FabSwingers.com forum: No kissing but will have sex

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
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over a year ago

My Own Little World

A question that has been asked many, many times on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no kissing ???? then no play

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't play without kissing. A good snog is such a turn on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Preference like many others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not about right or wrong.

Some couples prefer to keep something intimate for just between themselves.

That's fair enough, we just avoid those couples or women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

in the missionary position for instance your mouths are close, how can you NOT kiss ????????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kissing is one of the best parts...

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By *odramafunCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire/staffordshire

As a couple we are the opposite... He insists kissing is integral on a meet whereas I am cautious..... He thinks this is odd but I guess for me fab is about nice people and fucking but not intimacy.... Seems to work ok and always honest with those we meet

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!

Quite right filthy habit kissing!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My Wife with my full permission, indeed encouragement has a regular buddy. Strangely and I have no idea why, but she refuses to kiss saying that is reserved for me.

Somehow, it seems that kissing is more intimate than a Cock?

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By *addysdadCouple
over a year ago

southern Cumbria

We both find kissing such a turn on, would not want to meet people who dont, but fully respect their decisions.

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By *olden_Road_to_SamarkandMan
over a year ago

North Wessex Downs

"no kissing ???? then no play"

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"no kissing ???? then no play"

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By *olden_Road_to_SamarkandMan
over a year ago

North Wessex Downs

"Kissing is one of the best parts... "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a preference; my preference is a full on snog fest.. just to get the juices flowing

Each to their own

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?"

Is it not their choice?

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?"

Some seem to think a kiss is more intimate than being fucked.

We cannot understand that opinion but everyone is different

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple
over a year ago

Halifax

Each to their own ,but it wouldnt work for us.Kissing is all part of the build up,would feel too cold without kisses.

Miss

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It doesn't work with me .I wouldn't want sex with anyone who wouldn't kiss me .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would not work for me, kissing is a must as part of the build up

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?"

Those are just their values.

It takes all sorts to make a world.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can understand why some people feel it is particularly intimate and want to reserve it for their partner. Personally, I don't think I could play without kissing. For me, it's a basic element of sex and I'd have to constantly remember to stop myself. It would put a distance between me and the woman I was with and leave the whole experience feeling very empty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a personal choice

Kinky

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

I blame Pretty Woman..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?"

I know!

. A couple said that to me. You can fuck and suck my husband but you can never kiss him on his lips. How very strange!

Another time a lady said I'd be her play thing but I'm not allowed near her husband. He will be there to watch only. Hmm no thanks I'm not any woman's sex toy.

Fair to say I turned both down and after awhile, I gave up on the idea of couples. Sticking to single guys is much more straight forward I've found.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If people are happy to meet with people who don't kiss on the mouth, that's entirely up to them. Everybody wants different things. But I personally would not meet anyone who had those play rules. I enjoy kissing too much, and would never be able to sacrifice that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I seldom kiss apart from a peck on the check..tongues down throat only for someone I feel very turned on with...that's why I seldom have penetrative sex with folk on fab

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?

I know!

. A couple said that to me. You can fuck and suck my husband but you can never kiss him on his lips. How very strange!

Another time a lady said I'd be her play thing but I'm not allowed near her husband. He will be there to watch only. Hmm no thanks I'm not any woman's sex toy.

Fair to say I turned both down and after awhile, I gave up on the idea of couples. Sticking to single guys is much more straight forward I've found. "
agree with u x

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By *eliz NelsonMan
over a year ago

The Tantric Tea Shop

Kissing can be a real turn on but usually my lips are elsewhere

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"in the missionary position for instance your mouths are close, how can you NOT kiss ????????"

Exactly.....it would just feel weird??

Each to there own I guess, but I'd want to know up front as it just wouldn't work for me?

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By *arehamMan
over a year ago

handforth

They will suck your dick but won't kiss you which is the most cleanest?

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By *imply_SensualMan
over a year ago

warrington

Kissing, or lack of, would be a deal breaker for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

not for us but respect others - plenty of options here for everybody

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dislike kissing on occasion, part of it is that there are some extremely bad kisses out there and when a think fat tongue is shoved down my throat I find it a turn off, unfortunately I find a lot think that's how to kiss when to me it isn't so sometimes it's just easier to say no to kissing, it's just personal preference

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kissed*

Thick*

Stupid auto

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?"

because they have an absolute right to conduct themselves as they wish.

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By *relanddirectMan
over a year ago

cheshire

Each to their own but kissing is simply a must!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been a non-kisser for some time. Kissing is great but i associate it with emotional attachment so avoided it. However.. I have a fab date tomorrow night and it looks like kissing is on the agenda!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've been a non-kisser for some time. Kissing is great but i associate it with emotional attachment so avoided it. However.. I have a fab date tomorrow night and it looks like kissing is on the agenda! "

enjoy - usually once i start to kiss the rest follows naturally

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

We will kiss on meets, not hung up on it, but respect others who don't want to, if they do that can be nice too.

It's a personal preference the same as any other.

Kissing seems to be a subject that on previous threads turns into a witch-hunt against the non-kissers, where they end up two steps below bare-backers.

Respect peoples choices! Just meet someone else if you don't match up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kissing for me is mandatory. I would never consider having sex with anyone if I couldn't kiss them.

This is a problem I encounter when trying to have fun with a couple. The female will come out with a list of do's and dont's, one of the main ones being no kissing her man. Then couples seem astounded that they can't find a willing female. I won't do "empty clinical" sex for anyone. I'm a person, not just a f**k toy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No kissing , no sex for us

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?"

Each to there own in my case no kissing no nothing .

Kissing is number four on my check list of things I require to be inspired to play .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't understand it personally. Kissing is part of making a passionate connection and builds up the desire to do more.

I had a meet the other day and the kissing was so amazing, we just couldn't stop the whole time we were playing... it was so good!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are one of the odd couples that won't kiss..our choice. But I can honestly say that we have met couples who insist that kissing is a 'must ' then say well its not really important and met us for fun!!! Hypocrites

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By *imetoexplore69Couple
over a year ago

Aberdeen

gona be the first couple to jump in and say we dont kiss on meets. we kiss each other when we feel intimate together emotionally and the sex is different so i suppose its a way of keeping something unique for ourselves .when we fuck we just fuck lol whether that be with others or ourselves but can understand why singles or some couples may find that strange.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think it's a bad thing if you prefer not to kiss. Just as long as it's spoken about before so that people can decide if they want to meet on that basis. I think I'd struggle not to kiss as it's such an important part of sex for me...

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By *hloe sussexTV/TS
over a year ago

Larne

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?"

Dunno it's cold apparently prostitutes don't kiss as it brings in emotion and connection clearly some ppl just want the act,with no feeling ,I'd say give those ppl a wide birth and let them see hookers if that's scenario they seek ,perhaps they don't want to pay lol

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By *LUKCouple
over a year ago

Loughborough

We hooked up with a couple at a club and it was only when we went to a playroom that they decided to tell us their no kissing rule. It was actually quite difficult and frustrating. Both of us kept going in for a kiss out of habit and then had to stop ourselves; you find yourself concentrating more on refraining from kissing rather than enjoying the moment.

It was after that experience we set our "No kissing, no play" rule.

Another time we exchanged a few messages with another couple before they told us their version of the no kissing rule. The girls we're allowed kiss each other but I wasn't allowed kiss her and Mrs JLUK wasn't allowed kiss him. I found that a bit weird to be honest, so we didn't meet.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?

xx"

We're part of the pariah group that won't kiss. I'm not a prostitute and I don't see them either. I'm not sure why you feel it's ok to insult me so over a simple preference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?

xx"

Lol.. Have you bothered to read the comments from those who prefer not to?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?"

Because I don't really like kissing random strangers but I do enjoy fucking them...

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds

Its funny how many men claim that "kissing is a must" yet never once has a guy in a club shown any objection or even the slightest hesitation to fucking me because I wouldn't kiss him.

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By *imetoexplore69Couple
over a year ago

Aberdeen

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?

xx"
em ok then mate.you compare swingers that dont kiss to prostitutes and they should just use them yet u brag on your profile that you used to earn alot of money being a phone sex girl on a different website.hypocritical dont you think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Each to there own

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They will suck your dick but won't kiss you which is the most cleanest?

probably the freshly washed dick to be honest...have you got any idea how much bacteria there is in the human mouth?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't get it myself and quite literally can't imagine not being able to kiss...I just can't envisage how it could happen..... and never experienced it....but then I don't think it's right to judge people..... if they are clear beforehand then it's fine, surely?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its funny how many men claim that "kissing is a must" yet never once has a guy in a club shown any objection or even the slightest hesitation to fucking me because I wouldn't kiss him.

Exactly this. I think it depends entirely on the circumstances and the person involved too..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?

xx"

that is a bizarre assumption..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find it totally incredible that some women think that kissing is too intimate and is for partner only, yet will suck cock , swallow and rim lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have you all been watching pretty woman

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By *lacklondontvloverMan
over a year ago

London

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?"

Some people see kissing as very intimate and the preserve of them and their partners relationship. In a way it's no different from setting boundaries about other parts of their swinging. Some couples might only want to do same room but only with their partners swinging, others might want oral only and no penetrative sex.

Everyone has the right to choose what they wish to do with their own bodies IMHO.

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By *asonnosaMMan
over a year ago

Grantham

kissing has so much meaning when having sex I just can't help it the neck the lips tongue,and especially in foreplay the build up the tension the way you kiss sets the standard for what kind of sex you will have and how your partner is,also I love to suck on a tongue when I'm trying to come on top really helps and feels so hot

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By *orkie321bWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

A lot of people choose not to kiss and i choose not to meet them. Its no big deal for any of us. The non kissers can meet other non kissers and those of us who like the kissing can meet each other.

Nothing gets me going more than a nice hot, steamy snog

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?"

equally why do some people think they have the right to question another persons choices..

accept and respect others, its not rocket science..

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By *eovilcouple76Couple
over a year ago

yeovil

When we started out,, I said I wouldn't want to kiss any other guys,, that changed on very first meet,, it's a great way to start the build up,, wouldn't want it any other way

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

To sum up many responses here:

"People think differently to me but do me no harm, they are idiots."

Come on guys, you are better than this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends, through personal choice, if we met someone from here, no kissing, our choice and we'd be upfront about that.

Within our party scene, depending on what the other couple (s) preferences or boundaries were, we'd kiss.

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By *er_kateCouple
over a year ago

manchester

"As a couple we are the opposite... He insists kissing is integral on a meet whereas I am cautious..... He thinks this is odd but I guess for me fab is about nice people and fucking but not intimacy.... Seems to work ok and always honest with those we meet "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?

equally why do some people think they have the right to question another persons choices..

accept and respect others, its not rocket science.."

We agree totally.

Are people not allowed choices?

Is there a wrong or right way here?

We just don't get it being honest.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Its funny how many men claim that "kissing is a must" yet never once has a guy in a club shown any objection or even the slightest hesitation to fucking me because I wouldn't kiss him.

I love to kiss other women, and don't mind my partner kissing other women but I am not interested in kissing other men. Kissing and post coital cuddling are levels of intimacy I want to share only with my partner. It's just a preference, and I'm not at all worried that others might not understand it- if they want to avoid me because of this particular preference that's fine, but so far no one has."
yet having a cock inside of u isn't intimacy then?? I find that hard to understand, but like people are and have said personal choice, we wouldn't meet anyone who won't kiss simple as that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its funny how many men claim that "kissing is a must" yet never once has a guy in a club shown any objection or even the slightest hesitation to fucking me because I wouldn't kiss him.

I love to kiss other women, and don't mind my partner kissing other women but I am not interested in kissing other men. Kissing and post coital cuddling are levels of intimacy I want to share only with my partner. It's just a preference, and I'm not at all worried that others might not understand it- if they want to avoid me because of this particular preference that's fine, but so far no one has. yet having a cock inside of u isn't intimacy then?? I find that hard to understand, but like people are and have said personal choice, we wouldn't meet anyone who won't kiss simple as that "

If I'm at a party and I'm getting hammered from behind by a random man I've only just met that night...it's about as far from intimacy as you can get to be honest...I don't think he's necessarily going to insist that I kiss him first either...do you?

other people play in entirely different ways to you...if they're not for you, it's fine, you're probably not for them either...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kissing and cuddling are for relationships.

I meet for sex. Just sex.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?"
God no I have to have both as love kissing not just lips.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"Its funny how many men claim that "kissing is a must" yet never once has a guy in a club shown any objection or even the slightest hesitation to fucking me because I wouldn't kiss him.

Yes, there are lots of guys in clubs who stick their cocks through gloryholes, or stand wanking next to playing couples, they are normally ready to join in regardless

We will kiss couples during play, it's no biggy either way for us. There is normally much more , and more passionate, girl/girl kissing in our meets.

As you say live and let live.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you know if a person never kissed me I would think he never liked me .

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?

equally why do some people think they have the right to question another persons choices..

accept and respect others, its not rocket science..

We agree totally.

Are people not allowed choices?

Is there a wrong or right way here?

We just don't get it being honest. "

Nor us

Funny enough we both enjoy kissing others but if that's not for them then fine

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By *tephanie19631TV/TS
over a year ago

oxford

Halitosis ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I blame Pretty Woman.."

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By *hloe sussexTV/TS
over a year ago

Larne

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Down to personal choice but for me its the long, hungry, slow kisses that initiate it. Cant be a long greedy kiss in my opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My only feeling is that it stems from the film Pretty Woman where she wouldnt kiss her 'clients' as it was something she kept for romance purpose only.

The strange thing is, when you met someone for the first time in a vanilla situation (or even non vanilla) and theres an attraction, one of the first things you would do is kiss... from there it may or may not lead anywhere.

However in the swinging world some people will do everything else but kiss!

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By *ishopstippleMan
over a year ago

Purley

"Halitosis ?"

A non-medical, medical sounding name invented by a company that sold its floor cleaner as a mouthwash.

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?

Some seem to think a kiss is more intimate than being fucked.

We cannot understand that opinion but everyone is different"

When you actually think about it.. fucking someone from behind isn't really that intimate, is it? Whereas, kissing, you're literally in each others' faces, eye contact, the lot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Down to personal choice but for me its the long, hungry, slow kisses that initiate it. Cant be a long greedy kiss in my opinion

Exactly, I love long slow sensual kisses, gets me worked up beyond belief!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I blame Pretty Woman.."

me too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?

Some seem to think a kiss is more intimate than being fucked.

We cannot understand that opinion but everyone is different

When you actually think about it.. fucking someone from behind isn't really that intimate, is it? Whereas, kissing, you're literally in each others' faces, eye contact, the lot. "
If you got something nasty and told at the gum it would be very intimate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wont meet men who wont kiss

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

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"Kissing and cuddling are for relationships.

I meet for sex. Just sex.

Again, we're all different. Kissing and cuddling IS part of sex, for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No kissing no sex

And if the kissing is crap then I go no further

For me kissing is the ultimate foreplay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No kissing no sex

And if the kissing is crap then I go no further

For me kissing is the ultimate foreplay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Kissing and cuddling are for relationships.

I meet for sex. Just sex.

Again, we're all different. Kissing and cuddling IS part of sex, for me.

It is for me to

No kissing or cuddles before, during or after sex is just so cold and I don't do cold unintimate sex

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy

"Kissing and cuddling are for relationships.

I meet for sex. Just sex.

Again, we're all different. Kissing and cuddling IS part of sex, for me.

It is for me to

No kissing or cuddles before, during or after sex is just so cold and I don't do cold unintimate sex"

No, I can't do that sex either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?"

No kissing = no sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No kissing

that's a no thanks then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Down to personal choice but for me its the long, hungry, slow kisses that initiate it. Cant be a long greedy kiss in my opinion

Exactly, I love long slow sensual kisses, gets me worked up beyond belief!! "

Good to know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kissing is an essential part of the sexual excitement for us. We will not just fuck... we need to get all in when it comes to the physical side of things. Our girls always get plenty of kisses in plenty of places on their body, and that includes the mouth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Kissing and cuddling are for relationships.

I meet for sex. Just sex.

Again, we're all different. Kissing and cuddling IS part of sex, for me.

It is for me to

No kissing or cuddles before, during or after sex is just so cold and I don't do cold unintimate sex

No, I can't do that sex either. "

To do that sex you may as well go out and pay for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Notice it's only couples (99.9%) that have the no kissing rule!!! ........issues or what?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Cor! You lot who insist on kissing aren't half rude about us that don't.

Cold, prostitutes, issues

some big assumptions and massive insults there.

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over a year ago

I love kissing and would be disappointed if a guy (or girl) didn't want to, but it wouldn't be an issue, I d still fuck them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I blame Pretty Woman.."

But she kissed him when he was asleep .

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe

Unless BOTH lips are to be kisssd then it's no

from us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?"

Its a load of bollocks but a great filter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone is entitled to their own likes/dislikes, do's/dont's , for a site that it meant to be open minded and non judgemental shame some are so quick to comndem those that don't share their own views. What is for some isn't for others.IMHO

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"Everyone is entitled to their own likes/dislikes, do's/dont's , for a site that it meant to be open minded and non judgemental shame some are so quick to comndem those that don't share their own views. What is for some isn't for others.IMHO"

Exactly!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?

Its a load of bollocks but a great filter"

That filter works both ways

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over a year ago

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?

Its a load of bollocks but a great filter

That filter works both ways

Lol you've gotta love a good filter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

U can't have sex without kissing kissing is the bees knees to get someone going and is do much of a turn on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We both find kissing such a turn on, would not want to meet people who dont, but fully respect their decisions."

We totally agree with you

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over a year ago

For those who have a 'no kissing rule', have they forgotten how much fun it was to have a care-free snog at the school dance or behind the bike sheds? Or did they just miss out of that freedom? I cannot for the life of me understand how kissing can be considered 'too intimate' - I've been snogging since I was thirteen! Sex was reserved for 'that special person' when I was a teenager and young adult, but kissing was the bread and butter. Why does it become the other way round on the swing scene?

Mrs

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over a year ago

"For those who have a 'no kissing rule', have they forgotten how much fun it was to have a care-free snog at the school dance or behind the bike sheds? Or did they just miss out of that freedom? I cannot for the life of me understand how kissing can be considered 'too intimate' - I've been snogging since I was thirteen! Sex was reserved for 'that special person' when I was a teenager and young adult, but kissing was the bread and butter. Why does it become the other way round on the swing scene?

Mrs"

Very well worded. My thoughts exactly. To me, sex is so much more intimate than kissing.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

No kissing then will not have sex

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By *van ArdenMan
over a year ago

Coleford, Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire.

I appreciate a lovely sloppy kisser as a preamble to horny fun. It's all part of the play in my opinion.

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By *ungBlackTopMan
over a year ago

salford

it is very strange. happy to suck me dick, eat my ass, drink my spunk but not to kiss.....hahaha what goons and no I don't have rotten teeth and bad breath. I'm always complimented on my pearly whites. To be fair it's usually the "straight" men that don't kiss. Reckon they still feel straight if they don't snog another man but it's ok to suck cock hahahahaha

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Mrs"

why do you assume that people have the same definition of intimacy as you?

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over a year ago

Mrs

why do you assume that people have the same definition of intimacy as you?"

I certainly don't assume that! On the swing scene it's clear people don't have the same definition of intimacy as me. But my memories as a teenager and young adult was that everybody I knew regarded sex as more intimate than kissing. Then when I joined the swing scene I discovered that some people regarded kissing as more intimate than sex. I've always been intrigued as to why.

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By *weeteamCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool

Me and Zoe rarely kiss during sex.But she never stopped on her meet.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Mrs

why do you assume that people have the same definition of intimacy as you?

Well I don't think any of us are reserving sex for 'that special person' so it seems that the teenage values have been turned on their head.

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over a year ago

Mrs

why do you assume that people have the same definition of intimacy as you?

Well I don't think any of us are reserving sex for 'that special person' so it seems that the teenage values have been turned on their head.

I see it as kissing and sex have sort of 'swapped' position with regards to intimacy levels. Not just with teenage values, but adult vanilla values too. As an earlier poster said,in the vanilla world a kiss comes before any other sexual act. Certainly if done on a d*unken night out it would rarely considered particular intimate, and certainly not assumed to be a prelude to sex. But since becoming a swinger, although I'm not against kissing, I too find sexual acts often take place before kissing. This has often left me reflecting on why these activities have sort of 'reversed' in the swing scene.

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

East Sussex

Mrs

why do you assume that people have the same definition of intimacy as you?

Well I don't think any of us are reserving sex for 'that special person' so it seems that the teenage values have been turned on their head.

I think everyone has their own level of acceptable intimacy

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By *empsey and hotpieceMan
over a year ago

North west

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?"

Kissing is intimate, fucking people you have no feelings for isn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are many men that I've had a d*unken kiss with on a night out, but to have sex with them is a totally different thing. Having a man enter inside your body is much more intimate than a kiss where there's only lips and tongue involved. But that is just my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?"
What about just maybe they dont enjoy it with others...

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over a year ago

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?

Kissing is intimate, fucking people you have no feelings for isn't."

I have to 100% disagree with this. Allowing someone inside you is far more intimate than a kiss or blow job .. in my opinion.

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over a year ago

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?

Kissing is intimate, fucking people you have no feelings for isn't.

I have to 100% disagree with this. Allowing someone inside you is far more intimate than a kiss or blow job .. in my opinion."
see id disagree... to me kissing is very personal and intimate.. sucking cock and fucking not so.

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over a year ago

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?

Kissing is intimate, fucking people you have no feelings for isn't.

I have to 100% disagree with this. Allowing someone inside you is far more intimate than a kiss or blow job .. in my opinion. see id disagree... to me kissing is very personal and intimate.. sucking cock and fucking not so. "

Well everyone is different i guess. Good job really

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

Because it's their profile and they are allowed to do what they WANT. Not what others want. Don't like it then simply move on. No point getting hung up over it.

I kiss other females but not males and Dorian doesn't kiss others because that is what we want to do. It is our preference. We've never had anyone complain or moan about it and never had any issues meeting.

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over a year ago

"Cor! You lot who insist on kissing aren't half rude about us that don't.

Cold, prostitutes, issues

some big assumptions and massive insults there.

Totally agree very rude.

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over a year ago

"Cor! You lot who insist on kissing aren't half rude about us that don't.

Cold, prostitutes, issues

some big assumptions and massive insults there.

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funny that it seems to be the only preference that others get insulting over.. and in here you would think the none kissers cant ever have meets.. funny dont seem to struggle at all.. and still not had a guy this year try to kiss me on a meet. X

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Once again a kissing thread turns into a huge 'who's right' argument.

Some like it, some don't. If you have strong feelings about it, no need to play with those that prefer the other way.

No need to fall out, or prove that your way is 'right' .

Have fun folks xxx

MrB

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Once again a kissing thread turns into a huge 'who's right' argument.

Some like it, some don't. If you have strong feelings about it, no need to play with those that prefer the other way.

No need to fall out, or prove that your way is 'right' .

Have fun folks xxx

MrB"

I agree but I do find myself tested by the kissers who assume they know why us non-kissers choose not to.

I know our way is right...for "us" but I don't presume its right for anyone else.

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over a year ago

"Once again a kissing thread turns into a huge 'who's right' argument.

Some like it, some don't. If you have strong feelings about it, no need to play with those that prefer the other way.

No need to fall out, or prove that your way is 'right' .

Have fun folks xxx

MrB

I agree but I do find myself tested by the kissers who assume they know why us non-kissers choose not to.

I know our way is right...for "us" but I don't presume its right for anyone else."
or that its ok to say we are like prostitutes and cold and empty...

I dont mind that a lot of people need to kiss.. i need a woman to kiss Mr on a meet... I am just glad that most guys seem happy to not even try to kiss me lol

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Nice couple, misscalli,

Understand you being annoyed and standing up for yourself 100% . No need for people bringing down other peoples preferences.

Our last club meet (mfmf) , I don't recall kissing at all maybe a peck,and it was ultra horny, had a group watching intently. Nobody felt like a prostitute - ridiculous statement.

The situation must differ also mf or mmf or ffm or mfmf.

we are happy either way, I find it difficult to understand why this subject makes some people judge others so much.

MrB

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over a year ago

"Nice couple, misscalli,

Understand you being annoyed and standing up for yourself 100% . No need for people bringing down other peoples preferences.

Our last club meet (mfmf) , I don't recall kissing at all maybe a peck,and it was ultra horny, had a group watching intently. Nobody felt like a prostitute - ridiculous statement.

The situation must differ also mf or mmf or ffm or mfmf.

we are happy either way, I find it difficult to understand why this subject makes some people judge others so much.

MrB

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me too and thanks..

To be fair I dont do 121 or straight swaps if at all possible.. and its just one horny pile. I have and do kiss on occassion but with other men it does nothing.. and at times can actually ruin the moment for me. So I will actively avoid without rudely refusing..

Mr adores kissing. I adore watching Mr kiss and if its a mff then i can relax.. of its a mfmf and they both like to kiss I will grab mr for a kiss and try to bring it all back to a 4sum pretty quick so as not to cause offence by not kissing the guy..

It just baffles me the YOU MUST KISS .. ive even had complete strangers pick fault and laugh at clubs when its been discussed.. it makes me uncomfortable and feels to personal

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

In all the meets we've had, kissing has only been pre-discussed once. That couple said they didn't kiss, we said fine, and it was all fun regardless.

Other meets, you can just pick up what people want. Like you describe. Some will kiss a lot, or some might peck, or subtly move to avoid the situation.

There are so many aspects to play that you need to 'feel' as you go along. Gentle, rough, little spank or none, hair pull, clit lots or little, the list goes on. Just kiss how works, lots little or none.

That's just us anyway xx

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over a year ago

"In all the meets we've had, kissing has only been pre-discussed once. That couple said they didn't kiss, we said fine, and it was all fun regardless.

Other meets, you can just pick up what people want. Like you describe. Some will kiss a lot, or some might peck, or subtly move to avoid the situation.

That's just us anyway xx"
we do ask and luckily many couples the guy doesn't seem keen..

Although funniest was a couple we met... the guy put my legs up.. banged me for 5 mins.. then went off to faff with something. Mr and her are still just kissing at this point.. I join in for a bit.. and we had some amazing 3way kisses.. but I thought I best go check on the guy.

So we chat and I ask him how come he didn't want to do foreplay or kissing.. he tells me they have a no kissing rule.. at which point I accidentally used my inner voice as an outty voice and said " Does she know that "..

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Nice couple, misscalli,

Understand you being annoyed and standing up for yourself 100% . No need for people bringing down other peoples preferences.

Our last club meet (mfmf) , I don't recall kissing at all maybe a peck,and it was ultra horny, had a group watching intently. Nobody felt like a prostitute - ridiculous statement.

The situation must differ also mf or mmf or ffm or mfmf.

we are happy either way, I find it difficult to understand why this subject makes some people judge others so much.

MrB

On this subject the judgment goes pretty much one way. I don't see many judgements about people who insist on kissing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apparently if you don't kiss it's not cheating !!!! You got to love married guys logic !!!!

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By *s_macWoman
over a year ago

Traffic land

No kissing no sex

And if the kissing is crap then I go no further

For me kissing is the ultimate foreplay

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?"

Personal preference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sexual psychology always fascinates me and when I first heard about couples on the swing scene with this rule I have always been curious, as it's so ingongruous to what I had understood as society's views of sex versus kissing. But I guess I was coming from a vanilla perspective. I do understand to a point, because since joining the swing scene, I find I kiss men I am fond of, or have strong sexual feelings for, considerably more than men with whom I'm enjoying sex as a more 'in the moment' and more anonymous experience. This made me realise that kissing does make a sexual experience more meaningful. However I have also found that if I do spend any time kissing a man with whom I have no feelings for, then the kiss in itself does not initiate those feelings. All that kiss does is enhance the mutual sexual experience. But if I kiss a man that I am fond of, the kiss will enhance the level of affection. That maybe it's that affection that some swingers find wrong, which I understand. In short I think most people only find a kiss intimate if shared with someone they have an intimate relationship with. Otherwise it's just a kiss, in the same way that sex is just sex. Fun but not intimate. But I guess for some people a kiss always makes the sexual experience more intimate even if there are no intimate feelings involved. Or maybe for others they simply don't enjoy kissing someone they don't have feelings for. Me personally, if I was having a sexual experience with someone who didn't want to kiss me because it was their rule, I think I would be so scared of putting my mouth on theirs without realising, and therefore causing trouble. It makes me wonder how to people control their natural urges when in this situation. Because when I have sex I just go with the flow and don't spend too much time thinking about it.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like many have said its about keeping some things between them as a couple....its personal prefrence i suppose there are many rules pepole put up but arent rules made to be broken

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do some people think is not right to kiss but will fuck others?"

Our bodies. Our lives. Our choice.

If you don't like it - it's your problem, not ours.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

Wow just read the full thread, some fascist kissers out their.

Some people need to learn that their life is just that and their values are not universal and that's OK.

Other views are valid and degradation and humiliation of other people’s values is a sad indictment on you not them.

If you like to kiss great, but I'd rather never kiss than swap a peck on the cheek with someone who feels the need to denigrate others to justify their personal choices.

Grow up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love kissing! If i could not do that there really is no point in my book.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

MrsJ couldn't get herself in the mood if she couldn't kiss. I could play with or without (prefer with), MrsJ needs and loves the kissing.

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over a year ago

"Wow just read the full thread, some fascist kissers out their.

Some people need to learn that their life is just that and their values are not universal and that's OK.

Other views are valid and degradation and humiliation of other people’s values is a sad indictment on you not them.

If you like to kiss great, but I'd rather never kiss than swap a peck on the cheek with someone who feels the need to denigrate others to justify their personal choices.

Grow up."

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over a year ago

I think I may be the only one here to offer the most obviously correct answer here...

Context is more important than the act when it comes to what is regarded as 'intimate'. A d*unken kiss is more intimate than a sober and passion filled sexual encounter? I do not think so and anyone suggesting something like that is very odd to me. But a passion filled kiss can be so much more than a quick fuck behind the bathroom stall of the local club.

Fact is, context is important and without that, you're all comparing apples to oranges. Most people here have not considered this when they answered.

We don't see any real difference in the physical act. We'll do it all.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Some people out there are just rubbish kissers.

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

"Wow just read the full thread, some fascist kissers out their.

Some people need to learn that their life is just that and their values are not universal and that's OK.

Other views are valid and degradation and humiliation of other people’s values is a sad indictment on you not them.

If you like to kiss great, but I'd rather never kiss than swap a peck on the cheek with someone who feels the need to denigrate others to justify their personal choices.

Grow up."

Love this

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I think I may be the only one here to offer the most obviously correct answer here...

Fact is, context is important and without that, you're all comparing apples to oranges. Most people here have not considered this when they answered.

We don't see any real difference in the physical act. We'll do it all."

What you and many people who have answered have assumed is that intimacy is the main issue here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't do no kissing then play wouldn't meet any one who preferred that kissing starts it off and makes it steamy.

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over a year ago

"I think I may be the only one here to offer the most obviously correct answer here...

Fact is, context is important and without that, you're all comparing apples to oranges. Most people here have not considered this when they answered.

We don't see any real difference in the physical act. We'll do it all.

What you and many people who have answered have assumed is that intimacy is the main issue here."

I have not assumed anything of the sort. I have made a post based on the amount suggesting that intimacy was the issue.

Personally I don't give a shit about boundaries. There simply are none with us within the life we lead sexually. We don't restrict each other when we have a girl join us. To each their own of course, but no, I made my statement based on the fact that many people seemed to think that was the issue. Interestingly though, you didnt add what the issue would be for you.

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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I think I may be the only one here to offer the most obviously correct answer here...

Fact is, context is important and without that, you're all comparing apples to oranges. Most people here have not considered this when they answered.

We don't see any real difference in the physical act. We'll do it all.

What you and many people who have answered have assumed is that intimacy is the main issue here.

I have not assumed anything of the sort. I have made a post based on the amount suggesting that intimacy was the issue.

Yes, having re-read your post I realise that you were commenting on what other people had said. Sorry.

I haven't added what our issue is because quite simply we don't have one. What we have is a simple preference.

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over a year ago

"I think I may be the only one here to offer the most obviously correct answer here...

Fact is, context is important and without that, you're all comparing apples to oranges. Most people here have not considered this when they answered.

We don't see any real difference in the physical act. We'll do it all.

What you and many people who have answered have assumed is that intimacy is the main issue here.

I have not assumed anything of the sort. I have made a post based on the amount suggesting that intimacy was the issue.

Yes, having re-read your post I realise that you were commenting on what other people had said. Sorry.

I haven't added what our issue is because quite simply we don't have one. What we have is a simple preference."

Fair enough :] And it's all good. We're all friends here x

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Yes, having re-read your post I realise that you were commenting on what other people had said. Sorry.

I haven't added what our issue is because quite simply we don't have one. What we have is a simple preference."

well done you. Ive not read the post and mistake, but great to see people able to re-check and do this.

If only more could take be like this.

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