FabSwingers.com forum: The single man

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

No cock pic means, don't send it unless you're asked! No means no, if you don't like it, grow up and let it go. Don't harass people demanding answers, we've all got our own tastes and don't owe you any explanation.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

In a club recently I was interrupted mid conversation three times by the same two guys, trying to muscle me out.. To the point we had to move away. I also witnessed rudeness to the point it was aggressive. In a club! Where there is rules about that behavior. Anytime a woman thought about entering a dark alcove.. 15 blokes rush in!

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

This isn't a competitive sport for me.. I'm looking to meet nice people, get to know what they like, tell them what I enjoy and hopefully have a little fun occasionally. But that's like you mean I have to stand out, jump through hoops to prove I'm not like you, be treated like scum and ignored, to prove I'm not like you. When in reality... When I'm myself... I meet beautiful people.

I'm beginning to think this lifestyle is best laid to rest till I find a person worth sharing it with. And I tell you what men... You better have an outstanding personality and show a little respect to everyone - because most of you seem like the type of men I warn my sister about.

Unfortunately this applies to you bi, gay and curious.. I thought you'd be a little more understanding but no. For some reason you think it's acceptable to come on to me.. When it's clear.. I'm not looking for you!

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Singles at clubs are worse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They must be picking on you...they don't effect my time on here whatsoever

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Singles at clubs are worse "

Be it singles or couples, if we take time to visit a club we just do not tolerate bad behaviour.

No one should have to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They must be picking on you...they don't effect my time on here whatsoever

So why bother posting anything ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Other single men are thinking the same as you. You're the single man they are moaning about. How do you suppose to thin down the numbers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Other single men are thinking the same as you. You're the single man they are moaning about. How do you suppose to thin down the numbers? "

Well the cynic in me might suggest the single guys actually attend a meet

That might scare most away

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They must be picking on you...they don't effect my time on here whatsoever

So why bother posting anything ?"

So i should only post when?

When i agree?

When my experience is the same as that of the op?

Set me some parameters as to when and where i should post would you kind chap...cheers

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By *oward1978Man
over a year ago

Rotherham

Lots of things can effect how things work out for you on Fab but not other single men. Single guys who act like dicks only ever ruin things for themselves. We all just plough our own furrow at the end of the day. I don't even notice other single guys most of the time.

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By *arnayguyMan
over a year ago

Durham Tees

'The vast majority'....'every single man'?

You might be frustrated but I think you might be getting carried away a teensy bit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"'The vast majority'....'every single man'?

You might be frustrated but I think you might be getting carried away a teensy bit. "

Honestly...op is one of the very few decent guys in here...all the rest of us are awful..we ruin it for him we really do.

We turn up in places he wants for himself..put everyone off him.

It's a tough life for him on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Other single men are thinking the same as you. You're the single man they are moaning about. How do you suppose to thin down the numbers? "
Not all single men think the same, one idea is for fab to stop the joining number for men for a week or 2.

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By *tarbeckCouple
over a year ago

york

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all! "
To be honest we have only had one or two rude single men on here , sorry to say but the women can be the worst x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all! "

Are you a woman in a mans body...welcome to the world of a single female!

On a little bit serious note just be yourself & you'll do fine. You appear to have good morals & a good set of standards so don't let the other ignorant idiots get to you! Have fun & do what you do. We all come across Fuckwits in everyday life, on here it's just more as we are all in one room - so to say - in the outside world you don't notice them but trust me they are out there & are just as bad

Have faith in yourself & have fun x

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

We don't have a lot of problems with single men, either on this profile or our single ones. We get most 'bother' from presumptuous couples.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all! To be honest we have only had one or two rude single men on here , sorry to say but the women can be the worst x"

And this too - some women are horrendous on here & in clubs!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dont think it is just single guys i think there is polite and rude on here from everyone.even though i believe in being polite and treating people the same way i want to be treated myself i now think that i am upto about 20 arranged meets that have been cancelled.most of them at the last minute by singles and couples.had couples wink at me and send friend invites only then to block me when i message back saying thank you.had a single female cancel a meet tonight when it was supposed to be just the two of us meeting but then messaged me around midnight saying that she wants to do a filmed threesom with another guy.normally wouldnt have a problem with this but not gonna do it when her kids are asleep in the next room.also got accused of being a timewaster on friday by a single female on friday when i said i didnt have enough money this week for a hotel room and drinks all night but will definately be able to afford it the following week.so after this pretty boring rant what i am saying is that it doesnt matter if you are a single male,female or couple there is pretty much polite and rude everywhere on here

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"'The vast majority'....'every single man'?

You might be frustrated but I think you might be getting carried away a teensy bit.

Honestly...op is one of the very few decent guys in here...all the rest of us are awful..we ruin it for him we really do.

We turn up in places he wants for himself..put everyone off him.

It's a tough life for him on here. "

That's the kind of attitude I'm getting at! I wasn't slagging you off personally. Yet you retaliate personally. I made it quite clear meeting people isn't my issue. It's this aggressive - I'm better than him, out for yourself, rather than your potential partners feelings and not caring who you stomp on to get what you want - like you're attempting to do to me now. I've no grief with you if you treat people like they want to be treated. I'm not competing, I'm me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree. Men are dicks. But if you're meeting singles of any sex over the age of 35 don't expect them to be wonderful people with no character flaws, otherwise they probably wouldn't be single..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all!

Are you a woman in a mans body...welcome to the world of a single female!

Have faith in yourself & have fun x "

Thankyou... Maybe I've a little empathy. The majority of this experience isn't what I was expecting if I'm honest. But to be fair I'm not long in... So I can't be too judgemental.

I assumed a vast difference in numbers of males, females and couples.. But I thought the couples and females would soon out the guys who lack at least some of the chaff who aren't single, cheaters, liars, basic knob heads... But I guess who I think is a knob isn't the same as others.

Club life... That was a big shock to me.. Empty night, too many men to women by a long shot.. And overbearing, competitive shoals of piranha men.

I know I have to put up with this shit to meet the odd diamonds in the rough. I'd definitely like to say a MASSIVE shout out to the male half of most couples. Unsung heroes I'm beginning to realise. How you manage not to lose your cool at times??? I'm a peaceful, laid back dude.. But you guys are horizontal.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"I agree. Men are dicks. But if you're meeting singles of any sex over the age of 35 don't expect them to be wonderful people with no character flaws, otherwise they probably wouldn't be single.."

Hey, we were both single over thirty five on here when we met .... or do we have the same character flaw?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I agree. Men are dicks. But if you're meeting singles of any sex over the age of 35 don't expect them to be wonderful people with no character flaws, otherwise they probably wouldn't be single..

Hey, we were both single over thirty five on here when we met .... or do we have the same character flaw?"

Maybe that's what attracted you!

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By *tarbeckCouple
over a year ago

york

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all!

Are you a woman in a mans body...welcome to the world of a single female!

Have faith in yourself & have fun x

Thankyou... Maybe I've a little empathy. The majority of this experience isn't what I was expecting if I'm honest. But to be fair I'm not long in... So I can't be too judgemental.

Club life... That was a big shock to me.. Empty night, too many men to women by a long shot.. And overbearing, competitive shoals of piranha men.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all!

Are you a woman in a mans body...welcome to the world of a single female!

Have faith in yourself & have fun x

Thankyou... Maybe I've a little empathy. The majority of this experience isn't what I was expecting if I'm honest. But to be fair I'm not long in... So I can't be too judgemental.

Club life... That was a big shock to me.. Empty night, too many men to women by a long shot.. And overbearing, competitive shoals of piranha men.

Never mind about shouting out to the males ... its the women who has to put up with this. Don't you think they get fed up with it too? I get fed up with men assuming its all about men, to be honest ... I know its a men's world and all that, but honestly ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Firstly OP I am not getting at you.

1. Expecting a section of fab that DOES NOT READ profiles to read this thread = naive

2. Couples and single females can use filters. Diminish all their woes (if they have any) grow a pair and message first. If they do not, complaining about people messaging them things they do not like = pointless

3. The majority of guys on this site are quite cool actually (at least from what my meets tell me, but perhaps that's because the people I meet in general tend to message first)

4. There are couples and women on this site that just want to meet people for sex (saw a status message yesterday "fill my c$&t") they couldn't give two hoots about what our opinion is on anything outside of fab. They just want a physical encounter; not stylised arty black and white photos designed to appease the forum faithful.

You have your opinion OP; that's great, I have mine too.. I think your post is designed to say "look at me I'm a nice guy" - that's uber cool, because this is a shop window and we present ourselves to get best results. There's nothing wrong with what you are doing. But there's actually nothing wrong with what the "idiots" are doing either. Fab has filters, if people learned to use them, then maybe we would all be much happier?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My _iew - you're in control of your own destiny.

Don't let the actions of others spoil your chances of success, or blame them if you can't get meets.

Other guys are dicks? Then surely if you're not and you are respectful then you will stand out like a shining beacon over and above the rest.

Shouldn't you be thanking them for making you look so good?

If I can't get meets on here (or elsewhere) it's because I'M not doing enough to impress the ladies - not other guys.

I'm taking ownership of my experience on here, not blaming others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Firstly OP I am not getting at you.

1. Expecting a section of fab that DOES NOT READ profiles to read this thread = naive

3. The majority of guys on this site are quite cool actually (at least from what my meets tell me, but perhaps that's because the people I meet in general tend to message first)

you say it much better than I ever could. Spot on!

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover

"My _iew - you're in control of your own destiny.

Don't let the actions of others spoil your chances of success, or blame them if you can't get meets.

Other guys are dicks? Then surely if you're not and you are respectful then you will stand out like a shining beacon over and above the rest.

Shouldn't you be thanking them for making you look so good?

If I can't get meets on here (or elsewhere) it's because I'M not doing enough to impress the ladies - not other guys.

I'm taking ownership of my experience on here, not blaming others."

Well said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Other single men are thinking the same as you. You're the single man they are moaning about. How do you suppose to thin down the numbers? "

I could do some culling?

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By *rKinkedKuntMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

I'm a single man and I think this thread has made me hate myself, or has it?! Am I dick or not I dunno anymore!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everything in life is relative...

So relative to the other single guys - I'm a catch haha

Imagine if there were no idiots and only charming men, how would you appear to the couples...?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Similar to what others have said, those that aren't pushy idiots do stand out. Even in a busy inbox.

And then there's message filters.

In a club I like going to a quite little corner and finding a random playmate. I also like that I did as much/little as I wanted to then walked away.

Clearly I need to find better dogging spots too! The busy ones...

Anyway, OP, turn your message filters on

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Oh.. I know it's not just the single men.

I've come across many rude couples and single females who have let the level of attention get to their head. People who want me to respect their wishes, yet flout mine.

I've had my private sexual life discussed, in a positive way and not malicious, to personal friends not in scene. I've had a couple talk very loudly and openly in a public crowded place, discuss what they do and want to do with me. Its my private life, if you ask Mr to join you - I need that mutual trust.

9/10 messages that I send are read, then ignored. I spend time and tailor each to my mood, what I'd like, why I like them and respect all profile requests. If I'm not your type, that's fine. No thanks is at least an acknowledgment of the effort made.

I've sent a face picture to local people, on the agreement it's a mutual thing regardless of attraction.. To be ignored again.. Which is upsetting as someone is now potentially aware of who I am.

In short.. There is some disgraceful behavior by many of us.. Straight, gay, bi, Male, female, TV TS, fluid, singers and fetish.. Perhaps if we all lost a few of our isms, gave new people a chance, spoke a bit more, listened a bit more, and were all a little more empathetic to each other.. Most of us could be having great sex as and when we feel like it... Without the shit.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm a single man and I think this thread has made me hate myself, or has it?! Am I dick or not I dunno anymore!"

Lmao! I guess if you're asking yourself.. You are on track to not being a dick. Although you probably aren't one anyway.

I'm sure I've been a dick occasionally, nobody is perfect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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Ooooh what was you going to say?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Op, how do you know single men send cock pics? I've only got the single women and couples word for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I agree. Men are dicks. But if you're meeting singles of any sex over the age of 35 don't expect them to be wonderful people with no character flaws, otherwise they probably wouldn't be single.."

^^this is true. I'm a freaky freaky fuck up!!

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By *oxesMan
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

"My _iew - you're in control of your own destiny.

Don't let the actions of others spoil your chances of success, or blame them if you can't get meets.

Other guys are dicks? Then surely if you're not and you are respectful then you will stand out like a shining beacon over and above the rest.

Shouldn't you be thanking them for making you look so good?

If I can't get meets on here (or elsewhere) it's because I'M not doing enough to impress the ladies - not other guys.

I'm taking ownership of my experience on here, not blaming others."

couldn't put it better myself.

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By *oxesMan
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all! "

you must of have had some unusually really bad experiences op or perceptions of.

yes Single men don't like some single men. but I haven't noticed the nightmare situation in the region I am in. In fact in the 3 years I have been on this site the similar problems to which you prescribed have popped up in the forums.

I think a underestimated/unexplored problem for many is grasping the concepts of the relationshipsand the type of relationships between one another. the amount of swinging freinds fall out over this problem is high.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I agree. Men are dicks. But if you're meeting singles of any sex over the age of 35 don't expect them to be wonderful people with no character flaws, otherwise they probably wouldn't be single.."

It's not me, it's them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"'The vast majority'....'every single man'?

You might be frustrated but I think you might be getting carried away a teensy bit.

Honestly...op is one of the very few decent guys in here...all the rest of us are awful..we ruin it for him we really do.

We turn up in places he wants for himself..put everyone off him.

It's a tough life for him on here.

No you didn't name me...bit you did however come and start slagging great swathes of men off in single sentences so what really did you expect?

You complained about single guys turning up precisely where you, a single guy were. Honestly, that just sounds like your throwing your toys out of the pram.

Other guys muscling you out of conversation in a club? You never been to a standard nightclub or any place else? Numbers of men attempting to chat women up isn't unique to swinging clubs, that's a life thing.

are there loads of single guys in here? Yeah..there's loads of 'competition' on here but you can't change that so worry about the things you can.

Be the guy holding conversation in the club..stand out.

You won't do that with complaining.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all! "

Marry me! Lol seriously though you're spot on! I've not arranged a meet for awhile now due to practically every guy who messages me doesn't fit my simple profile. My main concern is the guy must be single and not hiding behind a single profile. Even doing the searching myself is a challenge! Such hard work and that's not what any of us are here for. Please guys just be more respectful towards woman after all its the least you can do considering its our bodies you're after.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Singles at clubs are worse "

Doio you go to many clubs?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all! "

Actually most single men aren;t the arseholes you claim them to be. And I doubt few couples or single females will fall for your white knighting

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all!

Actually most single men aren;t the arseholes you claim them to be. And I doubt few couples or single females will fall for your white knighting

I quite agree.

White knighting like this is so obviously self promoting

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By *ittenandthepirateCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Most people will look at the sender's profile before deciding whether or not to reply to a message. Maybe something to consider there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most people will look at the sender's profile before deciding whether or not to reply to a message. Maybe something to consider there. "

Exactly what I do. It's obvious just by reading the location or profile itself whether the sender has read my profile / matches what I seek. If he doesn't, I instantly delete. Reading profiles isn't difficult.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Most people will look at the sender's profile before deciding whether or not to reply to a message. Maybe something to consider there. "

I can't stress this enough.. This isn't a poor old me single bloke moan... Gimme some attention. I can see why you think so, but I don't have much of a problem. My profile changes weekly depending on how I feel. Judge it how you will.

I'm moaning about others manners and behavior towards others, because it effects all of us... Singles and couples alike.

Please don't read this as a look at my profile, pick me moan. I had to tone it down, I had a crap night and wrote this in a bad mood. It could have been much worse,but straight to the point. I'd have made a few forum enemies I think - I just think some of us need checking at times, myself included.. Ive been a dick without realising it at times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most people will look at the sender's profile before deciding whether or not to reply to a message. Maybe something to consider there.

I'm moaning about others manners and behavior towards others, because it effects all of us... Singles and couples alike.

How does other men's manners and behaviour effect me?

Personally, when I was meeting I _iewed the types that you are berating as a good thing because they were easy to stand out from

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all! "

Very well said, and welcome to our world xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all!

Very well said, and welcome to our world xx"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most people will look at the sender's profile before deciding whether or not to reply to a message. Maybe something to consider there.

I'm moaning about others manners and behavior towards others, because it effects all of us... Singles and couples alike.

How does other men's manners and behaviour effect me?

Personally, when I was meeting I _iewed the types that you are berating as a good thing because they were easy to stand out from"

Exactly this. Also, the majority of women do have the intelligence to realise not all men are like the ones the OP is describing in his rant, oops, I mean post!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes its a shame. As there are some real nice guys out there that are responsible and respectful and are not pushy. I really would love to meet a single lady who i can do this with. I live in hope!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

And this too - some women are horrendous on here & in clubs!

I agree. Some women can be just as bad or worse. Some even have high levels of self entitlement just because we are in the minority, and therefore have more choice. Respect goes both ways.

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By *enny Ls8Man
over a year ago

leeds

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whether you're consciously doing it or not, you are white knighting.

What outcome are you trying to achieve with this post OP?

The only possible and realistic outcome as far as I can see is show boating.

Your ranting in a very generalised way about a large demographic on here about being selfish and muscling in our however you want to pretty it up, but in the same manner doing exactly the same thing to them by unfurling your feathers and flashing them about.

Exactly what proportion of the (again) generalised demographic were you going to reach with this post?

I applaud your effort, very clever, but let's not be deluded about what it is actually about, albeit hypocritical.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have at times become very irritated with single men on Fab, to the point that I've wanted to block single men. We haven't experienced too much obvious disrespect. Its more the lack of self-respect and general patheticness that upsets me, and sometimes I would rather not see that side of life. And this is with having very extensive filters that reduce our messaging to 2 or 2 single men a day. However my husband screens the messages for me now and deletes all the crap so I don't have to see it. I will then answer all rest.

But we haven't really had any bad experiences on Fab. There hasn't been any abuse or time-wasting. Never been stood up. All the men we've met from Fab have been super. Our experience of men at clubs or parties has been excellent. We have on occasion seen male 'swarming' which is intimidating, but haven't seen that for a long time. We try to treat men well and feel that we get treated well in return.

Mrs

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

OP, you seem to have missed the point.

Dickheads make it easier, not harder for the non-dickheads out there.

Mr 85 picks of his cock, one line message. I salute, you sir. You help me get laid on a regular basis.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Whether you're consciously doing it or not, you are white knighting.

What outcome are you trying to achieve with this post OP?

The only possible and realistic outcome as far as I can see is show boating.

Exactly what proportion of the (again) generalised demographic were you going to reach with this post?

I applaud your effort, very clever, but let's not be deluded about what it is actually about, albeit hypocritical."
k

Showboating and unfurled feathers..? I admire your writing, but you judge me harshly. As are a few of you. Perhaps it's how I've written it.

My target demographic? I was ranting! As someone has already pointed out. It was aimed at anyone, I'm venting off. I had a crap night, there were some bright lights in it.. But I was pretty fucked off afterwards.

You're all entitled to think of me however you like. But this was a rant.. If it makes me look good.. Fucking great. But it wasn't my intention... So no, not big, not clever.. Just a little annoyed by the ever present horny gang of hyenas picking at scraps. And I don't want to become one, if that's what this is about for single guys - I know it's not.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Whether you're consciously doing it or not, you are white knighting.

What outcome are you trying to achieve with this post OP?

The only possible and realistic outcome as far as I can see is show boating.

Exactly what proportion of the (again) generalised demographic were you going to reach with this post?

I applaud your effort, very clever, but let's not be deluded about what it is actually about, albeit hypocritical.k

Showboating and unfurled feathers..? I admire your writing, but you judge me harshly. As are a few of you. Perhaps it's how I've written it.

Nah, you are looking for a shag, pal.

That said, there is nothing wrong with looking for a shag......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whether you're consciously doing it or not, you are white knighting.

What outcome are you trying to achieve with this post OP?

The only possible and realistic outcome as far as I can see is show boating.

Exactly what proportion of the (again) generalised demographic were you going to reach with this post?

I applaud your effort, very clever, but let's not be deluded about what it is actually about, albeit hypocritical.k

Showboating and unfurled feathers..? I admire your writing, but you judge me harshly. As are a few of you. Perhaps it's how I've written it.

Nah, you are looking for a shag, pal.

That said, there is nothing wrong with looking for a shag......"

Aren't most looking for a shag?

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Whether you're consciously doing it or not, you are white knighting.

What outcome are you trying to achieve with this post OP?

The only possible and realistic outcome as far as I can see is show boating.

Exactly what proportion of the (again) generalised demographic were you going to reach with this post?

I applaud your effort, very clever, but let's not be deluded about what it is actually about, albeit hypocritical.k

Showboating and unfurled feathers..? I admire your writing, but you judge me harshly. As are a few of you. Perhaps it's how I've written it.

Nah, you are looking for a shag, pal.

That said, there is nothing wrong with looking for a shag......

Aren't most looking for a shag?

Yep.

Budge over then.

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By *icassolifelikeMan
over a year ago

Luton

Have a beer mate. Life ain't all bad!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whether you're consciously doing it or not, you are white knighting.

What outcome are you trying to achieve with this post OP?

The only possible and realistic outcome as far as I can see is show boating.

Exactly what proportion of the (again) generalised demographic were you going to reach with this post?

I applaud your effort, very clever, but let's not be deluded about what it is actually about, albeit hypocritical.k

Showboating and unfurled feathers..? I admire your writing, but you judge me harshly. As are a few of you. Perhaps it's how I've written it.

Nah, you are looking for a shag, pal.

That said, there is nothing wrong with looking for a shag......

Aren't most looking for a shag?

Yep.

Budge over then.

Wouldn't mind joining you both. Opps did I just say that out loud!?

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Whether you're consciously doing it or not, you are white knighting.

What outcome are you trying to achieve with this post OP?

The only possible and realistic outcome as far as I can see is show boating.

Exactly what proportion of the (again) generalised demographic were you going to reach with this post?

I applaud your effort, very clever, but let's not be deluded about what it is actually about, albeit hypocritical.k

Showboating and unfurled feathers..? I admire your writing, but you judge me harshly. As are a few of you. Perhaps it's how I've written it.

Nah, you are looking for a shag, pal.

That said, there is nothing wrong with looking for a shag......

Aren't most looking for a shag?

Yep.

Budge over then.

Wouldn't mind joining you both. Opps did I just say that out loud!?

Suddenly I really, really like this thread....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

If your not looking for bi or gay guys rather than moan about how about taking some responsibility yourself and block all guys through your filters,easily done

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"I'm moaning about others manners and behavior towards others, because it effects all of us... Singles and couples alike. "

How does it affect us all?

We're all grownups and able to deal with the people we interact with on here.

Single men complaining about single men, and then claiming it's from a white night motive, look like sour grape holding to me.

Worry about oneself not others. And anyone who thinks single men ruin this site for other single men needs to consider why they can't stand out in the sea of mediocrity that they complain about

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By *idsBiGuyMan
over a year ago

Tamworth

I've always been a believer in "you don't ask, you don't get" but in a lot of cases it should be fairly obvious if asking is an exercise in futility such as the case of a 23 year old single man sending a cock pic to a couple that are after females over the age of 30.

But I agree with the aptly put comment above that slow witted, knuckle dragging morons like that make it easier to sort the wheat from the chaff for want of a far better expression.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Whether you're consciously doing it or not, you are white knighting.

What outcome are you trying to achieve with this post OP?

The only possible and realistic outcome as far as I can see is show boating.

Exactly what proportion of the (again) generalised demographic were you going to reach with this post?

I applaud your effort, very clever, but let's not be deluded about what it is actually about, albeit hypocritical.k

Showboating and unfurled feathers..? I admire your writing, but you judge me harshly. As are a few of you. Perhaps it's how I've written it.

Nah, you are looking for a shag, pal.

That said, there is nothing wrong with looking for a shag......

Aren't most looking for a shag?

Yep.

Budge over then.

Wouldn't mind joining you both. Opps did I just say that out loud!?

Suddenly I really, really like this thread....

OK time to budge off my soapbox... As of right now, I'm over it.. Budging into jacuzzi to simmer down lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gotta love these . " I'm a great single guy and every other guy is a prat " threads . Hope it works for you op . But as a single guy I'm doing fine thanks

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

If your not looking for bi or gay guys rather than moan about how about taking some responsibility yourself and block all guys through your filters,easily done "

I did, some time ago, but I still get lots of winks and fabbed pics. Which I'm not fond of if I'm honest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whether you're consciously doing it or not, you are white knighting.

What outcome are you trying to achieve with this post OP?

The only possible and realistic outcome as far as I can see is show boating.

Exactly what proportion of the (again) generalised demographic were you going to reach with this post?

I applaud your effort, very clever, but let's not be deluded about what it is actually about, albeit hypocritical.k

Showboating and unfurled feathers..? I admire your writing, but you judge me harshly. As are a few of you. Perhaps it's how I've written it.

Nah, you are looking for a shag, pal.

That said, there is nothing wrong with looking for a shag......

Aren't most looking for a shag?

Yep.

Budge over then.

Wouldn't mind joining you both. Opps did I just say that out loud!?

The more the merrier

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whether you're consciously doing it or not, you are white knighting.

What outcome are you trying to achieve with this post OP?

The only possible and realistic outcome as far as I can see is show boating.

Exactly what proportion of the (again) generalised demographic were you going to reach with this post?

I applaud your effort, very clever, but let's not be deluded about what it is actually about, albeit hypocritical.k

Showboating and unfurled feathers..? I admire your writing, but you judge me harshly. As are a few of you. Perhaps it's how I've written it.

Nah, you are looking for a shag, pal.

That said, there is nothing wrong with looking for a shag......

Aren't most looking for a shag?

Yep.

Budge over then.

Wouldn't mind joining you both. Opps did I just say that out loud!?

Suddenly I really, really like this thread....

OK time to budge off my soapbox... As of right now, I'm over it.. Budging into jacuzzi to simmer down lol"

Ahhh there we go OP... Feel better now?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

If your not looking for bi or gay guys rather than moan about how about taking some responsibility yourself and block all guys through your filters,easily done

I did, some time ago, but I still get lots of winks and fabbed pics. Which I'm not fond of if I'm honest. "

I'm sure there are plenty of couples and single girls that get winks and messagesee from you that they are not fond of but I'm sure they don't post on the forum about it,man up,get on with it and stop giving it the "I'm a great guy all the rest are crap" I'm sure your as annoying to some as they are to you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Messages

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's nothing wrong with having a moan or venting annoyance - for the soul

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all! "

Marry me!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

If your not looking for bi or gay guys rather than moan about how about taking some responsibility yourself and block all guys through your filters,easily done

I did, some time ago, but I still get lots of winks and fabbed pics. Which I'm not fond of if I'm honest. "

Oh and I (the male) have fabbed your cock for you

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

If your not looking for bi or gay guys rather than moan about how about taking some responsibility yourself and block all guys through your filters,easily done

I did, some time ago, but I still get lots of winks and fabbed pics. Which I'm not fond of if I'm honest.

Oh and I (the male) have fabbed your cock for you

Feeling sheepish.. It's not a homophobic thing, I assure you. It's simply a case of it being a turn off, like feet are for me. I don't hate feet, just not keen on feet when it comes to sex.. But I'm on here for social reasons too... So I should keep my trap shut more often.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

if only the issues that you describe could be resolved by a single forum thread........

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all!

Marry me!!!!"

I can't! You won't even let me wink at you lmao!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"if only the issues that you describe could be resolved by a single forum thread........"

Now I'm less annoyed.. Ive got to point out.. I had a good time too. Have had some amazing experiences. Best part of my night was chatting to a couple - got on with the bloke very well because we used to live in the same country. We all had a giggle about bad meets.

So it's not all bad... I was just a little GRRRRRRRRAAAAAHHHHHH when I wrote the first post.. But trying to hold in the Hulk as I was aware it's a public rant.

Probably the reason everyone thinks Im white KNIGHTING. Never heard of that till now. I'm not a good enough liar to pull that sort of trick. However.. I can't say my profile _iews haven't jumped. Probably people want to have a nosey at the jumped up dick head in the forum!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

If your not looking for bi or gay guys rather than moan about how about taking some responsibility yourself and block all guys through your filters,easily done

I did, some time ago, but I still get lots of winks and fabbed pics. Which I'm not fond of if I'm honest.

Oh and I (the male) have fabbed your cock for you

It's ironic you complain about bi guys messaging you and unwanted attention however we on our profile state when it comes to guys we are not interested in straight guys however you pm us sending us a face pic hmmmm

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all! "
I am not sure if this post is meant to be a wind up.

Luckily on fab the behaviour of others has no impact on your own success . An interesting detailed well written profile with good pictures gets you to the starting point of the race . You then battle your way forward after that . You are judged on your own behaviour , not that of others

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By *icassolifelikeMan
over a year ago

Luton

Save it for Thursdays!

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

A bad workman blames his tools.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

If your not looking for bi or gay guys rather than moan about how about taking some responsibility yourself and block all guys through your filters,easily done

I did, some time ago, but I still get lots of winks and fabbed pics. Which I'm not fond of if I'm honest.

Oh and I (the male) have fabbed your cock for you

If only those pesky single guys would bother to read profiles..............

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They must be picking on you...they don't effect my time on here whatsoever

Yup, don't bother me one little bit. I do pretty well here, can't say, other than reading the OP's rant that I give a single thought to what other singles do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I fucking

single men..

Just sayin'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

order of magnitude

there are plenty of single women,couples,tv/ts,cds etc that 'ruin' the site..of course its easier to single out the largest group though...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

If your not looking for bi or gay guys rather than moan about how about taking some responsibility yourself and block all guys through your filters,easily done

I did, some time ago, but I still get lots of winks and fabbed pics. Which I'm not fond of if I'm honest.

Oh and I (the male) have fabbed your cock for you

Brilliant

has the op done precisely what he's been ranting about?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

If your not looking for bi or gay guys rather than moan about how about taking some responsibility yourself and block all guys through your filters,easily done

I did, some time ago, but I still get lots of winks and fabbed pics. Which I'm not fond of if I'm honest.

Oh and I (the male) have fabbed your cock for you

Brilliant

has the op done precisely what he's been ranting about?

In which I also pointed out I could see I wasn't your type, I just thanked you for fabbing my photo. Did I come onto you?

No I didn't. Instead of trying to make me look like a cunt... In public... How's about you concentrate on yourselves? I'm quite good at making myself look stupid.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

If your not looking for bi or gay guys rather than moan about how about taking some responsibility yourself and block all guys through your filters,easily done

I did, some time ago, but I still get lots of winks and fabbed pics. Which I'm not fond of if I'm honest.

Oh and I (the male) have fabbed your cock for you

Brilliant

has the op done precisely what he's been ranting about?

In which I also pointed out I could see I wasn't your type, I just thanked you for fabbing my photo. Did I come onto you?

No I didn't. Instead of trying to make me look like a cunt... In public... How's about you concentrate on yourselves? I'm quite good at making myself look stupid. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Other single men are thinking the same as you. You're the single man they are moaning about. How do you suppose to thin down the numbers? Not all single men think the same, one idea is for fab to stop the joining number for men for a week or 2."

I did say others, not all.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I'm backing out of this thread.

Too many of you have taken what I've said in totally the wrong way. Or have chosen to deliberately misunderstand.

I wasn't trying to make myself look good, I'm not slagging off every single man. What I've whined about is only what every other thread or status on here is about.

Yet when I do it, I get trolled, attempted entrapment and abused. So I give up on this subject. It was just a rant, nothing to think too long and hard about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm backing out of this thread.

Too many of you have taken what I've said in totally the wrong way. Or have chosen to deliberately misunderstand.

I wasn't trying to make myself look good, I'm not slagging off every single man. What I've whined about is only what every other thread or status on here is about.

Yet when I do it, I get trolled, attempted entrapment and abused. So I give up on this subject. It was just a rant, nothing to think too long and hard about. "

Oh no, you cannot light the blue touch paper then run away!!

Take care

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

If your not looking for bi or gay guys rather than moan about how about taking some responsibility yourself and block all guys through your filters,easily done

I did, some time ago, but I still get lots of winks and fabbed pics. Which I'm not fond of if I'm honest.

Oh and I (the male) have fabbed your cock for you

Brilliant

has the op done precisely what he's been ranting about?

In which I also pointed out I could see I wasn't your type, I just thanked you for fabbing my photo. Did I come onto you?

No I didn't. Instead of trying to make me look like a cunt... In public... How's about you concentrate on yourselves? I'm quite good at making myself look stupid.

You just sent a face pic by accident huh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP if it's any consolation, I'm not sure why you've been subject to so much criticism. I thought you were just getting some irritations off your chest, nothing more sinister than that.

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago

I've been on and off the scene since 2001 as a straight fella meeting cpls/fems around socials, private parties, regular groups/gbang situations.

In that time the majority of single guys who've been with the same cpls/fems as me have always been similarly great guys. There's been the odd occasion when one hasn't fitted in for one reason or another. However on the whole as said the majority have been great hence the great situations & experiences had.

With the ops claimed issues/experience around other single males when he's with cpls/fems he's certainly had an abnormal run of bad luck.

No doubt there's some single who play up but it's certainly a minority not a majority.

However some guys have many issues, paranoia, maybe insecurity about themselves or other single males. That can sometimes result in them tarring their conclusions about the minority on the majority too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP if it's any consolation, I'm not sure why you've been subject to so much criticism. I thought you were just getting some irritations off your chest, nothing more sinister than that.

It's the forums

Sadly a place where opinions are only right if you are a regular in the forums

Bullies are everywhere

Any excuse to gang up on someone who is seeking some words of advice when they are getting shit from other fab users

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"order of magnitude

there are plenty of single women,couples,tv/ts,cds etc that 'ruin' the site..of course its easier to single out the largest group though..."

Well said.

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago

"OP if it's any consolation, I'm not sure why you've been subject to so much criticism. I thought you were just getting some irritations off your chest, nothing more sinister than that.

It's the forums

Sadly a place where opinions are only right if you are a regular in the forums

Bullies are everywhere

Any excuse to gang up on someone who is seeking some words of advice when they are getting shit from other fab users "

Pass judgment and conclusion on a mass of single guys who dont reflect that conclusion. Then when a chunk of that mass speak up/out as they dont its bullying and the originator is a victim.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

If your not looking for bi or gay guys rather than moan about how about taking some responsibility yourself and block all guys through your filters,easily done

I did, some time ago, but I still get lots of winks and fabbed pics. Which I'm not fond of if I'm honest.

Oh and I (the male) have fabbed your cock for you

Brilliant

has the op done precisely what he's been ranting about?

In which I also pointed out I could see I wasn't your type, I just thanked you for fabbing my photo. Did I come onto you?

No I didn't. Instead of trying to make me look like a cunt... In public... How's about you concentrate on yourselves? I'm quite good at making myself look stupid.

You just sent a face pic by accident huh "

No.. It's common decency

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP if it's any consolation, I'm not sure why you've been subject to so much criticism. I thought you were just getting some irritations off your chest, nothing more sinister than that.

I suspect the criticism is based on the fact that when you start a thread in such an inflammatory manner as saying you 'fucking hate singlemen' and suggest that singlemen are 'ruining the scene for everyone' people are going to take offense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP if it's any consolation, I'm not sure why you've been subject to so much criticism. I thought you were just getting some irritations off your chest, nothing more sinister than that.

It's the forums

Sadly a place where opinions are only right if you are a regular in the forums

Bullies are everywhere

Any excuse to gang up on someone who is seeking some words of advice when they are getting shit from other fab users "

Where in the opening post is he seeking advice.

This comment is true in a lot of threads but wide of the mark on this one.

No one bullied the OP.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I don't feel bullied, like you say, it's forums on any subject. Someone doesn't like what you say and they make a mission statement to undermine any point you try to make. For there own kicks. I tend to ignore it.

Glad some of you got the point, shame some of you misunderstood me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP if it's any consolation, I'm not sure why you've been subject to so much criticism. I thought you were just getting some irritations off your chest, nothing more sinister than that.

It's the forums

Sadly a place where opinions are only right if you are a regular in the forums

Bullies are everywhere

Any excuse to gang up on someone who is seeking some words of advice when they are getting shit from other fab users

Pass judgment and conclusion on a mass of single guys who dont reflect that conclusion. Then when a chunk of that mass speak up/out as they dont its bullying and the originator is a victim.

Yes the OP was having a moan about a large quantity of single men. Being a single man himself he obviously didn't mean all single men, and not necesarily anybody from the forums. The 'mass' that he was having a grumble about as a result of his personal experience, probably haven't even read this thread.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP if it's any consolation, I'm not sure why you've been subject to so much criticism. I thought you were just getting some irritations off your chest, nothing more sinister than that.

It's the forums

Sadly a place where opinions are only right if you are a regular in the forums

Bullies are everywhere

Any excuse to gang up on someone who is seeking some words of advice when they are getting shit from other fab users

Pass judgment and conclusion on a mass of single guys who dont reflect that conclusion. Then when a chunk of that mass speak up/out as they dont its bullying and the originator is a victim.

Mrs"

Oh bloody hell, so this has all been for nothing then??!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all! "
yes I was think in it Too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

If your not looking for bi or gay guys rather than moan about how about taking some responsibility yourself and block all guys through your filters,easily done

I did, some time ago, but I still get lots of winks and fabbed pics. Which I'm not fond of if I'm honest.

Oh and I (the male) have fabbed your cock for you

Brilliant

has the op done precisely what he's been ranting about?

In which I also pointed out I could see I wasn't your type, I just thanked you for fabbing my photo. Did I come onto you?

No I didn't. Instead of trying to make me look like a cunt... In public... How's about you concentrate on yourselves? I'm quite good at making myself look stupid.

You just sent a face pic by accident huh

No.. It's common decency "

However you sent an unwanted message to us along with a face pic although you admitted you didn't fit what we were looking for,the very thing you had a rant about regarding other men. Give up with the bullying,entrapment and trolling rubbish because nobody on here has done that

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

If your not looking for bi or gay guys rather than moan about how about taking some responsibility yourself and block all guys through your filters,easily done

I did, some time ago, but I still get lots of winks and fabbed pics. Which I'm not fond of if I'm honest.

Oh and I (the male) have fabbed your cock for you

Brilliant

has the op done precisely what he's been ranting about?

In which I also pointed out I could see I wasn't your type, I just thanked you for fabbing my photo. Did I come onto you?

No I didn't. Instead of trying to make me look like a cunt... In public... How's about you concentrate on yourselves? I'm quite good at making myself look stupid.

You just sent a face pic by accident huh

No.. It's common decency

I was going to send this in private, but you just said you never wanted me to message you. So why the fuck did you fab my picture? So you could humiliate me, hoping I'd want you enough to Crack on to you?

Thats a kind of entrapment when you post the results in public. Trying to make me look an idiot. It's no wonder you assume I'm pulling the bully card, you didn't understand the original post, so I can't expect you to follow it properly. I said I didn't feel bullied in response to someone else's post.

We obviously don't get on and are unlikely to ever do. So how's about we leave it at that for now. Peace?

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"I wasn't trying to make myself look good, I'm not slagging off every single man."

Forgive me if I'm one of the people who read it wrong but when I saw "I fucking hate the single man" it looked to me that you were talking about every single man.

But what would I know

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP if it's any consolation, I'm not sure why you've been subject to so much criticism. I thought you were just getting some irritations off your chest, nothing more sinister than that.

It's the forums

Sadly a place where opinions are only right if you are a regular in the forums

Bullies are everywhere

Any excuse to gang up on someone who is seeking some words of advice when they are getting shit from other fab users

Pass judgment and conclusion on a mass of single guys who dont reflect that conclusion. Then when a chunk of that mass speak up/out as they dont its bullying and the originator is a victim.

Yes it's bullying! He was clearly only venting. None of you needed to jump down this throat. You and others like you cannot speak for every single man on here. Yet here you are tying to do exactly that! As a single woman I can assure you most single guys on here aren't actually single. Lost count with the amount I've blocked! Having ago at someone for voicing their opinion shows more about you then him! And no I haven't met him so I've no need to personally stick up for him. Some people on here ought to be ashamed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

If your not looking for bi or gay guys rather than moan about how about taking some responsibility yourself and block all guys through your filters,easily done

I did, some time ago, but I still get lots of winks and fabbed pics. Which I'm not fond of if I'm honest.

Oh and I (the male) have fabbed your cock for you

Brilliant

has the op done precisely what he's been ranting about?

In which I also pointed out I could see I wasn't your type, I just thanked you for fabbing my photo. Did I come onto you?

No I didn't. Instead of trying to make me look like a cunt... In public... How's about you concentrate on yourselves? I'm quite good at making myself look stupid.

You just sent a face pic by accident huh

No.. It's common decency

We obviously don't get on and are unlikely to ever do. So how's about we leave it at that for now. Peace? "

We didn't need to make you look like an idiot in public

our only point was maybe you should think twice when posting something that runs other guys down when you have done exactly what you had a rant over others doing,but yes let's leave it there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm backing out of this thread.

Too many of you have taken what I've said in totally the wrong way. Or have chosen to deliberately misunderstand.

I wasn't trying to make myself look good, I'm not slagging off every single man. What I've whined about is only what every other thread or status on here is about.

Yet when I do it, I get trolled, attempted entrapment and abused. So I give up on this subject. It was just a rant, nothing to think too long and hard about. "

You've used some pretty strong words there.

Make a fist and point a finger, if you look closely 3 fingers are pointing back at you.

Trolling:

In Internet slang, a troll (/'tro?l/, /'tr?l/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often for their own amusement.

I'm not sure anyone who has posted in this thread falls under the definition of the above. If anything it's your original post that's the inflammatory. And as I said previously, there was a subconscious or conscious motivation there for doing so, in my opinion.

Entrapment:

"In criminal law, entrapment is a practice whereby a law enforcement agent induces a person to commit a criminal offense that the person would have otherwise been unlikely to commit.[1] It is a conduct that is generally discouraged and thus, in many jurisdictions, is a possible defense against criminal liability."

Legal jargon aside, no one enticed you into your actions, which in line with the accompanying post on this thread was clearly done (with openness and transparency) to effect and prove a point of arguement against your own arguement.

Just wondering, who entrapped you into starting this thread?

Bullying:

"Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively dominate others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual. One essential prerequisite is the perception, by the bully or by others, of an imbalance of social or physical power, which distinguishes bullying from conflict.[1] Behaviors used to assert such domination can include verbal harassment or threat, physical assault or coercion, and such acts may be directed repeatedly towards particular targets. Rationalizations for such behavior sometimes include differences of social class, race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, appearance, behavior, body language, personality, reputation, lineage, strength, size or ability.[2][3] If bullying is done by a group, it is called mobbing.[4]"

Not sure where that fits in here? Observations have been made, judgments made, not sure anyone has been particularly rude, aggressive or threatening?

I would hasten to add, if anything fits into this category it was your original post.

Abused:

"Abuse is the improper usage or treatment of an entity, often to unfairly or improperly gain benefit.[1] Abuse can come in many forms, such as: physical or verbal maltreatment, injury, assault, violation, rape, unjust practices; crimes, or other types of aggression."

Again, I must say, by definition I don't think if anyone has abused you, and if you feel as such, then do report whomever you may feel has done so.

I would again say, if anyone's post would appear abusive, it was your own original post which was derogatory to a large demographic in a sweeping and generalised manner.

All the above may give some insight into why people have responded as negatively as they have?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm backing out of this thread.

Too many of you have taken what I've said in totally the wrong way. Or have chosen to deliberately misunderstand.

I wasn't trying to make myself look good, I'm not slagging off every single man. What I've whined about is only what every other thread or status on here is about.

Yet when I do it, I get trolled, attempted entrapment and abused. So I give up on this subject. It was just a rant, nothing to think too long and hard about.

You've used some pretty strong words there.

Make a fist and point a finger, if you look closely 3 fingers are pointing back at you.

Trolling:

Entrapment:

Just wondering, who entrapped you into starting this thread?

Bullying:

Not sure where that fits in here? Observations have been made, judgments made, not sure anyone has been particularly rude, aggressive or threatening?

I would hasten to add, if anything fits into this category it was your original post.

Abused:

Again, I must say, by definition I don't think if anyone has abused you, and if you feel as such, then do report whomever you may feel has done so.

I would again say, if anyone's post would appear abusive, it was your own original post which was derogatory to a large demographic in a sweeping and generalised manner.

All the above may give some insight into why people have responded as negatively as they have?

Well articulated

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all!

Are you a woman in a mans body...welcome to the world of a single female!

Have faith in yourself & have fun x "

There are a fair amount of spanners on here and I've had to deal with a few absolute dingbats, but isn't that just life?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP if it's any consolation, I'm not sure why you've been subject to so much criticism. I thought you were just getting some irritations off your chest, nothing more sinister than that.

It's the forums

Sadly a place where opinions are only right if you are a regular in the forums

Bullies are everywhere

Any excuse to gang up on someone who is seeking some words of advice when they are getting shit from other fab users

Pass judgment and conclusion on a mass of single guys who dont reflect that conclusion. Then when a chunk of that mass speak up/out as they dont its bullying and the originator is a victim.

And don't the bullies get defensive

I've raised bullying on forums with admin

But I think it's accepted sadly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP if it's any consolation, I'm not sure why you've been subject to so much criticism. I thought you were just getting some irritations off your chest, nothing more sinister than that.

It's the forums

Sadly a place where opinions are only right if you are a regular in the forums

Bullies are everywhere

Any excuse to gang up on someone who is seeking some words of advice when they are getting shit from other fab users

Pass judgment and conclusion on a mass of single guys who dont reflect that conclusion. Then when a chunk of that mass speak up/out as they dont its bullying and the originator is a victim.

So being rude, abusive and making generalised statements and accusations about a group of people is ok? As long as you do it in the name of "venting"?

Even more so, demonising those who seek to defend against such acts is wrong?

I think that says more about you than anything else...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe I'm stupid, but I really really can't understand why so many people find the OP's original posting so offensive. I've just gone and reread it to try an understand what I'm missing. The first statement saying 'I hate single men' seemed fairly tongue in cheek as he immediately acknowledged that he was a single man too. It was fairly obvious to me that he was having a rant, which isn't a huge crime. Yes using the word 'hate' was probably an exaggeration and over generalisation, but not one to be taken particularly seriously, especially as he later acknowledged that he'd gone over the top due to having a bad day. Very few people are innocent from using the word 'hate' during times of frustration. The OP then went onto give some legitimate examples from his personal experience why he is currently feeling in a negative mood about a large portion of single single men. He talked about his experience of dogging areas and his experience of single men in clubs. He is entitled to have a grumble about his personal experience of some single men in certain circumstances. He did not say all single men behave like that. He also made some comments that men shouldn't send cock pics without them being asked for. If that is his opinion (and one I agree with), I don't see why he is wrong to express that. But again he never said all single men do that. His biggest crime was going a bit over the top in his rant - big deal! But nowhere did he say that he was talking about all single men. Well not the way I read it anyway. But maybe there is something I'm missing after reading his post again.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe I'm stupid, but I really really can't understand why so many people find the OP's original posting so offensive. I've just gone and reread it to try an understand what I'm missing. The first statement saying 'I hate single men' seemed fairly tongue in cheek as he immediately acknowledged that he was a single man too. It was fairly obvious to me that he was having a rant, which isn't a huge crime. Yes using the word 'hate' was probably an exaggeration and over generalisation, but not one to be taken particularly seriously, especially as he later acknowledged that he'd gone over the top due to having a bad day. Very few people are innocent from using the word 'hate' during times of frustration. The OP then went onto give some legitimate examples from his personal experience why he is currently feeling in a negative mood about a large portion of single single men. He talked about his experience of dogging areas and his experience of single men in clubs. He is entitled to have a grumble about his personal experience of some single men in certain circumstances. He did not say all single men behave like that. He also made some comments that men shouldn't send cock pics without them being asked for. If that is his opinion (and one I agree with), I don't see why he is wrong to express that. But again he never said all single men do that. His biggest crime was going a bit over the top in his rant - big deal! But nowhere did he say that he was talking about all single men. Well not the way I read it anyway. But maybe there is something I'm missing after reading his post again.

Mrs "

You could be right, but it's all subjective.

However, when you write something provocative in a public forum, don't be surprised at the reaction, and certainly don't be surprised at a reaction, whatever that reaction might be.

And when being critical, don't be surprised at defensiveness.

I for one actually believe it was rant, albeit a ill conceived one, and poorly communicated one.

I still refuse to accept that was the only motivating factor however.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I don't find it offensive in the slightest.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

It changes nothing for me, him, other single guys, females and or couples.

It will move to being not visible on page 1 and slowly move further back.

Not changing any behaviour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think I was bullying... I offered a different opinion. I apologise, unreservedly if my post was _iewed as bullying. I have both a different _iew and experience than the OP, this is based upon conversations with people I have met.

I seek to vilify no one; only express a different point of _iew.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mrs "

Because they choose to take words and twist them so they can hound and gang up on people

It's vile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't think I was bullying... I offered a different opinion. I apologise, unreservedly if my post was _iewed as bullying. I have both a different _iew and experience than the OP, this is based upon conversations with people I have met.

I seek to vilify no one; only express a different point of _iew."

You are quite famed for it sir

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP if it's any consolation, I'm not sure why you've been subject to so much criticism. I thought you were just getting some irritations off your chest, nothing more sinister than that.

It's the forums

Sadly a place where opinions are only right if you are a regular in the forums

Bullies are everywhere

Any excuse to gang up on someone who is seeking some words of advice when they are getting shit from other fab users

Pass judgment and conclusion on a mass of single guys who dont reflect that conclusion. Then when a chunk of that mass speak up/out as they dont its bullying and the originator is a victim.

And don't the bullies get defensive

I've raised bullying on forums with admin

But I think it's accepted sadly "

Your second post on this thread is belittling someone and asking why they bothered posting. On a recent thread Ruggers publicly told you not to be rude to other posters. I know there are other examples too

And yet you have repeatedly accused people on this thread of bullying? Or is it different when you are dishing it out to others?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP if it's any consolation, I'm not sure why you've been subject to so much criticism. I thought you were just getting some irritations off your chest, nothing more sinister than that.

It's the forums

Sadly a place where opinions are only right if you are a regular in the forums

Bullies are everywhere

Any excuse to gang up on someone who is seeking some words of advice when they are getting shit from other fab users

Pass judgment and conclusion on a mass of single guys who dont reflect that conclusion. Then when a chunk of that mass speak up/out as they dont its bullying and the originator is a victim.

And don't the bullies get defensive

I've raised bullying on forums with admin

But I think it's accepted sadly

And yet you have repeatedly accused people on this thread of bullying? Or is it different when you are dishing it out to others? "

It was only a matter of time before you woke up

People in box me to talk about you

Not favourably

I never bully

Like I said

Defensive

'Ruggers'?

No clique though either is there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I seek to vilify no one; only express a different point of _iew.

You are quite famed for it sir "

Famed for bullying?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP if it's any consolation, I'm not sure why you've been subject to so much criticism. I thought you were just getting some irritations off your chest, nothing more sinister than that.

It's the forums

Sadly a place where opinions are only right if you are a regular in the forums

Bullies are everywhere

Any excuse to gang up on someone who is seeking some words of advice when they are getting shit from other fab users

Pass judgment and conclusion on a mass of single guys who dont reflect that conclusion. Then when a chunk of that mass speak up/out as they dont its bullying and the originator is a victim.

And don't the bullies get defensive

I've raised bullying on forums with admin

But I think it's accepted sadly

And yet you have repeatedly accused people on this thread of bullying? Or is it different when you are dishing it out to others?

It was only a matter of time before you woke up

People in box me to talk about you

Not favourably

I never bully

Like I said

Defensive

'Ruggers'?

No clique though either is there

Do you honestly think I care if people inbox someone I don't know to bitch about me? Seriously?

But you are guilty if the very behaviour you are chastising others for. Again I refer back to your second post on this thread. How is asking someone why they bothered posting anything other than bullying? Or did I misunderstand what you meant?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP if it's any consolation, I'm not sure why you've been subject to so much criticism. I thought you were just getting some irritations off your chest, nothing more sinister than that.

It's the forums

Sadly a place where opinions are only right if you are a regular in the forums

Bullies are everywhere

Any excuse to gang up on someone who is seeking some words of advice when they are getting shit from other fab users

Pass judgment and conclusion on a mass of single guys who dont reflect that conclusion. Then when a chunk of that mass speak up/out as they dont its bullying and the originator is a victim.

And don't the bullies get defensive

I've raised bullying on forums with admin

But I think it's accepted sadly

And yet you have repeatedly accused people on this thread of bullying? Or is it different when you are dishing it out to others?

It was only a matter of time before you woke up

People in box me to talk about you

Not favourably

I never bully

Like I said

Defensive

'Ruggers'?

No clique though either is there

Do you honestly think I care if people inbox someone I don't know to bitch about me? Seriously?

I think I must be seriously misunderstanding something. I didn't think the OP was complaining about single men inboxing someone. He was complaining about unwanted cock shots, harassing people following a rejection, bad behaviour in clubs and dogging sites.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's my right to give feedback to someone who is clearly trying to have a go at anyone with no reason

Or adding nothing to a 'debate'

With comments belittling the thread

I am guilty here of not sticking to the subject in hand yet at the same time defending the OP

As he is being bullied

I have been on the receiving end too many times

Time to stamp it out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I apologise to anyone I have offended or bullied... I have been back through as many posts as I can and cannot see where I have; however I may be blind to it.

I type my opinion and haven't been banned in some time... I thought I was just being an "active" member of the forums...being active and being in a clique... not sure I know the difference. There are people I banter with, if that's cliquey, sorry that won't change, i enjoy that banter. I know that some people dislike me; I accept this, I am a grown up. I try to be positive on the forums; about the site; about other members; if someone I know obviously dislike me; I won't post in their threads, as I don't wish to cause upset.

The first I have learnt that I am famed for bullying, a little unsettling to be honest.

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By *inzi LTV/TS
over a year ago

The Garden of Eden in Beautiful North Wales

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all! "

Well said my friend, I am single, at the very least bi, maybe even gay (but I like my men/boys to be girls!) and I completely agree with everything you've said.

There are a lot of men both single and in relationships that do seem to think you/we owe them a fuck, at the very least a wank and when you politely decline they go crazy bonkers!

Swingers are people, gay men are people, tv's, cd's, transgender, transsexual, straight, couples and singles, they're all people. These people wouldn't behave or speak to you/us like that in public, so why do they do it here?

How do I deal with it?

The 'Block Button'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's my right to give feedback to someone who is clearly trying to have a go at anyone with no reason

Or adding nothing to a 'debate'

With comments belittling the thread

I am guilty here of not sticking to the subject in hand yet at the same time defending the OP

As he is being bullied

I have been on the receiving end too many times

Time to stamp it out "

Responding to the OP is not having a go at someone for no reason though is it?

You have alluded to similar in other threads that disagreeing is the sand as having a go. It's a forum. And it's what's known as discussion and debate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" The first I have learnt that I am famed for bullying, a little unsettling to be honest."

I wouldn't worry about it. It's noticeable that no one else has agreed with his comments about you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I apologise to anyone I have offended or bullied... I have been back through as many posts as I can and cannot see where I have; however I may be blind to it.

The first I have learnt that I am famed for bullying, a little unsettling to be honest."

I don't think you've been a bully. As always, Pauly, your comments have been measured and respectful in my opinion. However I have been shocked at the way other people on this forum have responded to the OP, and do not feel he said anything to deserve the backlash from forumites. This is just my unbiased opinion as I don't know anybody on this thread.

Mrs

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By *iSTARessWoman
over a year ago

London

"I agree. Men are dicks. But if you're meeting singles of any sex over the age of 35 don't expect them to be wonderful people with no character flaws, otherwise they probably wouldn't be single.."

So by that logic any single person over 35 is a lost cause?

Well that's me fucked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" The first I have learnt that I am famed for bullying, a little unsettling to be honest.

I wouldn't worry about it. It's noticeable that no one else has agreed with his comments about you

Don't worry about it mate it appears to some that disagreeing with someone or having an opinion that is different is classed as bullying,perhaps it's because some may not have the intelligence to defend there point in an articulate way they come out with the bullying card....keep having your say,as long as it's respectful and honest then keep going

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" The first I have learnt that I am famed for bullying, a little unsettling to be honest.

I wouldn't worry about it. It's noticeable that no one else has agreed with his comments about you

There's nothing wrong with having a different opinion and voicing it however the way in which these 'differences' are aired are the issue

Very much an I'm right you a wrong and choosing to belittle the other _iew

Jumping on other belittling posts

It becomes a witch hunt

This..... Is bullying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" The first I have learnt that I am famed for bullying, a little unsettling to be honest.

I wouldn't worry about it. It's noticeable that no one else has agreed with his comments about you

There's nothing wrong with having a different opinion and voicing it however the way in which these 'differences' are aired are the issue

Very much an I'm right you a wrong and choosing to belittle the other _iew

Jumping on other belittling posts

It becomes a witch hunt

This..... Is bullying "

Which is your opinion but not necessarily right

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

" The first I have learnt that I am famed for bullying, a little unsettling to be honest.

I wouldn't worry about it. It's noticeable that no one else has agreed with his comments about you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" The first I have learnt that I am famed for bullying, a little unsettling to be honest.

I wouldn't worry about it. It's noticeable that no one else has agreed with his comments about you

There's nothing wrong with having a different opinion and voicing it however the way in which these 'differences' are aired are the issue

Very much an I'm right you a wrong and choosing to belittle the other _iew

Jumping on other belittling posts

It becomes a witch hunt

This..... Is bullying

Which is your opinion but not necessarily right "

Indeed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" The first I have learnt that I am famed for bullying, a little unsettling to be honest.

I wouldn't worry about it. It's noticeable that no one else has agreed with his comments about you

There's nothing wrong with having a different opinion and voicing it however the way in which these 'differences' are aired are the issue

Very much an I'm right you a wrong and choosing to belittle the other _iew

Jumping on other belittling posts

It becomes a witch hunt

This..... Is bullying

Which is your opinion but not necessarily right

Indeed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" The first I have learnt that I am famed for bullying, a little unsettling to be honest.

I wouldn't worry about it. It's noticeable that no one else has agreed with his comments about you

There's nothing wrong with having a different opinion and voicing it however the way in which these 'differences' are aired are the issue

Very much an I'm right you a wrong and choosing to belittle the other _iew

Jumping on other belittling posts

It becomes a witch hunt

This..... Is bullying

Which is your opinion but not necessarily right

Indeed

But aren't you belittling me by "calling me out"? I am sorry that you feel I belittle people. This is the first I have heard of it... but vilifying me on the forums as singling me out... isn't that bullying?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Firstly OP I am not getting at you.

1. Expecting a section of fab that DOES NOT READ profiles to read this thread = naive

3. The majority of guys on this site are quite cool actually (at least from what my meets tell me, but perhaps that's because the people I meet in general tend to message first)

Surely if someone is writing a post depicting themselves as perfect and 'the opposition' as not, that says more about the than those they criticise.

As for bi/gay guys messaging straights, I get at least 5 messages a night off straights harassing me! Its horses for courses on this site.

People would be better suited looking after themselves, proving to those they are seeing they are genuine as opposed to criticising and finding fault in others.

I've been off and on this site for two years, never really frequented the forums, but there seem to be a lot of judgmental people on a site that the vast majority of a vanilla population would itself judge.

Just live and let live

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" The first I have learnt that I am famed for bullying, a little unsettling to be honest.

I wouldn't worry about it. It's noticeable that no one else has agreed with his comments about you

There's nothing wrong with having a different opinion and voicing it however the way in which these 'differences' are aired are the issue

Very much an I'm right you a wrong and choosing to belittle the other _iew

Jumping on other belittling posts

It becomes a witch hunt

This..... Is bullying

Which is your opinion but not necessarily right

Indeed

Hopefully it's getting you to think before you write something that could offend

I've been bullied as a child

Many times in work

And here

I will not bully

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm really confused. What is it the OP said or did that so many people find so offensive? Is it his original posting, or is it something that has been said since?

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" The first I have learnt that I am famed for bullying, a little unsettling to be honest.

I wouldn't worry about it. It's noticeable that no one else has agreed with his comments about you

There's nothing wrong with having a different opinion and voicing it however the way in which these 'differences' are aired are the issue

Very much an I'm right you a wrong and choosing to belittle the other _iew

Jumping on other belittling posts

It becomes a witch hunt

This..... Is bullying

Which is your opinion but not necessarily right

Indeed

Hopefully it's getting you to think before you write something that could offend

I've been bullied as a child

Many times in work

And here

I will not bully "

You are baiting... I am not a bully. I have read your posts. All of them. I am okay with what I do on the forums. You see someone you dislike and you attempt to assassinate their character... if you have succeeded well done. If not.. ho hum.

But this is where I end with you chap. You post as you wish, I will do the same. Good luck and happy swinging.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people take this shit way too seriously!

Chill everyone and have a lovely evening

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" The first I have learnt that I am famed for bullying, a little unsettling to be honest.

I wouldn't worry about it. It's noticeable that no one else has agreed with his comments about you

There's nothing wrong with having a different opinion and voicing it however the way in which these 'differences' are aired are the issue

Very much an I'm right you a wrong and choosing to belittle the other _iew

Jumping on other belittling posts

It becomes a witch hunt

This..... Is bullying

Which is your opinion but not necessarily right

Indeed

Hopefully it's getting you to think before you write something that could offend

I've been bullied as a child

Many times in work

And here

I will not bully

But this is where I end with you chap. You post as you wish, I will do the same. Good luck and happy swinging. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" The first I have learnt that I am famed for bullying, a little unsettling to be honest.

I wouldn't worry about it. It's noticeable that no one else has agreed with his comments about you

Agreed.

Too many people bandy the word "bullying" whilst clearly demonstrating they have not a clue what that word actually means and entails. Which by the way, for point of reference I copied and pasted a definition of such above.

It's clear that when unable to handle and/or argue against a differing of opinion the word "bullying" is thrown about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" The first I have learnt that I am famed for bullying, a little unsettling to be honest.

I wouldn't worry about it. It's noticeable that no one else has agreed with his comments about you

Agreed.

It's clear that when unable to handle and/or argue against a differing of opinion the word "bullying" is thrown about.

The term bullying has many meanings

So much more than you have taken time to publish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, this went South.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" The first I have learnt that I am famed for bullying, a little unsettling to be honest.

I wouldn't worry about it. It's noticeable that no one else has agreed with his comments about you

Agreed.

It's clear that when unable to handle and/or argue against a differing of opinion the word "bullying" is thrown about.

Totally agree,let's be clear bullying or being bullied is not acceptable and never should be however there seems to be a nampy pampy culture that when some are under pressure or people don't agree with them and argue there flaws in there argument it becomes bullying

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

If people's lives have been roughly handled by bullying I am truly sorry it happened. They are often cruelly blighted by it and never recover.

It is thrown around here too frequently and often inappropriately and insulting to the people I mention above

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"I fucking hate the single man, which is wierd... I am one.

What is wrong with the vast majority of you? Your behavior is not only ruining this lifestyle for yourselves, it's ruining it for everyone.

Dogging sites are overrun, every lay by I park in overnight is overrun so badly I cant park my truck. The minute a couple turn up, they are instantly swamped by 10 blokes.

And last but not least we have the online world.. Where every single man is so cock sure he's gods gift that between them all... They've given everyone at least one bad experience.

Whatever happened to treating people the way you like to be treated?

Listen to people! Read their profiles. Show some Respect and grow up.

Before anyone accuses me of bitterness or jealousy.. I'm good. I know some nice couples and women. It's not a twisted ploy to get people to live me. I'm venting off is all!

Actually most single men aren;t the arseholes you claim them to be. And I doubt few couples or single females will fall for your white knighting

white knighting where do you get that from he's talking about personal experiences all that I can relate to having seen the exact behaviour he's talking about myself in clubs ,

his words about site life are in general true to .

if anyone's white knighting you are by trying to portend the swinging scene is great and full of the best people in the world when in fact in my experience that is so far from the truth as to be laughable /

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"I'm really confused. What is it the OP said or did that so many people find so offensive? Is it his original posting, or is it something that has been said since?

Mrs"

what he did was to not tow the line you know the line that's says the swinging world is perfect and all in it are perfect .

when in fact the truth is far from great and nice but god forgive anyone pointing that fact out especially a man . we all know if a woman wrote this post a lot of those posting negative stuff towards the OP would post something totally different if it was a woman .

just use the little green arrow next to peoples names if you want to see hypocrisy in action .

god I love that little green arrow the best tool on the site for seeing the true face of those one has to deal with when on here .

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"I'm really confused. What is it the OP said or did that so many people find so offensive? Is it his original posting, or is it something that has been said since?

Mrs

what he did was to not tow the line you know the line that's says the swinging world is perfect and all in it are perfect .

just use the little green arrow next to peoples names if you want to see hypocrisy in action .

god I love that little green arrow the best tool on the site for seeing the true face of those one has to deal with when on here . "

Some people say exactly what they think and dont play up to the forum audience.