FabSwingers.com forum: professional

By *inkykouple2016 OP Couple
over a year ago

moray

When someone tells you they are a professional, what does that mean?

I get paid for the job I do but have sex for free.

Does that make me a professional or an amateur? ...

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People will read into 'professional' differently. I personally see it as someone projecting their social group, and seeking similar.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely anyone in gainful employment is professional

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

it just means they're using a word to describe themselves. Some people take it as a personal sleight upon them but it really isn't.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It means that you belong to a socio economic group that has obtained a professional qualification maybe a doctor or lawyer. It's a class war issue

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

A bit like people being described as working class, both are completely outdated terms, oh and the one man/woman business where they describe themselves as the MD

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

To me it sounds like they don't get their hands dirty

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I have never seen a declared 'professional' make a negative comment on others in 'Professional' threads.... But some non professionals can certainly have a hissy fit about them

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It means that you belong to a socio economic group that has obtained a professional qualification maybe a doctor or lawyer. It's a class war issue"
......is there a professional qualification in blow jobs??????if so - where do I enrol? M x

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To me it sounds like they don't get their hands dirty

I hold a 'professional status', and trust me, you don't want to know in detail where and what my hands go in

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It means that you belong to a socio economic group that has obtained a professional qualification maybe a doctor or lawyer. It's a class war issue......is there a professional qualification in blow jobs??????if so - where do I enrol? M x"

Here! Get in the queue ?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We can all call ourselves professionals in our chosen field wether it be a bin man or Drs lol me i just work for myself do what I do very well but no better than anyone else

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"I have never seen a declared 'professional' make a negative comment on others in 'Professional' threads.... But some non professionals can certainly have a hissy fit about them"

yep!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"I have never seen a declared 'professional' make a negative comment on others in 'Professional' threads.... But some non professionals can certainly have a hissy fit about them"

True that.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I consider myself 'working class' but I'm often referred to as a 'professional' during work-related meetings. I think this is just because I'm paid to be there whereas others just have to attend for their own benefit.

To call yourself a 'professional' within social circles is a bit snobby and I wouldn't do it but on here I think it's just a way of saying 'I work and don't want to meet chavs/unemployed people' (please note I am not insinuating all unemployed people are chavs before I get jumped on).

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have never seen a declared 'professional' make a negative comment on others in 'Professional' threads.... But some non professionals can certainly have a hissy fit about them

yep!"

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have never seen a declared 'professional' make a negative comment on others in 'Professional' threads.... But some non professionals can certainly have a hissy fit about them

True that."

Inverse snobbery

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you have letters after your name you could say you're a professional. Easy.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely anyone in gainful employment is professional

No, professions are a class of jobs that require qualifications to enter (e.g. teacher). You cannot be a teacher if you aren't qualified.

You can be a professional footballer, but footballing is not a profession.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *ngel n tedCouple
over a year ago

maidstone

"We are a professional couple", possibly means they've been doing for a while and gotten really good at it.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We avoid anyone with "professional" on thier profile. Not really got a concrete reason to be honest, just puts us off. We have played with people who we later found out to be what we would consider professional but from thier profile, just horny f**kers that want fun times.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"I have never seen a declared 'professional' make a negative comment on others in 'Professional' threads.... But some non professionals can certainly have a hissy fit about them"

It's been at least ooh, 72 hours since a "professional" thread! Talk about inverted snobbery!

The "non professionals" get on my tits! If it doesn't describe you get...over...yourselves ffs!!! Look for your counterparts.

...and breathe...as you were...

Sorry tagging this to yours View!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

It's fine

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have never seen a declared 'professional' make a negative comment on others in 'Professional' threads.... But some non professionals can certainly have a hissy fit about them

It's been at least ooh, 72 hours since a "professional" thread! Talk about inverted snobbery!

The "non professionals" get on my tits! If it doesn't describe you get...over...yourselves ffs!!! Look for your counterparts.

...and breathe...as you were...

Sorry tagging this to yours View!"

It's hilarious how hopelessly insecure some people are. There was that thread where they started frothing at the mouth because a guy dared mention he had a decent income. Actually there were a lot of threads like that...

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you're not sure if it applies to you, it probably doesn't.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Professional men don't drink cans of Stella and belch the national anthem. And,I wouldn't expect one to Dutch oven me either.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here! Get in the queue ?"

I am kneeling and waiting.... obedient as ever!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *inkykouple2016 OP Couple
over a year ago

moray

""We are a professional couple", possibly means they've been doing for a while and gotten really good at it."

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You cannot be a teacher if you aren't qualified.

You can. This has annoyed a lot of teachers..

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When someone tells you they are a professional, what does that mean?

It means they're about to fuck things right up

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"I have never seen a declared 'professional' make a negative comment on others in 'Professional' threads.... But some non professionals can certainly have a hissy fit about them

It's been at least ooh, 72 hours since a "professional" thread! Talk about inverted snobbery!

The "non professionals" get on my tits! If it doesn't describe you get...over...yourselves ffs!!! Look for your counterparts.

...and breathe...as you were...

Sorry tagging this to yours View!

I remember. Insecure doesn't even touch the surface for some.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *inkykouple2016 OP Couple
over a year ago

moray

I do apologise if I've offended anyone. Was not my intention.

I'm an engineer. Don't know if that makes me a professional but I did need a fearsome amount of qualifications to get to where I am.

Peace and love to you all.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You cannot be a teacher if you aren't qualified.

You can. This has annoyed a lot of teachers.."

OK, then it wouldn't be considered a profession anymore.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I do apologise if I've offended anyone. Was not my intention.

I'm an engineer. Don't know if that makes me a professional but I did need a fearsome amount of qualifications to get to where I am.

Peace and love to you all."

In the literal sense, no it doesn't because you wouldn't be barred from that job without your qualifications, your qualifications just mean you were much more likely to get it in the first place.

But in the vernacular, most people who consider engineers to be professionals.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have never seen a declared 'professional' make a negative comment on others in 'Professional' threads.... But some non professionals can certainly have a hissy fit about them

It's been at least ooh, 72 hours since a "professional" thread! Talk about inverted snobbery!

The "non professionals" get on my tits! If it doesn't describe you get...over...yourselves ffs!!! Look for your counterparts.

...and breathe...as you were...

Sorry tagging this to yours View!

I remember. Insecure doesn't even touch the surface for some.

Someone had a hissy fit at me for looking down on people that litter! I mean if you can't look down on them, who else is left

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *inkykouple2016 OP Couple
over a year ago

moray

"I do apologise if I've offended anyone. Was not my intention.

I'm an engineer. Don't know if that makes me a professional but I did need a fearsome amount of qualifications to get to where I am.

Peace and love to you all.

In the literal sense, no it doesn't because you wouldn't be barred from that job without your qualifications, your qualifications just mean you were much more likely to get it in the first place.

But in the vernacular, most people who consider engineers to be professionals. "

I work with high pressure gas. Believe me, I would be barred without my qualifications. !!!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You cannot be a teacher if you aren't qualified.

You can. This has annoyed a lot of teachers..

OK, then it wouldn't be considered a profession anymore. "

Good luck with that...

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I do apologise if I've offended anyone. Was not my intention.

I'm an engineer. Don't know if that makes me a professional but I did need a fearsome amount of qualifications to get to where I am.

Peace and love to you all.

In the literal sense, no it doesn't because you wouldn't be barred from that job without your qualifications, your qualifications just mean you were much more likely to get it in the first place.

But in the vernacular, most people who consider engineers to be professionals.

I work with high pressure gas. Believe me, I would be barred without my qualifications. !!!"

plumber?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I do apologise if I've offended anyone. Was not my intention.

I'm an engineer. Don't know if that makes me a professional but I did need a fearsome amount of qualifications to get to where I am.

Peace and love to you all.

In the literal sense, no it doesn't because you wouldn't be barred from that job without your qualifications, your qualifications just mean you were much more likely to get it in the first place.

But in the vernacular, most people who consider engineers to be professionals.

I work with high pressure gas. Believe me, I would be barred without my qualifications. !!!"

There's a list of professions on Wikipedia...

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *inkykouple2016 OP Couple
over a year ago

moray

"I do apologise if I've offended anyone. Was not my intention.

I'm an engineer. Don't know if that makes me a professional but I did need a fearsome amount of qualifications to get to where I am.

Peace and love to you all.

In the literal sense, no it doesn't because you wouldn't be barred from that job without your qualifications, your qualifications just mean you were much more likely to get it in the first place.

But in the vernacular, most people who consider engineers to be professionals.

I work with high pressure gas. Believe me, I would be barred without my qualifications. !!!

plumber?"

Na. Plumbers work with baby gas. (Low pressure )

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds

I would certainly not want to go to a doctor or lawyer who was not "professionaly" trained and who did not have "professional" credentials. A professional is simply someone who has a professional qualification.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most people wish to meet similar, compatible people. Very few - we hope - would shag the local tramp in the doorway of Netto .

It's just a way of trying to meet like minded people . Why the angst. ?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most people wish to meet similar, compatible people. Very few - we hope - would shag the local tramp in the doorway of Netto .

It's just a way of trying to meet like minded people . Why the angst. ?"

Im a professional tramp and will be in Netto doorway in an hour smelling of cider and pickled eggs - looking for a hot babe ti be professional tramp bonker for the next few hours - I have transport as someone left the trolleys unlocked!! Ladies your carriage awaits!!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *eneral HysteriaMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"...

I work with high pressure gas. Believe me, I would be barred without my qualifications. !!!"

Try green tea or 'windcheaters'. You'll feel fine in no time and work will be much more comfortable - for all.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It just seems a really weird term to use for a swinging website profile imo. Like, it means nothing to me personally. Is it to do with income?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most people wish to meet similar, compatible people. Very few - we hope - would shag the local tramp in the doorway of Netto .

It's just a way of trying to meet like minded people . Why the angst. ?

Oh oh oh oh sounds just too delightful to turn down!!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always say there's no such thing as objectively professional. but if they're meaning "A professional" then i suppose that's anyone with a job =D

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In seriousness - I think people who put professional are as someone said earlier trying to filter out people they think they have little in common with. Im professional with qualifications blah blah blah but I have lots in common with all sorts of people and we all gave this interest in common - maybe theres a little snobbery in it but you can choose whether or not to meet them as much as they can choise not to meet you

I'll meet anyone that isn't arrogant or conceited

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why are so many getting so worked up over this? Everyone has different turn ons. I'm personally far more attracted to a professional man with an average sized cock than to a man that works at Tesco that's hung like a donkey, so I can see why they feel the need to put it.Some women over cock size some over intelligence... if it works for you then there's no right or wrong way to find a man attractive

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"Most people wish to meet similar, compatible people. Very few - we hope - would shag the local tramp in the doorway of Netto .

It's just a way of trying to meet like minded people . Why the angst. ?"

Because they've seen a profile they like that excludes them. To assuage the "slight" and massage their fragile egos they deride.

"Professional" is the bête noire here, but these types of threads come in different guises.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

[Removed by poster at 30/08/16 07:56:45]

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well actually a lecturer teaching anything from hairdressing,beauty,Electrics,plumbing ect obtains a teaching certificate most have not attended uni and they are actually teaching a subject.

Teachers do not see a lecturer as a teacher .Academies are using lecturers to teach as you pay them below teachers salary and as they have a teaching certificate they can teach numerous subjects.

This is why you have hostility between teachers and lecturers with lecturers unions demanding equel pay .

I am a business man and earn possibly in some instances more than some in the so called professions.The reward we holiday and belong to numerous clubs which are dominated by so called professionals and you do get an air of superiority from some,when they find out you are working class earning decent money they get miffrd.

It's all very British and we mix with some who clearly are professionals with racked up high end debt leaving them with working class level of cash flow ,basically they haven't got a pot to piss in but look good lol.

We all see ourselves differently to how others see us .

The class background is now stretched you ha e the very wealthy ,very poor and the working .

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well actually a lecturer teaching anything from hairdressing,beauty,Electrics,plumbing ect obtains a teaching certificate most have not attended uni and they are actually teaching a subject.

Teachers do not see a lecturer as a teacher .Academies are using lecturers to teach as you pay them below teachers salary and as they have a teaching certificate they can teach numerous subjects.

This is why you have hostility between teachers and lecturers with lecturers unions demanding equel pay .

We all see ourselves differently to how others see us .

The class background is now stretched you ha e the very wealthy ,very poor and the working .

We certainly do see ourselves differently: this is far snobbier than anything I've ever read from a middle class professional.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You could be a single mum not working and be more professional than some of the smarmy idiots who class themselves as that.

I'm sick of pigeon holing .. I am what I am

And what I am needs no excuses

I deal my own deck sometimes the aces sometimes the deuces

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't say I've noticed a difference in professional people We've met to the none professional.

Do professionals usually fuck differently or something?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can't say I've noticed a difference in professional people We've met to the none professional.

Do professionals usually fuck differently or something? "

Surely a professional like a banker or solicitor would have to do the usual money laundering checks and look over your ID. They seem to have to do that these days before they will make an utterance!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You could be a single mum not working and be more professional than some of the smarmy idiots who class themselves as that.

How?

I'm sick of pigeon holing .. I am what I am

And what I am needs no excuses

Did anyone demand an excuse from you? I don't go around demanding excuses from people that want a male that's over 6 foot tall and over 9" inches long!!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When someone tells you they are a professional, what does that mean? "

That they are insecure enough that they need to dig deep to find something about themselves that others may like.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The literal meaning and the frequent misuse of the word by self felating egotists are quite different.

But as you can probably tell, I am not bothered

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well actually a lecturer teaching anything from hairdressing,beauty,Electrics,plumbing ect obtains a teaching certificate most have not attended uni and they are actually teaching a subject.

Teachers do not see a lecturer as a teacher .Academies are using lecturers to teach as you pay them below teachers salary and as they have a teaching certificate they can teach numerous subjects.

This is why you have hostility between teachers and lecturers with lecturers unions demanding equel pay ."
utter tosh.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

"Surely anyone in gainful employment is professional

No, a professional is for example, a doctor or a teacher.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely anyone in gainful employment is professional

No, a professional is for example, a doctor or a teacher."

And I disagree.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When someone tells you they are a professional, what does that mean?

That they are insecure enough that they need to dig deep to find something about themselves that others may like. "

Or, perhaps, that they are a member of a chartered profession? It's not one of my criteria for whether I'll meet someone, but if I was describe myself as professional, it's because I am one, not because I'm insecure.

There are more chips in here today than McDonalds.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When someone tells you they are a professional, what does that mean?

That they are insecure enough that they need to dig deep to find something about themselves that others may like.

There are more chips in here today than McDonalds. "

Yes, you're right, of course. However, in the context of fab, there's a lot of so called professionals; in my experience anyone who actually is one will use their job title, ie doctor, teacher, etc

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

"Professional men don't drink cans of Stella and belch the national anthem. And,I wouldn't expect one to Dutch oven me either. "

Yes they do, my husband holds professional status but he never ever refers to himself as that, he sits drinks Stella, farts, plays x box, wouldn't have it any other way.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When someone tells you they are a professional, what does that mean?

That they are insecure enough that they need to dig deep to find something about themselves that others may like.

There are more chips in here today than McDonalds. "

And i wouldn't call those things macydees serve, chips

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can legally and honestly describe myself as a company director, but it's not my source of income. I wonder where that puts me in fabs' class scheme?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"I can legally and honestly describe myself as a company director, but it's not my source of income. I wonder where that puts me in fabs' class scheme?"

Wherever you choose. People can speak themselves up in any way they decide. Better up than down. Others will do the latter.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When someone tells you they are a professional, what does that mean?

That they are insecure enough that they need to dig deep to find something about themselves that others may like.

There are more chips in here today than McDonalds.

And i wouldn't call those things macydees serve, chips

Fair point

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It makes no difference to us if someone is an accountant/teacher/ doctor etc or works in a supermarket.

I wonder what happens when someone is seeking a professional couple where one half of the couple is a doctor and the other collects the recycling.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely anyone in gainful employment is professional

No, a professional is for example, a doctor or a teacher.

And I disagree."

Check your dictionary then

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

"Surely anyone in gainful employment is professional

No, a professional is for example, a doctor or a teacher.

And I disagree."

Well that is what it is, it's not really something to disagree with, it's like saying water gets you get, I disagree, well sorry but it does, but using professional on here, unless you really don't want to meet anyone other than fellow professionals, I'd say there's no need, and I'd also say it's used far to much and ultimately wrong on many occasions.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It makes no difference to us if someone is an accountant/teacher/ doctor etc or works in a supermarket.

I wonder what happens when someone is seeking a professional couple where one half of the couple is a doctor and the other collects the recycling.

It probably depends which is the more attractive half.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea

Most people are working class even the Prime Minister but it depends on how you wanted to label,promote yourself to others, professional or not is a no go area on here as not all will agree so forget labels,titles/letters behind name & just enjoy yourselves x.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can legally and honestly describe myself as a company director, but it's not my source of income. I wonder where that puts me in fabs' class scheme?"

Professions aren't all about income. Radiographers are a profession but the salary is pretty average.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most people are working class even the Prime Minister "

Not sure you've fully grasped the definition of that term

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most people are working class even the Prime Minister

Not sure you've fully grasped the definition of that term

Does anyone really care about class anymore? And how is it actually decided?

My job is probably as working class as they come, it's hard work, my hands get dirty and there's plenty of manual labour. But it pays very well.

So do we go on income or job description etc

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most people are working class even the Prime Minister

Not sure you've fully grasped the definition of that term

Does anyone really care about class anymore? And how is it actually decided? "

The people that I see talking about class the most are politicians who claim to represent 'ordinary people'. But that's a discussion you can start in the politics section.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely anyone in gainful employment is professional

No, a professional is for example, a doctor or a teacher.

And I disagree.

Check your dictionary then

Anyone pursuing a vocation as a means of income that has had education or specific training in that field.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea

"It makes no difference to us if someone is an accountant/teacher/ doctor etc or works in a supermarket.

I wonder what happens when someone is seeking a professional couple where one half of the couple is a doctor and the other collects the recycling.

Yes you are right as everyone contributes to society in one way or another so does it honestly matter what qualifications you have as we are all here to have illicit sex lol.

I for one don't ask a lady what job she does before I dip my wick as its the last thing on my mind during a meet, labelling yourself Professional or not shouldn't need to come into play when swinging as this can't determine whether a person is a degenerate or a nice person just by their education level.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've got a degree but choose to work in a job which doesn't require a formal qualification. Funnily enough I earn more money now than I did before and I'm happier. Don't really care much for labels just do what makes you happy

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely anyone in gainful employment is professional

No, a professional is for example, a doctor or a teacher.

And I disagree.

Check your dictionary then

Anyone pursuing a vocation as a means of income that has had education or specific training in that field. "

Incomplete. It involves mandatory study for mandatory qualifications, required to be a member of a professional body. Again, there's a list of professions on Wikipedia for your convenience

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm willing to conduct some research into this.

I need three ladies, one working class, one middle and one upper.

They will all be scored out of 10 on blowjob skills, I'll then report back with my findings

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It makes no difference to us if someone is an accountant/teacher/ doctor etc or works in a supermarket.

I wonder what happens when someone is seeking a professional couple where one half of the couple is a doctor and the other collects the recycling.

Yes you are right as everyone contributes to society in one way or another so does it honestly matter what qualifications you have as we are all here to have illicit sex lol.

Who said non-professionals were degenerate? Who said professionals were nice people?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea

"Most people are working class even the Prime Minister

Not sure you've fully grasped the definition of that term

Yes i fully understand but he works for a wage like a person working in Tesco, do you get the grasp of why people need to put professional...is it to impress or do they have a better orgasm when comparing qualifications in bed ?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely anyone in gainful employment is professional

No, a professional is for example, a doctor or a teacher.

And I disagree.

Check your dictionary then

Anyone pursuing a vocation as a means of income that has had education or specific training in that field.

Incomplete. It involves mandatory study for mandatory qualifications, required to be a member of a professional body. Again, there's a list of professions on Wikipedia for your convenience "

If you rely on wiki for your "facts" I'll just be getting back to my proffessional duties thanks.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm willing to conduct some research into this.

I need three ladies, one working class, one middle and one upper.

They will all be scored out of 10 on blowjob skills, I'll then report back with my findings

Class and professional or non-professional don't correlate though

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most people are working class even the Prime Minister

Not sure you've fully grasped the definition of that term

They don't "need" to - they just choose to describe themselves as such and choose to meet people similar to themselves.

Why do people struggle to grasp this?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely anyone in gainful employment is professional

No, a professional is for example, a doctor or a teacher.

And I disagree.

Check your dictionary then

Anyone pursuing a vocation as a means of income that has had education or specific training in that field.

Incomplete. It involves mandatory study for mandatory qualifications, required to be a member of a professional body. Again, there's a list of professions on Wikipedia for your convenience

If you rely on wiki for your "facts" I'll just be getting back to my proffessional duties thanks."

Since you're a professional, try reading James Surowiecki - the Wisdom of Crowds. It'll help you in your career since your assumptions about Wikipedia are wrong.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have never seen a declared 'professional' make a negative comment on others in 'Professional' threads.... But some non professionals can certainly have a hissy fit about them"
oh so blinking ture _iew

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most people are working class even the Prime Minister

Not sure you've fully grasped the definition of that term

Yes i fully understand but he works for a wage like a person working in Tesco "

Clearly you don't understand what working class means!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm willing to conduct some research into this.

I need three ladies, one working class, one middle and one upper.

They will all be scored out of 10 on blowjob skills, I'll then report back with my findings

Class and professional or non-professional don't correlate though

It's cool I'm willing to extend my research to include a professional and a none professional

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So if I have an NVQ 5 I'm professional status but in reality I'm just a down to earth builder who's worked bloody hard to be better

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea

"Most people are working class even the Prime Minister

Not sure you've fully grasped the definition of that term

They don't "need" to - they just choose to describe themselves as such and choose to meet people similar to themselves.

Why do people struggle to grasp this?

I choose to meet people similar to me but this has ranged from gentry to working folk, education don't make people similar no way but if its used a comfort blanket by some all well & good.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most people are working class even the Prime Minister

Not sure you've fully grasped the definition of that term

They don't "need" to - they just choose to describe themselves as such and choose to meet people similar to themselves.

Why do people struggle to grasp this?

I choose to meet people similar to me but this has ranged from gentry to working folk, education don't make people similar no way but if its used a comfort blanket by some all well & good."

You choose to meet people you consider similar to yourself in a particular way, as do they. I think this thread and the shrill outrage the mere mention of the word professional generates indicates that actually, it probably does mean something. I might start using it

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely anyone in gainful employment is professional

No, a professional is for example, a doctor or a teacher.

And I disagree.

Check your dictionary then

Anyone pursuing a vocation as a means of income that has had education or specific training in that field.

Incomplete. It involves mandatory study for mandatory qualifications, required to be a member of a professional body. Again, there's a list of professions on Wikipedia for your convenience

If you rely on wiki for your "facts" I'll just be getting back to my proffessional duties thanks.

Since you're a professional, try reading James Surowiecki - the Wisdom of Crowds. It'll help you in your career since your assumptions about Wikipedia are wrong. "

My assumptions?!

I frequent Wikipedia. I have read numerous erroneous pages and glean the useful information from the detritus.

It will be of no use to my career. Very kind of you to offer assistance in my advancement though.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea

"Most people are working class even the Prime Minister

Not sure you've fully grasped the definition of that term

Yes i fully understand but he works for a wage like a person working in Tesco

Clearly you don't understand what working class means! "
Yes i understand why they use the term lol, my best friends range from government ministers to unemployed people but I love their company & personalties & not what society or they have labelled themselves as it don't make them any better to me.

I am not saying don't put Professional but i thought it would hinder rather than increase better meets.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately job title etc matters to some more than the individual are they decent,contributing members ers of the public.

Britain is full of your fur coat no knickers type and generally they stick out like soar thumbs .

Possibly though when they say professional they are looking for folks on the same intellectual level as them and the same interests outside swinging as social side is important too.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most people are working class even the Prime Minister

Not sure you've fully grasped the definition of that term

Yes i fully understand but he works for a wage like a person working in Tesco

Clearly you don't understand what working class means! Yes i understand why they use the term lol, my best friends range from government ministers to unemployed people but I love their company & personalties & not what society or they have labelled themselves as it don't make them any better to me.

I am not saying don't put Professional but i thought it would hinder rather than increase better meets.

Have you ever considered you might be a lot more open minded than the average person?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Unfortunately job title etc matters to some more than the individual are they decent,contributing members ers of the public.

Britain is full of your fur coat no knickers type and generally they stick out like soar thumbs .

Possibly though when they say professional they are looking for folks on the same intellectual level as them and the same interests outside swinging as social side is important too.

The latter, I'd never ask a meet what their job title was.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Profession can be defined in many ways. I meet in a professional manner. No sloppiness.

I don't mind whether someone is professional or not. I look for personality. So prepare yourself for a psychometric test before you meet me. Or a coffee.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've a degree in chemical engineering.

It's also my job .

I earn good money but spend it all too .

But my job doesn't define Me and I find those that use there status of employment as there unique selling points is really sad .

Im si much more than what job I do !

Thank god

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You could be a single mum not working and be more professional than some of the smarmy idiots who class themselves as that.

How?

Because you could have gained a qualification and spent 10 years or so in a very successful career so when you choose to have children you can afford to take time out to raise your family. Okay, you main not be gainfully employed at the moment but you're just taking a career break and still have the same qualifications and level of intellect.

The same goes for the people mentioning Tesco employees. Maybe they've had enough of the rat race and can afford to work a few hours a week in a shop etc just to give them something to do and stop them from being bored.

How do you know whether someone is professional or not when naked in a club? Would you stop play if during the meet they mentioned they were unemployed?

Assumption - the mother of all fuck ups.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Our only interest is........are they good company, and a good shag. We can hold our own amongst people from any walk of life.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

* may

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't bear to read all the comments but in short the word 'professional' has more than one shade of meaning so it's automatically ambiguous. It applies to anyone who is paid to do a job of any kind but it also is applied to those who follow 'professions'. The three traditionally regarded professions are those of a doctor, teacher and lawyer. Technically speaking, those are the only real 'professions'. All other jobs fall into the categories of vocations, jobs or careers.

Hope that helps!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I happen to have more letters after my name than in my name. As none of them were examinations how well I could pleasure a woman, they are sod-all use to a lady in figuring whether I'll screw her well or not.

However, if she's happy to let me sit an entrance exam I'll do my best to pass! Especially if it's an oral exam!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea

"Most people are working class even the Prime Minister

Not sure you've fully grasped the definition of that term

Yes i fully understand but he works for a wage like a person working in Tesco

I am not saying don't put Professional but i thought it would hinder rather than increase better meets.

Have you ever considered you might be a lot more open minded than the average person? "

Me & Kim are people persons who enjoy nice friendly people, yes we have met folk from every so called class & have made friends of the nice ones from these categories.

We too like people who stimulate our minds as well as our bodies & will find its their personality & not their educational success that determines if we meet again.

At the end of the day we meet Professionals & non Professionals so comments I've said on this thread were not a dig but rather a "why" you choose to label & sometimes alienate yourselves.

We are all the same naked...have fun folks x.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You could be a single mum not working and be more professional than some of the smarmy idiots who class themselves as that.

How?

Yup, agree

If I was bored then Tesco would be the last place I would go.

How do you know whether someone is professional or not when naked in a club? Would you stop play if during the meet they mentioned they were unemployed?

Assumption - the mother of all fuck ups."

I'm not sure many people would be discussing their jobs during play. But I broadly agree with you because I use the same logic for people that put "No bi men" on their profiles. How do you spot a bi man when you're naked at a club... other than the limp wrist.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You could be a single mum not working and be more professional than some of the smarmy idiots who class themselves as that.

How?

Yup, agree

If I was bored then Tesco would be the last place I would go.

How do you know whether someone is professional or not when naked in a club? Would you stop play if during the meet they mentioned they were unemployed?

Assumption - the mother of all fuck ups.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We are all the same naked...have fun folks x."

I've seen enough naked people to know this is not true

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea

"We are all the same naked...have fun folks x.

I've seen enough naked people to know this is not true

Bless sorry you have had such an hard time

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We are all the same naked...have fun folks x.

I've seen enough naked people to know this is not true

Bless sorry you have had such an hard time

I'm sure there's a joke in there...

Nope - you'll have to explain it sorry

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've got a degree but choose to work in a job which doesn't require a formal qualification. Funnily enough I earn more money now than I did before and I'm happier. Don't really care much for labels just do what makes you happy "

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The three traditionally regarded professions are those of a doctor, teacher and lawyer. Technically speaking, those are the only real 'professions'. All other jobs fall into the categories of vocations, jobs or careers.

Hope that helps!

That's gotta piss off a few architects and accountants

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *eryBigGirlWoman
over a year ago

East Yorkshire

Hope that helps!

That's gotta piss off a few architects and accountants

And many other professions. I'm a professional as I have to have a specific degree to do the work. The job has a protected title and I have to register and pay yearly fees to a governing body in order to practice. Is this on my fab profile though no because it bears no relevance to this or my sexual preferences and personally I tend to avoid profiles with professional in it.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *picychapMan
over a year ago

Romford

This had me loling

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hope that helps!

That's gotta piss off a few architects and accountants

Well fucking said!!!!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Cor the word "professional" doesn't half get people riled up

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bunch of fucking amateurs...

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok! I'm gonna spin this debate into another direction purely for fun!

Now, if people have uni qualifications, they've been full-time students as opposed to those who've been in work since leaving school. Now, does it follow that if you're a student you have more sex than those in work as you've got more time on your hands? So does having been a student make you more sexually eligible as people will presume you're more sexually experienced than people who haven't been students?

Discuss!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To me it sounds like they don't get their hands dirty

But I'm a professional hand washer!?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok! I'm gonna spin this debate into another direction purely for fun!

Discuss!

I didn't go to uni but I have been in a sexually active relationship for the last 23 years so although I wasn't having lots of partners I was having plenty of sex and most of it I've been sober for

. I'm not saying I'm better at shagging or anything, just that it's not just students who get it regularly.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

"Can't bear to read all the comments but in short the word 'professional' has more than one shade of meaning so it's automatically ambiguous. It applies to anyone who is paid to do a job of any kind but it also is applied to those who follow 'professions'. The three traditionally regarded professions are those of a doctor, teacher and lawyer. Technically speaking, those are the only real 'professions'. All other jobs fall into the categories of vocations, jobs or careers.

Hope that helps!

Doesn't help at all and is quite inaccurate, but it is however your opinion no matter how inaccurate.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

"I happen to have more letters after my name than in my name. As none of them were examinations how well I could pleasure a woman, they are sod-all use to a lady in figuring whether I'll screw her well or not.

However, if she's happy to let me sit an entrance exam I'll do my best to pass! Especially if it's an oral exam!

Really, you must still live with your mam the amount of time you must have spent away at university studying, meaning you couldn't work til later.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have met people from all walks of life, class, professions, etc. I try to treat every one the same, and with a professional manner........ Unless of course there is tea and cake involved. Then they can all feck right off as IT'S MINE

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *omez42Man
over a year ago

gloucester

Earn a living doing something, or doing it to an accepted high standard.

There are a lot of " semi pro" amateurs doing things to a higher standard than the ones earning a living from it.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Earn a living doing something, or doing it to an accepted high standard.

There are a lot of " semi pro" amateurs doing things to a higher standard than the ones earning a living from it."

Well I have not geet a 12inch cock. I can't turn up at a womans house and pretend to fix a washing machine with crap acting skills, but im pretty good at shaggin. Quite professional infact

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you would like a little insight into how some professionals work then turn on ITV 1 right now at 9pm....... Warning tho it is not for the faint hearted

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

Post new Message to Thread