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" I think we are all a little suspicious of no verifications at all though. Or are you? ![]() You saying we are suspicious...lol we are all strange creatures at times....whats for one aint for another......lol........the best verification system in the world is still there to be abused.......maybe we are too trusting that someone wouldnt go to the extremes in photo shop to create a false pic holding a piece of paper up quoting this site in order to get a photo verified........but in all honesty the verification thing just mystifies us!!!! is it THAT important???? as you say.....cam....p/call///meet for dtink....tends to allow gut instinct to take control.... ![]() | |||
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"Makes no odds to us... We tend to take as we find. It doesn't take long to find if they are genuine etc. And wouldn't make the blindest bit of difference if validations all said they are fantastic lovely brilliant.. Its how they are with us and us with them that would matter eh... besides, yet to see anyone with crap validations lol.. I mean would you put the crap ones up?? ![]() What he said ^^^^^^^^^ | |||
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"That does rather defeat the object of the process doesn't it? Wonder if admins have a view on this - one possible solution (though not foolproof) might be an "Alert an admin" button that appears on every profile, and if you're suspicious of any aspect of it, hit the button, select a 'reason' from a pulldown (or insert text?) and send it off for the nice people at Fab to review and act on if they agree there's summat fishy.. " There is this type of button on the right hand said of the profile when you click on it ![]() | |||
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"I think we are all a little suspicious of no verifications at all though. Or are you? ![]() I wouldn't say suspicious, I'd say appropriately cautious. Even with some of the verifications being false I still reckon you get better odds targeting verified members, so it makes sense to be wary of unverified people.... That said, everyone has to start off as unverified... and in fact met someone who wasn't verified and had a great time. Must have been an element of luck to that, but am starting to get that vibe now when I chat to people and think I am starting to be able to tell if someone genuinely wants to meet. I don't really tend to take much notice of photo verifications if I'm honest... | |||
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" I think we are all a little suspicious of no verifications at all though. Or are you? ![]() ![]() We are with you on this one, and no, no verifications don't put us off. We have had some great meets without the person having any feedback at all. We went with our gut instinct and used that ![]() | |||
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"jesus...nooooooooo.........would never turn up on anyones doorstep or indeed invite anyone to ours!!!!. always always always is our 1st meet a social one..........and then if we like each other then its lets go somewhere.....that can take between 5 mins and 5 hours......lmfao but as we have been saying we are all different.......there has been threads before on number of verifications....length of friends list etc etc....but lets be honest not one person on this site will allow a negative verification to show on their account.....and naming and shaming is not allowed.......which leads me back again to.....is it really THAT important......lol ![]() I don't think the point is what the verification actually says, just whether it really is from them meeting someone instead of them doing it with another fake profile or just getting a friend to verify them... | |||
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"I don't think the point is what the verification actually says, just whether it really is from them meeting someone instead of them doing it with another fake profile or just getting a friend to verify them... so if the verification is from a fake profile or a friend how do you know??? i think the point was what is more important.............being photo verified or being verified by others............to us it is being photo verified............cos loads of accounts verified by cam or p/call means little and then there is the false ones ...lol....so we tend to completely ignore the verifications and go with our instinct ![]() But then you have people faking pictures. Think it's all a guide rather than a guarantee. I don’t like to cam but will to verify. Personally there is nothing like meeting up in a public place for a drink ![]() | |||
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"you have to be careful some ppl have friends on fab that recommend fab to them and once they join they verify them so they can get more emails i emailed a bloke who just joined and was verified it turned out his sister verified him gr8 hey " Oh, wonder if they ..... oh na anyway, yes, lol | |||
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"...so we tend to completely ignore the verifications and go with our instinct ![]() Well yeah, I just think you need to take them for what they are. None of them are fool proof. In terms of being able to tell if it is a fake verification, well you can't, but as someone mentioned earlier... if they have a few from different people and those people are also have decent profiles and are fairly well verified then you stand quite a good chance don't you think? At the end of the day though, whether they are well verified or not, they still have to want to meet you. | |||
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"......I mean would you put the crap ones up?? ![]() I don't think anyone would, but if that's the only one you got and wanted it on your profile and hiding it, who knows if it's a bad one, lol. | |||
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" ............. I think we are all a little suspicious of no verifications at all though. Or are you? ![]() No. Not really. The best sort of verification is still word of mouth. Having a profile here is simply convenient for some folks - it isn't the beginning and ending of their play. | |||
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"Single verification doesn’t mean a lot but a few from different people verified by a few them self’s is pretty much nailed on they are who they say they are. Or is it? As for photos with white paper lol. I had a sometimes play with Photoshop and in half an hour you can do all sorts. After all we have all seen cleleb heads on porn body's. So the whole thing is part of a 5 step thing, Mail Cam Phone Meet Play I think we are all a little suspicious of no verifications at all though. Or are you? ![]() we think its a good idea to show on a profile wot kind of verification ie a little flag on top instead of a tick stating wot sort of verification ie the five above (flag saying by cam or meet, phone ect) this still allows for member to have the choice wether to show or hide their verifications but allows others to see how they have been verified ![]() | |||
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"I would have though the photo verify would have more points so to speak. I know what you are saying re photoshop, but your face, piece of paper and your site name is pretty strong evidence. Verified by unless we can see who verified them, to me, has weekend the whole thing. After all one poster said he admitted that it was his sister that verified him...." Yes, but you could argue that you don't know who is checking the pictures and whether they are getting it right... It's just down to judgement, and if they have verifications it is down to you to decide whether you trust those verifications or not. | |||
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"I would have though the photo verify would have more points so to speak. I know what you are saying re photoshop, but your face, piece of paper and your site name is pretty strong evidence. Verified by unless we can see who verified them, to me, has weekend the whole thing. After all one poster said he admitted that it was his sister that verified him...." When the site owners took over this site they saw the photo verify option as a way of wheedling out fakers and thats why we verified ourselves with it, to support what we thought was a good idea seeing as so many people were complaining about fakes I must be very naive to think that there are people that would go to the troouble of doctoring pics to make themselves look genuine ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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" we think its a good idea to show on a profile wot kind of verification ie a little flag on top instead of a tick stating wot sort of verification ie the five above (flag saying by cam or meet, phone ect) this still allows for member to have the choice wether to show or hide their verifications but allows others to see how they have been verified ![]() Think this was discussed in the site improvements section, and agree. Should have the option for verifications to still be anonymous but know which type of verification it is. | |||
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"....we think its a good idea to show on a profile wot kind of verification ie a little flag on top instead of a tick stating wot sort of verification ie the five above (flag saying by cam or meet, phone ect) this still allows for member to have the choice wether to show or hide their verifications but allows others to see how they have been verified ![]() Oh brill idea. like 3 cams, 1 phone, 5 meets. Guess it will depend on how difficult it is for admin to implement. | |||
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"I would have though the photo verify would have more points so to speak. I know what you are saying re photoshop, but your face, piece of paper and your site name is pretty strong evidence. Verified by unless we can see who verified them, to me, has weekend the whole thing. After all one poster said he admitted that it was his sister that verified him.... When the site owners took over this site they saw the photo verify option as a way of wheedling out fakers and thats why we verified ourselves with it, to support what we thought was a good idea seeing as so many people were complaining about fakes I must be very naive to think that there are people that would go to the troouble of doctoring pics to make themselves look genuine ![]() ![]() ![]() The blokes who get no meets maybe? ![]() | |||
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"....we think its a good idea to show on a profile wot kind of verification ie a little flag on top instead of a tick stating wot sort of verification ie the five above (flag saying by cam or meet, phone ect) this still allows for member to have the choice wether to show or hide their verifications but allows others to see how they have been verified ![]() Oh and if your a family member, lol | |||
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"Maybe there's a case for doing away with cam and phone verifications altogether. You see someone or a couple on webcam or chat, regardless of how filthily, on the phone and it proves............? If we stripped out of the 'by meeting in person' lists all those who'd only met for coffee or a chat or a drink or anything short of play a lot of lists would be very much shorter and a great deal more relevant." yes good point as we would never dream of verifying someone just by talking to them on fone or cam!!!! | |||
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"Photo verification of a single guy/woman is dubious as they can take a quick pic when the "partner" is away. So I would be cautious over those verifications (even though I bothered to verify myself!) Couples who are photo verified I would trust a little more but still with a bit of work and an editing program even those could be faked. But you can`t easily fake a live webcam so I use that as my rule of thumb. As for verifications that ppl have but hide them I find that suspicious, but can see some ppl may have privacy concerns, but if someone was happy to take the time to verify you, genuinely, why would you want to hide it? (I honestly dont understand it and I`d be interested if ppl can give some examples of why?) Especially as you can choose which verifications to show." I have hidden ours out of respect and privacy for those we have met,I have verified others from meets and don't mind what they do with them,if they choose to hide them or show them im not offended either way its personal choice,I have had them on show but decided to hide them......another reason is this....who we meet really has nothing to do with anyone else on this site and believe me when I tell you that there are people that trawl through peoples friends lists and verifications for very strange reasons ![]() | |||
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"Go to My Account Manage Verifications and each verification should have a 'delete' link," Thanks have tried looking there just has an option to remove or display on profile. We have hidden it but o still shows that we have a verified profile which I take is different from photo verification. Never mind just shows no verification system is 100% | |||
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"I honestly dont understand it and I`d be interested if ppl can give some examples of why?" Tried to write an explanation but got quite jumbled so now re-written it using you and myself as an example: Say I met you at a social and got chatting, I then verify you as genuine on here. You might (i stress MIGHT as this is an example) take a peak at my profile and see who else I had met (no problems there so far). If you then decided you wanted to meet one of those people yourself you would likely messages them, but say they then ignored you... you end up asking me to speak to them to see if they will meet you, possibly go as far as annoying me about it. This has been known to happen, and so people hide their verifications to avoid this. Also, people can get jealous when someone they have met and liked is off meeting lots of other people while they are getting nowhere... I'm sure they may be other reasons, but just some examples. | |||
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"Photo verification of a single guy/woman is dubious as they can take a quick pic when the "partner" is away. So I would be cautious over those verifications (even though I bothered to verify myself!) Couples who are photo verified I would trust a little more but still with a bit of work and an editing program even those could be faked. But you can`t easily fake a live webcam so I use that as my rule of thumb. As for verifications that ppl have but hide them I find that suspicious, but can see some ppl may have privacy concerns, but if someone was happy to take the time to verify you, genuinely, why would you want to hide it? (I honestly dont understand it and I`d be interested if ppl can give some examples of why?) Especially as you can choose which verifications to show." In a word.....discretion | |||
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"I honestly dont understand it and I`d be interested if ppl can give some examples of why? Tried to write an explanation but got quite jumbled so now re-written it using you and myself as an example: Say I met you at a social and got chatting, I then verify you as genuine on here. You might (i stress MIGHT as this is an example) take a peak at my profile and see who else I had met (no problems there so far). If you then decided you wanted to meet one of those people yourself you would likely messages them, but say they then ignored you... you end up asking me to speak to them to see if they will meet you, possibly go as far as annoying me about it. This has been known to happen, and so people hide their verifications to avoid this. Also, people can get jealous when someone they have met and liked is off meeting lots of other people while they are getting nowhere... I'm sure they may be other reasons, but just some examples." ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Photo verification of a single guy/woman is dubious as they can take a quick pic when the "partner" is away. So I would be cautious over those verifications (even though I bothered to verify myself!) Couples who are photo verified I would trust a little more but still with a bit of work and an editing program even those could be faked. But you can`t easily fake a live webcam so I use that as my rule of thumb. As for verifications that ppl have but hide them I find that suspicious, but can see some ppl may have privacy concerns, but if someone was happy to take the time to verify you, genuinely, why would you want to hide it? (I honestly dont understand it and I`d be interested if ppl can give some examples of why?) Especially as you can choose which verifications to show. In a word.....discretion " what i cant fathom out.....and maybe it is a absolute blonde moment here.........people hide their verifications for discretion????? i would have thought that if people wanted to be discrete they WOULDNT bother to verify others that they have met. The fact that up until recent these verifications have been shown would imply that the verifier is quite happy for their verification to be public..........so the point of hiding your verifications is what???? to hide the fact you play a lot....lmao......i suppose some folk dont want folk to see who they have been "playing with"....well no need to post the verification.....to be honest once you have a few verifications on your account i think we all know you would appear to be genuine..........so the appreciation society can be at the time of meeting rather than all the usual guff you read..........."had a gr8 meet"........"sucked like a dyson"......etc etc........hence of our 2 meets we have never bothered verifying!!! ![]() | |||
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"Untill recent we did hide our verifications..... You have always been able to by the way! Not cause we were ashamed at all but sick of people we met asking us to ask others we know if we would put a word in... Also some people get all mardy and grumpy when they see who you have played with... However now we are trying the show approach again as we can easily block people from even seeing our profile.. let alone who we have played with.... What is it with people who over analise everything anyway lol.... ![]() Come and lay on my couch Mr Notts and tell me all about it ![]() | |||
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"Photo verification of a single guy/woman is dubious as they can take a quick pic when the "partner" is away. So I would be cautious over those verifications (even though I bothered to verify myself!) Couples who are photo verified I would trust a little more but still with a bit of work and an editing program even those could be faked. But you can`t easily fake a live webcam so I use that as my rule of thumb. As for verifications that ppl have but hide them I find that suspicious, but can see some ppl may have privacy concerns, but if someone was happy to take the time to verify you, genuinely, why would you want to hide it? (I honestly dont understand it and I`d be interested if ppl can give some examples of why?) Especially as you can choose which verifications to show. In a word.....discretion what i cant fathom out.....and maybe it is a absolute blonde moment here.........people hide their verifications for discretion????? i would have thought that if people wanted to be discrete they WOULDNT bother to verify others that they have met. The fact that up until recent these verifications have been shown would imply that the verifier is quite happy for their verification to be public..........so the point of hiding your verifications is what???? to hide the fact you play a lot....lmao......i suppose some folk dont want folk to see who they have been "playing with"....well no need to post the verification.....to be honest once you have a few verifications on your account i think we all know you would appear to be genuine..........so the appreciation society can be at the time of meeting rather than all the usual guff you read..........."had a gr8 meet"........"sucked like a dyson"......etc etc........hence of our 2 meets we have never bothered verifying!!! ![]() We don't ask for people to verify us, and have never shown our verifications at all. We don't feel the need to let people know who we have met, when, why, what for and what happened....if people want to be discreet, what is the problem? If people don't like others who hide their verifications, they can just move to one of the other thousands of people on here. We won't be offended ![]() | |||
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"Untill recent we did hide our verifications..... You have always been able to by the way! Not cause we were ashamed at all but sick of people we met asking us to ask others we know if we would put a word in... Also some people get all mardy and grumpy when they see who you have played with... However now we are trying the show approach again as we can easily block people from even seeing our profile.. let alone who we have played with.... What is it with people who over analise everything anyway lol.... ![]() ![]() Its not just me is it lol.... Has everyone got an issue with everyone elses way of doing things at the minute lol...???? Each to.. Were happy with our way and who we meet.. Were happy with our profile, our pictures and who we meet lol.. May not suit all but as the olde English saying goes... 'Quite frankly my dear.. i don't give a damn' lol.... Whatever works for you is good surely lol... ![]() | |||
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"Untill recent we did hide our verifications..... You have always been able to by the way! Not cause we were ashamed at all but sick of people we met asking us to ask others we know if we would put a word in... Also some people get all mardy and grumpy when they see who you have played with... However now we are trying the show approach again as we can easily block people from even seeing our profile.. let alone who we have played with.... What is it with people who over analise everything anyway lol.... ![]() ![]() ![]() Mr notts, this is twice on the same thread that all I have to say is What he said up there ^^^^^ ![]() | |||
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