FabSwingers.com forum: No effort

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I often read criticism aimed at men on here for having genetic profiles and sending copy and pasted messages. Fair enough, it is usually justified, but come on ladies, some of your profiles and attempts at conversation are appalling, you need to try harder to stand out from the crowd .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I often read criticism aimed at men on here for having genetic profiles and sending copy and pasted messages. Fair enough, it is usually justified, but come on ladies, some of your profiles and attempts at conversation are appalling, you need to try harder to stand out from the crowd ."

I should have said 'generic'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here we go!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Here we go!"

Are you a 'white knight'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Women don't really need to stand out from the crowd. Even women with no pictures on her profile will get quite a few messages a day. There are far more men than women on this site, so women don't really need to make that much effort, be it fair or not OP.

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By *mallteaserWoman
over a year ago

Central

"Women don't really need to stand out from the crowd. Even women with no pictures on her profile will get quite a few messages a day. There are far more men than women on this site, so women don't really need to make that much effort, be it fair or not OP. "

Agreed x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort."

I do make the effort thank you. You may disagree, but women seem to get along fine without having full profiles, and manage to meet regularly, if they choose to do so.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

I do make the effort thank you. You may disagree, but women seem to get along fine without having full profiles, and manage to meet regularly, if they choose to do so. "

Perhaps this wasn't aimed at you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In my experience woman do tend to be a bit sharp at times but that is probably because they've had a hundred messages saying let's fuck or I want to so and so you so op I suggest you make your messages stand out and the ladies may Derek u worthy of a decent reply

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who

haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

I do make the effort thank you. You may disagree, but women seem to get along fine without having full profiles, and manage to meet regularly, if they choose to do so.

Perhaps this wasn't aimed at you

Perhaps say them instead of you then... I understand your frustration of the demands that some women make when they have little to offer in the form of their own profile, but it really is just the nature of the site. Like it or not, women really do get quite a wide range of choices, when it comes to meeting.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"In my experience woman do tend to be a bit sharp at times but that is probably because they've had a hundred messages saying let's fuck or I want to so and so you so op I suggest you make your messages stand out and the ladies may Derek u worthy of a decent reply"

Who is Derek, tbh , I do ok on here, i copy and paste my initial messages and get a fairly decent reply rate

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By *emplarWarriorMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

I think you should make a little bit of an effort with a profile, but I don't get why people are so against cut and pasted messages.

I have used them in the past, its a decent message though, not a one liner. It breaks the ice, says Hi, tells people a little about myself and my interests and what Im looking for. If the ladys/cpls profile is of any interest then I may include something from there profile to kick off a convo but apart from that how many different ways can you write about yourself?

Remembering that 50% of the messages you send wont be opened and 48% of the ones that are opened wont be replied to anyway

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who

haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

I do make the effort thank you. You may disagree, but women seem to get along fine without having full profiles, and manage to meet regularly, if they choose to do so.

Perhaps this wasn't aimed at you

I am far from frustrated, I am simply making an observation. If you discount the number of chancers and fakes, the number of men who are suitable for each female on here becomes less and less

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

I do make the effort thank you. You may disagree, but women seem to get along fine without having full profiles, and manage to meet regularly, if they choose to do so. "

Exactly this

I've already had to delete five messages already this morning as they hadn't read my profile so people only need to take notice of the first line of they did then they'd realise there's no point in messaging.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think you should make a little bit of an effort with a profile, but I don't get why people are so against cut and pasted messages.

Remembering that 50% of the messages you send wont be opened and 48% of the ones that are opened wont be replied to anyway

Exactly, copy and paste is the way forward,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think you should make a little bit of an effort with a profile, but I don't get why people are so against cut and pasted messages.

Remembering that 50% of the messages you send wont be opened and 48% of the ones that are opened wont be replied to anyway

I personally don't take offense to a copy and paste message as an introduction piece. It's the subsequent messages back and forth that count anyway, as you get to know each other a little more. I do understand that men have a mountain to climb in regards to unread, or messages that receive no reply, and it's the quickest option for them. I wouldn't discard a message if it was copy and pasted, if I found the message interesting, and I wanted to know more

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

I do make the effort thank you. You may disagree, but women seem to get along fine without having full profiles, and manage to meet regularly, if they choose to do so.

Exactly this

What is your point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort."

Some you think we should put more effort into our profiles that you've just said that men don't read?

Wow. Genius.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

Some you think we should put more effort into our profiles that you've just said that men don't read?

Wow. Genius.

Your completely missing the point, if women make no effort why would you expect any self respecting man to make an effort to message them , they need to try harder

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

Some you think we should put more effort into our profiles that you've just said that men don't read?

Wow. Genius.

Your completely missing the point, if women make no effort why would you expect any self respecting man to make an effort to message them , they need to try harder "

Women expect it, because men do it. You may want them to try harder. But they don't need to in order to get meets.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

Some you think we should put more effort into our profiles that you've just said that men don't read?

Wow. Genius.

Your completely missing the point, if women make no effort why would you expect any self respecting man to make an effort to message them , they need to try harder

Women expect it, because men do it. You may want them to try harder. But they don't need to in order to get meets. "

it depends if they are happy with the men they meet, you only have to read the majority of the ranting profiles and status updates to get the impression they are not . If they made more of an effort maybe they would meet the people they wanted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

Some you think we should put more effort into our profiles that you've just said that men don't read?

Wow. Genius.

Your completely missing the point, if women make no effort why would you expect any self respecting man to make an effort to message them , they need to try harder "

Most men don't read them, regardless of effort.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

Some you think we should put more effort into our profiles that you've just said that men don't read?

Wow. Genius.

Your completely missing the point, if women make no effort why would you expect any self respecting man to make an effort to message them , they need to try harder

Most men don't read them, regardless of effort.

Most men? Not all then? Women who get 100s of messages irrespective of their profile are missing the point, surely quality outweighs quantity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your profile isn't exactly exciting is it.

Only 1 picture, very few details, it would not appeal to me OP.

Your attempts at conversation are appalling too judging by this thread.

If you don't like a woman's profile or how they are chatting to you, move on to the next one, easy isn't it?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Your profile isn't exactly exciting is it.

Only 1 picture, very few details, it would not appeal to me OP.

Your attempts at conversation are appalling too judging by this thread.

If you don't like a woman's profile or how they are chatting to you, move on to the next one, easy isn't it?"

Firstly , you cannot criticism individuals profiles on here, secondly , why are you on the defensive?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

Some you think we should put more effort into our profiles that you've just said that men don't read?

Wow. Genius.

Your completely missing the point, if women make no effort why would you expect any self respecting man to make an effort to message them , they need to try harder

Most men don't read them, regardless of effort.

Most men? Not all then? Women who get 100s of messages irrespective of their profile are missing the point, surely quality outweighs quantity "

Some of us like to use filters and do the hunting ourselves.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

Some you think we should put more effort into our profiles that you've just said that men don't read?

Wow. Genius.

Your completely missing the point, if women make no effort why would you expect any self respecting man to make an effort to message them , they need to try harder

Most men don't read them, regardless of effort.

Most men? Not all then? Women who get 100s of messages irrespective of their profile are missing the point, surely quality outweighs quantity

Some of us like to use filters and do the hunting ourselves. "

And how do you find that??

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By *emplarWarriorMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

Some you think we should put more effort into our profiles that you've just said that men don't read?

Wow. Genius.

Your completely missing the point, if women make no effort why would you expect any self respecting man to make an effort to message them , they need to try harder

Most men don't read them, regardless of effort.

Most men? Not all then? Women who get 100s of messages irrespective of their profile are missing the point, surely quality outweighs quantity

Some of us like to use filters and do the hunting ourselves. "

"There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter"

Ernest Hemingway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find the difference is (for me anyway) men use they're profile to attract women and get them to reply/message. I use my profile to try and DISCOURAGE most of the people on fab from messaging me! It kinda works..... the people that don't read wouldn't read it if it was good or not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

Some you think we should put more effort into our profiles that you've just said that men don't read?

Wow. Genius.

Your completely missing the point, if women make no effort why would you expect any self respecting man to make an effort to message them , they need to try harder

Women expect it, because men do it. You may want them to try harder. But they don't need to in order to get meets.

But to be fair, men mass message women in the hopes of getting a reply off someone. I'm extremely doubtful that they read through all the profiles anyway. Mine is not long like my old profile, because I knew that some men may not read it all. Even in my shortened version, I endlessly get asked if I have kik or Skype, when I've blatantly stated that I'm not willing to do these. A neon sign that my profile has not been read.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your profile isn't exactly exciting is it.

Only 1 picture, very few details, it would not appeal to me OP.

Your attempts at conversation are appalling too judging by this thread.

If you don't like a woman's profile or how they are chatting to you, move on to the next one, easy isn't it?

Firstly , you cannot criticism individuals profiles on here, secondly , why are you on the defensive? "

Probably because you seem so angry about it and people generally don't like people telling them they need to do things when they don't.... just sayin

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I find the difference is (for me anyway) men use they're profile to attract women and get them to reply/message. I use my profile to try and DISCOURAGE most of the people on fab from messaging me! It kinda works..... the people that don't read wouldn't read it if it was good or not."

Why don't you just block all men, and do the messaging

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Your profile isn't exactly exciting is it.

Only 1 picture, very few details, it would not appeal to me OP.

Your attempts at conversation are appalling too judging by this thread.

If you don't like a woman's profile or how they are chatting to you, move on to the next one, easy isn't it?

Firstly , you cannot criticism individuals profiles on here, secondly , why are you on the defensive?

Probably because you seem so angry about it and people generally don't like people telling them they need to do things when they don't.... just sayin"

Angry? Can you explain where I have been angry?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why don't you just block all men, and do the messaging

Because I like having conversations away from the forum. ... I quite often get messages on a subject I've discussed on here, also... because I don't want to and I don't have to so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It doesn't really matter how eloquent the messages to men are or how thought out, witty, or direct your profile. Men are more interested in the photos on the profile.

Well most men are, not all.....some men on here are attracted to the size of the IQ rather than the size of the breasts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your profile isn't exactly exciting is it.

Only 1 picture, very few details, it would not appeal to me OP.

Your attempts at conversation are appalling too judging by this thread.

If you don't like a woman's profile or how they are chatting to you, move on to the next one, easy isn't it?

Firstly , you cannot criticism individuals profiles on here, secondly , why are you on the defensive?

Probably because you seem so angry about it and people generally don't like people telling them they need to do things when they don't.... just sayin

Angry? Can you explain where I have been angry? "

You come across as an angry person in your writing

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By *aveandkate35Couple
over a year ago

telford

It's simple when it it comes to women.... Those that want to put in the effort do, and will receive hundreds of messages, those that don't... will receive hundreds of messages.

It's their profile let them do as they please. Unlike men though we don't get endless threads about how they don't get meets or messages - for obvious reasons! So I care a lot less.

To put it into context when Kate setup her single profile, from the time she created her account to filling in profile information (so no pics, no text) she had 65 messages. It says more about the men than the women.

If someone told me I didn't have to make the effort to go to work today as id get paid anyway... Well, I think I'd probably not - same thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

I do make the effort thank you. You may disagree, but women seem to get along fine without having full profiles, and manage to meet regularly, if they choose to do so.

Exactly this

What is your point

My point is I'm not interested in people who are not local to me first line of profile clearly states that but no about 90%+ of messages are from people who can't even read the first line.

Anyway it's nothing to do with you how people word their profile. If you're as successful as you say you are why are you complaining ?

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By *ilmiss75Woman
over a year ago

Thornton

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort."

Why should I make more effort if a guy hasn't read my profile and send me a unsuitable message?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't know if couples are included in this observation, but I would say we do not need to make more effort than we do. The reason being is because we get what we want from the swing scene - we play about once a month either at a party or by arranging a private meet with one of our male friends. We've never found it difficult to find quality men on Fab. If things dry up we'll make an effort I guess.

With regards to 'cut and paste' messages, we have met in total 7 men privately, and all of them wrote us a personalised message. Sadly we've had to reject other quality men who have taken the time to write us a nice message, but we cannot play more than we do and we'd rather see men we've met before.

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

I say it often.. the same basic rules apply to all genders and demographics on here, after all we're all trying to inform and attract others.

Fact is men vastly out number other groups on here.. There are threads started by couples and ladies bemoaning the number of unsuitable messages... No quality men, can't find a unicorn etc..it's often said on these threads search for what you seek yourself.. if folk do it's then that a good profile makes the difference.. folk often refer to the profile before reading.g the message.

Effort in rewards out, guys can and do say no as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I also think OP, that if you are going to post something provocative like this on the forum, then your profile needs to be shit hot! Seriously A*... I've looked, and guess what? It's generic. I suggest you upgrade your profile, before telling women that they need to make an effort with theirs.... Just saying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thanks for the tip, OP.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk

OK from our point of _iew you are coming across as angry.

Your sarcastic remark about the "white knight" and just the general demand for answers from people who have posted in response to your questions seems a bit aggressive.

Anyway it's an open forum. Enjoy.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I think it's true, some women (and couples) "do" need to make a bit more effort. They need to use filters, the block button, be more friendly, more understanding but so do some men. This is all a bit of fun...isnt it?

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By *emplarWarriorMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

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By *emplarWarriorMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

I think your profile is most probably the most honest profile on fab

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By *anky_PankyWoman
over a year ago

Filthy Fuckeryville

This did seem to descend into rantiness quite early..... The guy has a point, but so do the ladies arguing.

A lot of men don't read profiles and a lot of women don't read messages. As bad as each other it seems - it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.

That's honesty - and honesty from a girl who had to turn her profile off cause men weren't reading that I wasn't currently playing for extremely valid reasons..... Was only ever men who messaged still with FAF messages, despite me getting messages off ladies too..... Make what you will of that.

Have a lovely day peeps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I see a profile that's 'zero effort' then I just pass it by, I don't make a fuss over it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

I'm the same. I've not put one negative status up in regards to the men on the site. I'm lucky to have spoken to some lovely people, and am happy with who my profile attracts. I see no need to tweak my profile as it stands

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I also think OP, that if you are going to post something provocative like this on the forum, then your profile needs to be shit hot! Seriously A*... I've looked, and guess what? It's generic. I suggest you upgrade your profile, before telling women that they need to make an effort with theirs.... Just saying. "

You can't criticise individuals profiles on here, and why are you upset, have I hit a nerve, just saying

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can't criticise individuals profiles on here, and why are you upset, have I hit a nerve, just saying "

Goodness! You don't like people disagreeing with you do you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can't criticise individuals profiles on here, and why are you upset, have I hit a nerve, just saying "

No nerve hit haha. I just think that you really need to consider your own profile before criticising women's profiles in general. It was an observation

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You can't criticise individuals profiles on here, and why are you upset, have I hit a nerve, just saying

Goodness! You don't like people disagreeing with you do you!"

Goodness, neither do you, just saying

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By *emplarWarriorMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

There two types of profiles on here, the hunters (which are generally the men) and the foxes (which are generally the woman)

Dont turn up at the hunt without the right equipment and wonder why you didnt catch the fox

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can't criticise individuals profiles on here, and why are you upset, have I hit a nerve, just saying

Goodness! You don't like people disagreeing with you do you!

Goodness, neither do you, just saying "

I'm havnt agreed or disagreed.. I'm just pointing out why, and that people can do as they please with thier profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

I do make the effort thank you. You may disagree, but women seem to get along fine without having full profiles, and manage to meet regularly, if they choose to do so.

Exactly this

It's annoying when men don't read the profile. One yesterday said it was too long so why bother. He couldn't understand why we weren't then interested in him!

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By *ilmiss75Woman
over a year ago

Thornton

You can't criticise individuals profiles on here, and why are you upset, have I hit a nerve, just saying "

You were the first person to 'criticise' people's profile in your opening post

Maybe take your own advice?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You can't criticise individuals profiles on here, and why are you upset, have I hit a nerve, just saying

No nerve hit haha. I just think that you really need to consider your own profile before criticising women's profiles in general. It was an observation

Fair comment, my observation wasn't based on an any particular individuals profile, more of an 'over_iew' , it is only my personal opinion. If people do get offended (not necessarily yourself) then they have to ask themselves why .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You can't criticise individuals profiles on here, and why are you upset, have I hit a nerve, just saying

You were the first person to 'criticise' people's profile in your opening post

Maybe take your own advice?"

I don't need to, but thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here we go!

Are you a 'white knight'

Yes, there's a lot of us.

You do have a good point, I've read one profile that says

"Ask....."

So I did. I didn't get a reply. Haha.

But as you say, some don't make an effort. Not all. So don't assume there are some men/woman who don't care or make an effort. And it's good your looking for woman who make an effort, my advice - keep looking.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You can't criticise individuals profiles on here, and why are you upset, have I hit a nerve, just saying

Goodness! You don't like people disagreeing with you do you!

Goodness, neither do you, just saying

I'm havnt agreed or disagreed.. I'm just pointing out why, and that people can do as they please with thier profile."

O dear, not another, 'it's their choice' reply, the most generic and pointless response you find on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dont turn up at the hunt without the right equipment and wonder why you didnt catch the fox"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can't criticise individuals profiles on here, and why are you upset, have I hit a nerve, just saying

No nerve hit haha. I just think that you really need to consider your own profile before criticising women's profiles in general. It was an observation

I know it wasn't. You wasn't targeting any individuals profiles. Apologies for mentioning yours. It genuinely was just an observation, considering your message. No harm meant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can't criticise individuals profiles on here, and why are you upset, have I hit a nerve, just saying

No nerve hit haha. I just think that you really need to consider your own profile before criticising women's profiles in general. It was an observation

Who's offended???

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Here we go!

Are you a 'white knight'

Yes, there's a lot of us.

You do have a good point, I've read one profile that says

"Ask....."

So I did. I didn't get a reply. Haha.

I didn't assume , I know that their are people who make an effort, just not many, perhaps they are just plain lazy

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You can't criticise individuals profiles on here, and why are you upset, have I hit a nerve, just saying

No nerve hit haha. I just think that you really need to consider your own profile before criticising women's profiles in general. It was an observation

Who's offended???"

You tell me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can't criticise individuals profiles on here, and why are you upset, have I hit a nerve, just saying

Goodness! You don't like people disagreeing with you do you!

Goodness, neither do you, just saying

I'm havnt agreed or disagreed.. I'm just pointing out why, and that people can do as they please with thier profile.

O dear, not another, 'it's their choice' reply, the most generic and pointless response you find on here "

Maybe because it's correct?!!

*shock horror*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can't criticise individuals profiles on here, and why are you upset, have I hit a nerve, just saying

No nerve hit haha. I just think that you really need to consider your own profile before criticising women's profiles in general. It was an observation

Who's offended???

You tell me "

I don't know... that's why I was asking you... hence the question marks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here we go!

Are you a 'white knight'

Yes, there's a lot of us.

You do have a good point, I've read one profile that says

"Ask....."

So I did. I didn't get a reply. Haha.

I didn't assume , I know that their are people who make an effort, just not many, perhaps they are just plain lazy

They probably are. Also to lazy to take your 'indirect' advice with this post.

People won't change the way they act or present themselves. Don't try. Let them live the way they like.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You can't criticise individuals profiles on here, and why are you upset, have I hit a nerve, just saying

Goodness! You don't like people disagreeing with you do you!

Goodness, neither do you, just saying

I'm havnt agreed or disagreed.. I'm just pointing out why, and that people can do as they please with thier profile.

O dear, not another, 'it's their choice' reply, the most generic and pointless response you find on here

Maybe because it's correct?!!

*shock horror*"

But it's a lazy and pointless response, you could apply it to every thread in here , correct or not .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying "

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Here we go!

Are you a 'white knight'

Yes, there's a lot of us.

You do have a good point, I've read one profile that says

"Ask....."

So I did. I didn't get a reply. Haha.

I didn't assume , I know that their are people who make an effort, just not many, perhaps they are just plain lazy

They probably are. Also to lazy to take your 'indirect' advice with this post.

People won't change the way they act or present themselves. Don't try. Let them live the way they like.

Perhaps they should change,

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

Generally it's men asking for advice. It's not women or couples setting up threads to bash men. So the criticism has usually been asked for.

I'm sure when individual women and couples put up similar, ' I can't get a meet' messages or 'what is wrong with my profile' messages they will get similar advice.

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

There is a small percentage of people I'd want to play with on here.

Sex for sexes sake doesn't do it for either of us.

You can easily pick up on the people with, shall we say, open minds by the language they use and there is not that many.

So, to me it's what is put in, by either sex.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

Ha ha yes, no equality here!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can't criticise individuals profiles on here, and why are you upset, have I hit a nerve, just saying

Goodness! You don't like people disagreeing with you do you!

Goodness, neither do you, just saying

I'm havnt agreed or disagreed.. I'm just pointing out why, and that people can do as they please with thier profile.

O dear, not another, 'it's their choice' reply, the most generic and pointless response you find on here

Maybe because it's correct?!!

*shock horror*

But it's a lazy and pointless response, you could apply it to every thread in here , correct or not . "

Ok, I think you're logic is a bit off but hey! Like I said everyone can do and say what they please within the rules... that's the beauty of this site

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As others have said, a woman could have a blank profile with not meeting written on it but still get messages, that's how it is on here. Of all the profile advice/what am I doing wrong/can't get a meet threads on here, how many are posted by women? Very few. Women don't generally need to make an effort.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A women could write hi and have no pics she would still get more messages a day that a single male will in a year! Its not they that need to stand out its you my freind and complaining about your target audience is not a good way to start

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??"

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"my advice - keep looking.

I didn't assume , I know that their are people who make an effort, just not many, perhaps they are just plain lazy

They probably are. Also to lazy to take your 'indirect' advice with this post.

People won't change the way they act or present themselves. Don't try. Let them live the way they like.

Perhaps they should change,

You know. Maybe they should.

That's what I thought when I was chatting to that that super hot bikini model that has lips like a ripe pomegranate I was speaking to, I just wished her one word messages didn't send me to sleep. But they did. I like personality. I like to talk, so I told her no, we're not suited.

So if you see a somebody who doesn't appeal. Move on. Or go crazy and try and make them change.

You don't like lazy people do you? People are free to do what they want.

Like you can.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

Ha ha yes, no equality here!! "

I actually agree with you on that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

That's becuase your fit. And they want to see if you'll have sex with them. Men are shallow you know.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

Maybe, or maybe men will fuck anything on here, just saying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

That's becuase your fit. And they want to see if you'll have sex with them. Men are shallow you know.

Not my first rodeo on here haha. I'm aware

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

Maybe, or maybe men will fuck anything on here, just saying

Some men will. Some men won't

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

Some you think we should put more effort into our profiles that you've just said that men don't read?

Wow. Genius.

Your completely missing the point, if women make no effort why would you expect any self respecting man to make an effort to message them , they need to try harder "
However , we do not see many ladies on here complaining about a lack of potential meets .

Men need to have both a good profile and well written messages as the are operating in an exceptionally competitive market place.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"my advice - keep looking.

I didn't assume , I know that their are people who make an effort, just not many, perhaps they are just plain lazy

They probably are. Also to lazy to take your 'indirect' advice with this post.

People won't change the way they act or present themselves. Don't try. Let them live the way they like.

Perhaps they should change,

You know. Maybe they should.

So if you see a somebody who doesn't appeal. Move on. Or go crazy and try and make them change.

You don't like lazy people do you? People are free to do what they want.

Like you can.

Indeed I can, but I am happy on here, if others feel the same, crack on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

Maybe, or maybe men will fuck anything on here, just saying

Seriously, I'm not sure if you think you are going to offend me with that comment, I'm not to everyone's taste, and I'm comfortable with that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

Maybe, or maybe men will fuck anything on here, just saying

Thats a real nob thing to say to a women your not doing yourself any favours

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

wish people would leave people alone to do what they want with their profiles - if it doesnt suit ya just ignore

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

Maybe, or maybe men will fuck anything on here, just saying

Thats a real nob thing to say to a women your not doing yourself any favours "

Definitely a 'white knight'

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

A lot of women want more from a meet than a guy, it's in their interest to have a great profile to attract guys that they can develop further with.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"wish people would leave people alone to do what they want with their profiles - if it doesnt suit ya just ignore "

Same applies to forum threads

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

Piss poor attitudes and lack of effort in conversation aren't gender specific qualities

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"wish people would leave people alone to do what they want with their profiles - if it doesnt suit ya just ignore

Same applies to forum threads

touche

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"my advice - keep looking.

I didn't assume , I know that their are people who make an effort, just not many, perhaps they are just plain lazy

They probably are. Also to lazy to take your 'indirect' advice with this post.

People won't change the way they act or present themselves. Don't try. Let them live the way they like.

Perhaps they should change,

You know. Maybe they should.

So if you see a somebody who doesn't appeal. Move on. Or go crazy and try and make them change.

You don't like lazy people do you? People are free to do what they want.

Like you can.

Indeed I can, but I am happy on here, if others feel the same, crack on"

So happy you've started a ranty thread about women not making an effort and then got defensive, personal and a bit nasty..... interesting...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"my advice - keep looking.

I didn't assume , I know that their are people who make an effort, just not many, perhaps they are just plain lazy

They probably are. Also to lazy to take your 'indirect' advice with this post.

People won't change the way they act or present themselves. Don't try. Let them live the way they like.

Perhaps they should change,

You know. Maybe they should.

So if you see a somebody who doesn't appeal. Move on. Or go crazy and try and make them change.

You don't like lazy people do you? People are free to do what they want.

Like you can.

Indeed I can, but I am happy on here, if others feel the same, crack on

So happy you've started a ranty thread about women not making an effort and then got defensive, personal and a bit nasty..... interesting...

And your commenting on it

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Piss poor attitudes and lack of effort in conversation aren't gender specific qualities "

True,but I don't tend to talk to many men on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You got a thing against white knights now aswell? Lazy people?

Are you looking for an argument?

You had a good point to start, now your just edging on argumentative.

We can't change your _iew as much as you can't change lazy profiles.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You got a thing against white knights now aswell? Lazy people?

Are you looking for an argument?

You had a good point to start, now your just edging on argumentative.

We can't change your _iew as much as you can't change lazy profiles.

What is your point,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

Maybe, or maybe men will fuck anything on here, just saying

Thats a real nob thing to say to a women your not doing yourself any favours

Definitely a 'white knight' "

If you mean im speaking up to get a meet... No the womens 200miles away from us and we have enough play partners right now

So not a "white knight" as you call it just dont see why people feel the need to hide their own insecurities by trying to belittle others its very childish

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

Maybe, or maybe men will fuck anything on here, just saying

Thats a real nob thing to say to a women your not doing yourself any favours

Definitely a 'white knight'

If you mean im speaking up to get a meet... No the womens 200miles away from us and we have enough play partners right now

So not a "white knight" as you call it just dont see why people feel the need to hide their own insecurities by trying to belittle others its very childish "

Do you have a sense of humour, do you know what these mean

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's put it in a manner you might grasp the concept of OP.

It's a supply and demand market.

Single males market place is Greenland and they are selling Snow. The ice is going to have to be pretty special for it Get sold.

Single females market place is the Sahara and they are selling Snow. The snow could be yellow, and you can still be sure somebody is going to buy it.

It comes down to the product that sells itself and is most in demand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"my advice - keep looking.

I didn't assume , I know that their are people who make an effort, just not many, perhaps they are just plain lazy

They probably are. Also to lazy to take your 'indirect' advice with this post.

People won't change the way they act or present themselves. Don't try. Let them live the way they like.

Perhaps they should change,

You know. Maybe they should.

So if you see a somebody who doesn't appeal. Move on. Or go crazy and try and make them change.

You don't like lazy people do you? People are free to do what they want.

Like you can.

Indeed I can, but I am happy on here, if others feel the same, crack on

So happy you've started a ranty thread about women not making an effort and then got defensive, personal and a bit nasty..... interesting...

And your commenting on it

"
haha! Darling I really have nothing better to do today which is heaven quite frankly!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"my advice - keep looking.

I didn't assume , I know that their are people who make an effort, just not many, perhaps they are just plain lazy

They probably are. Also to lazy to take your 'indirect' advice with this post.

People won't change the way they act or present themselves. Don't try. Let them live the way they like.

Perhaps they should change,

You know. Maybe they should.

So if you see a somebody who doesn't appeal. Move on. Or go crazy and try and make them change.

You don't like lazy people do you? People are free to do what they want.

Like you can.

Indeed I can, but I am happy on here, if others feel the same, crack on

So happy you've started a ranty thread about women not making an effort and then got defensive, personal and a bit nasty..... interesting...

And your commenting on it

haha! Darling I really have nothing better to do today which is heaven quite frankly!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

Maybe, or maybe men will fuck anything on here, just saying

Thats a real nob thing to say to a women your not doing yourself any favours

Definitely a 'white knight'

If you mean im speaking up to get a meet... No the womens 200miles away from us and we have enough play partners right now

So not a "white knight" as you call it just dont see why people feel the need to hide their own insecurities by trying to belittle others its very childish

Do you have a sense of humour, do you know what these mean

Yes evidently they mean you can say what you want and disguise it as a joke everyone else in here saw it as a thinly veiled insult if your wanting to meet women getting aggressive with everyone is not the way to do it

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Let's put it in a manner you might grasp the concept of OP.

It's a supply and demand market.

Single males market place is Greenland and they are selling Snow. The ice is going to have to be pretty special for it Get sold.

Single females market place is the Sahara and they are selling Snow. The snow could be yellow, and you can still be sure somebody is going to buy it.

It comes down to the product that sells itself and is most in demand."

Excellent, I hadn't realised, thanks

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

Maybe, or maybe men will fuck anything on here, just saying

Thats a real nob thing to say to a women your not doing yourself any favours

Definitely a 'white knight'

If you mean im speaking up to get a meet... No the womens 200miles away from us and we have enough play partners right now

So not a "white knight" as you call it just dont see why people feel the need to hide their own insecurities by trying to belittle others its very childish

Do you have a sense of humour, do you know what these mean

Your a mind reader??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let's put it in a manner you might grasp the concept of OP.

It's a supply and demand market.

Single males market place is Greenland and they are selling Snow. The ice is going to have to be pretty special for it Get sold.

Single females market place is the Sahara and they are selling Snow. The snow could be yellow, and you can still be sure somebody is going to buy it.

It comes down to the product that sells itself and is most in demand."

Despite the supply and demand scenario which you have illustrated, most men dont seem to get it!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Let's put it in a manner you might grasp the concept of OP.

It's a supply and demand market.

Single males market place is Greenland and they are selling Snow. The ice is going to have to be pretty special for it Get sold.

Single females market place is the Sahara and they are selling Snow. The snow could be yellow, and you can still be sure somebody is going to buy it.

It comes down to the product that sells itself and is most in demand.

Despite the supply and demand scenario which you have illustrated, most men dont seem to get it! "

Get what? That you get 100s of useless and unwanted messages??

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!

Fair enough

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By *akeyousmile30Man
over a year ago

greenwich

This is a women's world!! Is men are vastly outnumbered and it US that need to stand out!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

This is a women's world!! Is men are vastly outnumbered and it US that need to stand out!!"

Don't belittle yourself,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"my advice - keep looking.

I didn't assume , I know that their are people who make an effort, just not many, perhaps they are just plain lazy

They probably are. Also to lazy to take your 'indirect' advice with this post.

People won't change the way they act or present themselves. Don't try. Let them live the way they like.

Perhaps they should change,

You know. Maybe they should.

So if you see a somebody who doesn't appeal. Move on. Or go crazy and try and make them change.

You don't like lazy people do you? People are free to do what they want.

Like you can.

Indeed I can, but I am happy on here, if others feel the same, crack on

So happy you've started a ranty thread about women not making an effort and then got defensive, personal and a bit nasty..... interesting...

And your commenting on it

haha! Darling I really have nothing better to do today which is heaven quite frankly!

Ie I've got an almost day off and I plan to use it doing absolutely nothing

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"my advice - keep looking.

I didn't assume , I know that their are people who make an effort, just not many, perhaps they are just plain lazy

They probably are. Also to lazy to take your 'indirect' advice with this post.

People won't change the way they act or present themselves. Don't try. Let them live the way they like.

Perhaps they should change,

You know. Maybe they should.

So if you see a somebody who doesn't appeal. Move on. Or go crazy and try and make them change.

You don't like lazy people do you? People are free to do what they want.

Like you can.

Indeed I can, but I am happy on here, if others feel the same, crack on

So happy you've started a ranty thread about women not making an effort and then got defensive, personal and a bit nasty..... interesting...

And your commenting on it

haha! Darling I really have nothing better to do today which is heaven quite frankly!

Ie I've got an almost day off and I plan to use it doing absolutely nothing

Wow,

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

Late to this thread - been trying to tie up my horse.

A friend on here once showed me the messages she'd received that day. There were loads of them and reading them was initially hilarious, then tedious, then quite worrying.

She couldn't have done more to outline what she was after (devastatingly handsome 40-something Welshmen, obviously) in her profile! Still got loads of messages. Oh, and the fact she made it clear that she wasn't meeting for the foreseeable future didn't put them off either.

She couldn't really be any clearer to stop messages or ensure only the right people got it touch. If it makes no difference, why bother? Most women can filter out the dross and find exactly what they want without going to those lengths anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let's put it in a manner you might grasp the concept of OP.

It's a supply and demand market.

Single males market place is Greenland and they are selling Snow. The ice is going to have to be pretty special for it Get sold.

Single females market place is the Sahara and they are selling Snow. The snow could be yellow, and you can still be sure somebody is going to buy it.

It comes down to the product that sells itself and is most in demand.

Despite the supply and demand scenario which you have illustrated, most men dont seem to get it!

Get what? That you get 100s of useless and unwanted messages??"

Yes and they waste their own time and get frustrated!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"my advice - keep looking.

I didn't assume , I know that their are people who make an effort, just not many, perhaps they are just plain lazy

They probably are. Also to lazy to take your 'indirect' advice with this post.

People won't change the way they act or present themselves. Don't try. Let them live the way they like.

Perhaps they should change,

You know. Maybe they should.

So if you see a somebody who doesn't appeal. Move on. Or go crazy and try and make them change.

You don't like lazy people do you? People are free to do what they want.

Like you can.

Indeed I can, but I am happy on here, if others feel the same, crack on

So happy you've started a ranty thread about women not making an effort and then got defensive, personal and a bit nasty..... interesting...

And your commenting on it

haha! Darling I really have nothing better to do today which is heaven quite frankly!

Ie I've got an almost day off and I plan to use it doing absolutely nothing

Wow,

I know!! First almost day off in over a year, I've just got one more job to do and then it's 6 hours of blissful nothing

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Late to this thread - been trying to tie up my horse.

A friend on here once showed me the messages she'd received that day. There were loads of them and reading them was initially hilarious, then tedious, then quite worrying.

Yep, block men and send messages , job done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Late to this thread - been trying to tie up my horse.

A friend on here once showed me the messages she'd received that day. There were loads of them and reading them was initially hilarious, then tedious, then quite worrying.

How did she get to read yours when she's riddled with pointless messages?

Woman collectively say they "bulk delete.

Does she read everyone? Or does she scroll for s catchy message title?

My mind boggles

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let's put it in a manner you might grasp the concept of OP.

It's a supply and demand market.

Single males market place is Greenland and they are selling Snow. The ice is going to have to be pretty special for it Get sold.

Single females market place is the Sahara and they are selling Snow. The snow could be yellow, and you can still be sure somebody is going to buy it.

It comes down to the product that sells itself and is most in demand.

Despite the supply and demand scenario which you have illustrated, most men dont seem to get it!

Get what? That you get 100s of useless and unwanted messages??"

So another analogy for you to try and grasp.

When panning for gold in a stream or river, it can take sifting through thousands and thousands of pieces of dirt/grit/sand to find that piece of gold.

When panning for gold with a couple of rocks in your kitchen sink, it might take a bit longer to find that gold...

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By *aturasqCouple
over a year ago

Hertfordshire

"Late to this thread - been trying to tie up my horse.

A friend on here once showed me the messages she'd received that day. There were loads of them and reading them was initially hilarious, then tedious, then quite worrying.

Yep, block men and send messages , job done "

Just totally contradicted yourself - nice one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let's put it in a manner you might grasp the concept of OP.

It's a supply and demand market.

Single males market place is Greenland and they are selling Snow. The ice is going to have to be pretty special for it Get sold.

Single females market place is the Sahara and they are selling Snow. The snow could be yellow, and you can still be sure somebody is going to buy it.

It comes down to the product that sells itself and is most in demand.

Despite the supply and demand scenario which you have illustrated, most men dont seem to get it!

Get what? That you get 100s of useless and unwanted messages??

So another analogy for you to try and grasp.

When panning for gold in a stream or river, it can take sifting through thousands and thousands of pieces of dirt/grit/sand to find that piece of gold.

When panning for gold with a couple of rocks in your kitchen sink, it might take a bit longer to find that gold..."

There are nuggets of gold on here, but can be hard to find!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Late to this thread - been trying to tie up my horse.

A friend on here once showed me the messages she'd received that day. There were loads of them and reading them was initially hilarious, then tedious, then quite worrying.

Yep, block men and send messages , job done

Just totally contradicted yourself - nice one

Have I, explain ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Let's put it in a manner you might grasp the concept of OP.

It's a supply and demand market.

Single males market place is Greenland and they are selling Snow. The ice is going to have to be pretty special for it Get sold.

Single females market place is the Sahara and they are selling Snow. The snow could be yellow, and you can still be sure somebody is going to buy it.

It comes down to the product that sells itself and is most in demand.

Despite the supply and demand scenario which you have illustrated, most men dont seem to get it!

Get what? That you get 100s of useless and unwanted messages??

So another analogy for you to try and grasp.

When panning for gold in a stream or river, it can take sifting through thousands and thousands of pieces of dirt/grit/sand to find that piece of gold.

When panning for gold with a couple of rocks in your kitchen sink, it might take a bit longer to find that gold..."

What is your point ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with the ladies, it's shit but they seem to hold all the cards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let's put it in a manner you might grasp the concept of OP.

It's a supply and demand market.

Single males market place is Greenland and they are selling Snow. The ice is going to have to be pretty special for it Get sold.

Single females market place is the Sahara and they are selling Snow. The snow could be yellow, and you can still be sure somebody is going to buy it.

It comes down to the product that sells itself and is most in demand.

Despite the supply and demand scenario which you have illustrated, most men dont seem to get it!

Get what? That you get 100s of useless and unwanted messages??

So another analogy for you to try and grasp.

When panning for gold in a stream or river, it can take sifting through thousands and thousands of pieces of dirt/grit/sand to find that piece of gold.

When panning for gold with a couple of rocks in your kitchen sink, it might take a bit longer to find that gold...

What is your point ,

I'm not sure I can make it more simpler, good luck

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By *aturasqCouple
over a year ago

Hertfordshire

"Late to this thread - been trying to tie up my horse.

A friend on here once showed me the messages she'd received that day. There were loads of them and reading them was initially hilarious, then tedious, then quite worrying.

Yep, block men and send messages , job done

Just totally contradicted yourself - nice one

Have I, explain ?"

Read your first post and then read the post you have just agreed to ! Have to give you credit though you are very funny but I am not sure you mean to be .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't have a lengthy, funny and witty profile because I couldn't be arsed to write one and mine tells everything I want people to know. I don't have to, I have good pictures.

If you're that bothered, some blame falls on the men who message the 'no effort' profiles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

Maybe, or maybe men will fuck anything on here, just saying

Thats a real nob thing to say to a women your not doing yourself any favours

Definitely a 'white knight'

If you mean im speaking up to get a meet... No the womens 200miles away from us and we have enough play partners right now

So not a "white knight" as you call it just dont see why people feel the need to hide their own insecurities by trying to belittle others its very childish

Do you have a sense of humour, do you know what these mean

Well I didn't take it in a jokey manner. It was a way to insult the way I looked. I did not once insult the way you looked. And i will not now. As i dont believe in trying to make someone feel self conscious about their appearance. You took a low blow to belittle me. People have the right to disagree with your post without derogative remarks thrown at them.

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By *aturasqCouple
over a year ago

Hertfordshire

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

Maybe, or maybe men will fuck anything on here, just saying

Thats a real nob thing to say to a women your not doing yourself any favours

Definitely a 'white knight'

If you mean im speaking up to get a meet... No the womens 200miles away from us and we have enough play partners right now

So not a "white knight" as you call it just dont see why people feel the need to hide their own insecurities by trying to belittle others its very childish

Do you have a sense of humour, do you know what these mean

You are stunningly gorgeous x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have good pictures and a well thought out profile, but wouldn't matter really as men just look at avatar and message regardless.

I have in capitals NOT MEETING ATM on mine yet get loads of messages asking can I meet tonight or do you fancy a hotel blah blah

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

Maybe, or maybe men will fuck anything on here, just saying

Thats a real nob thing to say to a women your not doing yourself any favours

Definitely a 'white knight'

If you mean im speaking up to get a meet... No the womens 200miles away from us and we have enough play partners right now

So not a "white knight" as you call it just dont see why people feel the need to hide their own insecurities by trying to belittle others its very childish

Do you have a sense of humour, do you know what these mean

You are stunningly gorgeous x"

I agree very pretty x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort.

Some you think we should put more effort into our profiles that you've just said that men don't read?

Wow. Genius.

Your completely missing the point, if women make no effort why would you expect any self respecting man to make an effort to message them , they need to try harder

Most men don't read them, regardless of effort.

"
this... i spend more time saying thanks for the message but you clearly have not read my profile than anything else.

And those that send great messages never seem to fit what im looking for.. but that's whats clubs are for x

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

Really doesn't matter how you conduct yourself on fab or in everyday life as you won't be able to please everyone there will always be someone that finds something to judge you on or bitch about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have good pictures and a well thought out profile, but wouldn't matter really as men just look at avatar and message regardless.

I have in capitals NOT MEETING ATM on mine yet get loads of messages asking can I meet tonight or do you fancy a hotel blah blah

That's exactly the point we keep making, single guys seem unable to read and they wonder why we get fed up of messages where they clearly can't be bothered to make any effort.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I disagree, 99% of the messages 'women' receive are probably unsuitable and from men who haven't read the profile so it makes sense for you to make more of an effort."

If you read some of the godawful messages I receive you will see that making an effort would be akin to flogging a dead horse!

I wouldn't lower myself to the mindset of someone who thinks it's perfectly acceptable to send either a C&P that has no correlation to my profile, or a ' im in the car park by you, fancy it?' message...,

Not

Worth

The

Effort

It's easier to block and move on IMO

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

Maybe, or maybe men will fuck anything on here, just saying

Thats a real nob thing to say to a women your not doing yourself any favours

Definitely a 'white knight'

If you mean im speaking up to get a meet... No the womens 200miles away from us and we have enough play partners right now

So not a "white knight" as you call it just dont see why people feel the need to hide their own insecurities by trying to belittle others its very childish

Do you have a sense of humour, do you know what these mean

You are stunningly gorgeous x"

Thank you

. I just think there was no need for him to try and belittle me by striking below the belt. It should have been a good, clean fight x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It doesn't really matter how eloquent the messages to men are or how thought out, witty, or direct your profile. Men are more interested in the photos on the profile.

Well most men are, not all.....some men on here are attracted to the size of the IQ rather than the size of the breasts."

What about the men that dont like big boobs?

id much rather have a decent conversation and find out if theres actually any point in meeting. Doesnt matter if you have the body of a godess unless you have the intellect to boot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

Maybe, or maybe men will fuck anything on here, just saying

Thats a real nob thing to say to a women your not doing yourself any favours

Definitely a 'white knight'

If you mean im speaking up to get a meet... No the womens 200miles away from us and we have enough play partners right now

So not a "white knight" as you call it just dont see why people feel the need to hide their own insecurities by trying to belittle others its very childish

Do you have a sense of humour, do you know what these mean

You are stunningly gorgeous x

I agree very pretty x"

Thank you x

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

"I have good pictures and a well thought out profile, but wouldn't matter really as men just look at avatar and message regardless.

I have in capitals NOT MEETING ATM on mine yet get loads of messages asking can I meet tonight or do you fancy a hotel blah blah

That's exactly the point we keep making, single guys seem unable to read and they wonder why we get fed up of messages where they clearly can't be bothered to make any effort. "

Some single guys...same as any other gender.. don't read chance their arm ..

Use the tools the site provides to stop these messages .

.. Look and search for the folk that interest you ..be proactive..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have good pictures and a well thought out profile, but wouldn't matter really as men just look at avatar and message regardless.

I have in capitals NOT MEETING ATM on mine yet get loads of messages asking can I meet tonight or do you fancy a hotel blah blah

That's exactly the point we keep making, single guys seem unable to read and they wonder why we get fed up of messages where they clearly can't be bothered to make any effort.

Some single guys...same as any other gender.. don't read chance their arm ..

Use the tools the site provides to stop these messages .

.. Look and search for the folk that interest you ..be proactive..

If you're not meeting at the moment and getting irritated by messages from men asking to meet, why on earth wouldn't you put that filter on?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

Maybe, or maybe men will fuck anything on here, just saying

Thats a real nob thing to say to a women your not doing yourself any favours

Definitely a 'white knight'

If you mean im speaking up to get a meet... No the womens 200miles away from us and we have enough play partners right now

So not a "white knight" as you call it just dont see why people feel the need to hide their own insecurities by trying to belittle others its very childish

Do you have a sense of humour, do you know what these mean

You are stunningly gorgeous x

I agree very pretty x

Thank you x"

Lovely pictures aswell just fabbed them X

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By *ouplekinkCouple
over a year ago

kink town

OPs status: 'gone fishing'

Says it all really!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can only assume that the OP is a troll... Surely no guy would come on here and intentionally portray themselves so badly?

Insulting that lady was totally uncalled for (she's way out of the OP's league anyway

), and arguing with everybody who disagrees with him...

As someone who lives within a meetable distance, this thread has certainly made me think "Good God, don't ever meet him!!"

I guess now I've posted this the insults will soon start in my direction...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the tip, OP.

Hahahaha, Take note

When i find myself whinging and complaining how the site is full of morons I'll change my approach and profile accordingly. But things are pretty sweet right now. It's working just fine.

Then why are you commenting on here, this thread is obviously not aimed at you, although your profile isn't that great, just saying

It doesn't need to be. I'm female. I get plenty of messages

So, it's all about the quantity??

I'm speaking to some lovely men so maybe I just lucked out with my shitty profile haha

Maybe, or maybe men will fuck anything on here, just saying

Thats a real nob thing to say to a women your not doing yourself any favours

Definitely a 'white knight'

If you mean im speaking up to get a meet... No the womens 200miles away from us and we have enough play partners right now

So not a "white knight" as you call it just dont see why people feel the need to hide their own insecurities by trying to belittle others its very childish

Do you have a sense of humour, do you know what these mean

You are stunningly gorgeous x

I agree very pretty x

Thank you x

Lovely pictures aswell just fabbed them X "

Aww thank you

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

actually..... the OP has a point... might not have put it the way i would have but he has a point...

It not just down to "supply and demand" as some would like to suggest... cause all that means is women will just receive more post because they are women....

but then you see the amount on women (and couples) who complain about not receiving mail from what they perceive to be the "right men"....

and this is where i do agree with the OP..... if they are after they right blokes for then... then yes they will probably have to put in the legwork as guys have to....

if you know what you want, don't just sit there and wait on it to come to you... you go out there and be the hunter!!!!!!

popular guys are that for a reason... they are out there, they have done their legwork and are reaping the rewards....

i've always said to people, if you want to meet me, then give me a reason to want to meet you.... just being a woman or a couple and wanting to bestow me with a meet doesn't cut it!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I didn't make an effort, I wouldn't get any meets but that's exactly the way I like it. Nice to see you back OP, lighting the blue touch paper and standing back to watch the resulting chaos as usual!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"actually..... the OP has a point... might not have put it the way i would have but he has a point...

It not just down to "supply and demand" as some would like to suggest... cause all that means is women will just receive more post because they are women....

but then you see the amount on women (and couples) who complain about not receiving mail from what they perceive to be the "right men"....

and this is where i do agree with the OP..... if they are after they right blokes for then... then yes they will probably have to put in the legwork as guys have to....

if you know what you want, don't just sit there and wait on it to come to you... you go out there and be the hunter!!!!!!

popular guys are that for a reason... they are out there, they have done their legwork and are reaping the rewards....

i've always said to people, if you want to meet me, then give me a reason to want to meet you.... just being a woman or a couple and wanting to bestow me with a meet doesn't cut it!!!"

I think this is a fair assessment - the thread would probably have gone differently if the OP had put it like this!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think im too laidback

maybe it's because I've found myself over the past 18 months I don't know but I have no issues with messages or my profile being read or not. I reply to the messages I want to n chat to those I want to. But I do agree with op that our profiles are I just as important as men's. For instance when I was first on here I was married lonely sad and in a very crap place. My pro came across as desperate so I attracted arseholes n had lots of no shows n unrespevtful men. My second pro I was still married n now trying to "escape" I came across as very patetic n needly. I then attracted men who wanted to "abuse" me.

Now I'm very happily single I'm finally incontrol of my own life my pro reflects this and the vast majority of messages I get are off lovely gentlemen n young polite men.

So yes our profiles do matter. Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"actually..... the OP has a point... might not have put it the way i would have but he has a point...

It not just down to "supply and demand" as some would like to suggest... cause all that means is women will just receive more post because they are women....

but then you see the amount on women (and couples) who complain about not receiving mail from what they perceive to be the "right men"....

and this is where i do agree with the OP..... if they are after they right blokes for then... then yes they will probably have to put in the legwork as guys have to....

if you know what you want, don't just sit there and wait on it to come to you... you go out there and be the hunter!!!!!!

popular guys are that for a reason... they are out there, they have done their legwork and are reaping the rewards....

i've always said to people, if you want to meet me, then give me a reason to want to meet you.... just being a woman or a couple and wanting to bestow me with a meet doesn't cut it!!!"

I have to disagree, you're principals are right, and spot on, but they don't work in practice.

It's still completely down to supply and demand, it's the nature of the beast.

Even if you don't want to meet a single female, or couple who doesn't put effort into their profile or "hunt" be assured they will easily find someone who will, all because the demand is extremely high, and the supply is low.

Whether effort is put in or not, messages from the wrong people are still going to come through, admittedly there may be more, but none the less, they will still find what they are looking for.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I can only assume that the OP is a troll... Surely no guy would come on here and intentionally portray themselves so badly?

Insulting that lady was totally uncalled for (she's way out of the OP's league anyway

), and arguing with everybody who disagrees with him...

As someone who lives within a meetable distance, this thread has certainly made me think "Good God, don't ever meet him!!"

I guess now I've posted this the insults will soon start in my direction..."

No insults, your certainly entitled to your comments however I won't lose any sleep over them, The fact that you think I would want to meet you is laughable, don't assume that just because I am a man in here and within 'meetable' distance that I should be interested

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I make the first move quite a bit.

You get what you put in