FabSwingers.com forum: The elusive single fem

By *ottscpl2014 OP Couple
over a year ago

nottingham/derby

I know they do exist but were just so untrusting of singles, we just can't understand why some of the gorgeous woman are on here.

A ffm is the only thing we havnt tried yet and we really want to but just can't seem to find the right woman. Beginning to wonder if an escort is the only way to go about our fantasy.

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By *aughty_amazonWoman
over a year ago

BRISTOL

I've tried it and it knocked me, the f got jealous and I ended up leaving, I'd made him too hard, don't kiss him, and don't touch her.

They were verified and she was supposedly bi.

Would never meet a couple alone again. I'd so ffm but all singles

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are trying to find a single woman for my first bi experience. Didn't realise it would be so difficult

Kinky

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've tried it and it knocked me, the f got jealous and I ended up leaving, I'd made him too hard, don't kiss him, and don't touch her.

They were verified and she was supposedly bi.

Would never meet a couple alone again. I'd so ffm but all singles "

This kind of thing is what put me off meeting couples. I wasn't looking for sex with only the woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had a few when I was single and I have to admit as a relatively straight girl sharing a guy didn't work as well as 2 guys sharing me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What about your pic dated May 2016?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why are single fems deemed to be elusive?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's a few of us knocking about here and there. Sometimes it's just that we don't appeal to the couple!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've tried it and it knocked me, the f got jealous and I ended up leaving, I'd made him too hard, don't kiss him, and don't touch her.

They were verified and she was supposedly bi.

Would never meet a couple alone again. I'd so ffm but all singles

This kind of thing is what put me off meeting couples. I wasn't looking for sex with only the woman. "

That's what I've said in the past, the woman will be going to get cock straight after as she wants both, but then I'm there, or I've gone and not had any. (Selfish I know).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What about your pic dated May 2016?"

Yup, that's a little confusing...

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By *XHNHWoman
over a year ago

Stokeish...

Like others I've had not so great experiences, generally if I play with a couple it's the female only and in a club if we hit it off, I don't meet couples alone at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've tried it and it knocked me, the f got jealous and I ended up leaving, I'd made him too hard, don't kiss him, and don't touch her.

They were verified and she was supposedly bi.

Would never meet a couple alone again. I'd so ffm but all singles

This kind of thing is what put me off meeting couples. I wasn't looking for sex with only the woman.

That's what I've said in the past, the woman will be going to get cock straight after as she wants both, but then I'm there, or I've gone and not had any. (Selfish I know). "

The single female? I'd want them both at the same time, not him after his wife/gf.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I had a few when I was single and I have to admit as a relatively straight girl sharing a guy didn't work as well as 2 guys sharing me. "

Gosh definately. Why share a man, when 2 men could be putting double attention on me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What about your pic dated May 2016?

Yup, that's a little confusing...

I didn't look any further until just now. December 2015 too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I had a few when I was single and I have to admit as a relatively straight girl sharing a guy didn't work as well as 2 guys sharing me.

Gosh definately. Why share a man, when 2 men could be putting double attention on me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've tried it and it knocked me, the f got jealous and I ended up leaving, I'd made him too hard, don't kiss him, and don't touch her.

They were verified and she was supposedly bi.

Would never meet a couple alone again. I'd so ffm but all singles

This kind of thing is what put me off meeting couples. I wasn't looking for sex with only the woman.

That's what I've said in the past, the woman will be going to get cock straight after as she wants both, but then I'm there, or I've gone and not had any. (Selfish I know).

The single female? I'd want them both at the same time, not him after his wife/gf."

Exactly and many couples do this, but I've been invited to couples and been told that I can play with her and he'll play but I can't fuck him... It's a no from me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I had a few when I was single and I have to admit as a relatively straight girl sharing a guy didn't work as well as 2 guys sharing me.

Gosh definately. Why share a man, when 2 men could be putting double attention on me

I prefer mmf myself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And guys thought they had a hard time finding single women......? Compared to some posts on here I've had an easy time......keep it coming all you single ladies....(and couples for mmf)

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By *ohnjones3210Man
over a year ago

Chester

There are a few single females here! But what's in it for them? Why would they want to? Most single females I know want single men. Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've tried it and it knocked me, the f got jealous and I ended up leaving, I'd made him too hard, don't kiss him, and don't touch her.

They were verified and she was supposedly bi.

Would never meet a couple alone again. I'd so ffm but all singles

This kind of thing is what put me off meeting couples. I wasn't looking for sex with only the woman.

That's what I've said in the past, the woman will be going to get cock straight after as she wants both, but then I'm there, or I've gone and not had any. (Selfish I know).

The single female? I'd want them both at the same time, not him after his wife/gf.

Exactly and many couples do this, but I've been invited to couples and been told that I can play with her and he'll play but I can't fuck him... It's a no from me. "

I was hearing mostly soft swing or the man doesn't join in, no kissing him but kissing her, no oral from him. It's too many nos for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They're certainly not elusive but we don't message them as we know they get 100's of messages each day!

We have had a few from the 'elusive' but upmto now always been too far away or just not to our liking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah we have been looking for a lady for my first bi experience but it's very difficult

Kinky

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes but why are they deemed elusive? Surely anyone looking for something specific will have to accept it won't happen easily? So what makes people view the single fem in such high esteem?

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

"Yes but why are they deemed elusive? Surely anyone looking for something specific will have to accept it won't happen easily? So what makes people view the single fem in such high esteem? "

Unavailability. Single men are used to having to work for meets, but *some* couples seem to have allowed couples play (and/or the easy access to single men) to skew their expectations, such that when they go looking for the single fem, they get a bit of a shock. They rationalise this as fems being hard to get as I couldn't possibly be their own fault.

Or it's a cheap cliché. Whichever suits...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They're not elusive. All we have done is FFM, and many many times. The difference is, we don't use Fab to find girls. We find them through friends of friends, Facebook, and other places. Never been a problem but while Fab does have some single women, there's many out there not in the scene who want to do it.

I can say for a fact that our life includes FFM and isn't just an odd one off thing.

It's always nice to add more to the little black book hence why we are here too. But we don't expect to find girls here as easily as in other places.

Not had an escort yet but just for the sake of saying we have done it we will probably do at some point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm here because I enjoy the banter in the forums, and I enjoy posting my selfies.. and if the chance to meet someone comes along then that's a nice bonus

I am bi but I'm not looking for couples, and nor am I looking for females from couples who post as 'single women'...

so for now I'm sticking with men..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have two very good, close friends I met on here.

Both are single, bi fems.....one no longer on the site because got pissed off with couples making daft demands. One still on the site.

Both were within walking distance of where I lived when I met them. They are now friends each other too!

Given that demographic...they can't be that scarce!

(I've met plenty others too).

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

Jeez, why so many rules on a swingers site, If you are in any way going to get jealous of anything you shouldn't be here end of..

WE want another female to join us, WE do not have boundaries & any the other party has will be respected. End of, no more, no less.

All this, no kissing, no fcking him, no scratching her left butt cheek if its a Tuesday in October...

Just get over here & fuck our brains out will you!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have two very good, close friends I met on here.

Both are single, bi fems.....one no longer on the site because got pissed off with couples making daft demands. One still on the site.

Both were within walking distance of where I lived when I met them. They are now friends each other too!

Given that demographic...they can't be that scarce!

(I've met plenty others too). "

They're not scarce. Beautiful young women looking for sex aren't very hard to find but if you only look in one place, you will spend a while looking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jeez, why so many rules on a swingers site, If you are in any way going to get jealous of anything you shouldn't be here end of..

WE want another female to join us, WE do not have boundaries & any the other party has will be respected. End of, no more, no less.

All this, no kissing, no fcking him, no scratching her left butt cheek if its a Tuesday in October...

Just get over here & fuck our brains out will you!!

Agreed. Rules like that are a hard indication of insecurity in the relationship somewhere. Fuck or not, don't play games in between because it's uncomfortable for everyone involved.

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By *inkySlinkyCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

"What about your pic dated May 2016?"

Also your pic Dec 2015

Sally

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By *workoutMan
over a year ago

Cradley Heath

Like a lot of guys I'd love to try ffm but as a single guy trying to make that happen it seems like the impossible dream

Finding a single fem is one thing finding an ff couple that are looking for single guys is impossible.

So finding two single women and then trying to arrange all three of us together seems like a monumental task.

Worth it if I can ever pull it off though I hope

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And guys thought they had a hard time finding single women......? Compared to some posts on here I've had an easy time......keep it coming all you single ladies....(and couples for mmf)"

Everyone seems to struggle differently, I've had no problems meeting single women at all but couples seem impossible. Any group scenarios seem beyond me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jeez, why so many rules on a swingers site, If you are in any way going to get jealous of anything you shouldn't be here end of..

WE want another female to join us, WE do not have boundaries & any the other party has will be respected. End of, no more, no less.

All this, no kissing, no fcking him, no scratching her left butt cheek if its a Tuesday in October...

Just get over here & fuck our brains out will you!!

but what if I don't fancy BOTH OF YOU?

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"Jeez, why so many rules on a swingers site, If you are in any way going to get jealous of anything you shouldn't be here end of..

WE want another female to join us, WE do not have boundaries & any the other party has will be respected. End of, no more, no less.

All this, no kissing, no fcking him, no scratching her left butt cheek if its a Tuesday in October...

Just get over here & fuck our brains out will you!!

but what if I don't fancy BOTH OF YOU?

Yeah we get that a lot tbh, but heh ho lifes a bitch, we'll wait till one comes along that does

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

"Like a lot of guys I'd love to try ffm but as a single guy trying to make that happen it seems like the impossible dream

Finding a single fem is one thing finding an ff couple that are looking for single guys is impossible.

So finding two single women and then trying to arrange all three of us together seems like a monumental task.

Worth it if I can ever pull it off though I hope

I disagree. I think it's easier because there's a more natural equality when you bring three singles together, avoiding the 2v1 dynamic.

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By *urvyKattWoman
over a year ago

Dumfriesshire

I do meet couples and I always, always chat a lot to the female of the couple first. If there is any hint of an issue then it's not happening.

A while back I spoke to the lady of the couple who had no idea what messages were being sent or what my profile or pics looked like but was willing to meet. I don't think so

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over a year ago

"I do meet couples and I always, always chat a lot to the female of the couple first. If there is any hint of an issue then it's not happening.

A while back I spoke to the lady of the couple who had no idea what messages were being sent or what my profile or pics looked like but was willing to meet. I don't think so

We insist 100% that we chat in three way group exclusively. No independent messaging for us. We would never chat individually because of the exact reason you have said. Everyone should be fully in the know about what is being said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jeez, why so many rules on a swingers site, If you are in any way going to get jealous of anything you shouldn't be here end of..

WE want another female to join us, WE do not have boundaries & any the other party has will be respected. End of, no more, no less.

All this, no kissing, no fcking him, no scratching her left butt cheek if its a Tuesday in October...

Just get over here & fuck our brains out will you!!

but what if I don't fancy BOTH OF YOU?

Yeah we get that a lot tbh, but heh ho lifes a bitch, we'll wait till one comes along that does

and that, and the fact that one or the other of the couple may not be into me is also a factor...

its not always as straightforward as most people make out

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By *workoutMan
over a year ago

Cradley Heath

"Like a lot of guys I'd love to try ffm but as a single guy trying to make that happen it seems like the impossible dream

Finding a single fem is one thing finding an ff couple that are looking for single guys is impossible.

So finding two single women and then trying to arrange all three of us together seems like a monumental task.

Worth it if I can ever pull it off though I hope

I disagree. I think it's easier because there's a more natural equality when you bring three singles together, avoiding the 2v1 dynamic."

Makes sense, so how the hell do I do it?

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By *wo4FemCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

We are also looking for female to join us. Sooner hopefully rather than later it will happen.

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

"I disagree. I think it's easier because there's a more natural equality when you bring three singles together, avoiding the 2v1 dynamic.

Makes sense, so how the hell do I do it?

Not telling

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are a F F M relationship and none of us met via FAB , it's just something we've used since we met.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"I do meet couples and I always, always chat a lot to the female of the couple first. If there is any hint of an issue then it's not happening.

A while back I spoke to the lady of the couple who had no idea what messages were being sent or what my profile or pics looked like but was willing to meet. I don't think so

That's the trouble with this site in general, The largely single guy population comes across as being 70% cave dwellers & unfortunately so do a lot of couples, run by the man for the man, you can see it in their messages, what times of day they are sent, the fact they send us messages in tge first place without reading our profile and in the profiles themselves of a lot of them..We don't message anyone unless we've agreed on it, I add to the hotlist, H will veto or OK, add some of her own & I do the same..

Seems a lot out there have had shit experiences, but may e you can't always blame the couple, sometimes you may have missed the signs??

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah we have been looking for a lady for my first bi experience but it's very difficult

Kinky

So far away mmmmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sometimes it's just too much drama meeting couples. Completely different dynamics to a one on one. And some of my past experiences with a couple have not been favourable.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"Jeez, why so many rules on a swingers site, If you are in any way going to get jealous of anything you shouldn't be here end of..

WE want another female to join us, WE do not have boundaries & any the other party has will be respected. End of, no more, no less.

All this, no kissing, no fcking him, no scratching her left butt cheek if its a Tuesday in October...

Just get over here & fuck our brains out will you!!

but what if I don't fancy BOTH OF YOU?

Yeah we get that a lot tbh, but heh ho lifes a bitch, we'll wait till one comes along that does

and that, and the fact that one or the other of the couple may not be into me is also a factor...

its not always as straightforward as most people make out

Agreed, but you don't find out if you don't interact. I used to drive for a living, I had a pretty bad accident, I still drive, if you want mff badly enough you try again after a bad experience, if it was just something to tick off your bucket list of life perhaps you won't I don't honestly see why its seen as any different to getting a shit shag off a singleton, it's crap but in all likelihood its not going to stop you meeting more is it?

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By *urvyKattWoman
over a year ago

Dumfriesshire

Don't get me wrong I've had some great meets with couples on here but when you get messages that come down to the fact they want someone to pop the ladies bi cherry and any woman will do then I leave the conversation

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"Don't get me wrong I've had some great meets with couples on here but when you get messages that come down to the fact they want someone to pop the ladies bi cherry and any woman will do then I leave the conversation

That bus has long left the station

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What about your pic dated May 2016?

Yup, that's a little confusing...

I didn't look any further until just now. December 2015 too."

Well someone was obviously taking the pic looks to me it was probably a couple who they met

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd only look to do an FFM with a guy I know & another single woman.

Wouldn't feel the dynamics would be right arranging a meet with an established couple, if it happened randomly in a club then that would be a different matter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never had the 2 v 1 dynamic, never had issues playing in a FFM meet, both one offs and with regulars, it's all about the dynamics, an equal 3 way play, never have we thought a single lady as a toy for us to use or something to fulfil a fantasy, just 3 people having fun, those ladies who now avoid couples we get it and understand if the other couples dynamics are skewed towards the male it's not going to work, on the other hand the odd bad meet you've had with a couple shouldn't put you off, the odd bad meet with a single guy wouldn't put you off, there are genuine couples out there that make good playmates it's just avoiding the not so good couples, our number 1 avoid if I played singly would be couples only looking for single ladies, always issues in those cases, of course couples will deny it but there is always something underlining why.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We love ffm I never get jealous at all. I love watching Mr making women squirt. X

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"Never had the 2 v 1 dynamic, never had issues playing in a FFM meet, both one offs and with regulars, it's all about the dynamics, an equal 3 way play, never have we thought a single lady as a toy for us to use or something to fulfil a fantasy, just 3 people having fun, those ladies who now avoid couples we get it and understand if the other couples dynamics are skewed towards the male it's not going to work, on the other hand the odd bad meet you've had with a couple shouldn't put you off, the odd bad meet with a single guy wouldn't put you off, there are genuine couples out there that make good playmates it's just avoiding the not so good couples, our number 1 avoid if I played singly would be couples only looking for single ladies, always issues in those cases, of course couples will deny it but there is always something underlining why....."

For us at least this is a simple one, Neither of us want to play alone, neither of us want another man involved. No dramas no fuss no underlying cause. We sat we talked, we decided, end of.. But then we are not swingers either..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jeez, why so many rules on a swingers site, If you are in any way going to get jealous of anything you shouldn't be here end of..

WE want another female to join us, WE do not have boundaries & any the other party has will be respected. End of, no more, no less.

All this, no kissing, no fcking him, no scratching her left butt cheek if its a Tuesday in October...

Just get over here & fuck our brains out will you!!

but what if I don't fancy BOTH OF YOU?

Yeah we get that a lot tbh, but heh ho lifes a bitch, we'll wait till one comes along that does

and that, and the fact that one or the other of the couple may not be into me is also a factor...

its not always as straightforward as most people make out

I guess I'm lucky then as I have ticked that off my bucket list, and with a lovely couple as well, who were both very mindful of my needs as well as theirs...

and that's why I'm no longer looking for couples as I don't think I will find anyone who was as considerate as they were...

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By *ymph84Woman
over a year ago

durham

I have been the elusive lady in a ffm and sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. My first ever meeting on fab was with a couple but I ended up just playing with the woman. I have since met 2 couples from fab where I have played with both male and female without any jealousy from female and I felt happy to be invited into their relationship.

I have since found I enjoy the female form more than the male (except my Dom) so I specify that I will meet couples but only on the proviso that I play with just the woman. It does work and I have met a couple of couples that are happy with this. I get what I want from it and they get what they want. One couple asked after first meet if I would fuck the male and I said no and they never asked again, yes I have met the couple again but he only plays with his gf.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"Jeez, why so many rules on a swingers site, If you are in any way going to get jealous of anything you shouldn't be here end of..

WE want another female to join us, WE do not have boundaries & any the other party has will be respected. End of, no more, no less.

All this, no kissing, no fcking him, no scratching her left butt cheek if its a Tuesday in October...

Just get over here & fuck our brains out will you!!

but what if I don't fancy BOTH OF YOU?

Yeah we get that a lot tbh, but heh ho lifes a bitch, we'll wait till one comes along that does

and that, and the fact that one or the other of the couple may not be into me is also a factor...

its not always as straightforward as most people make out

I guess I'm lucky then as I have ticked that off my bucket list, and with a lovely couple as well, who were both very mindful of my needs as well as theirs...

and that's why I'm no longer looking for couples as I don't think I will find anyone who was as considerate as they were..."

I am truely glad you had a good experience, but we don't have a bucket list, we want more than a tick, quite a few on here appear to just want that which is fine but not for us so we avoid them.

Consideration for a couple starts with discussing what each other want from it & what they can give to it & each other. You can't consider the other party until they make themselves known really.

First part of the process is asking what they want, we already know what we want..

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

"Sometimes it's just too much drama meeting couples. Completely different dynamics to a one on one. And some of my past experiences with a couple have not been favourable. "

Just talking to them can elicit it also. You're enjoying a conversation with one half and then the dynamic changes and the tone becomes far more aggressive and pushy. I've enjoyed quite a few FFM's but they have been in the 'real world' or at clubs. Single fems aren't that elusive but getting one that clicks with both parts of the couple can be quite hard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we know some amazing single fems who we have played with....with no hidden agenda ....or scheming going on tho cause us trouble or split us up...

We have had loads of ffm and think only one turned out to be after more than was on offer but that was years ago when we first got into the scene ...

So what i/we saw as genuine friendship was all a front for her to try n get si to meet her behind my back

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By *ottscpl2014 OP Couple
over a year ago

nottingham/derby

"What about your pic dated May 2016?"

That was part of a couples meet we had where her fella took the pic. Yes it was just me and them but not all the way through.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I know they do exist but were just so untrusting of singles, we just can't understand why some of the gorgeous woman are on here.

A ffm is the only thing we havnt tried yet and we really want to but just can't seem to find the right woman. Beginning to wonder if an escort is the only way to go about our fantasy. "

Why can't you under stand why some of the gorgeous women are on here?

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By *ottscpl2014 OP Couple
over a year ago

nottingham/derby

"What about your pic dated May 2016?

Yup, that's a little confusing...

I didn't look any further until just now. December 2015 too."

That ones not me. I took the pic of Bec with the other couple. Yes we've had points in meets where the attentions only been on one guy but never had a meet with just a woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are a few single females here! But what's in it for them? Why would they want to? Most single females I know want single men. Xx"

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By *ottscpl2014 OP Couple
over a year ago

nottingham/derby

"Jeez, why so many rules on a swingers site, If you are in any way going to get jealous of anything you shouldn't be here end of..

WE want another female to join us, WE do not have boundaries & any the other party has will be respected. End of, no more, no less.

All this, no kissing, no fcking him, no scratching her left butt cheek if its a Tuesday in October...

Just get over here & fuck our brains out will you!!

this

We want this meet so we can both play with the fem not so I can sit and watch.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I know they do exist but were just so untrusting of singles, we just can't understand why some of the gorgeous woman are on here.

A ffm is the only thing we havnt tried yet and we really want to but just can't seem to find the right woman. Beginning to wonder if an escort is the only way to go about our fantasy. "

I think your thread comment says it all to be honest OP. You don't know why single females are on here??? I am on here to have fun not be a free sex toy for a couple. Presumably you expect them to be available to you and they are not, it could be your attitude. X

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over a year ago

"Jeez, why so many rules on a swingers site, If you are in any way going to get jealous of anything you shouldn't be here end of..

WE want another female to join us, WE do not have boundaries & any the other party has will be respected. End of, no more, no less.

All this, no kissing, no fcking him, no scratching her left butt cheek if its a Tuesday in October...

Just get over here & fuck our brains out will you!!

this

We want this meet so we can both play with the fem not so I can sit and watch. "

You want a sex toy. I get ya!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We've had mmf, ffm, mfmf. We've come to the conclusion with single women that it's best to play it cool and wait until they contact us, rather than going 'on the hunt' lol

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over a year ago

"Like a lot of guys I'd love to try ffm but as a single guy trying to make that happen it seems like the impossible dream

Finding a single fem is one thing finding an ff couple that are looking for single guys is impossible.

So finding two single women and then trying to arrange all three of us together seems like a monumental task.

Worth it if I can ever pull it off though I hope

ah the elusive ffm,i have come to the conclusion it would be easier winning the lottery??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sending x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sending x"

Shit! Wrong thread. My bad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sending x"

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"Jeez, why so many rules on a swingers site, If you are in any way going to get jealous of anything you shouldn't be here end of..

WE want another female to join us, WE do not have boundaries & any the other party has will be respected. End of, no more, no less.

All this, no kissing, no fcking him, no scratching her left butt cheek if its a Tuesday in October...

Just get over here & fuck our brains out will you!!

this

We want this meet so we can both play with the fem not so I can sit and watch. "

Although we want the same thing we appear to want it for vastly different reasons. Your comment "Only thing we haven't tried" smacks of them being a plaything a tick in the box as I eluded to elsewhere.

For us the single fem is not the "last thing on our list", its the "only" thing on our list & maybe that's the issue. It could be a lot of things, me posting here may very well have put some off? But the tone is just drawn from the frustrations of the search, fakes, attention seekers, gone cold conversations, get me down sometimes and it comes out in my tone..

I think a lot of our issue is maybe our profile smacks too much of "We want a relationship" and tbh we do, but not the exclusive kind, we want to find someone with the knowledge that they too know what they want and if that includes having a regular couple amongst their regular singles then perfect. We are not dumb enough to think the first person we sleep with will be the one, an fwb grows is nurtured, its not something you pull off a shelf..

Good luck on your search OP

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over a year ago

Although I'm personally not looking for couples to play with, I do have several close friends who I play with regularly.

What many couples may not understand is that where the couple only have to be attracted to the single female, the single female has to be attracted to both. As a single female I do struggle with this but I also struggled with this when I was part of a couple, which also made playing difficult, yet we had more FFMs than FMFM. Yes I am very fussy but aren't many of us.

There are plenty of single female out there, maybe you're just looking in the wrong places?! I do find clubbing a perfect place to find single females who are more willing to play as it's a safer environment for them.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"Although I'm personally not looking for couples to play with, I do have several close friends who I play with regularly.

Once we do the Manchester social we will probably visit the VA on one of their couples/single fem nights.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

VA is an awesome club & yes the couples/single fem nights are the best hunting grounds

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over a year ago

Us single Femakes do exist. I've payed with a few couples and had great fun. However I wouldn't play if I was told no kissing him, no penatrative sex etc as I'm on here for great sex for myself too, not just here to be a play toy for others.

If everyone in the MFF is allowed full kissing, full sex, on a level playing field so to speak, then the experience is fantastic. I have to know that there are no insecurities or jealousy issues with any couples I meet, or that just wouldn't work.

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over a year ago

"Us single Femakes do exist. I've payed with a few couples and had great fun. However I wouldn't play if I was told no kissing him, no penatrative sex etc as I'm on here for great sex for myself too, not just here to be a play toy for others.

This basically sums it all up for me, and I think alot of the single fems on here. When couple understand this the rest is easy.

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over a year ago

"VA is an awesome club & yes the couples/single fem nights are the best hunting grounds

As a single fem, personally I wouldn't feel attracted to someone who came "hunting" for me. But maybe that thought would turn someone else on. Who knows.

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over a year ago

For me the mmf always works much better. I have more.control and can say what suits me and what doesn't. I am reluctant to meet couples on my own as there has been issues in the past with the female dictating the rules and ones where lady gets tearful as she thinks we were too intimate so therefore despite many requests from couples I will only meet couples with my male fb on fab as a foursome

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over a year ago

"For me the mmf always works much better. I have more.control and can say what suits me and what doesn't. I am reluctant to meet couples on my own as there has been issues in the past with the female dictating the rules and ones where lady gets tearful as she thinks we were too intimate so therefore despite many requests from couples I will only meet couples with my male fb on fab as a foursome"

A lady was tearful, oh dear, that's really not good. That would be an horrendous situation for you. I don't think she should be on this swinging site at that. It's meant to make you smile, not cry.

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over a year ago

A lady was tearful, oh dear, that's really not good. That would be an horrendous situation for you. I don't think she should be on this swinging site at that. It's meant to make you smile, not cry. "

Happens too often, but you learn quickly to spot the signs. My problems usually stem from the male getting jealous, and that can be either during play, afterwards or if a relationship develops. Thing is some people don't think things thro and talk about it. The fantasy is sometimes way hotter than the reality, that your woman may prefer women to men.

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over a year ago

"VA is an awesome club & yes the couples/single fem nights are the best hunting grounds

As a single fem, personally I wouldn't feel attracted to someone who came "hunting" for me. But maybe that thought would turn someone else on. Who knows.

Tongue & cheek Hun!!

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"VA is an awesome club & yes the couples/single fem nights are the best hunting grounds

As a single fem, personally I wouldn't feel attracted to someone who came "hunting" for me. But maybe that thought would turn someone else on. Who knows.

We prefer Fab socials tbh & have had our best conversations with single fems at them. If I'm honest though & please don't take this the wrong way, we feel sometimes as though WE are the tick to be made in the box, but at the same time it's a low priority for them due to all the available hot single males on here..

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By *aughty_amazonWoman
over a year ago

BRISTOL

I hate the whole "I wanna put on a show for my fella" thing, makes you feel like a toy like others have said, I'd much rather hunt down a single man with a fab female friend and approach them for fun.

My profile says I don't want couples yet I must get 5 or 6 messages a day and end up having to write war and peace as to why I don't wanna meet couples

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over a year ago

"I hate the whole "I wanna put on a show for my fella" thing, makes you feel like a toy like others have said, I'd much rather hunt down a single man with a fab female friend and approach them for fun.

My profile says I don't want couples yet I must get 5 or 6 messages a day and end up having to write war and peace as to why I don't wanna meet couples

I HATE the whole "putting on a show" so to speak - never done it & wont do it ...I'm in it to get my kicks not to tick off one of their fantasies gggrrrrrr

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By *aughty_amazonWoman
over a year ago

BRISTOL

My profile says I don't want couples yet I must get 5 or 6 messages a day and end up having to write war and peace as to why I don't wanna meet couples

I HATE the whole "putting on a show" so to speak - never done it & wont do it ...I'm in it to get my kicks not to tick off one of their fantasies gggrrrrrr"

Haha that's pretty much what my profile says

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By *ecretlyASoftieWoman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly

Single bi fems are abundant, I'm overrun with the sexy things

Maybe it's the offer that makes them scarce

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By *XHNHWoman
over a year ago

Stokeish...

"Single bi fems are abundant, I'm overrun with the sexy things

Maybe it's the offer that makes them scarce

Lol yes I have a few I'm close to too, funny that we flock together while others claim we're rare

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over a year ago

My profile says I don't want couples yet I must get 5 or 6 messages a day and end up having to write war and peace as to why I don't wanna meet couples

I HATE the whole "putting on a show" so to speak - never done it & wont do it ...I'm in it to get my kicks not to tick off one of their fantasies gggrrrrrr

Haha that's pretty much what my profile says "

Too right girls !

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By *XHNHWoman
over a year ago

Stokeish...

Oh and all my best FFM's have been between 3 "single" people/ playmates etc where there is none of that couples dynamic, I've had a lot over the years with friends that have been brilliant

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over a year ago

"VA is an awesome club & yes the couples/single fem nights are the best hunting grounds

As a single fem, personally I wouldn't feel attracted to someone who came "hunting" for me. But maybe that thought would turn someone else on. Who knows.

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over a year ago

I think many single females play with the couples that they have built a friendship with first, at least that way they know what to expect. Rather than meeting socially one or two times then going for the ffm and finding things to be completely different to what they expected.

There needs to be an understanding and trust between both sides, where they are both in it for the same reasons, not a one sided affair.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

My profile says I don't want couples yet I must get 5 or 6 messages a day and end up having to write war and peace as to why I don't wanna meet couples

We read profiles, hard to believe I know

Quite simple, we dont fit, we dont contact, not hard is it? Our profile I think pretty much sums up what we want and although it is a long long way from "putting on a show" maybe its too far the other way?

We discussed coming on here, scenarios, the what do we do if this happens? Etc. For over a month before biting the bullet & making our profile public.

Jealousy is not something that enters our heads. Strawberry intimated about what if the fem for want of a better word "Falls for her"..We because of H's past have already discussed this but love comes in many shapes & forms "I love it when we are together" is not the same as "I'd love to live with you" after all.

We do get a lot of mixed signals regarding profiles from those that contact us, I'd say 30% of the time we look at their profiles and we don't "fit" in their list of wants and think. ?

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over a year ago

"I've tried it and it knocked me, the f got jealous and I ended up leaving, I'd made him too hard, don't kiss him, and don't touch her.

They were verified and she was supposedly bi.

Would never meet a couple alone again. I'd so ffm but all singles "

This...and once the wife has had enough then that usually puts an end to it all and I am rarely done yet n leave frustrated as ultimately I want cock... plus it is rare I actually fancy both the guy and the gal

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By *ecretlyASoftieWoman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly

"I've tried it and it knocked me, the f got jealous and I ended up leaving, I'd made him too hard, don't kiss him, and don't touch her.

They were verified and she was supposedly bi.

Would never meet a couple alone again. I'd so ffm but all singles

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By *ecretlyASoftieWoman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly

My profile says I don't want couples yet I must get 5 or 6 messages a day and end up having to write war and peace as to why I don't wanna meet couples

We read profiles, hard to believe I know

We discussed coming on here, scenarios, the what do we do if this happens? Etc. For over a month before biting the bullet & making our profile public.

We do get a lot of mixed signals regarding profiles from those that contact us, I'd say 30% of the time we look at their profiles and we don't "fit" in their list of wants and think. ?

Your profile resonates with me and I'd be open to similar if the other party was closer. To be honest though you could read my profile and not get that so you might be missing out on some potential matches

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is why I don't meet couples, I was brought up to share so if we can't share and share alike then I'll just not play with them. Had mff as the lady in the couple and I loved it but then I'm not the jealous sort - love watching the ladies play with my man :D and there's nothing hotter than everyone getting involved!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

maybe mmf situations work better? I have done more threesomes with two guys and one girl and the jealousy factor dosn't seem to come into it

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"maybe mmf situations work better? I have done more threesomes with two guys and one girl and the jealousy factor dosn't seem to come into it"

They probably work better because there is only the one female, men are far more simple "If I'm getting some, I don't mind him getting some" for want of a better term.. Some women from other threads I have followed count how many orgasms the other party has & gets the hump (or doesn't

) of its more than them..

another where the fem wanted play to stop while she left the room!! Its these idiots that make it harder than it needs to be by putting off quite a few ladies that may otherwise be playing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You may have a point there. I do think that The jealousy factor may be higher for women. But happy to be proved wrong

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over a year ago

Reading through the many posts on here I feel quite lucky that my partner has no jealousy issues at all and we have had many ffm or fffm scenarios. She is fully bi sexual so she gets fully involved and in all of our meets inside or outside of club there has never been an issue with jealousy and we make sure that all are equally enjoying the experience and our only boundary apart the 3p's is no anal. However when we speak to other cples or single fems they all comment on the fact our relationship is different and is solid compared to others they have spoke to where one half of the couple is only going along with it to please the other

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By *hamCouple30Couple
over a year ago

Birmingham

Helen and I have had FFM a number of times and love it. We have no restrictions between us.

Helen loves ladies and I love to watch them. Helen loves to also watch me pleasuring the other lady and fuck her hard while they kiss.

I think the less rules the better.

We are always on the lookout for a wonderful sexy lady to join us.

We're friendly and love to tease and please x

Please feel free to contact us x

Helen and Leo x

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By *hamCouple30Couple
over a year ago

Birmingham

"I think many single females play with the couples that they have built a friendship with first, at least that way they know what to expect. Rather than meeting socially one or two times then going for the ffm and finding things to be completely different to what they expected.

There needs to be an understanding and trust between both sides, where they are both in it for the same reasons, not a one sided affair."

We'd love to join you and share all our skills x

No restrictions

Helen and Leo x

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over a year ago

There needs to be an understanding and trust between both sides, where they are both in it for the same reasons, not a one sided affair."

Well said.

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