FabSwingers.com forum: Political correctness going mad

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Have to say viewing forums of late. Mentions of the words black,asians ,indian ,white...pink,green,blue. Causes outrage. People branding others as racist. It's totally wrong. What happened to freedom of speech.

We would be the first to report any racist abuse. But just to get branded a racist. For mentioning, colour or race ,as preference for meeting others. Is not racist. It's peoples invidual choice surely.

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By *izzlemoonMan
over a year ago

Bath

Hatered and preference at two very different things. Also considering people discriminate based on what they desire which is a freely up to them I doubt there is any profound racism here. Besides if someone was being a biggot towards you why would you want to even meet them or care what they think??

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Hatered and preference at two very different things. Also considering people discriminate based on what they desire which is a freely up to them I doubt there is any profound racism here. Besides if someone was being a biggot towards you why would you want to even meet them or care what they think??"

Our feelings exactly...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You were pulled up on a comment yesterday. The thread go closed. Someone else started a thread about it. Now this thread. No one called you a racist. people questioned your post. The people asking the questions were not abusive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And as per the forum police thread. I will post what I like within the rules. I don;t ignore any sort of ism in real life and I'm not about to start doing so on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And I still don;t get why calling someone politically correct is used as an insult? I treat people equally, I don;t objectify people, how's that a bad thng?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's nothing wrong with stating preferences. Whether it be Black's, White, fat, thin, tall or short.

We don't want to meet short, fat black men but we also don't want to meet tall, skinny white men either.

No racism there. Just preferences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think anyone confuses a preference with being prejudiced. But a preference for some people can mirror a prejudice and the way that it is presented can often appear prejudiced.

"I'm only looking for white men"

Comes across very different to a shouty preference such as

"NO BLACKS OR ASIANS! Not being racist, just my preference!"

Same with how people describe sexuality. When you see straight men ranting on about not wanting queers or moaning about gays it often comes across as unnecessarily unpleasant.

And presenting a preference as who you want to meet rather than who you exclude is always more positive

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You were pulled up on a comment yesterday. The thread go closed. Someone else started a thread about it. Now this thread. No one called you a racist. people questioned your post. The people asking the questions were not abusive.

You privy to our personal inbox? no don't think you are. !!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

some people just enjoy being outraged, whatever the subject...

as people have said its a preference not racism...get over it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have to say viewing forums of late. Mentions of the words black,asians ,indian ,white...pink,green,blue. Causes outrage. People branding others as racist. It's totally wrong. What happened to freedom of speech.

I've seen quite a few lately on here too.

People these days have nothing better to do than to moan.

PC mad indeed.

Let's all just get on with it like civillians and chill the f out.

Peace and love.x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You privy to our personal inbox? no don't think you are. !!!!"

I would have thought it was obvious I was talking about the thread. Saame as you appear to be in the second paragraph of your opening post

And besides the opening words of your post here are "Have to say viewing forums of late" so I assumed that this is the about the forum posts?

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By *longshottMan
over a year ago

Limerick

Individual choice now seems dependent on what the masses think it seems.

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By *et a roomCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

"some people just enjoy being outraged, whatever the subject...

as people have said its a preference not racism...get over it

The only people acting outraged on this thread are the OP it seems to me

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I was referring to a recent forum post looking for black ladies actually

I reported my own thread yesterday....

You privy to our personal inbox? no don't think you are. !!!!

I would have thought it was obvious I was talking about the thread. Saame as you appear to be in the second paragraph of your opening post

And besides the opening words of your post here are "Have to say viewing forums of late" so I assumed that this is the about the forum posts?"

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I've seen quite a few lately on here too.

People these days have nothing better to do than to moan.

PC mad indeed.

Let's all just get on with it like civillians and chill the f out.

Peace and love.x

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By *izzlemoonMan
over a year ago

Bath

"some people just enjoy being outraged, whatever the subject...

as people have said its a preference not racism...get over it

Aggreed. It feels a bit SJW whining over what over people put in there profiles. If you don't like it move on to someone that sparks your desire. It's no big thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You privy to our personal inbox? no don't think you are. !!!!

I would have thought it was obvious I was talking about the thread. Saame as you appear to be in the second paragraph of your opening post

And besides the opening words of your post here are "Have to say viewing forums of late" so I assumed that this is the about the forum posts?

I was referring to a recent forum post looking for black ladies actually

I reported my own thread yesterday....

I've sorted the quote out for you

I;ve not sen anything wrong with that thread, there is no need to state no Asians, plenty of people have said the samething?

Looking for black women is a peference. Quantifying that with 'no asian women' seems holly unneccesary. But as there is a huge thread about it why does it need another one?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"some people just enjoy being outraged, whatever the subject...

as people have said its a preference not racism...get over it

The only people acting outraged on this thread are the OP it seems to me "

exactly

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

As I read your profile..you clearly clarify,you are here to post on forum's. Not really living the swing lifestyle. So to us says it all. Keyboard warrior. No use having an opinion. With those who think they have the moral high ground. Onwards and upwards. Enjoy your day.

You privy to our personal inbox? no don't think you are. !!!!

I would have thought it was obvious I was talking about the thread. Saame as you appear to be in the second paragraph of your opening post

And besides the opening words of your post here are "Have to say viewing forums of late" so I assumed that this is the about the forum posts?

I was referring to a recent forum post looking for black ladies actually

I reported my own thread yesterday....

I've sorted the quote out for you

I;ve not sen anything wrong with that thread, there is no need to state no Asians, plenty of people have said the samething?

Looking for black women is a peference. Quantifying that with 'no asian women' seems holly unneccesary. But as there is a huge thread about it why does it need another one?"

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago

For PC mainly read someone who aint really got a clue outside spoon fed mainstream lemming thought/understanding. Someone who doesn't like the sound of what your saying be it fair logical theory or reality. Someone who will deny the numbers of statistics, the facts of history even science. Someone who will ultimately call you an xxxx'ist whenever discussion, opinion doesn't match with theirs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OK I may get shot for this, but here goes...

It's OK to have a type and preference. We all have them.

But when people state that they only see white people or will only meet black people etc. and state it's only preference and not racist, well actually it is.

If you're having to clarify that you will only meet a certain race of people and/or not meet a certain race of people, then yes that's your preference but it's only racist. You're effectively saying that a certain race is inferior to meet you which constitutes racism, and sometimes when people see it time and ime again will cause them to get slightly outraged. I've experienced it myself, but never go on a rant - apart from this one haha!

But again let me state, it's fine to have preference, but don't be in denial about it.

Also - if you see a profile you don't like, don't moaning just move on. Live and let live!

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By *ishopstippleMan
over a year ago

Purley

I Absolute hate being called WHITE! I'm PINK skinned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You privy to our personal inbox? no don't think you are. !!!!

I would have thought it was obvious I was talking about the thread. Saame as you appear to be in the second paragraph of your opening post

And besides the opening words of your post here are "Have to say viewing forums of late" so I assumed that this is the about the forum posts?

I was referring to a recent forum post looking for black ladies actually

I reported my own thread yesterday....

I've sorted the quote out for you

I;ve not sen anything wrong with that thread, there is no need to state no Asians, plenty of people have said the samething?

Looking for black women is a peference. Quantifying that with 'no asian women' seems holly unneccesary. But as there is a huge thread about it why does it need another one?

Again I've sorted out your quote

I'm not sure that my profile is relevant to the thread

But as I;ve been on the scene since 2007 I'm not about to start justifying why I;m not meeting.

There are planty of people here just for the forums - are they all keyboard warriors?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"I Absolute hate being called WHITE! I'm PINK skinned. "

Are you? Really? I dint think I've ever seen a pink skinned person!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"OK I may get shot for this, but here goes...

It's OK to have a type and preference. We all have them.

But when people state that they only see white people or will only meet black people etc. and state it's only preference and not racist, well actually it is.

But again let me state, it's fine to have preference, but don't be in denial about it.

Also - if you see a profile you don't like, don't moaning just move on. Live and let live!

Yes agree. But I will still state preference. I refuse to meet certain here we go races. Because of past experience and how we/I have been treated. Our Choice.

Peace and love xx

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Meet who you like OP, but if you cause offence through outdated opinion it's hardly mad that people correct you on it.

Say the speed limit changes in your area and you get pulled by the police, you'd be pissed off but you'd still be wrong.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I would say that's stereotyping, not racist. Basing your assumptions on a whole race based on meeting a select few.

Imagine if someone's only experience of white people was the west boro Baptist Church.....they'd this we were all fucking crazy nut jobs that protest at the funerals of fallen American soldiers.... But we're not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel I have to add my little bit to this thread. On my profile I state that I have a preference. I state it in a jovial way. So no offence can be taken. Yesterday, I received two abusive messages from someone that were very hurtful to me. They were to do with the fact that I state a preference. Now, after receiving the first message I responded back by saying "if you don't like what you see then don't comment and dont keep looking". I then blocked them. Then I got another abusive message from the same person but on a different profile! I know this, because they referred to my earlier message. Why do people feel the need to troll and be nasty? Just because I have a preference I am not racist in any way shape or form. I'd like to think something is done about this kind of thing. But I'm sceptical.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Spot on

i was thinking the same. The R card gets chucked about too much on here. We have all got preferances. As the ones pulling the R card out, have theirs.... Please just be NICE xx

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By *adyboy-DaddyCouple
over a year ago

Andover

Utter, utter rubbish.

Your entire assumption is that a preference is based on the perceived inferiority of those outside the stated preference.

That's nonsense. I have met looked at your profile but there is bound a preference stated.

Do you feel those outside your preference are inferior? It's what you've e assumed of everyone else's preferences.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You privy to our personal inbox? no don't think you are. !!!!

I would have thought it was obvious I was talking about the thread. Saame as you appear to be in the second paragraph of your opening post

And besides the opening words of your post here are "Have to say viewing forums of late" so I assumed that this is the about the forum posts?

I was referring to a recent forum post looking for black ladies actually

I reported my own thread yesterday....

I've sorted the quote out for you

I;ve not sen anything wrong with that thread, there is no need to state no Asians, plenty of people have said the samething?

Looking for black women is a peference. Quantifying that with 'no asian women' seems holly unneccesary. But as there is a huge thread about it why does it need another one?

Again I've sorted out your quote

I'm not sure that my profile is relevant to the thread

But as I;ve been on the scene since 2007 I'm not about to start justifying why I;m not meeting.

There are planty of people here just for the forums - are they all keyboard warriors?"

Why be on a site like this to talk? I know the answer. We've been in scene 16 yrs and worked in an adult club. Our insight and experience. Is what fuels what we say. But we wouldn't for one moment. Expect you to understand that. Let's just leave it there. And beg to differ.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mentioning of race and ethnicity does not "cause outrage".

Some wordings in themselves about race and ethnicity are politically incorrect and I would indeed challenge them on here. Shame on me if I didn't challenge them!

Secondly, I myself do not accuse anyone of being racist. I would not know based on online statements if they are. However, I would indeed accuse them of writing racists statements if that is how I read it.

I want an online envioronment free of oppressive statements aimed at specific ethnicities or races.

Lastly, I will take the opportunity to challenge your statements.

When you say "Mentions of the words black,asians ,indian ,white...pink,green,blue [sic]", by including the colours of pink, etc., is this an attempt of ridiculing the discussion of race being a protected characteristic as pink, blue and green are not races but Black, Asian and Indian are?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When you go through life, you are going to offend someone. No 2 ways about it.

I mean the amount of times I've seen on here stating no Asians is staggeringly high and very disheartening for me, but I just accept it and move on.

But for people who list their preferences and state what race someone should or shouldn't be to considered for a meet, then yes it is a preference but also racist at the same time. It's just sugar coating it as being a preference.

To balance it out, all those profiles which state no bi/gay men, yes it is a preference but also homophobic. Again you're sugar coating it as being a preference.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"I don't think anyone confuses a preference with being prejudiced. But a preference for some people can mirror a prejudice and the way that it is presented can often appear prejudiced.

"I'm only looking for white men"

Comes across very different to a shouty preference such as

"NO BLACKS OR ASIANS! Not being racist, just my preference!"

Same with how people describe sexuality. When you see straight men ranting on about not wanting queers or moaning about gays it often comes across as unnecessarily unpleasant.

And presenting a preference as who you want to meet rather than who you exclude is always more positive"

It does to you; it doesn't to me

NO INDIANS or ASIANS

Because "I am sexually attracted to only Black or Caucasian (Northern or Western European only) people" doesn't work with quite a few Indians or Asians

Must be because they think they are Black or White and I only get to either find this out by the third message or worse, when I get to meet them

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Oh, and am I am pre and auto outraged

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I feel I have to add my little bit to this thread. On my profile I state that I have a preference. I state it in a jovial way. So no offence can be taken. Yesterday, I received two abusive messages from someone that were very hurtful to me. They were to do with the fact that I state a preference. Now, after receiving the first message I responded back by saying "if you don't like what you see then don't comment and dont keep looking". I then blocked them. Then I got another abusive message from the same person but on a different profile! I know this, because they referred to my earlier message. Why do people feel the need to troll and be nasty? Just because I have a preference I am not racist in any way shape or form. I'd like to think something is done about this kind of thing. But I'm sceptical. "

Yeah 50 messages yesterday we got yesterday..simply because I said I was approached by a black guy. How is that racist. Just run this by a few black guys we know..who have viewed what was said and our profile as it was yesterday. They feel the abuse we got and are getting is ludicrous. Funnily the people moaning aren't black etc,etc...but white....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Second thoughts.. I can't be arsed....

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By *ungBlackTopMan
over a year ago

salford

rather people call me black than coloured lol hate that description "coloured" doesn't mean someone's racist though, just means they're nervous and unsure of what term to use.

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By *laqgrapeMan
over a year ago

Sanderstead

I personally wouldn't consider anyone to be racist for simply calling me black, thsts what I am and I love it....as for preferences well thats ones choice they are entitled to and I do respect ones choice as I only focus on profiles which say blacks only......racists are here to stay I chat with so many white women who get abuse just because they prefer black guys....cmon get a life, I simply block profiles that say no blacks or asians I simply won't waste time saying anything to them.....its all about choice and if ones racist....do I look like I care

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

That would be 'wholly' not 'holly'. Wouldn't want to offend trees and bushes and anyone called Holly either lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I personally wouldn't consider anyone to be racist for simply calling me black, thsts what I am and I love it....as for preferences well thats ones choice they are entitled to and I do respect ones choice as I only focus on profiles which say blacks only......racists are here to stay I chat with so many white women who get abuse just because they prefer black guys....cmon get a life, I simply block profiles that say no blacks or asians I simply won't waste time saying anything to them.....its all about choice and if ones racist....do I look like I care

At last someone with sanity xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

why is colour even mentioned though?

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

oh and another thing; it is 'my loss', so there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At last someone with sanity xx"

So people disagreeing with you are insane?

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By *laqgrapeMan
over a year ago

Sanderstead

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"why is colour even mentioned though?"

Because it exists and people have preferences

Just as, some people don't want to meet short men. It is not because they think that ALL short men are not nice or unattractive but because they are not attracted to them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why is colour even mentioned though?

Because it exists and people have preferences

Just as, some people don't want to meet short men. It is not because they think that ALL short men are not nice or unattractive but because they are not attracted to them"

Exactly this!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You privy to our personal inbox? no don't think you are. !!!!

I would have thought it was obvious I was talking about the thread. Saame as you appear to be in the second paragraph of your opening post

And besides the opening words of your post here are "Have to say viewing forums of late" so I assumed that this is the about the forum posts?

I was referring to a recent forum post looking for black ladies actually

I reported my own thread yesterday....

I've sorted the quote out for you

I;ve not sen anything wrong with that thread, there is no need to state no Asians, plenty of people have said the samething?

Looking for black women is a peference. Quantifying that with 'no asian women' seems holly unneccesary. But as there is a huge thread about it why does it need another one?

Again I've sorted out your quote

I'm not sure that my profile is relevant to the thread

But as I;ve been on the scene since 2007 I'm not about to start justifying why I;m not meeting.

There are planty of people here just for the forums - are they all keyboard warriors?

Its ironic that you are effectively telling me I shouldn't be on this site on a thread where you're opening posts calls for freedom of speech and bemoans what you feel to be intolerance of other people's views

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By *laqgrapeMan
over a year ago

Sanderstead

"I feel I have to add my little bit to this thread. On my profile I state that I have a preference. I state it in a jovial way. So no offence can be taken. Yesterday, I received two abusive messages from someone that were very hurtful to me. They were to do with the fact that I state a preference. Now, after receiving the first message I responded back by saying "if you don't like what you see then don't comment and dont keep looking". I then blocked them. Then I got another abusive message from the same person but on a different profile! I know this, because they referred to my earlier message. Why do people feel the need to troll and be nasty? Just because I have a preference I am not racist in any way shape or form. I'd like to think , something is done about this kind of thing. But I'm sceptical. Its a common thing here so just block em and move on .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why is colour even mentioned though?

Because it exists and people have preferences

Just as, some people don't want to meet short men. It is not because they think that ALL short men are not nice or unattractive but because they are not attracted to them"

Yea,,would it not be easier just to say what you are looking for.

why a list of races,bodytypes etc

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By *izzlemoonMan
over a year ago

Bath

"why is colour even mentioned though?

Because it exists and people have preferences

Just as, some people don't want to meet short men. It is not because they think that ALL short men are not nice or unattractive but because they are not attracted to them

Exactly this!! "

Thank you. The inability to grasp this and the projection going on in this thread is starting to hurt my brain.

Nice back tattoo btw.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well said I totally agree with you.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"why is colour even mentioned though?

Because it exists and people have preferences

Just as, some people don't want to meet short men. It is not because they think that ALL short men are not nice or unattractive but because they are not attracted to them

Yea,,would it not be easier just to say what you are looking for.

why a list of races,bodytypes etc

Generally I would agree with you. And that is what I do on my profile. But I still get those writing to me who do not interest me

A friend says what she wants AND what she doesn't want; she gets less messages than me from those she isn't attracted to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well I don't care if its Political correctness or not but the phrase "no blacks" kinda creeps me out.

like I said ,why not just state what you are actually looking for.

I fail to see why colour needs to be mentioned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why is colour even mentioned though?

Because it exists and people have preferences

Just as, some people don't want to meet short men. It is not because they think that ALL short men are not nice or unattractive but because they are not attracted to them

Yea,,would it not be easier just to say what you are looking for.

why a list of races,bodytypes etc

Generally I would agree with you. And that is what I do on my profile. But I still get those writing to me who do not interest me

A friend says what she wants AND what she doesn't want; she gets less messages than me from those she isn't attracted to"

oh big deal I get thousands of messages from folk I'm not remotely interested in,,JUST DELETE

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"why is colour even mentioned though?

Because it exists and people have preferences

Just as, some people don't want to meet short men. It is not because they think that ALL short men are not nice or unattractive but because they are not attracted to them

Yea,,would it not be easier just to say what you are looking for.

why a list of races,bodytypes etc

Generally I would agree with you. And that is what I do on my profile. But I still get those writing to me who do not interest me

A friend says what she wants AND what she doesn't want; she gets less messages than me from those she isn't attracted to

oh big deal I get thousands of messages from folk I'm not remotely interested in,,JUST DELETE"

I don't get thousands and I do delete; not a problem there. But it becomes a problem when it takes several messages to work out that they are not what I want because they 'forgot' to mention and hadn't quite read my profile thaaat carefuly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why is colour even mentioned though?

Because it exists and people have preferences

Just as, some people don't want to meet short men. It is not because they think that ALL short men are not nice or unattractive but because they are not attracted to them

Yea,,would it not be easier just to say what you are looking for.

why a list of races,bodytypes etc

Generally I would agree with you. And that is what I do on my profile. But I still get those writing to me who do not interest me

A friend says what she wants AND what she doesn't want; she gets less messages than me from those she isn't attracted to

oh big deal I get thousands of messages from folk I'm not remotely interested in,,JUST DELETE

WOW,,if that bothers you,,

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"why is colour even mentioned though?

Because it exists and people have preferences

Just as, some people don't want to meet short men. It is not because they think that ALL short men are not nice or unattractive but because they are not attracted to them

Yea,,would it not be easier just to say what you are looking for.

why a list of races,bodytypes etc

Generally I would agree with you. And that is what I do on my profile. But I still get those writing to me who do not interest me

A friend says what she wants AND what she doesn't want; she gets less messages than me from those she isn't attracted to

oh big deal I get thousands of messages from folk I'm not remotely interested in,,JUST DELETE

WOW,,if that bothers you,,

Ofcourse it does. My preferences go beyond, "must have one or two arms and/or one or two legs"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"well I don't care if its Political correctness or not but the phrase "no blacks" kinda creeps me out.

like I said ,why not just state what you are actually looking for.

I fail to see why colour needs to be mentioned."

By focusing on words, actions and labels, you may be able to get individuals who show racial insensitivity to rethink their behaviour. By calling them racist, however, you’re much more likely to get an empty apology and defensive rationalisations, all while the person who has made a comment remains as clueless about racism as ever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why is colour even mentioned though?

Because it exists and people have preferences

Just as, some people don't want to meet short men. It is not because they think that ALL short men are not nice or unattractive but because they are not attracted to them

Yea,,would it not be easier just to say what you are looking for.

why a list of races,bodytypes etc

Generally I would agree with you. And that is what I do on my profile. But I still get those writing to me who do not interest me

A friend says what she wants AND what she doesn't want; she gets less messages than me from those she isn't attracted to

oh big deal I get thousands of messages from folk I'm not remotely interested in,,JUST DELETE

WOW,,if that bothers you,,

Ofcourse it does. My preferences go beyond, "must have one or two arms and/or one or two legs"

I would be happy with a faint pulse.........intermittent at that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why is colour even mentioned though?

Because it exists and people have preferences

Just as, some people don't want to meet short men. It is not because they think that ALL short men are not nice or unattractive but because they are not attracted to them

Yea,,would it not be easier just to say what you are looking for.

why a list of races,bodytypes etc

Generally I would agree with you. And that is what I do on my profile. But I still get those writing to me who do not interest me

A friend says what she wants AND what she doesn't want; she gets less messages than me from those she isn't attracted to

oh big deal I get thousands of messages from folk I'm not remotely interested in,,JUST DELETE

WOW,,if that bothers you,,

Ofcourse it does. My preferences go beyond, "must have one or two arms and/or one or two legs"

id say I'm fussier than most,,but so what I get unwanted messages,,its the nature of a site like this

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"why is colour even mentioned though?

Because it exists and people have preferences

Just as, some people don't want to meet short men. It is not because they think that ALL short men are not nice or unattractive but because they are not attracted to them

Yea,,would it not be easier just to say what you are looking for.

why a list of races,bodytypes etc

Generally I would agree with you. And that is what I do on my profile. But I still get those writing to me who do not interest me

A friend says what she wants AND what she doesn't want; she gets less messages than me from those she isn't attracted to

oh big deal I get thousands of messages from folk I'm not remotely interested in,,JUST DELETE

WOW,,if that bothers you,,

Ofcourse it does. My preferences go beyond, "must have one or two arms and/or one or two legs"

I would be happy with a faint pulse.........intermittent at that!"

I have met some with a faint pulse which stopped the moment they met me; I have a get-a-away driver waiting

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Mentioning of race and ethnicity does not "cause outrage".

Some wordings in themselves about race and ethnicity are politically incorrect and I would indeed challenge them on here. Shame on me if I didn't challenge them!

I want an online envioronment free of oppressive statements aimed at specific ethnicities or races.

Lastly, I will take the opportunity to challenge your statements.

Will not alter what we say or print. Freedom of speech. Will remain exactly that Free ! Your opinion is valid because of that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mentioning of race and ethnicity does not "cause outrage".

Some wordings in themselves about race and ethnicity are politically incorrect and I would indeed challenge them on here. Shame on me if I didn't challenge them!

I want an online envioronment free of oppressive statements aimed at specific ethnicities or races.

Lastly, I will take the opportunity to challenge your statements.

Will not alter what we say or print. Freedom of speech. Will remain exactly that Free ! Your opinion is valid because of that "

that's cool,,but don't be surprised if people think its racist,,freedom of speech n all

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Mentioning of race and ethnicity does not "cause outrage".

Some wordings in themselves about race and ethnicity are politically incorrect and I would indeed challenge them on here. Shame on me if I didn't challenge them!

I want an online envioronment free of oppressive statements aimed at specific ethnicities or races.

Lastly, I will take the opportunity to challenge your statements.

Will not alter what we say or print. Freedom of speech. Will remain exactly that Free ! Your opinion is valid because of that

that's cool,,but don't be surprised if people think its racist,,freedom of speech n all

I think you mean, 'some people'

And some people won't think it is racist. Again, a choice people have and make

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mentioning of race and ethnicity does not "cause outrage".

Some wordings in themselves about race and ethnicity are politically incorrect and I would indeed challenge them on here. Shame on me if I didn't challenge them!

I want an online envioronment free of oppressive statements aimed at specific ethnicities or races.

Lastly, I will take the opportunity to challenge your statements.

Will not alter what we say or print. Freedom of speech. Will remain exactly that Free ! Your opinion is valid because of that

that's cool,,but don't be surprised if people think its racist,,freedom of speech n all

I think you mean, 'some people'

And some people won't think it is racist. Again, a choice people have and make"

well I reckon most would think "no blacks" is racist.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Mentioning of race and ethnicity does not "cause outrage".

Some wordings in themselves about race and ethnicity are politically incorrect and I would indeed challenge them on here. Shame on me if I didn't challenge them!

I want an online envioronment free of oppressive statements aimed at specific ethnicities or races.

Lastly, I will take the opportunity to challenge your statements.

Will not alter what we say or print. Freedom of speech. Will remain exactly that Free ! Your opinion is valid because of that

that's cool,,but don't be surprised if people think its racist,,freedom of speech n all

I think you mean, 'some people'

And some people won't think it is racist. Again, a choice people have and make

well I reckon most would think "no blacks" is racist.

Prove it; I reckon most would think it is not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why is colour even mentioned though?

Because it exists and people have preferences

Just as, some people don't want to meet short men. It is not because they think that ALL short men are not nice or unattractive but because they are not attracted to them

Exactly this!!

Thank you. The inability to grasp this and the projection going on in this thread is starting to hurt my brain.

Nice back tattoo btw.

Thank you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

a bit like that golf club that says "no women" its fucking stupid.

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over a year ago

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't think anyone confuses a preference with being prejudiced. But a preference for some people can mirror a prejudice and the way that it is presented can often appear prejudiced.

"I'm only looking for white men"

Comes across very different to a shouty preference such as

"NO BLACKS OR ASIANS! Not being racist, just my preference!"

Same with how people describe sexuality. When you see straight men ranting on about not wanting queers or moaning about gays it often comes across as unnecessarily unpleasant.

And presenting a preference as who you want to meet rather than who you exclude is always more positive"

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Start a Golf club that says "no men"

I have been to a couple of lesbian clubs which have that rule

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By *inky BunnyMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

People have been brainwashed into loving their daily Hour of Hate. Synthetic rage.

Social engineers are rubbing their hands together xx

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester

Whom someone chooses to meet for sex is entirely their choice. However, I find it hard to believe that some of you are ignorant/stupid/naive enough to truly believe SOME of the so-called preferences are not motivated by racism.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Whom someone chooses to meet for sex is entirely their choice. However, I find it hard to believe that some of you are ignorant/stupid/naive enough to truly believe SOME of the so-called preferences are not motivated by racism."

Can truly say we are not at all racist.x

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By *izzlemoonMan
over a year ago

Bath

"Nice back tattoo btw.

Thank you

No thank you

Shame I'm outside your age preference... I guess that makes you an ageist [dramatic music]

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By *inky BunnyMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

So to prove we're not racist you now have to have sex with every race going???

To be fair to the psychopaths I can see this being law one day xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Mentioning of race and ethnicity does not "cause outrage".

Some wordings in themselves about race and ethnicity are politically incorrect and I would indeed challenge them on here. Shame on me if I didn't challenge them!

I want an online envioronment free of oppressive statements aimed at specific ethnicities or races.

Lastly, I will take the opportunity to challenge your statements.

Will not alter what we say or print. Freedom of speech. Will remain exactly that Free ! Your opinion is valid because of that

that's cool,,but don't be surprised if people think its racist,,freedom of speech n all

I think you mean, 'some people'

And some people won't think it is racist. Again, a choice people have and make

well I reckon most would think "no blacks" is racist.

Prove it; I reckon most would think it is not

Omg dare we say the word black ...our preference is to meet black guys. But we branded being racist,for saying the word black!! Can anyone advise,how we get a across our preference to meet these particular guys...without using the word ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is nothing wrong with deviating towards a certains appearance or physical characteristic. We all have our taste, and i guess that's what people mean as their 'preference'. However when people say they don't want someone of a particular race because that's their preference, its sometimes comes across to me that they would not ever consider someone of that race. If that is the case i feel that is an incorrect use of the word 'preference'. For example i 'prefer' men who are over 6 foot tall. But that is only a preference and that does not mean that i am not interested in any men under six foot. Another example, a lot of men might prefer women with large breasts. But that does out out rule women with smaller breasts as it is only a preference. But when it comes to the expression of racial preferences, the word 'preference' seems to be a bit more hard and fast. Or have i misinterpreted what people mean when they express their racial preferences?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So to prove we're not racist you now have to have sex with every race going???

To be fair to the psychopaths I can see this being law one day xx"
basically yeah

it's become acceptable to sleep with other races to prove your not a racist

not in my old mans day or my grandads generation

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"There is nothing wrong with deviating towards a certains appearance or physical characteristic. We all have our taste, and i guess that's what people mean as their 'preference'. However when people say they don't want someone of a particular race because that's their preference, its sometimes comes across to me that they would not ever consider someone of that race. If that is the case i feel that is an incorrect use of the word 'preference'. For example i 'prefer' men who are over 6 foot tall. But that is only a preference and that does not mean that i am not interested in any men under six foot. Another example, a lot of men might prefer women with large breasts. But that does out out rule women with smaller breasts as it is only a preference. But when it comes to the expression of racial preferences, the word 'preference' seems to be a bit more hard and fast. Or have i misinterpreted what people mean when they express their racial preferences?"

And if you excluded every man under 6' tall or if a man excluded every woman with small breasts that would mean, what exactly?

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By *inky BunnyMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"To be fair to the psychopaths I can see this being law one day xx basically yeah

it's become acceptable to sleep with other races to prove your not a racist

not in my old mans day or my grandads generation

White genetic genocide anyone??

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

So to prove we're not racist you now have to have sex with every race going???

To be fair to the psychopaths I can see this being law one day xx"

Only one from every race going; that would placate the pre and auto outraged crowd

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"By focusing on words, actions and labels, you may be able to get individuals who show racial insensitivity to rethink their behaviour. By calling them racist, however, you’re much more likely to get an empty apology and defensive rationalisations, all while the person who has made a comment remains as clueless about racism as ever."
One did try, one got no reply. Or no reply so far, at least.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nice back tattoo btw.

Thank you

No thank you

Shame I'm outside your age preference... I guess that makes you an ageist [dramatic music]"

Omg!!! Quick I better change that too!! So I guess anyone and everyone from 18-99 should just about cover it. What d'ya reckon?

Oh btw. There's always room for manoeuvre.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hahaha I noticed all the moaners bandying the word racist about were white

. Keyboard warriors is correct.

Try getting spat on when you're 6 years of age cause you look different to the local bully, or followed in shops by security guards. These are the tip of the iceberg and what I would deem racism. NOT describing someone as black. No wonder people don't take true racism seriously when idiots throw the word around at any given opportunity. Boils my piss

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Hahaha I noticed all the moaners bandying the word racist about were white

. Keyboard warriors is correct.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And if you excluded every man under 6' tall or if a man excluded every woman with small breasts that would mean, what exactly?"

To me it would mean that someone's taste is a hard and fast rule as opposed to a preference. I regard the word preference as more flexible.

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester

So to prove we're not racist you now have to have sex with every race going???

To be fair to the psychopaths I can see this being law one day xx"

I did highlight the word SOME for the likes of you.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"well I don't care if its Political correctness or not but the phrase "no blacks" kinda creeps me out.

like I said ,why not just state what you are actually looking for.

I fail to see why colour needs to be mentioned."

Yes but didn't you know you aren't allowed to have an opinion on this because you are white. I would suspect the reason it creeps you out is because its a throw back phrase and ... as many people now realise, using such terminology suggests rudeness or laziness; similarly, the use of the term BBC by a white couple does not absolve them of being racist.

I suspect, OP, that you are referring to my questioning your inclusion of the word 'black' in your description of the person hassling you at the club over the weekend in this post which is reviving a thread which has been removed. I was simply asking a question, not implying or suggesting any racist intent. You jumped to that conclusion .... all you needed to say was, I put the term black in because .... I did not include any other details of his description because it was important he was black? If questioning someone to get more clarification is politically correct, then I hold my hands up to being politically correct. To me it means I have a brain, live in the real world and think about things .... sorry for my late entrance to this thread, been out and about, not on the forums.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

Hahaha I noticed all the moaners bandying the word racist about were white

. Keyboard warriors is correct.

I have no problem being white and making a stand against it. Primarily because I lived in the USA and was married to an African American and have mixed race kids. So, as a mother, I notice what my kids are going through ... and my partner and his two kids (also mixed race as he is black). Saying white people can't have an opinion on racism is .... well, I can't say what I think here. I don't assume all black people have the same experience nor do I assume all white people do. I don't lump people together .... I understand my experience of living in black communities is very different from many people. I just call it as I see it. This includes not ever going to see my ex's family is Mississippi for fear of my life .... mixed race marriages aren't look upon favourably there, or at least they weren't in the 1990s. I don't generally see that level of racism here in the UK, but then I do live in London, so I live a sheltered life.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

And if you excluded every man under 6' tall or if a man excluded every woman with small breasts that would mean, what exactly?

To me it would mean that someone's taste is a hard and fast rule as opposed to a preference. I regard the word preference as more flexible."

That is how I see it too

I have met a few short men in clubs but there I can see other aspects which may attract me to them

On a website, there is nothing more for me to see but that he is under 6' tall, so is a hard and fast rule here

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By *litheroevoyeurMan
over a year ago

Clitheroe

Mentioning of race and ethnicity does not "cause outrage".

Some wordings in themselves about race and ethnicity are politically incorrect and I would indeed challenge them on here. Shame on me if I didn't challenge them!

I want an online envioronment free of oppressive statements aimed at specific ethnicities or races.

Lastly, I will take the opportunity to challenge your statements.

Will not alter what we say or print. Freedom of speech. Will remain exactly that Free ! Your opinion is valid because of that

that's cool,,but don't be surprised if people think its racist,,freedom of speech n all

I think you mean, 'some people'

And some people won't think it is racist. Again, a choice people have and make

well I reckon most would think "no blacks" is racist.

Well I think it depends on context and intenquote] someone simply means that they do not wish to have sex with a black person it is quite clearly a preference and is in no way racist.

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By *izzlemoonMan
over a year ago

Bath

"Oh btw. There's always room for manoeuvre.

Indeed. Well I always welcome advances... feel free to say hi.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

Mentioning of race and ethnicity does not "cause outrage".

Some wordings in themselves about race and ethnicity are politically incorrect and I would indeed challenge them on here. Shame on me if I didn't challenge them!

I want an online envioronment free of oppressive statements aimed at specific ethnicities or races.

Lastly, I will take the opportunity to challenge your statements.

Will not alter what we say or print. Freedom of speech. Will remain exactly that Free ! Your opinion is valid because of that

that's cool,,but don't be surprised if people think its racist,,freedom of speech n all

I think you mean, 'some people'

And some people won't think it is racist. Again, a choice people have and make

well I reckon most would think "no blacks" is racist.

Look up the definition of racism, it means that one views a race as inferior,someone saying they dont want to meet people with black skin to me means that they arent attracted to that colour not that they think people of that colour are inferior,no different to someone saying they dont wish to meet Bi people or fat or thin or hairy or bald, this is meant to be a sex site and most will only have sex with people they are attracted too

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

Mentioning of race and ethnicity does not "cause outrage".

Some wordings in themselves about race and ethnicity are politically incorrect and I would indeed challenge them on here. Shame on me if I didn't challenge them!

I want an online envioronment free of oppressive statements aimed at specific ethnicities or races.

Lastly, I will take the opportunity to challenge your statements.

Will not alter what we say or print. Freedom of speech. Will remain exactly that Free ! Your opinion is valid because of that

that's cool,,but don't be surprised if people think its racist,,freedom of speech n all

I think you mean, 'some people'

And some people won't think it is racist. Again, a choice people have and make

well I reckon most would think "no blacks" is racist.

It comes down to how it's worded in my book. People don't have to be offensive about it ... nor do they have to objectify others. Its just my personal opinion ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If a coloured person doesnt want to meet white guys or girls are they racist then ?

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"If a coloured person doesnt want to meet white guys or girls are they racist then ? "

Or if a White person only wants to meet non-White people? Would that be racism?

The answer to both those questions is, "no"

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

I think only a certain type of person puts 'no ...., no ....., no ....' type comments as their 'preferences'. Others indicted their preferences in a more positive way. How hard is it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So why do some say its racist when white people say they dont want to meet black guys or girls ?

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"So why do some say its racist when white people say they dont want to meet black guys or girls ?"

Because, that is their 'preference'

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By *adyboy-DaddyCouple
over a year ago

Andover

Lots and lots of nonesense being written on both sides of the debate.

It's a pointless debate.

If you are offering a service available to all but then declare "no purple people" you could wrightly be accused of purpleist.

But as people are not offering a service open to all but a service based on personal preferences they can and will define those preferences.

Some of those preferences will be as a result of what the person does or does not find atractive.

Some will be as a result racism, ageism, culturalism, homophobia and just plain ticking stupidity.

But as you have no way of knowing the reason behind the preference and no one is going to own up to it being an "ism" the whole debate just goes pointlessly round and round.

And by the way, I'm prejudiced. Your prejudiced. We are all prejudiced. It's impossible not to pre-judge others based on our own life experiences.

It's how you act toward others based on those unavoidable prejudices that make you a cock or not.

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By *ngel n tedCouple
over a year ago

maidstone

If a butterfly flaps it's wings in china......will someone be offended

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By *errygTV/TS
over a year ago

denton

i dont meet asians thats my choice, same as people dont meet tvs, but you dont get the same outcry, there was a swingers club in greater manchester that had a sign up no tvs/ transgenger, no forums on that, imagine sign no asians

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"If a butterfly flaps it's wings in china......will someone be offended

And there are those who won't be offended at anything ... tough decision which camp to be in? If I say something that genuinely offends and I haven't considered it might, then I will apologise ... and realise I have learned something new. Some people take it on board, others don't ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lots and lots of nonesense being written on both sides of the debate.

It's a pointless debate.

If you are offering a service available to all but then declare "no purple people" you could wrightly be accused of purpleist.

But as people are not offering a service open to all but a service based on personal preferences they can and will define those preferences.

Some of those preferences will be as a result of what the person does or does not find atractive.

Some will be as a result racism, ageism, culturalism, homophobia and just plain ticking stupidity.

But as you have no way of knowing the reason behind the preference and no one is going to own up to it being an "ism" the whole debate just goes pointlessly round and round.

And by the way, I'm prejudiced. Your prejudiced. We are all prejudiced. It's impossible not to pre-judge others based on our own life experiences.

It's how you act toward others based on those unavoidable prejudices that make you a cock or not. "

At last, a sensible view.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"i dont meet asians thats my choice, same as people dont meet tvs, but you dont get the same outcry, there was a swingers club in greater manchester that had a sign up no tvs/ transgenger, no forums on that, imagine sign no asians"

There have been discussions about what clubs 'allow' and certain types of play being restricted to certain nights .. you make a good point. Lots of the time, everything apart from the mainstream is indeed marginalised to different nights. we find it so hard to get what we are looking for from a club ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lots and lots of nonesense being written on both sides of the debate.

It's a pointless debate.

If you are offering a service available to all but then declare "no purple people" you could wrightly be accused of purpleist.

But as people are not offering a service open to all but a service based on personal preferences they can and will define those preferences.

Some of those preferences will be as a result of what the person does or does not find atractive.

Some will be as a result racism, ageism, culturalism, homophobia and just plain ticking stupidity.

But as you have no way of knowing the reason behind the preference and no one is going to own up to it being an "ism" the whole debate just goes pointlessly round and round.

And by the way, I'm prejudiced. Your prejudiced. We are all prejudiced. It's impossible not to pre-judge others based on our own life experiences.

It's how you act toward others based on those unavoidable prejudices that make you a cock or not. "

We have a winner

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By *errygTV/TS
over a year ago

denton

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

A totally agree with you ... and I wonder where the impetus for that came from. Some things I don't think should be 'relegated' to a theme though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This preference word is the worst word in the dictionary same as the "r" word and majority have had enough of hearing it

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