FabSwingers.com forum: Swinging encourages cheating.

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

In the other thread about a man in a couple was meeting without the wife, few did agree that it did encourage it abit, what is your view on it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No way , we have been doing this for five and a half years and neither of us have had any desire to cheat .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dunno chap; I just bang people... try not to get wrapped up in the "why they want banging" shodizzle

This has been an ironic post courtesy of Pauly90; please feel free to send me abusive mail; I drink salty tears

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No way , we have been doing this for five and a half years and neither of us have had any desire to cheat ."

Share your thoughts entirely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No way , we have been doing this for five and a half years and neither of us have had any desire to cheat ."

I'm sure the wife of the last guy who mailed me to meet him alone says that too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the other thread about a man in a couple was meeting without the wife, few did agree that it did encourage it abit, what is your view on it?"

No it doesn't.

But there are plenty of unintelligent people on here who think cheating and swinging are the same thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

Personally in terms of our own relationship, I can only speak of it. There is no need for us to 'cheat' but I think we are far from the stereotypical swingers as we are both bi and we met on here so our motivation to swing came as singles and we are doing it much less now we are together, My personal opinion is that swinging is cheating in the true sense of the word, just endorsed by your partner. For many couples it is clear that one or the others isn't as keen, so the one who wants to and wanted to cheat for whatever reason (eg to spice up their sex life or whatever) pushes the other into it. If you can read body language you can see this at any club or party .... I think a lot of the times it encourages cheating, and this includes when boundaries are crossed.

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
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over a year ago

My Own Little World

A cheater is gonna cheat.

Whether they are in a seemingly monogamous relationship or a swinger.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"In the other thread about a man in a couple was meeting without the wife, few did agree that it did encourage it abit, what is your view on it?

No it doesn't.

But there are plenty of unintelligent people on here who think cheating and swinging are the same thing."

Personally I dont think its unintelligent, I think people who think cheating and swinging are not the same are deluded and not living in the real world. One is just giving their partner the mandate to cheat .... who cares if you are okay with it, why the big fuss? Because many swingers like to justify their behaviour by a moral code and like to feel superior to others

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No way , we have been doing this for five and a half years and neither of us have had any desire to cheat .

Share your thoughts entirely "

Agreed we get exactly what we want from this site together absolute no desire to go elsewhere separately,but I guess that's down to trust between us and being on here for both of us as opposed to one or the other

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dunno chap; I just bang people... try not to get wrapped up in the "why they want banging" shodizzle

This has been an ironic post courtesy of Pauly90; please feel free to send me abusive mail; I drink salty tears"

Legend.

If someone is lucky enough to have found a relationship with someone who they can be totally open with and play with others outside of said relationship with, then feel the need to lie and cheat on said partner then in my opinion they are complete and utter shit of a human being who don't deserve a relationship of any kind. That's just my opinion though.

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By *itzhallMan
over a year ago

birchington

A cheat will always look for an opportunity to cheat... whether it's a neighbour, work colleague or internet sites of which this is one of many..... the swinging sites will appeal to these people because of the 'everybody is upfor it ' pperception

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the other thread about a man in a couple was meeting without the wife, few did agree that it did encourage it abit, what is your view on it?"

Only in those who wanted to cheat anyway. It just adds another avenue for adulterers to attempt to cheat. In a loving, trusting relationship, it would have no impact on them, I believe.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life "

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personally in terms of our own relationship, I can only speak of it. There is no need for us to 'cheat' but I think we are far from the stereotypical swingers as we are both bi and we met on here so our motivation to swing came as singles and we are doing it much less now we are together, My personal opinion is that swinging is cheating in the true sense of the word, just endorsed by your partner. For many couples it is clear that one or the others isn't as keen, so the one who wants to and wanted to cheat for whatever reason (eg to spice up their sex life or whatever) pushes the other into it. If you can read body language you can see this at any club or party .... I think a lot of the times it encourages cheating, and this includes when boundaries are crossed."

If it's endorsed by your partner , then how is it cheating ?

While there may be some who push their partner unwillingly , from our experience they are few and far between .

From your post which starts with you can only speak from you're personal stance , you make some very broad assumptions on everyone else !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the other thread about a man in a couple was meeting without the wife, few did agree that it did encourage it abit, what is your view on it?"

I am sure it happens but who ever finds out?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?"

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?"

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?"

So why can't a couple want more?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"In the other thread about a man in a couple was meeting without the wife, few did agree that it did encourage it abit, what is your view on it?

I am sure it happens but who ever finds out? "
That is right, they just have to be more discreet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've seen the messages single females I've met from the male half of the faithful couples when Mrs is out

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

i think people who dont swing probably cheat more,why would you want to cheat if your partner is in full agreement about meeting others.In my opion swingers i have met seem to have a much more stable relationship than so called normal couples.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a bit of both we think . But we strongly believe in our case it doesn't encourage cheating as a lot of people do this as they have a high sex drive and maybe we are wrong a lot of people cheat as they need more sex due to lack of it or it going stale. Swinging can deter cheating in some kind of way as you can have more sex and with a variety of people. We have a very good sex life and spice it up even more with fab

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

If it's endorsed by your partner , then how is it cheating ?

While there may be some who push their partner unwillingly , from our experience they are few and far between .

From your post which starts with you can only speak from you're personal stance , you make some very broad assumptions on everyone else ! "

I speak about our relationship first. then I speak about what I see and my experience with others from six years on the scene at parties, clubs etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

they all say we both want dirty play and both want to be fucking somone ells but we both happy balacks if you both ok with each other then y let a stranger fuck your part ner

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

We always seem to get this response from you. We aren't typical swingers so you dont think we have a right to be on here? How judgmental is that ... sorry I don't agree with what you are doing, but I don't imply you don't belong here. Get over yourselves

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

Gosh another couple who doesn't think we should be here. No need to think about what you are doing or why then, is there? I dont ever say someone should or shouldn't be here or even suggest it .... how rude.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

excuse me; hey (wavy hands); why aren't you typical swingers (genuine question); you are a couple that swing (I read your profile) and you also swing separately; did I miss something (you are both bi; like playing with tvs, quite like black guys); I can't see what isn't typical.... maybe I am being daft (not a unique event!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

So are you saying a couple who have a great sex life shouldn't swing together? Therefore we are guessing you are saying you should only swing as a couple be the sex life is shit or one of you wants to fuck someone else so you swing together so you don't cheat on each other?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We can only speak for ourselves, but we first got into swinging 12 years ago. We've been sporadic and had significant breaks from it, and expiremented with an open relationship. Maybe we're not what some would call traditional swingers, but we've never cheated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do not believe this lifestyle encourages cheating.. but obviously attracts those that do..

Im in my first and only relationship where we play as a couple and its the only relationship ive ever not cheated in... says a lot to me..

However like in life.. there are all sorts of people on here...

But no.. I dont think just being in this lifestyle encourages it. And i do not think sharing your partner equals cheating.. cheating is behind your partners back and can include many other things.. not just sex.

Id be just as upset to find sexual texts between my partner and other women as I would be to find he had sex with them if it was behind my back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've met a man from a faithful couple who said they had the perfect swinging lifestyle and total trust between each other. The wife is obviously deluding herself. Totally laughable.

So maybe the couples on here who are judgemental of us "cheaters" need to take of their rose tinted glasses and look closer to home at what really goes on in the world of swinging.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?"

See, everything is great for Marc and me. But it is simply more fun to have threesomes and group sex. I guess it's a difference in kind rather than quality. If that makes sense?

I don't see a value in the act of monogamy alone. I mean, I see a social value, but not a value to me personally. So, without that value, I ask myself whether I'd like to have more fun by adding threesomes and group sex to our lives, and I think "yes."

Apologies to anyone who has gotten a message from Marc asking for sex without my knowledge, though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've met a man from a faithful couple who said they had the perfect swinging lifestyle and total trust between each other. The wife is obviously deluding herself. Totally laughable.

So maybe the couples on here who are judgemental of us "cheaters" need to take of their rose tinted glasses and look closer to home at what really goes on in the world of swinging. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've met a man from a faithful couple who said they had the perfect swinging lifestyle and total trust between each other. The wife is obviously deluding herself. Totally laughable.

So maybe the couples on here who are judgemental of us "cheaters" need to take of their rose tinted glasses and look closer to home at what really goes on in the world of swinging. "

Haven't seen any judgemental couples at all on here at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've met a man from a faithful couple who said they had the perfect swinging lifestyle and total trust between each other. The wife is obviously deluding herself. Totally laughable.

So maybe the couples on here who are judgemental of us "cheaters" need to take of their rose tinted glasses and look closer to home at what really goes on in the world of swinging. "
maybe if people didnt fuck those they knew were cheating it would be less of it going on.

I have no rose tints on.. quite aware of what a bitchy and dog eat dog world this can be and that others do and will meet behind their partners back. But these people would do whatever lifestyle they were in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

I didn't say you shouldn't be here , I said what has it come to when a comment is made by swingers such as the one you made .

The very essence of swinging is to enjoy sexual fun with others with your husband or wife . What on earth makes you think that there is anything missing in the marriage , or that it's not enough to be monogamous ?

It's a truly nonsensical comment to make .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've met a man from a faithful couple who said they had the perfect swinging lifestyle and total trust between each other. The wife is obviously deluding herself. Totally laughable.

So maybe the couples on here who are judgemental of us "cheaters" need to take of their rose tinted glasses and look closer to home at what really goes on in the world of swinging. maybe if people didnt fuck those they knew were cheating it would be less of it going on.

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman
over a year ago

Lyndhurst

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?"

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

I am trying to make sense of the sentence. Sorry. I got this far .... if the sex life is so great, why swing? Why not admit you, or one of you, needs something else? Or there is an element missing. It seems swingers cannot admit or parent admit they don't have enough together. What would be the harm in that unless it destroyed the illusion that swingers have the perfect relationship. We are both bi, so our bi needs sore met by other people. They cent be met between us. I dont think something has to be either perfection or shit ....

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

See, everything is great for Marc and me. But it is simply more fun to have threesomes and group sex. I guess it's a difference in kind rather than quality. If that makes sense?

Apologies to anyone who has gotten a message from Marc asking for sex without my knowledge, though.

Of course it would be you Courtney who can add to the discussion without feeling threatened .... you dont have to justify yourself. I understand completely where you say you guys are coming from.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?"

Surely as you both meet other people you should be able to answer this yourself?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?"

For us, what we have together is enough but this is a lifestyle choice, something we do together... we ensure we get to socialise from it too and it works...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

We are both bi but still manage to enjoy swinging together as we can both get what we want together,so why is it so hard for you to understand some couples have a great sex life together can have fun together on fab without there being so hidden agenda

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman
over a year ago

Lyndhurst

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've met a man from a faithful couple who said they had the perfect swinging lifestyle and total trust between each other. The wife is obviously deluding herself. Totally laughable.

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

Lol..you are confusing. It's like you don't understand swinging, cheating and are confused with semantics..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A cheater is gonna cheat.

Whether they are in a seemingly monogamous relationship or a swinger."

this.

if someone gets off on being a snidey, cheating, liar, then being trusted enables them to do that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

For us, what we have together is enough but this is a lifestyle choice, something we do together... we ensure we get to socialise from it too and it works... "

Spot on

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Surely as you both meet other people you should be able to answer this yourself?"

Well, we are realistic about our relationship. We don't say people in a monogamous relationship have it bad and we have it great. We are both bi and meet people of the same sex .... so I think it is slightly different. I don't want to meet any other man, even with my partner, at the moment anyway. If either of us did, I wouldn't have to justify it by saying our relationship is perfect and dissing others to the extent that some do here. why bang on and on about it being perfect. why is it important to have to justify it all the time, just be ton with it. Our relationship is what it is because of our relationship, which swinging has less and less to do with. Its a miniscule part of what we have .... but maybe that is why we are different from other couples. My OH plays alone with TVs TS and men .... I have no issue with that ....in fact I like the fact that he can be himself without any pressure from a partner or any fear.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Surely as you both meet other people you should be able to answer this yourself?"

You would think so wouldn't you ?

The very suggestion that married couples who swing are missing something in their own relationship would be understandable from someone who didn't get the lifestyle .

To come from someone with six years experience is staggering .

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

Lol..you are confusing. It's like you don't understand swinging, cheating and are confused with semantics..

No, its not me who is confusing it. Many people are so hung up on not being called cheats ... why? I am sure pretty soon we'll get a gaggle of people along who say they changed their marriage vows all those years ago and omitted 'forsake all others' .... what I am saying is just be honest, you don't have to justify it to anyone here, so why bother.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?"

Some just don't get it. It has nothing to do with it isn't enough. It's all to do with having that little bit more just because you can. Why shouldn't a couple with a satisfying sex life want to experiment? And if that involves others so what? Why should they just stay static? I can't give my husband a cock. That doesn't mean we aren't entirely happy with just the 2 of us. ...it means "great. ...let's see what else we can do"

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Surely as you both meet other people you should be able to answer this yourself?

It isn't

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Surely as you both meet other people you should be able to answer this yourself?

You would think so wouldn't you ?

The very suggestion that married couples who swing are missing something in their own relationship would be understandable from someone who didn't get the lifestyle .

To come from someone with six years experience is staggering ."

I have been on the scene six years and my partner over twenty, closer to thirty. Its because of my observations I say this ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the other thread about a man in a couple was meeting without the wife, few did agree that it did encourage it abit, what is your view on it?"

I don't think it encourages it so much in that I'd guess it's more the case that *some* people who would like to cheat may attempt to legitimise doing so by suggesting swinging.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A cheater is gonna cheat.

Whether they are in a seemingly monogamous relationship or a swinger.

this.

if someone gets off on being a snidey, cheating, liar, then being trusted enables them to do that."

I totally agree with this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Spot on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Great sense spoken

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Surely as you both meet other people you should be able to answer this yourself?

It isn't"

Unless I have grown a penis or he has a pusssy I can lick, it is .... we aren't bi curious. Like I said, I haven't met another man who even remotely interests me sexually since we have been together. That is about me, not him, but even if he did or I did, I don't have to justify it by saying because e our relationship is perfect, we swing .... why couldn't you admit something was missing? I am missing a cock, so he meets men. I have no problem saying that.

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman
over a year ago

Lyndhurst

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Surely as you both meet other people you should be able to answer this yourself?

You would think so wouldn't you ?

The very suggestion that married couples who swing are missing something in their own relationship would be understandable from someone who didn't get the lifestyle .

To come from someone with six years experience is staggering .

I have been on the scene six years and my partner over twenty, closer to thirty. Its because of my observations I say this ...."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"they all say we both want dirty play and both want to be fucking somone ells but we both happy balacks if you both ok with each other then y let a stranger fuck your part ner "

i quite like spaghetti.

i don't want to eat it every day.

simply...variety.

my mrs is out tonight with a chap she sees sometimes. why? because sex with me isn't enough?

no...because sometimes it's nice to have a change and she can so why not?

i do the same sometimes. sometimes we meet together too and within that we meet different people, single guys, single women, couples... and all because we like the change and variety and it's there for us to have.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A cheater is gonna cheat.

Whether they are in a seemingly monogamous relationship or a swinger.

this.

if someone gets off on being a snidey, cheating, liar, then being trusted enables them to do that.

I totally agree with this "

I agree that a cheat will always be a cheat, or at least a high percentage will be. But it's not illegal and it's fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?"

So you're swinging to compensate for a shit sex life?

I see it more that I drink black coffee every day and enjoy it a great deal. From time to time I like a mocha, not because it's better, I just like something different sometimes (and I can choose to do so).

Twirl drinks tea in more varieties than I can keep track of...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure I agree with this "swinging is cheating" argument.

As a couple we met other couples and attended parties and quite often one of us wasn't "feeling it" and quite happily sat and watched the other play without thinking either of us would cheat with people we met and played with.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Surely as you both meet other people you should be able to answer this yourself?

It isn't

I didn't answer your statement of "why isn't it enough" I also didn't justify to you or anyone what we do. I merely pointed out as you both meet other people for sex that you should be able to answer the question yourself.

It doesn't matter what sex the person is, you are meeting someone else for sex. You are doing the same as the people who you think are missing something.

What are you missing in your relationship if you are going off for sex with a female?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Good point!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Surely as you both meet other people you should be able to answer this yourself?

It isn't

It doesn't matter what sex the person is, you are meeting someone else for sex. You are doing the same as the people who you think are missing something.

What are you missing in your relationship if you are going off for sex with a female?"

Well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't understand this thread

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

Wow, the knives go at another couple who are saying why swing don't they. Lol, okay .... I can take it. My point, again, is, why go on and on and on about it being perfect .... why not say it is lacking something? I think its because swingers have to justify they have a great relationship so swing ... why wont anyone admit they needed more?

Being bi, we can't give each other what we need all the time. That doesn't mean our sex life or our relationship is shut. Why is everything black or white for the people here? I just don't get it? There are a hell of a lot of people that cannot admit that swinging makes their relationship better, if this is the case, then it wasn't perfect in the first place. I am not talking about my relationship here, I am asking those who say they have perfection, do they?

What I say about my relationship isn't the issue here.

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

There are quite a few couples profiles on these very forums where they publicly exclaim how loyal they are to each other yet. I've had messages from the male half from his secret single male profile. Obviously won't name and shame but it happens a lot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the bottom line is i don't consider my gf to be cheating when she meets...she doesn't consider me to be when i do so therefore it isn't and i couldn't give two shits what some stranger want's to label it. that's their issue and not mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A cheater is gonna cheat.

Whether they are in a seemingly monogamous relationship or a swinger.

this.

if someone gets off on being a snidey, cheating, liar, then being trusted enables them to do that.

I totally agree with this

I agree that a cheat will always be a cheat, or at least a high percentage will be. But it's not illegal and it's fun

it's illegal in other countries. here it's just grounds for divorce, which is kind of a legal thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Surely as you both meet other people you should be able to answer this yourself?

It isn't

I have no problem saying our relationship is that great , so great that we both enjoy fun with others which makes it even greater that it could be without this freedom .

There is nothing missing here , we enjoy it equally , and there has never been an ounce of pushing either one of us into anything .

It's a shame that your experience in the swinging scene has left you with such an opinion of those couples who swing .

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over a year ago

"I've met a man from a faithful couple who said they had the perfect swinging lifestyle and total trust between each other. The wife is obviously deluding herself. Totally laughable.

Why not have sex with those who are cheating though ? It's 2 consenting adults, having fun. And I'm no bitch, I'm an intelligent woman whose needs aren't being met so taking steps to find it. I shouldn't have to go through life feeling unsatisfied."
because im not a bitch who wants to cause another woman pain.. and you could get what you needed without cheating.. you're forgetting ive been the woman that thought what the hell.. its not my problem... it took being cheated on to make me realise what a bitchy and nasty atttitude that was... and Im truly ashamed of my orignal attitude.. it was selfish and very nasty or me.

But that wasnt the question and as a long time swinger... and an ex relate worker I do not think that swinging encourages

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Surely as you both meet other people you should be able to answer this yourself?

It isn't

It doesn't matter what sex the person is, you are meeting someone else for sex. You are doing the same as the people who you think are missing something.

What are you missing in your relationship if you are going off for sex with a female?

Well said

Apparently nothing because in order to swing, you must have a perfect relationship. Follow your own logic here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wow, the knives go at another couple who are saying why swing don't they. Lol, okay .... I can take it. My point, again, is, why go on and on and on about it being perfect .... why not say it is lacking something? I think its because swingers have to justify they have a great relationship so swing ... why wont anyone admit they needed more?

What I say about my relationship isn't the issue here."

Seriously. Nobody has perfection. No one claims to have perfection. But to assume that those that swing do so because something is missing is putting your own reasons on to everyone else.

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?"

Our sex life on our own is good, most of time the 2 of us is more than enough. There are some things that we just can't do on our own, such as group sex, girl/girl etc.

It's fun to add it into the mix on occasion.

Saying that, the urge to include others is getting less and less. Simply because so many people (mostly singles) fail to understand it.

I can only talk for myself, but I've never had the urge to cheat on Mr B, either on here or elsewhere.

As far as I'm aware Mr B hasn't been messaging others behind my back. *Shrugs* Apparently it common on here, so who knows.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Surely as you both meet other people you should be able to answer this yourself?

It isn't

It doesn't matter what sex the person is, you are meeting someone else for sex. You are doing the same as the people who you think are missing something.

What are you missing in your relationship if you are going off for sex with a female?

Well said

Apparently nothing because in order to swing, you must have a perfect relationship. Follow your own logic here. "

You keep saying I have said things on this thread when I havn't. I am assuming it is a mistake on your part rather than you making things up.

It is a shame that you can't actually answer the question though rather than be sarcastic. Is that because I have pointed out your double standards?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can well imagine it does, just the same as some couples saying they don't bareback or that the male half is 110% straight.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

Not typical because we are social swingers now, not typical because we met on here, not typical because we only meet the same sex, neither plays with opposite sex .... is that enough?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You may not need a "perfect" relationship to fuck other people but it's utterly stupid to do it if you're relationship is shit... or if your sex life is shit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I say about my relationship isn't the issue here."

I think your comment is very arrogant towards couples of which there are plenty on here who say nothing is lacking in there relationship at all but because they are solid together they want to experiment in something else together,you explain how that is that so difficult for you to understand? Or is it difficult for you to understand because your relationship isn't solid hence why you are on here?

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

I can well imagine it does, just the same as some couples saying they don't bareback or that the male half is 110% straight. "

I don't doubt they happen either. What people say and what people do are often two very different things

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

Really can't speak for other people and their reasons for swinging.

We swing because we want to and talk to each other and trust each other. Neither of us has ever thought about cheating either before or since we started in this lifestyle

Every couple and person has their own reasons for being on here and we are sure that their needs and desires may change overtime.

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman
over a year ago

Lyndhurst

What I say about my relationship isn't the issue here."

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

What I say about my relationship isn't the issue here.

This seems to have become a vendetta against me, obviously I have violated some fab code. Our relationship is solid thanks for your concern. Are you implying its because we are here it isn't? We met here and pretty much the couple profile grew out of our single ones. Anyone who knows us knows our relationship is solid ... but it's easy to deflect onto the other ... victimisation I think it's called.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are there 4categories of participants on this site?

Couples who seek couples typically they have pampas grass in the front garden and tend to put car keys in a fruit bowl.

Couples who seek men in the singular or in a group situation with maybe a cuckold theme in the genre.

Singles who are either just that as in single no significant other in their lives. These folks are seeking friends with benefits.

Then there are folks who are in a relationship and use the site for recreational sex as they are not wanting to change their situation at home.

Anymore?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I say about my relationship isn't the issue here.

Have you only got

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are there 4categories of participants on this site?

Couples who seek couples typically they have pampas grass in the front garden and tend to put car keys in a fruit bowl.

Couples who seek men in the singular or in a group situation with maybe a cuckold theme in the genre.

Singles who are either just that as in single no significant other in their lives. These folks are seeking friends with benefits.

Then there are folks who are in a relationship and use the site for recreational sex as they are not wanting to change their situation at home.

Anymore?"

hundreds

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Really can't speak for other people and their reasons for swinging.

We swing because we want to and talk to each other and trust each other. Neither of us has ever thought about cheating either before or since we started in this lifestyle

Every couple and person has their own reasons for being on here and we are sure that their needs and desires may change overtime."

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over a year ago

"There are quite a few couples profiles on these very forums where they publicly exclaim how loyal they are to each other yet. I've had messages from the male half from his secret single male profile. Obviously won't name and shame but it happens a lot "
it does happen but personally wont entertain it and would hope people would have the decency to just block..

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

"Are there 4categories of participants on this site?

Couples who seek couples typically they have pampas grass in the front garden and tend to put car keys in a fruit bowl.

Couples who seek men in the singular or in a group situation with maybe a cuckold theme in the genre.

Singles who are either just that as in single no significant other in their lives. These folks are seeking friends with benefits.

Then there are folks who are in a relationship and use the site for recreational sex as they are not wanting to change their situation at home.

Anymore?"

Loads you forgot the one of the obvious ones the "unicorn hunters"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I say about my relationship isn't the issue here.

No just being opinionated towards other's relationships seems to be the issue.

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

"There are quite a few couples profiles on these very forums where they publicly exclaim how loyal they are to each other yet. I've had messages from the male half from his secret single male profile. Obviously won't name and shame but it happens a lot it does happen but personally wont entertain it and would hope people would have the decency to just block.. "

I've never entertained it either and just blocked. I might get labelled as many things by many people but I don't want to have "home wrecker" as one of them if I can help it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't understand this thread "

I think I understand that the OP of this thread has started it as some sort of troll tactic and is probably having a good laugh at the arguing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I say about my relationship isn't the issue here.

Sort yourself out,you made the comment that you didn't understand couples who state there sex life is great but swinging is just an extension,what can't you understand about that,what is so difficult for you to understand....victimisation

poor me poor me

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Surely as you both meet other people you should be able to answer this yourself?

It isn't

It doesn't matter what sex the person is, you are meeting someone else for sex. You are doing the same as the people who you think are missing something.

What are you missing in your relationship if you are going off for sex with a female?

Well said

Apparently nothing because in order to swing, you must have a perfect relationship. Follow your own logic here.

You keep saying I have said things on this thread when I havn't. I am assuming it is a mistake on your part rather than you making things up.

It is a shame that you can't actually answer the question though rather than be sarcastic. Is that because I have pointed out your double standards?

Its been answered above. My 'you' in my posts are not specific ''. They are the general 'vous' . I think its becoming very personal, yourself and two other posters asking me personally .... let me make this clear .... I am not talking about anyone here specifically and their relationship, why has mine become the focus? Because it's too hot in the kitchen? My relationship isn't the focus here .... some people get so tetchy when someone posts a different perspective, and personal

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over a year ago

What I say about my relationship isn't the issue here.

It was you who suggested that swingers couldn't have such a great relationship if they felt the need to swing !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

Not typical because we are social swingers now, not typical because we met on here, not typical because we only meet the same sex, neither plays with opposite sex .... is that enough? "

I don't know what a "social swinger" is; I am not sure why that would make you untypical...

You only meet the same sex; I see a hundred profiles like that every day... typical.. some couples swap, some couples go bi-bi... not untypical, some couples don't kiss opposite sex; some couples don't fuck opposite sex; in 6 or so years, nothing jumps out from your profile to say untypical, partly because there is no such thing as typical....

You met on here?

welcome to half the swinging couples in the South West... not untypical

You are a little aggressive in your tone, but thats not untypical either.... in fact I would say you are just run of the mill lifestyle peeps; you have a kink, we all have a kink.. meh...

I think that whatever gets people off, gets them off; if a guy wants to watch another guy fuck his wife; and thats what "enhances" their play, sobeit; maybe when the strange guy fucks off they have the best sex, because they can re-bond; maybe; they have a bit of a role play afterwards; don't know, normally driving home...

Anyway, happy swinging.. be happy all that jazz stuff

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over a year ago

I would imagine it depends on the relationships.

I can't cheat on my partners. I don't have to tell them if I'm sleeping with someone else - although we do tend to let people know.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

What I say about my relationship isn't the issue here.

poor me poor me "

I made the comment but then suddenly it gets to be about my relationship. I am not talking about anyone specifically on here, just general. Then people get personal and rude. Don't take it personally '... you have a choice but I dont. Keyboard warriors are out in force tonight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't understand this thread

I think I understand that the OP of this thread has started it as some sort of troll tactic and is probably having a good laugh at the arguing. "

I like Mrs R's bum, can I post that here?

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman
over a year ago

Lyndhurst

What I say about my relationship isn't the issue here.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?"

Because some people are just wired to have sex with multiple people.

Some people aren't - and that's ok too. I don't think you're weird if you only want to have sex with one person.

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

"I don't understand this thread "

I'd say, this thread has succeeded in what it was started for. To cause a row.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

Not typical because we are social swingers now, not typical because we met on here, not typical because we only meet the same sex, neither plays with opposite sex .... is that enough?

I don't know what a "social swinger" is; I am not sure why that would make you untypical...

You met on here?

welcome to half the swinging couples in the South West... not untypical

You are a little aggressive in your tone, but thats not untypical either.... in fact I would say you are just run of the mill lifestyle peeps; you have a kink, we all have a kink.. meh...

Anyway, happy swinging.. be happy all that jazz stuff"

Thanks for your analysis. I will file it in the circular filing cabinet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I say about my relationship isn't the issue here.

poor me poor me

Nobody has been rude but you made a comment but then couldn't clarify your comment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Precisely. Some of these couples who try to belittle us "cheaters" should think long and hard about this. It happens often,and not just the men, women too. Maybe their swinging lifestyle isn't as perfect as they think."
no one is trying to belittle you.. they have their opinion and you have yours.. id like to think that neither of us would cheat on the other. but big if we did it wouldnt be because we were swinging but because we chose to cheat.

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By *epper123Woman
over a year ago

London

What I say about my relationship isn't the issue here.

poor me poor me

Nobody has been rude but you made a comment but then couldn't clarify your comment "

Its all getting very personal

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I don't understand this thread

I'd say, this thread has succeeded in what it was started for. To cause a row."
No it wasnt, it is interesting to know everyone view point.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

Not being personal huh ?

You don't agree with what we are doing you say ?

........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cheating involves deceptive behaviour from one person or the other.. swinging is something entirely different that people do for all sorts of reasons.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't understand this thread

I'd say, this thread has succeeded in what it was started for. To cause a row."

I just wanted to know what a typical swinging couple was... I'm out.. you all behave now xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for your analysis. I will file it in the circular filing cabinet. "

The rolodex?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

Not being personal huh ?

You don't agree with what we are doing you say ?

........

Selective memory we think

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over a year ago

"There are quite a few couples profiles on these very forums where they publicly exclaim how loyal they are to each other yet. I've had messages from the male half from his secret single male profile. Obviously won't name and shame but it happens a lot it does happen but personally wont entertain it and would hope people would have the decency to just block..

I've never entertained it either and just blocked. I might get labelled as many things by many people but I don't want to have "home wrecker" as one of them if I can help it "

You wouldn't be the " home wrecker ". Surely the marriage/relationship problems would be caused by the one who is cheating (if they got caught), not you. You would simply be the third party.

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By *epper123Woman
over a year ago

London

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

Not being personal huh ?

You don't agree with what we are doing you say ?

........

I dont agree with what you are saying or doing, victimising and making it personal .... is it okay not to agree with what is happening on this thread?

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

Most aren't taking the general comments about all swingers missing something in their less than perfect relationships personally. I can see someone who did make it personal by bringing their own circumstances into the discussion and then whinging that it's personal though.

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over a year ago

"I don't understand this thread

I'd say, this thread has succeeded in what it was started for. To cause a row.No it wasnt, it is interesting to know everyone view point. "

It's the minority that are turning it into a row. Your lost to me OP was just simply looking for people opinions. Chill out those of you who are arguing. This site is meant to be about fun after all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't understand this thread

I think I understand that the OP of this thread has started it as some sort of troll tactic and is probably having a good laugh at the arguing.

I like Mrs R's bum, can I post that here?"

Feel free, we don't mind

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By *epper123Woman
over a year ago

London

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

Not being personal huh ?

You don't agree with what we are doing you say ?

........

Selective memory we think

Doing as in making it personal? Not doing in the sense of swinging, I have no idea what you do ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I say about my relationship isn't the issue here."

My relationship with the person I live with is pretty perfect.

My relationship with the man I've been seeing for twice as long as the person I live with is also pretty perfect.

My relationship with my girlfriend is pretty perfect.

As well as those three pretty perfect relationships I also enjoy both casual sex and BDSM with other people who I'm not in a committed relationship with.

Nothing is "missing" from any of those relationships. I just enjoy variety in my sex life. It's my preference. My sex life with those three people is *great*, but it's great because I have freedom and flexibility. If I didn't have freedom and flexibility then it would be rubbish.

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman
over a year ago

Lyndhurst

Good point.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

Not being personal huh ?

You don't agree with what we are doing you say ?

........

I dont agree with what you are saying or doing, victimising and making it personal .... is it okay not to agree with what is happening on this thread?"

The above quote was what you said on your couple profile to us . It had no relation to what's happened on the thread and your suggestion of victimising .

You have made comments which suggest couples who swing don't have such a great sex life together , or they wouldn't swing .

That's what has caused the comments made .

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By *epper123Woman
over a year ago

London

"I don't understand this thread

I'd say, this thread has succeeded in what it was started for. To cause a row.No it wasnt, it is interesting to know everyone view point.

It's the minority that are turning it into a row. Your lost to me OP was just simply looking for people opinions. Chill out those of you who are arguing. This site is meant to be about fun after all

This is what happens. People get annoyed when they are told that swinging is cheating ..... then it gets sidetracked into what wonderful relationships swingers have. Then we never get out of that cult de sac. I think once a cheater, always a cheater ....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I don't understand this thread

I'd say, this thread has succeeded in what it was started for. To cause a row.No it wasnt, it is interesting to know everyone view point.

It's the minority that are turning it into a row. Your lost to me OP was just simply looking for people opinions. Chill out those of you who are arguing. This site is meant to be about fun after all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I say about my relationship isn't the issue here.

My relationship with the person I live with is pretty perfect.

My relationship with the man I've been seeing for twice as long as the person I live with is also pretty perfect.

My relationship with my girlfriend is pretty perfect.

As well as those three pretty perfect relationships I also enjoy both casual sex and BDSM with other people who I'm not in a committed relationship with.

Although, and I don't wish to make this personal; but you might wanna, you know; leave some peeps for poor old Pauly to play with... see thats why I am single (linked to there thread)... all the greedy peeps have lots of peeps; and Pauly gets no peeps...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think once a cheater, always a cheater .... "

Actually, I'm proof that isn't the case.

I was a serial cheater. Since I was... about 15... I never had a relationship where I didn't cheat on the person. I just cheated because I got bored and wanted to have sex with other people.

Then I discovered that you didn't have to be monogamous... and I stopped cheating. Because I discovered that I just wasn't a monogamous person. I wasn't a serial cheat - I just wasn't into being forced to have sex with only one person ever again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's kind of the point of non-monogamy - it's not monogamy! You could have sex with my three partners if they wanted to have sex with you.

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By *epper123Woman
over a year ago

London

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

Not being personal huh ?

You don't agree with what we are doing you say ?

........

I dont agree with what you are saying or doing, victimising and making it personal .... is it okay not to agree with what is happening on this thread?

The above quote was what you said on your couple profile to us . It had no relation to what's happened on the thread and your suggestion of victimising .

You have made comments which suggest couples who swing don't have such a great sex life together , or they wouldn't swing .

That's what has caused the comments made ."

Are you telling me you know what I mean when I write it. I dont agree that whenever I post something, I get it in the neck from you guys and this time you have made it into my relationship and all about that. What you are doing anywhere is your business. If you knew me as a person you would know I don't judge other people, but its interesting to see how riled and personal some people can get, and defensive .... my comments were made about couples who go on and on and on about what a great relationship they have .... and then swing. They are questions because I can't get my head around why they feel they have to go on and on about their great relationship. Any other meaning was taken on by those who wrote it. I am very careful with my words like that, because some people jump to their own conclusions and that shows their line of thinking.

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman
over a year ago

Lyndhurst

"I don't understand this thread

I'd say, this thread has succeeded in what it was started for. To cause a row.No it wasnt, it is interesting to know everyone view point. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think once a cheater, always a cheater ....

Actually, I'm proof that isn't the case.

I was a serial cheater. Since I was... about 15... I never had a relationship where I didn't cheat on the person. I just cheated because I got bored and wanted to have sex with other people.

Maybe if I was fortunate enough to have that relationship then I wouldn't cheat either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if you are inclined to cheat, and you think you can get away with it, then you will cheat..

I also think that if you are in a relationship and you are have cheated in the past, then getting into swinging is your 'get out of jail free card' to say its ok to cheat but lets call it swinging

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't understand this thread

I'd say, this thread has succeeded in what it was started for. To cause a row.No it wasnt, it is interesting to know everyone view point.

It's the minority that are turning it into a row. Your lost to me OP was just simply looking for people opinions. Chill out those of you who are arguing. This site is meant to be about fun after all

Probably because most swingers don't view swinging as cheating. Just a thought.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think once a cheater, always a cheater ....

Actually, I'm proof that isn't the case.

I was a serial cheater. Since I was... about 15... I never had a relationship where I didn't cheat on the person. I just cheated because I got bored and wanted to have sex with other people.

Maybe if I was fortunate enough to have that relationship then I wouldn't cheat either

Well, when I realised it was available I suggested it to my partner and offered him non-monogamy. He wanted to be monogamous, so we split up.

You *could* have a relationship like mine - but you'd have to want it enough to actually do something about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's kind of the point of non-monogamy - it's not monogamy! You could have sex with my three partners if they wanted to have sex with you."

I sometimes think it is the role of the young to confuse the old...."say what"...

I'm just pulling your tail; we should all live the lives we want; regardless of the judgement or opinions of others; if it makes us open to judgement, so be that; let our skins be as thick as our black books xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think swinging encourages cheating, why do we need to when we can enjoy various experiences with the consent (and normally involvement) of our other half?

I think that joining the scene has made us more open about our desires and far less likely to feel the need to hide things or look elsewhere. It's almost anti-cheating.

From our perspective it allows us experiences we couldn't have with just the two of us and a bit of variety that keeps things exciting. It has opened our eyes to lots of fun things and we love the social side too. I immensely dislike the idea that we are doing this because there was something lacking in our relationship, it has added something to an already strong marriage (she says hoping to heck G isn't one of those guys messaging without his OHs knowledge!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are there 4categories of participants on this site?

Couples who seek couples typically they have pampas grass in the front garden and tend to put car keys in a fruit bowl.

Couples who seek men in the singular or in a group situation with maybe a cuckold theme in the genre.

Singles who are either just that as in single no significant other in their lives. These folks are seeking friends with benefits.

Then there are folks who are in a relationship and use the site for recreational sex as they are not wanting to change their situation at home.

Anymore?

hundreds"

Hundreds?

Could you elaborate?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

Not being personal huh ?

You don't agree with what we are doing you say ?

........

I dont agree with what you are saying or doing, victimising and making it personal .... is it okay not to agree with what is happening on this thread?

The above quote was what you said on your couple profile to us . It had no relation to what's happened on the thread and your suggestion of victimising .

You have made comments which suggest couples who swing don't have such a great sex life together , or they wouldn't swing .

That's what has caused the comments made ."

Probably best leave it,to us and you guys it was clearly a response to the " don't get why"a couple who are happy in there relationship need to go elsewhere for sex without any valid is classed as being personal and vindictive

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By *epper123Woman
over a year ago

London

"I don't understand this thread

I'd say, this thread has succeeded in what it was started for. To cause a row.No it wasnt, it is interesting to know everyone view point.

It's the minority that are turning it into a row. Your lost to me OP was just simply looking for people opinions. Chill out those of you who are arguing. This site is meant to be about fun after all

Probably because most swingers don't view swinging as cheating. Just a thought. "

Even the couples or singles who meet people on here as single, knowing they re attached but not asking the question? One may not be cheating, but the person they are meeting may well be '... so isn't that encouraging and condoning cheating? I don't have am opinion here, just asking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"One may not be cheating, but the person they are meeting may well be '... so isn't that encouraging and condoning cheating? I don't have am opinion here, just asking"

That's why some of us go as far as we reasonably can to make sure that the person we're meeting isn't cheating.

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By *epper123Woman
over a year ago

London

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

Not being personal huh ?

You don't agree with what we are doing you say ?

........

I dont agree with what you are saying or doing, victimising and making it personal .... is it okay not to agree with what is happening on this thread?

The above quote was what you said on your couple profile to us . It had no relation to what's happened on the thread and your suggestion of victimising .

You have made comments which suggest couples who swing don't have such a great sex life together , or they wouldn't swing .

That's what has caused the comments made .

It wasn't personal or vindictive, it was am "I dont get it" .... then it turned personal towards me. I have swapped to my single profile because I think some couples were even more mortified it came from another couple. Just trying to understand then nor blown away by how personal and nasty it got.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think once a cheater, always a cheater ....

Actually, I'm proof that isn't the case.

I was a serial cheater. Since I was... about 15... I never had a relationship where I didn't cheat on the person. I just cheated because I got bored and wanted to have sex with other people.

Maybe if I was fortunate enough to have that relationship then I wouldn't cheat either

Well, when I realised it was available I suggested it to my partner and offered him non-monogamy. He wanted to be monogamous, so we split up.

You *could* have a relationship like mine - but you'd have to want it enough to actually do something about it."

I wouldn't walk out on a happy marriage over one solitary issue when there are ways of dealing with it. I have a very happy and fulfilling life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't understand this thread

I'd say, this thread has succeeded in what it was started for. To cause a row.No it wasnt, it is interesting to know everyone view point.

It's the minority that are turning it into a row. Your lost to me OP was just simply looking for people opinions. Chill out those of you who are arguing. This site is meant to be about fun after all

Probably because most swingers don't view swinging as cheating. Just a thought.

I don't see it as my problem if someone else is cheating. I don't ask because I don't want their life story. Is that condoning? No. It's complete disinterest and letting others get on with what they want to do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

Not being personal huh ?

You don't agree with what we are doing you say ?

........

I dont agree with what you are saying or doing, victimising and making it personal .... is it okay not to agree with what is happening on this thread?

The above quote was what you said on your couple profile to us . It had no relation to what's happened on the thread and your suggestion of victimising .

You have made comments which suggest couples who swing don't have such a great sex life together , or they wouldn't swing .

That's what has caused the comments made .

Huh?

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By *epper123Woman
over a year ago

London

"I don't understand this thread

I'd say, this thread has succeeded in what it was started for. To cause a row.No it wasnt, it is interesting to know everyone view point.

It's the minority that are turning it into a row. Your lost to me OP was just simply looking for people opinions. Chill out those of you who are arguing. This site is meant to be about fun after all

Probably because most swingers don't view swinging as cheating. Just a thought.

Isn't it encouraging cheating then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think once a cheater, always a cheater ....

Actually, I'm proof that isn't the case.

I was a serial cheater. Since I was... about 15... I never had a relationship where I didn't cheat on the person. I just cheated because I got bored and wanted to have sex with other people.

Maybe if I was fortunate enough to have that relationship then I wouldn't cheat either

Well, when I realised it was available I suggested it to my partner and offered him non-monogamy. He wanted to be monogamous, so we split up.

You *could* have a relationship like mine - but you'd have to want it enough to actually do something about it.

I wouldn't walk out on a happy marriage over one solitary issue when there are ways of dealing with it. I have a very happy and fulfilling life

Fair enough.

Sex is a massive part of my life - I couldn't understand or imagine not sharing that part of my life with a partner that I had a committed relationship with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"One may not be cheating, but the person they are meeting may well be '... so isn't that encouraging and condoning cheating? I don't have am opinion here, just asking

That's why some of us go as far as we reasonably can to make sure that the person we're meeting isn't cheating."

There aren't many ways to make sure the other person isn't cheating though, unless you know full names, addresses etc,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't understand this thread

I'd say, this thread has succeeded in what it was started for. To cause a row.No it wasnt, it is interesting to know everyone view point.

It's the minority that are turning it into a row. Your lost to me OP was just simply looking for people opinions. Chill out those of you who are arguing. This site is meant to be about fun after all

Probably because most swingers don't view swinging as cheating. Just a thought.

Isn't it encouraging cheating then? "

I don't see it that way. I'm not making them do it. That's why i don't ask. They do it of their own free will.

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over a year ago

"One may not be cheating, but the person they are meeting may well be '... so isn't that encouraging and condoning cheating? I don't have am opinion here, just asking

That's why some of us go as far as we reasonably can to make sure that the person we're meeting isn't cheating.

There aren't many ways to make sure the other person isn't cheating though, unless you know full names, addresses etc,"

I do things like make it very clear that I expect to meet at theirs very early on. It's easy to tell when you're in someones home if someone else lives there too - or even if they are in a longish term relationship with someone who doesn't live there.

Perhaps I'm more intelligent than most. Perhaps I just learned very quickly from being a cheat. Perhaps I learned the hard way from being cheated on. But I can spot someone who is cheating very early on.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"I don't understand this thread

I'd say, this thread has succeeded in what it was started for. To cause a row.No it wasnt, it is interesting to know everyone view point.

It's the minority that are turning it into a row. Your lost to me OP was just simply looking for people opinions. Chill out those of you who are arguing. This site is meant to be about fun after all

Probably because most swingers don't view swinging as cheating. Just a thought.

Isn't it encouraging cheating then?

I don't see it that way. I'm not making them do it. That's why i don't ask. They do it of their own free will. "

But by being easily available?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

Not being personal huh ?

You don't agree with what we are doing you say ?

........

I dont agree with what you are saying or doing, victimising and making it personal .... is it okay not to agree with what is happening on this thread?

The above quote was what you said on your couple profile to us . It had no relation to what's happened on the thread and your suggestion of victimising .

You have made comments which suggest couples who swing don't have such a great sex life together , or they wouldn't swing .

That's what has caused the comments made .

Actually thinking about it we don't give a shit,we are a couple ,we have a great sex life together,there's nothing missing in our sex life ,we love swinging as a couple together as an extension to what we have

if people don't get it or understand it or believe us,actually who gives a flying fuck.....if that's personal or vindictive tough titties

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the other thread about a man in a couple was meeting without the wife, few did agree that it did encourage it abit, what is your view on it?"

I think the biggest common factor is marriage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"One may not be cheating, but the person they are meeting may well be '... so isn't that encouraging and condoning cheating? I don't have am opinion here, just asking

That's why some of us go as far as we reasonably can to make sure that the person we're meeting isn't cheating.

There aren't many ways to make sure the other person isn't cheating though, unless you know full names, addresses etc,

Good on you

but even if I was single I wouldn't want random people coming into my home. I would always want to meet elsewhere so that would make you think someone was cheating. It's never black and white

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't understand this thread

I'd say, this thread has succeeded in what it was started for. To cause a row.No it wasnt, it is interesting to know everyone view point.

It's the minority that are turning it into a row. Your lost to me OP was just simply looking for people opinions. Chill out those of you who are arguing. This site is meant to be about fun after all

Probably because most swingers don't view swinging as cheating. Just a thought.

Isn't it encouraging cheating then?

I don't see it that way. I'm not making them do it. That's why i don't ask. They do it of their own free will.

But by being easily available?"

I'm hardly easily available! If they are that keen to cheat on their partner to jump through all my hoops then I'm not going to stop them. I'm not going to give them the third degree either. It's their guilt not mine.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

I think its becoming very personal, yourself and two other posters asking me personally ....

Asking you a question on the forum is allowed especially if you comment on something in a negative way and yet are doing it yourself.

On another post you say you are being victimised because people are challenging what you have written. That is the nature of a forum, if you don't want to be challenged about your posts maybe refrain from posting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?"

My thoughts exactly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"One may not be cheating, but the person they are meeting may well be '... so isn't that encouraging and condoning cheating? I don't have am opinion here, just asking

That's why some of us go as far as we reasonably can to make sure that the person we're meeting isn't cheating.

There aren't many ways to make sure the other person isn't cheating though, unless you know full names, addresses etc,

Good on you

but even if I was single I wouldn't want random people coming into my home. I would always want to meet elsewhere so that would make you think someone was cheating. It's never black and white"

I can totally understand that - which means that I'm just not compatible with that person. I don't feel like I have to be compatible with everyone.

I'm very happy for people to come to my home - in fact I encourage it. We have different partners over all the time so it's no problem.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

Not being personal huh ?

You don't agree with what we are doing you say ?

........

I dont agree with what you are saying or doing, victimising and making it personal .... is it okay not to agree with what is happening on this thread?

The above quote was what you said on your couple profile to us . It had no relation to what's happened on the thread and your suggestion of victimising .

You have made comments which suggest couples who swing don't have such a great sex life together , or they wouldn't swing .

That's what has caused the comments made .

if people don't get it or understand it or believe us,actually who gives a flying fuck.....if that's personal or vindictive tough titties "

Was just asking someone too explain, then I got the third degree. Okay, not sire if you are one of those couples who waxes lyrical about their perfect relationship anyway ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's lots of couples on here that only swing to stop the other person cheating. There's loads more couples on here that use swinging to patch up their relationship because without swinging they would have nothing.

It's sad, especially when they can't see it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People cheat because they want to. Nothing to do with swinging.

If they weren't swinging with their partner would still cheat.

Where there's a will...

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

I think its becoming very personal, yourself and two other posters asking me personally ....

Asking you a question on the forum is allowed especially if you comment on something in a negative way and yet are doing it yourself.

Sorry, put it in the wrong place. People can challenge, no worries, but people referring to my profile and my relationship, when I dont refer to theirs is making it too personal. No need for they in a logical discussion, sirely

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Sorry, but personally I think that's a complete load of bollocks...

Firstly, cheating is by its very nature an act of deceit and dishonesty. It's not cheating if you're playing by the rules.

Certainly for us, we enjoy swinging "together". We don't meet seperately or go off into different rooms. More importantly though, we continue to interact with each other and take pleasure in each other's pleasures and experiences.

Cal

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

No. People finding other people to have sex with, which can be via a multitude of approaches/sites/real life/venues etc and someone deciding to cheat is what causes the actual moment of cheating. There can be contributory factors, including failing relationships, poor compatibilty but ultimately every single moment that we are in charge of our faculties, we are directing our lives in ways of our choice. It's the moments when we are wronging someone else that are the moments when we fail others as well as ourselves. But, it's our body and our own life. I don't cheat and am single as this suits me well atm.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But if they didn't swing could they be faithful

Of course they could why couldn't they? It's just an extension to an already great sex life

I never get this ... if it's that great, why isn't it enough?

Oh my days .... I give up .

I know you've said you're not typical swingers , but that comment just takes the biscuit .

Jeez .... what has it come to on here ?

Not being personal huh ?

You don't agree with what we are doing you say ?

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I dont agree with what you are saying or doing, victimising and making it personal .... is it okay not to agree with what is happening on this thread?

The above quote was what you said on your couple profile to us . It had no relation to what's happened on the thread and your suggestion of victimising .

You have made comments which suggest couples who swing don't have such a great sex life together , or they wouldn't swing .

That's what has caused the comments made .

Not once have we ever commented on your relationship !

If you write ' I never get this .... if it's that great why isn't it enough ? ' , what do you expect ?

Then you claim that we victimise you !

If you are careful with what you write , then try to be as careful in what we write too . We haven't made any comments about your personal life at any stage .

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"There's lots of couples on here that only swing to stop the other person cheating. There's loads more couples on here that use swinging to patch up their relationship because without swinging they would have nothing.

It's sad, especially when they can't see it. "

Oh dear. You don't say? Now you're in for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think its becoming very personal, yourself and two other posters asking me personally ....

Asking you a question on the forum is allowed especially if you comment on something in a negative way and yet are doing it yourself.

Actually I think that people were bringing up valid points. You appeared to be being hypocritical (and it does still look that way) by saying you have a great relationship but you also want sex outside of it.

Several people, including myself, have explained how that can be possible - but you've not engaged those discussion points and instead you're just having a whinge about how you've been victimised or something.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's sad, especially when they can't see it. "

Very well said. Hide the real issues behind the swinging scene

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

4 years ago husband and I were living apart during the week due to his job transfer from Scotland to London. With statistics as high as nearly half of men cheating at some point I felt I had a 50:50 chance of this happening to me, especially as he was now on his own in London. So I gave him permission to have extra marital sex. As it turned out he never did during this period. A year later we started exploring hotwifing, and after another year we became active on the swing scene. I have never taken back his right to see other women without me, as long as he tells me, and as long as he puts me and his family first. This suits me, because it means he can't cheat on me.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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I think its becoming very personal, yourself and two other posters asking me personally ....

Asking you a question on the forum is allowed especially if you comment on something in a negative way and yet are doing it yourself.

You are referring to other peoples relationships and people are pointing out that you are doing the same as what you suggest is a negative thing. It is relevant to the discussion

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