FabSwingers.com forum: Working class

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)? "

No but dogging is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)? "

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

No but dogging is"

Iam not sure I entirely agree, dogging and swinging are in my experiences

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think its fairly classless myself. But I'll take bets on a sizeable proportion of them being Middle Class.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?"

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool

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By *ervent_fervourMan
over a year ago

Halifax

For some reason I've got Rita, Sue, and Bob too in my head now.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)? "
not at all people from all walks of life do this, doctors lawyers etc some car parks full of middle class cars.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)? not at all people from all walks of life do this, doctors lawyers etc some car parks full of middle class cars."

Middle class cars??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool"

Ooohhh, I've gone on holday to Blackpool. I now know where I am in the British class system. Cheers!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool"

There can't be that many then. Blackpool is not as popular as it was.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most of the people we bump into seem to be professional types. Not exclusively by any means but certainly more than half.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

Middle class cars??"
what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool

There can't be that many then. Blackpool is not as popular as it was."

How do you know??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Middle class cars??"

Yes not top of the range but not base models either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool

There can't be that many then. Blackpool is not as popular as it was.

How do you know??"

Google is the fount of wisdom

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool

There can't be that many then. Blackpool is not as popular as it was.

How do you know??

Google is the fount of wisdom"

It is also full of contradictory bull shit

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

"Most of the people we bump into seem to be professional types. Not exclusively by any means but certainly more than half."
Professional types probably have more opportunity to engage in these activities .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Most of the people we bump into seem to be professional types. Not exclusively by any means but certainly more than half. Professional types probably have more opportunity to engage in these activities ."

How??

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

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well nice cars would indicate wealth wouldn't they. I don't ask peoples professions or anything unless they disclose them to me as it is considered a no no in these type of environments. Look I give you an answer to your naive question that's all

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

well nice cars would indicate wealth wouldn't they. I don't ask peoples professions or anything unless they disclose them to me as it is considered a no no in these type of environments. Look I give you an answer to your naive question that's all

Naive question?

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By *ivilizedkinkCouple
over a year ago

harrow

We've met all sorts in 11 years of being on the scene from judges to jugglers,financiers to just plain fuckers. It's a reflection of ordinary society

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool

There can't be that many then. Blackpool is not as popular as it was.

How do you know??

Google is the fount of wisdom

It is also full of contradictory bull shit

Indeed but a search for "dictionary" will yield useful results.

I have no idea why swinging would appeal more to someone on a low income. I would have thought that it appeals equally to all income brackets.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool

There can't be that many then. Blackpool is not as popular as it was.

How do you know??

Google is the fount of wisdom

It is also full of contradictory bull shit

Indeed but a search for "dictionary" will yield useful results.

I have no idea why swinging would appeal more to someone on a low income. I would have thought that it appeals equally to all income brackets."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What benchmarks are we setting here?

Income before being classed as middle class?

What car?

What jobs?

Give us something to define ourselves by OP

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

How??"
Probably more open minded and with generally higher income levels they have more control over their lives. The same probably applies to the self employed and owners of businesses .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What benchmarks are we setting here?

Income before being classed as middle class?

What car?

What jobs?

Give us something to define ourselves by OP

Have you gone to Blackpool on holiday?

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

Surely sex is classless

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

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These cars could be leased .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

How?? Probably more open minded and with generally higher income levels they have more control over their lives. The same probably applies to the self employed and owners of businesses ."

Good point, although the unemployed and part time workers tend to have plenty of free time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool"

So it's a northern thing?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Surely sex is classless"

It is, but is swinging and fabswingers class less??

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By *ivilizedkinkCouple
over a year ago

harrow

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What benchmarks are we setting here?

Income before being classed as middle class?

What car?

What jobs?

Give us something to define ourselves by OP

Have you gone to Blackpool on holiday?"

No, I have visited Blackpool, but I have never been on 'holiday' there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

No but dogging is"

Is it fuck !

The amount of lawyers , solicitors , and even a bloody judge that we meet would stagger you !

And bankers , the rich and sometimes even famous !

Look at the car parks where it takes place ... Aston Martins , Mercedes , Bentleys .....

Sorry guys , you're way off there !

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

"Surely sex is classless

It is, but is swinging and fabswingers class less??"

I would say yes...as posh Totti

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By *ivilizedkinkCouple
over a year ago

harrow

"What benchmarks are we setting here?

Income before being classed as middle class?

What car?

What jobs?

Give us something to define ourselves by OP

Have you gone to Blackpool on holiday?"

Loveday this nearly spat out my earl grey lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

No but dogging is

Is it fuck !

The amount of lawyers , solicitors , and even a bloody judge that we meet would stagger you !

And bankers , the rich and sometimes even famous !

Look at the car parks where it takes place ... Aston Martins , Mercedes , Bentleys .....

Sorry guys , you're way off there !

PMSL, Bentleys and Aston Martins? Judges? Was he wearing his wig?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

No but dogging is

Is it fuck !

The amount of lawyers , solicitors , and even a bloody judge that we meet would stagger you !

And bankers , the rich and sometimes even famous !

Look at the car parks where it takes place ... Aston Martins , Mercedes , Bentleys .....

Sorry guys , you're way off there !

PMSL, Bentleys and Aston Martins? Judges? Was he wearing his wig?"

Seriously .... He was on his way home after a court session , popped in and his attire was on the back seat . I so wanted to get pics of him wearing it , but to no avail !

And I would hardly call ourselves working class either , although the working class are the backbone of the country , and we have met all sorts on our journey .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's funny but I never think of dogging when wondering what the rich and famous get up to in their free time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)? "

No ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's funny but I never think of dogging when wondering what the rich and famous get up to in their free time

And that's the irony isn't it ?

The rich and famous look for a buzz , more so than most I guess .

So dogging gives it .....

George Michael , Stan Collymore , Freddie Mercury , to name but a few .

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool"

Do you holiday in Blackpool?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's funny but I never think of dogging when wondering what the rich and famous get up to in their free time

And that's the irony isn't it ?

The rich and famous look for a buzz , more so than most I guess .

So dogging gives it .....

George Michael , Stan Collymore , Freddie Mercury , to name but a few .

PMSL, Freddie Mercury? Are you making this up?

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool

Do you holiday in Blackpool?"

Seen your answer...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What benchmarks are we setting here?

Income before being classed as middle class?

What car?

What jobs?

Give us something to define ourselves by OP

Have you gone to Blackpool on holiday?"

Last time we were in Blackpool we were at infusion....so we were swinging in Blackpool! What does that make us?!?!?

Someone please label us!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

No but dogging is

Is it fuck !

The amount of lawyers , solicitors , and even a bloody judge that we meet would stagger you !

And bankers , the rich and sometimes even famous !

Look at the car parks where it takes place ... Aston Martins , Mercedes , Bentleys .....

Sorry guys , you're way off there !

PMSL, Bentleys and Aston Martins? Judges? Was he wearing his wig?

Seriously .... He was on his way home after a court session , popped in and his attire was on the back seat . I so wanted to get pics of him wearing it , but to no avail !

And I would hardly call ourselves working class either , although the working class are the backbone of the country , and we have met all sorts on our journey .

PMSL, I once had a 3 some with David Cameron and his wife, he was in Manchester campaigning on the EU vote , uncanny

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?"

No, that is Yorskhireman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

No but dogging is

Is it fuck !

The amount of lawyers , solicitors , and even a bloody judge that we meet would stagger you !

And bankers , the rich and sometimes even famous !

Look at the car parks where it takes place ... Aston Martins , Mercedes , Bentleys .....

Sorry guys , you're way off there !

Last time I went dogging I took the Bentley, much more room than the Aston

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What benchmarks are we setting here?

Income before being classed as middle class?

What car?

What jobs?

Give us something to define ourselves by OP

Have you gone to Blackpool on holiday?

Last time we were in Blackpool we were at infusion....so we were swinging in Blackpool! What does that make us?!?!?

Someone please label us!

Working class

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What benchmarks are we setting here?

Income before being classed as middle class?

What car?

What jobs?

Give us something to define ourselves by OP

Have you gone to Blackpool on holiday?

Last time we were in Blackpool we were at infusion....so we were swinging in Blackpool! What does that make us?!?!?

Someone please label us!

Working class "

But you don't know our income, jobs or what car we have.

How dare you be so judgemental and label us!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just done an online class test. Apparently we're established middle class

what does Unestablished middle class mean then?

Some of the questions are brilliant! Everyone should take one.

Do you listen to rap/hip-hop is genuinely on there

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)? "

So what exactly are your thoughts?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What benchmarks are we setting here?

Income before being classed as middle class?

What car?

What jobs?

Give us something to define ourselves by OP

Have you gone to Blackpool on holiday?

Last time we were in Blackpool we were at infusion....so we were swinging in Blackpool! What does that make us?!?!?

Someone please label us!

Working class

But you don't know our income, jobs or what car we have.

How dare you be so judgemental and label us!

PMSL, ok , why are you offended at being 'labelled' working class??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What benchmarks are we setting here?

Income before being classed as middle class?

What car?

What jobs?

Give us something to define ourselves by OP

Have you gone to Blackpool on holiday?

Last time we were in Blackpool we were at infusion....so we were swinging in Blackpool! What does that make us?!?!?

Someone please label us!

Working class

But you don't know our income, jobs or what car we have.

How dare you be so judgemental and label us!

PMSL, ok , why are you offended at being 'labelled' working class??"

You must understand working class humour....down't pits we call it sarcasm

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

So what exactly are your thoughts?"

From my experiences it is mostly working class, as it has been suggested before, it could be a northern thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

There is a fair amount of snobbery surrounding what you leave in the carpark. Cars such as fords and Vauxhalls are considered low rent and Chavy by many

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just done an online class test. Apparently we're established middle class

what does Unestablished middle class mean then?

Some of the questions are brilliant! Everyone should take one.

Do you listen to rap/hip-hop is genuinely on there

I did the BBC one and for elite.

That simply can't be right. I think my father would be embarassed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just done an online class test. Apparently we're established middle class

what does Unestablished middle class mean then?

Some of the questions are brilliant! Everyone should take one.

Do you listen to rap/hip-hop is genuinely on there

I did the BBC one and for elite.

That simply can't be right. I think my father would be embarassed.

*got, not for. My new fucking smartphone is an idiot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just done an online class test. Apparently we're established middle class

what does Unestablished middle class mean then?

Some of the questions are brilliant! Everyone should take one.

Do you listen to rap/hip-hop is genuinely on there

I did the BBC one and for elite.

That simply can't be right. I think my father would be embarassed.

You obvs don't listen to hip-hop then

Take your elitism elsewhere!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool

Ooohhh, I've gone on holday to Blackpool. I now know where I am in the British class system. Cheers!

Lol I've never holiday'd in Blackpool, have a university education and live in a two up two down rented terrace with a basic salary of £26k...where does that put me in terms of class?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool

Ooohhh, I've gone on holday to Blackpool. I now know where I am in the British class system. Cheers!

Lol I've never holiday'd in Blackpool, have a university education and live in a two up two down rented terrace with a basic salary of £26k...where does that put me in terms of class? "

You tell me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool

Ooohhh, I've gone on holday to Blackpool. I now know where I am in the British class system. Cheers!

Lol I've never holiday'd in Blackpool, have a university education and live in a two up two down rented terrace with a basic salary of £26k...where does that put me in terms of class? "

Who cares....

Fancy a shag?

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By *antasticMrsFoxMan
over a year ago

Exeter

"Just done an online class test. Apparently we're established middle class

what does Unestablished middle class mean then?

Some of the questions are brilliant! Everyone should take one.

Do you listen to rap/hip-hop is genuinely on there

Turns out after having our butler take the test for us (too much like manual labour) we are working class

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

Naive question? "
yes your question was extremely naive and proven by gloswingers yst again

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

Naive question? yes your question was extremely naive and proven by gloswingers yst again

Was it?

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

Naive question? yes your question was extremely naive and proven by gloswingers yst again

Was it? "

your not the sharpest tool in the box are you

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

Naive question? yes your question was extremely naive and proven by gloswingers yst again

Was it?

your not the sharpest tool in the box are you

Says who? No offence but if you take gloswingers stories of meeting judges on their way home from court (in their robes, like you would) then your obviously naive .

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

Naive question? yes your question was extremely naive and proven by gloswingers yst again

Was it?

your not the sharpest tool in the box are you

Says who? No offence but if you take gloswingers stories of meeting judges on their way home from court (in their robes, like you would) then your obviously naive .

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no I'm not just taking their word for it, I have my own experience aswell something which you mustn't have much of.

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over a year ago

Does it really matter whether stories of judges and such are real? Let's say that are, that's anectdotal at best. In fact, they were probably remembered because of how much they stood out from the norm.

In order to answer the OP accurately, a larger survey would have to be undertaken. While I'm not aware of such a study ever being completed, I have read various reports which found that a more liberal attitude to sex is often associated with upper middle class people. But these were studies conducted in the US and not about swinging/dogging per se. Make of it what you will.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

Naive question? yes your question was extremely naive and proven by gloswingers yst again

Was it?

your not the sharpest tool in the box are you

Says who? No offence but if you take gloswingers stories of meeting judges on their way home from court (in their robes, like you would) then your obviously naive .

no I'm not just taking their word for it, I have my own experience aswell something which you mustn't have much of."

PMSL, try not to make this personal, it would be a clear sign your losing the argument

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over a year ago

"Does it really matter whether stories of judges and such are real? Let's say that are, that's anectdotal at best. In fact, they were probably remembered because of how much they stood out from the norm.

Interesting, maybe I will get in contact with Sydney University, they must have some relevant data

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

Naive question? yes your question was extremely naive and proven by gloswingers yst again

Was it?

your not the sharpest tool in the box are you

Says who? No offence but if you take gloswingers stories of meeting judges on their way home from court (in their robes, like you would) then your obviously naive .

no I'm not just taking their word for it, I have my own experience aswell something which you mustn't have much of.

PMSL, try not to make this personal, it would be a clear sign your losing the argument

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haha I'm not losing the argument, its just obvious somebody with experience wouldn't ask naive questions that's all.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

Naive question? yes your question was extremely naive and proven by gloswingers yst again

Was it?

your not the sharpest tool in the box are you

Says who? No offence but if you take gloswingers stories of meeting judges on their way home from court (in their robes, like you would) then your obviously naive .

no I'm not just taking their word for it, I have my own experience aswell something which you mustn't have much of.

PMSL, try not to make this personal, it would be a clear sign your losing the argument

haha I'm not losing the argument, its just obvious somebody with experience wouldn't ask naive questions that's all."

And you have proof that I have no experience?? I have been on and off here for several years, your being naive again

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

Naive question? yes your question was extremely naive and proven by gloswingers yst again

Was it?

your not the sharpest tool in the box are you

Says who? No offence but if you take gloswingers stories of meeting judges on their way home from court (in their robes, like you would) then your obviously naive .

no I'm not just taking their word for it, I have my own experience aswell something which you mustn't have much of.

PMSL, try not to make this personal, it would be a clear sign your losing the argument

haha I'm not losing the argument, its just obvious somebody with experience wouldn't ask naive questions that's all.

And you have proof that I have no experience?? I have been on and off here for several years, your being naive again "
no I don't have a fucking Scooby doo its just the question you asked suggests you don't have much that's all.

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over a year ago

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

Naive question? yes your question was extremely naive and proven by gloswingers yst again

Was it?

your not the sharpest tool in the box are you

Says who? No offence but if you take gloswingers stories of meeting judges on their way home from court (in their robes, like you would) then your obviously naive .

no I'm not just taking their word for it, I have my own experience aswell something which you mustn't have much of.

PMSL, try not to make this personal, it would be a clear sign your losing the argument

haha I'm not losing the argument, its just obvious somebody with experience wouldn't ask naive questions that's all."

It matters not one bit to us whether the op thinks we make up stories ....

He can draw what he will .

We simply speak from our experiences , and that's all we can do .

Anyone that knows us will know we wouldn't need to make up stories , and no op .... Nothing we have said isn't the truth , including the judge .

Could I ask you a question ?

Have you been dogging , and what experiences have you had ?

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over a year ago

"It's funny but I never think of dogging when wondering what the rich and famous get up to in their free time

And that's the irony isn't it ?

The rich and famous look for a buzz , more so than most I guess .

So dogging gives it .....

George Michael , Stan Collymore , Freddie Mercury , to name but a few .

hmmmmmmmm

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

Naive question? yes your question was extremely naive and proven by gloswingers yst again

Was it?

your not the sharpest tool in the box are you

Says who? No offence but if you take gloswingers stories of meeting judges on their way home from court (in their robes, like you would) then your obviously naive .

no I'm not just taking their word for it, I have my own experience aswell something which you mustn't have much of.

PMSL, try not to make this personal, it would be a clear sign your losing the argument

haha I'm not losing the argument, its just obvious somebody with experience wouldn't ask naive questions that's all.

It matters not one bit to us whether the op thinks we make up stories ....

He can draw what he will .

We simply speak from our experiences , and that's all we can do .

Anyone that knows us will know we wouldn't need to make up stories , and no op .... Nothing we have said isn't the truth , including the judge .

Could I ask you a question ?

Have you been dogging , and what experiences have you had ? "

No you can't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

Naive question? yes your question was extremely naive and proven by gloswingers yst again

Was it?

your not the sharpest tool in the box are you

Says who? No offence but if you take gloswingers stories of meeting judges on their way home from court (in their robes, like you would) then your obviously naive .

no I'm not just taking their word for it, I have my own experience aswell something which you mustn't have much of.

PMSL, try not to make this personal, it would be a clear sign your losing the argument

haha I'm not losing the argument, its just obvious somebody with experience wouldn't ask naive questions that's all.

It matters not one bit to us whether the op thinks we make up stories ....

He can draw what he will .

We simply speak from our experiences , and that's all we can do .

Anyone that knows us will know we wouldn't need to make up stories , and no op .... Nothing we have said isn't the truth , including the judge .

Could I ask you a question ?

Have you been dogging , and what experiences have you had ?

No you can't "

That's cool , but that pretty much sums up your comments thus far doesn't it ?

You can continue slating our comments , dishing out your judgement , but won't answer a simple question .....

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over a year ago

"It's funny but I never think of dogging when wondering what the rich and famous get up to in their free time

And that's the irony isn't it ?

The rich and famous look for a buzz , more so than most I guess .

So dogging gives it .....

George Michael , Stan Collymore , Freddie Mercury , to name but a few .

I wish you had named a few more.. err proper celebrities, I may have been more convinced

unfortunately the only basis most of us have to go off for our view of dogging is that channel 4 documentary a while back, where they all wore masks even though you could have probably recognised them from their tattoos

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over a year ago

I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc?

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over a year ago

Swingers come in all shapes, all sizes, and all walks of life.

Not sure about the ideas re class as I appear to have a different view on what middle class is.

To me the middle classes are those that own companies but do not work as such and employ staff in their home's.

(ladies/gent what lunch)

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over a year ago

"It's funny but I never think of dogging when wondering what the rich and famous get up to in their free time

And that's the irony isn't it ?

The rich and famous look for a buzz , more so than most I guess .

So dogging gives it .....

George Michael , Stan Collymore , Freddie Mercury , to name but a few .

I wish you had named a few more.. err proper celebrities, I may have been more convinced

Lol .... And I can honestly say that documentary was the worst programme ever !

We have yet to see anyone wear a mask , and the people portrayed on it were without a doubt used to belittle the whole dogging scene .

I can understand your opinion though if it's based on that !

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over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc? "

Very true. I find it interesting from a purely academic standpoint, though. But that might be my elite class position shining through.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

Naive question? yes your question was extremely naive and proven by gloswingers yst again

Was it?

your not the sharpest tool in the box are you

Says who? No offence but if you take gloswingers stories of meeting judges on their way home from court (in their robes, like you would) then your obviously naive .

no I'm not just taking their word for it, I have my own experience aswell something which you mustn't have much of.

PMSL, try not to make this personal, it would be a clear sign your losing the argument

haha I'm not losing the argument, its just obvious somebody with experience wouldn't ask naive questions that's all.

It matters not one bit to us whether the op thinks we make up stories ....

He can draw what he will .

We simply speak from our experiences , and that's all we can do .

Anyone that knows us will know we wouldn't need to make up stories , and no op .... Nothing we have said isn't the truth , including the judge .

Could I ask you a question ?

Have you been dogging , and what experiences have you had ?

No you can't

That's cool , but that pretty much sums up your comments thus far doesn't it ?

You can continue slating our comments , dishing out your judgement , but won't answer a simple question .....

What is your point, you decided to post your 'stories'on here, you didn't have to

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over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool

Ooohhh, I've gone on holday to Blackpool. I now know where I am in the British class system. Cheers!

Lol I've never holiday'd in Blackpool, have a university education and live in a two up two down rented terrace with a basic salary of £26k...where does that put me in terms of class?

Who cares....

Fancy a shag?

Lol fancy a shag, Mr wild just put a meet up at my request so guess yep I fancy a shag or two, r u offerring?

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!

These forums are no fun at times with all the god damn bitching. Apologies just thinking out loud...

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By *ubbykittenWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"These forums are no fun at times with all the god damn bitching. Apologies just thinking out loud..."

Totally agree! With some repeat offenders! Yawn!!!! X

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over a year ago

"These forums are no fun at times with all the god damn bitching. Apologies just thinking out loud...

Totally agree! With some repeat offenders! Yawn!!!! X"

Helpful comment,

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over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool

Ooohhh, I've gone on holday to Blackpool. I now know where I am in the British class system. Cheers!

Lol I've never holiday'd in Blackpool, have a university education and live in a two up two down rented terrace with a basic salary of £26k...where does that put me in terms of class?

Who cares....

Fancy a shag?

Lol fancy a shag, Mr wild just put a meet up at my request so guess yep I fancy a shag or two, r u offerring?"

Oh if only we were both available tonight

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over a year ago

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

Naive question? yes your question was extremely naive and proven by gloswingers yst again

Was it?

your not the sharpest tool in the box are you

Says who? No offence but if you take gloswingers stories of meeting judges on their way home from court (in their robes, like you would) then your obviously naive .

no I'm not just taking their word for it, I have my own experience aswell something which you mustn't have much of.

PMSL, try not to make this personal, it would be a clear sign your losing the argument

haha I'm not losing the argument, its just obvious somebody with experience wouldn't ask naive questions that's all.

It matters not one bit to us whether the op thinks we make up stories ....

He can draw what he will .

We simply speak from our experiences , and that's all we can do .

Anyone that knows us will know we wouldn't need to make up stories , and no op .... Nothing we have said isn't the truth , including the judge .

Could I ask you a question ?

Have you been dogging , and what experiences have you had ?

No you can't

That's cool , but that pretty much sums up your comments thus far doesn't it ?

You can continue slating our comments , dishing out your judgement , but won't answer a simple question .....

What is your point, you decided to post your 'stories'on here, you didn't have to "

The subject matter , the op , the comment that dogging was working class .

And as I've said , no stories , just facts .

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over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool

Ooohhh, I've gone on holday to Blackpool. I now know where I am in the British class system. Cheers!

Lol I've never holiday'd in Blackpool, have a university education and live in a two up two down rented terrace with a basic salary of £26k...where does that put me in terms of class?

Who cares....

Fancy a shag?

Lol fancy a shag, Mr wild just put a meet up at my request so guess yep I fancy a shag or two, r u offerring?

Oh if only we were both available tonight

Lol I'm more than happy to engage in an mfm or fmf mrdpt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool

Ooohhh, I've gone on holday to Blackpool. I now know where I am in the British class system. Cheers!

Lol I've never holiday'd in Blackpool, have a university education and live in a two up two down rented terrace with a basic salary of £26k...where does that put me in terms of class?

Who cares....

Fancy a shag?

Lol fancy a shag, Mr wild just put a meet up at my request so guess yep I fancy a shag or two, r u offerring?

Oh if only we were both available tonight

Lol I'm more than happy to engage in an mfm or fmf mrdpt

Are you flirting with me?

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over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc? "

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

There's no official class grading system on your passport or driving licence that absolutely confirms what class you are! It's subjective and few people really understand if and often confuse it with income.

Anyway, if you not willing to meet working class people then there must be a stereotype of working class people that turns you off. Since your question supposes the people haven't turned you off then they wouldn't be doing those things. Since they aren't doing those things then there's no real way to classify them as an undesirable class.

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over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc?

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

You've expanded on the exact point I was making, class is a perception.

I was trying to make the point of would anyone turn someone down because of how you perceived them class wise.

I was out walking at the time and could probably of worded it a bit better

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over a year ago

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

See my posts above.

The dictionary definition does refer to income as the determining factor. As a phrase, it is often used to include other implications. Perhaps another example of the dictionary not having caught up with modern usage?

Mind you, it has nothing to do with holidaying in Blackpool.

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over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc?

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

I don't think class is completely subjective. If you define your variables, and yes it is more than just income, then it can be evaluated. It's something sociologists and political scientists have been doing for ages.

Granted, quantifying the variables does bring a bit of subjectivity, but if reasoned well, then I don't see why the entire concept of "class" has to be any more subjective than other things created and structured by societies. And these things are routinely studied and questioned.

Although I personally think it's silly to base sexual attraction on this stuff, but some people do. I thought the OP was interesting and there wasn't anything judgemental in the initial question.

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over a year ago

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

See my posts above.

Mind you, it has nothing to do with holidaying in Blackpool."

Well what does the dictionary have to offer about new and old money? If you think Wayne Rooney is going to be treated as an equal by the old guard at the country club then the dictionary is very much mistaken. He might be rich but he's pure white trash.

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over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc?

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

Although I personally think it's silly to base sexual attraction on this stuff, but some people do. I thought the OP was interesting and there wasn't anything judgemental in the initial question."

No there wasn't , that came later ...

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over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc?

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

You've expanded on the exact point I was making, class is a perception.

I was trying to make the point of would anyone turn someone down because of how you perceived them class wise.

I was out walking at the time and could probably of worded it a bit better

Ah I see!

Well there are certainly behaviours that put us off and some of those behaviours are more prevalent in the great unwashed. But if a couple isn't doing any of them and they turn out to be a cleaner and a white van man then it doesn't bother us one bit.

In fact one of the most intelligent people we've met swinging was a plumber.

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over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc?

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

I don't think class is completely subjective."

So what class is Wayne Rooney?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc?

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

I don't think class is completely subjective.

So what class is Wayne Rooney? "

Overpaid?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Middle class cars?? what do you think that means? Like Mercedes, BMW, etc

Ah, I hadn't realised that the class system is based on the car you drive?

Naive question? yes your question was extremely naive and proven by gloswingers yst again

Was it?

your not the sharpest tool in the box are you

Says who? No offence but if you take gloswingers stories of meeting judges on their way home from court (in their robes, like you would) then your obviously naive .

no I'm not just taking their word for it, I have my own experience aswell something which you mustn't have much of.

PMSL, try not to make this personal, it would be a clear sign your losing the argument

haha I'm not losing the argument, its just obvious somebody with experience wouldn't ask naive questions that's all.

It matters not one bit to us whether the op thinks we make up stories ....

He can draw what he will .

We simply speak from our experiences , and that's all we can do .

Anyone that knows us will know we wouldn't need to make up stories , and no op .... Nothing we have said isn't the truth , including the judge .

Could I ask you a question ?

Have you been dogging , and what experiences have you had ?

No you can't

That's cool , but that pretty much sums up your comments thus far doesn't it ?

You can continue slating our comments , dishing out your judgement , but won't answer a simple question .....

What is your point, you decided to post your 'stories'on here, you didn't have to

The subject matter , the op , the comment that dogging was working class .

And as I've said , no stories , just facts .

Facts can only be proved by relevant evidence

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over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc?

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

I don't think class is completely subjective.

So what class is Wayne Rooney?

Overpaid?

Actually he'd experiencing a second wind as a midfielder now, I don't have a problem with him as a footballer. But a gentleman doesn't get busted at a £45 back street brothel.

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over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc?

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

Although I personally think it's silly to base sexual attraction on this stuff, but some people do. I thought the OP was interesting and there wasn't anything judgemental in the initial question."

I was pointing out that the dictionary definition (Cambridge Dictionary, in any event) no longer accords with the connotations attributed by many people.

As per Wayne Rooney. The dictionary definition would most certainly not classify him as working class.

Ho hum, language is an ever evolving thing.

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over a year ago

As per Wayne Rooney. The dictionary definition would most certainly not classify him as working class.

And yet... look at him!!

Although to be fair, he has at least started to cheat on his pregnant wife with higher class prostitutes more recently.

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over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?"

That'll be me then

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over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc?

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

I don't think class is completely subjective.

So what class is Wayne Rooney? "

I don't know who he is and I cba to Google it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As per Wayne Rooney. The dictionary definition would most certainly not classify him as working class.

And yet... look at him!!

Although to be fair, he has at least started to cheat on his pregnant wife with higher class prostitutes more recently. "

Though a posh English actor spotted receiving a blow job from a prostitute in his car is deemed upper class...

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over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

No but dogging is"

lol dogging is classless like swinging you only have to see some of the cars at dogging sites to know they are not working class ie top of the range merc parked next to a 20 yr old nova lol

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over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc?

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

I don't think class is completely subjective.

So what class is Wayne Rooney?

I don't know who he is and I cba to Google it.

He's a footballer

Working class come millionaire

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over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc?

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

I don't think class is completely subjective.

So what class is Wayne Rooney?

I don't know who he is and I cba to Google it.

He's a footballer

Working class come millionaire "

Ah, new money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc?

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

I don't think class is completely subjective.

So what class is Wayne Rooney?

I don't know who he is and I cba to Google it.

He's a footballer

Working class come millionaire

Ah, new money.

How can you not know who Wayne Rooney is, how long have you been in the UK woman

I hate football and even I know who he is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc?

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

I don't think class is completely subjective.

So what class is Wayne Rooney?

I don't know who he is and I cba to Google it.

He's a footballer

Working class come millionaire

Ah, new money.

How can you not know who Wayne Rooney is, how long have you been in the UK woman

I hate football and even I know who he is

I really really tune out football

I know David Beckham

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc?

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

I don't think class is completely subjective.

So what class is Wayne Rooney?

I don't know who he is and I cba to Google it.

He's like soccers Michael Vick

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc?

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

Although I personally think it's silly to base sexual attraction on this stuff, but some people do. I thought the OP was interesting and there wasn't anything judgemental in the initial question.

I was pointing out that the dictionary definition (Cambridge Dictionary, in any event) no longer accords with the connotations attributed by many people.

As per Wayne Rooney. The dictionary definition would most certainly not classify him as working class.

Ho hum, language is an ever evolving thing."

Seriously though, the problem with lumping income into class is that you're backing saying working class people can't be successful and I object to that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

No but dogging is

lol dogging is classless like swinging you only have to see some of the cars at dogging sites to know they are not working class ie top of the range merc parked next to a 20 yr old nova lol "

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

The definition of class by cars is a new one... perhaps more new money than an indicator of class. The wealthiest upper class I know tend to favour beaten up range rovers, classic jaguars and that sort.

Anecdotal evidence is just that. Anecdotal. I do think that the upper tend to prefer parties-having attended KK and seen several dogging spots, there's a difference in those who attend. But that's purely my experience like anyone else on this thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc?

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

Although I personally think it's silly to base sexual attraction on this stuff, but some people do. I thought the OP was interesting and there wasn't anything judgemental in the initial question.

I was pointing out that the dictionary definition (Cambridge Dictionary, in any event) no longer accords with the connotations attributed by many people.

As per Wayne Rooney. The dictionary definition would most certainly not classify him as working class.

Ho hum, language is an ever evolving thing.

Seriously though, the problem with lumping income into class is that you're backing saying working class people can't be successful and I object to that. "

I know what you are saying but your complaint should be directed at the Cambridge Dictionary.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't even drive what class does that make me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The definition of class by cars is a new one... perhaps more new money than an indicator of class. The wealthiest upper class I know tend to favour beaten up range rovers, classic jaguars and that sort.

Having attended clubs , house parties and all manner of swinging based events over the six years we have been in the lifestyle , we maintain that there as many middle and upper classes who enjoy dogging as working class .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can't imagine anyone starts a message with "hi we're a nice middle class couple"

So if you're attracted to them and want to meet would it make any difference if you perceived them as middle or working class etc?

No offence but the question doesn't really make sense!

Although I personally think it's silly to base sexual attraction on this stuff, but some people do. I thought the OP was interesting and there wasn't anything judgemental in the initial question.

I was pointing out that the dictionary definition (Cambridge Dictionary, in any event) no longer accords with the connotations attributed by many people.

As per Wayne Rooney. The dictionary definition would most certainly not classify him as working class.

Ho hum, language is an ever evolving thing.

Seriously though, the problem with lumping income into class is that you're backing saying working class people can't be successful and I object to that.

I know what you are saying but your complaint should be directed at the Cambridge Dictionary."

Drafting my online petition now...

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

Excuse me, but you can be a working class professional and drive a middle class car..ffs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sex is classless though isnt it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do the upper classes use the heated seats feature in their cars?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ah that must be why I don't like swinging clubs ive not got enough money to fit in

hate snobbery of any kind people are people no matter what to say dogging is working class is snobbery at its best

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

ah that must be why I don't like swinging clubs ive not got enough money to fit in

hate snobbery of any kind people are people no matter what to say dogging is working class is snobbery at its best"

I was basing my view on experience just like others on this thread.

The parties I mentioned such as Killing Kittens aren't clubs. They are parties. Where they are deliberately designed to appeal to a certain type however wanky and pretentious that might be. Clubs are completely different and inclusive. No where did I suggest money is required for swinginy clubs. Perhaps before inaccurately quoting read a post fully.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do the upper classes use the heated seats feature in their cars?

We certainly do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hate snobbery of any kind people are people no matter what to say dogging is working class is snobbery at its best"

Snobbery serves a purpose, it's about trying to preserve a shred of standards in our social interactions before we devolve back to monkeys flinging shit at each other.

We're not telling Wayne Rooney that he can't fuck hookers. We're simply saying a celebrity should do it discreetly in a hotel room or something and not some £45 back street brothel with fans watching.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool"

Whoa whoa whoa. Sweet child o'mine. Don't be bringing Blackpool into it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hate snobbery of any kind people are people no matter what to say dogging is working class is snobbery at its best

Snobbery serves a purpose, it's about trying to preserve a shred of standards in our social interactions before we devolve back to monkeys flinging shit at each other.

Where can I find these £45 hookers you've been talking about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hate snobbery of any kind people are people no matter what to say dogging is working class is snobbery at its best

Snobbery serves a purpose, it's about trying to preserve a shred of standards in our social interactions before we devolve back to monkeys flinging shit at each other.

Where can I find these £45 hookers you've been talking about

Just find the street Wayne ROONEY grew up on

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

hate snobbery of any kind people are people no matter what to say dogging is working class is snobbery at its best

Snobbery serves a purpose, it's about trying to preserve a shred of standards in our social interactions before we devolve back to monkeys flinging shit at each other.

Where can I find these £45 hookers you've been talking about

"
a friend of mine frequents sandy superstars in Manchester that's only 50 quid apparently all ex page 3 girls an pornstars I think they allow couples aswell. I don't wanna pay for sex though myself would rather somebody want to have sex with me not just because I paid them to do it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hate snobbery of any kind people are people no matter what to say dogging is working class is snobbery at its best

Snobbery serves a purpose, it's about trying to preserve a shred of standards in our social interactions before we devolve back to monkeys flinging shit at each other.

Where can I find these £45 hookers you've been talking about

a friend of mine frequents sandy superstars in Manchester that's only 50 quid apparently all ex page 3 girls an pornstars I think they allow couples aswell. I don't wanna pay for sex though myself would rather somebody want to have sex with me not just because I paid them to do it."

The biggest problem is that 99% of hookers don't kiss (says my mate dave)... sex without kissing is like Wimbledon without strawberries.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hate snobbery of any kind people are people no matter what to say dogging is working class is snobbery at its best

Snobbery serves a purpose, it's about trying to preserve a shred of standards in our social interactions before we devolve back to monkeys flinging shit at each other.

Monkeys flinging shit at each other ?

Jeez ..... Yeah snobbery at its worst there

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford

Met different classes swinging and haven't a clue where they sit in the social strata. Much more interested in mutual fun if there is attraction. So I am at the moment a plain fucker trying to be a filthy fucker. Never been dogging but a very hot fantasy.

Fascinated by the comments about cars. Never crossed my mind to ask what people drive

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

hate snobbery of any kind people are people no matter what to say dogging is working class is snobbery at its best

Snobbery serves a purpose, it's about trying to preserve a shred of standards in our social interactions before we devolve back to monkeys flinging shit at each other.

Where can I find these £45 hookers you've been talking about

The biggest problem is that 99% of hookers don't kiss (says my mate dave)... sex without kissing is like Wimbledon without strawberries."
couples are like this aswell though they have all rules and boundaries which is fair enough I understand. I think it's strange though how someone would let you come in their mouth but they won't let you kiss them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hate snobbery of any kind people are people no matter what to say dogging is working class is snobbery at its best

Snobbery serves a purpose, it's about trying to preserve a shred of standards in our social interactions before we devolve back to monkeys flinging shit at each other.

Where can I find these £45 hookers you've been talking about

The biggest problem is that 99% of hookers don't kiss (says my mate dave)... sex without kissing is like Wimbledon without strawberries. couples are like this aswell though they have all rules and boundaries which is fair enough I understand. I think it's strange though how someone would let you come in their mouth but they won't let you kiss them."

Oh yeah, avoid them like herpes, they bring the drama every time!

I saw a great one the other day with a couple who said the wife would only fuck doggy style and never look at the man fucking her!!

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

hate snobbery of any kind people are people no matter what to say dogging is working class is snobbery at its best

Snobbery serves a purpose, it's about trying to preserve a shred of standards in our social interactions before we devolve back to monkeys flinging shit at each other.

Where can I find these £45 hookers you've been talking about

Oh yeah, avoid them like herpes, they bring the drama every time!

I saw a great one the other day with a couple who said the wife would only fuck doggy style and never look at the man fucking her!!"
I'm just a giant sex toy at the end of the day I appreciate them inviting me to play and I respect their wishes. Yes I have seen this also I personally would at least like to know a name or alias an have a quick conversation at least but not much you can do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hate snobbery of any kind people are people no matter what to say dogging is working class is snobbery at its best

Snobbery serves a purpose, it's about trying to preserve a shred of standards in our social interactions before we devolve back to monkeys flinging shit at each other.

Where can I find these £45 hookers you've been talking about

Oh yeah, avoid them like herpes, they bring the drama every time!

I saw a great one the other day with a couple who said the wife would only fuck doggy style and never look at the man fucking her!!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hate snobbery of any kind people are people no matter what to say dogging is working class is snobbery at its best

Snobbery serves a purpose, it's about trying to preserve a shred of standards in our social interactions before we devolve back to monkeys flinging shit at each other.

Where can I find these £45 hookers you've been talking about

Oh yeah, avoid them like herpes, they bring the drama every time!

I saw a great one the other day with a couple who said the wife would only fuck doggy style and never look at the man fucking her!!

Tell me about it, I'm not that ugly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't even drive what class does that make me

I have 5 million in debt , with 1 million in assets..

What class am I?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't even drive what class does that make me

I have 5 million in debt , with 1 million in assets..

What class am I?

Banker

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And just for the judgemental , here's a pic from last night , me by my Lexus 450h hybrid ....

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

"And just for the judgemental , here's a pic from last night , me by my Lexus 450h hybrid ....

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ace

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't even drive what class does that make me

I have 5 million in debt , with 1 million in assets..

What class am I?

Banker"

How did you know

I'm waiting for my bonus check.... Does that mean I can go dogging? Or should I wait for the check first

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And just for the judgemental , here's a pic from last night , me by my Lexus 450h hybrid ....

Did you spunk on his seats ?

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)? "

Quite the opposite in my experience.

I've been in clubs a lot and met some very affluent people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And just for the judgemental , here's a pic from last night , me by my Lexus 450h hybrid ....

Did you spunk on his seats ?

They're my seats , which are heated and leather so wipe clean

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And just for the judgemental , here's a pic from last night , me by my Lexus 450h hybrid ....

Did you spunk on his seats ?

They're my seats , which are heated and leather so wipe clean

No need to put on airs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And just for the judgemental , here's a pic from last night , me by my Lexus 450h hybrid ....

Did you spunk on his seats ?

They're my seats , which are heated and leather so wipe clean

Do you get a different consistency from the jizz once it's on the seats depending on if the heated feature is turned on?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And just for the judgemental , here's a pic from last night , me by my Lexus 450h hybrid ....

Did you spunk on his seats ?

They're my seats , which are heated and leather so wipe clean

No need to put on airs

True , wouldn't want to be accused of being a snob would I ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And just for the judgemental , here's a pic from last night , me by my Lexus 450h hybrid ....

Did you spunk on his seats ?

They're my seats , which are heated and leather so wipe clean

Do you get a different consistency from the jizz once it's on the seats depending on if the heated feature is turned on? "

To be honest , as you can see from our pics n not much gets wasted so I have no idea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And just for the judgemental , here's a pic from last night , me by my Lexus 450h hybrid ....

Did you spunk on his seats ?

They're my seats , which are heated and leather so wipe clean

Do you get a different consistency from the jizz once it's on the seats depending on if the heated feature is turned on? "

Omelette?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And just for the judgemental , here's a pic from last night , me by my Lexus 450h hybrid ....

Oops I've just said on the other thread the bloke is more interested in smoking a fag...

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over a year ago

"And just for the judgemental , here's a pic from last night , me by my Lexus 450h hybrid ....

Oops I've just said on the other thread the bloke is more interested in smoking a fag...

That's not true !

I finished my fag while enjoying the bj , then fucked her .... As pics prove .

No one was complaining

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By *iSTARessWoman
over a year ago

London

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool"

That's just snobbery. I'm working class, low income and spend all my money on traveling to far flung places. And I've a Master's degree.

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over a year ago

"And just for the judgemental , here's a pic from last night , me by my Lexus 450h hybrid ....

Oops I've just said on the other thread the bloke is more interested in smoking a fag...

That's not true !

I finished my fag while enjoying the bj , then fucked her .... As pics prove .

No one was complaining

Well that's not what it looks like from the photo, she's giving you a bj, you're sparking up a fag & your mates texting...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And just for the judgemental , here's a pic from last night , me by my Lexus 450h hybrid ....

Oops I've just said on the other thread the bloke is more interested in smoking a fag...

That's not true !

I finished my fag while enjoying the bj , then fucked her .... As pics prove .

No one was complaining

Well that's not what it looks like from the photo, she's giving you a bj, you're sparking up a fag & your mates texting...

Yep , exactly right

Happy days

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool

That's just snobbery. I'm working class, low income and spend all my money on traveling to far flung places. And I've a Master's degree."

In my opinion, that puts you above Wayne Rooney

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

No but dogging is

Is it fuck !

The amount of lawyers , solicitors , and even a bloody judge that we meet would stagger you !

And bankers , the rich and sometimes even famous !

Look at the car parks where it takes place ... Aston Martins , Mercedes , Bentleys .....

Sorry guys , you're way off there !

Last time I went dogging I took the Bentley, much more room than the Aston

You do know the woodlands they meet in are a pixie & fairy dust free zone

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By *lim_jim1964Man
over a year ago

peterborough

"We've met all sorts in 11 years of being on the scene from judges to jugglers,financiers to just plain fuckers. It's a reflection of ordinary society

Very much agree, although not met juggler, interesting prospect though!

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By *aneSmith5TV/TS
over a year ago

Eastbourne

Working class is an odd definition.

If you earn a living then you are working class,- simple.

Most MP are not working class and there lies the problem.

Does it really matter for a meeting on here is everyone agrees.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hate snobbery of any kind people are people no matter what to say dogging is working class is snobbery at its best

Snobbery serves a purpose, it's about trying to preserve a shred of standards in our social interactions before we devolve back to monkeys flinging shit at each other.

Where can I find these £45 hookers you've been talking about

I'm the other way round

You can kiss me but don't cum in my mouth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have met and conversed with many swingers from a variety of backgrounds. Seems to be popular with all classes though we are supposed to be a more classless society today compared to perhaps 30/40 years ago.

Whatever floats your boat whoever you enjoy and live your life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" we are supposed to be a more classless society today compared to perhaps 30/40 years ago.

Lol 50% of the price of houses is predicated on trying to get as far away from certain groups of other people as possible!

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool"

In my defence, I lived there. Never went on holiday there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Snobbery amongst swingers,..... Well I never

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would say we are working class we both work have a mortgage both work full time and go on holiday abroad once for two weeks long haul or two shorter holiday of a week a year within the eu

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By *iSTARessWoman
over a year ago

London

"Is swinging and particularly fabswingers predominantly a working class 'pursuit' (for want of a better word)?

Can you define "working class" please?

It is a term which is commonly used but how do you determine whether someone is working class? Do you have to have a flat cap and a whippet?

Low to middle income, moderate education, people who go on holiday to Blackpool

That's just snobbery. I'm working class, low income and spend all my money on traveling to far flung places. And I've a Master's degree.

In my opinion, that puts you above Wayne Rooney "

Great. Thanks for your opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

think i shall stay out of this one -

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Snobbery amongst swingers,..... Well I never"

Would you believe it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What an extraordinarily silly thread

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

I could never spot a 'working class' person, but thankfully they tend to announce that they are

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