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"Sorry to read that you've been let down. I'd support time-wasters being suspended if they do like you've suffered. There are genuine folk about and would like you be enjoying the excitement of the build up to a meet..and then turn up and make the fantasy real! " Yep this | |||
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"Markhon ??? never heard of you. Joker" Precicely. But would have still got you a ban if you had your way with the rules. | |||
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"Markhon ??? never heard of you. Joker" He's legend | |||
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"What do you look for when selecting someone" Likelihood of turning up... | |||
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"I've never had an issue with people cancelling at short notice or just not turning up but i am very selective about who i choose to meet. Maybe you could look at how you choose who you are going to meet if what you are doing now isn't working for you." Well put xx | |||
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"What do you look for when selecting someone" The first thing i do is have a very good look at their profile. Have they made a real effort and does it show a little bit of their personality. Do they have plenty of public pics and not just cock pics. I check their verifications - have they had meets before, do they normally meet people my body shape. I'm not interested in being the novelty bbw just to tick it off their bucket list when they normally meet slim ladies. Next i read their message. Have they made an effort to make it personal to me or is it a copy and paste job. Have they actually read my profile etc. Out of every 100 messages i get probably only one will actually get a reply from me. If they start asking for more pics or get graphic before we have met i stop chatting and usually block them. First meet is always a social in a public place, if they are genuine they will do this. I always trust my instincts too, even if someone seems to be ok after all of this. As a single lady my own personal safety is paramount and if i have even the slightest doubt i don't do it. | |||
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"First meet is always a social in a public place, if they are genuine they will do this." | |||
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"The problem with that, is it should be something you can prove, that someone didn't show up, otherwise people can take advantage of that, just to cause trouble. There are some vindictive people on fab, who love nothing more than causing drama and misery. Something like that, could have genuine people being falsely accused of time wasting. " Very very true some incredibly vindictive ones with personal vendettas A good idea but not practical unfortunately | |||
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"What can we do about time wasters. We spend hours setting up a meet, getting ready and excited.Then you get a text half hour before saying "soz can't make it" or worse nothing. Should Fab make a blacklist of repeat offenders. Fail to turn up 3 times then get put on the list. " It's a fucking joke twice I had on are way, they must of got lost in more of a interstellar interdimensional time warp then me! Need a fucking tardis to find them. ****'s I just don't get it do they feed of fucking other people around, | |||
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"Markhon ??? never heard of you. Joker" That was the point, it can get sticky and vindictive | |||
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"What do you look for when selecting someone" A fit arse | |||
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"I don't get excited or spend ages getting ready for a first meet. I only have a social firs time anyway. If I don't hear from them I don't set off to the rendezvous and my time is not wasted " This! And in seven years not had my time wasted for a second. | |||
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"I've never had an issue with people cancelling at short notice or just not turning up but i am very selective about who i choose to meet. Maybe you could look at how you choose who you are going to meet if what you are doing now isn't working for you." Exactly! Definition of madness, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. | |||
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"First meet is always a social in a public place, if they are genuine they will do this. " | |||
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"Markhon ??? never heard of you. Joker" I think that was his point....... Anyone could just send in a message to admin saying shit like that. The only way round it could be some kinda system where mutually between two profiles there was something like a "Meet agreed" button. No times, dates or locations need be given just that two profiles have agreed a meet. Then after the planned meet you have three options; 1 - Meet went ahead 2 - Mutually cancelled 3 - No show Cant really see that working to be honest but its an idea? | |||
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"What can we do about time wasters. We spend hours setting up a meet, getting ready and excited.Then you get a text half hour before saying "soz can't make it" or worse nothing. Should Fab make a blacklist of repeat offenders. Fail to turn up 3 times then get put on the list. " The problem is the people who have failed to show up could have done so for perfectly honest and legitimate reasons. Equally, they may not have! It then becomes subjective; you see it one way whereas their reasoning could differ. EG; I could claim you failed to meet up with me on a couple of occasions and report you as a timewaster!! It's so easy for it to get out of control. What has happened to you, just put it down to experience and move on. It happens, I'm afraid! | |||
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"Markhon ??? never heard of you. Joker He's legend" *doffs bowler... | |||
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"What can we do about time wasters. We spend hours setting up a meet, getting ready and excited.Then you get a text half hour before saying "soz can't make it" or worse nothing. Should Fab make a blacklist of repeat offenders. Fail to turn up 3 times then get put on the list. " op some have tried to say its your thought for not picking wisely that's bullshit that's basically victim blaming . after all your the victim in this you were willing to meet and you were not the one cancelling at the last minute . the only advice I can offer you is to not put to much stock into the prospects of meeting someone think yes if they turn up great if they don't oh well on to the next one. I personally have this rule if someone cancels on me last minute for a social I say ok but its now up to you to set up the next social by that I mean you must ask me because I will not ask you again . I don't hold grudges I just believe its up to the one cancelling to come up with a new date and time not me as I have already done that the first time and as I was the one being let down I think the person letting me down should arrange the next social not me . I take that line because if it was a genuine problem to why they cancelled they will gladly set up the next meet because they feel bad about cancelling like I would if they don't well you know there a genuine dreamer so you can move on knowing that fact . | |||
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"What do you look for when selecting someone The first thing i do is have a very good look at their profile. Have they made a real effort and does it show a little bit of their personality. Do they have plenty of public pics and not just cock pics. I check their verifications - have they had meets before, do they normally meet people my body shape. I'm not interested in being the novelty bbw just to tick it off their bucket list when they normally meet slim ladies. Next i read their message. Have they made an effort to make it personal to me or is it a copy and paste job. Have they actually read my profile etc. Out of every 100 messages i get probably only one will actually get a reply from me. If they start asking for more pics or get graphic before we have met i stop chatting and usually block them. First meet is always a social in a public place, if they are genuine they will do this. I always trust my instincts too, even if someone seems to be ok after all of this. As a single lady my own personal safety is paramount and if i have even the slightest doubt i don't do it." | |||
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"We had that with someone who let us down literally an hour before meeting..since then we are finding it hard to trust anyone..we have met some really nice people on here and we are convinced they won't bail but still..." An hour before meeting is not good Thats why i tend to meet people just in clubs as if they do bail and don't turnup at least I can have fun | |||
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"What can we do about time wasters. We spend hours setting up a meet, getting ready and excited.Then you get a text half hour before saying "soz can't make it" or worse nothing. Should Fab make a blacklist of repeat offenders. Fail to turn up 3 times then get put on the list. " I have come to accept that the majority on here (excepting single men category) are not here to meet. They are on either to use the forums, get their kicks out of chat and cams or are fake (an annoying significant minority). Genuine single female swingers (i.e. that don't charge fees for "organised gang bangs") are rare. That's just the way it is. You can spend many, many hours searching for a meet - only to be let down. The secret probably is - don't spend those hours - I have found that browsing the "meets section" yields the best results - but don't hold your breath for any females! Swinging is not actually as widespread and popular amongst the population as people would have you believe. Have you not noticed how this site is, essentially, a marketing place for so-called swingers clubs? This isn't a rant - I am v grateful for having met my husband via Fab a few years ago - it's just my observations on what has happened to the site - for whatever reason. | |||
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"What can we do about time wasters. We spend hours setting up a meet, getting ready and excited.Then you get a text half hour before saying "soz can't make it" or worse nothing. Should Fab make a blacklist of repeat offenders. Fail to turn up 3 times then get put on the list. " Why do women and couples always seem to choose to meet the wrong type of person on here, when there are real guys ready and waiting but don't get a look in?.. | |||
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"What do you expect from a site where the most people pay is £5 per month and worse its free? We consider it prospecting so far in 4 years we've found enough precious friends to make it worth the sifting. Someone once told me in life you'll always find shits the secert is to know when to pull the flush!! " Its the same on sites where you pay too. | |||
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"What do you expect from a site where the most people pay is £5 per month and worse its free? We consider it prospecting so far in 4 years we've found enough precious friends to make it worth the sifting. Someone once told me in life you'll always find shits the secert is to know when to pull the flush!! Its the same on sites where you pay too. " No doubt life is life where ever you live it, just a matter of odds and attitude but still form has an impact too dont you think? | |||
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"What can we do about time wasters. We spend hours setting up a meet, getting ready and excited.Then you get a text half hour before saying "soz can't make it" or worse nothing. Should Fab make a blacklist of repeat offenders. Fail to turn up 3 times then get put on the list. " Would be difficult to fairly police. Especially if sour grapes | |||
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" Why do women and couples always seem to choose to meet the wrong type of person on here, when there are real guys ready and waiting but don't get a look in?.. " This | |||
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" I personally have this rule if someone cancels on me last minute for a social I say ok but its now up to you to set up the next social by that I mean you must ask me because I will not ask you again . " Lol I hope you don't hold your breath waiting for women to message asking to meet, the amount of messages they can forget and move on very quickly | |||
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"What can we do about time wasters. We spend hours setting up a meet, getting ready and excited.Then you get a text half hour before saying "soz can't make it" or worse nothing. Should Fab make a blacklist of repeat offenders. Fail to turn up 3 times then get put on the list. " You can already go something about it; Report them to admin; there's a tick box for " did not turn up" Why not use the tools the site provides? | |||
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"I have to grin at claiming someone texting to cancel is a timewaster. For a start they did contact to say they couldn't make it which many don't. Maybe we should have a list for people to avoid as they shout and scream timewaster or worse if you don't do exactly what they want. " Agree. For me chatting, and it fizzles out: not a timewaster. Phone to cancel; not a timewaster. Turn up to meet and they don't turn up: timewaster...but that's just me! | |||
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"I have to grin at claiming someone texting to cancel is a timewaster. For a start they did contact to say they couldn't make it which many don't. Maybe we should have a list for people to avoid as they shout and scream timewaster or worse if you don't do exactly what they want. Agree. For me chatting, and it fizzles out: not a timewaster. Phone to cancel; not a timewaster. Turn up to meet and they don't turn up: timewaster...but that's just me!" It's not just you, we feel exactly the same. | |||
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"I think a meet arranged button on here would help. When a meeting is agreed, one party sets up the meet via the others profile, the other party then gets a notification of the meet and clicks agreement, the meet is registered with time, date, venue. Either party can then leave a verification based on that meeting, with venue left out for discretion and privacy. People could check on the reliability through those "meet arranged verifications" Also, if someone doesn't push the button on meet agreed within a specific time period, it self cancels and you can move on and arrange with someone else then? Just some out loud thinking, I'm sure there's plenty of flaws though " Very good idea, | |||
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"We arranged to meet a couple socially, and that after talking for a while on here, all seems ok, we exchange face pic and chose a venue and so far seem good also we said we will exchange fone number on the day of the meet just incase either of us running late, then on the day we tried to to contact them on here by mail and we were so shocked to find out they blocked us. Why why why Who knows And that what we call time wasters " I'm consistently amazed by the rudeness of some people, sorry you've had that experience. Guess you have to mark it up to experience and move on. BB x | |||
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"I think a meet arranged button on here would help. When a meeting is agreed, one party sets up the meet via the others profile, the other party then gets a notification of the meet and clicks agreement, the meet is registered with time, date, venue. Either party can then leave a verification based on that meeting, with venue left out for discretion and privacy. People could check on the reliability through those "meet arranged verifications" Also, if someone doesn't push the button on meet agreed within a specific time period, it self cancels and you can move on and arrange with someone else then? Just some out loud thinking, I'm sure there's plenty of flaws though " Yep main flaw is it's no different really to just making an arrangement in a normal fashion. Second flaw; who is going to manage this system? Third flaw; then people think it's some sort of contract Fourth flaw; if you are " setting up the meeting on the other persons profile; peopled will just be taking the piss by randomly bombarding all and sundry with these meet "!registrations." It will be fucking chaos. There is a simple answer; tune your fucking "common sense radar" better . | |||
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"I think a meet arranged button on here would help. When a meeting is agreed, one party sets up the meet via the others profile, the other party then gets a notification of the meet and clicks agreement, the meet is registered with time, date, venue. Either party can then leave a verification based on that meeting, with venue left out for discretion and privacy. People could check on the reliability through those "meet arranged verifications" Also, if someone doesn't push the button on meet agreed within a specific time period, it self cancels and you can move on and arrange with someone else then? Just some out loud thinking, I'm sure there's plenty of flaws though Yep main flaw is it's no different really to just making an arrangement in a normal fashion. Second flaw; who is going to manage this system? Third flaw; then people think it's some sort of contract Fourth flaw; if you are " setting up the meeting on the other persons profile; peopled will just be taking the piss by randomly bombarding all and sundry with these meet "!registrations." It will be fucking chaos. There is a simple answer; tune your fucking "common sense radar" better ." Chill the fuck out | |||
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"I think a meet arranged button on here would help. When a meeting is agreed, one party sets up the meet via the others profile, the other party then gets a notification of the meet and clicks agreement, the meet is registered with time, date, venue. Either party can then leave a verification based on that meeting, with venue left out for discretion and privacy. People could check on the reliability through those "meet arranged verifications" Also, if someone doesn't push the button on meet agreed within a specific time period, it self cancels and you can move on and arrange with someone else then? Just some out loud thinking, I'm sure there's plenty of flaws though Yep main flaw is it's no different really to just making an arrangement in a normal fashion. Second flaw; who is going to manage this system? Third flaw; then people think it's some sort of contract Fourth flaw; if you are " setting up the meeting on the other persons profile; peopled will just be taking the piss by randomly bombarding all and sundry with these meet "!registrations." It will be fucking chaos. There is a simple answer; tune your fucking "common sense radar" better ." Firstly it isn't the same because of the reason explained . Second , admin will mange it. Third, it hardly a legally binding contract but if both parties are genuine about meeting why wouldn't you accept it. Fourthly , it is a two way process , it only works if both parties agree. And lastly as stated above, chill out | |||
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"I think a meet arranged button on here would help. When a meeting is agreed, one party sets up the meet via the others profile, the other party then gets a notification of the meet and clicks agreement, the meet is registered with time, date, venue. Either party can then leave a verification based on that meeting, with venue left out for discretion and privacy. People could check on the reliability through those "meet arranged verifications" Also, if someone doesn't push the button on meet agreed within a specific time period, it self cancels and you can move on and arrange with someone else then? Just some out loud thinking, I'm sure there's plenty of flaws though Yep main flaw is it's no different really to just making an arrangement in a normal fashion. Second flaw; who is going to manage this system? Third flaw; then people think it's some sort of contract Fourth flaw; if you are " setting up the meeting on the other persons profile; peopled will just be taking the piss by randomly bombarding all and sundry with these meet "!registrations." It will be fucking chaos. There is a simple answer; tune your fucking "common sense radar" better . Firstly it isn't the same because of the reason explained . Second , admin will mange it. Third, it hardly a legally binding contract but if both parties are genuine about meeting why wouldn't you accept it. Fourthly , it is a two way process , it only works if both parties agree. And lastly as stated above, chill out " 1. It is the same. 2. What admin? You do know there's already not enough of them to go around and they're all unpaid volunteers, yes? 3. Some people WILL treat it as a binding contract. 4. Do you see the amount of complaints people make about the amount of unwanted messages they get? Imagine how that's going to multiply if people can randomly send meet invitations..... I still think the best tool anyone has to avoid timewasters is common sense and patience. OK, that's two..... Trouble is, people don't use them, then expect Fab to punish others for their own poor choices. Responsibility..... Personal responsibility. | |||
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"I think a meet arranged button on here would help. When a meeting is agreed, one party sets up the meet via the others profile, the other party then gets a notification of the meet and clicks agreement, the meet is registered with time, date, venue. Either party can then leave a verification based on that meeting, with venue left out for discretion and privacy. People could check on the reliability through those "meet arranged verifications" Also, if someone doesn't push the button on meet agreed within a specific time period, it self cancels and you can move on and arrange with someone else then? Just some out loud thinking, I'm sure there's plenty of flaws though Yep main flaw is it's no different really to just making an arrangement in a normal fashion. Second flaw; who is going to manage this system? Third flaw; then people think it's some sort of contract Fourth flaw; if you are " setting up the meeting on the other persons profile; peopled will just be taking the piss by randomly bombarding all and sundry with these meet "!registrations." It will be fucking chaos. There is a simple answer; tune your fucking "common sense radar" better . Firstly it isn't the same because of the reason explained . Second , admin will mange it. Third, it hardly a legally binding contract but if both parties are genuine about meeting why wouldn't you accept it. Fourthly , it is a two way process , it only works if both parties agree. And lastly as stated above, chill out 1. It is the same. 2. What admin? You do know there's already not enough of them to go around and they're all unpaid volunteers, yes? 3. Some people WILL treat it as a binding contract. 4. Do you see the amount of complaints people make about the amount of unwanted messages they get? Imagine how that's going to multiply if people can randomly send meet invitations..... I still think the best tool anyone has to avoid timewasters is common sense and patience. OK, that's two..... Trouble is, people don't use them, then expect Fab to punish others for their own poor choices. Responsibility..... Personal responsibility. " 1 it's not the same 2 how do you know!? 3 it's not a binding contract, how can it possible be one 4 this is a common sense solution to a common problem that the majority of people , no matter howcareful or vigilant, have experienced | |||
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"I think a meet arranged button on here would help. When a meeting is agreed, one party sets up the meet via the others profile, the other party then gets a notification of the meet and clicks agreement, the meet is registered with time, date, venue. Either party can then leave a verification based on that meeting, with venue left out for discretion and privacy. People could check on the reliability through those "meet arranged verifications" Also, if someone doesn't push the button on meet agreed within a specific time period, it self cancels and you can move on and arrange with someone else then? Just some out loud thinking, I'm sure there's plenty of flaws though Yep main flaw is it's no different really to just making an arrangement in a normal fashion. Second flaw; who is going to manage this system? Third flaw; then people think it's some sort of contract Fourth flaw; if you are " setting up the meeting on the other persons profile; peopled will just be taking the piss by randomly bombarding all and sundry with these meet "!registrations." It will be fucking chaos. There is a simple answer; tune your fucking "common sense radar" better . Firstly it isn't the same because of the reason explained . Second , admin will mange it. Third, it hardly a legally binding contract but if both parties are genuine about meeting why wouldn't you accept it. Fourthly , it is a two way process , it only works if both parties agree. And lastly as stated above, chill out 1. It is the same. 2. What admin? You do know there's already not enough of them to go around and they're all unpaid volunteers, yes? 3. Some people WILL treat it as a binding contract. 4. Do you see the amount of complaints people make about the amount of unwanted messages they get? Imagine how that's going to multiply if people can randomly send meet invitations..... I still think the best tool anyone has to avoid timewasters is common sense and patience. OK, that's two..... Trouble is, people don't use them, then expect Fab to punish others for their own poor choices. Responsibility..... Personal responsibility. 1 it's not the same 2 how do you know!? 3 it's not a binding contract, how can it possible be one 4 this is a common sense solution to a common problem that the majority of people , no matter howcareful or vigilant, have experienced " 1. It really is the same. Really. 2. Because I frequently see Fab asking for more moderators, more admin and I speak to several of the moderators. 3. I didn't say it was, I said "Some people WILL treat it as a binding contract". 4. The majority of people don't have experience of timewasters. | |||
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"Weeks of chat, check verifications, meet for a social, maybe a phone call or live cam....there's only a certain amount of checking you can do. " Exactly this! Unfortunately there are people out there who love the thrill of the chase and engage in all this but still don't show. | |||
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"Are people seriously saying you can't change your mind !" Apparently, yes. \__/ | |||
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"I think a meet arranged button on here would help. When a meeting is agreed, one party sets up the meet via the others profile, the other party then gets a notification of the meet and clicks agreement, the meet is registered with time, date, venue. Either party can then leave a verification based on that meeting, with venue left out for discretion and privacy. People could check on the reliability through those "meet arranged verifications" Also, if someone doesn't push the button on meet agreed within a specific time period, it self cancels and you can move on and arrange with someone else then? Just some out loud thinking, I'm sure there's plenty of flaws though Yep main flaw is it's no different really to just making an arrangement in a normal fashion. Second flaw; who is going to manage this system? Third flaw; then people think it's some sort of contract Fourth flaw; if you are " setting up the meeting on the other persons profile; peopled will just be taking the piss by randomly bombarding all and sundry with these meet "!registrations." It will be fucking chaos. There is a simple answer; tune your fucking "common sense radar" better ." You know it's not actually happening don't you? Like I said, it was just some out loud thinking.... However, in answer to your questions It's entirely different in that it would create a record of an agreed meet and work much in the way as the verification system. It doesn't need managing, it would be automated, much like every other algorithmic system on here, when you send a message, it doesn't go to admin who then forward it on you know? Third flaw, I agree with, some folks would see it as a contract, which it isn't, and of course people have the right to pul out at any time, but the record would show who pulled out, and when, it may encourage folks to at least be decent and give the other party decent notice that they have pulled out of the meet, rather than just not show up. I think it would also discourage people agreeing to a meet, when they actually have no intention of meeting up? Fourth flaw, it's the same as the message system is it not? You don't have to action it when recieving one, just ignore it, it would also work in the same way as filters, so if your not looking for a certain demographic, they wouldn't be able to set up a meet in the same way as they can't message you? Your last comment, there are lots of people with common sense who still get dicked about and messed around, I think anything that can reduce the chance of that is worthwhile, not everyone are experts you know , as clever as you make out you are at spotting fakes and time wasters, there are equally clever fakes and time wasters And again as I said this IS just out loud thinking, not even suggesting this should happen.... | |||
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"I think a meet arranged button on here would help. When a meeting is agreed, one party sets up the meet via the others profile, the other party then gets a notification of the meet and clicks agreement, the meet is registered with time, date, venue. Either party can then leave a verification based on that meeting, with venue left out for discretion and privacy. People could check on the reliability through those "meet arranged verifications" Also, if someone doesn't push the button on meet agreed within a specific time period, it self cancels and you can move on and arrange with someone else then? Just some out loud thinking, I'm sure there's plenty of flaws though Yep main flaw is it's no different really to just making an arrangement in a normal fashion. Second flaw; who is going to manage this system? Third flaw; then people think it's some sort of contract Fourth flaw; if you are " setting up the meeting on the other persons profile; peopled will just be taking the piss by randomly bombarding all and sundry with these meet "!registrations." It will be fucking chaos. There is a simple answer; tune your fucking "common sense radar" better . You know it's not actually happening don't you? Like I said, it was just some out loud thinking.... However, in answer to your questions It's entirely different in that it would create a record of an agreed meet and work much in the way as the verification system. It doesn't need managing, it would be automated, much like every other algorithmic system on here, when you send a message, it doesn't go to admin who then forward it on you know? Third flaw, I agree with, some folks would see it as a contract, which it isn't, and of course people have the right to pul out at any time, but the record would show who pulled out, and when, it may encourage folks to at least be decent and give the other party decent notice that they have pulled out of the meet, rather than just not show up. I think it would also discourage people agreeing to a meet, when they actually have no intention of meeting up? Fourth flaw, it's the same as the message system is it not? You don't have to action it when recieving one, just ignore it, it would also work in the same way as filters, so if your not looking for a certain demographic, they wouldn't be able to set up a meet in the same way as they can't message you? Your last comment, there are lots of people with common sense who still get dicked about and messed around, I think anything that can reduce the chance of that is worthwhile, not everyone are experts you know , as clever as you make out you are at spotting fakes and time wasters, there are equally clever fakes and time wasters And again as I said this IS just out loud thinking, not even suggesting this should happen.... " | |||
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"if you keep messages as evidence and send them to admin - if several people report them as wasting time they can remove them i think - not totally sure" Great idea. This is why many people dont want meeting with single man. Time wasters are the worst. I can understand that genuine people, only wants to meet at parties. If the timewaster dont go to the meeting, you have the possibility of meet another people. | |||
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