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By *orders2forU OP   Couple
over a year ago

Hawick

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By *orders2forU OP   Couple
over a year ago

Hawick

It seems some consider the two to be quite seperate matters. We recently met people who used the vape system but have themselves on the site as non smokers.

To us though there was that smell of nicotine that we really do not like and so we personally think one equates to the other. Or does the site need to list vapeing as well as smoking to help the filters?

Over to you...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It seems some consider the two to be quite seperate matters. We recently met people who used the vape system but have themselves on the site as non smokers.

To us though there was that smell of nicotine that we really do not like and so we personally think one equates to the other. Or does the site need to list vapeing as well as smoking to help the filters?

Over to you...

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Yes two different complete systems of allowing nicotine in to the body

First the normal smoker

4000 chemical in that product to make sure he or she is fixed and addicted

When they light up and inhale, point of damage, carbon , tar and endless chemicals hit the bloody stream , blacken the lungs , overall inreversable damage,

Now your vapor.

Two types of liquid for inhaling a third liguid, nicotine ,

Zero damage to the person next to him or his lungs, the smoker would pass a smoking test for carbon,

But would pass a cotinine test of urine,

That's fine as he isn't causing damage, 3 days the Cotinine will go if he stops

Nicotine /cotinine same for the smoker but to late, can't take your lungs out and wash them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It seems some consider the two to be quite seperate matters. We recently met people who used the vape system but have themselves on the site as non smokers.

To us though there was that smell of nicotine that we really do not like and so we personally think one equates to the other. Or does the site need to list vapeing as well as smoking to help the filters?

Over to you...

Yes two different complete systems of allowing nicotine in to the body

First the normal smoker

4000 chemical in that product to make sure he or she is fixed and addicted

When they light up and inhale, point of damage, carbon , tar and endless chemicals hit the bloody stream , blacken the lungs , overall inreversable damage,

Now your vapor.

Two types of liquid for inhaling a third liguid, nicotine ,

Zero damage to the person next to him or his lungs, the smoker would pass a smoking test for carbon,

But would pass a cotinine test of urine,

That's fine as he isn't causing damage, 3 days the Cotinine will go if he stops

Nicotine /cotinine same for the smoker but to late, can't take your lungs out and wash them "

I dont believe that enough testing has been done to say vaping or ecig have no long term effects on the lungs

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By *ymruambythCouple
over a year ago

grantham


"It seems some consider the two to be quite seperate matters. We recently met people who used the vape system but have themselves on the site as non smokers.

To us though there was that smell of nicotine that we really do not like and so we personally think one equates to the other. Or does the site need to list vapeing as well as smoking to help the filters?

Over to you...

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There is no smell of nicotine. The smell you get with smoking is of burnt tobacco. Vaping is odourless with the exception of the flavourings that are used (such as fruit flavours, vanilla etc) and even then they are very mild.

If you object to the 'smell' of vaping I suggest you are objecting to the idea of it, rather than any smell

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By *andomfodCouple
over a year ago

walsall

I agree that there should be an option for vaping on the site now. At least it will put this issue to bed for good then.

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By *ymruambythCouple
over a year ago

grantham

I disagree. Vaping is not smoking.

If we have an option for Vaping, we should have an option for what people eat or drink, or if they wear aftershave

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen


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I dont believe that enough testing has been done to say vaping or ecig have no long term effects on the lungs"

Agreed. E-cigarette use among young people is a major health concern, according to a new report from the U.S. Surgeon General yesterday.

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By *r and mrs sanddancerCouple
over a year ago

BOLDON COLLIERY


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I dont believe that enough testing has been done to say vaping or ecig have no long term effects on the lungs

Agreed. E-cigarette use among young people is a major health concern, according to a new report from the U.S. Surgeon General yesterday. "

and we all know how the big tobacco companies never influence american politics

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By *nnejohnCouple
over a year ago

warrington

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By *nnejohnCouple
over a year ago

warrington

big tobacco are investing heavily in vaping

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

mildred gave up smokeing and now vapes, there is no smell from the vape that we have noticed, she just needs to give up the habit of puffing on a plastic tube which I'm sure some still associate with smokeing,

we have put on our profile that neither of us smoke , but did add on our profile that mildred vapes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We both vape and have our profile and non-smokers because you know, we don't smoke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It seems some consider the two to be quite seperate matters. We recently met people who used the vape system but have themselves on the site as non smokers.

To us though there was that smell of nicotine that we really do not like and so we personally think one equates to the other. Or does the site need to list vapeing as well as smoking to help the filters?

Over to you...

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I vape..and am listed as a non smoker. I use fruity or minty liquids. I don't smell/taste like a smoker.

If a meet has a problem with me vaping ( talking an overnight meet here) then I won't.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I vape but have left my profile as smoking.

If its a deal breaker, maybe check in the messages, or even put it on your profile.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

I don't smoke and can smell cigarette smoke a mile off. If I'm driving and somebody outside is smoking, I can smell it.

But, I can't get why people put vaping down. There is the smell of whatever flavour they're using but that's it. No more smell afterwards than if they had chewed gum or d*unk a strong tasting drink. Can't see the big deal. I wouldn't link the two habits personally.

MrB

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

29 weeks yesterday i gave up, but before i did i vaped and i had myself down as a smoker on my profile, e-liquid contains nicotine depending on its strength

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"29 weeks yesterday i gave up, but before i did i vaped and i had myself down as a smoker on my profile, e-liquid contains nicotine depending on its strength"

What does nicotine content have to do with it? If you were solely using nicotine gum or patches would you still be considered a smoker?

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield


"29 weeks yesterday i gave up, but before i did i vaped and i had myself down as a smoker on my profile, e-liquid contains nicotine depending on its strength

What does nicotine content have to do with it? If you were solely using nicotine gum or patches would you still be considered a smoker? "

That's what I don't get. I think people who say 'no smokers' say so because of the tobacco smell, not because they have an idealogical thing against nicotine. As far as I know it's undetectable to anybody else??

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"29 weeks yesterday i gave up, but before i did i vaped and i had myself down as a smoker on my profile, e-liquid contains nicotine depending on its strength

What does nicotine content have to do with it? If you were solely using nicotine gum or patches would you still be considered a smoker?

That's what I don't get. I think people who say 'no smokers' say so because of the tobacco smell, not because they have an idealogical thing against nicotine. As far as I know it's undetectable to anybody else??"

Its a tasteless, colourless, odourless liquid.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield


"29 weeks yesterday i gave up, but before i did i vaped and i had myself down as a smoker on my profile, e-liquid contains nicotine depending on its strength

What does nicotine content have to do with it? If you were solely using nicotine gum or patches would you still be considered a smoker?

That's what I don't get. I think people who say 'no smokers' say so because of the tobacco smell, not because they have an idealogical thing against nicotine. As far as I know it's undetectable to anybody else??

Its a tasteless, colourless, odourless liquid."

Exactly, so surely a vaper is a non-smoker, as the negative aspect (smell) doesn't exist. Unless I'm missing something?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"29 weeks yesterday i gave up, but before i did i vaped and i had myself down as a smoker on my profile, e-liquid contains nicotine depending on its strength

What does nicotine content have to do with it? If you were solely using nicotine gum or patches would you still be considered a smoker?

That's what I don't get. I think people who say 'no smokers' say so because of the tobacco smell, not because they have an idealogical thing against nicotine. As far as I know it's undetectable to anybody else??

Its a tasteless, colourless, odourless liquid."

I wouldn't say it's tasteless, I have a bottle of 7.2% nic base in the freezer and that tastes fecking awful! Saying that it may have something added to it to make it taste bitttee

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan


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I dont believe that enough testing has been done to say vaping or ecig have no long term effects on the lungs

Agreed. E-cigarette use among young people is a major health concern, according to a new report from the U.S. Surgeon General yesterday. "

Smoking isn't?

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"I dont believe that enough testing has been done to say vaping or ecig have no long term effects on the lungs"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Vaping does smell. Looks ridiculous too.

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan


"It seems some consider the two to be quite seperate matters. We recently met people who used the vape system but have themselves on the site as non smokers.

To us though there was that smell of nicotine that we really do not like and so we personally think one equates to the other. Or does the site need to list vapeing as well as smoking to help the filters?

Over to you...

Yes two different complete systems of allowing nicotine in to the body

First the normal smoker

4000 chemical in that product to make sure he or she is fixed and addicted

When they light up and inhale, point of damage, carbon , tar and endless chemicals hit the bloody stream , blacken the lungs , overall inreversable damage,

Now your vapor.

Two types of liquid for inhaling a third liguid, nicotine ,

Zero damage to the person next to him or his lungs, the smoker would pass a smoking test for carbon,

But would pass a cotinine test of urine,

That's fine as he isn't causing damage, 3 days the Cotinine will go if he stops

Nicotine /cotinine same for the smoker but to late, can't take your lungs out and wash them

I dont believe that enough testing has been done to say vaping or ecig have no long term effects on the lungs"

You know that cell damage/mutation in the short term study can be examined to understand the longer term effects ?

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan


"Vaping does smell. Looks ridiculous too."

More or less offensive than the smell of smoking?

Looks more or less as ridiculous as smoking?

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster


"Vaping does smell. Looks ridiculous too."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Vaping does smell. Looks ridiculous too.

More or less offensive than the smell of smoking?

Looks more or less as ridiculous as smoking?"

I'd say vaping looks more ridiculous (apart from rollies).

Cigarettes smell worse but the sickly sweet smell of vaping isn't pleasant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can understand when people say they don't like the smell of tobacco vape.. but fruit or mint or cookies?? Is that offensive?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can understand when people say they don't like the smell of tobacco vape.. but fruit or mint or cookies?? Is that offensive? "

It's minging, yes

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan


"Vaping does smell. Looks ridiculous too.

More or less offensive than the smell of smoking?

Looks more or less as ridiculous as smoking?

I'd say vaping looks more ridiculous (apart from rollies).

Cigarettes smell worse but the sickly sweet smell of vaping isn't pleasant."

Ok... consider the vaper who has made steps to improve their health and more importantly to use a method of nicotine delivery that doesn't cause harm to others against those who don't attempt to change and soldier on with cigarette in hand to an early grave while taking their friends and acquaintances with them? You think the vaper looks ridiculous...

While you find the odour of vaping unpleasant other odours, perfumes aftershave body sprays Diesel engines kebab shops can be equally offensive. I vape like I smoked, with a conscious effort not to interfere with others!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

they could also just stop smoking...

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan


"they could also just stop smoking..."

I find the smell of marmite offensive, I believe it lingers on your breath! You could just stop eating it, I think eating marmite is ridiculous!

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan


"they could also just stop smoking..."

Oh and they have it seems!, I know it's hard but smoking and vaping are different

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By *ust TallMan
over a year ago

weston-super-mare

After 3 years of vaping, my GP carried out a lung function test and found my lungs to be that of a non smoker!

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan


"After 3 years of vaping, my GP carried out a lung function test and found my lungs to be that of a non smoker!"

Well done! Though I imagine someone will respond with course ... you have the lungs of a vaper!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"they could also just stop smoking...

Oh and they have it seems!, I know it's hard but smoking and vaping are different"

It's just a new way of sating a nicotine addiction

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan


"they could also just stop smoking...

Oh and they have it seems!, I know it's hard but smoking and vaping are different

It's just a new way of sating a nicotine addiction"

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By *ust TallMan
over a year ago

weston-super-mare


"After 3 years of vaping, my GP carried out a lung function test and found my lungs to be that of a non smoker!

Well done! Though I imagine someone will respond with course ... you have the lungs of a vaper!"

Thank you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"they could also just stop smoking...

Oh and they have it seems!, I know it's hard but smoking and vaping are different

It's just a new way of sating a nicotine addiction"

Which is a problem because?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"they could also just stop smoking...

Oh and they have it seems!, I know it's hard but smoking and vaping are different

It's just a new way of sating a nicotine addiction"

Yep. A much healthier way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"they could also just stop smoking...

Oh and they have it seems!, I know it's hard but smoking and vaping are different

It's just a new way of sating a nicotine addiction"

And those who vape on 0 nicotine?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"they could also just stop smoking...

Oh and they have it seems!, I know it's hard but smoking and vaping are different

It's just a new way of sating a nicotine addiction"

Clearly the opinion of someone who has never smoked and doesn't realise how difficult it can be for some people to give up. It must be wonderful to sit in your ivory tower looking down on others ....

Some people don't seem to realise how overpowering their aftershave or perfume can be there was a chap in my local supermarket last Saturday who must have put a litre of aftershave on it was that strong it lingered way after he had walked off you could even smell it on the veg he had handled and put back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do enjoy those who like to display their ignorance by making comments that show they clearly havent a clue about the subject.

I respect your preference not to meet vapers, but do please curb your ignorance and judgmentalism about a subject you clearly have no knowledge of, and respect those that do vape.

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

I'll throw you another.... my parents have both smoked for all their adult lives, now they are retired, heavily.

6 months ago we had our first child and I would love them to watch her grow into a beautiful woman. I'd really love that!! I have bought both ecigs, quite a few different ones, now I've bought them sub kits ( the cloudy ones) ... and if.... only if ... they switch their habit I will be made up... at no point will I look and say "how ridiculous". Ridicule of others without good reason and ridicule which may deter someone from improving their health and lengthening their life seems a little .... wrong?

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By *aughtyLondonGuyMan
over a year ago

london

I know two people (one a lady) who have both suffered really sudden hair loss and they have both been told by there GP's that it appears to be a side effect of vaping as they contain sooooo many chemicals

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"they could also just stop smoking...

Oh and they have it seems!, I know it's hard but smoking and vaping are different

It's just a new way of sating a nicotine addiction

Clearly the opinion of someone who has never smoked and doesn't realise how difficult it can be for some people to give up. It must be wonderful to sit in your ivory tower looking down on others ....

Some people don't seem to realise how overpowering their aftershave or perfume can be there was a chap in my local supermarket last Saturday who must have put a litre of aftershave on it was that strong it lingered way after he had walked off you could even smell it on the veg he had handled and put back. "

Since giving up smoking my sense of smell has returned greatly, the only problem with this is a now can't walk though a crowded area without being assaulted by various forms of BO which I find highly offensive!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Then the doctor faked his qualification.

Theres very few chemicals, none proven harmful after at least 13 years of studies.

And Nicotine, which is as harmful as a cup of coffee.

I think the Dr was incredibly wrong and neglectful to say that with no medical evidence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"they could also just stop smoking...

Oh and they have it seems!, I know it's hard but smoking and vaping are different

It's just a new way of sating a nicotine addiction

Clearly the opinion of someone who has never smoked and doesn't realise how difficult it can be for some people to give up. It must be wonderful to sit in your ivory tower looking down on others ....

Some people don't seem to realise how overpowering their aftershave or perfume can be there was a chap in my local supermarket last Saturday who must have put a litre of aftershave on it was that strong it lingered way after he had walked off you could even smell it on the veg he had handled and put back. "

...or the opinion of somebody who smoked for 15 years, read Allen Carr, quit by actually quitting and recognises the bullshit of an addict

I'm not arguing about aftershave or garlic or marmite. I'm pointing out that it is still a nicotine addiction, it still stinks and it looks ridiculous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know two people (one a lady) who have both suffered really sudden hair loss and they have both been told by there GP's that it appears to be a side effect of vaping as they contain sooooo many chemicals"

Did they graduate from the fab medical faculty?

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan


"I know two people (one a lady) who have both suffered really sudden hair loss and they have both been told by there GP's that it appears to be a side effect of vaping as they contain sooooo many chemicals"

You should immediately get them to revisit their gps and find out what chemicals they believe to have caused the issue! Possibly then ask them to refer their gps to the guidance from the royal college of physicians, then public health England. While I guess an allergy to propylene glycol or vegetable glycerin or a flavouring is unlikely it is possible! To have two friends diagnosed this way seems very unlikely.... do they use the same gp?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"they could also just stop smoking...

Oh and they have it seems!, I know it's hard but smoking and vaping are different

It's just a new way of sating a nicotine addiction

Clearly the opinion of someone who has never smoked and doesn't realise how difficult it can be for some people to give up. It must be wonderful to sit in your ivory tower looking down on others ....

Some people don't seem to realise how overpowering their aftershave or perfume can be there was a chap in my local supermarket last Saturday who must have put a litre of aftershave on it was that strong it lingered way after he had walked off you could even smell it on the veg he had handled and put back.

...or the opinion of somebody who smoked for 15 years, read Allen Carr, quit by actually quitting and recognises the bullshit of an addict

I'm not arguing about aftershave or garlic or marmite. I'm pointing out that it is still a nicotine addiction, it still stinks and it looks ridiculous."

You still haven't answered what's wrong with being addicted to nicotine, oh wait you blocked me last time I shot you down on this very subject.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know two people (one a lady) who have both suffered really sudden hair loss and they have both been told by there GP's that it appears to be a side effect of vaping as they contain sooooo many chemicals

You should immediately get them to revisit their gps and find out what chemicals they believe to have caused the issue! Possibly then ask them to refer their gps to the guidance from the royal college of physicians, then public health England. While I guess an allergy to propylene glycol or vegetable glycerin or a flavouring is unlikely it is possible! To have two friends diagnosed this way seems very unlikely.... do they use the same gp?"

I think it was sarcasm! Saying that PG allergy is a genuine thing, easily overcome by vaping high vg liquids

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan


"they could also just stop smoking...

Oh and they have it seems!, I know it's hard but smoking and vaping are different

It's just a new way of sating a nicotine addiction

Clearly the opinion of someone who has never smoked and doesn't realise how difficult it can be for some people to give up. It must be wonderful to sit in your ivory tower looking down on others ....

Some people don't seem to realise how overpowering their aftershave or perfume can be there was a chap in my local supermarket last Saturday who must have put a litre of aftershave on it was that strong it lingered way after he had walked off you could even smell it on the veg he had handled and put back.

...or the opinion of somebody who smoked for 15 years, read Allen Carr, quit by actually quitting and recognises the bullshit of an addict

I'm not arguing about aftershave or garlic or marmite. I'm pointing out that it is still a nicotine addiction, it still stinks and it looks ridiculous."

It makes no difference to you though! None,

Like your marmite makes no difference to me so I won't mention it... I'd think it rude!, I certainly wouldn't feel it worthy of ridicule!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"they could also just stop smoking...

Oh and they have it seems!, I know it's hard but smoking and vaping are different

It's just a new way of sating a nicotine addiction

Clearly the opinion of someone who has never smoked and doesn't realise how difficult it can be for some people to give up. It must be wonderful to sit in your ivory tower looking down on others ....

Some people don't seem to realise how overpowering their aftershave or perfume can be there was a chap in my local supermarket last Saturday who must have put a litre of aftershave on it was that strong it lingered way after he had walked off you could even smell it on the veg he had handled and put back.

...or the opinion of somebody who smoked for 15 years, read Allen Carr, quit by actually quitting and recognises the bullshit of an addict

I'm not arguing about aftershave or garlic or marmite. I'm pointing out that it is still a nicotine addiction, it still stinks and it looks ridiculous.

You still haven't answered what's wrong with being addicted to nicotine, oh wait you blocked me last time I shot you down on this very subject. "

No we blocked you because we don't find you attractive.

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan


"I know two people (one a lady) who have both suffered really sudden hair loss and they have both been told by there GP's that it appears to be a side effect of vaping as they contain sooooo many chemicals

You should immediately get them to revisit their gps and find out what chemicals they believe to have caused the issue! Possibly then ask them to refer their gps to the guidance from the royal college of physicians, then public health England. While I guess an allergy to propylene glycol or vegetable glycerin or a flavouring is unlikely it is possible! To have two friends diagnosed this way seems very unlikely.... do they use the same gp?

I think it was sarcasm! Saying that PG allergy is a genuine thing, easily overcome by vaping high vg liquids "

Fully understand that, pg allergy is relatively common, but shit there's some side effects !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As for the health implications the NHS guidance is:

It may come as a surprise to many that we don't know exactly what is in e-cigarettes and the effect they have on health, especially given that there are more than 7,000 different "e-cigarette flavours" and the devices are used by millions.

E-cigarettes are currently unregulated, meaning there is no standardisation or medical control over what is in them, although this is set to change in 2016.

And because they haven't been around long, there is precious little research informing us about the effect they have on health. As such, there is a lot of debate about whether they are good or bad for health.

One side says e-cigarettes are a much safer alternative to regular tobacco smoking as they don't contain cancer-causing chemicals, just the additive substance nicotine. A recent evidence review by Public Health England concluded they are 95% safer than regular cigarettes.

The other side of the argument says the vapour may still damage lungs in as yet unknown ways, and the widespread uptake of vaping may normalise smoking again, leading to more people – especially young adults – taking up the tobacco version.

Marketing of sweet and fruit e-cig flavours to kids and young adults has also come under the spotlight, especially when they can choose between flavours like cherry crush and alien blood.

Irrespective of which side of the debate you're on, one thing is for sure: we lack information about what is in e-cigs and how they affect health. Most research has focused on the nicotine in the devices, rather than the chemical content beyond this.

At present, there are more questions than answers. There's little doubt not smoking tobacco or e-cigarettes is the best way to reduce your risk.

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"they could also just stop smoking...

Oh and they have it seems!, I know it's hard but smoking and vaping are different

It's just a new way of sating a nicotine addiction

Clearly the opinion of someone who has never smoked and doesn't realise how difficult it can be for some people to give up. It must be wonderful to sit in your ivory tower looking down on others ....

Some people don't seem to realise how overpowering their aftershave or perfume can be there was a chap in my local supermarket last Saturday who must have put a litre of aftershave on it was that strong it lingered way after he had walked off you could even smell it on the veg he had handled and put back.

...or the opinion of somebody who smoked for 15 years, read Allen Carr, quit by actually quitting and recognises the bullshit of an addict

I'm not arguing about aftershave or garlic or marmite. I'm pointing out that it is still a nicotine addiction, it still stinks and it looks ridiculous.

You still haven't answered what's wrong with being addicted to nicotine, oh wait you blocked me last time I shot you down on this very subject.

No we blocked you because we don't find you attractive."

Ah your dishonesty knows no bounds. Still avoiding my question I see, must be a real difficult one

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over a year ago


"they could also just stop smoking...

Oh and they have it seems!, I know it's hard but smoking and vaping are different

It's just a new way of sating a nicotine addiction

Clearly the opinion of someone who has never smoked and doesn't realise how difficult it can be for some people to give up. It must be wonderful to sit in your ivory tower looking down on others ....

Some people don't seem to realise how overpowering their aftershave or perfume can be there was a chap in my local supermarket last Saturday who must have put a litre of aftershave on it was that strong it lingered way after he had walked off you could even smell it on the veg he had handled and put back.

...or the opinion of somebody who smoked for 15 years, read Allen Carr, quit by actually quitting and recognises the bullshit of an addict

I'm not arguing about aftershave or garlic or marmite. I'm pointing out that it is still a nicotine addiction, it still stinks and it looks ridiculous.

You still haven't answered what's wrong with being addicted to nicotine, oh wait you blocked me last time I shot you down on this very subject.

No we blocked you because we don't find you attractive.

Ah your dishonesty knows no bounds. Still avoiding my question I see, must be a real difficult one "

I can assure you I'm being perfectly honest. My opinions are clear as above and we did block you because we don't fancy you.

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over a year ago


"As for the health implications the NHS guidance is:

It may come as a surprise to many that we don't know exactly what is in e-cigarettes and the effect they have on health, especially given that there are more than 7,000 different "e-cigarette flavours" and the devices are used by millions.

E-cigarettes are currently unregulated, meaning there is no standardisation or medical control over what is in them, although this is set to change in 2016.

And because they haven't been around long, there is precious little research informing us about the effect they have on health. As such, there is a lot of debate about whether they are good or bad for health.

One side says e-cigarettes are a much safer alternative to regular tobacco smoking as they don't contain cancer-causing chemicals, just the additive substance nicotine. A recent evidence review by Public Health England concluded they are 95% safer than regular cigarettes.

The other side of the argument says the vapour may still damage lungs in as yet unknown ways, and the widespread uptake of vaping may normalise smoking again, leading to more people – especially young adults – taking up the tobacco version.

Marketing of sweet and fruit e-cig flavours to kids and young adults has also come under the spotlight, especially when they can choose between flavours like cherry crush and alien blood.

Irrespective of which side of the debate you're on, one thing is for sure: we lack information about what is in e-cigs and how they affect health. Most research has focused on the nicotine in the devices, rather than the chemical content beyond this.

At present, there are more questions than answers. There's little doubt not smoking tobacco or e-cigarettes is the best way to reduce your risk. "

Woe is me being 95% safer now I vape instead of smoke! There's also no evidence that vaping normalises smoking, on the contrary the opposite is being observed. Vaping isn't being marketed at kids, in fact you have to click that you're over 18 to enter, now I'll admit that isn't much of a security measure but it is evidence that they are not intentionally selling to under age customers.

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over a year ago

All bad who cares

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over a year ago


"they could also just stop smoking...

Oh and they have it seems!, I know it's hard but smoking and vaping are different

It's just a new way of sating a nicotine addiction

Clearly the opinion of someone who has never smoked and doesn't realise how difficult it can be for some people to give up. It must be wonderful to sit in your ivory tower looking down on others ....

Some people don't seem to realise how overpowering their aftershave or perfume can be there was a chap in my local supermarket last Saturday who must have put a litre of aftershave on it was that strong it lingered way after he had walked off you could even smell it on the veg he had handled and put back.

...or the opinion of somebody who smoked for 15 years, read Allen Carr, quit by actually quitting and recognises the bullshit of an addict

I'm not arguing about aftershave or garlic or marmite. I'm pointing out that it is still a nicotine addiction, it still stinks and it looks ridiculous."

See you avoided the question about those who vape zero nicotine?

And as you rightly pointed out, there is no evidence or medical findings anout harmful effects from vaping.

Perhaps until there is you should wind your neck in? Because your arguement is based on zero evidence, rather youre own preference which youre being particularly rude in the manner in which your projecting it.

I wonder, do you drink tea? Coffee?

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By *-4pleasureCouple
over a year ago

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"It seems some consider the two to be quite seperate matters. We recently met people who used the vape system but have themselves on the site as non smokers.

To us though there was that smell of nicotine that we really do not like and so we personally think one equates to the other. Or does the site need to list vapeing as well as smoking to help the filters?

Over to you...

There is no smell of nicotine. The smell you get with smoking is of burnt tobacco. Vaping is odourless with the exception of the flavourings that are used (such as fruit flavours, vanilla etc) and even then they are very mild.

If you object to the 'smell' of vaping I suggest you are objecting to the idea of it, rather than any smell"

nonsense - try walking into a cloud of someone's bad breath, multiplied by a gagging chemical raspberry odour - bloody disgusting

I hate vaping possibly more than i hate smoking

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over a year ago

winding my neck in won't alter that it will still stink, still look ridiculous.

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over a year ago

As for the nicotine implications, I've never looked in to it but a quick look makes it clear they're in no way certain about its safety:

A 2014 American Heart Association policy statement found that some health concerns relate to nicotine. Experimental research suggests that adolescent nicotine use may harm brain development.Children exposed to nicotine may have a number of lifelong health issues.

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over a year ago


"winding my neck in won't alter that it will still stink, still look ridiculous."

In your opinion.

In my opinion you bang on about nicotine, but you must be on some sort of drug. Id hate to think theres no other explanation for such a poor attitude.

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over a year ago


"As for the nicotine implications, I've never looked in to it but a quick look makes it clear they're in no way certain about its safety:

A 2014 American Heart Association policy statement found that some health concerns relate to nicotine. Experimental research suggests that adolescent nicotine use may harm brain development.Children exposed to nicotine may have a number of lifelong health issues."

Ahh google is your friend i see?

Bit late now, your earlier posts showed clear ignorance on the subject.

That little snippet is outdated now. Theres a way to find out how old a page is, google it to find out how

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over a year ago


"winding my neck in won't alter that it will still stink, still look ridiculous.

In your opinion.

In my opinion you bang on about nicotine, but you must be on some sort of drug. Id hate to think theres no other explanation for such a poor attitude. "

It could just be that my senses haven't been retarded by inhaling shit of which I know fuck all about.

I'm led to believe it may also impair rational debate and IQ which to be fair would mean it was brave of you to do in the first place given your limited resources in those departments

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over a year ago


"As for the nicotine implications, I've never looked in to it but a quick look makes it clear they're in no way certain about its safety:

A 2014 American Heart Association policy statement found that some health concerns relate to nicotine. Experimental research suggests that adolescent nicotine use may harm brain development.Children exposed to nicotine may have a number of lifelong health issues.

Ahh google is your friend i see?

Bit late now, your earlier posts showed clear ignorance on the subject.

That little snippet is outdated now. Theres a way to find out how old a page is, google it to find out how "

I think the 2014 date was a clue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As for the nicotine implications, I've never looked in to it but a quick look makes it clear they're in no way certain about its safety:

A 2014 American Heart Association policy statement found that some health concerns relate to nicotine. Experimental research suggests that adolescent nicotine use may harm brain development.Children exposed to nicotine may have a number of lifelong health issues.

Ahh google is your friend i see?

Bit late now, your earlier posts showed clear ignorance on the subject.

That little snippet is outdated now. Theres a way to find out how old a page is, google it to find out how

I think the 2014 date was a clue "

Oh i got it, the fact that you sought to use it to base your arguement meant you didnt read whay you wrote.

I just assumed it was copy and paste

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I gave up smoking over 15 years ago but I do vape cbd oil for my fibro.

Vaping is not the same as smoking. I would meet a vaper but not a smoker. Xxx

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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Eh, why would I care about anyone's opinion but my own and my doctor's. Vaping stops me from being grumpy, and I smell a hell of a lot better than I used to.

I don't get colds, bronchitis, throat and ear infections like I used to. But in the end, I don't give a fuck what anyone says. I'm a vaper, and I plan on outliving the lot of you.

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over a year ago


"they could also just stop smoking...

Oh and they have it seems!, I know it's hard but smoking and vaping are different

It's just a new way of sating a nicotine addiction

And those who vape on 0 nicotine? "

xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to smoke and used vaping as a tool to give up smoking.

But I have to agree that now as a non smoker that vaping is also gross!

Not as stinky as fags but still gross!

It's only since I stopped all of it I realised

I would rather not be around someone puffing clouds of strawberry vapour or someone with a fag.

I had to be a non smoker to understand

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How do you guys feel about Hookah?

I enjoy hookah bars .. Am I a smoker?

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over a year ago


"if you'd read it you'd have seen that I stated it wasn't something I've looked in to. Now that I have it's already evident your previous arguments are bollocks.

Bottom line:

- They don't know the health implications of vaping

- They don't know the health implications of nicotine

- vaping stinks

- vaping makes you look ridiculous

- addicts will talk shit to justify their addiction"

And self righteous people will talk shit to justify their judgmentalism when they can't base their arguement on facts.....

And yet, you continue to evade the question on those who vape on zero nicotine!

And yes! Current, and latest (not 2014, we're in 2016 by the way) research shows there are no implication from Vaping, and nicotine is as harmful as a caffeine. That's what I care about.

The fact you think it looks silly and stinks I really don't care, in the same way that I think your attitude looks silly and stinks....

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over a year ago


"if you'd read it you'd have seen that I stated it wasn't something I've looked in to. Now that I have it's already evident your previous arguments are bollocks.

Bottom line:

- They don't know the health implications of vaping

- They don't know the health implications of nicotine

- vaping stinks

- vaping makes you look ridiculous

- addicts will talk shit to justify their addiction

Don't care. Are you going to tell me that eating butter and drinking wine might have a few implications too? I had no idea!

no because we're talking about vaping (apart from those trying to deflect the topic because the truth is uncomfortable for them)"

The truth? You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the ass.

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over a year ago


"if you'd read it you'd have seen that I stated it wasn't something I've looked in to. Now that I have it's already evident your previous arguments are bollocks.

Bottom line:

- They don't know the health implications of vaping

- They don't know the health implications of nicotine

- vaping stinks

- vaping makes you look ridiculous

- addicts will talk shit to justify their addiction

And self righteous people will talk shit to justify their judgmentalism when they can't base their arguement on facts.....

And yet, you continue to evade the question on those who vape on zero nicotine!

And yes! Current, and latest (not 2014, we're in 2016 by the way) research shows there are no implication from Vaping, and nicotine is as harmful as a caffeine. That's what I care about.

The fact you think it looks silly and stinks I really don't care, in the same way that I think your attitude looks silly and stinks...."

er except that that is actual bullshit.

Point me to the evidence that it's safe.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Recent enough?

A 2016 review suggests that "the risks of nicotine without tobacco combustion products (cigarette smoke) are low compared to cigarette smoking, but are still of concern in people with cardiovascular disease." Some studies in people show the possibility that nicotine contributes to acute cardiovascular events in smokers with established cardiovascular disease, and induces pharmacologic effects that might contribute to increased atherosclerosis. Brief nicotine use, such as nicotine medicine, seems to incur a slight cardiovascular risk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is from the US Surgeon General... yesterday!

Nicotine is harmful to the developing brain regardless of whether it's smoked through a traditional cigarette or an e-cigarette, Benard Dreyer, President of American Academy of Pediatrics, said during the press conference.

“Nicotine… regardless of its source is highly addictive and has clear neurotoxic effects especially on the developing brains of adolescent and even into early adulthood,"

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"if you'd read it you'd have seen that I stated it wasn't something I've looked in to. Now that I have it's already evident your previous arguments are bollocks.

Bottom line:

- They don't know the health implications of vaping

- They don't know the health implications of nicotine

- vaping stinks

- vaping makes you look ridiculous

- addicts will talk shit to justify their addiction

Don't care. Are you going to tell me that eating butter and drinking wine might have a few implications too? I had no idea!

no because we're talking about vaping (apart from those trying to deflect the topic because the truth is uncomfortable for them)"

You are talking about health implications. There are many things out there with worse health implications than vaping.

The fact is that every scientific study so far has proved that vaping even the higher percentage nicotine is healthier than smoking. There's just no comparison.

And I don't care what I look like.

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over a year ago


"if you'd read it you'd have seen that I stated it wasn't something I've looked in to. Now that I have it's already evident your previous arguments are bollocks."

ROFLMAO you're saying I'm talking bollocks after you've done 5 minutes of googling on the subject?

If Google had been around Darwin would've been fucked!

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over a year ago


"if you'd read it you'd have seen that I stated it wasn't something I've looked in to. Now that I have it's already evident your previous arguments are bollocks.

Bottom line:

- They don't know the health implications of vaping

- They don't know the health implications of nicotine

- vaping stinks

- vaping makes you look ridiculous

- addicts will talk shit to justify their addiction

Don't care. Are you going to tell me that eating butter and drinking wine might have a few implications too? I had no idea!

no because we're talking about vaping (apart from those trying to deflect the topic because the truth is uncomfortable for them)

You are talking about health implications. There are many things out there with worse health implications than vaping.

The fact is that every scientific study so far has proved that vaping even the higher percentage nicotine is healthier than smoking. There's just no comparison.

And I don't care what I look like."

I'm only talking about health implications because of the earlier comments. However the fact is that they're unknown with regard to the health implications, meaning we have no idea what impact they have on those who use them directly or passively.

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"if you'd read it you'd have seen that I stated it wasn't something I've looked in to. Now that I have it's already evident your previous arguments are bollocks.

ROFLMAO you're saying I'm talking bollocks after you've done 5 minutes of googling on the subject?

If Google had been around Darwin would've been fucked! "

At least you're consistent in talking it

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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"if you'd read it you'd have seen that I stated it wasn't something I've looked in to. Now that I have it's already evident your previous arguments are bollocks.

Bottom line:

- They don't know the health implications of vaping

- They don't know the health implications of nicotine

- vaping stinks

- vaping makes you look ridiculous

- addicts will talk shit to justify their addiction

Don't care. Are you going to tell me that eating butter and drinking wine might have a few implications too? I had no idea!

no because we're talking about vaping (apart from those trying to deflect the topic because the truth is uncomfortable for them)

You are talking about health implications. There are many things out there with worse health implications than vaping.

The fact is that every scientific study so far has proved that vaping even the higher percentage nicotine is healthier than smoking. There's just no comparison.

And I don't care what I look like.

I'm only talking about health implications because of the earlier comments. However the fact is that they're unknown with regard to the health implications, meaning we have no idea what impact they have on those who use them directly or passively."

So? Don't meet vapers.

You don't change people by lecturing them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So we have established that nicotine is harmful but what about those of us who vape 0 nicotine?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

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"if you'd read it you'd have seen that I stated it wasn't something I've looked in to. Now that I have it's already evident your previous arguments are bollocks.

ROFLMAO you're saying I'm talking bollocks after you've done 5 minutes of googling on the subject?

If Google had been around Darwin would've been fucked! "

He wouldn't have lasted 5 fucking minutes on this site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is from the US Surgeon General... yesterday!

Nicotine is harmful to the developing brain regardless of whether it's smoked through a traditional cigarette or an e-cigarette, Benard Dreyer, President of American Academy of Pediatrics, said during the press conference.

“Nicotine… regardless of its source is highly addictive and has clear neurotoxic effects especially on the developing brains of adolescent and even into early adulthood," "

Lol, bless you, University students across the world can rejoice! They can now write their thesis after 5 minutes of googling.

If nothing else you are entertaining

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over a year ago


"So we have established that nicotine is harmful but what about those of us who vape 0 nicotine?"

Still smells

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over a year ago


"So we have established that nicotine is harmful but what about those of us who vape 0 nicotine?"

I wouldn't bother, they've been asked several times and have avoided the question.

At least give them a few minutes to google an answer

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over a year ago


"So we have established that nicotine is harmful but what about those of us who vape 0 nicotine?

Still smells "

Ok, I'll,let you off, you can't have googled that one surely?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you'd read it you'd have seen that I stated it wasn't something I've looked in to. Now that I have it's already evident your previous arguments are bollocks.

Bottom line:

- They don't know the health implications of vaping

- They don't know the health implications of nicotine

- vaping stinks

- vaping makes you look ridiculous

- addicts will talk shit to justify their addiction

Don't care. Are you going to tell me that eating butter and drinking wine might have a few implications too? I had no idea!

no because we're talking about vaping (apart from those trying to deflect the topic because the truth is uncomfortable for them)

You are talking about health implications. There are many things out there with worse health implications than vaping.

The fact is that every scientific study so far has proved that vaping even the higher percentage nicotine is healthier than smoking. There's just no comparison.

And I don't care what I look like.

I'm only talking about health implications because of the earlier comments. However the fact is that they're unknown with regard to the health implications, meaning we have no idea what impact they have on those who use them directly or passively.

So? Don't meet vapers.

You don't change people by lecturing them."

Who said anything about who we meet?

We meet and have friends who smoke and who vape. This is a discussion about what people think of it about which I think it stinks, looks silly and has unknown health risks.

If people have an issue with that I think the issue is with them.

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"So we have established that nicotine is harmful but what about those of us who vape 0 nicotine?

Still smells

Ok, I'll,let you off, you can't have googled that one surely? "

Sorry have I missed the bit where you're a professor with the definitive findings on the safety of vaping?

Because all I've seen is you throwing in some bullshit with a lot of self conviction but absolutely nothing to back up your argument.

If you've deluded yourself you're an expert then that's nice. But worthless.

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"So we have established that nicotine is harmful but what about those of us who vape 0 nicotine?

Still smells "

Smells a dam site better than fags. I just small earthy xxx

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"So we have established that nicotine is harmful but what about those of us who vape 0 nicotine?

Still smells

Smells a dam site better than fags. I just small earthy xxx"

Earthy? What are you putting in it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah good old Darwin....

I expect his theory of smoking evolution would indeed have been to boil a suspension liquid on top of a battery in order to extract nicotine instead of burning countless chemicals and inhaling it.

I smoked for 15 years, heavily, now I vape.

It's better, I'm healthier, I can smell things now, I can taste my food, my vaping doesn't offend anyone I have encountered.

I'm absolutely sure it's no worse for me than not vaping but it's better than smoking.

I'm also pretty sure the two bottles of Chablis I just polished off aren't doing my health much good.

;)

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over a year ago


"So we have established that nicotine is harmful but what about those of us who vape 0 nicotine?

Still smells

Smells a dam site better than fags. I just small earthy xxx

Earthy? What are you putting in it? "

Google cbd oil. xxx

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"Ah good old Darwin....

I expect his theory of smoking evolution would indeed have been to boil a suspension liquid on top of a battery in order to extract nicotine instead of burning countless chemicals and inhaling it.

I smoked for 15 years, heavily, now I vape.

It's better, I'm healthier, I can smell things now, I can taste my food, my vaping doesn't offend anyone I have encountered.

I'm absolutely sure it's no worse for me than not vaping but it's better than smoking.

I'm also pretty sure the two bottles of Chablis I just polished off aren't doing my health much good.

;)"

No they're good for you. And coffee and chocolate and butter

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"So we have established that nicotine is harmful but what about those of us who vape 0 nicotine?

Still smells

Ok, I'll,let you off, you can't have googled that one surely?

Sorry have I missed the bit where you're a professor with the definitive findings on the safety of vaping?

Because all I've seen is you throwing in some bullshit with a lot of self conviction but absolutely nothing to back up your argument.

If you've deluded yourself you're an expert then that's nice. But worthless."

I've not once pretended to be an expert, but I can honestly say I've done more research than 5 minutes of googling., which is why I don't feel a need to justify myself with copy and paste.

Neither am I the one who admitted on this thread to not knowing much about the subject, and then having a quick browse and going all judgmental and self righteous on people, based on a 5 minute Google.

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"So we have established that nicotine is harmful but what about those of us who vape 0 nicotine?

Still smells

Smells a dam site better than fags. I just small earthy xxx

Earthy? What are you putting in it?

Google cbd oil. xxx"

I don't think that's earthy

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"As for the health implications the NHS guidance is:

It may come as a surprise to many that we don't know exactly what is in e-cigarettes and the effect they have on health, especially given that there are more than 7,000 different "e-cigarette flavours" and the devices are used by millions.

E-cigarettes are currently unregulated, meaning there is no standardisation or medical control over what is in them, although this is set to change in 2016.

And because they haven't been around long, there is precious little research informing us about the effect they have on health. As such, there is a lot of debate about whether they are good or bad for health.

One side says e-cigarettes are a much safer alternative to regular tobacco smoking as they don't contain cancer-causing chemicals, just the additive substance nicotine. A recent evidence review by Public Health England concluded they are 95% safer than regular cigarettes.

The other side of the argument says the vapour may still damage lungs in as yet unknown ways, and the widespread uptake of vaping may normalise smoking again, leading to more people – especially young adults – taking up the tobacco version.

Marketing of sweet and fruit e-cig flavours to kids and young adults has also come under the spotlight, especially when they can choose between flavours like cherry crush and alien blood.

Irrespective of which side of the debate you're on, one thing is for sure: we lack information about what is in e-cigs and how they affect health. Most research has focused on the nicotine in the devices, rather than the chemical content beyond this.

At present, there are more questions than answers. There's little doubt not smoking tobacco or e-cigarettes is the best way to reduce your risk. "

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"So we have established that nicotine is harmful but what about those of us who vape 0 nicotine?

Still smells

Smells a dam site better than fags. I just small earthy xxx"

I smell like apple pie & custard

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over a year ago


"So we have established that nicotine is harmful but what about those of us who vape 0 nicotine?

Still smells

Smells a dam site better than fags. I just small earthy xxx

Earthy? What are you putting in it?

Google cbd oil. xxx

I don't think that's earthy "

It reminds me of a freshly mowen lawn. xxx

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over a year ago

A cigarette produces smoke

A ecig produces vapour

Simples

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over a year ago


"So we have established that nicotine is harmful but what about those of us who vape 0 nicotine?

Still smells

Smells a dam site better than fags. I just small earthy xxx

I smell like apple pie & custard "

Hahaha you'll have people lickin you! Xxx

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over a year ago

Let's address the elephant in the room....

Overweight people should not be smoking or vaping until they lose some weight

(Cue onslaught of comments from people who are indeeed overweight and have A: had too much to drink and are furiously typing, but slowly due to their battle with predictive text and B: people who know someone who is overweight and feel sorry for them)

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over a year ago

There was a little joke in there by the way guys

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over a year ago


"Ah good old Darwin....

I expect his theory of smoking evolution would indeed have been to boil a suspension liquid on top of a battery in order to extract nicotine instead of burning countless chemicals and inhaling it.

I smoked for 15 years, heavily, now I vape.

It's better, I'm healthier, I can smell things now, I can taste my food, my vaping doesn't offend anyone I have encountered.

I'm absolutely sure it's no worse for me than not vaping but it's better than smoking.

I'm also pretty sure the two bottles of Chablis I just polished off aren't doing my health much good.

;)

No they're good for you. And coffee and chocolate and butter "

Oh dear, coffee contains caffeine which after 5 milliseconds of googling I find is a health risk, I don't like the smell of it and I think people look stupid walking around drinking out of cardboard cups, ban it I say, ban it now for the good of the children.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"A cigarette produces smoke

A ecig produces vapour

Simples "

They've found it's good for asthmatics. Must be very unhealthy.

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over a year ago

Smiths, shame mr isn't bi as I would love to vape myself silly whilst gagging on his cock

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over a year ago


"

I've not once pretended to be an expert

My apologies. I confused you with the people with the same avatar and same name talking shit throughout the rest of the thread.

Lol, yet your quick google of the "facts" means you haven't been talking shit.

Your awesome!

*takes a modest bow*

Thanks."

Even more awesome!

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over a year ago


"A cigarette produces smoke

A ecig produces vapour

Simples

They've found it's good for asthmatics. Must be very unhealthy."

Who has?

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over a year ago


"

I've not once pretended to be an expert

My apologies. I confused you with the people with the same avatar and same name talking shit throughout the rest of the thread. "

Fucking Irony explosion!

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"A cigarette produces smoke

A ecig produces vapour

Simples

They've found it's good for asthmatics. Must be very unhealthy.

Who has?"

Experts.

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over a year ago


"A cigarette produces smoke

A ecig produces vapour

Simples

They've found it's good for asthmatics. Must be very unhealthy.

Who has?"

Google? If so it MUST be true

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over a year ago


"

I've not once pretended to be an expert

My apologies. I confused you with the people with the same avatar and same name talking shit throughout the rest of the thread.

Fucking Irony explosion! "

I'm literally crying

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over a year ago


"A cigarette produces smoke

A ecig produces vapour

Simples

They've found it's good for asthmatics. Must be very unhealthy.

Who has?"

PG, a base ingredient for e-liquid is also the solvent for many asthma inhalers, but being a google expert you already knew that, right?

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over a year ago

If I did I'd probably find something like this:

A new study recently presented during the European Respiratory Society congress, in Munich – the world’s biggest respiratory meeting – suggests using electronic cigarettes may cause serious respiratory conditions like asthma and emphysema.

But that wouldn't be worthy of the opinions of a couple of addicts. I understand.

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over a year ago


"If I did I'd probably find something like this:

A new study recently presented during the European Respiratory Society congress, in Munich – the world’s biggest respiratory meeting – suggests using electronic cigarettes may cause serious respiratory conditions like asthma and emphysema.

But that wouldn't be worthy of the opinions of a couple of addicts. I understand."

Cbd oil helps asthma anxiety insomnia and pain. Oh n it's none adictive cos those bits have been taken out. xxx

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"If I did I'd probably find something like this:

A new study recently presented during the European Respiratory Society congress, in Munich – the world’s biggest respiratory meeting – suggests using electronic cigarettes may cause serious respiratory conditions like asthma and emphysema.

But that wouldn't be worthy of the opinions of a couple of addicts. I understand."

Bless you. I assume you've had a bad run in with some horrible vapers. Our scented steam must be vexing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or what I vape, VG, vegetable glycerine, wait for it...

It's what makes up the bulk of the liquid you give your children when they have a cough.

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over a year ago

And anyone who has an issue with the potential damage caused by vaping.

Go to your bathroom and remove every product containing propylene glycol or any derivative of glycol infact, then post a list of what you just removed.

Oh and post a photo of how you look without your make up tomorrow

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