting that. You have been very honest and open about what you want and I respect that greatly. I was suggesting that the situation and why you feel that way is one you may (totally your own choice) wish to consider. What conclusion you do or do not come to is entierly your own free will. Again happy swinging. | |||
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"I'm a straight woman who loves bi men and straight men. Am I evil?
Pure Evil
That sexy arse of yours is looking for a good smack
If that's what it takes to meet in person again then it's a done deal "Woooo hooooo | |||
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"People are entitled to play with who they want without fear of being labelled racist or a bigot or anything else if you wish to play with bi guys fill your boots it's just not everyone's cup of tea thanks , personally I'm here to do as I wish for me and not what's right or wrong in the eyes of some other person. So the moral is live and let live you do as you please and leat others do as they please without brandishing them with a label "its because im into "live and let live" that i take umbridge to the statement "we dont play with bi guys" theres no physical difference. You would never know if someone was bi if they weren't out. Its not like saying "i dont like pain or pee etc" its a prejudice. That get my heckles up. People dont like being called bigotted when they clearly are. I dont like to hear blatent prejudice. Which it is. I cant ignore this and won't ignore it. | |||
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"Would it really matter if he was BI? The "mind" fantasy would be fullfilled. It wouldn't be fulfilled as we would already know beforehand and therefore the fantasy would be a non starter. Correct me if you are wrong, but are you saying that if we "give it a try" with a bi man, we might enjoy it? Again, yes if we didn't know beforehand. We use Fab purely to fulfil our fantasies. We don't need to give anything a try that doesn't excite us mentally. xx thats exactly it for me... if I know in advance then there is just no sexual attraction... and I know it may not make sense to some but bi guys do not feature anywhere in my sexual fantasies " you dont have to have bi sex with a bi guy. Its not mandatory just because theres a bi guy in the room | |||
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"People are entitled to play with who they want without fear of being labelled racist or a bigot or anything else if you wish to play with bi guys fill your boots it's just not everyone's cup of tea thanks , personally I'm here to do as I wish for me and not what's right or wrong in the eyes of some other person. So the moral is live and let live you do as you please and leat others do as they please without brandishing them with a label its because im into "live and let live" that i take umbridge to the statement "we dont play with bi guys" theres no physical difference. You would never know if someone was bi if they weren't out. Its not like saying "i dont like pain or pee etc" its a prejudice. That get my heckles up. People dont like being called bigotted when they clearly are. I dont like to hear blatent prejudice. Which it is. I cant ignore this and won't ignore it."Just accept, let it go and move on you seen to be bigoted to other peoples preferences. You are not gonna change or accomplice anything by this I'm sorry to tell you. | |||
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"amazeballsnfabflaps, why try to preach to others? You are not going to change anyone's way of swinging no matter what you write unless you are just looking for an argument. Better to just play how you like and leave others to there own thing." im not trying to tell people how to swing, im trying to point out that some peoples attitudes and use of language is prejudice based on unfounded and outdated fears | |||
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" We dont play with bi men? Blahh blah blahhdy blah.... Drama queens? Attention whores? Whatever your preference this kind of muti soundbite phrase quoting is getting pretty boring. We (us as a couple) do of course appreciate your right to bang on about some crusade to right some perceived wrong you imagine rather than just getting on with enjoying yourself and /with others who enjoy similar lifestyles like most other people. Have to admit we nearly went into a induced coma trying to read it all but especially anaesthetised by the "right on man" rhetoric. Just get on with some fun for fucks sake. " this has all the hall marks of burying your head in the sand | |||
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"amazeballsnfabflaps, why try to preach to others? You are not going to change anyone's way of swinging no matter what you write unless you are just looking for an argument. Better to just play how you like and leave others to there own thing." | |||
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"Just because a guy is bi sexual dosent mean he want to play with you. We are a bi couple who play bi and straight if a guy is straight then we play straight" We get this a lot from a few bi guys. There is an assumption we will both want to play with him, so not much effort made. Realistically though, each person is different | |||
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