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"Has anyone here ever caught anything from swinging or felt the need for a check up after a meeting?" I've never caught anything, but I play safe and get to know people. It's a risk, but a calculated one. | |||
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"Has anyone here ever caught anything from swinging or felt the need for a check up after a meeting?" No thank god. can't understand why people insist on bareback.they are asking for trouble. | |||
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"Non never, get checked regularly. Worst iv ever had is thrush and that wasn't caught off anyone "I got thrush in the army. Scared the life out of me.. I was 19 and thought my sex life was over lmfao! Accused my gf of giving me an sti.. Then I was educated on what I had by the doctor, and made a very humble apology to my girlfriend. | |||
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"Don't forget you can get std's through oral to not just bareback. So always go for regular checkups. The only safe sex is no sex" Exactly,I got one and it wasn't from bareback! People saying they watch who they go with is nonsense and I never believe what's on their profile either! | |||
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"Non never, get checked regularly. Worst iv ever had is thrush and that wasn't caught off anyone
I got thrush in the army. Scared the life out of me.. I was 19 and thought my sex life was over lmfao! Accused my gf of giving me an sti.. Then I was educated on what I had by the doctor, and made a very humble apology to my girlfriend. "Was she still you're girlfriend after that,I think I'd be saying cheerio?! | |||
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"Has anyone ever had a .... Influenza? COPD? Diabetes? Cihhosis of the liver? Small pox? Measles? Malaria? Ebola? Cancer? (Kills 1:5) A common cold ffs!!?????? All are scientifically proven to be more life threatening than treated STIs. (Quite why smokers wear condoms i cannot understand???) What is this paranoia about avoiding STIs when there are far more widespread life threatening risks out there that are accepted without thought? Rant over .... and chill .... "Just because I'm more likely to get hit by a bus.. Doesn't mean I should be concerned about sharks when having an evening swim in a warm country! Miss stis can be managed or treated, but some can't, or can no longer be. There is also the stress and fear of passing it to someone you care about, now or later. So I only go bareback when I'm with someone long term. And guess what.. I'm a smoker.. What an idiot I must be to care about stis yet still enjoy the occasional fag and spliff. Words can't express how I feel right now. | |||
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"Non never, get checked regularly. Worst iv ever had is thrush and that wasn't caught off anyone
I got thrush in the army. Scared the life out of me.. I was 19 and thought my sex life was over lmfao! Accused my gf of giving me an sti.. Then I was educated on what I had by the doctor, and made a very humble apology to my girlfriend.
Was she still you're girlfriend after that,I think I'd be saying cheerio?!"Yes I was lucky, I was genuinely sorry for my stupidity and she could tell. | |||
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"Don't forget you can get std's through oral to not just bareback. So always go for regular checkups. The only safe sex is no sex" Well pointed out. Also bare back Anal with either sex is your highest chance of catching something - from what I've been told, but I've already confessed to being an idiot. Calculated risk/reward. If you are not living life on the edge, you're taking up to much space. But life on the edge is better with a safety harness or two. | |||
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"You have a very good point well made. The scientific approach to risk is best. The tendency (perhaps from a religious upbringing) to associate bad things with pleasure should be resisted." Thanks. Be real people! Genital herpes is the same as cold sores yet one is an inconvenience and the other (genital herpes) strikes fear into the heart of others. Flu kills 12,000 people a year in the UK but, "I had the Flu  " is worn as a badge of honour. No one will say "I had chlamydia  and had no symptoms at all but when i found out I took one tablet and it went" No one dies of Chlamydia!!
Its the guilt associated with sex that makes STIs so scary. Its amazing that we still find it in 2016 on a swingers site.
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"No thank goodness. I watch who I meet." You watch them? To check they don't have an STI? Cause you can see them? Be smart people, get regular check ups. Watching who you meet will not keep you safe.  | |||
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"Has anyone here ever caught anything from swinging or felt the need for a check up after a meeting?" All swingers should get tested regularly as a matter of course. Anyone who doesn't is dangerous. IMHO. Flames | |||
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"You have a very good point well made. The scientific approach to risk is best. The tendency (perhaps from a religious upbringing) to associate bad things with pleasure should be resisted. Thanks. Be real people! Genital herpes is the same as cold sores yet one is an inconvenience and the other (genital herpes) strikes fear into the heart of others. Flu kills 12,000 people a year in the UK but, "I had the Flu " is worn as a badge of honour. No one will say "I had chlamydia and had no symptoms at all but when i found out I took one tablet and it went" No one dies of Chlamydia!!
Its the guilt associated with sex that makes STIs so scary. Its amazing that we still find it in 2016 on a swingers site.
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"You have a very good point well made. The scientific approach to risk is best. The tendency (perhaps from a religious upbringing) to associate bad things with pleasure should be resisted. Thanks. Be real people! Genital herpes is the same as cold sores yet one is an inconvenience and the other (genital herpes) strikes fear into the heart of others. Flu kills 12,000 people a year in the UK but, "I had the7 Flu " is worn as a badge of honour. No one will say "I had chlamydia and had no symptoms at all but when i found out I took one tablet and it went" No one dies of Chlamydia!!
Its the guilt associated with sex that makes STIs so scary. Its amazing that we still find it in 2016 on a swingers site.
Crazy isn't it! It's five tablets by the way not one "Depends what they give you. Lol! But when did they last cure a cold with 5 tablets??  | |||
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"You have a very good point well made. The scientific approach to risk is best. The tendency (perhaps from a religious upbringing) to associate bad things with pleasure should be resisted. Thanks. Be real people! Genital herpes is the same as cold sores yet one is an inconvenience and the other (genital herpes) strikes fear into the heart of others. Flu kills 12,000 people a year in the UK but, "I had the7 Flu " is worn as a badge of honour. No one will say "I had chlamydia and had no symptoms at all but when i found out I took one tablet and it went" No one dies of Chlamydia!!
Its the guilt associated with sex that makes STIs so scary. Its amazing that we still find it in 2016 on a swingers site.
Crazy isn't it! It's five tablets by the way not one
Depends what they give you. Lol! But when did they last cure a cold with 5 tablets??
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"Has anyone here ever caught anything from swinging or felt the need for a check up after a meeting?" We have never felt the need for a check up after a meet because if they looked or if we felt they were unsafe we wouldn't go there. We have regular monthly GUM checks but always play safe when swinging. | |||
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"I'm reassured that everyone on here is so sensible and considerate. And this is the reason why STDs are not spread far and wide in the UK. I did catch mouth ulcers from a meet that just involved kissing and serious face sitting/licking. But that was because it was winter and my immune system was a bit low. They disappeared after a couple of months once my mouth ecology got back into balance. " Hmmmmerpes | |||
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"You have a very good point well made. The scientific approach to risk is best. The tendency (perhaps from a religious upbringing) to associate bad things with pleasure should be resisted. Thanks. Be real people! Genital herpes is the same as cold sores yet one is an inconvenience and the other (genital herpes) strikes fear into the heart of others. Flu kills 12,000 people a year in the UK but, "I had the7 Flu " is worn as a badge of honour. No one will say "I had chlamydia and had no symptoms at all but when i found out I took one tablet and it went" No one dies of Chlamydia!!
Its the guilt associated with sex that makes STIs so scary. Its amazing that we still find it in 2016 on a swingers site.
Crazy isn't it! It's five tablets by the way not one
Depends what they give you. Lol! But when did they last cure a cold with 5 tablets??
Exactly,give me an sti any day of the week. Joke people "I don't want the flu any less than I want an sti! Trouble is it's harder to avoid and therefore less stigmatized as we're all prone to it regardless of what we do. I wouldn't meet someone if I knew they had flu and I certainly wouldn't shag them! Sexually transmitted infections and diseases if left undiagnosed and untreated can kill and or change your life forever. As far as I'm aware, once you have genital herpes you've got it for life. You are safe to have unprotected sex IF you are currently clear of it, but it's highly contagious and can reappear at ANY time! You may be single now and able to hide it. But it may make finding a future partner harder. Ghonnorea is becoming immune to antibiotics and therefore incurable and leads to quite a horrendous way to go. HIV which is now usually I minimal impact life long condition, if diagnosed early. Chlamydia often lies undiagnosed in women causing fertility problems. And those are a few.. Of tons, none of which are nice to have. I may not treat my body like a temple, I may be a thrillseeker. But I love my life, especially my willy! I may do questionable things with it, but I want to do that for as long and as much as I can! Without worrying if I've got a disease or not. Many of these things can be passed on by you as a CARRIER, including HIV. You don't have the sti yourself, but are capable of passing it on to others. So you have no idea at all and would probably be horrified if accused of passing one on. So as a mark of respect for yourself and others.. Go to a GUM clinic on a basis you're comfortable with. It's free, you can blag time off work, get free condoms and learn a thing or two. I find it impressive that people go, it's a badge of honor, or dishonor if you found out the hard way
Don't be a sore, crusty, pain in the arse.. For the rest of your life. | |||
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"I'm reassured that everyone on here is so sensible and considerate. And this is the reason why STDs are not spread far and wide in the UK. I did catch mouth ulcers from a meet that just involved kissing and serious face sitting/licking. But that was because it was winter and my immune system was a bit low. They disappeared after a couple of months once my mouth ecology got back into balance. " You can't catch mouth ulcers. | |||
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"You have a very good point well made. The scientific approach to risk is best. The tendency (perhaps from a religious upbringing) to associate bad things with pleasure should be resisted. Thanks. Be real people! Genital herpes is the same as cold sores yet one is an inconvenience and the other (genital herpes) strikes fear into the heart of others. Flu kills 12,000 people a year in the UK but, "I had the7 Flu " is worn as a badge of honour. No one will say "I had chlamydia and had no symptoms at all but when i found out I took one tablet and it went" No one dies of Chlamydia!!
Its the guilt associated with sex that makes STIs so scary. Its amazing that we still find it in 2016 on a swingers site.
Crazy isn't it! It's five tablets by the way not one
Depends what they give you. Lol! But when did they last cure a cold with 5 tablets??
Exactly,give me an sti any day of the week. Joke people
I don't want the flu any less than I want an sti! Trouble is it's harder to avoid and therefore less stigmatized as we're all prone to it regardless of what we do.
I wouldn't meet someone if I knew they had flu and I certainly wouldn't shag them!
Sexually transmitted infections and diseases if left undiagnosed and untreated can kill and or change your life forever.
As far as I'm aware, once you have genital herpes you've got it for life. You are safe to have unprotected sex IF you are currently clear of it, but it's highly contagious and can reappear at ANY time! You may be single now and able to hide it. But it may make finding a future partner harder.
Ghonnorea is becoming immune to antibiotics and therefore incurable and leads to quite a horrendous way to go.
HIV which is now usually I minimal impact life long condition, if diagnosed early.
Chlamydia often lies undiagnosed in women causing fertility problems.
And those are a few.. Of tons, none of which are nice to have.
I may not treat my body like a temple, I may be a thrillseeker. But I love my life, especially my willy! I may do questionable things with it, but I want to do that for as long and as much as I can! Without worrying if I've got a disease or not.
Many of these things can be passed on by you as a CARRIER, including HIV. You don't have the sti yourself, but are capable of passing it on to others. So you have no idea at all and would probably be horrified if accused of passing one on.
So as a mark of respect for yourself and others.. Go to a GUM clinic on a basis you're comfortable with. It's free, you can blag time off work, get free condoms and learn a thing or two. I find it impressive that people go, it's a badge of honor, or dishonor if you found out the hard way
Don't be a sore, crusty, pain in the arse.. For the rest of your life. "My sti education comes from army educational videos. They REALLY didn't want any of us catching stis, they found out the hard way, how debilitating it can be. So they scare the absolute shit out of you... I think it sunk in. | |||
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"I've never got an std but a girl I was seeing nearly got pregnant. That's the worst std xD" If that's your view, then you're right. That's your speed are a disease that just ruined three people's lives. That's worth keeping a condom on till you trust someone enough to deal with that situation like responsible adults would. Unplanned pregnancy can be the best thing that ever happens to some people. Totally unexpected joy. With a child, you get what you put in and you've compared them to a preventable disease. | |||
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"I've never got an std but a girl I was seeing nearly got pregnant. That's the worst std xD If that's your view, then you're right. That's your speed are a disease that just ruined three people's lives. That's worth keeping a condom on till you trust someone enough to deal with that situation like responsible adults would. Unplanned pregnancy can be the best thing that ever happens to some people. Totally unexpected joy. With a child, you get what you put in and you've compared them to a preventable disease. " Lol was just a joke. I don't plan on having kids until I've finished uni and have a stable job. Also, I didn't need to wear a condom because she preferred bareback and she said she was on the pill, then she told me that she forgot to take it | |||
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"Has anyone ever had a .... Influenza? COPD? Diabetes? Cihhosis of the liver? Small pox? Measles? Malaria? Ebola? Cancer? (Kills 1:5) A common cold ffs!!?????? All are scientifically proven to be more life threatening than treated STIs. (Quite why smokers wear condoms i cannot understand???) What is this paranoia about avoiding STIs when there are far more widespread life threatening risks out there that are accepted without thought? Rant over .... and chill .... "Flu.... I avoid it and people displaying symptoms Copd.... I avoid substances that may cause it where possible Diabetes .... while I don't know enough, I avoid being overweight and eat well... if I find out more I'll avoid it Cirrhosis.... I like a drink but try not to drink excessive amounts regularly to avoid it. Small pox.... I avoid Measles... had it ... doesn't that create immunity? Though someone tells me they have measles I'm in ok rush to cuddle them. Malaria ... immunised when last went to a country where immunisation was recommended Ebola.... I avoid places where Ebola is rife like the plague?? Cancer ... that too try not to expose myself to carcinogens... some sti's carry an increased risk. I think most of the conditions you mention are treated pretty seriously and certainly not "without thought" I find your post absolutely bonkers .... bonkers! | |||
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"Has anyone ever had a .... Influenza? COPD? Diabetes? Cihhosis of the liver? Small pox? Measles? Malaria? Ebola? Cancer? (Kills 1:5) A common cold ffs!!?????? All are scientifically proven to be more life threatening than treated STIs. (Quite why smokers wear condoms i cannot understand???) What is this paranoia about avoiding STIs when there are far more widespread life threatening risks out there that are accepted without thought? Rant over .... and chill ....
Flu.... I avoid it and people displaying symptoms
Copd.... I avoid substances that may cause it where possible
Diabetes .... while I don't know enough, I avoid being overweight and eat well... if I find out more I'll avoid it
Cirrhosis.... I like a drink but try not to drink excessive amounts regularly to avoid it.
Small pox.... I avoid
Measles... had it ... doesn't that create immunity? Though someone tells me they have measles I'm in ok rush to cuddle them.
Malaria ... immunised when last went to a country where immunisation was recommended
Ebola.... I avoid places where Ebola is rife like the plague??
Cancer ... that too try not to expose myself to carcinogens... some sti's carry an increased risk.
I think most of the conditions you mention are treated pretty seriously and certainly not "without thought"
I find your post absolutely bonkers .... bonkers!" | |||
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"Don't forget you can get std's through oral to not just bareback. So always go for regular checkups. The only safe sex is no sex" | |||
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"I've never got an std but a girl I was seeing nearly got pregnant. That's the worst std xD If that's your view, then you're right. That's your speed are a disease that just ruined three people's lives. That's worth keeping a condom on till you trust someone enough to deal with that situation like responsible adults would. Unplanned pregnancy can be the best thing that ever happens to some people. Totally unexpected joy. With a child, you get what you put in and you've compared them to a preventable disease. " Give the lad a break. Unplanned pregnancy could also be the worst thing to happen to someone and ruin their life. I'd rather have had chlamydia at 20. | |||
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"most swingers we meet have regular checks.and chams have people come in and test you there.its more likely to come from guys who go behind there wife gf back on here, and dont know there partners are doing the same with others so both carnt admit unfaithfulnes so never go to get a check together." Every married person I know on this site is scrupulous about getting tested. They have more to lose. | |||
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" Its the guilt associated with sex that makes STIs so scary. Its amazing that we still find it in 2016 on a swingers site. "No, it's the fact that HIV is incurable! | |||
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"Has anyone ever had a .... Influenza? COPD? Diabetes? Cihhosis of the liver? Small pox? Measles? Malaria? Ebola? Cancer? (Kills 1:5) A common cold ffs!!?????? All are scientifically proven to be more life threatening than treated STIs. (Quite why smokers wear condoms i cannot understand???) What is this paranoia about avoiding STIs when there are far more widespread life threatening risks out there that are accepted without thought? Rant over .... and chill ....
Flu.... I avoid it and people displaying symptoms
Copd.... I avoid substances that may cause it where possible
Diabetes .... while I don't know enough, I avoid being overweight and eat well... if I find out more I'll avoid it
Cirrhosis.... I like a drink but try not to drink excessive amounts regularly to avoid it.
Small pox.... I avoid
Measles... had it ... doesn't that create immunity? Though someone tells me they have measles I'm in ok rush to cuddle them.
Malaria ... immunised when last went to a country where immunisation was recommended
Ebola.... I avoid places where Ebola is rife like the plague??
Cancer ... that too try not to expose myself to carcinogens... some sti's carry an increased risk.
I think most of the conditions you mention are treated pretty seriously and certainly not "without thought"
I find your post absolutely bonkers .... bonkers!"Bonkers? Thank you!! You are so kind.
As you have obviously got these diseases well under control, along with presumably all the other non-STIs, I could do with some advice please.
As a starter how about the prevention of just two :-
Flu - This can, as i am sure you know, be caught from someone showing no symptoms, from infected droplets hanging in the air from a cough or sneeze that you did not witness of from contact with infected surfaces. (Lift button anyone?) So how do you do avoid it please? Gloves and mask 24/7? Do you not touch anyone? Sterilise your food?
COPD - I assume you never go to Cities? Never travel on a motorway? Stop breathing near traffic (especially diesels) or do you wear a filter mask 24/7?
Actually, my original point was why do we treat the minor STIs as seriously as we do when far more dangerous non-STI diseases are treated as part of life? You are obviously the exception to that. We can all learn from your health regime. | |||
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"I'm reassured that everyone on here is so sensible and considerate. And this is the reason why STDs are not spread far and wide in the UK. I did catch mouth ulcers from a meet that just involved kissing and serious face sitting/licking. But that was because it was winter and my immune system was a bit low. They disappeared after a couple of months once my mouth ecology got back into balance. You can't catch mouth ulcers. " This is exactly why people wrongly believe they dont have herpes. It can manifest as mouth ulcers, dry patches on your skin(anywhere!) as well as nasty painful blisters on your naughty bits. If people are worried about STIs then they should get better information rather than from posts on fab. Not saying that this post is all rubbish just go and find out all you can from experts. Herpes is for life...but I will bet that there are lots of coldsore sufferers on here who dont kiss and tell because they never imagine they will pass it on. Merry Kissmass | |||
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"Swingers always like to claim how health conscious they are...and yet, swinging has contributed the most to rises in STD's recently: https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/182718/Swingers-pose-STD-risk-to-all Just like everyone who acts super sanctimonious about "safe sex"." Swingers... Or relaxed attitude of entire populations towards sex? I get more sex from online dating sites than fab. | |||
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"Swingers always like to claim how health conscious they are...and yet, swinging has contributed the most to rises in STD's recently: https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/182718/Swingers-pose-STD-risk-to-all Just like everyone who acts super sanctimonious about "safe sex"." That piece is nearly seven years old and based on research abroad. Have no idea what their system for getting checked is like so hard to say if the findings would apply here. I had a nice chat with one of the staff last time I was at the clinic we go to and he said they see far bigger issues with the local student population and the risks they take when they're d*unk. | |||
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"Swingers always like to claim how health conscious they are...and yet, swinging has contributed the most to rises in STD's recently: https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/182718/Swingers-pose-STD-risk-to-all Just like everyone who acts super sanctimonious about "safe sex". That piece is nearly seven years old and based on research abroad. Have no idea what their system for getting checked is like so hard to say if the findings would apply here. I had a nice chat with one of the staff last time I was at the clinic we go to and he said they see far bigger issues with the local student population and the risks they take when they're d*unk. " | |||
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"Has anyone ever had a .... Influenza? COPD? Diabetes? Cihhosis of the liver? Small pox? Measles? Malaria? Ebola? Cancer? (Kills 1:5) A common cold ffs!!?????? All are scientifically proven to be more life threatening than treated STIs. (Quite why smokers wear condoms i cannot understand???) What is this paranoia about avoiding STIs when there are far more widespread life threatening risks out there that are accepted without thought? Rant over .... and chill .... "When smoking in only wear a condom when it's raining. Keeps the cigarette from getting wet lol. Sorry had to put that in there x | |||
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"I've never got an std but a girl I was seeing nearly got pregnant. That's the worst std xD" How can a woman nearly get pregnant? | |||
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"I've never got an std but a girl I was seeing nearly got pregnant. That's the worst std xD How can a woman nearly get pregnant?" Lmao Thanks I just spat coffee over the dog | |||
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"I've never got an std but a girl I was seeing nearly got pregnant. That's the worst std xD How can a woman nearly get pregnant?" She did a handstand just as the sperm was making its final approach? | |||
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"Has anyone ever had a .... Influenza? COPD? Diabetes? Cihhosis of the liver? Small pox? Measles? Malaria? Ebola? Cancer? (Kills 1:5) A common cold ffs!!?????? All are scientifically proven to be more life threatening than treated STIs. (Quite why smokers wear condoms i cannot understand???) What is this paranoia about avoiding STIs when there are far more widespread life threatening risks out there that are accepted without thought? Rant over .... and chill ....
Flu.... I avoid it and people displaying symptoms
Copd.... I avoid substances that may cause it where possible
Diabetes .... while I don't know enough, I avoid being overweight and eat well... if I find out more I'll avoid it
Cirrhosis.... I like a drink but try not to drink excessive amounts regularly to avoid it.
Small pox.... I avoid
Measles... had it ... doesn't that create immunity? Though someone tells me they have measles I'm in ok rush to cuddle them.
Malaria ... immunised when last went to a country where immunisation was recommended
Ebola.... I avoid places where Ebola is rife like the plague??
Cancer ... that too try not to expose myself to carcinogens... some sti's carry an increased risk.
I think most of the conditions you mention are treated pretty seriously and certainly not "without thought"
I find your post absolutely bonkers .... bonkers!
Bonkers? Thank you!! You are so kind.
As you have obviously got these diseases well under control, along with presumably all the other non-STIs, I could do with some advice please.
As a starter how about the prevention of just two :-
Flu - This can, as i am sure you know, be caught from someone showing no symptoms, from infected droplets hanging in the air from a cough or sneeze that you did not witness of from contact with infected surfaces. (Lift button anyone?) So how do you do avoid it please? Gloves and mask 24/7? Do you not touch anyone? Sterilise your food?
COPD - I assume you never go to Cities? Never travel on a motorway? Stop breathing near traffic (especially diesels) or do you wear a filter mask 24/7?
Actually, my original point was why do we treat the minor STIs as seriously as we do when far more dangerous non-STI diseases are treated as part of life? You are obviously the exception to that. We can all learn from your health regime. "I don't have them under control.... I attempt to control all factors that I can... such as flu. I avoid people I know have flu, I'm not paranoid about it but exhibit reasonable controls where possible. COPD I wouldn't stand behind a running diese, or any other car, I would avoid the fumes, I avoid smoke filled atmospheres where possible, I could go on.... None of these controls affects my life in any discernible fashion.. they're simply common sense practicable measures. I'm pretty sure you check a road before crossing... its just like that.... you check to control the risk ... it doesn't mean you'll never be run over... but simple controls reduce the risk. Is that so hard to understand?... far from being the exception I guarantee that you and everyone reading this, no, using the site take many simple measures in each and every day to reduce risks to your health. Tomorrow I may be run over by a bus and these steps may be in vain... but where I can I will! I hope this has simplified my reply! | |||
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"As a bit of a stats geek I have no problem with people who avoid all risks avoiding bareback - it's a risk, although smaller than many others, and an avoidable one at that so it makes sense to be safe Conversely I also have no problem with people who go to creampie gangbangs who know the risk but choose to take it for pleasure, just as some smokers know full well the health implications but continue - it's a personal choice, not one I'd probably choose but still a choice The issue I have is with people who chooseto take risks e.g. smoking, overeating etc and then lecture others on the avoidance of risks statistically smaller than the ones they take - that doesn't sit right to me " I'm not a stats geek but while the statistics of transmission of an sti, whether knowingly infected or not, are definitely far higher than someone catching obesity or for a considerate smoker to pass on the diseases and conditions associated with it! | |||
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"I'm reassured that everyone on here is so sensible and considerate. And this is the reason why STDs are not spread far and wide in the UK. I did catch mouth ulcers from a meet that just involved kissing and serious face sitting/licking. But that was because it was winter and my immune system was a bit low. They disappeared after a couple of months once my mouth ecology got back into balance. You can't catch mouth ulcers. This is exactly why people wrongly believe they dont have herpes. It can manifest as mouth ulcers, dry patches on your skin(anywhere!) as well as nasty painful blisters on your naughty bits. If people are worried about STIs then they should get better information rather than from posts on fab. Not saying that this post is all rubbish just go and find out all you can from experts. Herpes is for life...but I will bet that there are lots of coldsore sufferers on here who dont kiss and tell because they never imagine they will pass it on. Merry Kissmass" I get coldsores. Have done since I was a child. Ergo I have herpes. I don't bother telling people about this, not because I "never imagine I will pass it on" but because approximately 2/3 of people also carry the virus. I don't meet with a cold sore and have cancelled on people for that reason before, but I'm not about to start wearing a scarlet H for something it's likely they already have too. | |||
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"I'm reassured that everyone on here is so sensible and considerate. And this is the reason why STDs are not spread far and wide in the UK. I did catch mouth ulcers from a meet that just involved kissing and serious face sitting/licking. But that was because it was winter and my immune system was a bit low. They disappeared after a couple of months once my mouth ecology got back into balance. You can't catch mouth ulcers. This is exactly why people wrongly believe they dont have herpes. It can manifest as mouth ulcers, dry patches on your skin(anywhere!) as well as nasty painful blisters on your naughty bits. If people are worried about STIs then they should get better information rather than from posts on fab. Not saying that this post is all rubbish just go and find out all you can from experts. Herpes is for life...but I will bet that there are lots of coldsore sufferers on here who dont kiss and tell because they never imagine they will pass it on. Merry Kissmass I get coldsores. Have done since I was a child. Ergo I have herpes. I don't bother telling people about this, not because I "never imagine I will pass it on" but because approximately 2/3 of people also carry the virus. I don't meet with a cold sore and have cancelled on people for that reason before, but I'm not about to start wearing a scarlet H for something it's likely they already have too. " I've never had a cold sore | |||
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"I'm reassured that everyone on here is so sensible and considerate. And this is the reason why STDs are not spread far and wide in the UK. I did catch mouth ulcers from a meet that just involved kissing and serious face sitting/licking. But that was because it was winter and my immune system was a bit low. They disappeared after a couple of months once my mouth ecology got back into balance. You can't catch mouth ulcers. This is exactly why people wrongly believe they dont have herpes. It can manifest as mouth ulcers, dry patches on your skin(anywhere!) as well as nasty painful blisters on your naughty bits. If people are worried about STIs then they should get better information rather than from posts on fab. Not saying that this post is all rubbish just go and find out all you can from experts. Herpes is for life...but I will bet that there are lots of coldsore sufferers on here who dont kiss and tell because they never imagine they will pass it on. Merry Kissmass I get coldsores. Have done since I was a child. Ergo I have herpes. I don't bother telling people about this, not because I "never imagine I will pass it on" but because approximately 2/3 of people also carry the virus. I don't meet with a cold sore and have cancelled on people for that reason before, but I'm not about to start wearing a scarlet H for something it's likely they already have too. I've never had a cold sore " You may still carry the virus without symptoms, loads of people do. | |||
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"I'm reassured that everyone on here is so sensible and considerate. And this is the reason why STDs are not spread far and wide in the UK. I did catch mouth ulcers from a meet that just involved kissing and serious face sitting/licking. But that was because it was winter and my immune system was a bit low. They disappeared after a couple of months once my mouth ecology got back into balance. You can't catch mouth ulcers. This is exactly why people wrongly believe they dont have herpes. It can manifest as mouth ulcers, dry patches on your skin(anywhere!) as well as nasty painful blisters on your naughty bits. If people are worried about STIs then they should get better information rather than from posts on fab. Not saying that this post is all rubbish just go and find out all you can from experts. Herpes is for life...but I will bet that there are lots of coldsore sufferers on here who dont kiss and tell because they never imagine they will pass it on. Merry Kissmass I get coldsores. Have done since I was a child. Ergo I have herpes. I don't bother telling people about this, not because I "never imagine I will pass it on" but because approximately 2/3 of people also carry the virus. I don't meet with a cold sore and have cancelled on people for that reason before, but I'm not about to start wearing a scarlet H for something it's likely they already have too. I've never had a cold sore You may still carry the virus without symptoms, loads of people do. " Cold sores are herpes right ? Does that mean can have genital as well and no symptoms ... but surely you would tell someone you carry it ? | |||
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"I'm reassured that everyone on here is so sensible and considerate. And this is the reason why STDs are not spread far and wide in the UK. I did catch mouth ulcers from a meet that just involved kissing and serious face sitting/licking. But that was because it was winter and my immune system was a bit low. They disappeared after a couple of months once my mouth ecology got back into balance. You can't catch mouth ulcers. This is exactly why people wrongly believe they dont have herpes. It can manifest as mouth ulcers, dry patches on your skin(anywhere!) as well as nasty painful blisters on your naughty bits. If people are worried about STIs then they should get better information rather than from posts on fab. Not saying that this post is all rubbish just go and find out all you can from experts. Herpes is for life...but I will bet that there are lots of coldsore sufferers on here who dont kiss and tell because they never imagine they will pass it on. Merry Kissmass I get coldsores. Have done since I was a child. Ergo I have herpes. I don't bother telling people about this, not because I "never imagine I will pass it on" but because approximately 2/3 of people also carry the virus. I don't meet with a cold sore and have cancelled on people for that reason before, but I'm not about to start wearing a scarlet H for something it's likely they already have too. I've never had a cold sore You may still carry the virus without symptoms, loads of people do. Cold sores are herpes right ? Does that mean can have genital as well and no symptoms ... but surely you would tell someone you carry it ? " You can indeed have genital herpes and have no symptoms. It's the same virus. No, I don't tell people that I have herpes because, as I said, it's statistically likely they already carry the virus too, even if they don't know because they've never had any symptoms. That's the chance people take. I'm not going to start saying to people "oh by the way, before we have sex, I had a cold sore 3 months ago." | |||
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I'm not trying to normalise it...but it's a fact that it can be caused by the same virus. Simplex 1 can be manifested in genital blisters as well as cold sores, there isn't a clear oral/genital division any more. People who are shitting themselves over genital herpes should know that. "The assumtion is that, by the time the majority of people reach adulthood, they will have been exposed to herpes 1. It is more normal to carry a herpes group virus than to never have encountered one. Your body responds and keeps the little blighters in check. However for those of us who were 'herpes virgins' well into adulthood it is a nasty shock when you catch it from an unsuspecting partner. I would love the stigma and all the panic to go away and for everyone to see it is not something to be scared of. Maybe one day GUM clinics will do blood tests and all the 'clean' people will learn the truth. | |||
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"are GUM clinics held in local drs surgeries or just hospitals? please don't bash me , i am still fairly new to this life and have only ever played using condoms, but there has been plenty said on here to make me think x" Varies depending on where you live I think. My local is a stand alone clinic for sexual health, contraception etc so I go there for things like smear tests as well as STD testing. Have a google and see what's available in your area. I've always found them really helpful and non judgemental. | |||
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"are GUM clinics held in local drs surgeries or just hospitals? please don't bash me , i am still fairly new to this life and have only ever played using condoms, but there has been plenty said on here to make me think x" Just check your local NHS website. You can usually get a timetable of local clinics there. Some are in hospitals, some in health centres. In general it is a waste of time going to your GP. Better to go to a clinic. Some run all female sessions if you are feeling a bit nervous that might be an option. They are usually nice kind people and very helpful. | |||
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"are GUM clinics held in local drs surgeries or just hospitals? please don't bash me , i am still fairly new to this life and have only ever played using condoms, but there has been plenty said on here to make me think x Just check your local NHS website. You can usually get a timetable of local clinics there. Some are in hospitals, some in health centres. In general it is a waste of time going to your GP. Better to go to a clinic. Some run all female sessions if you are feeling a bit nervous that might be an option. They are usually nice kind people and very helpful." thank you x | |||
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"are GUM clinics held in local drs surgeries or just hospitals? please don't bash me , i am still fairly new to this life and have only ever played using condoms, but there has been plenty said on here to make me think x Varies depending on where you live I think. My local is a stand alone clinic for sexual health, contraception etc so I go there for things like smear tests as well as STD testing. Have a google and see what's available in your area. I've always found them really helpful and non judgemental. " thank you | |||
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"As someone who works in the sexual health field I'm all for trying to normalise genital herpes. However it's important to realise there can be a difference between mouth ulcers and genital ulcers. http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs400/en/
I'm not trying to normalise it...but it's a fact that it can be caused by the same virus. Simplex 1 can be manifested in genital blisters as well as cold sores, there isn't a clear oral/genital division any more. People who are shitting themselves over genital herpes should know that.
The assumtion is that, by the time the majority of people reach adulthood, they will have been exposed to herpes 1. It is more normal to carry a herpes group virus than to never have encountered one. Your body responds and keeps the little blighters in check. However for those of us who were 'herpes virgins' well into adulthood it is a nasty shock when you catch it from an unsuspecting partner. I would love the stigma and all the panic to go away and for everyone to see it is not something to be scared of. Maybe one day GUM clinics will do blood tests and all the 'clean' people will learn the truth."I have had blood tees at my clinic ... | |||
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"As someone who works in the sexual health field I'm all for trying to normalise genital herpes. However it's important to realise there can be a difference between mouth ulcers and genital ulcers. http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs400/en/
I'm not trying to normalise it...but it's a fact that it can be caused by the same virus. Simplex 1 can be manifested in genital blisters as well as cold sores, there isn't a clear oral/genital division any more. People who are shitting themselves over genital herpes should know that.
The assumtion is that, by the time the majority of people reach adulthood, they will have been exposed to herpes 1. It is more normal to carry a herpes group virus than to never have encountered one. Your body responds and keeps the little blighters in check. However for those of us who were 'herpes virgins' well into adulthood it is a nasty shock when you catch it from an unsuspecting partner. I would love the stigma and all the panic to go away and for everyone to see it is not something to be scared of. Maybe one day GUM clinics will do blood tests and all the 'clean' people will learn the truth.
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"Has anyone ever had a .... Influenza? COPD? Diabetes? Cihhosis of the liver? Small pox? Measles? Malaria? Ebola? Cancer? (Kills 1:5) A common cold ffs!!?????? All are scientifically proven to be more life threatening than treated STIs. (Quite why smokers wear condoms i cannot understand???) What is this paranoia about avoiding STIs when there are far more widespread life threatening risks out there that are accepted without thought? Rant over .... and chill .... "At last a real understanding of risk!!! | |||
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"Has anyone ever had a .... Influenza? COPD? Diabetes? Cihhosis of the liver? Small pox? Measles? Malaria? Ebola? Cancer? (Kills 1:5) A common cold ffs!!?????? All are scientifically proven to be more life threatening than treated STIs. (Quite why smokers wear condoms i cannot understand???) What is this paranoia about avoiding STIs when there are far more widespread life threatening risks out there that are accepted without thought? Rant over .... and chill ....
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I'm not trying to normalise it...but it's a fact that it can be caused by the same virus. Simplex 1 can be manifested in genital blisters as well as cold sores, there isn't a clear oral/genital division any more. People who are shitting themselves over genital herpes should know that. "Do you view genital herpes as more significant than cold sores? | |||
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"Has anyone ever had a .... Influenza? COPD? Diabetes? Cihhosis of the liver? Small pox? Measles? Malaria? Ebola? Cancer? (Kills 1:5) A common cold ffs!!?????? All are scientifically proven to be more life threatening than treated STIs. (Quite why smokers wear condoms i cannot understand???) What is this paranoia about avoiding STIs when there are far more widespread life threatening risks out there that are accepted without thought? Rant over .... and chill ....
Flu.... I avoid it and people displaying symptoms
Copd.... I avoid substances that may cause it where possible
Diabetes .... while I don't know enough, I avoid being overweight and eat well... if I find out more I'll avoid it
Cirrhosis.... I like a drink but try not to drink excessive amounts regularly to avoid it.
Small pox.... I avoid
Measles... had it ... doesn't that create immunity? Though someone tells me they have measles I'm in ok rush to cuddle them.
Malaria ... immunised when last went to a country where immunisation was recommended
Ebola.... I avoid places where Ebola is rife like the plague??
Cancer ... that too try not to expose myself to carcinogens... some sti's carry an increased risk.
I think most of the conditions you mention are treated pretty seriously and certainly not "without thought"
I find your post absolutely bonkers .... bonkers!"Smallpox - you must try really hard not to avoid it, it's not in the wild so none of us have experienced it (ok, it was last seen in the 70s so technically many of us could have, but in reality...). Malaria - no, you weren't vaccinated, no such thing. | |||
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"Has anyone ever had a .... Influenza? COPD? Diabetes? Cihhosis of the liver? Small pox? Measles? Malaria? Ebola? Cancer? (Kills 1:5) A common cold ffs!!?????? All are scientifically proven to be more life threatening than treated STIs. (Quite why smokers wear condoms i cannot understand???) What is this paranoia about avoiding STIs when there are far more widespread life threatening risks out there that are accepted without thought? Rant over .... and chill ....
Flu.... I avoid it and people displaying symptoms
Copd.... I avoid substances that may cause it where possible
Diabetes .... while I don't know enough, I avoid being overweight and eat well... if I find out more I'll avoid it
Cirrhosis.... I like a drink but try not to drink excessive amounts regularly to avoid it.
Small pox.... I avoid
Measles... had it ... doesn't that create immunity? Though someone tells me they have measles I'm in ok rush to cuddle them.
Malaria ... immunised when last went to a country where immunisation was recommended
Ebola.... I avoid places where Ebola is rife like the plague??
Cancer ... that too try not to expose myself to carcinogens... some sti's carry an increased risk.
I think most of the conditions you mention are treated pretty seriously and certainly not "without thought"
I find your post absolutely bonkers .... bonkers!
Smallpox - you must try really hard not to avoid it, it's not in the wild so none of us have experienced it (ok, it was last seen in the 70s so technically many of us could have, but in reality...).
Malaria - no, you weren't vaccinated, no such thing."Ok the immunisation I referred to was inaccurate ... I was aware of a risk due to travel and I sought antimalarial medication! ... well done! "I avoid" as my response to smallpox could suggest that I wasn't concerned and took no serious precautions .... though if someone made me aware of a risk relating to it.... I would avoid. As there is no current risk, I pay it no attention. Thanks for your addition it has added an awful lot. | |||
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"Has anyone ever had a .... Influenza? COPD? Diabetes? Cihhosis of the liver? Small pox? Measles? Malaria? Ebola? Cancer? (Kills 1:5) A common cold ffs!!?????? All are scientifically proven to be more life threatening than treated STIs. (Quite why smokers wear condoms i cannot understand???) What is this paranoia about avoiding STIs when there are far more widespread life threatening risks out there that are accepted without thought? Rant over .... and chill ....
Flu.... I avoid it and people displaying symptoms
Copd.... I avoid substances that may cause it where possible
Diabetes .... while I don't know enough, I avoid being overweight and eat well... if I find out more I'll avoid it
Cirrhosis.... I like a drink but try not to drink excessive amounts regularly to avoid it.
Small pox.... I avoid
Measles... had it ... doesn't that create immunity? Though someone tells me they have measles I'm in ok rush to cuddle them.
Malaria ... immunised when last went to a country where immunisation was recommended
Ebola.... I avoid places where Ebola is rife like the plague??
Cancer ... that too try not to expose myself to carcinogens... some sti's carry an increased risk.
I think most of the conditions you mention are treated pretty seriously and certainly not "without thought"
I find your post absolutely bonkers .... bonkers!
Bonkers? Thank you!! You are so kind.
As you have obviously got these diseases well under control, along with presumably all the other non-STIs, I could do with some advice please.
As a starter how about the prevention of just two :-
Flu - This can, as i am sure you know, be caught from someone showing no symptoms, from infected droplets hanging in the air from a cough or sneeze that you did not witness of from contact with infected surfaces. (Lift button anyone?) So how do you do avoid it please? Gloves and mask 24/7? Do you not touch anyone? Sterilise your food?
COPD - I assume you never go to Cities? Never travel on a motorway? Stop breathing near traffic (especially diesels) or do you wear a filter mask 24/7?
Actually, my original point was why do we treat the minor STIs as seriously as we do when far more dangerous non-STI diseases are treated as part of life? You are obviously the exception to that. We can all learn from your health regime.
I don't have them under control.... I attempt to control all factors that I can... such as flu. I avoid people I know have flu, I'm not paranoid about it but exhibit reasonable controls where possible.
COPD I wouldn't stand behind a running diese, or any other car, I would avoid the fumes, I avoid smoke filled atmospheres where possible, I could go on....
None of these controls affects my life in any discernible fashion.. they're simply common sense practicable measures. I'm pretty sure you check a road before crossing... its just like that.... you check to control the risk ... it doesn't mean you'll never be run over... but simple controls reduce the risk.
Is that so hard to understand?... far from being the exception I guarantee that you and everyone reading this, no, using the site take many simple measures in each and every day to reduce risks to your health.
Tomorrow I may be run over by a bus and these steps may be in vain... but where I can I will!
I hope this has simplified my reply!"Ah! Now we are getting there!
So, focus on flu, you obviously avoid those coughing and sneezing; sensible idea. That in the same way as barebackers would avoid people wearing an "I have chlamydia and gonorrhea" badge.
However, you will wear a condom whether or not the sexual partner admits to a STI. Yet I am sure you would happily kiss a pretty girl at the Xmas party without testing her viral load. Even though she could have an incurable disease that kills 12,000 a year in the UK alone (ie. Influenza).
Can you understand now where i am coming from?
And to be clear, people can do whatever they wish to avoid STIs, or not; their choice. I just like to see a more realistic view of STIs and the risks associated with them.
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"are GUM clinics held in local drs surgeries or just hospitals? please don't bash me , i am still fairly new to this life and have only ever played using condoms, but there has been plenty said on here to make me think x Just check your local NHS website. You can usually get a timetable of local clinics there. Some are in hospitals, some in health centres. In general it is a waste of time going to your GP. Better to go to a clinic. Some run all female sessions if you are feeling a bit nervous that might be an option. They are usually nice kind people and very helpful.thank you x" My local one is totally separate from Hospital or any other grounds. From the outside it looks like any other clinic. The letters GUM are visible, but like I said - nobody should be ashamed of going in. I had a female doctor, who was awesome with me. Really put me at ease, as I was very embarrassed at admitting I was a swinger. I initially went because I was paranoid about an unexplained body rash! Went on Google and Convinced myself I had something sex related, probably HIV! She said it would be a good idea to check for everything, so we did. Then told me she sees lots of swingers on a regular basis. That if I enjoyed it, perhaps I should come more often too. So I go. And get free condoms, afternoon of work, browsing fab to see if anyone's nearby
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"are GUM clinics held in local drs surgeries or just hospitals? please don't bash me , i am still fairly new to this life and have only ever played using condoms, but there has been plenty said on here to make me think x Just check your local NHS website. You can usually get a timetable of local clinics there. Some are in hospitals, some in health centres. In general it is a waste of time going to your GP. Better to go to a clinic. Some run all female sessions if you are feeling a bit nervous that might be an option. They are usually nice kind people and very helpful.thank you x My local one is totally separate from Hospital or any other grounds. From the outside it looks like any other clinic. The letters GUM are visible, but like I said - nobody should be ashamed of going in. I had a female doctor, who was awesome with me. Really put me at ease, as I was very embarrassed at admitting I was a swinger. I initially went because I was paranoid about an unexplained body rash! Went on Google and Convinced myself I had something sex related, probably HIV! She said it would be a good idea to check for everything, so we did. Then told me she sees lots of swingers on a regular basis. That if I enjoyed it, perhaps I should come more often too. So I go. And get free condoms, afternoon of work, browsing fab to see if anyone's nearby
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"Has anyone ever had a .... Influenza? COPD? Diabetes? Cihhosis of the liver? Small pox? Measles? Malaria? Ebola? Cancer? (Kills 1:5) A common cold ffs!!?????? All are scientifically proven to be more life threatening than treated STIs. (Quite why smokers wear condoms i cannot understand???) What is this paranoia about avoiding STIs when there are far more widespread life threatening risks out there that are accepted without thought? Rant over .... and chill ....
Flu.... I avoid it and people displaying symptoms
Copd.... I avoid substances that may cause it where possible
Diabetes .... while I don't know enough, I avoid being overweight and eat well... if I find out more I'll avoid it
Cirrhosis.... I like a drink but try not to drink excessive amounts regularly to avoid it.
Small pox.... I avoid
Measles... had it ... doesn't that create immunity? Though someone tells me they have measles I'm in ok rush to cuddle them.
Malaria ... immunised when last went to a country where immunisation was recommended
Ebola.... I avoid places where Ebola is rife like the plague??
Cancer ... that too try not to expose myself to carcinogens... some sti's carry an increased risk.
I think most of the conditions you mention are treated pretty seriously and certainly not "without thought"
I find your post absolutely bonkers .... bonkers!
Bonkers? Thank you!! You are so kind.
As you have obviously got these diseases well under control, along with presumably all the other non-STIs, I could do with some advice please.
As a starter how about the prevention of just two :-
Flu - This can, as i am sure you know, be caught from someone showing no symptoms, from infected droplets hanging in the air from a cough or sneeze that you did not witness of from contact with infected surfaces. (Lift button anyone?) So how do you do avoid it please? Gloves and mask 24/7? Do you not touch anyone? Sterilise your food?
COPD - I assume you never go to Cities? Never travel on a motorway? Stop breathing near traffic (especially diesels) or do you wear a filter mask 24/7?
Actually, my original point was why do we treat the minor STIs as seriously as we do when far more dangerous non-STI diseases are treated as part of life? You are obviously the exception to that. We can all learn from your health regime.
I don't have them under control.... I attempt to control all factors that I can... such as flu. I avoid people I know have flu, I'm not paranoid about it but exhibit reasonable controls where possible.
COPD I wouldn't stand behind a running diese, or any other car, I would avoid the fumes, I avoid smoke filled atmospheres where possible, I could go on....
None of these controls affects my life in any discernible fashion.. they're simply common sense practicable measures. I'm pretty sure you check a road before crossing... its just like that.... you check to control the risk ... it doesn't mean you'll never be run over... but simple controls reduce the risk.
Is that so hard to understand?... far from being the exception I guarantee that you and everyone reading this, no, using the site take many simple measures in each and every day to reduce risks to your health.
Tomorrow I may be run over by a bus and these steps may be in vain... but where I can I will!
I hope this has simplified my reply!
Ah! Now we are getting there!
So, focus on flu, you obviously avoid those coughing and sneezing; sensible idea. That in the same way as barebackers would avoid people wearing an "I have chlamydia and gonorrhea" badge.
However, you will wear a condom whether or not the sexual partner admits to a STI. Yet I am sure you would happily kiss a pretty girl at the Xmas party without testing her viral load. Even though she could have an incurable disease that kills 12,000 a year in the UK alone (ie. Influenza).
Can you understand now where i am coming from?
And to be clear, people can do whatever they wish to avoid STIs, or not; their choice. I just like to see a more realistic view of STIs and the risks associated with them.
"But nobody was losing their shit in the first place. We were talking. Good advice was being offered, asked and given. Then all of a sudden.. STIs are nothing, they are curable, flu is worse. Why the shame? You may be statistically correct, but you came across "Don't worry, do whatever" Which isn't great advice. None of the STIs are pleasant, many hurt, many of us are ashamed and or embarrassed about it. There are a lot of good things about getting checked up, whether you have something or not. Why would you want to deter people from caring about that? Being able to prove you're clean shows you're no idiot, that you care and respect yourself and other people. Would you rather be with someone like that? | |||
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"Has anyone ever had a .... Influenza? COPD? Diabetes? Cihhosis of the liver? Small pox? Measles? Malaria? Ebola? Cancer? (Kills 1:5) A common cold ffs!!?????? All are scientifically proven to be more life threatening than treated STIs. (Quite why smokers wear condoms i cannot understand???) What is this paranoia about avoiding STIs when there are far more widespread life threatening risks out there that are accepted without thought? Rant over .... and chill ....
Flu.... I avoid it and people displaying symptoms
Copd.... I avoid substances that may cause it where possible
Diabetes .... while I don't know enough, I avoid being overweight and eat well... if I find out more I'll avoid it
Cirrhosis.... I like a drink but try not to drink excessive amounts regularly to avoid it.
Small pox.... I avoid
Measles... had it ... doesn't that create immunity? Though someone tells me they have measles I'm in ok rush to cuddle them.
Malaria ... immunised when last went to a country where immunisation was recommended
Ebola.... I avoid places where Ebola is rife like the plague??
Cancer ... that too try not to expose myself to carcinogens... some sti's carry an increased risk.
I think most of the conditions you mention are treated pretty seriously and certainly not "without thought"
I find your post absolutely bonkers .... bonkers!
Bonkers? Thank you!! You are so kind.
As you have obviously got these diseases well under control, along with presumably all the other non-STIs, I could do with some advice please.
As a starter how about the prevention of just two :-
Flu - This can, as i am sure you know, be caught from someone showing no symptoms, from infected droplets hanging in the air from a cough or sneeze that you did not witness of from contact with infected surfaces. (Lift button anyone?) So how do you do avoid it please? Gloves and mask 24/7? Do you not touch anyone? Sterilise your food?
COPD - I assume you never go to Cities? Never travel on a motorway? Stop breathing near traffic (especially diesels) or do you wear a filter mask 24/7?
Actually, my original point was why do we treat the minor STIs as seriously as we do when far more dangerous non-STI diseases are treated as part of life? You are obviously the exception to that. We can all learn from your health regime.
I don't have them under control.... I attempt to control all factors that I can... such as flu. I avoid people I know have flu, I'm not paranoid about it but exhibit reasonable controls where possible.
COPD I wouldn't stand behind a running diese, or any other car, I would avoid the fumes, I avoid smoke filled atmospheres where possible, I could go on....
None of these controls affects my life in any discernible fashion.. they're simply common sense practicable measures. I'm pretty sure you check a road before crossing... its just like that.... you check to control the risk ... it doesn't mean you'll never be run over... but simple controls reduce the risk.
Is that so hard to understand?... far from being the exception I guarantee that you and everyone reading this, no, using the site take many simple measures in each and every day to reduce risks to your health.
Tomorrow I may be run over by a bus and these steps may be in vain... but where I can I will!
I hope this has simplified my reply!
Ah! Now we are getting there!
So, focus on flu, you obviously avoid those coughing and sneezing; sensible idea. That in the same way as barebackers would avoid people wearing an "I have chlamydia and gonorrhea" badge.
However, you will wear a condom whether or not the sexual partner admits to a STI. Yet I am sure you would happily kiss a pretty girl at the Xmas party without testing her viral load. Even though she could have an incurable disease that kills 12,000 a year in the UK alone (ie. Influenza).
Can you understand now where i am coming from?
And to be clear, people can do whatever they wish to avoid STIs, or not; their choice. I just like to see a more realistic view of STIs and the risks associated with them.
"Let's focus on flu... of the 12000 you quote without reference, how many of those deaths were directly attributable to flu, how many cases were underlying illnesses resulting in a compromised immune response? The NHS does focus massive amounts of resource on providing flu vaccinations targeted at the higher risk groups. For the majority, the effects of flu are short term and non debilitating. The many strains of flu, combined with its ease of transmission make it very hard to control. The inconvenience of wearing some sort of head condom to prevent its spread would besomewhat problematic. So I'll stick, for the moment, to my reasonable controls to reduce the risk. If I fall into one of the groups at risk I'll step up those controls. The chlamydia and gonorrhoea badges I've never seen nor, I imagine, have you! An infected person may know or not and may not display symptoms, while no precaution is 100% the control is quite easy to manage during a relatively short term activity. If I could prevent a flu infection by wearing, let's say a copper bangle on my wrist for an hour a day over winter I would. By the way! The pretty girl.... what incurable disease? Sorry ... checked back (ie influenza) I know many people who have had flu myself included and all have recovered! | |||
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