FabSwingers.com forum: Bareback

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

There's an increasing amount of pics on here of guys who aren't using condoms...I find it such a turn off and I wonder what std's they've got

What does everyone else think about bareback?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There's an increasing amount of pics on here of guys who aren't using condoms...I find it such a turn off and I wonder what std's they've got

What does everyone else think about bareback?"

im the same if i see a profile with a pic on bearback then i wont reply or send a message

the only person i go bearback with is my partner

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

could be the wife or long team girl-friend ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"could be the wife or long team girl-friend ...."

thats what I was about to say lol

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By *john121Man
over a year ago

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"There's an increasing amount of pics on here of guys who aren't using condoms...I find it such a turn off and I wonder what std's they've got

What does everyone else think about bareback?"

possibly long term partner and don't presume that if you go bare back you must have an STD! its a little immature to think that way...safe is always best but doesn't preclude the risk of being passed infections just lessons them!

the only safe sex is no sex!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bareback only with one regular partner.

Any casual sex partner who thinks that condoms are unnecessary has no place in my life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't people get tired of asking what other's think of bareback?!! If it's not for you why worry your heads about it? I have absolutely no interest in gang bangs, bukkake etc, will you see me starting a thread about it?!! Hell no - because it's not for me.

If I come across a profile with activities that I don't like - I'm on to the next one!

If in this day and age someone wants to post a picture of his bare dick up the crack of all his meets - and sorry I don't buy the "regular partner bs" then I ignore and on to the next one.

We're all adults here. Even if there was a law against bareback sex some would still break it - leave people to get on with living their lives how they see fit and enjoy your own!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love it that some people must've spent ages studying to see if they can spot the condom! What a great game!

I all seriousness though, aren't we a little quick to judge? Like others have stated, could be an ex partner etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I must admit I never really scrutinise pics to the degree of looking for the condom. What is the point. If a guy is wearing a condom in a pic, does that mean he hasnt gone bareback 20 times previously and not had pics taken? It means nothing. If I was concerned that there were loads of pics with different ladies without condoms I might ask him, but I always protect myself, which means that if he met me he would be wearing a condom or I would not play with him

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By *ilmiss75Woman
over a year ago

Thornton

"could be the wife or long team girl-friend ...."

Quite true.. So therefore its another definate no.

I recently got mail off a guy who has pics of him doing bareback with 2 completely different women. Upon asking him about it, he replied saying he replied saying they were both regular women he meets. Is that suppost to make it ok? Who knows just how many other people they are doing bareback with.

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By *ohjaneCouple
over a year ago

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I just hope that all these people who go on about how terribly bad bareback sex is, see fit to go for their check-ups regularly. And by regularly I don't mean every 6 months or even 4 ! Wearing condoms for penetration only does not REMOVE the risk of STI's, it only lessens it. Some people on here meet twice a week. When do they find time to have check-ups ?

Let us not become so righteous and complacent in our "safe-ness" that we neglect the only real way of being sure of what we have got, or not !!!

Jane x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

need a meet first to find out what a condom is and bareback, well is that no summit to do with an animal out in the woods

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is exactly what this forum needed. A topic about bareback !

I know lets do one about ..

1/ Biggest cock

2/Biggest Boobs

3/Spit or swallow

4/ single guys

5/Couples who block you

6/Singles who block you

7/ Blah

8/ Blah

9/ More Blah

Not been done to death have they ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is exactly what this forum needed. A topic about bareback !

I know lets do one about ..

1/ Biggest cock

2/Biggest Boobs

3/Spit or swallow

4/ single guys

5/Couples who block you

6/Singles who block you

7/ Blah

8/ Blah

9/ More Blah

Not been done to death have they ? "

no ones twisting your arm just read the threads yo want to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would be put off by someone who had bareback pictures. But each to their own as long as it doesn't involve me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There's an increasing amount of pics on here of guys who aren't using condoms...I find it such a turn off and I wonder what std's they've got

What does everyone else think about bareback?"

Always use a rubber and wouldn't play with anyone who doesn't. Why increase your risks when you don't have to.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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Don't copy and paste peoples profiles onto the forums please.

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By *-and-KCouple
over a year ago

Back of Beyond

"Don't copy and paste peoples profiles onto the forums please."

Now I'm assuming this is aimed at me because you have deleted my post.

For your information it was not a copy and paste. If you'd cared to read it it specifically said, the post read 'something like this' Which obviously precludes copy and paste actions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

these threads do make us laugh

this is a swingers site the one place we should all feel comfortable with our choices. if somebody does bareback thats up to them aslong as they dont sneak it in during a meet with someone who doesnt what theproblem just move on. asfor pics with no condom well 99% of ours are because its us lol again if ppl dont like what they see move on no harm done. we hope thats not to much of a rant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There's an increasing amount of pics on here of guys who aren't using condoms...I find it such a turn off and I wonder what std's they've got

What does everyone else think about bareback?"

So the guys aren't wearing condoms.

The females they're with are just as bad for accepting bareback in the first place.......if it isn't their husband or girlfriend.

Seems like another guy bashing thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"these threads do make us laugh

Couldn't agree with you more.

I really don't get why people get incensed because some people prefer bareback play. I don't like bukkake, gangbangs or dogging. If I come across a profile that likes those activities, I'm quite capable of moving onto the next one.

There's no need for me to start a thread about what other adults want to do as they enjoy it.

If it's not something you're into why bother yourself with it?!! Don't get it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

here here we are all supposed to be open minded here so why get your knickers in a twist about what others do unless it affect you xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

would neva consider bareback too much stds going around

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By *entadreadMan
over a year ago

Essex

"There's an increasing amount of pics on here of guys who aren't using condoms...I find it such a turn off and I wonder what std's they've got

What does everyone else think about bareback?"

Every picture says 100 words...

Some of the photos could have been taken during long term relationships, with people they trust, it could be a number of things. I do not think anyone would willingly risk their health and lives by barebacking just for the sake of it.

I would not go as far as calling it a turn-off.

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"could be the wife or long team girl-friend ...."

Well at least that's the answer most will give you.... even though they are single... which most probably means they are using private photos of someone not on the site, without their knowledge..... nice!

Aside from that they are not always the same female.

Anyway, I like seeing these photos on profiles.... it makes me feel better informed to make my choices.

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By *entadreadMan
over a year ago

Essex

"could be the wife or long team girl-friend ....

Aside from that they are not always the same female.

Anyway, I like seeing these photos on profiles.... it makes me feel better informed to make my choices."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do not think anyone would willingly risk their health and lives by barebacking just for the sake of it. "

No more than those that eat a high saturated fat diet, smoke 60 a day, drink 20 pints a night etc!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone diffrent and people know all the risks so its up to them ... At times people get lost in the passion of sex and there values go out the window as it feel right at the time . Just think if people are having lots of bareback sex thay need there cheeks just for them but for others thay meet. I know a lady she has been swinging over ten years and its bareback and never been to a STD clinic for tests as she say she feel ok.... I tell her why but its up to her. Everyones diffrent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All I can say is Bareback, is a fantastic way to have sex if yourself and the other party trust each other.

I will swing with anyone who's trusting and yeah its a risk I take but I get a check up every so often.

However as I state on my profile, if a women wants to have sex but is a little concerned over bareback I will very respectfully wear a condom so that she can enjoy herself with the worry.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"Don't copy and paste peoples profiles onto the forums please.

Now I'm assuming this is aimed at me because you have deleted my post.

For your information it was not a copy and paste. If you'd cared to read it it specifically said, the post read 'something like this' Which obviously precludes copy and paste actions.

Ok...don't re-arrange a few words of someone else's profile and put it on the forums please.

Other peoples profiles are not up for discussion unless they ask for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why are some swingers so naïve? Do you really think that people who don’t post these types of pictures are safer?

An informed choice is a good choice, just assume everyone is barebacking and you won’t go far wrong

Alternatively don’t have sex with strangers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't copy and paste peoples profiles onto the forums please.

Now I'm assuming this is aimed at me because you have deleted my post.

For your information it was not a copy and paste. If you'd cared to read it it specifically said, the post read 'something like this' Which obviously precludes copy and paste actions.

Ok...don't re-arrange a few words of someone else's profile and put it on the forums please.

Other peoples profiles are not up for discussion unless they ask for it."

Your on the ball today moderating...you must love it too much!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why are some swingers so naïve? Do you really think that people who don’t post these types of pictures are safer?

An informed choice is a good choice, just assume everyone is barebacking and you won’t go far wrong

Alternatively don’t have sex with strangers

...and there you have it!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"Don't copy and paste peoples profiles onto the forums please.

Now I'm assuming this is aimed at me because you have deleted my post.

For your information it was not a copy and paste. If you'd cared to read it it specifically said, the post read 'something like this' Which obviously precludes copy and paste actions.

Ok...don't re-arrange a few words of someone else's profile and put it on the forums please.

Other peoples profiles are not up for discussion unless they ask for it.

Your on the ball today moderating...you must love it too much!"

Only when there is not much to moderate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People who say they do bareback regularly but its O.K because they also go for regular checks make me wonder.

Regular checks aren't a form of protection, they're just a means of finding out if your going to die or not!

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By *john121Man
over a year ago

staffs

"People who say they do bareback regularly but its O.K because they also go for regular checks make me wonder.

Regular checks aren't a form of protection, they're just a means of finding out if your going to die or not!

XX"

I take you've found a way of living forever? (tongue in cheek!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't people get tired of asking what other's think of bareback?!! If it's not for you why worry your heads about it? I have absolutely no interest in gang bangs, bukkake etc, will you see me starting a thread about it?!! Hell no - because it's not for me.

If I come across a profile with activities that I don't like - I'm on to the next one!

If in this day and age someone wants to post a picture of his bare dick up the crack of all his meets - and sorry I don't buy the "regular partner bs" then I ignore and on to the next one.

We're all adults here. Even if there was a law against bareback sex some would still break it - leave people to get on with living their lives how they see fit and enjoy your own!

sounds fair to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your only as clean as the last person you played bareback with.

Why would anyone take the risk?

You can be clear of all infections/diseases on the day you get tested then play that night & wow next time you get tested you may be riddled with some nasty suprise.

Some tests will not show for at least 3 months, so imagine how many other people could be infected (depending on the amount of bareback meets since).

Is it really worth the few minutes of bareback for a lifetime of misery??

Yes it is up to everyone whether they do bareback & god forbid anyone to say it shouldn't happen on this site but it does.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do not think anyone would willingly risk their health and lives by barebacking just for the sake of it.

No more than those that eat a high saturated fat diet, smoke 60 a day, drink 20 pints a night etc!

I drink petrol, which is becoming a very costly habit!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People who say they do bareback regularly but its O.K because they also go for regular checks make me wonder.

Regular checks aren't a form of protection, they're just a means of finding out if your going to die or not!

I take you've found a way of living forever? (tongue in cheek!)"

No.....but we'd rather not shuffle off this mortal coil because of something avoidable.

We've had some great, sexy times but in retrospect none was worth dying for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Regular checks aren't a form of protection, they're just a means of finding out if your going to die or not!

XX"

Thats very dramatic, not everyone dies of a STI

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

...I drink petrol, which is becoming a very costly habit!!!

It's cheaper than beer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Regular checks aren't a form of protection, they're just a means of finding out if your going to die or not!

Thats very dramatic, not everyone dies of a STI "

Lets face it, most STI's are unpleasant but curable.

Its the odd ones that aren't that we're talking about here.

Not everyone dies from being shot either..........but its best not to put yourself in that position, just in case, I'm sure you'd agree?

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By *-and-KCouple
over a year ago

Back of Beyond

Even taking the precaution of wearing a condom is no guarantee of protection. Yep you may avoid stuff like syphillis or any of the commonly held sti's.

However skin to skin contact in the genital area also carries risk even if you are using condoms. Its easy enough to pick up genital warts this way. Then because of the way these infect it could be months, years or even never before they actually develop. This puts you in a position of not knowing who you got the infection from.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

In the end we are all grown ups, (or we should be you filthy lurkers).

If people wanna bareback then they can. If I wanna use a condom I can. If people wanna get tested they can.

There are levels of risk we are all willing to take or not take, it does not mean we would have regrets if it goes wrong. If people still feel pressured to not wear condoms because others have made an informed choice not too, then they need to mature a little. It's not the playground any more, you don't need to follow the crowd anymore.

I doubt most people on here would be easily swayed as they are already not following the crowd in terms of having an alternative sexlife.

We all know STD's are on the rise even in the more mature age groups.

http://www.hpa.org.uk/hpr/archives/2010/hpr3410.pdf

nothing like informed concent. Interestingly the graphs a few pages down show that around 55 rate of infection reduces to ALMOST zero for some STI's. But men still look to be the biggest carries.

So you lesbian 55 year olds look as safe as you can get without a test.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hey, Mrs Duck&Bunny, I'm loving your new avatar!

Sunny xx

(totally straight, but still appreciates pretty ladies!)

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

"Hey, Mrs Duck&Bunny, I'm loving your new avatar!

Sunny xx

(totally straight, but still appreciates pretty ladies!)"

Hi sunny,

Thanks, we decided the pregnancy ones really had to go as it was 6 months ago now and not particularly relevant, although it did give the guys some entertainment.

We took that one, on a rare night out with the kids being baby sat. So it was nice to get dressed up and made up for a change.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not been done to death have they ?

no ones twisting your arm just read the threads yo want to "

No they are not , but 35 previous Bareback headline topics ,says it all really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My back always tends to be bare as it gets a bit hot otherwise. My cock however gets wrapped up in a condom.

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By *sian_coupleukCouple
over a year ago

manchester

me and my other half fuck bareback and been 2ghter for 9yrs. so our pix show us bareback however when we meet other cpls or men then they must use condom when intercourse - though i prefer giving BJ without condom as i hate tase of rubber!!!

but i like a shaven cut cock, that has been washed and not smell of piss

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally i dont care what other do and who they shag and what they wear while doing it

I look after myself cause to me im the only person who counts on here, the rest can do what they like with other so long as they respect my rules when they meet me as i do with people i meet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hey the only safe sex is no sex and life would be a lot duller without it let people make up their own minds at the end of the day its up to the individuals who they play with or not and who are we to judge. Pictures dont tell a story nore do verifications or profiles they just give you an idea of whats that person is like you cant know them until you have actually met them. And in this world of casual sex. Do you ask for a full medical history certificate before sex.

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By *andy muncherMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

"Hey the only safe sex is no sex and life would be a lot duller without it let people make up their own minds at the end of the day its up to the individuals who they play with or not and who are we to judge. Pictures dont tell a story nore do verifications or profiles they just give you an idea of whats that person is like you cant know them until you have actually met them. And in this world of casual sex. Do you ask for a full medical history certificate before sex. "

its dose not mater he or she could have dipped in you no what good luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its dose not mater he or she could have dipped in you no what good luck

I always use condoms and thats my choice. But condoms are not 100% safe they can split or break but they are better than nothing.

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

This subject will forever be 'done to death' because people will insist on trying to force their ideologies on other people, the fundamental cause of wars, both sides believing they are religiously RIGHT.

The fact that the safe-sex brigade will always try force their way on others is what causes people to lie about it thus compounding this major issue/belief that they have.

Everything about this subject is everything swinging is NOT supposed to be!!!

A swinger = non-judgmental, broad minded, and honest to name just a few.

If the safe-sex brigade where to shut the fuck up, or at least stop condemning, insulting and slagging off the bare-backers then maybe they will feel safe to be honest.

Think about it, imagine for a moment a fem has just said to a guy "only with a condom" and to that the guy says, "You dirty rotten, irresponsible, disease spreading whore, I'll never fuck a piece of scum like you for as long as I live!" if enough people where to react like that it wouldn't take long before people would be ashamed to say 'safe-sex'!

I'm beginning to think that "safe-sex only" = BULLY!!!

The fact of being an active swinger is everything that isn't safe-sex, with or without a condom, how some people can be so self-righteous and at the same time complete hypocrites is really quite incredible!

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By *andy muncherMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

"This subject will forever be 'done to death' because people will insist on trying to force their ideologies on other people, the fundamental cause of wars, both sides believing they are religiously RIGHT.

The fact that the safe-sex brigade will always try force their way on others is what causes people to lie about it thus compounding this major issue/belief that they have.

Everything about this subject is everything swinging is NOT supposed to be!!!

A swinger = non-judgmental, broad minded, and honest to name just a few.

If the safe-sex brigade where to shut the fuck up, or at least stop condemning, insulting and slagging off the bare-backers then maybe they will feel safe to be honest.

I'm beginning to think that "safe-sex only" = BULLY!!!

im sorry but but some of you say yo wear i i know better why hide

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple
over a year ago

North Cornwall

The fact that the safe-sex brigade will always try force their way on others is what causes people to lie about it thus compounding this major issue/belief that they have.

Everything about this subject is everything swinging is NOT supposed to be!!!

A swinger = non-judgmental, broad minded, and honest to name just a few.

If the safe-sex brigade where to shut the fuck up, or at least stop condemning, insulting and slagging off the bare-backers then maybe they will feel safe to be honest.

I'm beginning to think that "safe-sex only" = BULLY!!!

wow, what a load of twaddle lol. People lie to get what they want. It aint pretty or defensible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The world health organisations class wearing a condom for penatrive sex as "safer sex" as theres no such thing as safe sex. Is babreback sex worse than swallowing a guys sperm!!! Id say there isnt much difference, so whos right and whos wrong

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple
over a year ago

North Cornwall

"The world health organisations class wearing a condom for penatrive sex as "safer sex" as theres no such thing as safe sex. Is babreback sex worse than swallowing a guys sperm!!! Id say there isnt much difference, so whos right and whos wrong

prefer a nice chilled glass of rose myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The fact that the safe-sex brigade will always try force their way on others is what causes people to lie about it thus compounding this major issue/belief that they have.

Everything about this subject is everything swinging is NOT supposed to be!!!

A swinger = non-judgmental, broad minded, and honest to name just a few.

If the safe-sex brigade where to shut the fuck up, or at least stop condemning, insulting and slagging off the bare-backers then maybe they will feel safe to be honest.

I'm beginning to think that "safe-sex only" = BULLY!!!

I understand you fella

"wow, what a load of twaddle lol. People lie to get what they want. It aint pretty or defensible.

Years ago we were all told how asbestos was safe, it overtime found it's way everywhere. Now at great cost it's being removed due to its cancerous nature.

Imagine if you will what would happen if the scientific medical world discovered condoms were the cause of cervical cancer.

Would you then allow any male to insert this potential killer into you ?

Either you will stop swinging or eventually see those using condoms as equally dangerous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The fact that the safe-sex brigade will always try force their way on others is what causes people to lie about it thus compounding this major issue/belief that they have.

Everything about this subject is everything swinging is NOT supposed to be!!!

A swinger = non-judgmental, broad minded, and honest to name just a few.

If the safe-sex brigade where to shut the fuck up, or at least stop condemning, insulting and slagging off the bare-backers then maybe they will feel safe to be honest.

I'm beginning to think that "safe-sex only" = BULLY!!!

I understand you fella

wow, what a load of twaddle lol. People lie to get what they want. It aint pretty or defensible.

Years ago we were all told how asbestos was safe, it overtime found it's way everywhere. Now at great cost it's being removed due to its cancerous nature.

Imagine if you will what would happen if the scientific medical world discovered condoms were the cause of cervical cancer.

Would you then allow any male to insert this potential killer into you ?

Either you will stop swinging or eventually see those using condoms as equally dangerous."

Fuck me it's lucky they don't do an IQ test for joining this site as you'd have never got on and we'd be deprived of your witty insights.

You're trying to argue that bareback is ok as science MAY one day decide condoms are bad. That has to be the weakest argument I have ever heard but I'm sure it made sense to you...

Nothing is 100% safe but no matter how clean she looks or smells I'm wrapping up. I'm not going to claim safe sex feels better, bareback is so much better with someone you know and trust but safe sex feels so much better than an itchy dick.

Now go and play with the asbestos.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The fact that the safe-sex brigade will always try force their way on others is what causes people to lie about it thus compounding this major issue/belief that they have.

Everything about this subject is everything swinging is NOT supposed to be!!!

A swinger = non-judgmental, broad minded, and honest to name just a few.

If the safe-sex brigade where to shut the fuck up, or at least stop condemning, insulting and slagging off the bare-backers then maybe they will feel safe to be honest.

I'm beginning to think that "safe-sex only" = BULLY!!!

I understand you fella

wow, what a load of twaddle lol. People lie to get what they want. It aint pretty or defensible.

Years ago we were all told how asbestos was safe, it overtime found it's way everywhere. Now at great cost it's being removed due to its cancerous nature.

Imagine if you will what would happen if the scientific medical world discovered condoms were the cause of cervical cancer.

Would you then allow any male to insert this potential killer into you ?

Either you will stop swinging or eventually see those using condoms as equally dangerous.

Fuck me it's lucky they don't do an IQ test for joining this site as you'd have never got on and we'd be deprived of your witty insights.

You're trying to argue that bareback is ok as science MAY one day decide condoms are bad. That has to be the weakest argument I have ever heard but I'm sure it made sense to you...

Now go and play with the asbestos. "

Does asbestos cure the itching!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not sure, wouldn't Recommend sticking your dick in it though.

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By *ibrosMan
over a year ago

harrow

Several years ago, with a regular couple I would meet, we had drifted into the habit of sex without a condom.

It was several meets later that we had a conversation about her other partners and use of condoms. I was a bit horrified to learn that she there was another regular partner she would meet bareback and thought that he wasn't having sex with anyone else without a condom.

In my ignorant haze I had assumed I was the only one, as if that should have mattered. It was a wake up call. I haven't had sex without a condom since.

For safety, if you have several casual partners and one regular, you should always use a condom, else you are putting your regular partner at greater risk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hmmmm Safesex,

What exactly would you call safe sex ?

Is it only wearing a condom

Is oral included in this safe sex idea?

Do you go a further stage and wear mouth covers as well as kissing may lead to some diseases or other.

Just how far do you go to keep yourself safe ?

Personally I am a if it aint covered it aint going in me kind of gal.

But everyone to their own but I find it hypocritcal that we preach to our children all about safe sex and then we do the exact oppisite.

It's not necessarily the immediate partner that you are having the unsafe sex and taking risks with but the partners he/she has had and then the partners they have had etc etc

I guess this is why some people think that swinging is degrading to the human form and we should all be burnt at the stake.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Fuck me it's lucky they don't do an IQ test for joining this site as you'd have never got on and we'd be deprived of your witty insights.

You're trying to argue that bareback is ok as science MAY one day decide condoms are bad. That has to be the weakest argument I have ever heard but I'm sure it made sense to you...

Now go and play with the asbestos. "

Firstly, what argument ?

I gave an example, my example demonstrated how societies attitudes can change dramatically, especially towards their personal safety, hence the comparison made with asbestos - I am sorry that my analogy caused you such distress.

I have my own views towards safe sex and swingers formed from my own experiences being, I will no longer meet with them.

If you or anybody else here believes that the sti statistics seen quoted on the internet or here on these forums have the same relevance for swingers as they do for the rest of the population then you are all sadly mistaken.

Condoms do have their place, they do help prevent the spread of the majority of viruses that is unarguable, they don’t however have the same effectiveness, if any, when used in group play due to cross transference - Or would you also argue that only swingers that bareback contract/spread sti’s ?

Feel free to ask any condom manufacturer if their product designed for protection between two people has any benefits towards group play. - People here will be fascinated with any information you gain, many will then simply ignore it.

People can and will continue victimising those that they see as a threat, I’m also certain they believe it will keep them safe by doing so, why I will never understand. these people no doubt still believe that viruses/germs die the very second they leave the body - How dangerous of them

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple
over a year ago

North Cornwall

Ah... off the the local looney bin eh? lol

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

I get the impression that some people absolutely scream that condoms is the right and only way as some sort of psychological offset, some false sense of security.

A comparative argument one time was about wearing seat belts whereby many people where doing the 'your are a total moron if you don't wear a seat belt' whereas I'm inclined to think, no, driving like a twat and crashing is wrong thing to do.

So Mr No-Longer-On-Site, I believe you are right, the government, the retail industry etc. will sew seeds such that the general public will then profess the new belief whatever that may be to be the absolute right and only way

Personally I'm not trying to force one way or the other on people, its just that some of these attitudes that some people have are just so not in keeping with the swinging life-style

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over a year ago

Not driving like a twat doesn't stop other people driving like twats and crashing into you now does it?

No method is foolproof and 100% safe for instance I don't use any protection for oral so is it hypocritical of me to advocate condoms for regular sex? Probably, but you know we can't all be crazy risk takers and if it's a choice between wearing a condom or potentially catching HIV it really is a no brainer.

I'm not trying to be judgemental or force my values down anyones throat just find it kind of hard to understand the opposing viewpoint.

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

The point I was trying to make is that there isn't an apposing view point as such, at least I have not seen or heard anyone trying to hammer home bare-back as being the only and right way to go and if you don't go that way then you must be on a suicide mission or a 'no brainer'.

Some people seem to think they are safe if they use a condom. Some people think they are safe NOT using a condom. I would think its fair to say you might be safer with a condom. However, where using a condom creates a false sense of security (just like car seat belts) it has the potential to make things more risky in reality. How many safe-sex swingers wash their hands before moving from one person to the next?

Just consider what typically happens during a swing type sexual session. Multiple mouths, hands, sex toys actively transfer body fluids around multitude of people. While using a condom might reduce the risks it really is questionable as to how much!

There is a hell of a lot more to practicing 'safe-sex' than JUST using a condom... DO NOT be promiscuous is just one of them!

Some people insist on condoms and some do not, its a personal choice and thats all it is, there is no justification in ripping the shit out of people who choose to bare-back, its THEIR CHOICE and for people who think using a condom will keep them safe, well good for them, as they say 'ignorance is bliss'

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over a year ago

If I come across a profile with activities that I don't like - I'm on to the next one!

If in this day and age someone wants to post a picture of his bare dick up the crack of all his meets - and sorry I don't buy the "regular partner bs" then I ignore and on to the next one.

We're all adults here. Even if there was a law against bareback sex some would still break it - leave people to get on with living their lives how they see fit and enjoy your own!

"
hhhmmmm funny how you never passed on this one!

sigh

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By *adishcoupleCouple
over a year ago

ashington

We are new to this site, and flicking through the forum it is amazing how many bareback threads there are.

I'm not surprised you don't hear from people who do choose to bareback (either regularly or with a select few). A few good points have been raised (washing hands between partners is an excellent one!). But lets face it, MOST desieses are cureable, and no more than an inconveneince, if people weren't so judgemental about "barebackers" then they wouldn't feel the need to push themselves underground, and were there a more mature and less "holier than thou" attitude towards desieses then people owuld be much more open about them. Let me give an example, someone comes into work with a cold sore, you would never, ever judge them for that. You just wouldn't want to kiss them while they had it. But if someone has genital herpes, suddenly that is a huge taboo and shamefull, and you would never admit you had it because of the shame and judgement you would be subjected to. But why? Why does it matter which part of the body you have affected? Likewise if you had, say, chalmydia, and continued to have sex with others knowing you had it, you deserve everything you get. But then how many people still come into work with a cold? Or the beginnings of flu? Spreading it around knowing full well they had it? I know a cold is slightly different, you can't help catching one and it is easier to catch than an STI but you can not spread it around when you do have it.

The more deadly deseases, and lets be honest we are really only talking about HIV here, are different. I understand and appreciate that. HIV is a very fragile virus though, and actually quite hard to catch. There are some interesting studies on HIV infected couples and transference from one to the other, some very good reading available out there.

People do far riskier things every day than bareback safe without judgement, how many of you text while driving (more than will ever admit it I'll wager) for example?

I can't stand smoking. It looks gross, it makes me stink when people do it near me, it's unhealthy, it's expensive, it's unpleasant to be around, and people die regularly becuase of smoking related illness, FAR more than people with HIV and AIDS, yet there are still millions of smokers. Why are these people not subjected to the same level of judgement and prejudice? I would not cast judgement on a smoker and make them feel like they have no place in society any more than I would to someone who has bareback sex. I'd just ask them not to do it around me, or I'd wander off elswhere while they smoked. And I certainly wouldn't kiss them after they had had a fag because I can't stand the taste.

I'm not argueing for or against bareback, nor am I argueing for or against anything else. I just think that it's a bit unfair to cast such hard judgements on someone for what is their personal lifestyle choice.

We have all, more or less, had bareback sex at some point in our lives. Who we choose to do that with is our business. But engaging in this lifestyle is a risk, a calculated one, you can do things to protect yourself against desieses, but as has been pointed out, is there any point to condoms if you aren't going to change rubbers between partners, wash hands between partners, use a barrier when giving oral sex to a woman, having condoms on men when giving them oral, removing pubic hair completely or shielding yourself from that to prevent pubic lice being spread..? Condoms are a safer way of doing things, but we are still at risk using them. The point I'm making is please don't judge and flame people for making their own choices, because all that will happen is they vanish underground and you end up with what we have here, a situation where a subject is talked about all the time and only from one side.

Of course, the reason no one on here is standing up and saying "Yes I bareback regularly / occasionally / rarely / with people i trust" might be because they have all dropped dead from the million desieses they must have contracted?

I'm not argueing either way for or against bareback, nor am I going to say either way what we get upto in the bedroom because, frankly, it's none of anyone else's business and is between us as a couple and the people we choose to invite into the bedroom (so people looking for potential bareback partners, jog on).

I commend those with the courage to be honest about their activities though, if everyone felt they could be completely honest then it would be far easier for everyone else to make an informed choice. I don't want anyone to think I am having a go, your oppinions are your own and you are perfectly entitled to them, and it would be hugely hipocritical of me to tell someone they are wrong for feeling the way they do. But don't condem someone for having a different oppinion, just live and let live and don't loose sleep over what everyone else is doing! To the OP, if you feel that way, and won't see someone with bareback pics on their profile, that's your own choice. But is there a need to publicly tell everyone?

It's an interesting topic that will never go away, but lets face it, neither side is wrong or right. It's a preferance. Why judge for it?

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over a year ago

"The point I was trying to make is that there isn't an apposing view point as such, at least I have not seen or heard anyone trying to hammer home bare-back as being the only and right way to go and if you don't go that way then you must be on a suicide mission or a 'no brainer'.

There is a hell of a lot more to practicing 'safe-sex' than JUST using a condom... DO NOT be promiscuous is just one of them!

Well said, but why am I thinking "pearls before swine!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I come across a profile with activities that I don't like - I'm on to the next one!

If in this day and age someone wants to post a picture of his bare dick up the crack of all his meets - and sorry I don't buy the "regular partner bs" then I ignore and on to the next one.

We're all adults here. Even if there was a law against bareback sex some would still break it - leave people to get on with living their lives how they see fit and enjoy your own!

hhhmmmm funny how you never passed on this one!

sigh"

If you're too simple to understand the difference between commenting on an open forum and trawling individual profiles to comment on then anything I write here will sail over your heads!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" But lets face it, MOST desieses are cureable, and no more than an inconveneince,

Yes it is true that there are antibiotics and antiviral medication that can be taken, and thats all well and good if people go and get treated. Many dont have noticable symptoms, or wont go and get treatment, and left untreated STI's can cause long term health problems.

The herpes simplex virus will not go away, at best it will remain dormant, but will flare up intermittently. And you havent mentioned Hepatitis, which can be transmitted via bodily fluids, again there is a vaccine, but not many know their immunisation status and if left untreated can cause further health problems, which can be life threatening. I think liver failure and vital organs shutting down is a bit more than an inconvenience.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But you are right in that people will do a mental risk assessment to weigh up the pros and cons, and we all do things that potentially will cause us harm. Just do whatever works for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the only way not to catch anything is simple DONT DO IT how many of you give a blow job with a condom and how many of you kiss with a cover over your mouth if you dont then you are at risk even a amn having a wank then fingers you you is still at risk std is passed by lots of different ways as its pass in body fluids so next time you get that little cold sore ermmmm did you go down on someone never mind the next person you kiss it will be thier problem too . oh by the way i dont need slating for my opionion its just a thought that needs thinking about before we think do we just put a condom on for penitration only

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By *adishcoupleCouple
over a year ago

ashington

"the only way not to catch anything is simple DONT DO IT how many of you give a blow job with a condom and how many of you kiss with a cover over your mouth if you dont then you are at risk even a amn having a wank then fingers you you is still at risk std is passed by lots of different ways as its pass in body fluids so next time you get that little cold sore ermmmm did you go down on someone never mind the next person you kiss it will be thier problem too . oh by the way i dont need slating for my opionion its just a thought that needs thinking about before we think do we just put a condom on for penitration only

Well put.

Yes Hep is a problem too, there are lots of nasties out there. If people owuldbe more open about the problems and there was less of a taboo, then people would get tested more readily. Fear of judgement and reprisals I suspect is far more damaging than the act of bareback sex.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what i love most about most of these is the fact that alot of people will meet and insist on condoms but then give oral without? they still risk catching an sti, do people not think at all?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"what i love most about most of these is the fact that alot of people will meet and insist on condoms but then give oral without? they still risk catching an sti, do people not think at all?

I would give up sex before I used a condom for oral.. whats the point in that.. I know the risks and its one I am willing to take..

I have been asked once to give a bj with a condom on.. I refused.

Katie,x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ye i dont wear them for oral anyways lol x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"ye i dont wear them for oral anyways lol x"

I think most people on here do the same... as I say.. in all my years I have been asked once.. I actually had to ask him if he was serious.. as I could not see the point..

Katie. x

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

FADISHCOULPE - Brilliant post -

Archaic witch hunt - - - - -

It was always assumed that having/contracting an STI/STD was a direct result of being sexually promiscuous and so it follows that that person is a person of poor standards, a whore, a slut, a trollop, prostitute etc. etc. and its these pre-installed old-fashioned beliefs that manufacture the stigma associated with sexual infections as apposed to any other illness such as a common cold.

Welcome to Jurassic Swingers Dot Com

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

Jes you lot still discussing this.

Unless someone is forcing anyone to do anything, what difference does it make.

My next door neighbour can shag the whole neighbourhood bareback as far as I'm concerned. It does not impact on my life. (well it may make for some entertaining late night noises)

My next door neighbour could be shagging everyone with a condom, there is still no difference.

In the end it's the people you play with that impact on you. If you prefer condom then stick to what you want, if you want bareback stick to what you want.

The only possible cause for a public debate would be about someone purposefully going around infecting others on purpose. But those people ain't right in the head so no debate on here would effect their point of view.

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By *ittle-Miss-MuffetCouple
over a year ago

Chester / North Wales

"..Is babreback sex worse than swallowing a guys sperm!!! Id say there isnt much difference, so whos right and whos wrong

Actually there IS quite a massive difference statistically, but as you say, wearing a condom is only 'safer' sex. The only safe sex is abstinence, which on a swingers site is quite unlikely.

Everyone is free to make their own choice. Those that play bareback generally know the risk and accept it, and if they are not doing anyone one else any harm then who has the right to tell them otherwise?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never have, never will.

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By *untimes11Man
over a year ago

cardiff

My profile has a bareback pic on it but its from a year ago with someone i played with regulary at that time. If i do meets, i wear a condom.

No offence to some of the girls on this thread getting high and mighty about it, but its not only men who can spread diseases, women are just as capable of passing something on too. I always turn up with a pack, no way would i leave it up to the other person to provide condoms.

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By *sexymanMan
over a year ago

crawley

i think you will find almost all men if asked would wear a condom.

I get checked regular and wld never say no to using one if asked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There’s NO statistics to prove how safe or unsafe oral sex is, in most cases where transmission occurs, both oral and penetrative sex has taken place, and it’s always just assumed it’s been passed on by penetrative sex.

Pretty much the same as when smokers die they all count towards smoking related illnesses except when it’s a fatality, and as someone who used to input data for the NHS its amazing how they get to print this rubbish they call statistics, would be better described as guesswork

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its just all a matter of what level of risk you are prepared to take - if you feel bareback sex is worth the risk then go ahead, everyone is entitled to choice. Oral sex is less of a risk than penetrative sex, though not fail proof. Yes STI's can be contracted in any walks of life, you can catch an STI the first time you have sex if with an infected person, but the more you do things, the higher the risk. A person who smokes one cigarette a year is less likely to contract a smoking related illness than someone who smokes 50, but its not impossible.

The argument that its not that big a problem as its easily curable and antibiotics are easily available I dont uphold. Its not that great to be taking antibiotics constantly, and I think people should become a little more responsible. If you are prepared to pay for private health care and are prepared to fork out the cost for the constant supply of medication as well as medical assistance maybe that wouldnt be so bad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i agree, i got a pic on here with my ex girlfriend having sex when we was on here, still trying to figure out how to take her off.

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By *otswbabeCouple
over a year ago

north cornwall

only prob I have is the lack of honesty... each to their own. Oh for that perfect world....

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