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""I can't meet as I don't have any shoes" What the actual fuck is that for an excuse" | |||
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"Spare time for us is so rare, a married family with kids, umpteen projects & a business to run & a lack of baby sitters means we don't get much swinging time. Less than once a month When we do we like to plan & arrange a weekend & do as much as we can. So yet again we chatted away with many single (genuine non time-wasting as per profile males) & couples & arranged two meets for this weekend. Booked nice hotel & got in the mood. First chap cancels, we were rather surprised but at least he messaged early. Second chap who has been on here years & pestered for a meet messaged with a time and was supposed to arrive two hours later, he didn't he just left us waiting at the meet & couldn't be arsed to even message or text. Why oh why do people do it?? He was back on the site all night hours later. Then at the night we get the following from many more wasters: I'm coming to meet my wife I need to slip out while she's not looking. Are you both pissed because I am. Sorry I can't meet I don't have any shoes. I'm stood outside the hotel. Not ours mate! The best status we saw was someone saying may God ruin your meet you ignorant non replying bastards. He messaged us to meet, 180 miles away. So I think after 5 years were giving up. We've unlike most never left fab & returned but recently it's impossible to arrange anything. The odds on someone turning up must be 50-1. Had some good meets & some awesome people but the literal wankers really ruin it. We put so much time in just to be fucked about & ignored. Not happy!" I had a rather long discussion with the op of this post Idiots spoil it for the good guys about this he seemed to think the actions of others didn't effect the chances of him being successful my argument was te actions of others ruin the fun and lead to people giving up or taking brakes which narrows the odds on meeting a compatible couple or single woman . I'm sorry to hear your well planed out evening was ruined I think you should be able to say who let you down in a verify to but of coarse that would never happen as it would be abused by the same type of individuals who let others down at the last minute . | |||
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"Never happened to me. Clubs might be better for you. " Chams and Xtasia wouldn't have been far. But understand your frustration. I met someone who forgot to say was on call so had to disappear when is booked a day off. But most do what it says on the tin. | |||
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"Not all singles or timewasters I not one " Agreed, not all. Just everyone that we've arranged meets with over the last few months. | |||
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"Not all singles or timewasters I not one Agreed, not all. Just everyone that we've arranged meets with over the last few months. " could it be something you may be doing wrong, if this happens often...just a thought | |||
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"Not all singles or timewasters I not one Agreed, not all. Just everyone that we've arranged meets with over the last few months. could it be something you may be doing wrong, if this happens often...just a thought" Yeh we must be leaving alligators outside the hotel or something. | |||
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"Not all singles or timewasters I not one Agreed, not all. Just everyone that we've arranged meets with over the last few months. could it be something you may be doing wrong, if this happens often...just a thought Yeh we must be leaving alligators outside the hotel or something. " No rather your selection criteria......could be the problem...maybe as others say try other clubs, more than one way to skin a cat as the saying goes | |||
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" I had a rather long discussion with the op of this post Idiots spoil it for the good guys about this he seemed to think the actions of others didn't effect the chances of him being successful my argument was te actions of others ruin the fun and lead to people giving up or taking brakes which narrows the odds on meeting a compatible couple or single woman . " Episodes like this are always upsetting and prove that there are a lot of timewasters on the site, a fact which I've never doubted. Indeed, I've had my own fair share of no-shows both as a single guy and as part of a couple. But as for "narrowing the odds of meeting a compatible woman or couple" I'm not convinced. In spite of the fact that people leave the site or no longer meet single guys, there are still a good number who will continue to meet, and new couples and women joining the site all the time, so it doesn't necessarily mean that the available numbers are diminishing.. However the main point of my thread was to challenge the assumption that the conduct of others is solely responsible for guys' lack of success on the site, which, in my view, is seldom the case. | |||
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"We used to see a guy regularly. We were happy with club meets with him, but he pushed and pushed to become my main lover, and pushed to come to our house. I let my guard down and thought why not, might be nice to have a lover as opposed to an FB. So we invited him to our house. We arranged for kids to go to my mothers for the night, and had planned to cook dinner for him. 3 hours before he was due in our house he texted to say that he'd been at Wimbledon with his vanilla friends and they'd suggested going for a bite and a movie after the tennis, and said he didn't feel able to tell them he had plans that evening. He said he'd be with us by 11pm. It would take him a couple of hours to drive from West London, so we knew even 11pm was unlikely. We told him that was too late, which it was. We had kids and commitments the next day. That night was wasted babysitting. And it had been in the diary for about 3 weeks. When I gave him a piece of my mind, he told me he was sorry, but it was unfortunate, and in the swing scene even the best made pins can go wrong at the last minute. This was a waste of babysitting to us. We should have stuck to club meets with him, which is all that I'd ever wanted with him anyway. I do find some single guys don't understand was its like to have to plan your life round kids." t In my opinion this story just proves the guy in question didn't appreciate you or what he had with you I do hope you elbowed him after this incidence . | |||
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"We used to see a guy regularly. We were happy with club meets with him, but he pushed and pushed to become my main lover, and pushed to come to our house. I let my guard down and thought why not, might be nice to have a lover as opposed to an FB. So we invited him to our house. We arranged for kids to go to my mothers for the night, and had planned to cook dinner for him. 3 hours before he was due in our house he texted to say that he'd been at Wimbledon with his vanilla friends and they'd suggested going for a bite and a movie after the tennis, and said he didn't feel able to tell them he had plans that evening. He said he'd be with us by 11pm. It would take him a couple of hours to drive from West London, so we knew even 11pm was unlikely. We told him that was too late, which it was. We had kids and commitments the next day. That night was wasted babysitting. And it had been in the diary for about 3 weeks. When I gave him a piece of my mind, he told me he was sorry, but it was unfortunate, and in the swing scene even the best made pins can go wrong at the last minute. This was a waste of babysitting to us. We should have stuck to club meets with him, which is all that I'd ever wanted with him anyway. I do find some single guys don't understand was its like to have to plan your life round kids.t In my opinion this story just proves the guy in question didn't appreciate you or what he had with you I do hope you elbowed him after this incidence . " He was 'demoted' back to being someone we were happy to play with in a club. He didn't get get invited back, and he didn't dare suggest it again. The he left the swing scene. | |||
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"Spare time for us is so rare, a married family with kids, umpteen projects & a business to run & a lack of baby sitters means we don't get much swinging time. Less than once a month When we do we like to plan & arrange a weekend & do as much as we can. So yet again we chatted away with many single (genuine non time-wasting as per profile males) & couples & arranged two meets for this weekend. Booked nice hotel & got in the mood. First chap cancels, we were rather surprised but at least he messaged early. Second chap who has been on here years & pestered for a meet messaged with a time and was supposed to arrive two hours later, he didn't he just left us waiting at the meet & couldn't be arsed to even message or text. Why oh why do people do it?? He was back on the site all night hours later. Then at the night we get the following from many more wasters: I'm coming to meet my wife I need to slip out while she's not looking. Are you both pissed because I am. Sorry I can't meet I don't have any shoes. I'm stood outside the hotel. Not ours mate! The best status we saw was someone saying may God ruin your meet you ignorant non replying bastards. He messaged us to meet, 180 miles away. So I think after 5 years were giving up. We've unlike most never left fab & returned but recently it's impossible to arrange anything. The odds on someone turning up must be 50-1. Had some good meets & some awesome people but the literal wankers really ruin it. We put so much time in just to be fucked about & ignored. Not happy!" Go to a club...no hassle of arranging meets and always plenty of like minded people to play with...and even if no-one takes your fancy you can have an amazing time with each other in an erotic atmosphere | |||
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"100% show up from me. Last one was 2 and a half hours drive away and was just a social. If I say yes I will be there you can be 100% sure I will be" It seems the OP hah had similar reassurances... | |||
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""I can't meet as I don't have any shoes" What the actual fuck is that for an excuse " That's almost too embarrassing to post as an excuse - I'm sure fab admin might relax the name and shame rules for an excuse that bad! | |||
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""I can't meet as I don't have any shoes" What the actual fuck is that for an excuse That's almost too embarrassing to post as an excuse - I'm sure fab admin might relax the name and shame rules for an excuse that bad!" The sheer number of single guys mean you are bound to get arseholes. Don't judge us all. | |||
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"We like club meets but we like mmf's and it's no single males here on Saturdays & that's often our day. Think we're going to start looking for clubs out the area. " Saturday's are often a good day to find a single male due to the club situation - I've rarely had much success on a Saturday as all the clubs don't let us in The only meets I have on Saturdays are those where I arrange a meet with a couple or single lady in advance | |||
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"We had organised meet with single guy round to house, babysitter sorted etc. I (Jayne) dressed stockings, heels and not much else. He had told us he was coming after watching the match.... No show with a message next day apologising that he had got d*unk! Jon and I had fun so thought OK shit happens, he begs for another chance so couple months later when dates allow arrange babysitter again, dress up again, he messages he has left and is on his way and thanks us for meeting him then never arrives!!!!!!!! No 3rd chance!!!!! Jayne xx " Shocking! Hope you reported him to admin as a no show | |||
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"We had organised meet with single guy round to house, babysitter sorted etc. I (Jayne) dressed stockings, heels and not much else. He had told us he was coming after watching the match.... No show with a message next day apologising that he had got d*unk! Jon and I had fun so thought OK shit happens, he begs for another chance so couple months later when dates allow arrange babysitter again, dress up again, he messages he has left and is on his way and thanks us for meeting him then never arrives!!!!!!!! No 3rd chance!!!!! Jayne xx " Never give a second chance I have twice and both did exactly the same again. I'm now a one chance only person | |||
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"Maybe as you've been to clubs before arrange to meet there..then if they no show you're still out and can still have a good night. Shame you're too far for me..Mrs looks beautiful. Best of luck in whatever you decide. X" This is what we do. Too many time wasters so a club visit is preferred. | |||
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"Maybe you should pick guys who have both types of verifications. There are plenty of great blokes on here, unfortunately there are an equal number of time wasters. Potentially try a club, this could help. " dont matter on verifications... recently been finding more and more no shows even from well verified and people met before including repeat meets. op.. its a nightmare just lately x | |||
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"Spare time for us is so rare, a married family with kids, umpteen projects & a business to run & a lack of baby sitters means we don't get much swinging time. Less than once a month When we do we like to plan & arrange a weekend & do as much as we can. So yet again we chatted away with many single (genuine non time-wasting as per profile males) & couples & arranged two meets for this weekend. Booked nice hotel & got in the mood. First chap cancels, we were rather surprised but at least he messaged early. Second chap who has been on here years & pestered for a meet messaged with a time and was supposed to arrive two hours later, he didn't he just left us waiting at the meet & couldn't be arsed to even message or text. Why oh why do people do it?? He was back on the site all night hours later. Then at the night we get the following from many more wasters: I'm coming to meet my wife I need to slip out while she's not looking. Are you both pissed because I am. Sorry I can't meet I don't have any shoes. I'm stood outside the hotel. Not ours mate! The best status we saw was someone saying may God ruin your meet you ignorant non replying bastards. He messaged us to meet, 180 miles away. So I think after 5 years were giving up. We've unlike most never left fab & returned but recently it's impossible to arrange anything. The odds on someone turning up must be 50-1. Had some good meets & some awesome people but the literal wankers really ruin it. We put so much time in just to be fucked about & ignored. Not happy!" My 2p worth. So the couples you were messaging they turned up, cancelled, you weren't wanting a couple this weekend ? The first guy cancelled, things happen as you'll be aware being busy folk.. Second guy who knows ... All genders can and do , report block. It seems as the evening wore on your selection process( planning vetting chatting etc )went out of the window ..I'm not surprised you received those responses, the folks who are popular are already out there having fun, last minute can be exciting it can also be fraught with obstacles,. oh and you're not meant to post the contents of private messages .. Ive said it before if this no longer provides the fun I'm seeking I'd not be here.. | |||
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""I can't meet as I don't have any shoes" What the actual fuck is that for an excuse" hahahaha! | |||
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"100% show up from me. Last one was 2 and a half hours drive away and was just a social. If I say yes I will be there you can be 100% sure I will be" But they all say that. No one says it's a 50/50 chance of theme showing up.... | |||
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"100% show up from me. Last one was 2 and a half hours drive away and was just a social. If I say yes I will be there you can be 100% sure I will be But they all say that. No one says it's a 50/50 chance of theme showing up...." Exactly! It might be interesting to hear from a no-show who just bottled out, rather than a chorus of guys all claiming to be 100% reliable... | |||
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"As a single male who was meeting a woman tonight but now she's, "unlos" I feel your frustration..." What is "unlos" | |||
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"As a single male who was meeting a woman tonight but now she's, "unlos" I feel your frustration... What is "unlos"" User no longer on site Like going AWOL | |||
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"I think these single guy rants are ridiculous. The evidence is any group can be a no show, couples and single women fail to turn up without messaging. When l started l had anumber of no shows by women and couples so l know the pain and cost Single men have lives outside of fab and also need to make arrangements and organise meets. Not because we are married but because we have lives as well. " | |||
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"Spare time for us is so rare, a married family with kids, umpteen projects & a business to run & a lack of baby sitters means we don't get much swinging time. Less than once a month When we do we like to plan & arrange a weekend & do as much as we can. So yet again we chatted away with many single (genuine non time-wasting as per profile males) & couples & arranged two meets for this weekend. Booked nice hotel & got in the mood. First chap cancels, we were rather surprised but at least he messaged early. Second chap who has been on here years & pestered for a meet messaged with a time and was supposed to arrive two hours later, he didn't he just left us waiting at the meet & couldn't be arsed to even message or text. Why oh why do people do it?? He was back on the site all night hours later. Then at the night we get the following from many more wasters: I'm coming to meet my wife I need to slip out while she's not looking. Are you both pissed because I am. Sorry I can't meet I don't have any shoes. I'm stood outside the hotel. Not ours mate! The best status we saw was someone saying may God ruin your meet you ignorant non replying bastards. He messaged us to meet, 180 miles away. So I think after 5 years were giving up. We've unlike most never left fab & returned but recently it's impossible to arrange anything. The odds on someone turning up must be 50-1. Had some good meets & some awesome people but the literal wankers really ruin it. We put so much time in just to be fucked about & ignored. Not happy!" You know sometimes you get unexpected gifts? That is how you should view Fabswingers,it is total comedy genius..I've got no shoes..are you both pissed because I am etc etc...you couldn't make it up. For sex it's not so good but for a proper laugh you can't beat fab | |||
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"Yes I agree .. Women and couples are just as bad " I would genuinely expect many of the moody women/couple profiles are actually single men. I'm not saying that all women are innocent but I do believe it's not in the average woman's make up to play games like some men | |||
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"So I think after 5 years... The odds on someone turning up must be 50-1. " I'd be fucking pissed off. But I can't help but wonder why after 5 years you haven't found your own effective filter / selection process. I've had to pull out of one meet, well in advance because I was feeling quite low at the time. Apart from that I've never missed a meet and never had anyone call it off or fail to turn up. | |||
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"We like club meets but we like mmf's and it's no single males here on Saturdays & that's often our day. Think we're going to start looking for clubs out the area. " Try the Attic in Derby, they allow single males on a Saturday | |||
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"Yes I agree .. Women and couples are just as bad I would genuinely expect many of the moody women/couple profiles are actually single men. I'm not saying that all women are innocent but I do believe it's not in the average woman's make up to play games like some men" I appreciate your attempts at chivalry but these were genuine women and couples who l either ran into later or had verifications for the same night, sir knight. | |||
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"Yes I agree .. Women and couples are just as bad I would genuinely expect many of the moody women/couple profiles are actually single men. I'm not saying that all women are innocent but I do believe it's not in the average woman's make up to play games like some men I appreciate your attempts at chivalry but these were genuine women and couples who l either ran into later or had verifications for the same night, sir knight. " They are not attempts at chivalry hence I said not all women are innocent. Your frustration is palpable | |||
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"100% show up from me. Last one was 2 and a half hours drive away and was just a social. If I say yes I will be there you can be 100% sure I will be But they all say that. No one says it's a 50/50 chance of theme showing up.... Exactly! It might be interesting to hear from a no-show who just bottled out, rather than a chorus of guys all claiming to be 100% reliable..." Check my veris | |||
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"100% show up from me. Last one was 2 and a half hours drive away and was just a social. If I say yes I will be there you can be 100% sure I will be But they all say that. No one says it's a 50/50 chance of theme showing up.... Exactly! It might be interesting to hear from a no-show who just bottled out, rather than a chorus of guys all claiming to be 100% reliable... Check my veris" That misses my point altogether | |||
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""I can't meet as I don't have any shoes" What the actual fuck is that for an excuse" same as the buggies just fallen off the perch ffks | |||
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"Yes I agree .. Women and couples are just as bad I would genuinely expect many of the moody women/couple profiles are actually single men. I'm not saying that all women are innocent but I do believe it's not in the average woman's make up to play games like some men I appreciate your attempts at chivalry but these were genuine women and couples who l either ran into later or had verifications for the same night, sir knight. They are not attempts at chivalry hence I said not all women are innocent. Your frustration is palpable" My frustration is with people who appear to be white knights. I don't blame the players, l blame the game and changed my approach. These days I go to clubs and have a fun time and arrannge meets with people l meet at clubs, less grief. So saturdays BMFC was a blast. | |||
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"Spare time for us is so rare, a married family with kids, umpteen projects & a business to run & a lack of baby sitters means we don't get much swinging time. Less than once a month When we do we like to plan & arrange a weekend & do as much as we can. So yet again we chatted away with many single (genuine non time-wasting as per profile males) & couples & arranged two meets for this weekend. Okay I had a meet arranged with a couple this morning,(I think it was the male getting a kick out off it) gave me the address of where to go and only to be sent a message 30 mins later something has came up have to cancel and no reply back to want to re arrange? Messers everywhere! Was going to name and shame but what's the point? Booked nice hotel & got in the mood. First chap cancels, we were rather surprised but at least he messaged early. Second chap who has been on here years & pestered for a meet messaged with a time and was supposed to arrive two hours later, he didn't he just left us waiting at the meet & couldn't be arsed to even message or text. Why oh why do people do it?? He was back on the site all night hours later. Then at the night we get the following from many more wasters: I'm coming to meet my wife I need to slip out while she's not looking. Are you both pissed because I am. Sorry I can't meet I don't have any shoes. I'm stood outside the hotel. Not ours mate! The best status we saw was someone saying may God ruin your meet you ignorant non replying bastards. He messaged us to meet, 180 miles away. So I think after 5 years were giving up. We've unlike most never left fab & returned but recently it's impossible to arrange anything. The odds on someone turning up must be 50-1. Had some good meets & some awesome people but the literal wankers really ruin it. We put so much time in just to be fucked about & ignored. Not happy!" | |||
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"So I think after 5 years... The odds on someone turning up must be 50-1. I'd be fucking pissed off. But I can't help but wonder why after 5 years you haven't found your own effective filter / selection process. I've had to pull out of one meet, well in advance because I was feeling quite low at the time. Apart from that I've never missed a meet and never had anyone call it off or fail to turn up. " I had a meet arranged with the female part of the couple (so she said) to meet up this morning,20/30 mins after the meet was arranged she/he messaged and said somethings come up cannot make it? I said want to re-arrange? No reply deleted the message! What's the point in that? naming and shaming them wouldn't do any good! Messers! | |||
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"We wouldn't expect the whole forum to agree with our rant, it's based on our experiences over a long period of time. We've never been let down by a couple but we can honestly say for every 50 males you chat with who claim to be up for meeting only one will show & that's our experience. We do try and "select" the right people according to veris & their general messages but it doesn't seem to work for us. Thanks for your inputs & I appreciate as our experience tells us that not all are wankers but unfortunately it's hard for us to fish you genuine guys out. Would never have thought arranging an MMF would be so so difficult. It takes nothing to text or message here to cancel. I wish we could share the screen shots of some of the "comedy" " can yam apply? | |||
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"Sure, fire tails a message over. Any veris? " on my old profile I've inboxed | |||
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"Always have a Plan B, then when A fucks up you'll still have a good night. Maybe club / party nights might be worth considering?" Absolutely. Also go with the mindset that a meet is actually a bonus - you're away having quality time together as I'm sure that in itself is rare. | |||
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"We wouldn't expect the whole forum to agree with our rant, it's based on our experiences over a long period of time. We've never been let down by a couple but we can honestly say for every 50 males you chat with who claim to be up for meeting only one will show & that's our experience. We do try and "select" the right people according to veris & their general messages but it doesn't seem to work for us. Thanks for your inputs & I appreciate as our experience tells us that not all are wankers but unfortunately it's hard for us to fish you genuine guys out. Would never have thought arranging an MMF would be so so difficult. It takes nothing to text or message here to cancel. I wish we could share the screen shots of some of the "comedy" " Are you really getting no shows from 50 guys, verified by meets, for every one that shows? Maybe it's because the guys I chat to in clubs are those that do get out there and meet its not my experience of hearing what's going on - I and the guys I chat to do meet and do ok ok here but it's not easy finding couples or single women that do! | |||
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"Spare time for us is so rare, a married family with kids, umpteen projects & a business to run & a lack of baby sitters means we don't get much swinging time. Less than once a month When we do we like to plan & arrange a weekend & do as much as we can. So yet again we chatted away with many single (genuine non time-wasting as per profile males) & couples & arranged two meets for this weekend. Booked nice hotel & got in the mood. First chap cancels, we were rather surprised but at least he messaged early. Second chap who has been on here years & pestered for a meet messaged with a time and was supposed to arrive two hours later, he didn't he just left us waiting at the meet & couldn't be arsed to even message or text. Why oh why do people do it?? He was back on the site all night hours later. Then at the night we get the following from many more wasters: I'm coming to meet my wife I need to slip out while she's not looking. Are you both pissed because I am. Sorry I can't meet I don't have any shoes. I'm stood outside the hotel. Not ours mate! The best status we saw was someone saying may God ruin your meet you ignorant non replying bastards. He messaged us to meet, 180 miles away. So I think after 5 years were giving up. We've unlike most never left fab & returned but recently it's impossible to arrange anything. The odds on someone turning up must be 50-1. Had some good meets & some awesome people but the literal wankers really ruin it. We put so much time in just to be fucked about & ignored. Not happy!" No shoes? I'd walk barefoot over lego bricks and upturned plugs to meet you | |||
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"We wouldn't expect the whole forum to agree with our rant, it's based on our experiences over a long period of time. We've never been let down by a couple but we can honestly say for every 50 males you chat with who claim to be up for meeting only one will show & that's our experience. We do try and "select" the right people according to veris & their general messages but it doesn't seem to work for us. Thanks for your inputs & I appreciate as our experience tells us that not all are wankers but unfortunately it's hard for us to fish you genuine guys out. Would never have thought arranging an MMF would be so so difficult. It takes nothing to text or message here to cancel. I wish we could share the screen shots of some of the "comedy" Are you really getting no shows from 50 guys, verified by meets, for every one that shows? Maybe it's because the guys I chat to in clubs are those that do get out there and meet its not my experience of hearing what's going on - I and the guys I chat to do meet and do ok ok here but it's not easy finding couples or single women that do!" Actually I wondered that too. We've never ever had a no show. There's been 2 men I would regard as unreliable, but that didn't become apparent until much later into the friendship. And we've had a few that go silent as soon as we start arranging to meet, but we don't worry too much about that. Certainly we've never had anything to complain about regarding first meets. Though admittedly we don't meet very often. | |||
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"Yes I should defintly say about 50 to 1. Always up to meet & talk endlessly but drop one by one on the week & days up to the date. We do try plan A & B, that was 5pm & 8pm. We've always known one would drop out so have B as a backup. I'd have bet my car one of the two would have come this week. One day both will Rock up & tails will be destroyed " It's difficult to work things on this site sometimes - theirs plenty of guys on here who do meet and are reliable yet find it difficult to arrange meets and there's couples who are looking for guys who can't find ones that meet! Every time virtually I've tried on a Saturday night I've got nowhere apart from a prearranged meet with a couple I've already met I don't know how the site can improve things - maybe registered meets with the site so no shows are recorded? | |||
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