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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

How would you describe them? I feel like there are a lot of narcissists or sadists referring to them selves as alpha males looking for women/sluts/filthy whores to humiliate/fuck hard. In my opinion there is nothing alpha about that, I feel like alpha males have a certain presence about them, rarely need the ego boost of having to class them selves as alpha males, are confident, often perceived as threatening by other men, take risks, enjoy taking the lead and are happy in their own skin. These are not characteristics that make them disrespectful (on the contrary, as you don't tend to get far in the world by being a jerk) and tend to make them charming and very sexy.

But maybe I'm classifying it wrong! Anyone have any opinions on this?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Alpha Male sounds so Greek.

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Wouldn't know, never met one (him).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How would you describe them? I feel like there are a lot of narcissists or sadists referring to them selves as alpha males looking for women/sluts/filthy whores to humiliate/fuck hard. In my opinion there is nothing alpha about that, I feel like alpha males have a certain presence about them, rarely need the ego boost of having to class them selves as alpha males, are confident, often perceived as threatening by other men, take risks, enjoy taking the lead and are happy in their own skin. These are not characteristics that make them disrespectful (on the contrary, as you don't tend to get far in the world by being a jerk) and tend to make them charming and very sexy.

But maybe I'm classifying it wrong! Anyone have any opinions on this? "

Alpha males are just that ...the top level... If people can't handle that...just shows where they are in the pecking order.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am alpha male because I say. That's how it works doesn't it?

I'm not a Phycologist, but this place is s big pond of men. And I feel those that have to scream and shout and take everyone on in a pose off, are not alpha males. They're what I label posers. Look good in magazines, but would dull the shine of a chrome bumper.

Just my pennies worth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

there are quite a few misguided men who strut their way around the forums proclaiming themselves to be the 'alpha male' looking for sluts to do their bidding...

personally I take it all with a pinch of salt as most of them wouldn't have a clue how to follow it up in the bedroom

#alltalk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've owned a few alfas does that count.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"there are quite a few misguided men who strut their way around the forums proclaiming themselves to be the 'alpha male' looking for sluts to do their bidding...

personally I take it all with a pinch of salt as most of them wouldn't have a clue how to follow it up in the bedroom

#alltalk "

That's a safe opinion... Like me saying you wouldn't know how to handle a real man...its just opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone who describes himself as an alpha male probably isn't, sure some will be before people jump at me

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Mr N is an alpha male. Confident enough to treat women as social and intellectual equals and secure enough in his masculinity to not feel threatened by other men.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Anyone who describes himself as an alpha male probably isn't, sure some will be before people jump at me "

Mr N doesn't but I describe him as such.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone who describes himself as an alpha male probably isn't, sure some will be before people jump at me "

definitely. Its the same type who claim to be a Dom and think that just means pounding hard over and over.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"there are quite a few misguided men who strut their way around the forums proclaiming themselves to be the 'alpha male' looking for sluts to do their bidding...

personally I take it all with a pinch of salt as most of them wouldn't have a clue how to follow it up in the bedroom

#alltalk

That's a safe opinion... Like me saying you wouldn't know how to handle a real man...its just opinion"

its my opinion...and it is based on fact not heresay so I will stick with it thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"there are quite a few misguided men who strut their way around the forums proclaiming themselves to be the 'alpha male' looking for sluts to do their bidding...

personally I take it all with a pinch of salt as most of them wouldn't have a clue how to follow it up in the bedroom

#alltalk

That's a safe opinion... Like me saying you wouldn't know how to handle a real man...its just opinion

its my opinion...and it is based on fact not heresay so I will stick with it thanks"

Fact only as far as what you can type... The real world is different

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"there are quite a few misguided men who strut their way around the forums proclaiming themselves to be the 'alpha male' looking for sluts to do their bidding...

personally I take it all with a pinch of salt as most of them wouldn't have a clue how to follow it up in the bedroom

#alltalk

That's a safe opinion... Like me saying you wouldn't know how to handle a real man...its just opinion

its my opinion...and it is based on fact not heresay so I will stick with it thanks

Fact only as far as what you can type... The real world is different"

You again? Your a good act but you've been on far to long. I believe you, your an alpha male.

The question was what proves an alpha male. I think actions speak louder than words (or text)

But your now going to shout how you can show a girl with hard fuckin. I don't think that proves your point. It would prove mine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"there are quite a few misguided men who strut their way around the forums proclaiming themselves to be the 'alpha male' looking for sluts to do their bidding...

personally I take it all with a pinch of salt as most of them wouldn't have a clue how to follow it up in the bedroom

#alltalk

That's a safe opinion... Like me saying you wouldn't know how to handle a real man...its just opinion

its my opinion...and it is based on fact not heresay so I will stick with it thanks

Fact only as far as what you can type... The real world is different"

if you are putting yourself forward as an alpha male, I wouldn't bother...the green arrow is very telling

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"there are quite a few misguided men who strut their way around the forums proclaiming themselves to be the 'alpha male' looking for sluts to do their bidding...

personally I take it all with a pinch of salt as most of them wouldn't have a clue how to follow it up in the bedroom

#alltalk

That's a safe opinion... Like me saying you wouldn't know how to handle a real man...its just opinion

its my opinion...and it is based on fact not heresay so I will stick with it thanks

Fact only as far as what you can type... The real world is different"

See personally I would not have classified you (from your profile and online presence only) as alpha at all. But then everyone has different classifications of this so I find it a very interesting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Repeated self declaration of superiority and dominance gives off a whiff of desperation in my experience. But hey, if there was a lack of variety, wouldn't life be boring?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone who describes himself as an alpha male probably isn't, sure some will be before people jump at me

Mr N doesn't but I describe him as such."

According to some on here,the second he declares he is an alpha male he isn't one. I don't understand how that works.

Is it just alpha males who have to keep their identity a secret,or let others tell him what he is?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lol no

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm


"there are quite a few misguided men who strut their way around the forums proclaiming themselves to be the 'alpha male' looking for sluts to do their bidding...

personally I take it all with a pinch of salt as most of them wouldn't have a clue how to follow it up in the bedroom

#alltalk "

Sluts to do there bidding I'm laughing my head off

If a girl is a slut she's in control looking for a guy strong enough secure enough to support her in her desire to behave in a certain way .

Slut doing as she's told OK but only if it turns her on if it doesn't then just like with any other women it ain't going to happen .

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

alpha male

noun

.

A tool that will do anything to be the center of attention and be the dominant male. A phony act insecure people put on.

A perfect example of an alpha male or (toolbag) would be Fonzzy on happy days.

.

The dominant male animal in a particular group.

"two of them trotted over to greet the alpha male, a black wolf with a greying muzzle"

a man tending to assume a dominant or domineering role in social or professional situations.

"most alpha males need to control the women in their lives"

.

The alpha male is an act that is performed by males usually in their teens and twenties who act tough, are loud, and have to be the center of attention or they feel insecure.

35yr old alpha male at the bar,"I'm bald, fat, I make £10 an hour and I work a job I hate...what are you looking at? Do you want to fight? I need to tear a new asshole today because my boss ripped me an new one for burning the fries at Burger King and I need to take it out on someone."

.

*shrugs*

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Anyone who describes himself as an alpha male probably isn't, sure some will be before people jump at me

Mr N doesn't but I describe him as such.

According to some on here,the second he declares he is an alpha male he isn't one. I don't understand how that works.

Is it just alpha males who have to keep their identity a secret,or let others tell him what he is?"

Is it not a bit like a super smart person, if you constantly need to prove your self and tell others how amazingly intelligent you are, it's probably more to do with insecurities than intelligence. I would assume being classed as an "alpha" male isn't very important if you're secure in your self and you wouldn't need to contemplate it to much. I don't think it's as simple as "anyone who IS alpha would never say they were" but if it's accompanied by putting other people down, degrading women and feeling superior in most aspects, that screams insecurities to me rather than high status...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"alpha male

noun

.

A tool that will do anything to be the center of attention and be the dominant male. A phony act insecure people put on.

A perfect example of an alpha male or (toolbag) would be Fonzzy on happy days.

.

The dominant male animal in a particular group.

"two of them trotted over to greet the alpha male, a black wolf with a greying muzzle"

a man tending to assume a dominant or domineering role in social or professional situations.

"most alpha males need to control the women in their lives"

.

The alpha male is an act that is performed by males usually in their teens and twenties who act tough, are loud, and have to be the center of attention or they feel insecure.

35yr old alpha male at the bar,"I'm bald, fat, I make £10 an hour and I work a job I hate...what are you looking at? Do you want to fight? I need to tear a new asshole today because my boss ripped me an new one for burning the fries at Burger King and I need to take it out on someone."

.

*shrugs*"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Real women know what a real alpha male is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"there are quite a few misguided men who strut their way around the forums proclaiming themselves to be the 'alpha male' looking for sluts to do their bidding...

personally I take it all with a pinch of salt as most of them wouldn't have a clue how to follow it up in the bedroom

#alltalk

Sluts to do there bidding I'm laughing my head off

If a girl is a slut she's in control looking for a guy strong enough secure enough to support her in her desire to behave in a certain way .

Slut doing as she's told OK but only if it turns her on if it doesn't then just like with any other women it ain't going to happen ."

I know that and you know that but what I meant was there are many deluded men on here who think what I wrote is how you treat women and are therefore definitely not 'alpha males'

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By *ubbykittenWoman
over a year ago

Kent


"Real women know what a real alpha male is "

...and also what they aren't! Too much talking about it and not enough simply being!

I will leave everyone on this forum to work out who belongs to which camp!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Real women know what a real alpha male is "

You don't seem to have had any meets though so does that mean there are no real women on here??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can say with confidence I was alpha when I was in my twenties to 30s.

Maybe if I look back at myself this age in 10 yrs time I might think the same.

I can look around at my friends some are alpha some are certainly not. But those alphas know where we are I a 'pecking order'. We didn't have to tell each other.

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By *hoenixcouplexxCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"How would you describe them? I feel like there are a lot of narcissists or sadists referring to them selves as alpha males looking for women/sluts/filthy whores to humiliate/fuck hard. In my opinion there is nothing alpha about that, I feel like alpha males have a certain presence about them, rarely need the ego boost of having to class them selves as alpha males, are confident, often perceived as threatening by other men, take risks, enjoy taking the lead and are happy in their own skin. These are not characteristics that make them disrespectful (on the contrary, as you don't tend to get far in the world by being a jerk) and tend to make them charming and very sexy.

But maybe I'm classifying it wrong! Anyone have any opinions on this? "

I think you hit the nail on the head.

Mrs XxX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this post is great, can we have who for misogynists, racists and every other undesirable trait next to get them to revel themselves too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"this post is great, can we have who for misogynists, racists and every other undesirable trait next to get them to revel themselves too"

Your right...can we line up the self righteous and needy people while were there...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How would you describe them? I feel like there are a lot of narcissists or sadists referring to them selves as alpha males looking for women/sluts/filthy whores to humiliate/fuck hard. In my opinion there is nothing alpha about that, I feel like alpha males have a certain presence about them, rarely need the ego boost of having to class them selves as alpha males, are confident, often perceived as threatening by other men, take risks, enjoy taking the lead and are happy in their own skin. These are not characteristics that make them disrespectful (on the contrary, as you don't tend to get far in the world by being a jerk) and tend to make them charming and very sexy.

But maybe I'm classifying it wrong! Anyone have any opinions on this? "

Sexually I tend to deviate towards alpha dominant men. However, I am unable to describe what it is that makes these men alpha. It's just an aura about them I suppose. I do agree with you that there are a lot of men who say they are alpha or say they are Dom, and this is not necesarily true. All the alpha men I know naturally have that respect without having to tell everybody what they are. Anybody who needs to shout about how alpha they are or needs to tell everybody that they are a Dom, I do wonder why they need to tell everybody. Is it because they have failed to make it obvious?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought single males didn't stand a chance getting a meet in here. Now it appears Alpha males chances are slim too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Alpha Male sounds so Greek. "
.. alpha male sounds so last year. ...

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm


"there are quite a few misguided men who strut their way around the forums proclaiming themselves to be the 'alpha male' looking for sluts to do their bidding...

personally I take it all with a pinch of salt as most of them wouldn't have a clue how to follow it up in the bedroom

#alltalk

Sluts to do there bidding I'm laughing my head off

If a girl is a slut she's in control looking for a guy strong enough secure enough to support her in her desire to behave in a certain way .

Slut doing as she's told OK but only if it turns her on if it doesn't then just like with any other women it ain't going to happen .

I know that and you know that but what I meant was there are many deluded men on here who think what I wrote is how you treat women and are therefore definitely not 'alpha males'

"

I know what you meant just could not resist putting the record straight for the Neanderthals your post is talking about .come to think of it that's a insult to the long dead Neanderthals as the latest research shows they had a bigger brain than your average modern man .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Real women know what a real alpha male is

You don't seem to have had any meets though so does that mean there are no real women on here??"

You walked right into that one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My opinion and how I would describe an alpha is a natural leader, simple as that. Confident, dominant when they need to be and a protector.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Alpha males are just that ...the top level... If people can't handle that...just shows where they are in the pecking order."

Men who are naturally alpha (whether sexually or otherwise), just automatically have their place 'at the top level', and everybody naturally respects them as being alpha. They don't tell everybody that they are Alpha, because it is obvious. And with these naturally dominant men, there are no problems of people not being to 'handle it'.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Anyone who describes himself as an alpha male probably isn't, sure some will be before people jump at me

Mr N doesn't but I describe him as such.

According to some on here,the second he declares he is an alpha male he isn't one. I don't understand how that works.

Is it just alpha males who have to keep their identity a secret,or let others tell him what he is?"

You mean in the same way we have to let men tell us what we find acceptable and feminine? Yes .

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Love the saying, "last thing to discover water would be fish."

Perspective is such an odd concept.

Knowledge comes from a single perspective, wisdom from multiple perspectives....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A male is only an Alpha male when another person or other people regard him as an Alphs male. Nominating yourself as an Alpha male just makes it a wish, not a fact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A male is only an Alpha male when another person or other people regard him as an Alphs male. Nominating yourself as an Alpha male just makes it a wish, not a fact."

You've summed it up in 2 sentences

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"A male is only an Alpha male when another person or other people regard him as an Alphs male. Nominating yourself as an Alpha male just makes it a wish, not a fact."

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By *herbert fountainWoman
over a year ago

Hanley


"there are quite a few misguided men who strut their way around the forums proclaiming themselves to be the 'alpha male' looking for sluts to do their bidding...

personally I take it all with a pinch of salt as most of them wouldn't have a clue how to follow it up in the bedroom

#alltalk

Sluts to do there bidding I'm laughing my head off

If a girl is a slut she's in control looking for a guy strong enough secure enough to support her in her desire to behave in a certain way .

Slut doing as she's told OK but only if it turns her on if it doesn't then just like with any other women it ain't going to happen ."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A male is only an Alpha male when another person or other people regard him as an Alphs male. Nominating yourself as an Alpha male just makes it a wish, not a fact."
.....exactly. ...the self proclaimed alpha's, especially those "without portfolio" have a distinctive hollow ring to them. ..

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills


"A male is only an Alpha male when another person or other people regard him as an Alphs male. Nominating yourself as an Alpha male just makes it a wish, not a fact......exactly. ...the self proclaimed alpha's, especially those "without portfolio" have a distinctive hollow ring to them. .."

This made me smile....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've never described myself as one, but then I rarely compliment myself. I have been described as alpha by women at times, sometimes directly as a compliment, sometimes very backhanded like "You scare me a little sometimes" or "You know when we first met I thought you looked like a murderer" :-S

But generally I don't think I fit the bill. Yes I can be dominant at times, but ultimately I don't especially want to in any massive way. Being dominant all the time is just a bit dull. If I'd wanted that I'd have picked a very different women to L.

For me, I want a woman who yes, knows how to take a good session and is eager to please. But who brings a lot to the table herself and is worthy of respect which is always readily given.

A Clara Oswald to my 12th doctor

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By *at-cWoman
over a year ago

Ballyshannon

I would say I prefer alpha men but lately I think 'primal' in the sexual sense is also part of what I find attractive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How would you describe them? I feel like there are a lot of narcissists or sadists referring to them selves as alpha males looking for women/sluts/filthy whores to humiliate/fuck hard. In my opinion there is nothing alpha about that, I feel like alpha males have a certain presence about them, rarely need the ego boost of having to class them selves as alpha males, are confident, often perceived as threatening by other men, take risks, enjoy taking the lead and are happy in their own skin. These are not characteristics that make them disrespectful (on the contrary, as you don't tend to get far in the world by being a jerk) and tend to make them charming and very sexy.

But maybe I'm classifying it wrong! Anyone have any opinions on this? "

I think you have it spot on. Unfortunately these men are few and far between.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A male is only an Alpha male when another person or other people regard him as an Alphs male. Nominating yourself as an Alpha male just makes it a wish, not a fact.

You've summed it up in 2 sentences "

Thank you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A male is only an Alpha male when another person or other people regard him as an Alphs male. Nominating yourself as an Alpha male just makes it a wish, not a fact.

"

Thank you

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff

Guys proclaiming to be alpha seem to spout loads of shit they've read on returnofkings or some other bullshit redpill site.They are probably beta fantasists still living at home with their mothers..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A male is only an Alpha male when another person or other people regard him as an Alphs male. Nominating yourself as an Alpha male just makes it a wish, not a fact......exactly. ...the self proclaimed alpha's, especially those "without portfolio" have a distinctive hollow ring to them. .."

What do you mean by 'without portfolio'?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Alfalfa mail?someone sending letter to a forage crop?????

Well it's no dafter than some of the other 'posts' on here!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought being an alpha male was about confidence?

Genuine alphas probably wouldn't feel any need to proclaim it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I thought being an alpha male was about confidence?

Genuine alphas probably wouldn't feel any need to proclaim it."

Well said ! !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"there are quite a few misguided men who strut their way around the forums proclaiming themselves to be the 'alpha male' looking for sluts to do their bidding...

personally I take it all with a pinch of salt as most of them wouldn't have a clue how to follow it up in the bedroom

#alltalk

That's a safe opinion... Like me saying you wouldn't know how to handle a real man...its just opinion

its my opinion...and it is based on fact not heresay so I will stick with it thanks"
Dodge us Alpha males then.....him ...You only have to look around the site to self class yourself as an alpha

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By *emplarWarriorMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

Alpha males, hahahahahaha

If they truly thought so highly of themselves they wouldn't try to prove it all the time.

They want/need constant validation and when they don't get it their "alpha" behavior comes out and they become aggressive in a desperate attempt to calm their insecurity.

I've yet to meet one that didn't have some lingering issues from the childhood regarding feeling inadequate.

But rest assure, their true nature will show through whatever veils they try to hide behind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I met one

He was an arrogant control freak and I ended up telling him to GTF!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A male is only an Alpha male when another person or other people regard him as an Alphs male. Nominating yourself as an Alpha male just makes it a wish, not a fact......exactly. ...the self proclaimed alpha's, especially those "without portfolio" have a distinctive hollow ring to them. ..

What do you mean by 'without portfolio'?"
...its kinda like calling yourself a gang leader....With no obvious sign of a gang...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a Beta Male, still need testing....ladies apply within

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By *uerido55Man
over a year ago

Manchester


"I met one

He was an arrogant control freak and I ended up telling him to GTF!"

I rather think you met an arrogant control freak who thought that was how alpha males should behave.

A true alpha male wouldn't need to be told to GTF because you probably wouldn't want him to GTF because he wouldn't cause you to feel like telling him to GTF!

Just my 2 pennerth! Alf.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Freud said that a man needed to objectify a woman during the sex act to separate her from his mother.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Freud said that a man needed to objectify a woman during the sex act to separate her from his mother. "

To be fair he said a lot of bullshit x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He did, but then again some people would say that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Alpha Male sounds so Greek. "

Nothing wrong with Greek

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

These threads amuse me. I am waiting for a woman to start a thread that says 'To be a true, evil despot and psychopathic drug baron, you must treat women and children with care and respect. Sadam Hussein was not a real evil despot, nor Carlos Escobar a real drug baron, they were just wannabees". I will then watch the white knights fall over themselves to agree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mr N is an alpha male. Confident enough to treat women as social and intellectual equals and secure enough in his masculinity to not feel threatened by other men."

i was thinking of something like that, and also how the OP describes them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Freud said that a man needed to objectify a woman during the sex act to separate her from his mother. "

this is quite interesting, although i've never wanted to fuck my dad so maybe i don't get it.

but some people do have mummy fetishes and want to fuck their mum, or talk about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a Beta Male, still need testing....ladies apply within "

Would you like a rating of different categories?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I thought being an alpha male was about confidence?

Genuine alphas probably wouldn't feel any need to proclaim it."

It's a pecking order. Other men naturally fall behind an alpha male,all the time plotting to kill him and take his place

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I thought being an alpha male was about confidence?

Genuine alphas probably wouldn't feel any need to proclaim it.

It's a pecking order. Other men naturally fall behind an alpha male,all the time plotting to kill him and take his place "

I do think of myself at the top of the pecking order...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What is all the alpha male pish....what kind of twat actually describes themselves in such a way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How would you describe them? I feel like there are a lot of narcissists or sadists referring to them selves as alpha males looking for women/sluts/filthy whores to humiliate/fuck hard. In my opinion there is nothing alpha about that, I feel like alpha males have a certain presence about them, rarely need the ego boost of having to class them selves as alpha males, are confident, often perceived as threatening by other men, take risks, enjoy taking the lead and are happy in their own skin. These are not characteristics that make them disrespectful (on the contrary, as you don't tend to get far in the world by being a jerk) and tend to make them charming and very sexy.

But maybe I'm classifying it wrong! Anyone have any opinions on this? "

I think you already nailed it really.

Alpha male should describe those primal traits like leadership, physical strength and respect. I don't agree that the top dogs in modern society are necessarily alpha males as we have a (relatively) non- violent society that surpresses those primal instincts. I'd imagine a lot of builders are probably more alpha than politicians for example.

Unfortunately, as with any positive label - it gets hijacked by people that it doesn't apply to. So guys calling themselves it need to be taken with a handful of salt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I thought being an alpha male was about confidence?

Genuine alphas probably wouldn't feel any need to proclaim it.

It's a pecking order. Other men naturally fall behind an alpha male,all the time plotting to kill him and take his place

I do think of myself at the top of the pecking order..."

but actual alpha males have no need to proclaim it...

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By *ubbykittenWoman
over a year ago

Kent


"I thought being an alpha male was about confidence?

Genuine alphas probably wouldn't feel any need to proclaim it.

It's a pecking order. Other men naturally fall behind an alpha male,all the time plotting to kill him and take his place

I do think of myself at the top of the pecking order..."

Yet you started another thread asking why people think you are cocky????????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll be my own man thanks. I'm not sure I need a label for validation.

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By *uerido55Man
over a year ago

Manchester


"What is all the alpha male pish....what kind of twat actually describes themselves in such a way"

A "genuine alpha twat"!

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By *uerido55Man
over a year ago

Manchester


"Freud said that a man needed to objectify a woman during the sex act to separate her from his mother.

To be fair he said a lot of bullshit x"

He also advertised dog food with a bloodhound!

Oh! Not that Freud!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Freud said that a man needed to objectify a woman during the sex act to separate her from his mother.

To be fair he said a lot of bullshit x"

I think he made a lot of sense. He was also a huge head which is where the jibberish comes from!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How would you describe them? I feel like there are a lot of narcissists or sadists referring to them selves as alpha males looking for women/sluts/filthy whores to humiliate/fuck hard. In my opinion there is nothing alpha about that, I feel like alpha males have a certain presence about them, rarely need the ego boost of having to class them selves as alpha males, are confident, often perceived as threatening by other men, take risks, enjoy taking the lead and are happy in their own skin. These are not characteristics that make them disrespectful (on the contrary, as you don't tend to get far in the world by being a jerk) and tend to make them charming and very sexy.

But maybe I'm classifying it wrong! Anyone have any opinions on this? "

I think that's a suitable description... of TiG

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By *piritsonfabCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"How would you describe them? I feel like there are a lot of narcissists or sadists referring to them selves as alpha males looking for women/sluts/filthy whores to humiliate/fuck hard. In my opinion there is nothing alpha about that, I feel like alpha males have a certain presence about them, rarely need the ego boost of having to class them selves as alpha males, are confident, often perceived as threatening by other men, take risks, enjoy taking the lead and are happy in their own skin. These are not characteristics that make them disrespectful (on the contrary, as you don't tend to get far in the world by being a jerk) and tend to make them charming and very sexy.

But maybe I'm classifying it wrong! Anyone have any opinions on this?

Sexually I tend to deviate towards alpha dominant men. However, I am unable to describe what it is that makes these men alpha. It's just an aura about them I suppose. I do agree with you that there are a lot of men who say they are alpha or say they are Dom, and this is not necesarily true. All the alpha men I know naturally have that respect without having to tell everybody what they are. Anybody who needs to shout about how alpha they are or needs to tell everybody that they are a Dom, I do wonder why they need to tell everybody. Is it because they have failed to make it obvious?"

Lol....exactly. a real Dom doesn't need to tell anyone. Ita obvious to anyone looking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some talk shite .

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I know that Freud had a long running dispute with his daughter about the dog food ads.

It was a Freud Food Feud.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I thought being an alpha male was about confidence?

Genuine alphas probably wouldn't feel any need to proclaim it.

It's a pecking order. Other men naturally fall behind an alpha male,all the time plotting to kill him and take his place

I do think of myself at the top of the pecking order..."

Curious as to how 'being top of the pecking order' translates to human beings and the swing scene. In what way are you 'top of the pecking order'?Does this mean you get first refusal of women sexually, the way an alpha male might in the animal kingdom? Does being 'top of the pecking order' mean that other men get out of your way to allow you first pickings of the ladies? What does it actually mean to you when you say that about yourself?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I thought being an alpha male was about confidence?

Genuine alphas probably wouldn't feel any need to proclaim it.

It's a pecking order. Other men naturally fall behind an alpha male,all the time plotting to kill him and take his place

I do think of myself at the top of the pecking order..."

Pa ha ha ha. You're funny fella.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I thought being an alpha male was about confidence?

Genuine alphas probably wouldn't feel any need to proclaim it.

It's a pecking order. Other men naturally fall behind an alpha male,all the time plotting to kill him and take his place

I do think of myself at the top of the pecking order..."
But you seem to interest no one.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How would you describe them? I feel like there are a lot of narcissists or sadists referring to them selves as alpha males looking for women/sluts/filthy whores to humiliate/fuck hard. In my opinion there is nothing alpha about that, I feel like alpha males have a certain presence about them, rarely need the ego boost of having to class them selves as alpha males, are confident, often perceived as threatening by other men, take risks, enjoy taking the lead and are happy in their own skin. These are not characteristics that make them disrespectful (on the contrary, as you don't tend to get far in the world by being a jerk) and tend to make them charming and very sexy.

But maybe I'm classifying it wrong! Anyone have any opinions on this?

Alpha males are just that ...the top level... If people can't handle that...just shows where they are in the pecking order."

Ah but there is a world of difference between thinking your an alpha male and being an alpha male, in my experience men who have two point out they are alpha males usually aren't

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By *hoenixcouplexxCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"Most talk shite . "

Corrected that for you

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By *ungBlackTopMan
over a year ago

salford

OP is right, an alpha male doesn't need to tell you he's alpha it's just presumed by his aura and given the status by others not by himself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Op ... Can you describe what kind of woman goes for these alpha males?

Also do they bareback

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most talk shite .

Corrected that for you "

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By *iggles and BeardyCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

Lol alpha males... Know a few who claim to be, but only thing they seem to have in common are. A white knight complex and an ability to agree with anything a woman says, if it gets there dick wet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lol alpha males... Know a few who claim to be, but only thing they seem to have in common are. A white knight complex and an ability to agree with anything a woman says, if it gets there dick wet.

"

That's a social justice warrior!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How would you describe them? I feel like there are a lot of narcissists or sadists referring to them selves as alpha males looking for women/sluts/filthy whores to humiliate/fuck hard. In my opinion there is nothing alpha about that, I feel like alpha males have a certain presence about them, rarely need the ego boost of having to class them selves as alpha males, are confident, often perceived as threatening by other men, take risks, enjoy taking the lead and are happy in their own skin. These are not characteristics that make them disrespectful (on the contrary, as you don't tend to get far in the world by being a jerk) and tend to make them charming and very sexy.

But maybe I'm classifying it wrong! Anyone have any opinions on this? "

You have sort of hit the nail on the head.

To make it simple. An alpha male knows they are. Doesn't think they know, try's to be or talks about being one. They simply just are. You will know it when you meet one from just their presence.

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

Alpha, beta, gamma, delta,

In this heat I don't arf swelter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How would you describe them? I feel like there are a lot of narcissists or sadists referring to them selves as alpha males looking for women/sluts/filthy whores to humiliate/fuck hard. In my opinion there is nothing alpha about that, I feel like alpha males have a certain presence about them, rarely need the ego boost of having to class them selves as alpha males, are confident, often perceived as threatening by other men, take risks, enjoy taking the lead and are happy in their own skin. These are not characteristics that make them disrespectful (on the contrary, as you don't tend to get far in the world by being a jerk) and tend to make them charming and very sexy.

But maybe I'm classifying it wrong! Anyone have any opinions on this? "
I'm filthy dirty alpha male but also a gent and very thoughtful

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff

In nature, all dominant, alpha males are head of a family, a clan. That's it. That's the whole point of being an alpha male.

Not head of a family unit? Lone wolf? Looking to attract mates? Looking for NSA fun? Then you are the total opposite of every example of an alpha male. Funny.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have a read up on the male Z

I hope I find my male z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've owned a few alfas does that count. "
oh now your talking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How would you describe them? I feel like there are a lot of narcissists or sadists referring to them selves as alpha males looking for women/sluts/filthy whores to humiliate/fuck hard. In my opinion there is nothing alpha about that, I feel like alpha males have a certain presence about them, rarely need the ego boost of having to class them selves as alpha males, are confident, often perceived as threatening by other men, take risks, enjoy taking the lead and are happy in their own skin. These are not characteristics that make them disrespectful (on the contrary, as you don't tend to get far in the world by being a jerk) and tend to make them charming and very sexy.

But maybe I'm classifying it wrong! Anyone have any opinions on this? "

I agree with your definition, Alphas have no need to boost their egos by strutting and posing, You can't learn how to be an Alpha, you just are.

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Hey I'm Spartacus

Drat forgot to post theme change thingy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How would you describe them? I feel like there are a lot of narcissists or sadists referring to them selves as alpha males looking for women/sluts/filthy whores to humiliate/fuck hard. In my opinion there is nothing alpha about that, I feel like alpha males have a certain presence about them, rarely need the ego boost of having to class them selves as alpha males, are confident, often perceived as threatening by other men, take risks, enjoy taking the lead and are happy in their own skin. These are not characteristics that make them disrespectful (on the contrary, as you don't tend to get far in the world by being a jerk) and tend to make them charming and very sexy.

But maybe I'm classifying it wrong! Anyone have any opinions on this?

I agree with your definition, Alphas have no need to boost their egos by strutting and posing, You can't learn how to be an Alpha, you just are."
agreed! It comes natural the beast

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How would you describe them? I feel like there are a lot of narcissists or sadists referring to them selves as alpha males looking for women/sluts/filthy whores to humiliate/fuck hard. In my opinion there is nothing alpha about that, I feel like alpha males have a certain presence about them, rarely need the ego boost of having to class them selves as alpha males, are confident, often perceived as threatening by other men, take risks, enjoy taking the lead and are happy in their own skin. These are not characteristics that make them disrespectful (on the contrary, as you don't tend to get far in the world by being a jerk) and tend to make them charming and very sexy.

But maybe I'm classifying it wrong! Anyone have any opinions on this?

I agree with your definition, Alphas have no need to boost their egos by strutting and posing, You can't learn how to be an Alpha, you just are. agreed! It comes natural the beast "

I may have watched the wrong nature programme but dominant animals do strut and pose to warn predatory males. If the predatory male pushes the previous alpha out he becomes the alpha.

All this talk about presence is sheer nonsense. The only presence that keeps people in line is a presence that intimidates or is accorded respect for achievement and that only goes so far Too many people are fooled by charisma which is a different form of presence. A number of responses l would suggest are defining an alpha male through reading too much romantic literature and pulp noir and also by applying progressive social policies or basically what they look for in a boyfriend.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How would you describe them? I feel like there are a lot of narcissists or sadists referring to them selves as alpha males looking for women/sluts/filthy whores to humiliate/fuck hard. In my opinion there is nothing alpha about that, I feel like alpha males have a certain presence about them, rarely need the ego boost of having to class them selves as alpha males, are confident, often perceived as threatening by other men, take risks, enjoy taking the lead and are happy in their own skin. These are not characteristics that make them disrespectful (on the contrary, as you don't tend to get far in the world by being a jerk) and tend to make them charming and very sexy.

But maybe I'm classifying it wrong! Anyone have any opinions on this? "

Oh I love this post! I totally agree! Now let me share my opinion...

I am a hard headed female, assertive if you like. But a REAL alpha male would have me on my knees!

A real alpha male to me is; James Bond types, quietly confident, doesn't get rowdy or feel the need to 'show his feathers', dresses and smells divine, treats their lady with respect - opens doors etc, and then, in the bedroom makes sure I am satisfied as well as taking control. Having the confidence to tease and tempt me into submission rather than take it.

Hmmm but these goldmines seem to be few and far between unfortunately...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've owned a few alfas does that count. "

Unreliable?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a beta male. As in beta than all of you "alphas"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

as for the narcissists/ sadists thing (narcissists are actually sadists anyway), i do think there's a higher percentage of those in the population than experts would lead us to believe.

but also just normal people will act like dicks when they think it's appropriate to do that, like say on a site where they think everyone is here to be used...

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

I'm not sociable enough to be an alpha male....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would describe myself more of a lone wolf.

I do my own stuff and could not care less about anyone else or their opinion unless they're close to me.

I don't follow trends and I don't bend to social pressure. I don't comprise to achieve my goals, I find a way that suits me and stick to it.

Yeah I might have trouble finding friends or even socialising but at least I know I'm staying true to myself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

A real alpha male to me is; quietly confident, doesn't get rowdy or feel the need to 'show his feathers', dresses and smells divine, treats their lady with respect - opens doors etc, and then, in the bedroom makes sure I am satisfied as well as taking control. Having the confidence to tease and tempt me into submission rather than take it.

"

Enough about me.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How would you describe them? I feel like there are a lot of narcissists or sadists referring to them selves as alpha males looking for women/sluts/filthy whores to humiliate/fuck hard. In my opinion there is nothing alpha about that, I feel like alpha males have a certain presence about them, rarely need the ego boost of having to class them selves as alpha males, are confident, often perceived as threatening by other men, take risks, enjoy taking the lead and are happy in their own skin. These are not characteristics that make them disrespectful (on the contrary, as you don't tend to get far in the world by being a jerk) and tend to make them charming and very sexy.

But maybe I'm classifying it wrong! Anyone have any opinions on this?

Oh I love this post! I totally agree! Now let me share my opinion...

I am a hard headed female, assertive if you like. But a REAL alpha male would have me on my knees!

A real alpha male to me is; James Bond types, quietly confident, doesn't get rowdy or feel the need to 'show his feathers', dresses and smells divine, treats their lady with respect - opens doors etc, and then, in the bedroom makes sure I am satisfied as well as taking control. Having the confidence to tease and tempt me into submission rather than take it.

Hmmm but these goldmines seem to be few and far between unfortunately..."

Firstly James Bond is a fictional character, secondly if you read the books unless you put patriotism above all else he is a deeply unpleasant character, thirdly which of the film Bonds even match the above requirements.

Although l suspect your comments are a little tongue in cheek.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some of the replies in here remind me of a 60's aftershave advert.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How would you describe them? I feel like there are a lot of narcissists or sadists referring to them selves as alpha males looking for women/sluts/filthy whores to humiliate/fuck hard. In my opinion there is nothing alpha about that, I feel like alpha males have a certain presence about them, rarely need the ego boost of having to class them selves as alpha males, are confident, often perceived as threatening by other men, take risks, enjoy taking the lead and are happy in their own skin. These are not characteristics that make them disrespectful (on the contrary, as you don't tend to get far in the world by being a jerk) and tend to make them charming and very sexy.

But maybe I'm classifying it wrong! Anyone have any opinions on this?

Oh I love this post! I totally agree! Now let me share my opinion...

I am a hard headed female, assertive if you like. But a REAL alpha male would have me on my knees!

A real alpha male to me is; James Bond types, quietly confident, doesn't get rowdy or feel the need to 'show his feathers', dresses and smells divine, treats their lady with respect - opens doors etc, and then, in the bedroom makes sure I am satisfied as well as taking control. Having the confidence to tease and tempt me into submission rather than take it.

Hmmm but these goldmines seem to be few and far between unfortunately...

Firstly James Bond is a fictional character, secondly if you read the books unless you put patriotism above all else he is a deeply unpleasant character, thirdly which of the film Bonds even match the above requirements.

Although l suspect your comments are a little tongue in cheek. "

He also treats women as sex objects.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure what I can consider to be one, would describe themself in that way. The term sounds elitist and arrogant. The guys I consider to have an alpha persona don't need to tell anyone about it, they show it through their actions and it's natural, not contrived.

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over a year ago


"How would you describe them? I feel like there are a lot of narcissists or sadists referring to them selves as alpha males looking for women/sluts/filthy whores to humiliate/fuck hard. In my opinion there is nothing alpha about that, I feel like alpha males have a certain presence about them, rarely need the ego boost of having to class them selves as alpha males, are confident, often perceived as threatening by other men, take risks, enjoy taking the lead and are happy in their own skin. These are not characteristics that make them disrespectful (on the contrary, as you don't tend to get far in the world by being a jerk) and tend to make them charming and very sexy.

But maybe I'm classifying it wrong! Anyone have any opinions on this?

I agree with your definition, Alphas have no need to boost their egos by strutting and posing, You can't learn how to be an Alpha, you just are. agreed! It comes natural the beast

I may have watched the wrong nature programme but dominant animals do strut and pose to warn predatory males. If the predatory male pushes the previous alpha out he becomes the alpha.

All this talk about presence is sheer nonsense. The only presence that keeps people in line is a presence that intimidates or is accorded respect for achievement and that only goes so far Too many people are fooled by charisma which is a different form of presence. A number of responses l would suggest are defining an alpha male through reading too much romantic literature and pulp noir and also by applying progressive social policies or basically what they look for in a boyfriend."

I would say you are spot on.

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

There's a big difference between confidence arrogance and bravado..

Confidence is a very powerful sexual trait.

I don't find the others so.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Some of the replies in here remind me of a 60's aftershave advert. "

*deep voice* "Alpha male....for REAL men"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some of the replies in here remind me of a 60's aftershave advert. "

Or more like a playground. I'm just waiting for someone to say 'My action man is better than your action man!'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some of the replies in here remind me of a 60's aftershave advert.

Or more like a playground. I'm just waiting for someone to say 'My action man is better than your action man!'

"

I win that one easy! Mine has eagle eyes (little lever on the back of his head that makes his eyes go left and right) actual fuzzy hair and kung-fu grippy hands!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thinking some more about this, the descriptions in the threads sound like classic successful players. Snap decisions on a first meeting are poor. I think accepting stereotypes is how people end up in disastrous relationships or situatuons.

How do you tell an alpha male or female is by their continuous success in whichever field they are being judged. Anyone can say or imply they are, for an example a top goal scorer, but the only reliable evidence is that they continuously at the highest level put the ball in the net. No matter how successful Ronaldo may be, the general _iew is that he is a tosser.

Beyonce is an alpha female because she has continued success and l bet you she will make it clear in any meeting that she is top dog. If you want strong and silent give me Serena Williams.

I think in any judgment on alpha behaviour you must also take into account cultural and national traits.

To lighten things up l think if anyone has half an hour to spare the issues (of alpha, beta and amigo dogs!) are funnily explored in the comedy radio programme Cabin Pressure episode Ipswich (with a young Benedict Cumberbatch displaying what is not an alpha) and enjoy your 'hearty wildebeest'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This whole 'Alpha' thing is tedious.

A man should aim to do what he wants without to much concern for what other people think. Doesn't matter if that means being a CEO or a careworker.

Wanting to be seen as an 'Alpha' is vain and infantile.

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By *hoenixcouplexxCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire

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By *hoenixcouplexxCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"Thinking some more about this, the descriptions in the threads sound like classic successful players. Snap decisions on a first meeting are poor. I think accepting stereotypes is how people end up in disastrous relationships or situatuons.

How do you tell an alpha male or female is by their continuous success in whichever field they are being judged. Anyone can say or imply they are, for an example a top goal scorer, but the only reliable evidence is that they continuously at the highest level put the ball in the net. No matter how successful Ronaldo may be, the general _iew is that he is a tosser.

Beyonce is an alpha female because she has continued success and l bet you she will make it clear in any meeting that she is top dog. If you want strong and silent give me Serena Williams.

I think in any judgment on alpha behaviour you must also take into account cultural and national traits.

To lighten things up l think if anyone has half an hour to spare the issues (of alpha, beta and amigo dogs!) are funnily explored in the comedy radio programme Cabin Pressure episode Ipswich (with a young Benedict Cumberbatch displaying what is not an alpha) and enjoy your 'hearty wildebeest'.

"

I don't see how that works...

My reasoning is this:

One 'Alpha' male may well put the happiness and welling being of his family before anything else. So he may not be as successful in his chosen field because he has chosen not to be because he wishes to focus his attention somewhere else. In this case his family.

That doesn't make him any less 'Alpha' than the guy that feels he needs to get as far as he can in his chosen field to prove himself to himself and/or others. Some may choose to provide a certain level of living and then focus their time and energy into other areas of development and wellbeing for their family.

Also isn't it common that those in many high power careers choose to be completely submissive in their private life? Would someone deemed 'Alpha' ever be submissive?

Beyonce may well demand exactly what she wants in a meeting regarding a concert she is performing for example. But when everyone leaves, the door shuts and she's in private with her partner what's to say she doesn't choose to submit to him with all that she is?

What one judges as a measure of success may be totally different to another, therefore how can success be a measuring stick in this case?

Also cultural and national traits? How so?

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over a year ago


"Thinking some more about this, the descriptions in the threads sound like classic successful players. Snap decisions on a first meeting are poor. I think accepting stereotypes is how people end up in disastrous relationships or situatuons.

How do you tell an alpha male or female is by their continuous success in whichever field they are being judged. Anyone can say or imply they are, for an example a top goal scorer, but the only reliable evidence is that they continuously at the highest level put the ball in the net. No matter how successful Ronaldo may be, the general _iew is that he is a tosser.

Beyonce is an alpha female because she has continued success and l bet you she will make it clear in any meeting that she is top dog. If you want strong and silent give me Serena Williams.

I think in any judgment on alpha behaviour you must also take into account cultural and national traits.

To lighten things up l think if anyone has half an hour to spare the issues (of alpha, beta and amigo dogs!) are funnily explored in the comedy radio programme Cabin Pressure episode Ipswich (with a young Benedict Cumberbatch displaying what is not an alpha) and enjoy your 'hearty wildebeest'.

I don't see how that works...

My reasoning is this:

One 'Alpha' male may well put the happiness and welling being of his family before anything else. So he may not be as successful in his chosen field because he has chosen not to be because he wishes to focus his attention somewhere else. In this case his family.

That doesn't make him any less 'Alpha' than the guy that feels he needs to get as far as he can in his chosen field to prove himself to himself and/or others. Some may choose to provide a certain level of living and then focus their time and energy into other areas of development and wellbeing for their family.

Also isn't it common that those in many high power careers choose to be completely submissive in their private life? Would someone deemed 'Alpha' ever be submissive?

Beyonce may well demand exactly what she wants in a meeting regarding a concert she is performing for example. But when everyone leaves, the door shuts and she's in private with her partner what's to say she doesn't choose to submit to him with all that she is?

What one judges as a measure of success may be totally different to another, therefore how can success be a measuring stick in this case?

Also cultural and national traits? How so?"

I used 'fields' in the broadest sense and could include family life. Therefore l do not think we are in disagreement as my response was to highlight that alpha behaviour is varied and should be measured over time and can be situational. I also agree on your dominance submission point as l am also into fetish. It is a circumstance that stereotypically masterful people in public are submissive in private (by the way I don't see submissives, in fetish terms, as weak)

In the UK and in some cultural stratas of the USA the strong silent type is seen as strong archetype. In other cultures different behavior is a displaying strength.

I would love to respond to more but l have a 3 response rule on threads (which l may have broken) as l can spend too much time responding to responses to my responses. Always happy to chat on anything at a club. Have a good afternoon one and all.

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over a year ago


"I'm a beta male. As in beta than all of you "alphas" "
*drags knuckles on floor there's only one silverback alpha in this jungle

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I like alpha males, I even have some as friends.

I am so liberated

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"as for the narcissists/ sadists thing (narcissists are actually sadists anyway), i do think there's a higher percentage of those in the population than experts would lead us to believe.

but also just normal people will act like dicks when they think it's appropriate to do that, like say on a site where they think everyone is here to be used... "

I don't think you can say narcissists are sadists Feir, many if not most just lack empathy, so it is easy for them to be cruel for their own ends sometimes I grant you.

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over a year ago


"as for the narcissists/ sadists thing (narcissists are actually sadists anyway), i do think there's a higher percentage of those in the population than experts would lead us to believe.

but also just normal people will act like dicks when they think it's appropriate to do that, like say on a site where they think everyone is here to be used...

I don't think you can say narcissists are sadists Feir, many if not most just lack empathy, so it is easy for them to be cruel for their own ends sometimes I grant you. "

you could be right but i honestly think they enjoy hurting people. some are masochistic and enjoy hurting others if it hurts themselves too.

just in my experience, which isn't much but i can see that personally.

they're miserable gits who make themselves happier by making others unhappy. or even if they don't make that person unhappy then just by doing horrible things to them they get pleasure off it because they presume they are upsetting that person or getting one over on them.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"as for the narcissists/ sadists thing (narcissists are actually sadists anyway), i do think there's a higher percentage of those in the population than experts would lead us to believe.

but also just normal people will act like dicks when they think it's appropriate to do that, like say on a site where they think everyone is here to be used...

I don't think you can say narcissists are sadists Feir, many if not most just lack empathy, so it is easy for them to be cruel for their own ends sometimes I grant you.

you could be right but i honestly think they enjoy hurting people. some are masochistic and enjoy hurting others if it hurts themselves too.

just in my experience, which isn't much but i can see that personally.

they're miserable gits who make themselves happier by making others unhappy. or even if they don't make that person unhappy then just by doing horrible things to them they get pleasure off it because they presume they are upsetting that person or getting one over on them."

Yeah, that's not my experience at all so it might be worth bearing in mind that it isn't always so. I think that's more sociopathic, though they say sociopaths are all narcs as well.

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over a year ago

actually i have years of experience but am starting to think my dad wasn't a narcissist, or if he was he had no elements of sadism, he was a violent control freak though and lots of elements of narcissism apply to him.

but 2 of my exes - i can see they both enjoyed elements of sadism. i can remember back and see times when they were enjoying being cruel.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yeah, that's not my experience at all so it might be worth bearing in mind that it isn't always so. I think that's more sociopathic, though they say sociopaths are all narcs as well. "

could be, one ex was diagnosed with sociopathic tendencies when he was in prison.

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