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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Why can't some guys on here be a little more polite?seriously.... Do I want to choke on your cock as a first message is a little off putting x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why can't some guys on here be a little more polite?seriously.... Do I want to choke on your cock as a first message is a little off putting x"

All we get is abuse off guys, who by the way never read our profile. We then say we have no interest, but hope they find what they are looking for, then we just get the abuse, so immature and pathetic really.

Just block them and hope the next guy you talk to has manors and doesn't act like a 8 year old boy haha.

Emma x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately Emma people are very rude and disrespectful if people can't get there way I say hello and please to meet u all I get is no not my type get lost I don't let it bother me hope this helps Joe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Unfortunately Emma people are very rude and disrespectful if people can't get there way I say hello and please to meet u all I get is no not my type get lost I don't let it bother me hope this helps Joe "

Very true, just a shame people act like kids and can't take rejection.

Emma

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some think the direct crude approach works as its a sex site, it's all u want right? Ummm no!!

The ones that hit back with pathetic abuse just cos u turned them down just need to be blocked really... Clearly you aren't missing much.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some think the direct crude approach works as its a sex site, it's all u want right? Ummm no!!

The ones that hit back with pathetic abuse just cos u turned them down just need to be blocked really... Clearly you aren't missing much. "

Couldn't agree more

Emma x

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

The only thing I would point out is that "people" are rude. Not just guys: girls and couples can be just as rude, and if anything, with a certain sense of entitlement they assume guys are there to take what they are given and are supposed to be grateful.

People are rude: not necessary, completely uncalled for and just plain lack of manners and decency.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes people are likes kids so don't worry about move on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Emma hopefully there be some one or couple that are really fab on here for you ps great pics

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

im glad they show there true colors makes it easier to block them str8 away

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By *enuinedannyMan
over a year ago

walsall

I love it when I get a no thanks its pretty much all I get but I expect it gracefully and let them move on hostility and being sour get no one anywhere fast peace and love to all.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"The only thing I would point out is that "people" are rude. Not just guys: girls and couples can be just as rude, and if anything, with a certain sense of entitlement they assume guys are there to take what they are given and are supposed to be grateful.

People are rude: not necessary, completely uncalled for and just plain lack of manners and decency."

A lot of guys are entitled too.

Some think all the women on this site are here to service them, on demand. They think we should all be willing to shag anyone who asks at the drop of a hat.

If they fancy us, or even if they think we'll do, it's a done deal. They are here because they want sex so we must also want sex. They have a cock and can provide sex so we're a perfect match. It doesn't occur to them we have our own wants and needs.

Some guys think this is effectively an online catalogue of free prostitutes they can choose from. I frequently get messages from guys listing what they want, like they think they're ordering from a menu.

A high proportion of the guys that think that way get nasty when told no.

We're here, flaunting ourselves, but we won't put out. We're cockteases. We're timewasters, (that 30 seconds they spent looking at our photos and typing "fancy a fuck" was totally wasted!). We're arrogant princesses who think we're too good for them. We shouldn't be on this site if we don't want to fuck (because obviously it couldn't just be them we don't want to fuck. It's our fault. We're frigid or stuck-up).

But it's fine because we were too fat and ugly for them anyway. They didn't really want to fuck us.

They can't understand it. They want sex, we want sex, they can do sex, so they're as good as anybody else, right?

"But whhhhhy will you only meet men taller than you? We're all the same height lying down. I can fuck just as well as a taller man"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm one of the nice ones, doesn't get me anywhere though!

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By *evilsAdvocate72Woman
over a year ago

East

I have to agree, 8 out every ten messages have some effort put into them....I try to reply to all but its a full time job if you do that.

Also if you do reply to a message some people think that means you are open to meeting them which is not the case.

Sometimes its easier to be rude at the start than hurtful later on. It's something I've been guilty of more than once in the past and will most likely do it again in the future.

Harsh but true..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have to agree, 8 out every ten messages have some effort put into them....I try to reply to all but its a full time job if you do that.

Also if you do reply to a message some people think that means you are open to meeting them which is not the case.

Sometimes its easier to be rude at the start than hurtful later on. It's something I've been guilty of more than once in the past and will most likely do it again in the future.

Harsh but true.."

Remind me not to message you.. lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only thing I would point out is that "people" are rude. Not just guys: girls and couples can be just as rude, and if anything, with a certain sense of entitlement they assume guys are there to take what they are given and are supposed to be grateful.

People are rude: not necessary, completely uncalled for and just plain lack of manners and decency.

A lot of guys are entitled too.

Some think all the women on this site are here to service them, on demand. They think we should all be willing to shag anyone who asks at the drop of a hat.

If they fancy us, or even if they think we'll do, it's a done deal. They are here because they want sex so we must also want sex. They have a cock and can provide sex so we're a perfect match. It doesn't occur to them we have our own wants and needs.

Some guys think this is effectively an online catalogue of free prostitutes they can choose from. I frequently get messages from guys listing what they want, like they think they're ordering from a menu.

A high proportion of the guys that think that way get nasty when told no.

We're here, flaunting ourselves, but we won't put out. We're cockteases. We're timewasters, (that 30 seconds they spent looking at our photos and typing "fancy a fuck" was totally wasted!). We're arrogant princesses who think we're too good for them. We shouldn't be on this site if we don't want to fuck (because obviously it couldn't just be them we don't want to fuck. It's our fault. We're frigid or stuck-up).

But it's fine because we were too fat and ugly for them anyway. They didn't really want to fuck us.

They can't understand it. They want sex, we want sex, they can do sex, so they're as good as anybody else, right?

"But whhhhhy will you only meet men taller than you? We're all the same height lying down. I can fuck just as well as a taller man""

this is so true.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why can't some guys on here be a little more polite?seriously.... Do I want to choke on your cock as a first message is a little off putting x

All we get is abuse off guys, who by the way never read our profile. We then say we have no interest, but hope they find what they are looking for, then we just get the abuse, so immature and pathetic really.

Just block them and hope the next guy you talk to has manors and doesn't act like a 8 year old boy haha.

Emma x"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only thing I would point out is that "people" are rude. Not just guys: girls and couples can be just as rude, and if anything, with a certain sense of entitlement they assume guys are there to take what they are given and are supposed to be grateful.

People are rude: not necessary, completely uncalled for and just plain lack of manners and decency.

A lot of guys are entitled too.

Some think all the women on this site are here to service them, on demand. They think we should all be willing to shag anyone who asks at the drop of a hat.

If they fancy us, or even if they think we'll do, it's a done deal. They are here because they want sex so we must also want sex. They have a cock and can provide sex so we're a perfect match. It doesn't occur to them we have our own wants and needs.

Some guys think this is effectively an online catalogue of free prostitutes they can choose from. I frequently get messages from guys listing what they want, like they think they're ordering from a menu.

A high proportion of the guys that think that way get nasty when told no.

We're here, flaunting ourselves, but we won't put out. We're cockteases. We're timewasters, (that 30 seconds they spent looking at our photos and typing "fancy a fuck" was totally wasted!). We're arrogant princesses who think we're too good for them. We shouldn't be on this site if we don't want to fuck (because obviously it couldn't just be them we don't want to fuck. It's our fault. We're frigid or stuck-up).

But it's fine because we were too fat and ugly for them anyway. They didn't really want to fuck us.

They can't understand it. They want sex, we want sex, they can do sex, so they're as good as anybody else, right?

"But whhhhhy will you only meet men taller than you? We're all the same height lying down. I can fuck just as well as a taller man""

Oh yes, this is soo true!

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I hid some veris from a lady because she got hassle from a guy along the lines of 'you shagged that Brighton guy, why not me?' And a no wasn't taken very well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only thing I would point out is that "people" are rude. Not just guys: girls and couples can be just as rude, and if anything, with a certain sense of entitlement they assume guys are there to take what they are given and are supposed to be grateful.

Spot on!!

Alot of men approach me like they are booking their car in for a service 'Are you free tomorrow at 3pm?' No conversation - just an assumption I'd meet them. Awwww guess what NO!

People are rude: not necessary, completely uncalled for and just plain lack of manners and decency.

A lot of guys are entitled too.

Some think all the women on this site are here to service them, on demand. They think we should all be willing to shag anyone who asks at the drop of a hat.

If they fancy us, or even if they think we'll do, it's a done deal. They are here because they want sex so we must also want sex. They have a cock and can provide sex so we're a perfect match. It doesn't occur to them we have our own wants and needs.

Some guys think this is effectively an online catalogue of free prostitutes they can choose from. I frequently get messages from guys listing what they want, like they think they're ordering from a menu.

A high proportion of the guys that think that way get nasty when told no.

We're here, flaunting ourselves, but we won't put out. We're cockteases. We're timewasters, (that 30 seconds they spent looking at our photos and typing "fancy a fuck" was totally wasted!). We're arrogant princesses who think we're too good for them. We shouldn't be on this site if we don't want to fuck (because obviously it couldn't just be them we don't want to fuck. It's our fault. We're frigid or stuck-up).

But it's fine because we were too fat and ugly for them anyway. They didn't really want to fuck us.

They can't understand it. They want sex, we want sex, they can do sex, so they're as good as anybody else, right?

"But whhhhhy will you only meet men taller than you? We're all the same height lying down. I can fuck just as well as a taller man""

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's people innit.

There's also that relative anonymity of the internet and some people seem to think they can behave differently online - perhaps just revealing their more basic personality. It manifests itself in different forms as well - not just blunt, direct messages but in sudden blocks or failure to turn up to an arranged meet. Like others have mentioned on here - I treat it all pretty lightly and don't get wound up by it when it happens. I always try and reply to messages but then being a guy on here makes it a lot easier as I don't get that many.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

I have been here seven years, and only meet single men. I'm old, fat and don't suffer fools gladly.

Only once have I had an abusive message and that was from an Asian guy who thought "black bitch" would attract my attention.

When meeting my profile is not ambiguous and states anyone outwith what I'm looking for will be ignored. I read the profile before the message and delete unopened and block anyone who doesn't fit my need.

Anyone on paper that meets my requirements but doesn't float my boat for whatever reason gets a letter that shows I've read their profile and although it's a no thanks leaves them feeling good about themselves and not just dismissed.

I'm not saying others are sending snooty messages, from forum posts some mean do come across as entitled. I just want to big up the single men I've come across who have not sent me an abusive message.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've read the posts on this thread with some sadness. There are some really nice people on here. Over a period of years I have met literally hundreds of them.

It does seem, sadly, that more and more are joining with:

guys-a sense of entitlement so they throw their toys out if rejected.

women/couples-with ideas above their station and an arrogance that defies belief.

Thankfully this does not apply to the many, many lovely people on here. But the numbers of knobheads is increasing and I feel this is causing some of the nice ones to leave.

Just my observations over the last five years or so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Delete crude messages without opening. I've never had abuse for that. Childish messages just don't get read.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Yup some people are rude.Yup people react to it. Yup the cycle continues.

It ain't gonna change

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So many over inflated egos on this place that make it impossible for a single man to enjoy the site, women string people along just for the fun of it,have showen respect manners with women think your getting on so well but the first word of meeting up in public wow they stop replying to massages,so what do you except, only can kick a dog so many times before it will bit back,so take a look at your self before saying all single men are assholes, manners and respect mean nothing to single women and couples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've read the posts on this thread with some sadness. There are some really nice people on here. Over a period of years I have met literally hundreds of them.

It does seem, sadly, that more and more are joining with:

guys-a sense of entitlement so they throw their toys out if rejected.

women/couples-with ideas above their station and an arrogance that defies belief.

Thankfully this does not apply to the many, many lovely people on here. But the numbers of knobheads is increasing and I feel this is causing some of the nice ones to leave.

Just my observations over the last five years or so."

I agree, I have been on FAB off and on for years and noticed the change in attitude. Sadly, I don't think things are going to get any better. Whilst it is not true for all guys, I have found that the younger ones are the worst culprits for the 'entitled' attitude. After another forum post, one wrote to me to ask why he wasn't getting meets. I gave him my take on things (he asked me in PM, so he got it). What he heard he didn't like and the conversation degenerated into him getting angry at me and hurling abuse. I tried to explain that his attitude was at fault and that he came across badly as an angry young man, then he told me my attitude wasn't all that. (I know, I should have blocked him long before we got to that point, but I had my patient head on). We went round in circles, and in the end, I did block him, but I did notice that his profile had changed over the course of the conversation. However, I doubt if his response to rejection was ever going to change and he will be on here another 4 months without any meets (if he stays).

That said, I have met up with a really nice and polite young guy, (going to meet him again too!). He is an absolute gem, polite and a good conversationalist as well as damn good in the sack!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No one has said ALL men. But it is true of some...an increasing number sadly. Also true of some women/couples too.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"So many over inflated egos on this place that make it impossible for a single man to enjoy the site, women string people along just for the fun of it,have showen respect manners with women think your getting on so well but the first word of meeting up in public wow they stop replying to massages,so what do you except, only can kick a dog so many times before it will bit back,so take a look at your self before saying all single men are assholes, manners and respect mean nothing to single women and couples"

Absolutely, women are on here for sex so they should bloody well shag you when you ask!

How dare they change their mind after chatting for a bit or be put off by something you say.

It absolutely is a sex site and by golly you deserve the sex you came here to for!

Just who do these uppity bitches think they are ruining your enjoyment of their bodies, like they're entitled to a say?

I mean, you must have spent, oh, a whole two minutes signing up to the site, you deserve what you're due dammit!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"No one has said ALL men. But it is true of some...an increasing number sadly. Also true of some women/couples too."

It is and some increasingly rub each other up the wrong way. The women moan about the men, the men bitch about the women and the irritation and bitterness grows.

The women/couples leave. The men moan there are too few women/couples...

The merry-go-round of fab.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rudeness acts as a great filter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Absolutely, women are on here for sex so they should bloody well shag you when you ask!

How dare they change their mind after chatting for a bit or be put off by something you say.

It absolutely is a sex site and by golly you deserve the sex you came here to for!

Just who do these uppity bitches think they are ruining your enjoyment of their bodies, like they're entitled to a say?

I mean, you must have spent, oh, a whole two minutes signing up to the site, you deserve what you're due dammit!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"So many over inflated egos on this place that make it impossible for a single man to enjoy the site, women string people along just for the fun of it,have showen respect manners with women think your getting on so well but the first word of meeting up in public wow they stop replying to massages,so what do you except, only can kick a dog so many times before it will bit back,so take a look at your self before saying all single men are assholes, manners and respect mean nothing to single women and couples

Absolutely, women are on here for sex so they should bloody well shag you when you ask!

How dare they change their mind after chatting for a bit or be put off by something you say.

It absolutely is a sex site and by golly you deserve the sex you came here to for!

Just who do these uppity bitches think they are ruining your enjoyment of their bodies, like they're entitled to a say?

I mean, you must have spent, oh, a whole two minutes signing up to the site, you deserve what you're due dammit!

"

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"So many over inflated egos on this place that make it impossible for a single man to enjoy the site, women string people along just for the fun of it,have showen respect manners with women think your getting on so well but the first word of meeting up in public wow they stop replying to massages,so what do you except, only can kick a dog so many times before it will bit back,so take a look at your self before saying all single men are assholes, manners and respect mean nothing to single women and couples

Absolutely, women are on here for sex so they should bloody well shag you when you ask!

How dare they change their mind after chatting for a bit or be put off by something you say.

It absolutely is a sex site and by golly you deserve the sex you came here to for!

Just who do these uppity bitches think they are ruining your enjoyment of their bodies, like they're entitled to a say?

I mean, you must have spent, oh, a whole two minutes signing up to the site, you deserve what you're due dammit!

"

I refer you to my first post on this thread:


"We're here, flaunting ourselves, but we won't put out. We're cockteases. We're timewasters, (that 30 seconds they spent looking at our photos and typing "fancy a fuck" was totally wasted!). We're arrogant princesses who think we're too good for them. We shouldn't be on this site if we don't want to fuck (because obviously it couldn't just be them we don't want to fuck. It's our fault. We're frigid or stuck-up)."

And along comes someone to demonstrate the attitude perfectly.

Women totally spoil the enjoyment of this site by single men by not spreading their legs on command!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No one has said ALL men. But it is true of some...an increasing number sadly. Also true of some women/couples too.

It is and some increasingly rub each other up the wrong way. The women moan about the men, the men bitch about the women and the irritation and bitterness grows.

The women/couples leave. The men moan there are too few women/couples...

The merry-go-round of fab."

the fact that swinging gets more mainstream media attention( wait for all the papers running something about swingfields Monday morning)means that more men become aware of it. Although there are loads of swingers websites out there this is the only one (that we know of) that is free. It is therefore going to attract the men that think it I instashag... Alas they learn the hard way. We don't let rude and abusive mails bother us we just delete block and in the word of mr t PITY THE FOOLS

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

I am always polite with my messages but at the end of the day its often looks that count on here more than manners(by the way that's not me complaining, it is what it is)

I've often wondered if I'm not pushy enough on here as I find some great ladies who chat but I don't seem to progress to a meet and fun

I can't change my personality though and wouldn't resort to not being polite just to get a meet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So many over inflated egos on this place that make it impossible for a single man to enjoy the site, women string people along just for the fun of it,have showen respect manners with women think your getting on so well but the first word of meeting up in public wow they stop replying to massages,so what do you except, only can kick a dog so many times before it will bit back,so take a look at your self before saying all single men are assholes, manners and respect mean nothing to single women and couples"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So many over inflated egos on this place that make it impossible for a single man to enjoy the site, women string people along just for the fun of it,have showen respect manners with women think your getting on so well but the first word of meeting up in public wow they stop replying to massages,so what do you except, only can kick a dog so many times before it will bit back,so take a look at your self before saying all single men are assholes, manners and respect mean nothing to single women and couples"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So many over inflated egos on this place that make it impossible for a single man to enjoy the site, women string people along just for the fun of it,have showen respect manners with women think your getting on so well but the first word of meeting up in public wow they stop replying to massages,so what do you except, only can kick a dog so many times before it will bit back,so take a look at your self before saying all single men are assholes, manners and respect mean nothing to single women and couples"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So many over inflated egos on this place that make it impossible for a single man to enjoy the site, women string people along just for the fun of it,have showen respect manners with women think your getting on so well but the first word of meeting up in public wow they stop replying to massages,so what do you except, only can kick a dog so many times before it will bit back,so take a look at your self before saying all single men are assholes, manners and respect mean nothing to single women and couples"
well said my man couldn't agree with you more

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"I am always polite with my messages but at the end of the day its often looks that count on here more than manners(by the way that's not me complaining, it is what it is)

I've often wondered if I'm not pushy enough on here as I find some great ladies who chat but I don't seem to progress to a meet and fun

I can't change my personality though and wouldn't resort to not being polite just to get a meet

"

Sometimes it isn't looks.

I fairly often decline meets with guys who I do find attractive, and might meet after the exchange of a few messages, simply because I'm already chatting to a few people and trying to find time to meet them.

Sometimes I say please get back to me in a few weeks but then I have to remember who they are and hope I have free time when, if, they do. Hence sometimes it's just easier to say no thanks, particularly if they're some distance away, or I'm not sure if they're a yes or a no.

I think people tend to assume it's their looks when turned down but sometimes it can be as simple as circumstances.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"So many over inflated egos on this place that make it impossible for a single man to enjoy the site, women string people along just for the fun of it,have showen respect manners with women think your getting on so well but the first word of meeting up in public wow they stop replying to massages,so what do you except, only can kick a dog so many times before it will bit back,so take a look at your self before saying all single men are assholes, manners and respect mean nothing to single women and coupleswell said my man couldn't agree with you more"

So much so you said it 4 times

I quite agree. Bloody uppity bints spoiling your fun by refusing to put out. On a sex site too!

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
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over a year ago

My Own Little World

I find these messages act as a great filter. At least you know he is a twat without having to go through the bother of meeting them first.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think that one thing some people forget online is that there are plenty of people with a sarcastic or dry sense of humour.

Some things when said face to face can be quite funny but when typed the way it comes across totally changes because you don't see the smile that goes with it or the vast array of body language that is deeper than just having a hard cock!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who fcukin cares

Whoops that's rude

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not all men or people for that matter are rude. I'm always polite no matter what and I've gone on to have nice conversations with girls even tho I've had a no thanks reply to my initial message. I dont expect every, if any message I send to result in sex. Sometimes politeness does get you somewhere and girls appreciate it, I was told as much yesterday during a chat.

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By *umpPumpyMan
over a year ago

London

I get of offers of choking on my cock

I find bisexual or gay men the worst for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm one of the nice ones, doesn't get me anywhere though!"

Have to agree can spend 10-15 minutes writing a pleasent message to get no reply or it never be read. Thats quite rude too.

Also get rude messages from guys who think you must be willing to do anything for any type of sex

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

Some folk are rude... It bothers me nope....not a lot ...it makes the good stand out ..

I've had one abusive message in over 5 years.. granted I don't receive the volume of messages ladies or couples do however..

... Number on my block list yep 1 a very special lady....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm one of the nice ones, doesn't get me anywhere though!

Have to agree can spend 10-15 minutes writing a pleasent message to get no reply or it never be read. Thats quite rude too.

Also get rude messages from guys who think you must be willing to do anything for any type of sex"

Ya trying to hard.

I wouldn't spend more than 15 secs bashing outa ....Do you work at subway ? My six inch says hi

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London


"The only thing I would point out is that "people" are rude. Not just guys: girls and couples can be just as rude, and if anything, with a certain sense of entitlement they assume guys are there to take what they are given and are supposed to be grateful.

People are rude: not necessary, completely uncalled for and just plain lack of manners and decency.

A lot of guys are entitled too.

Some think all the women on this site are here to service them, on demand. They think we should all be willing to shag anyone who asks at the drop of a hat.

If they fancy us, or even if they think we'll do, it's a done deal. They are here because they want sex so we must also want sex. They have a cock and can provide sex so we're a perfect match. It doesn't occur to them we have our own wants and needs.

Some guys think this is effectively an online catalogue of free prostitutes they can choose from. I frequently get messages from guys listing what they want, like they think they're ordering from a menu.

A high proportion of the guys that think that way get nasty when told no.

We're here, flaunting ourselves, but we won't put out. We're cockteases. We're timewasters, (that 30 seconds they spent looking at our photos and typing "fancy a fuck" was totally wasted!). We're arrogant princesses who think we're too good for them. We shouldn't be on this site if we don't want to fuck (because obviously it couldn't just be them we don't want to fuck. It's our fault. We're frigid or stuck-up).

But it's fine because we were too fat and ugly for them anyway. They didn't really want to fuck us.

They can't understand it. They want sex, we want sex, they can do sex, so they're as good as anybody else, right?

"But whhhhhy will you only meet men taller than you? We're all the same height lying down. I can fuck just as well as a taller man""

Save that Dee and use it over and over. It's a perfect description of what a lot of men think about Fab and the people in it.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Not all men or people for that matter are rude. I'm always polite no matter what and I've gone on to have nice conversations with girls even tho I've had a no thanks reply to my initial message. I dont expect every, if any message I send to result in sex. Sometimes politeness does get you somewhere and girls appreciate it, I was told as much yesterday during a chat. "

Fear not, we all know there are nice guys on here too

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Manners are the greatest filter there is anywhere, for me, not just on fab..

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By *iptopMan
over a year ago

north of newcastle

I am always polite. Even if no reply or an abrupt message. What's the point of reacting and getting upset. I do feel for the ladies on here, having to put up with the rudness. Its just basic manners. I agree with the folk on here.

Ive often wonder how these rude people would act in public?

Anyway its a lovely sunny day here. So smiling in the sun.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some guys think this is effectively an online catalogue of free prostitutes they can choose from. I frequently get messages from guys listing what they want, like they think they're ordering from a menu."

That's true enough, but why restrict this comment to guys?

I've lost count of the number of times I've come across a profile by a single woman or a couple that says something along the lines of 'guys must be A, B, C, D, E; girls must be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5'...

You're not shopping for a new car, a new house or a new gas oven...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some guys think this is effectively an online catalogue of free prostitutes they can choose from. I frequently get messages from guys listing what they want, like they think they're ordering from a menu.

That's true enough, but why restrict this comment to guys?

I've lost count of the number of times I've come across a profile by a single woman or a couple that says something along the lines of 'guys must be A, B, C, D, E; girls must be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5'...

You're not shopping for a new car, a new house or a new gas oven...

"

Easy, they have that on thier profile.

The fuys are saying this shit in thier first message.

That's the differnce.

Hookers dont tend to cold call

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Some guys think this is effectively an online catalogue of free prostitutes they can choose from. I frequently get messages from guys listing what they want, like they think they're ordering from a menu.

That's true enough, but why restrict this comment to guys?

I've lost count of the number of times I've come across a profile by a single woman or a couple that says something along the lines of 'guys must be A, B, C, D, E; girls must be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5'...

You're not shopping for a new car, a new house or a new gas oven...

"

That's not quite the same thing though.

The guys are looking through the site, deciding who they want and expecting it to be delivered when they want it, like ordering from a catalogue.

Having a list of desirable features isn't the same as contacting someone as if they are here as a commodity available to be ordered (and feeling entitled to get it).

I have preferences and dealbreakers on my profile. I don't message people with the attitude that they are here to service me according to my whims.

I don't assume anyone will be happy to meet me simply because they are on this site. I don't think anyone owes me sex and I don't whinge when I'm turned down that all the men here are stuck-up fanny teases and are only here to mess women about.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Some guys think this is effectively an online catalogue of free prostitutes they can choose from. I frequently get messages from guys listing what they want, like they think they're ordering from a menu.

That's true enough, but why restrict this comment to guys?

I've lost count of the number of times I've come across a profile by a single woman or a couple that says something along the lines of 'guys must be A, B, C, D, E; girls must be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5'...

You're not shopping for a new car, a new house or a new gas oven...

Easy, they have that on thier profile.

The fuys are saying this shit in thier first message.

That's the differnce.

Hookers dont tend to cold call"

Exactly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not just blokes ...I've had messages very abrupt off women saying .....not interested, or you don't do it for me . Or your not my type.....to me that's rude especially wen u make the effort to as a nice message to them

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"It's not just blokes ...I've had messages very abrupt off women saying .....not interested, or you don't do it for me . Or your not my type.....to me that's rude especially wen u make the effort to as a nice message to them"

And if they didn't reply you'd moan they were rude for not replying!

Do you have any idea how many messages some women and couples get every day? And how mind-numbing it is to write no thank you message after no thank you message?

Even replying with no thanks to each can take an hour or more, and you expect some sort of specially crafted missive? What more is there to say than no thanks?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel I've never been rude to someone on here and in turn. Never had anyone man or women be rude to me.

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By *all and ChainWoman
over a year ago

Truro

Been on fab a few years this time, as a single (both of us) and a couple more recently, was also one before that going back a bit.

Sitting here struggling to recall getting even one outright rude or abusive message, in any circumstances, ever....

If you are getting rude messages, abusive messages, meeting a string of liars or cheats or users or losers, getting timewasters and no shows, getting 4' 6" roly-poly's turning up when you were expecting 6' 6" beanpoles, etc etc etc... you need to look at the common denominator.

*YOU*

Stop slagging the rest of the planet off just because *YOU* can't find a car mechanic who isn't a fucking thief and con man, *ALL* any of you achieve is to perpetuate your problem because all the decent and caring and conscientious car mechanics won't touch you with a barge pole, so they will all be too busy or suddenly start charging 150 an hour when you ask.

Stope treating the rest of the world like shit and maybe, after you serve your penance, the world will start to return the favour.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Been on fab a few years this time, as a single (both of us) and a couple more recently, was also one before that going back a bit.

Sitting here struggling to recall getting even one outright rude or abusive message, in any circumstances, ever....

If you are getting rude messages, abusive messages, meeting a string of liars or cheats or users or losers, getting timewasters and no shows, getting 4' 6" roly-poly's turning up when you were expecting 6' 6" beanpoles, etc etc etc... you need to look at the common denominator.

*YOU*

Stop slagging the rest of the planet off just because *YOU* can't find a car mechanic who isn't a fucking thief and con man, *ALL* any of you achieve is to perpetuate your problem because all the decent and caring and conscientious car mechanics won't touch you with a barge pole, so they will all be too busy or suddenly start charging 150 an hour when you ask.

Stope treating the rest of the world like shit and maybe, after you serve your penance, the world will start to return the favour."

You've not had a rude message so nobody does, and if they do it's their own fault?

Riiiiiight. Glad we cleared that up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not just blokes ...I've had messages very abrupt off women saying .....not interested, or you don't do it for me . Or your not my type.....to me that's rude especially wen u make the effort to as a nice message to block them simple

And if they didn't reply you'd moan they were rude for not replying!

Do you have any idea how many messages some women and couples get every day? And how mind-numbing it is to write no thank you message after no thank you message?

Even replying with no thanks to each can take an hour or more, and you expect some sort of specially crafted missive? What more is there to say than no thanks?"

block them simple

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"It's not just blokes ...I've had messages very abrupt off women saying .....not interested, or you don't do it for me . Or your not my type.....to me that's rude especially wen u make the effort to as a nice message to block them simple

And if they didn't reply you'd moan they were rude for not replying!

Do you have any idea how many messages some women and couples get every day? And how mind-numbing it is to write no thank you message after no thank you message?

Even replying with no thanks to each can take an hour or more, and you expect some sort of specially crafted missive? What more is there to say than no thanks?

block them simple"

Replying with no thanks is rude but just blocking would be ok?

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London


"It's not just blokes ...I've had messages very abrupt off women saying .....not interested, or you don't do it for me . Or your not my type.....to me that's rude especially wen u make the effort to as a nice message to them"

You've been replied to, turned down and you think that's rude. Just goes to show that Dee was right really, how dare those women not allow themselves to be fucked by you, it's a sex site right? You're here so the bitches must open their legs for you because it's your right.

Sheesh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not just blokes ...I've had messages very abrupt off women saying .....not interested, or you don't do it for me . Or your not my type.....to me that's rude especially wen u make the effort to as a nice message to them"

What's rude about saying you're not my type?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"It's not just blokes ...I've had messages very abrupt off women saying .....not interested, or you don't do it for me . Or your not my type.....to me that's rude especially wen u make the effort to as a nice message to them

What's rude about saying you're not my type?"

He's written a nice message, he deserves a shag!

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London


"It's not just blokes ...I've had messages very abrupt off women saying .....not interested, or you don't do it for me . Or your not my type.....to me that's rude especially wen u make the effort to as a nice message to them

What's rude about saying you're not my type?"

He was turned down for the sex he rightly deserves I think.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is a swingers site, not looking for a soulmate site, so really there is nothing personal all pleasure.

No one likes rejection, it bruises the ego and shakes the self confidence. The kindest thing to do all round is to state on your profile " no answer is an answer" and then block and move on.

Life is too short to waste time on something that is not going to happen for all concerned. There is no middle ground we will either like you enough to meet or we don't. We don't want single guys messaging us so we block them from messaging, but of course single girls will get no where by doing that, and very few will approach guys cos ... well erm reasons!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not just blokes ...I've had messages very abrupt off women saying .....not interested, or you don't do it for me . Or your not my type.....to me that's rude especially wen u make the effort to as a nice message to them"

How is "youre not my type" rude?

Thats kinda tbe most polite brush off you can get.

Put it thisnway if you get junk mail through your letter box if its a very nice well written leaflet do you write back tk the company to thank them for thier lovley leaflet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well iv been on site for a month now and believe I'm a polite male but never had a reply or conversation on here I know the females get loads of msgs but surely " no thanks" wouldn't go amiss

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By *all and ChainWoman
over a year ago

Truro


"

You've not had a rude message so nobody does, and if they do it's their own fault?

Riiiiiight. Glad we cleared that up."

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

Clearly there is no logical connection between what we actually said, and your response to it.

Perhaps then it is just pure coincidence that you apparently choose to misinterpret what people say due to some agenda, and that you apparently do also get shitty messages.

I have a cousin who hasn't a good word to say about anyone, every person she has bought a car from has ripped her off, every mechanic is an incompetent thief, microsoft are evil and stupid because they can't write an operating system because her computers are always infected with crap, the beet goes on and on and on.

She is yet again complaining about the shitty road she lives on, yet again her wing mirrors have been broken by the vermin d*unks that dare to walk down her road.

In the ten years she has been there, and the hundred cars that park on that road every night for ten years, what are the odds that 90% of all the broken wing mirrors have been on cars that she owns?

But, as she tells anyone who will listen, the problem lies with everyone else.

Karma... never heard of it.

Dee we will *attempt* to not post any specific replies to any comments you make (I see we have mutually blocked each other) as it is clear that we do not agree on most matters, however if we do do so please treat it as accidental and not a flame.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not just blokes ...I've had messages very abrupt off women saying .....not interested, or you don't do it for me . Or your not my type.....to me that's rude especially wen u make the effort to as a nice message to them

What's rude about saying you're not my type?

He's written a nice message, he deserves a shag! "

I'd like to see what he thinks is rude about saying that, not what anyone else thinks he means.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not just blokes ...I've had messages very abrupt off women saying .....not interested, or you don't do it for me . Or your not my type.....to me that's rude especially wen u make the effort to as a nice message to them"

It's not rude. Least you got a message...that's was nice of them...Most do not reply.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At least you get a brush off

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By *33dfulthingsMan
over a year ago

london

Being a bloke I must admit it's shameful of the things I've heard from woman. From harassment on site to stalking in person. I totally agree that people can turn people down but of course a little respect if given in the first place is required. Unfortunately men mostly being the prominent members get the shit because of the amount of men that don't take a hint or are rude on first messages. The men who do send nice messages and are genuine are over shadowed by the amount that want trophy sessions (only an example).

We do out number woman by huge numbers so try not take it personally

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not gay or bi but I still reply to the msgs I get from blokes asking to suck my cock or fuck their ass with a polite no thanks

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"

You've not had a rude message so nobody does, and if they do it's their own fault?

Riiiiiight. Glad we cleared that up.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

Clearly there is no logical connection between what we actually said, and your response to it.

Perhaps then it is just pure coincidence that you apparently choose to misinterpret what people say due to some agenda, and that you apparently do also get shitty messages.

I have a cousin who hasn't a good word to say about anyone, every person she has bought a car from has ripped her off, every mechanic is an incompetent thief, microsoft are evil and stupid because they can't write an operating system because her computers are always infected with crap, the beet goes on and on and on.

She is yet again complaining about the shitty road she lives on, yet again her wing mirrors have been broken by the vermin d*unks that dare to walk down her road.

In the ten years she has been there, and the hundred cars that park on that road every night for ten years, what are the odds that 90% of all the broken wing mirrors have been on cars that she owns?

But, as she tells anyone who will listen, the problem lies with everyone else.

Karma... never heard of it.

Dee we will *attempt* to not post any specific replies to any comments you make (I see we have mutually blocked each other) as it is clear that we do not agree on most matters, however if we do do so please treat it as accidental and not a flame."

You have no idea about the nature of the messages I receive or the circumstances in which I receive them yet you are an expert on why I receive them.

Like I said, you seem to think everyone has the same experience here that you do.

Incidentally, karma applies on your next life, not this one.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"It's not just blokes ...I've had messages very abrupt off women saying .....not interested, or you don't do it for me . Or your not my type.....to me that's rude especially wen u make the effort to as a nice message to them

What's rude about saying you're not my type?

He's written a nice message, he deserves a shag!

I'd like to see what he thinks is rude about saying that, not what anyone else thinks he means."

I'd love to know too but good luck getting an answer.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

It's a sex site to some

Swingers site to others

Adult tittivation site

Explicit chat

People's expectations differ greatly and their approach reflect that.

It would be great if we pleased everyone but we won't . People get genuinely upset by the approaches they receive and some revel in it.

Only 1 guarantee, it won't change but there is nothing wrong people wanting it to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That's not quite the same thing though.

The guys are looking through the site, deciding who they want and expecting it to be delivered when they want it, like ordering from a catalogue"

I never said that there was anything wrong with using your profile to tell people what traits you happen to find desirable in a partner.

Everyone has particular traits - physical, emotional, psychological - that they're attracted to.

I simply wished to draw attention to the fact that the 'online catalogue' behaviour is not a gender-exclusive phenomenon.

I do not take issue with people expressing preferences in the people they meet. The people to whom my previous post refered are those who rule out potential meets purely on the basis of an immutable characteristic.

In other words, I am distinguishing between people who say:

"I would prefer to meet someone who is over six feet tall."

And people who say:

"People under six feet tall need not apply."

Or even worse:

"No midgets."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't message people with the attitude that they are here to service me according to my whims. I don't assume anyone will be happy to meet me simply because they are on this site. I don't think anyone owes me sex and I don't whinge when I'm turned down that all the men here are stuck-up fanny teases and are only here to mess women about."

And where, pray tell, did I accuse you of doing any of those things?

In point of fact, where did I imply that anything in my initial complaint was directed at you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Having a list of desirable features isn't the same as contacting someone as if they are here as a commodity available to be ordered (and feeling entitled to get it)."

I never said they were the same thing.

However, I wasn't even referring to the mass of people who express their preferences on their profile, or list those traits that they find particularly desirable.

I was referring to a small minority of people, of whatever gender, who take the attitude that someone who deviates - however slightly - from a long list of rigid criteria is not worth considering as a potential meet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some think the direct crude approach works as its a sex site, it's all u want right? Ummm no!!

The ones that hit back with pathetic abuse just cos u turned them down just need to be blocked really... Clearly you aren't missing much. "

Perhaps if some of these guys took time to read forums like this they might realise it will greater there chances by stop being knobs , it clearly says on ours what we want and what we are looking for , so anything that comes from some turd who can't read I.e wink or message gets deleted straight away without being read

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By *unguya2zMan
over a year ago

coventry..ish

Some women and couples are rude as well.

I just been blocked by someone because when they asked if I do bareback I said no only after we know each other better.that was it blocked!!!

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By *unguya2zMan
over a year ago

coventry..ish

Full of idiots

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy


"The only thing I would point out is that "people" are rude. Not just guys: girls and couples can be just as rude, and if anything, with a certain sense of entitlement they assume guys are there to take what they are given and are supposed to be grateful.

People are rude: not necessary, completely uncalled for and just plain lack of manners and decency.

A lot of guys are entitled too.

Some think all the women on this site are here to service them, on demand. They think we should all be willing to shag anyone who asks at the drop of a hat.

If they fancy us, or even if they think we'll do, it's a done deal. They are here because they want sex so we must also want sex. They have a cock and can provide sex so we're a perfect match. It doesn't occur to them we have our own wants and needs.

Some guys think this is effectively an online catalogue of free prostitutes they can choose from. I frequently get messages from guys listing what they want, like they think they're ordering from a menu.

A high proportion of the guys that think that way get nasty when told no.

We're here, flaunting ourselves, but we won't put out. We're cockteases. We're timewasters, (that 30 seconds they spent looking at our photos and typing "fancy a fuck" was totally wasted!). We're arrogant princesses who think we're too good for them. We shouldn't be on this site if we don't want to fuck (because obviously it couldn't just be them we don't want to fuck. It's our fault. We're frigid or stuck-up).

But it's fine because we were too fat and ugly for them anyway. They didn't really want to fuck us.

They can't understand it. They want sex, we want sex, they can do sex, so they're as good as anybody else, right?

"But whhhhhy will you only meet men taller than you? We're all the same height lying down. I can fuck just as well as a taller man""

Yeah, I think you've pretty much nailed it, there.

Also, I think they get so frustrated at not getting what they want, they resort to being rude and abusive.

Pathetic, really

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London


"Some women and couples are rude as well.

I just been blocked by someone because when they asked if I do bareback I said no only after we know each other better.that was it blocked!!!"

It's simply not rude. You don't fit what they want so they blocked you. That's it.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London


"Having a list of desirable features isn't the same as contacting someone as if they are here as a commodity available to be ordered (and feeling entitled to get it).

I never said they were the same thing.

However, I wasn't even referring to the mass of people who express their preferences on their profile, or list those traits that they find particularly desirable.

I was referring to a small minority of people, of whatever gender, who take the attitude that someone who deviates - however slightly - from a long list of rigid criteria is not worth considering as a potential meet.

"

Why? Why should I consider someone who deviates from what I'm looking for as a potential meet? To give them 'a chance'?

I'm not a charity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The main reason for blocking is not because they don't like you, but they do not like you enough to want to meet.

We know its a numbers game for the guys, but as there are so many its saves everyone's time should they try to get in touch a few weeks time.

It really isn't personal, few of us have the time to spare replying to the same people over and over again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why? Why should I consider someone who deviates from what I'm looking for as a potential meet? To give them 'a chance'?

I'm not a charity."

Simple. Because this in real life, perfect people don't exist. Everyone has flaws and imperfections, and bits about themselves that they don't like.

Sorry if you go around with a tape-measure, a set of bathroom scales and the Dulux paint chart, but I happen to believe that it's possible to meet someone who matches 9 out of 10 of my preferences, and still have a good time.

But there was I thinking that this site was about more than just getting your leg over with 'Mr. Perfect'...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why can't some guys on here be a little more polite?seriously.... Do I want to choke on your cock as a first message is a little off putting x"

Haha. That's is rude. Some can't help it. A matching "I have to show I'm alpha male" thing. They don't understand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

matcho not matching

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why? Why should I consider someone who deviates from what I'm looking for as a potential meet? To give them 'a chance'? I'm not a charity."

I'm not asking for 'charity'...I'm just suggesting that people should make more of an effort to look past the minor 'flaws' that they see in other people, rather than hunting in vain for unattainable perfection...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why? Why should I consider someone who deviates from what I'm looking for as a potential meet? To give them 'a chance'? I'm not a charity.

I'm not asking for 'charity'...I'm just suggesting that people should make more of an effort to look past the minor 'flaws' that they see in other people, rather than hunting in vain for unattainable perfection..."

Why worry about it if it's unattainable...go after what you want and don't worry what others have as filters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My best meet to date was with a guy who was rude in his first message. I was in a mood and gave him crap back ended up meeting a few times and going away together. But I know that was just a lucky argument

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My best meet to date was with a guy who was rude in his first message. I was in a mood and gave him crap back ended up meeting a few times and going away together. But I know that was just a lucky argument"

I'llalway take a fiesty one over a 'nice' one...It often reflects their bedroom manners

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By *all and ChainWoman
over a year ago

Truro


"The main reason for blocking is not because they don't like you, but they do not like you enough to want to meet.

We know its a numbers game for the guys, but as there are so many its saves everyone's time should they try to get in touch a few weeks time.

It really isn't personal, few of us have the time to spare replying to the same people over and over again. "

You raise an interesting point, on the one hand, we, eg couple profile, do have message filters in place, on the other hand, our block list....

...checks....

has 105 profile names on it...

literally a handful of TV/TS

TWO single men

SIXTY TWO single women

so around 30 couples on there.

And yes, we use it as a "won't fuck" for whatever reason filter.

But only two single men made it on there, and sixty two single women, and that is despite the oft discussed 100 men to every woman ratios on fab.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not just blokes ...I've had messages very abrupt off women saying .....not interested, or you don't do it for me . Or your not my type.....to me that's rude especially wen u make the effort to as a nice message to them read my message properly u moron it's just there response could be nicer zimple

You've been replied to, turned down and you think that's rude. Just goes to show that Dee was right really, how dare those women not allow themselves to be fucked by you, it's a sex site right? You're here so the bitches must open their legs for you because it's your right.

Sheesh."

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By *ilacWoman
over a year ago

Cheshire

I actually find females from couples approaching me ruder than single males. Speak to me like I'm an escort.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only thing I would point out is that "people" are rude. Not just guys: girls and couples can be just as rude, and if anything, with a certain sense of entitlement they assume guys are there to take what they are given and are supposed to be grateful.

People are rude: not necessary, completely uncalled for and just plain lack of manners and decency."

Absolutely spot on!

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London


"Why? Why should I consider someone who deviates from what I'm looking for as a potential meet? To give them 'a chance'?

I'm not a charity.

Simple. Because this in real life, perfect people don't exist. Everyone has flaws and imperfections, and bits about themselves that they don't like.

Sorry if you go around with a tape-measure, a set of bathroom scales and the Dulux paint chart, but I happen to believe that it's possible to meet someone who matches 9 out of 10 of my preferences, and still have a good time.

But there was I thinking that this site was about more than just getting your leg over with 'Mr. Perfect'...

"

I state again, I'm not a charity. If I don't find you attractive, I'm not meeting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why? Why should I consider someone who deviates from what I'm looking for as a potential meet? To give them 'a chance'? I'm not a charity.

I'm not asking for 'charity'...I'm just suggesting that people should make more of an effort to look past the minor 'flaws' that they see in other people, rather than hunting in vain for unattainable perfection..."

it's not unattainable though.

i don't even ask for my preferences because plenty of guys within them contact me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I actually find females from couples approaching me ruder than single males. Speak to me like I'm an escort. "

How does one speak to an escorts?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am always polite with my messages but at the end of the day its often looks that count on here more than manners(by the way that's not me complaining, it is what it is)

I've often wondered if I'm not pushy enough on here as I find some great ladies who chat but I don't seem to progress to a meet and fun

I can't change my personality though and wouldn't resort to not being polite just to get a meet

Sometimes it isn't looks.

I fairly often decline meets with guys who I do find attractive, and might meet after the exchange of a few messages, simply because I'm already chatting to a few people and trying to find time to meet them.

Sometimes I say please get back to me in a few weeks but then I have to remember who they are and hope I have free time when, if, they do. Hence sometimes it's just easier to say no thanks, particularly if they're some distance away, or I'm not sure if they're a yes or a no.

I think people tend to assume it's their looks when turned down but sometimes it can be as simple as circumstances."

If this happens to me, I ask if they will accept a friend request, that way I don't lose them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some guys think this is effectively an online catalogue of free prostitutes they can choose from. I frequently get messages from guys listing what they want, like they think they're ordering from a menu.

"

I have lost count of the messages I have had from guys saying something like: "I am in the xxxHotel, room XX, pop round at 8pm and I will give you a good seeing-to"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not all guys are rude and I know that you aren't for one minute suggesting that.

I'm a nice guy and have actually been rejected for being too nice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am always polite with my messages but at the end of the day its often looks that count on here more than manners(by the way that's not me complaining, it is what it is)

I've often wondered if I'm not pushy enough on here as I find some great ladies who chat but I don't seem to progress to a meet and fun

I can't change my personality though and wouldn't resort to not being polite just to get a meet

Sometimes it isn't looks.

I fairly often decline meets with guys who I do find attractive, and might meet after the exchange of a few messages, simply because I'm already chatting to a few people and trying to find time to meet them.

Sometimes I say please get back to me in a few weeks but then I have to remember who they are and hope I have free time when, if, they do. Hence sometimes it's just easier to say no thanks, particularly if they're some distance away, or I'm not sure if they're a yes or a no.

I think people tend to assume it's their looks when turned down but sometimes it can be as simple as circumstances.

If this happens to me, I ask if they will accept a friend request, that way I don't lose them!"

And if they are like many on here who don't accept friend requests before meeting what then? I don't so I'm asking. For me if someone has chatted but then goes cold for a couple weeks I just make a note ...'they're not interested ' against their profile or just block and move on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately there are some small minded idiots but I hope there in the minority here.

The block button is your friend here. Good luck with the site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not just blokes ...I've had messages very abrupt off women saying .....not interested, or you don't do it for me . Or your not my type.....to me that's rude especially wen u make the effort to as a nice message to them"

Im one of those women who do reply with a 'your not my type' because some men are not my type! i have to be sexually attracted to them to have sex, first and foremost!

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By *ymph and ManicCouple
over a year ago

North East


"Rudeness acts as a great filter "
... great advice ... take heed and learn from it ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only thing I would point out is that "people" are rude. Not just guys: girls and couples can be just as rude, and if anything, with a certain sense of entitlement they assume guys are there to take what they are given and are supposed to be grateful.

People are rude: not necessary, completely uncalled for and just plain lack of manners and decency.

A lot of guys are entitled too.

Some think all the women on this site are here to service them, on demand. They think we should all be willing to shag anyone who asks at the drop of a hat.

If they fancy us, or even if they think we'll do, it's a done deal. They are here because they want sex so we must also want sex. They have a cock and can provide sex so we're a perfect match. It doesn't occur to them we have our own wants and needs.

Some guys think this is effectively an online catalogue of free prostitutes they can choose from. I frequently get messages from guys listing what they want, like they think they're ordering from a menu.

A high proportion of the guys that think that way get nasty when told no.

We're here, flaunting ourselves, but we won't put out. We're cockteases. We're timewasters, (that 30 seconds they spent looking at our photos and typing "fancy a fuck" was totally wasted!). We're arrogant princesses who think we're too good for them. We shouldn't be on this site if we don't want to fuck (because obviously it couldn't just be them we don't want to fuck. It's our fault. We're frigid or stuck-up).

But it's fine because we were too fat and ugly for them anyway. They didn't really want to fuck us.

They can't understand it. They want sex, we want sex, they can do sex, so they're as good as anybody else, right?

"But whhhhhy will you only meet men taller than you? We're all the same height lying down. I can fuck just as well as a taller man""

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some women and couples are rude as well.

I just been blocked by someone because when they asked if I do bareback I said no only after we know each other better.that was it blocked!!!"

Do you remember their screen name ? PM is for a friend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people are idiots. I'm a lovely gent here to chat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ohh brother another man bashing thread

This will accomplish 2 things.

1) Women complaining about too many messages to reply to all.

My God , A man emailed you a on a sex site and wanted sex Ohh the horror . He didn't put the key word " Coffee meet " so I'll just delete and block. He didn't read my profile , I won't meet just anybody , I have to much mail.

I think some of the posters that complain in threads , just want to remind us all how great they are and that they get so much attention online.

2) Calling card for the white knights

You will get men apologizing for another man's behavior. They will Say they would never do that , and my personal favorite. It's because of this that real men can't get a chance/meet.

The internet is not a new invention. Please take everything with a grain of salt and don't get so emotional about things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In our experience men are seldom rude but many first messages from men are crude

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"That's not quite the same thing though.

The guys are looking through the site, deciding who they want and expecting it to be delivered when they want it, like ordering from a catalogue

I never said that there was anything wrong with using your profile to tell people what traits you happen to find desirable in a partner.

Everyone has particular traits - physical, emotional, psychological - that they're attracted to.

I simply wished to draw attention to the fact that the 'online catalogue' behaviour is not a gender-exclusive phenomenon.

I do not take issue with people expressing preferences in the people they meet. The people to whom my previous post refered are those who rule out potential meets purely on the basis of an immutable characteristic.

In other words, I am distinguishing between people who say:

"I would prefer to meet someone who is over six feet tall."

And people who say:

"People under six feet tall need not apply."

Or even worse:

"No midgets."

"

You've missed the point totally.

Saying you'll only meet people 6ft+ is different to finding someone on here that is 6ft+ and thnking because you want to meet them, and because they are on here, you have an automatic right to them and to expect them to be delivered to you when you want and do what you want.

Now, I'm not saying some women and couples don't also do this but my comment was a response to the post accusing women and couples of having a sense of entitlement.

So, someone says the women and couples here are rude and feel entitled. I say actually a lot of the men feel as entitled if not more so.

And your response is to point out it's not just men, and bring profile specifics into it?

It's not about profiles and my comment was in response to the claim that women and couples act entitled on here.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"I actually find females from couples approaching me ruder than single males. Speak to me like I'm an escort.

How does one speak to an escorts? "

Like they are offering a service, I expect.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Having a list of desirable features isn't the same as contacting someone as if they are here as a commodity available to be ordered (and feeling entitled to get it).

I never said they were the same thing.

However, I wasn't even referring to the mass of people who express their preferences on their profile, or list those traits that they find particularly desirable.

I was referring to a small minority of people, of whatever gender, who take the attitude that someone who deviates - however slightly - from a long list of rigid criteria is not worth considering as a potential meet.

"

It's not the same thing!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Having a list of desirable features isn't the same as contacting someone as if they are here as a commodity available to be ordered (and feeling entitled to get it).

I never said they were the same thing.

However, I wasn't even referring to the mass of people who express their preferences on their profile, or list those traits that they find particularly desirable.

I was referring to a small minority of people, of whatever gender, who take the attitude that someone who deviates - however slightly - from a long list of rigid criteria is not worth considering as a potential meet.

Why? Why should I consider someone who deviates from what I'm looking for as a potential meet? To give them 'a chance'?

I'm not a charity."

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By *iguy39Man
over a year ago

manchester

We just fucking are ok? And obsessed with sending cock pics to all and sundry! Now piss off, I'm watching the football

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Having a list of desirable features isn't the same as contacting someone as if they are here as a commodity available to be ordered (and feeling entitled to get it).

I never said they were the same thing.

However, I wasn't even referring to the mass of people who express their preferences on their profile, or list those traits that they find particularly desirable.

I was referring to a small minority of people, of whatever gender, who take the attitude that someone who deviates - however slightly - from a long list of rigid criteria is not worth considering as a potential meet.

It's not the same thing!"

I say again: I never said they were the same thing.

In fact, you just quoted me as saying that I never said that they were the same thing...

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Why? Why should I consider someone who deviates from what I'm looking for as a potential meet? To give them 'a chance'?

I'm not a charity.

Simple. Because this in real life, perfect people don't exist. Everyone has flaws and imperfections, and bits about themselves that they don't like.

Sorry if you go around with a tape-measure, a set of bathroom scales and the Dulux paint chart, but I happen to believe that it's possible to meet someone who matches 9 out of 10 of my preferences, and still have a good time.

But there was I thinking that this site was about more than just getting your leg over with 'Mr. Perfect'...

"

That's your choice.

Everyone else is free to make their own decision about who they meet.

Expecting someone to be flexible and meet you even though you aren't what they are looking for is another example of the sense of entitlement some men have!

You're basically saying it's a sex site so people should be willing to meet for sex even if you're not what they want because "that's the point of the site"!

Talk about not getting it!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Having a list of desirable features isn't the same as contacting someone as if they are here as a commodity available to be ordered (and feeling entitled to get it).

I never said they were the same thing.

However, I wasn't even referring to the mass of people who express their preferences on their profile, or list those traits that they find particularly desirable.

I was referring to a small minority of people, of whatever gender, who take the attitude that someone who deviates - however slightly - from a long list of rigid criteria is not worth considering as a potential meet.

It's not the same thing!

I say again: I never said they were the same thing.

In fact, you just quoted me as saying that I never said that they were the same thing..."

So why try to bring them into my point at all?!

The discussion went:

'Men can be rude but women and couples are rude too and often have a sense of entitlement'

'A lot of men also have a sense of entitlement' followed by a description of behaviour demonstrating my point.

They you saying yes but why restrict the argument to men, (when I hadn't because I was making the point it's ALSO men), and describing something that is nothing to do with the point I was making.

What anyone has on their profile is not relevant to anyone having the idea they can pick someone from the site and demand they be washed and brought to their room!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Now, I'm not saying some women and couples don't also do this but my comment was a response to the post accusing women and couples of having a sense of entitlement.

So, someone says the women and couples here are rude and feel entitled. I say actually a lot of

the men feel as entitled if not more so.

And your response is to point out it's not just men, and bring profile specifics into it?

It's not about profiles and my comment was in response to the claim that women and couples act entitled on here."

Oh, so it doesn't qualify as 'entitlement' if you're using your profile to treat other users like they're new cars or new household appliances?

Having 'a sense of entitlement' doesn't just mean that you think someone should spread their legs whenever you demand sexual engagement.

Entitlement also applies to the belief that you feel that you have the right to insult and ridicule people who do not match your desired criteria.

That is something I've experienced from men, women and couples.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Now, I'm not saying some women and couples don't also do this but my comment was a response to the post accusing women and couples of having a sense of entitlement.

So, someone says the women and couples here are rude and feel entitled. I say actually a lot of

the men feel as entitled if not more so.

And your response is to point out it's not just men, and bring profile specifics into it?

It's not about profiles and my comment was in response to the claim that women and couples act entitled on here.

Oh, so it doesn't qualify as 'entitlement' if you're using your profile to treat other users like they're new cars or new household appliances?

Having 'a sense of entitlement' doesn't just mean that you think someone should spread their legs whenever you demand sexual engagement.

Entitlement also applies to the belief that you feel that you have the right to insult and ridicule people who do not match your desired criteria.

That is something I've experienced from men, women and couples."

No. For the final time, knowing what you want and sticking to your preferences is NOT the same as expecting everyone you want to meet to have sex with you!

You never mentioned insulting or ridiculing anyone. You're only bringing that in now to try to bolster your weak argument.

No, being abusive is not ok but it's different to knowing exactly what you want and sticking to it.

People DO have a right (ARE entitled) to meet only who they choose to meet and to have a long list of preferences.

People DO NOT (are NOT entitled) to sex with anyone just because they want sex with them and they are on this site.

Feeling entitled to one is reasonable whereas feeling entitled to the other is not.

You say you know they are not the same, that you've stated they're not the same yet you are continually saying they are the same, (i.e. an unreasonable sense of entitlement).

Entitlement to stick to preferences and meet only whom you want = ok and perfectly reasonable.

Entitlement to sex with whomever takes your fancy = not ok.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone else is free to make their own decision about who they meet.

Expecting someone to be flexible and meet you even though you aren't what they are looking for is another example of the sense of entitlement some men have!

You're basically saying it's a sex site so people should be willing to meet for sex even if you're not what they want because "that's the point of the site"!

Talk about not getting it! "

Actually, I don't have any problem 'getting it.'

If you actually bothered to READ what I wrote, you would see that I was not even referring to meeting for sex.

I actually said that this site should be about MORE than just getting your leg over with your ideal partner...

I joined this site because I was told that it was not just a 'sex site,' but a way to meet new and interesting people...that's why most of my meets have been socials, with no sex involved...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People DO have a right (ARE entitled) to meet only who they choose to meet and to have a long list of preferences.

People DO NOT (are NOT entitled) to sex with anyone just because they want sex with them and they are on this site..

You say you know they are not the same, that you've stated they're not the same yet you are continually saying they are the same, (i.e. an unreasonable sense of entitlement)."

When did I say that 'people are entitled to sex with anyone just because they want sex with them and they are on this site'?

Rather than put words in my mouth, or twist my words to suit your purposes, SHOW ME where I made that argument.

I have also made it quite clear on these forums that I support peoples' rights to make their preferences clear, because everyone has physical, emotional or psychological characteristics that they find attractive or desirable.

However, there's a big difference between having a list of preferences, and refusing to countenance the possibility of even speaking with someone who deviates in any particular from an unattainable ideal...

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"People DO have a right (ARE entitled) to meet only who they choose to meet and to have a long list of preferences.

People DO NOT (are NOT entitled) to sex with anyone just because they want sex with them and they are on this site..

You say you know they are not the same, that you've stated they're not the same yet you are continually saying they are the same, (i.e. an unreasonable sense of entitlement).

When did I say that 'people are entitled to sex with anyone just because they want sex with them and they are on this site'?

Rather than put words in my mouth, or twist my words to suit your purposes, SHOW ME where I made that argument.

I have also made it quite clear on these forums that I support peoples' rights to make their preferences clear, because everyone has physical, emotional or psychological characteristics that they find attractive or desirable.

However, there's a big difference between having a list of preferences, and refusing to countenance the possibility of even speaking with someone who deviates in any particular from an unattainable ideal..."

Oh FFS, I didn't say you said that!

That's what I was talking about, in response to someone else's comment about entitlement, when you quoted me and started going on about something totally different as if it was the same!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For the final time, knowing what you want and sticking to your preferences is NOT the same as expecting everyone you want to meet to have sex with you!"

For the final time, I never said they were the same thing!

I do not 'expect everyone you want to meet to have sex with you. I simply ask that people consider the possibility that it might be possible to spend a pleasant evening with someone who only fits 9 out of 10 of your requirements...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That's what I was talking about, in response to someone else's comment about entitlement, when you quoted me and started going on about something totally different as if it was the same!"

I did not say they were the same; I said that they were similar.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"However, there's a big difference between having a list of preferences, and refusing to countenance the possibility of even speaking with someone who deviates in any particular from an unattainable ideal..."

No, there is not.

People ARE entitled to meet, or even speak to, whomever they like.

Expecting people to speak to you and consider meeting you when they have no interest in doing so, because you consider yourself a close enough match, is another example of unreasonable entitlement!

You're demonstrating the right some men (and some women/couples) on here think they have to chat to and meet people who aren't interested in them!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"For the final time, knowing what you want and sticking to your preferences is NOT the same as expecting everyone you want to meet to have sex with you!

For the final time, I never said they were the same thing!

I do not 'expect everyone you want to meet to have sex with you. I simply ask that people consider the possibility that it might be possible to spend a pleasant evening with someone who only fits 9 out of 10 of your requirements..."

NO!

If I want to require 10 out of 10 of my requirements, it's my choice, not yours!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For the final time, knowing what you want and sticking to your preferences is NOT the same as expecting everyone you want to meet to have sex with you!

For the final time, I never said they were the same thing!

I do not 'expect everyone you want to meet to have sex with you. I simply ask that people consider the possibility that it might be possible to spend a pleasant evening with someone who only fits 9 out of 10 of your requirements...

NO!

If I want to require 10 out of 10 of my requirements, it's my choice, not yours!"

So are you two meeting or not??!!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"That's what I was talking about, in response to someone else's comment about entitlement, when you quoted me and started going on about something totally different as if it was the same!

I did not say they were the same; I said that they were similar."

You didn't.

You quoted my post and commented as if they were the same thing.

Look, your idea that you are entitled to have people who aren't interested in you talk to you and consider meeting you, is clearly very deeply ingrained. That is, unfortunately, the case with quite a few other men, women and couples on this site.

People have a right to ask for whatever they want but they don't have a right to expect anything of anyone, such as expecting them to chat to you and consider meeting if they aren't interest, even if you think you are a close enough match.

I don't think you're going to be able to grasp that though so I'm giving up.

It's not like it actually matters whether you understand it. People will still not chat to and not meet those they don't want to chat to and meet.

I'm done beating my head against the desk. I've got more interesting things to do.

Best of luck convincing people who aren't interested in you to chat and meet though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Expecting people to speak to you and consider meeting you when they have no interest in doing so, because you consider yourself a close enough match, is another example of unreasonable entitlement!

You're demonstrating the right some men (and some women/couples) on here think they have to chat to and meet people who aren't interested in them!"

Again, you're twisting my words to suit your purposes.

I do not 'expect' anyone to speak to me or 'consider meeting me' if they have no interest in me. Nor have I ever made that claim.

My only point is that if this site is REALLY about more that just getting yourself laid, why does it matter if someone is an inch shorter than your ideal height, or a few months older than your maximum ideal age, or is of a particular ethnicity?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"For the final time, knowing what you want and sticking to your preferences is NOT the same as expecting everyone you want to meet to have sex with you!

For the final time, I never said they were the same thing!

I do not 'expect everyone you want to meet to have sex with you. I simply ask that people consider the possibility that it might be possible to spend a pleasant evening with someone who only fits 9 out of 10 of your requirements...

NO!

If I want to require 10 out of 10 of my requirements, it's my choice, not yours!

So are you two meeting or not??!! "

I decline to comment.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


"Expecting people to speak to you and consider meeting you when they have no interest in doing so, because you consider yourself a close enough match, is another example of unreasonable entitlement!

You're demonstrating the right some men (and some women/couples) on here think they have to chat to and meet people who aren't interested in them!

Again, you're twisting my words to suit your purposes.

I do not 'expect' anyone to speak to me or 'consider meeting me' if they have no interest in me. Nor have I ever made that claim.

My only point is that if this site is REALLY about more that just getting yourself laid, why does it matter if someone is an inch shorter than your ideal height, or a few months older than your maximum ideal age, or is of a particular ethnicity?"

it matters because it won't boost these womens already falsely inflated egos.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Expecting people to speak to you and consider meeting you when they have no interest in doing so, because you consider yourself a close enough match, is another example of unreasonable entitlement!

You're demonstrating the right some men (and some women/couples) on here think they have to chat to and meet people who aren't interested in them!

Again, you're twisting my words to suit your purposes.

I do not 'expect' anyone to speak to me or 'consider meeting me' if they have no interest in me. Nor have I ever made that claim.

My only point is that if this site is REALLY about more that just getting yourself laid, why does it matter if someone is an inch shorter than your ideal height, or a few months older than your maximum ideal age, or is of a particular ethnicity?

it matters because it won't boost these womens already falsely inflated egos."

You really can't help yourself, can you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Expecting people to speak to you and consider meeting you when they have no interest in doing so, because you consider yourself a close enough match, is another example of unreasonable entitlement!

You're demonstrating the right some men (and some women/couples) on here think they have to chat to and meet people who aren't interested in them!

Again, you're twisting my words to suit your purposes.

I do not 'expect' anyone to speak to me or 'consider meeting me' if they have no interest in me. Nor have I ever made that claim.

My only point is that if this site is REALLY about more that just getting yourself laid, why does it matter if someone is an inch shorter than your ideal height, or a few months older than your maximum ideal age, or is of a particular ethnicity? it matters because it won't boost these womens already falsely inflated egos."

Supply and demand?

More to the point, if you think someone has an inflated ego, why not ignore?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

But since we're back to it being about women again...

It's not women, it's some people. People. Of all sexes.

There are arrogant, entitled people of all sexes on here as well as some bitter ones and, thankfully, some lovely ones.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Expecting people to speak to you and consider meeting you when they have no interest in doing so, because you consider yourself a close enough match, is another example of unreasonable entitlement!

You're demonstrating the right some men (and some women/couples) on here think they have to chat to and meet people who aren't interested in them!

Again, you're twisting my words to suit your purposes.

I do not 'expect' anyone to speak to me or 'consider meeting me' if they have no interest in me. Nor have I ever made that claim.

My only point is that if this site is REALLY about more that just getting yourself laid, why does it matter if someone is an inch shorter than your ideal height, or a few months older than your maximum ideal age, or is of a particular ethnicity?"

most people don't waste their time on those they don't find attractive because usually these men then try to talk them into sex. i have very few actual friends on here and even some of those piss me off trying to get me to do things i don't want to do.

you have to prove yourself as not pushy, as friendly, as 'nice' if you want people to be friends and many guys cannot do that.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


"Expecting people to speak to you and consider meeting you when they have no interest in doing so, because you consider yourself a close enough match, is another example of unreasonable entitlement!

You're demonstrating the right some men (and some women/couples) on here think they have to chat to and meet people who aren't interested in them!

Again, you're twisting my words to suit your purposes.

I do not 'expect' anyone to speak to me or 'consider meeting me' if they have no interest in me. Nor have I ever made that claim.

My only point is that if this site is REALLY about more that just getting yourself laid, why does it matter if someone is an inch shorter than your ideal height, or a few months older than your maximum ideal age, or is of a particular ethnicity? it matters because it won't boost these womens already falsely inflated egos.

Supply and demand?

More to the point, if you think someone has an inflated ego, why not ignore? "

I do avoid them I meet conventionally attractive. I wouldn't go near the delusional 1's

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if this site is REALLY about more that just getting yourself laid, why does it matter if someone is an inch shorter than your ideal height, or a few months older than your maximum ideal age, or is of a particular ethnicity?

it matters because it won't boost these womens already falsely inflated egos."

No call for abuse.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


"Expecting people to speak to you and consider meeting you when they have no interest in doing so, because you consider yourself a close enough match, is another example of unreasonable entitlement!

You're demonstrating the right some men (and some women/couples) on here think they have to chat to and meet people who aren't interested in them!

Again, you're twisting my words to suit your purposes.

I do not 'expect' anyone to speak to me or 'consider meeting me' if they have no interest in me. Nor have I ever made that claim.

My only point is that if this site is REALLY about more that just getting yourself laid, why does it matter if someone is an inch shorter than your ideal height, or a few months older than your maximum ideal age, or is of a particular ethnicity?

it matters because it won't boost these womens already falsely inflated egos.

You really can't help yourself, can you?

"

neither can you, you have a sense of entitlement just because you are a woman on a sex site

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Expecting people to speak to you and consider meeting you when they have no interest in doing so, because you consider yourself a close enough match, is another example of unreasonable entitlement!

You're demonstrating the right some men (and some women/couples) on here think they have to chat to and meet people who aren't interested in them!

Again, you're twisting my words to suit your purposes.

I do not 'expect' anyone to speak to me or 'consider meeting me' if they have no interest in me. Nor have I ever made that claim.

My only point is that if this site is REALLY about more that just getting yourself laid, why does it matter if someone is an inch shorter than your ideal height, or a few months older than your maximum ideal age, or is of a particular ethnicity?

most people don't waste their time on those they don't find attractive because usually these men then try to talk them into sex. i have very few actual friends on here and even some of those piss me off trying to get me to do things i don't want to do.

you have to prove yourself as not pushy, as friendly, as 'nice' if you want people to be friends and many guys cannot do that."

Also, some people just aren't looking for random friends. They want people they are sexually compatible with, either for friendship or just sex.

I have a few friends on here, most of whom I met at socials, I don't want to shag (or who don't want to shag me). However, mostly I'm interested in people with whom a mutual attraction exists.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


"if this site is REALLY about more that just getting yourself laid, why does it matter if someone is an inch shorter than your ideal height, or a few months older than your maximum ideal age, or is of a particular ethnicity?

it matters because it won't boost these womens already falsely inflated egos.

No call for abuse."

calm down white knight that wasn't abuse

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Expecting people to speak to you and consider meeting you when they have no interest in doing so, because you consider yourself a close enough match, is another example of unreasonable entitlement!

You're demonstrating the right some men (and some women/couples) on here think they have to chat to and meet people who aren't interested in them!

Again, you're twisting my words to suit your purposes.

I do not 'expect' anyone to speak to me or 'consider meeting me' if they have no interest in me. Nor have I ever made that claim.

My only point is that if this site is REALLY about more that just getting yourself laid, why does it matter if someone is an inch shorter than your ideal height, or a few months older than your maximum ideal age, or is of a particular ethnicity?

it matters because it won't boost these womens already falsely inflated egos.

You really can't help yourself, can you?

neither can you, you have a sense of entitlement just because you are a woman on a sex site "

Oh give it a rest.

The only thing I feel entitled to is meeting only the people I want to meet (who want to meet me). Regardless of what anyone else might think I deserve.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


"Expecting people to speak to you and consider meeting you when they have no interest in doing so, because you consider yourself a close enough match, is another example of unreasonable entitlement!

You're demonstrating the right some men (and some women/couples) on here think they have to chat to and meet people who aren't interested in them!

Again, you're twisting my words to suit your purposes.

I do not 'expect' anyone to speak to me or 'consider meeting me' if they have no interest in me. Nor have I ever made that claim.

My only point is that if this site is REALLY about more that just getting yourself laid, why does it matter if someone is an inch shorter than your ideal height, or a few months older than your maximum ideal age, or is of a particular ethnicity?

it matters because it won't boost these womens already falsely inflated egos.

You really can't help yourself, can you?

neither can you, you have a sense of entitlement just because you are a woman on a sex site

Oh give it a rest.

The only thing I feel entitled to is meeting only the people I want to meet (who want to meet me). Regardless of what anyone else might think I deserve."

pfffft changed your tune, you expect exceptional apparently

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if this site is REALLY about more that just getting yourself laid, why does it matter if someone is an inch shorter than your ideal height, or a few months older than your maximum ideal age, or is of a particular ethnicity?

it matters because it won't boost these womens already falsely inflated egos.

No call for abuse. calm down white knight that wasn't abuse "

Sure it wasn't...

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Expecting people to speak to you and consider meeting you when they have no interest in doing so, because you consider yourself a close enough match, is another example of unreasonable entitlement!

You're demonstrating the right some men (and some women/couples) on here think they have to chat to and meet people who aren't interested in them!

Again, you're twisting my words to suit your purposes.

I do not 'expect' anyone to speak to me or 'consider meeting me' if they have no interest in me. Nor have I ever made that claim.

My only point is that if this site is REALLY about more that just getting yourself laid, why does it matter if someone is an inch shorter than your ideal height, or a few months older than your maximum ideal age, or is of a particular ethnicity?

it matters because it won't boost these womens already falsely inflated egos.

You really can't help yourself, can you?

neither can you, you have a sense of entitlement just because you are a woman on a sex site

Oh give it a rest.

The only thing I feel entitled to is meeting only the people I want to meet (who want to meet me). Regardless of what anyone else might think I deserve. pfffft changed your tune, you expect exceptional apparently"

But I don't expect anyone to meet me just because I want to meet them, which is what we've been discussing.

Wanting to meet only people one finds exceptional isn't unreasonable.

And it seems you completely missed that exceptional can come in many forms from the "Exception men" thread.

As I pointed out earlier, some things we are all entitled to, (like our preferences and meeting only those we want to meet) and things we are not, any of us, entitled to, (like thinking anyone here is a free prostitute or meeting people who aren't interested in us).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Expecting people to speak to you and consider meeting you when they have no interest in doing so, because you consider yourself a close enough match, is another example of unreasonable entitlement!

You're demonstrating the right some men (and some women/couples) on here think they have to chat to and meet people who aren't interested in them!

Again, you're twisting my words to suit your purposes.

I do not 'expect' anyone to speak to me or 'consider meeting me' if they have no interest in me. Nor have I ever made that claim.

My only point is that if this site is REALLY about more that just getting yourself laid, why does it matter if someone is an inch shorter than your ideal height, or a few months older than your maximum ideal age, or is of a particular ethnicity?

it matters because it won't boost these womens already falsely inflated egos.

You really can't help yourself, can you?

neither can you, you have a sense of entitlement just because you are a woman on a sex site

Oh give it a rest.

The only thing I feel entitled to is meeting only the people I want to meet (who want to meet me). Regardless of what anyone else might think I deserve."

Wasn't suggesting that you 'deserve' anything.

I simply suggested that you consider looking beyond the 10/10, because there's no such thing as 'perfect.'

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

And yes, I think I deserve men I consider exceptional, if they are also interested in me. Happily, some are.

Anyone who doesn't think they are worthy of meeting people they find exceptional is selling themselves short and needs to work on their self esteem.

But like I said, exceptional comes in many forms.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Expecting people to speak to you and consider meeting you when they have no interest in doing so, because you consider yourself a close enough match, is another example of unreasonable entitlement!

You're demonstrating the right some men (and some women/couples) on here think they have to chat to and meet people who aren't interested in them!

Again, you're twisting my words to suit your purposes.

I do not 'expect' anyone to speak to me or 'consider meeting me' if they have no interest in me. Nor have I ever made that claim.

My only point is that if this site is REALLY about more that just getting yourself laid, why does it matter if someone is an inch shorter than your ideal height, or a few months older than your maximum ideal age, or is of a particular ethnicity?

it matters because it won't boost these womens already falsely inflated egos.

You really can't help yourself, can you?

neither can you, you have a sense of entitlement just because you are a woman on a sex site

Oh give it a rest.

The only thing I feel entitled to is meeting only the people I want to meet (who want to meet me). Regardless of what anyone else might think I deserve.

Wasn't suggesting that you 'deserve' anything.

I simply suggested that you consider looking beyond the 10/10, because there's no such thing as 'perfect.'"

The "deserve" comment was to the other guy. He thinks he is arbiter lf whom other people "deserve" to meet. He said so recently on a thread called "exception men"

He has an issue with women meeting, or wanting to meet, men he thinks are more attractive than they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow 10 out 10 requirements if I see a profile with a list of demands I just avoid, does anyone every think that there is real people behind a profile, ok this is a swinger's/ sex site what every way you look at it,so if a person reserves a massage from a member it does not mean to me anyway that you are going to have sex with them straight away or if ever, a profile does not tell a hole lot about the person behind it, to me it about the person and how they can handle a chat with people, but it is so hard to get past the first massage with people because they live in dreamland,remember this tread was about why are single guys so nasty, but read this tread all sections are guilty...

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


"And yes, I think I deserve men I consider exceptional, if they are also interested in me. Happily, some are.

Anyone who doesn't think they are worthy of meeting people they find exceptional is selling themselves short and needs to work on their self esteem.

But like I said, exceptional comes in many forms."

do you think these types of men would want to meet you if it wasn't because you were on a sex site and they think it could be easy sex?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And yes, I think I deserve men I consider exceptional, if they are also interested in me. Happily, some are.

Anyone who doesn't think they are worthy of meeting people they find exceptional is selling themselves short and needs to work on their self esteem.

But like I said, exceptional comes in many forms. do you think these types of men would want to meet you if it wasn't because you were on a sex site and they think it could be easy sex? "

That is abusive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And yes, I think I deserve men I consider exceptional, if they are also interested in me. Happily, some are.

Anyone who doesn't think they are worthy of meeting people they find exceptional is selling themselves short and needs to work on their self esteem.

But like I said, exceptional comes in many forms."

Nice, so now I have 'low self-esteem' and am 'selling myself short' simply because I don't just meet 'exceptional' people, but am happy to meet a broad demographic?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And yes, I think I deserve men I consider exceptional, if they are also interested in me. Happily, some are.

Anyone who doesn't think they are worthy of meeting people they find exceptional is selling themselves short and needs to work on their self esteem.

But like I said, exceptional comes in many forms. do you think these types of men would want to meet you if it wasn't because you were on a sex site and they think it could be easy sex?

That is abusive."

Indeed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The "deserve" comment was to the other guy. He thinks he is arbiter lf whom other people "deserve" to meet. He said so recently on a thread called "exception men"

He has an issue with women meeting, or wanting to meet, men he thinks are more attractive than they are."

In that case, apologies.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I think it's better to just block them, once you get a message that indicates that they're not looking for the same delights as you are, particularly when they're rather a little too blunt.

They want an open hole: they should buy a fleshlight type toy.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


"Expecting people to speak to you and consider meeting you when they have no interest in doing so, because you consider yourself a close enough match, is another example of unreasonable entitlement!

You're demonstrating the right some men (and some women/couples) on here think they have to chat to and meet people who aren't interested in them!

Again, you're twisting my words to suit your purposes.

I do not 'expect' anyone to speak to me or 'consider meeting me' if they have no interest in me. Nor have I ever made that claim.

My only point is that if this site is REALLY about more that just getting yourself laid, why does it matter if someone is an inch shorter than your ideal height, or a few months older than your maximum ideal age, or is of a particular ethnicity?

it matters because it won't boost these womens already falsely inflated egos.

You really can't help yourself, can you?

neither can you, you have a sense of entitlement just because you are a woman on a sex site

Oh give it a rest.

The only thing I feel entitled to is meeting only the people I want to meet (who want to meet me). Regardless of what anyone else might think I deserve.

Wasn't suggesting that you 'deserve' anything.

I simply suggested that you consider looking beyond the 10/10, because there's no such thing as 'perfect.'

The "deserve" comment was to the other guy. He thinks he is arbiter lf whom other people "deserve" to meet. He said so recently on a thread called "exception men"

He has an issue with women meeting, or wanting to meet, men he thinks are more attractive than they are."

you are mistaken again I said a lot of people not me specifically, I said I don't blame them just be realistic about the reasons why that's all.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


"And yes, I think I deserve men I consider exceptional, if they are also interested in me. Happily, some are.

Anyone who doesn't think they are worthy of meeting people they find exceptional is selling themselves short and needs to work on their self esteem.

But like I said, exceptional comes in many forms. do you think these types of men would want to meet you if it wasn't because you were on a sex site and they think it could be easy sex?

That is abusive."

it is a question not abuse, I mean easy sex in a sense it could happen first meet because of the openness already unlike say meeting for a conventional date.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"And yes, I think I deserve men I consider exceptional, if they are also interested in me. Happily, some are.

Anyone who doesn't think they are worthy of meeting people they find exceptional is selling themselves short and needs to work on their self esteem.

But like I said, exceptional comes in many forms.

do you think these types of men would want to meet you if it wasn't because you were on a sex site and they think it could be easy sex? "

I don't care because it's totally irrelevant.

If I want to meet them and they want to meet me, I don't care if we meet here, in a pub or in Tesco.

You don't seem to realise that there are also guys on here I might meet, whom I wouldn't be interested in if we encountered each other in day-to-day life first.

You think physical appearance is the be all and end all to sexual attraction. To you, it may be, but not everyone is like you. Not even every man is like you. Not even close.

I know it irritates you that fat, plain women can look for, and get, men you think they don't "deserve" but one day you might realise that what you think others deserve is totally irrelevant, except in relation to whether you want to meet them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And yes, I think I deserve men I consider exceptional, if they are also interested in me. Happily, some are.

Anyone who doesn't think they are worthy of meeting people they find exceptional is selling themselves short and needs to work on their self esteem.

But like I said, exceptional comes in many forms. do you think these types of men would want to meet you if it wasn't because you were on a sex site and they think it could be easy sex?

That is abusive. it is a question not abuse, I mean easy sex in a sense it could happen first meet because of the openness already unlike say meeting for a conventional date."

I'm going to miss you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And yes, I think I deserve men I consider exceptional, if they are also interested in me. Happily, some are.

Anyone who doesn't think they are worthy of meeting people they find exceptional is selling themselves short and needs to work on their self esteem.

But like I said, exceptional comes in many forms.

do you think these types of men would want to meet you if it wasn't because you were on a sex site and they think it could be easy sex?

I don't care because it's totally irrelevant.

If I want to meet them and they want to meet me, I don't care if we meet here, in a pub or in Tesco.

You don't seem to realise that there are also guys on here I might meet, whom I wouldn't be interested in if we encountered each other in day-to-day life first.

You think physical appearance is the be all and end all to sexual attraction. To you, it may be, but not everyone is like you. Not even every man is like you. Not even close.

I know it irritates you that fat, plain women can look for, and get, men you think they don't "deserve" but one day you might realise that what you think others deserve is totally irrelevant, except in relation to whether you want to meet them."

You're in rare form tonight

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"And yes, I think I deserve men I consider exceptional, if they are also interested in me. Happily, some are.

Anyone who doesn't think they are worthy of meeting people they find exceptional is selling themselves short and needs to work on their self esteem.

But like I said, exceptional comes in many forms.

Nice, so now I have 'low self-esteem' and am 'selling myself short' simply because I don't just meet 'exceptional' people, but am happy to meet a broad demographic?"

No, I'm talking about people who won't meet anyone they think is "too good for them".

An idea they get because people like Blonde run them down and tell them who they deserve and who is too good for them.

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By *eggaeloverMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"Why can't some guys on here be a little more polite?seriously.... Do I want to choke on your cock as a first message is a little off putting x"

Isn't that just being sexy and confident? I have only just found the.confidence to approach a woman like that.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


"And yes, I think I deserve men I consider exceptional, if they are also interested in me. Happily, some are.

Anyone who doesn't think they are worthy of meeting people they find exceptional is selling themselves short and needs to work on their self esteem.

But like I said, exceptional comes in many forms.

do you think these types of men would want to meet you if it wasn't because you were on a sex site and they think it could be easy sex?

I don't care because it's totally irrelevant.

If I want to meet them and they want to meet me, I don't care if we meet here, in a pub or in Tesco.

You don't seem to realise that there are also guys on here I might meet, whom I wouldn't be interested in if we encountered each other in day-to-day life first.

You think physical appearance is the be all and end all to sexual attraction. To you, it may be, but not everyone is like you. Not even every man is like you. Not even close.

I know it irritates you that fat, plain women can look for, and get, men you think they don't "deserve" but one day you might realise that what you think others deserve is totally irrelevant, except in relation to whether you want to meet them."

it doesnt really irritate me because I am not interested in them women anyway, I find it laughable that just because you are a woman on a sex site you can have a tremendous sense of entitlement. It shows more about how men are on here to be honest though.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


"And yes, I think I deserve men I consider exceptional, if they are also interested in me. Happily, some are.

Anyone who doesn't think they are worthy of meeting people they find exceptional is selling themselves short and needs to work on their self esteem.

But like I said, exceptional comes in many forms. do you think these types of men would want to meet you if it wasn't because you were on a sex site and they think it could be easy sex?

That is abusive. it is a question not abuse, I mean easy sex in a sense it could happen first meet because of the openness already unlike say meeting for a conventional date.

I'm going to miss you "

you too it's in the post I think.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"And yes, I think I deserve men I consider exceptional, if they are also interested in me. Happily, some are.

Anyone who doesn't think they are worthy of meeting people they find exceptional is selling themselves short and needs to work on their self esteem.

But like I said, exceptional comes in many forms.

do you think these types of men would want to meet you if it wasn't because you were on a sex site and they think it could be easy sex?

I don't care because it's totally irrelevant.

If I want to meet them and they want to meet me, I don't care if we meet here, in a pub or in Tesco.

You don't seem to realise that there are also guys on here I might meet, whom I wouldn't be interested in if we encountered each other in day-to-day life first.

You think physical appearance is the be all and end all to sexual attraction. To you, it may be, but not everyone is like you. Not even every man is like you. Not even close.

I know it irritates you that fat, plain women can look for, and get, men you think they don't "deserve" but one day you might realise that what you think others deserve is totally irrelevant, except in relation to whether you want to meet them.

it doesnt really irritate me because I am not interested in them women anyway, I find it laughable that just because you are a woman on a sex site you can have a tremendous sense of entitlement. It shows more about how men are on here to be honest though. "

And you show you still don't have a clue what a sense of entitlement actually is and you can't distinguish between things that people actually are entitled to and those that are unreasonable.

Of course it irritates you or you wouldn't keep going on about it. If it didn't bother you that you think some women have egos above their station, you'd just let them get on with it. Since you're not interested in them anyway and all.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Why can't some guys on here be a little more polite?seriously.... Do I want to choke on your cock as a first message is a little off putting x

Isn't that just being sexy and confident? I have only just found the.confidence to approach a woman like that."

I do hope you are joking!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wouldn't it be the height of rudeness and selfishness to force close a thread early!?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wouldn't it be the height of rudeness and selfishness to force close a thread early!? "

I think so..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wouldn't it be the height of rudeness and selfishness to force close a thread early!?

I think so.."

Although I'd never do such a thing

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