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"We don't tell lies to our kids, we just don't discuss our sex life with them." Well I know what you mean, there are ways to word things without actually telling lies but thats just the mechanics really. I know our sex life is nothing to do with anyone else but us but for me this is the downside. | |||
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"Our children have left home and have their own lives so we dn't get to know exactly what they are doing , the same as they don't know exactly what we are doing, be that just going out for a meal or having a meet for sex....although if they asked what we had been up to, we would only be telling them about the meal type of going out and not the meeting for sex meet. If we were playing these games when the kids were younger then yes, we would tell them we were off out, and if they asked, we would say where, but not say why. Kids don't need to know everything, so I wouldn't feel bad about it if I was you " Well they just cant in this case and appreciate what you say though. Maybe its just a fear that one day they may find out somehow and feel we were lieing to them for years. Not telling lies was a big thing drummed into me as a child (although as an adult you realise that the world couldnt function without them). Anyway, hopefully they wont and if they do they may be old enough to understand why it was necessary. They are teenagers now. Teenagers can hardly handle the idea of their parents having sex with each other let alone other people! lol | |||
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" They are teenagers now. Teenagers can hardly handle the idea of their parents having sex with each other let alone other people! lol " lol exactly. I get what you are saying, but I still think what adults do with their sex life doesn't have to be told to anyone if you don't want to. | |||
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"Think you should change the thread title to "most swinging parents are liars". Not all swingers have kids. " Hm, well I do see your point but... 1. I dont know how to... 2. Surely most swingers lie or mislead at some time? | |||
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"Hm, well I do see your point but... 1. I dont know how to... 2. Surely most swingers lie or mislead at some time? " I've never lied to anyone I've swung with. My profile's as honest as can be and I don't set out to mislead anyone either. There are plenty on here like me too, who are honest and straightforward. | |||
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"I struggle to understand why people think they need to discuss the minutea of their lives with their kids or others. As a parent I KNOW I'm a hypocrite for sure. I'll warn my children of the dangers of meeting people off the internet etc, but my friends and family do not need to know what I get up to. Blimey, if my friends knew where my mouth had been they would offer me a drink in a disposable cup: assuming they'd let me into their houses without a haz mat suit! I've got quite good at asking my children and their partners what they're up to so I can have an evening of fun. My children believe when they go out it's an opportunity for me to watch Corrie on the wide screen tv downstairs. In reality I hog tied nervous men to my dining table and did all sorts to them before leading them upstairs...why would I shatter that illusion?!! " You continue to terrify me Sassy. As you say I dread to think what your nearest and dearest would think My family would be horrified to find out what I'd been up to as well I reckon, but then I know nothing about their sex life - so long may we all remain in ignorance. | |||
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"Think you should change the thread title to "most swinging parents are liars". Not all swingers have kids. " I'm skipping over the performing seal comment above... I wouldn't know where to begin!! However... I'm not a parent but I still have to lie to mine. I'm 38 years old and live alone. It doesn't stop me having to lie to my mum about where I'm going or how I know all these people. We're a close family and she's interested in my life so I have to come up with something. However... I stick as close to the truth as I can because I have such a shite memory that I'd get found out cause I'd never remember what lie I told!! I met all my swinging friends on a camping trip. We're campers. That's what my mum thinks. I've been to weddings, birthdays, christmas, family stuff... all with the same excuse... "I'm going to a wedding this weekend... oh you know, X from camp?!" Works a treat. It's not the best but I don't believe my mum requires intimate details of my sex life... not to mention the fact that she's utterly homophobic and would be astounded by my sexuality, it's a generation thing and she just doesn't need to know. I don't lie to anyone else. People in my life know what I'm up to. | |||
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"Think you should change the thread title to "most swinging parents are liars". Not all swingers have kids. Hm, well I do see your point but... 1. I dont know how to... 2. Surely most swingers lie or mislead at some time? " Doesn't everyone at some point in their life for some reason? I don't tell my parents because it would upset them and i don't tell my vanilla friends because they'd worry | |||
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" You continue to terrify me Sassy. As you say I dread to think what your nearest and dearest would think My family would be horrified to find out what I'd been up to as well I reckon, but then I know nothing about their sex life - so long may we all remain in ignorance. " I'm a fluffy wuffy middle aged women who visits the garden centre, pots her petunias, recycles her household waste, wears sensible shoes on ocassion...what's to be afraid off?!! | |||
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"have learned a few lessons on here,I have realised that there are a lot of blokes on this site who hide behind a couples profile,you never ever get to see the lady.They try to Pm you and when you ask why no photos on profile you get bullshit about not having a cam or photos taken yet." its 1 of the reason why i wont chose couples as you don't even no who you are talking to | |||
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"have learned a few lessons on here,I have realised that there are a lot of blokes on this site who hide behind a couples profile,you never ever get to see the lady.They try to Pm you and when you ask why no photos on profile you get bullshit about not having a cam or photos taken yet.its 1 of the reason why i wont chose couples as you don't even no who you are talking to " And you dont get single guys posing as single fems either ...where do you draw the line? | |||
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"Putting on hard hat and taking two steps back.... what I mean is... for me, Mistress, the worst thing about swinging is the inevitable lies... to family, friends and neighbours. Ok, neighbours not bothering me too much, maybe friends neither - not really any of their business but when it comes to our children, what a nightmare! We tell the children we must know where they are, who they are with and what they are doing and if not something could happen and we would not know how to find them. Now I know we live in the age of mobile phones but I still feel bad about the lies we have to tell to our loved ones. Is this just me or do others feel this way? " Really dont get this at all do you announce to your kids when your going to have sex ? i think not so why should you when your going swinging we're all adults and this is something that we enjoy away from the vanilla world family and friends so dont see why your feeling so bad about it ? | |||
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"Putting on hard hat and taking two steps back.... what I mean is... for me, Mistress, the worst thing about swinging is the inevitable lies... to family, friends and neighbours. Ok, neighbours not bothering me too much, maybe friends neither - not really any of their business but when it comes to our children, what a nightmare! We tell the children we must know where they are, who they are with and what they are doing and if not something could happen and we would not know how to find them. Now I know we live in the age of mobile phones but I still feel bad about the lies we have to tell to our loved ones. Is this just me or do others feel this way? " But children have not yet gained the level of maturity to look out for themselves properly, which is why it is essential that any parent keeps their finger on the pulse so to speak. A parent needn't tell their offspring everything about their own lives as they don't require that level of protection from their children. On top of which childhood is a magical age and if I were a father I would not want to spoil that for any child by imparting such details of realism. The same way I wouldn't tell a son/daughter of mine that Santa didn't exist at four, or that one day I was going to give them one of the most painful experiences of their lives simply by dying even as they reach their teens. Some things they have to figure out when the time is right. | |||
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"then my profile is lie to if most Swingers are Liars wonder if the op is as well" I dont mean they lie on here necessarily although I know many do, I mean it is sometimes essential to lie or mislead others so that they do not know about our swinging life. This thread is simply me expressing the worst thing about swinging for me and asking if others share that _iew. I do think its sad if things have to become personal. I think I am entitled to post what I have and not expect a personal attack. Not that Im sobbing in the corner... | |||
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"Think you should change the thread title to "most swinging parents are liars". Not all swingers have kids. " We have no kids, no lies, no secrets, no problems! XXXX | |||
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"Putting on hard hat and taking two steps back.... what I mean is... for me, Mistress, the worst thing about swinging is the inevitable lies... to family, friends and neighbours. Ok, neighbours not bothering me too much, maybe friends neither - not really any of their business but when it comes to our children, what a nightmare! We tell the children we must know where they are, who they are with and what they are doing and if not something could happen and we would not know how to find them. Now I know we live in the age of mobile phones but I still feel bad about the lies we have to tell to our loved ones. Is this just me or do others feel this way? But children have not yet gained the level of maturity to look out for themselves properly, which is why it is essential that any parent keeps their finger on the pulse so to speak. A parent needn't tell their offspring everything about their own lives as they don't require that level of protection from their children. On top of which childhood is a magical age and if I were a father I would not want to spoil that for any child by imparting such details of realism. The same way I wouldn't tell a son/daughter of mine that Santa didn't exist at four, or that one day I was going to give them one of the most painful experiences of their lives simply by dying even as they reach their teens. Some things they have to figure out when the time is right." I cant disagree with a wise word most of you have said. Which indeed is why I continue to keep this side of our lives completely private. I think this is just a little complex I have in the back of my head which occasionally makes me feel like a hyprocrite. I will give it the occasional whip and keep it tied up until it behaves. Thanks though, actually this post has made me feel a little better about it. Hard to accept as a parent, that Im only human afterall. | |||
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"I struggle to understand why people think they need to discuss the minutea of their lives with their kids or others. As a parent I KNOW I'm a hypocrite for sure. I'll warn my children of the dangers of meeting people off the internet etc, but my friends and family do not need to know what I get up to. Blimey, if my friends knew where my mouth had been they would offer me a drink in a disposable cup: assuming they'd let me into their houses without a haz mat suit! I've got quite good at asking my children and their partners what they're up to so I can have an evening of fun. My children believe when they go out it's an opportunity for me to watch Corrie on the wide screen tv downstairs. In reality I hog tied nervous men to my dining table and did all sorts to them before leading them upstairs...why would I shatter that illusion?!! " am i the only one that hopes one of sassys kids doesnt come home unreasonably early from said night out????? | |||
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"I struggle to understand why people think they need to discuss the minutea of their lives with their kids or others. As a parent I KNOW I'm a hypocrite for sure. I'll warn my children of the dangers of meeting people off the internet etc, but my friends and family do not need to know what I get up to. Blimey, if my friends knew where my mouth had been they would offer me a drink in a disposable cup: assuming they'd let me into their houses without a haz mat suit! I've got quite good at asking my children and their partners what they're up to so I can have an evening of fun. My children believe when they go out it's an opportunity for me to watch Corrie on the wide screen tv downstairs. In reality I hog tied nervous men to my dining table and did all sorts to them before leading them upstairs...why would I shatter that illusion?!! am i the only one that hopes one of sassys kids doesnt come home unreasonably early from said night out????? " Nope, but she is a little scary so I kept stom. | |||
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"The reason most swingers have to lie is because unlike the LGBT groups we have less protection from the moral religious brigade and the wolves of the media. After being exposed in a national newspaper last year which divulged my secret to my teenage children "and the world", I have to say that children and friends come around eventually and your sexuality will become accepted. Learn to stand up for your sexual freedom and the shallow minded will eventually leave you alone. We as swingers have the same rights as bi-sexual's as they have to veer toward polygamy to feed their sexual desires as we like to. What I find wrong is that the media is not allowed to disclose a persons sexuality if they are Bi sexual but they are allowed to disclose our sexuality as polygamous heterosexuals. I openly admit to my freedom of sexuality and have educated many who do not understand it. For me, lies are a thing of the past. " I don't think polygamy is the word you are looking for here - it means marrying multiple wives. I get what you're trying to say about swingers opting for non-monogamy (which I think is a better, more accurate term) but many bisexuals are very monogamous indeed - it's more that they are attracted to people of either sex, but do not necessarily want multiple bed partners. Agree that the tabloids often have no qualms about breaching someone's privacy though, when it comes to sexual behaviour. | |||
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"I'm definitely a Friar. And the worst kind I can tell you " brother hi can you lie | |||
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"I'm definitely a Friar. And the worst kind I can tell you " Trust Mr Bellows for he know what he speaketh off ......... | |||
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"I'm definitely a Friar. And the worst kind I can tell you brother hi can you lie " Of course I can my son. Liketh the swine in muck | |||
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"I'm definitely a Friar. And the worst kind I can tell you Trust Mr Bellows for he know what he speaketh off ........." Thou speakest the truth on the liars thread? You are truly worthy of a blessing my friend | |||
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"I'm definitely a Friar. And the worst kind I can tell you Trust Mr Bellows for he know what he speaketh off ......... Thou speakest the truth on the liars thread? You are truly worthy of a blessing my friend " he speaks the truth like all friars tuck and all | |||
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"I'm definitely a Friar. And the worst kind I can tell you Trust Mr Bellows for he know what he speaketh off ......... Thou speakest the truth on the liars thread? You are truly worthy of a blessing my friend " Beseech me Friar but I speak only of the truth & wish i could do the girlie accent | |||
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"There is a simple phrase you can use instead of lying, "Mind your own business". One of my favourite replies if someone ever asks, 'Are you gay' or 'Are you bisexual' is, "That's non of your business unless you'd like to have sex with me" Part of the thrill for us in this hobby is the escapism, stepping out of what is considered normal or socially acceptable or should I say socially expected. So the fact that it's private is actually a part of it for us. When nice polite people are interested as to 'Have you had a good weekend?' they are perfectly happy with a 'Yes it was great, we spent it with friends'. On the other hand the typical nosey bastard will press and pry, to whom I say, "Well if we wanted you to know that much about it we would have invited you to join us" Then some times we do tell, 'Have you had a good weekend?' 'Yeah it was ok, just the usual orgy' 'yeah right, so you was digging the garden then' All my kids have flown the nest now but as it was nearing that time and my teenage daughter would say, "Is it ok if I stay out at so-and-so's house" laughingly we'd say, "Yes please, then we can have a great night of sex" which usually got a 'aw daaaaaad!!!' but still they knew the door was locked till the next morning but they never knew what was really happening behind the door. " What a great tip, Im gonna use it! thanks!!! lol | |||
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"usually the ones stating VVWE and they unzip and lob it out... and..... I get a flashback to my Xmas lunch and something with a rasher of bacon wrapped round it sitting alongside my turkey and sprouts........ " um... are you lost? | |||
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"usually the ones stating VVWE and they unzip and lob it out... and..... I get a flashback to my Xmas lunch and something with a rasher of bacon wrapped round it sitting alongside my turkey and sprouts........ um... are you lost? " No. | |||
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"We don't tell lies to our kids, we just don't discuss our sex life with them." totally agree, your sex life if your own business. | |||
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" am i the only one that hopes one of sassys kids doesnt come home unreasonably early from said night out????? " I've had a couple of near misses - one, only because my friend was sat opposite my daughter on the train. She should have been in college. My friend works in London Bridge, 12 minutes from me. He phoned to say he was sat opposite my daughter. He'd never met any of my children so I said, no, she's in college. He said, she's the spitting image of you - she is, apart from the fact she's a size 8 I'm a size 22! Any how he said, if she gets off at your station we'll know. At this point I'm dressed for play, restraints visible on the bed, guest towels in the bathroom, male toiletries etc. He then phones giggling, saying my daughter got off at the station, and if it's her I have 10 minutes before she comes through the door. It took me 10 minutes to get my boots on!!! It was like a scene out of a comedy, removing the restraints, taking guest stuff out of the bathroom, removing my clothing and putting my pjs back on, I just got back into bed when I heard "hi". Her classes had been cancelled. I had to phone my friend and tell him he was right - it was my daughter...that was too close! We laugh about it still! | |||
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" Nope, but she is a little scary so I kept stom. " Scary?!! Me?!! I'm a fluffy, wuffy, softy - honestly I am! | |||
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" Nope, but she is a little scary so I kept stom. Scary?!! Me?!! I'm a fluffy, wuffy, softy - honestly I am! " you are and say it how it is , lol xx | |||
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" Nope, but she is a little scary so I kept stom. Scary?!! Me?!! I'm a fluffy, wuffy, softy - honestly I am! you are and say it how it is , lol xx " See...see...all sweetness me. Mwah Jo xxx | |||
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"Think you should change the thread title to "most swinging parents are liars". Not all swingers have kids. Hm, well I do see your point but... 1. I dont know how to... 2. Surely most swingers lie or mislead at some time? " I would tend to agree. When I was a married man, happily swinging with the wife as it were, we used to have so many college reunions, works does etc, to explain away why we were staying away overnight on a Saturday - at one stage when we were going to Xtasia once every two months our folks were seriously starting to wonder what was going on | |||
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"Hm, well I do see your point but... 1. I dont know how to... 2. Surely most swingers lie or mislead at some time? I've never lied to anyone I've swung with. My profile's as honest as can be and I don't set out to mislead anyone either. There are plenty on here like me too, who are honest and straightforward. " I don't think the OP is referring to telling lies to people you are swinging with. They are referring to things you tell people to explain away what you are up to/where you are going. I think!! | |||
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"Putting on hard hat and taking two steps back.... what I mean is... for me, Mistress, the worst thing about swinging is the inevitable lies... to family, friends and neighbours. Ok, neighbours not bothering me too much, maybe friends neither - not really any of their business but when it comes to our children, what a nightmare! We tell the children we must know where they are, who they are with and what they are doing and if not something could happen and we would not know how to find them. Now I know we live in the age of mobile phones but I still feel bad about the lies we have to tell to our loved ones. Is this just me or do others feel this way? Really dont get this at all do you announce to your kids when your going to have sex ? i think not so why should you when your going swinging we're all adults and this is something that we enjoy away from the vanilla world family and friends so dont see why your feeling so bad about it ? " Yeah, but when your vanilla friends or family ask you where are you going on Saturday night and the real answer is 'to get fucked by two guys at a club I know', what do you actually tell them??? | |||
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"The reason most swingers have to lie is because unlike the LGBT groups we have less protection from the moral religious brigade and the wolves of the media. After being exposed in a national newspaper last year which divulged my secret to my teenage children "and the world", I have to say that children and friends come around eventually and your sexuality will become accepted. Learn to stand up for your sexual freedom and the shallow minded will eventually leave you alone. We as swingers have the same rights as bi-sexual's as they have to veer toward polygamy to feed their sexual desires as we like to. What I find wrong is that the media is not allowed to disclose a persons sexuality if they are Bi sexual but they are allowed to disclose our sexuality as polygamous heterosexuals. I openly admit to my freedom of sexuality and have educated many who do not understand it. For me, lies are a thing of the past. I don't think polygamy is the word you are looking for here - it means marrying multiple wives. I get what you're trying to say about swingers opting for non-monogamy (which I think is a better, more accurate term) but many bisexuals are very monogamous indeed - it's more that they are attracted to people of either sex, but do not necessarily want multiple bed partners. Agree that the tabloids often have no qualms about breaching someone's privacy though, when it comes to sexual behaviour. " i believe the word you may be looking for is polyamory . the practise/ desire of having more than one intimate partner, | |||
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