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"It is Thursday " Don't look at me, I've been moved sideways to Bum Thread Co-Ordinator. | |||
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"Can't figure out why people take such risk when meeting people who are complete strangers off the internet. " ...and that my friend, is what EVERYONE outside the lifestyle thinks about us on here! Stop being so sanctimonious about other people's lifestyle choices and enjoy playing how you wish! | |||
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"Can't figure out why people take such risk when meeting people who are complete strangers off the internet. " I don't understand lots of things people do or like on this site (and some peopel won't understand some of mine/ ours) - but it's everyone's own choice to do what they want - and also to reject someone for what they do. No feedback necessary - each to their own. Move on to the next profile if you don't like something - plenty to choose from | |||
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"Can't figure out why people take such risk when meeting people who are complete strangers off the internet. I don't understand lots of things people do or like on this site (and some peopel won't understand some of mine/ ours) - but it's everyone's own choice to do what they want - and also to reject someone for what they do. No feedback necessary - each to their own. Move on to the next profile if you don't like something - plenty to choose from " Ta! Saved me the effort. I don't, but hey, some do. | |||
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"Can't figure out why people take such risk when meeting people who are complete strangers off the internet. ...and that my friend, is what EVERYONE outside the lifestyle thinks about us on here! Stop being so sanctimonious about other people's lifestyle choices and enjoy playing how you wish! " You said what I wanted too... I nearly posted on the why two single profiles that some have one for the time.. I don't judge, but there are things I don't understand the thrill... The op mentions impregnation... now that is far from about talking risks, from the small bits I've read on this the idea is to have a baby... and not many risk giving a child a poor start.. But as to why... because its there choices, It's natural... It's better... and they want too... you then have the choice if or not you play with them. A girl I talk to on here is into creampie gangbangs.. and you know... everyone of her verifications is from guys with safe sex ticked, and more than half say safe sex only in the profile... and I know full well she only does bare... to me she's not doing anything wrong... she's up front, honest and everyone knows... But those men... well how many would play if they knew they were happy to bareback... Oh and yes I wish I could do as she does but common sense prevails for now . Katie x | |||
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"most people who are anti-bareback are usually game on for oral... so if someone is prepared to stick a potentially unknown history set of genitalia in their mouth, ingest unknown fluids and have intimate contact with got knows what on the surface of persons skin (or mouths for that matter!), why are they suddenly so insistent on it then not being bareback after that... :S Wolf :S" Because it's far far more difficult to catch AIDS\HIV etc from oral sex compared to unprotected penetration sex. Please, I do hope your knowledge about the transition of sexually transmitted diseases is better than that, being a member on a sex site | |||
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"Can't figure out why people take such risk when meeting people who are complete strangers off the internet. ...and that my friend, is what EVERYONE outside the lifestyle thinks about us on here! Stop being so sanctimonious about other people's lifestyle choices and enjoy playing how you wish! " | |||
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"What I said wasn't sanctimonious to anyone... Can't figure out why people take such risk " Oh?!! Must be open to interpretation then. | |||
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"Can't figure out why people take such risk when meeting people who are complete strangers off the internet. Fair enough I understand if they have known the person/couple a while, are good and completely trust them, but I see so many profiles near on begging for bareback, some even want impregnating! If that isn't eresponsible I don't know what is?!?! Would love to hear some feedback." Only good thing about threads like this is it helps people who want to play safe as you find out who to avoid | |||
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"Because you've more chance of winning the lottery than being infected with HIV through oral, unless the giver has bleeding gums/mouth then it's a bit different." What used to make me laugh was the following : the AIDS/HIV adverts of the 80's. the risk of getting AIDS is 6 million to one. But don't worry as the risk is so small you are not likely to. The National Lottery odds of winning the jackpot are 14 million to one. But ... It could be you! Don't buy a ticket, don't win the lottery. | |||
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"Can't figure out why people take such risk when meeting people who are complete strangers off the internet. Fair enough I understand if they have known the person/couple a while, are good and completely trust them, but I see so many profiles near on begging for bareback, some even want impregnating! If that isn't eresponsible I don't know what is?!?! Would love to hear some feedback." What difference does "knowing someone for a while make" can you completely trust anyone's sexual health or risk factor after knowing them for a while .I personally would always wear a condom ,but its my choice and I perfectly understand the people who have quantified the risks of not wearing one and decided its ok for them ,providing they then are honest and therefor give you a choice its ok by me and they have my respect. Anyone who thinks wearing a condom makes you "safe" is the real danger as they think its a total get out of jail card.......and it is not. | |||
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"Can't figure out why people take such risk when meeting people who are complete strangers off the internet. Fair enough I understand if they have known the person/couple a while, are good and completely trust them, but I see so many profiles near on begging for bareback, some even want impregnating! If that isn't eresponsible I don't know what is?!?! Would love to hear some feedback. Only good thing about threads like this is it helps people who want to play safe as you find out who to avoid" Interesting thought! So in your world any who stands up for a persons right to bareback is barebacking and be must be avoided! You know you can stand up for peoples rights/decisions without participating in their practise...that's how generally we do things in the western world, maybe they should have labels so you can cross the road to avoid any contact at all. | |||
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"Ewww marmite....Peanut Butter now that's another story " Why must everyone on here be so judgmental...you are a cruel,cruel anti marmite fascist clique! | |||
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"Can't figure out why people take such risk when meeting people who are complete strangers off the internet. Fair enough I understand if they have known the person/couple a while, are good and completely trust them, but I see so many profiles near on begging for bareback, some even want impregnating! If that isn't eresponsible I don't know what is?!?! Would love to hear some feedback. Only good thing about threads like this is it helps people who want to play safe as you find out who to avoid Interesting thought! So in your world any who stands up for a persons right to bareback is barebacking and be must be avoided! You know you can stand up for peoples rights/decisions without participating in their practise...that's how generally we do things in the western world, maybe they should have labels so you can cross the road to avoid any contact at all. " Well said that man: couldn't agree more! Exactly my point! There are many practices I don't like and would never indulge in, but I'd defend anyone's right to play how they wish without questioning them, or making them feel bad! | |||
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"Ewww marmite....Peanut Butter now that's another story Why must everyone on here be so judgmental...you are a cruel,cruel anti marmite fascist clique! " LOL Full members of The Peanut Brigade here....always looking for new members to join our clique | |||
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"Can't figure out why people take such risk when meeting people who are complete strangers off the internet. Fair enough I understand if they have known the person/couple a while, are good and completely trust them, but I see so many profiles near on begging for bareback, some even want impregnating! If that isn't eresponsible I don't know what is?!?! Would love to hear some feedback. Only good thing about threads like this is it helps people who want to play safe as you find out who to avoid Interesting thought! So in your world any who stands up for a persons right to bareback is barebacking and be must be avoided! You know you can stand up for peoples rights/decisions without participating in their practise...that's how generally we do things in the western world, maybe they should have labels so you can cross the road to avoid any contact at all. " Best idea yet labels, and maybe a bell round the neck in case we are looking the other way when a barebacker is in our path.!!! Thanks for such a cool suggestion | |||
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"Can't figure out why people take such risk when meeting people who are complete strangers off the internet. Fair enough I understand if they have known the person/couple a while, are good and completely trust them, but I see so many profiles near on begging for bareback, some even want impregnating! If that isn't eresponsible I don't know what is?!?! Would love to hear some feedback. Only good thing about threads like this is it helps people who want to play safe as you find out who to avoid Interesting thought! So in your world any who stands up for a persons right to bareback is barebacking and be must be avoided! You know you can stand up for peoples rights/decisions without participating in their practise...that's how generally we do things in the western world, maybe they should have labels so you can cross the road to avoid any contact at all. Well said that man: couldn't agree more! Exactly my point! There are many practices I don't like and would never indulge in, but I'd defend anyone's right to play how they wish without questioning them, or making them feel bad! " you are a modern day Voltaire. | |||
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"Ewww marmite....Peanut Butter now that's another story Why must everyone on here be so judgmental...you are a cruel,cruel anti marmite fascist clique! LOL Full members of The Peanut Brigade here....always looking for new members to join our clique " Meh i wouldn't join the PNB.You have crunchy bits! | |||
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"Ewww marmite....Peanut Butter now that's another story Why must everyone on here be so judgmental...you are a cruel,cruel anti marmite fascist clique! LOL Full members of The Peanut Brigade here....always looking for new members to join our clique Meh i wouldn't join the PNB.You have crunchy bits! " now I have a dilemma here ! why I here you shout? well its like this start off the morning with a cup of coffee... ok so far... three slices of toast or crumpets...ok still interested.. and then cover one slice or two crumpets with MM...didn't say the word so as not to offend, one slice with smooth reduced sugar peanut butter sprinkled with Maldon Salt and on the final one thick lurpak! their I said it! I have to say cant understand peeps who want the peanut butter crunchy? whats that all about? | |||
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"Can't figure out why people take such risk when meeting people who are complete strangers off the internet. Fair enough I understand if they have known the person/couple a while, are good and completely trust them, but I see so many profiles near on begging for bareback, some even want impregnating! If that isn't eresponsible I don't know what is?!?! Would love to hear some feedback. Only good thing about threads like this is it helps people who want to play safe as you find out who to avoid Interesting thought! So in your world any who stands up for a persons right to bareback is barebacking and be must be avoided! You know you can stand up for peoples rights/decisions without participating in their practise...that's how generally we do things in the western world, maybe they should have labels so you can cross the road to avoid any contact at all. Well said that man: couldn't agree more! Exactly my point! There are many practices I don't like and would never indulge in, but I'd defend anyone's right to play how they wish without questioning them, or making them feel bad! " | |||
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"I also couldn't agree more, just because I said I don't understand it doesn't mean I dislike people that do, I just found it more disturbing to find people want impregnating, surely there's better ways to go around things? x Can't figure out why people take such risk when meeting people who are complete strangers off the internet. Fair enough I understand if they have known the person/couple a while, are good and completely trust them, but I see so many profiles near on begging for bareback, some even want impregnating! If that isn't eresponsible I don't know what is?!?! Would love to hear some feedback. Only good thing about threads like this is it helps people who want to play safe as you find out who to avoid Interesting thought! So in your world any who stands up for a persons right to bareback is barebacking and be must be avoided! You know you can stand up for peoples rights/decisions without participating in their practise...that's how generally we do things in the western world, maybe they should have labels so you can cross the road to avoid any contact at all. Well said that man: couldn't agree more! Exactly my point! There are many practices I don't like and would never indulge in, but I'd defend anyone's right to play how they wish without questioning them, or making them feel bad! " lets see next time you have a meet should you or should you not cover up thats up to you no body else and barebackers will always be here what ever you say | |||
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"Ewww marmite....Peanut Butter now that's another story Why must everyone on here be so judgmental...you are a cruel,cruel anti marmite fascist clique! LOL Full members of The Peanut Brigade here....always looking for new members to join our clique Meh i wouldn't join the PNB.You have crunchy bits! now I have a dilemma here ! why I here you shout? well its like this start off the morning with a cup of coffee... ok so far... three slices of toast or crumpets...ok still interested.. and then cover one slice or two crumpets with MM...didn't say the word so as not to offend, one slice with smooth reduced sugar peanut butter sprinkled with Maldon Salt and on the final one thick lurpak! their I said it! I have to say cant understand peeps who want the peanut butter crunchy? whats that all about? " LOL Should have said we don't allow crunchy members to join our clique, or part time marmite lovers....as we are a judgemental lot! Only smooth lovers can join..... | |||
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"What's to understand? Bareback sex is like driving along a motorway at 100mph + with your eyes shut. The question ceases to be 'will you die?' and becomes 'which contact will kill you?'." yo appear to be saying that everyone who has unprotected sex will die of an STD. Got any numbers for that, or evidence? | |||
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"Because you've more chance of winning the lottery than being infected with HIV through oral, unless the giver has bleeding gums/mouth then it's a bit different. What used to make me laugh was the following : the AIDS/HIV adverts of the 80's. the risk of getting AIDS is 6 million to one. But don't worry as the risk is so small you are not likely to. The National Lottery odds of winning the jackpot are 14 million to one. But ... It could be you! Don't buy a ticket, don't win the lottery." You can reduce the risks of getting HIV. You can't increase your chance of winning the lottery. | |||
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"What's to understand? Bareback sex is like driving along a motorway at 100mph + with your eyes shut. The question ceases to be 'will you die?' and becomes 'which contact will kill you?'." If I drive down the motorway at 100mph+ with my eyes shut but wear a condom.....will I be safe ? | |||
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" If I drive down the motorway at 100mph+ with my eyes shut but wear a condom.....will I be safe ? " Condom = airbag. So do you want one or not? It might be fair to let your passenger have one, seeing as it's their life you're gambling with, too. I'm shocked that every guy I've met would've if I'd let him. All had to be told condom. This is Edinburgh, former HIV capital of Europe. SHeeshj. | |||
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"most people who are anti-bareback are usually game on for oral... so if someone is prepared to stick a potentially unknown history set of genitalia in their mouth, ingest unknown fluids and have intimate contact with got knows what on the surface of persons skin (or mouths for that matter!), why are they suddenly so insistent on it then not being bareback after that... :S I would assume that the Lady has already taken a parallel method of contraception in most cases at the very least. Wolf :S" Personally find the argument that if you do oral without condom why bother to use one for penetration ridiculous. Very annoyed everytime someone says it. The logic just doesnt stand. Cant even be bothered to go into it yet again. Someone should tell the Gov Health Organisation to forget their campaigns for teenagers to use condoms then should they??? Lets just encourage the in for a penny in for a pound mentality. See what happens in a short period of time down the road when we are all being that irresponsibe not just the few. Jeesh. | |||
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" If I drive down the motorway at 100mph+ with my eyes shut but wear a condom.....will I be safe ? Condom = airbag. So do you want one or not? It might be fair to let your passenger have one, seeing as it's their life you're gambling with, too. I'm shocked that every guy I've met would've if I'd let him. All had to be told condom. This is Edinburgh, former HIV capital of Europe. SHeeshj." I want it known that I have never used an airbag as a condom, never driven at 100mph+ with my eyes shut or had sex in Edinburgh | |||
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"Can't figure out why people take such risk when meeting people who are complete strangers off the internet. Fair enough I understand if they have known the person/couple a while, are good and completely trust them, but I see so many profiles near on begging for bareback, some even want impregnating! If that isn't eresponsible I don't know what is?!?! Would love to hear some feedback." I don't understand how knowing someone for any period of time makes a difference. | |||
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"What's to understand? Bareback sex is like driving along a motorway at 100mph + with your eyes shut. The question ceases to be 'will you die?' and becomes 'which contact will kill you?'." well said | |||
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"Master Posting this, Katie has her own view. Its a swingers site, that means there will be all sorts of deviant acts going on between consenting adults, some go bareback, some wear condoms, its a personal choice and trying to demonise a group of people for their personal choice on a swingers site is quite frankly ridiculous. If you want to be safe wear a condom, if others dont then dont shag them, its pretty simple really. Masterq81 " Hmm, I'd argue it's not that simple and trying to make it so is as ridiculous as you say any alternative opinion is. it's not simple when you say condom and somebody tries to talk you around. It's not simple when somebody thinks they're clean but haven't had a test and think because they're willing to take the risk you should, too. But being a bloke you wouldn't have experienced that, would you? | |||
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"Master Posting this, Katie has her own view. Its a swingers site, that means there will be all sorts of deviant acts going on between consenting adults, some go bareback, some wear condoms, its a personal choice and trying to demonise a group of people for their personal choice on a swingers site is quite frankly ridiculous. If you want to be safe wear a condom, if others dont then dont shag them, its pretty simple really. Masterq81 " Agreed but get annoyed when said people try to justify by telling everyone that condoms make no difference if you have oral without them. Barebackers are honest about it and don't lecture that its just the same as oral without protection I have no argument eith them. If they are prepared to take the risks its up to them. Although must admit always wondered what contraceptive advice they might give their own kids. Separate issue I know but just curious. Both of us! | |||
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"Master Posting this, Katie has her own view. Its a swingers site, that means there will be all sorts of deviant acts going on between consenting adults, some go bareback, some wear condoms, its a personal choice and trying to demonise a group of people for their personal choice on a swingers site is quite frankly ridiculous. If you want to be safe wear a condom, if others dont then dont shag them, its pretty simple really. Masterq81 Hmm, I'd argue it's not that simple and trying to make it so is as ridiculous as you say any alternative opinion is. it's not simple when you say condom and somebody tries to talk you around. It's not simple when somebody thinks they're clean but haven't had a test and think because they're willing to take the risk you should, too. But being a bloke you wouldn't have experienced that, would you?" So if someone tries to talk you round kick them out, to force you would at best be assault and at worst rape, we all have the choice of whether we bareback or not and if you cant say no to someone then you are shagging the wrong people. As for having experienced it then no, but my stance is simple if a woman says no then she means no ( except Katie but she has a safeword ) Masterq81 | |||
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"Master Posting this, Katie has her own view. Its a swingers site, that means there will be all sorts of deviant acts going on between consenting adults, some go bareback, some wear condoms, its a personal choice and trying to demonise a group of people for their personal choice on a swingers site is quite frankly ridiculous. If you want to be safe wear a condom, if others dont then dont shag them, its pretty simple really. Masterq81 " Who's tried to demonise anyone? Cos I certainly haven't. I simply stated my view to start a friendly discussion and people seem to think i'm having a dig personally, which isn't the case. | |||
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"Master Posting this, Katie has her own view. Its a swingers site, that means there will be all sorts of deviant acts going on between consenting adults, some go bareback, some wear condoms, its a personal choice and trying to demonise a group of people for their personal choice on a swingers site is quite frankly ridiculous. If you want to be safe wear a condom, if others dont then dont shag them, its pretty simple really. Masterq81 Who's tried to demonise anyone? Cos I certainly haven't. I simply stated my view to start a friendly discussion and people seem to think i'm having a dig personally, which isn't the case." I never said YOU were demonising anyone, best not be so quick to take offence at what people say or you will be offended a lot on this site | |||
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" If that isn't eresponsible I don't know what is?!?!." This is where you pass judgement.. Now we are all entitled to our views.. If we choose to go bare that would be our choice.. I did reply privately to the OP on the subject of impregnation as its something I at least have read about.. talked to people and had an understanding of... but as its not really a done subject on here I will keep it to, its there choice.. and for most its not something they just get up and decide to do.. Nor is for most it a case of it being to humiliate the parter...( far from it from the people I have spoken to, its just something that they want to do.. ) Also many seem to do it as a fantasy.. while the female is actually taking care of birth control, but they for the sake of fantasy at least forget that. Is it wrong.. No, its there choice.. Its nothing to do with me, only the people involved. I think the same with Bareback.. I count every person I meet as that they have bareback... its then our choice.. ( well Masters) I personally hate condoms.... its why sometimes I even get where I will just do oral.. and a tiny bit of full on sex.. as with a condom Its almost as well as getting a toy out..as you loose so much.. But sadly its not possible to forgo them... We have had people try to get away without...they just get told to cover up.... I know that oral isnt risk free.. but if they wasted it in the condom I think I would cry.. Much better if it cant filling me that I get it either in my mouth or where ever else Master chooses.. Its a choice we take.. same as getting in my car and driving to its and my limits when I get the chance ( on a track before safety police start.. ) I think if less... "oh get the pitchforks out, they bareback " was done.. that more people would openly admit it. Katie. x | |||
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"Although must admit always wondered what contraceptive advice they might give their own kids. Separate issue I know but just curious. Both of us!" As parents we're the biggest hypocrites going. We monitor our children's computers surreptitiously, warn them off the dangers of meeting strangers off the internet, but here we are, on a swinging site creaming our pants in anticipation of a horny meet with a stranger. So really, in light of the above what advice do you think these parents give to their progeny?!! | |||
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"Can't figure out why people take such risk when meeting people who are complete strangers off the internet. Fair enough I understand if they have known the person/couple a while, are good and completely trust them, but I see so many profiles near on begging for bareback, some even want impregnating! If that isn't eresponsible I don't know what is?!?! Would love to hear some feedback." Just a question, would you say the same things to the young girls and guys that go out on a weekend get pissed and go off with someone they dont know to have sex with. | |||
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"Just a thought * Without bareback none of us would be here " Funny! | |||
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"Although must admit always wondered what contraceptive advice they might give their own kids. Separate issue I know but just curious. Both of us! As parents we're the biggest hypocrites going. We monitor our children's computers surreptitiously, warn them off the dangers of meeting strangers off the internet, but here we are, on a swinging site creaming our pants in anticipation of a horny meet with a stranger. So really, in light of the above what advice do you think these parents give to their progeny?!! " Thats what I suspect which kinda disproves their point.... but Im glad Mistress x | |||
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"Can't figure out why people take such risk when meeting people who are complete strangers off the internet. Fair enough I understand if they have known the person/couple a while, are good and completely trust them, but I see so many profiles near on begging for bareback, some even want impregnating! If that isn't eresponsible I don't know what is?!?! Would love to hear some feedback. Just a question, would you say the same things to the young girls and guys that go out on a weekend get pissed and go off with someone they dont know to have sex with." good point but how many would admit to playing bareback cpls single guys and girls not many on here any way but i know a few who do dont we all | |||
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"Haven't we already done this topic. Like 7 days ago. " What?!! A topic that's been done before?!! Where?!! On here?!! Nooo!!! | |||
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"Fair enough, I knw stuff gets repeated ,but this has hardly had a day of rest. " Unlike the: Bareback Timewasting Can't get a meet Would you fuck What am I doing wrong type threads you mean. | |||
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"I only have BB with my regular partner, he only has BB with me, he knows my sexual health is very important to me and I think he values his balls... What worries me is peoples lack of understanding of STD's, there is something far easier to catch then HIV, Hep... I, in the BDSM scene engage in edge play, specifically needles and cutting, so I've been vaccinated, I wonder how many of those who practice BB have? As for catching it, I've had 2 friends die of Hep, and I know 3 people who are HIV positive, none of whom are drug users and have all contracted them through unsafe genital-genital contact. As someone has already mentioned the change of contracting HIV or Hep from Oral-Genital contact is very slight, if the gums of the person receiving orally are cut free (and brushing your teeth before a meet will cause slight cuts, even if you don't see blood)" Jesus! What kind of a group of people do you associate with? Dying of hep!contracting HIV! Have you ever considered Russian roulette as a pass time? I'm not being flipant but you really should consider changing the people you associate with if only to avoid serious depression and I should think you must buck the trends of any and all national statistics! I find it hard to believe what you say or are you a health worker? | |||
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" Jesus! What kind of a group of people do you associate with? Dying of hep!contracting HIV! Have you ever considered Russian roulette as a pass time? I'm not being flipant but you really should consider changing the people you associate with if only to avoid serious depression and I should think you must buck the trends of any and all national statistics! I find it hard to believe what you say or are you a health worker?" I already said that I'm involved with the BDSM scene, most of my friends are in the same circles. One of the people who has died of complications following Hep was someone I worked with (in a shop) I have no idea of his sexual history 2 of those who are HIV positive are gay, older then me and caught the virus in the late 70's early 80's, the other is a bisexual female, I've never asked her how she contracted the virus, it's not the done thing... The other friend that died of Hep was someone from uni, cause unknown but quite possibly from copious d*unken one night stands, I DON'T play russian roulette with my health, I'm fanatical, nay paranoid about my sexual health, seeing friends go through something like that happens to make a girl overly cautious! I fail to see however why I would become depressed by my friends situations? They aren't and are all living their lives to the fullest extent, and ensuring that those around them don't make similar mistakes! | |||
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" Jesus! What kind of a group of people do you associate with? Dying of hep!contracting HIV! Have you ever considered Russian roulette as a pass time? I'm not being flipant but you really should consider changing the people you associate with if only to avoid serious depression and I should think you must buck the trends of any and all national statistics! I find it hard to believe what you say or are you a health worker? I already said that I'm involved with the BDSM scene, most of my friends are in the same circles. One of the people who has died of complications following Hep was someone I worked with (in a shop) I have no idea of his sexual history 2 of those who are HIV positive are gay, older then me and caught the virus in the late 70's early 80's, the other is a bisexual female, I've never asked her how she contracted the virus, it's not the done thing... The other friend that died of Hep was someone from uni, cause unknown but quite possibly from copious d*unken one night stands, I DON'T play russian roulette with my health, I'm fanatical, nay paranoid about my sexual health, seeing friends go through something like that happens to make a girl overly cautious! I fail to see however why I would become depressed by my friends situations? They aren't and are all living their lives to the fullest extent, and ensuring that those around them don't make similar mistakes!" well forgive me stating the obvious but if your fanatical about your sexual health maybe you should re look at whether swinging is for you ,after all the only safe sex is abstinence or pleasing yourself. Condoms will not provide total safety ,the allowable failure rate without recall during production will guarantee that ,thats without the hpv risk which condoms can not contain. To the OP as Rugby pointed out we all decide what is an acceptable risk to us the individual,if someones risk allowance is higher than anyone elses we really are not in a position to criticise,provided they are honest and declare their preference. just my tuppence worth and probably not worth a lot | |||
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"Can't figure out why people take such risk when meeting people who are complete strangers off the internet. Fair enough I understand if they have known the person/couple a while, are good and completely trust them, but I see so many profiles near on begging for bareback, some even want impregnating! If that isn't eresponsible I don't know what is?!?! Would love to hear some feedback. I don't understand how knowing someone for any period of time makes a difference." No we dont get that either... AIDS/HIV can sit there for years...waiting..just because someone looks or acts 'ok' it doesnt mean they are...and theres no difference fucking a complete stranger from the internet, a Lord (or Lady) or a tramp...STD's dont have any social barriers. We dont swing for the above reason..we simply dont want to 'run the risk' of dying of Aids..then again, we are both silly enough to smoke ok not much, but we do) buts thats in our hands and not other peoples. Barebackers and their partners know what they are doing..the risk is obviously part of the attraction...let em get on with it I say...each to their own. (even if it is reckless and contributes towards the spread of STD's...but the biggest threat are teenage boys IMO whos brains are in their balls...and cant even spell contraceptive let alone use one!) | |||
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" well forgive me stating the obvious but if your fanatical about your sexual health maybe you should re look at whether swinging is for you ,after all the only safe sex is abstinence or pleasing yourself. Condoms will not provide total safety ,the allowable failure rate without recall during production will guarantee that ,thats without the hpv risk which condoms can not contain. To the OP as Rugby pointed out we all decide what is an acceptable risk to us the individual,if someones risk allowance is higher than anyone elses we really are not in a position to criticise,provided they are honest and declare their preference. just my tuppence worth and probably not worth a lot " Because I want to swing, I enjoy it... no condoms aren't 100%, but I make an INFORMED choice, I'm not naive, I choose to swing, the same way I choose to be tested every two weeks, the same way I choose to inform myself of all the latest advances and understanding in the transmission and risks of STD's Being fanatical isn't about staying celibate, it's about being informed, and staying as safe as is possible. I am also not naive when it comes to my FB, we aren't, like quite a few i've come across on here, people who met on the swinging scene, or on fab... we were friends first, fuckbuddies, then swinging partners. | |||
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"if you worry to much or think about it too much you wont meet anyone through fear. just ask someone you plan on meeting if they practice safe sex if you got any doubts. they shouldnt be offended by your question and welcome you asking it if they do." You can ask away but the the majority who do play bareback certainly don't admit it. | |||
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"You can ask away but the the majority who do play bareback certainly don't admit it." thats as maybe... but if they got here and only then admitted that they cant "perform" wearing a condom then they'd immediately be shown the way back out the front door | |||
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"if you worry to much or think about it too much you wont meet anyone through fear. just ask someone you plan on meeting if they practice safe sex if you got any doubts. they shouldnt be offended by your question and welcome you asking it if they do." i never ask anyone if they practice safe sex because people on here will just tell you what you want to hear Most people will have played bareback at some time in their life, maybe not off here but when they was younger with some bird they shagged round the abck of the pub etc lol How many of us can honestly say we have used a condom every single time we have had sex through out our whole lifes, besides with our hubby/wife? i know i can't, looking after yourself comes with age and experience Im not here to judge anyone When i meet someone so long as they are happy to go along with my wishes what they do with other people is nothing to do with me | |||
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