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"Where do flies go at night? I know what u mean" They congregate in the inner edges of closed windows on the west side of the house, the side which gets the last of the warm sun, especially liking velux windows. So, when you open them in the night, the room is buzzing with flies. Know this all too well. | |||
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"Why do straight guys say they are bi but put straight in their profiles ?" Dishonesty springs to mind | |||
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"Why do straight guys say they are bi but put straight in their profiles ? Dishonesty springs to mind " I agree, why not be honest up front | |||
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"It's fab 'straight' though isn't it,it's not straight straight I have looked and it doesn't give you the option to put straight straight or do you have to type it yourself, I don't want people assuming I'm "Fab straight" " All men are presumed to be fab straight on this site,the option isn't there to be straight straight. If you want to be straight straight you need to join another site for straight straight people | |||
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"Why do straight guys say they are bi but put straight in their profiles ? Dishonesty springs to mind I agree, why not be honest up front " See my answer above, that's literally why they not honest up front. | |||
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"Ahh the elusive actually straight male, similar in nature to the single bi fem unicorns" One here....an actually straight male. And my best friend Loz....happens to be a true unicorn! We are not that rare at all..... | |||
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"It's fab 'straight' though isn't it,it's not straight straight I have looked and it doesn't give you the option to put straight straight or do you have to type it yourself, I don't want people assuming I'm "Fab straight" All men are presumed to be fab straight on this site,the option isn't there to be straight straight. If you want to be straight straight you need to join another site for straight straight people " Luckily for me joining another site isn't necessary as there are still Women who like to meet straight straight Men on here | |||
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"Ahh the elusive actually straight male, similar in nature to the single bi fem unicorns One here....an actually straight male. And my best friend Loz....happens to be a true unicorn! We are not that rare at all....." Well to be fair there is only you two, you are unique, lucky buggers | |||
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"It's fab 'straight' though isn't it,it's not straight straight I have looked and it doesn't give you the option to put straight straight or do you have to type it yourself, I don't want people assuming I'm "Fab straight" All men are presumed to be fab straight on this site,the option isn't there to be straight straight. If you want to be straight straight you need to join another site for straight straight people Luckily for me joining another site isn't necessary as there are still Women who like to meet straight straight Men on here " Yeah you can stay | |||
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"Why do straight guys say they are bi but put straight in their profiles ? Dishonesty springs to mind I agree, why not be honest up front See my answer above, that's literally why they not honest up front. " Makes it hard to find bi guy's when they don't have it on their profile,so in one respect they're missing out on something they enjoy doing because people can't find the buggers | |||
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"Why do straight guys say they are bi but put straight in their profiles ? Dishonesty springs to mind I agree, why not be honest up front See my answer above, that's literally why they not honest up front. Makes it hard to find bi guy's when they don't have it on their profile,so in one respect they're missing out on something they enjoy doing because people can't find the buggers" Those damn buggers | |||
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"Why do straight guys say they are bi but put straight in their profiles ?" its all about being bi on the sly, and only revealing their sexuality when they know they have found someone who is looking for a bi guy simples | |||
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"Why do straight guys say they are bi but put straight in their profiles ? Dishonesty springs to mind I agree, why not be honest up front See my answer above, that's literally why they not honest up front. Makes it hard to find bi guy's when they don't have it on their profile,so in one respect they're missing out on something they enjoy doing because people can't find the buggers" Hard to find women into bi guys | |||
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"Why do straight guys say they are bi but put straight in their profiles ? Dishonesty springs to mind I agree, why not be honest up front See my answer above, that's literally why they not honest up front. Makes it hard to find bi guy's when they don't have it on their profile,so in one respect they're missing out on something they enjoy doing because people can't find the buggers Hard to find women into bi guys " So many straight guys like meeting Tgirls - that's why we are all on Fabswingers... | |||
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"Why do straight guys say they are bi but put straight in their profiles ? Dishonesty springs to mind I agree, why not be honest up front See my answer above, that's literally why they not honest up front. Makes it hard to find bi guy's when they don't have it on their profile,so in one respect they're missing out on something they enjoy doing because people can't find the buggers Hard to find women into bi guys So many straight guys like meeting Tgirls - that's why we are all on Fabswingers..." 99% of guys I meet of here are married or with g/f and I love it x | |||
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"Where do flies go at night? I know what u mean They congregate in the inner edges of closed windows on the west side of the house, the side which gets the last of the warm sun, especially liking velux windows. So, when you open them in the night, the room is buzzing with flies. Know this all too well. " Brilliant reply! | |||
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"Why do straight guys say they are bi but put straight in their profiles ?" Because they want to keep it quiet and don't want it to be public. There are a million reasons why that might be. Who cares anyway? He might be straight 95% of the time but on occasion find a guy or tv' attractive. I don't get why this is an issue for people as long as we practice safe sex, and not every bi guy is into anal or kissing or whatever, does that mean they're 30% bi? Is there a scale or some way to quantify how bi you are? Pigeonholing and absolutes don't apply to the spectrum of human sexuality. It's far more complex and fluid for lines not to blur. | |||
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" Is there a scale or some way to quantify how bi you are?" Yes there is, it's called The Kinsey Scale. | |||
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" Is there a scale or some way to quantify how bi you are? Yes there is, it's called The Kinsey Scale." Kinsey wrote "Males do not represent two discrete populations, heterosexual and homosexual. The world is not to be divided into sheep and goats. It is a fundamental of taxonomy that nature rarely deals with discrete categories... The living world is a continuum in each and every one of its aspects." The reason I disagree with applying these scales to people is the very reason Kinsey thought such a scale was even necessary. "Sexual behavior is either normal or abnormal, socially acceptable or unacceptable, heterosexual or homosexual; and many persons do not want to believe that there are gradations in these matters from one to the other extreme.” I don't think applying terms like 'abnormal' and 'socially unacceptable' to gay and bisexual people is where society is at nowadays. He wrote those words in 1953, the same year Bletchley Park code breaker Alan Turing was undergoing chemical castration in prison for the crime of being gay. He died the following year. And that was your fault. No not really, I'm kidding, but scales are for greengrocers and fishies. Not hooman beans. | |||
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"The answer to most forum questions is "to get laid" " Absolutely...many couples will not meet if they suspect the male of the meet is bi...so some couples put straight on profile (for the male) so as not to put people off. | |||
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"The reason I disagree with applying these scales to people is the very reason Kinsey thought such a scale was even necessary. "Sexual behavior is either normal or abnormal, socially acceptable or unacceptable, heterosexual or homosexual; and many persons do not want to believe that there are gradations in these matters from one to the other extreme.” " Now I read that as Kinsey agreeing with you and I think that was the whole point. | |||
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"Why do straight guys say they are bi but put straight in their profiles ? Dishonesty springs to mind I agree, why not be honest up front See my answer above, that's literally why they not honest up front. Makes it hard to find bi guy's when they don't have it on their profile,so in one respect they're missing out on something they enjoy doing because people can't find the buggers" It can be an issue for us. We were in a hotel the other night, using the "who's near" function but almost all the guys say straight so we don't contact them. | |||
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"Why do straight guys say they are bi but put straight in their profiles ? Dishonesty springs to mind I agree, why not be honest up front See my answer above, that's literally why they not honest up front. Makes it hard to find bi guy's when they don't have it on their profile,so in one respect they're missing out on something they enjoy doing because people can't find the buggers It can be an issue for us. We were in a hotel the other night, using the "who's near" function but almost all the guys say straight so we don't contact them. " Crazy isn't it... | |||
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" So many straight guys like meeting Tgirls - that's why we are all on Fabswingers...99% of guys I meet of here are married or with g/f and I love it x Personally I think it is absolutely appalling to see you boast of your enthusiasm for meeting married men. Yes of course they are primarily the ones to be criticized for cheating but your attitude is just as disgusting. Even in swinging there are some moral rules." To a fair extent, I would agree. I'm sure many of the guys we meet have partners (we don't ask) but there is certainly no way in which hem having a partner would enhance our enjoyment of the situation. That's literally saying that you are getting pleasure from the knowledge that an Inocent person is being lied to and deceived. And for what? Your own ego? | |||
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"Mind you, I graded F on the Kinsey scale so what do I know " So you didn't understand how to answer the questions? "F The test failed to match you to a Kinsey Type profile. Either you answered some questions wrong, or you are a very unusual person." | |||
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"There's nothing worse than repression so if guys fancy a bit of dick from time to time who cares? I get messages from straight guys and I meet some of them - as long as it's discreet then I don't think it's harming anyone - better that than being frustrated and uptight. " Well they are not straight then are they. If they like cock at anytime then they are bi or bicurious at least so why not say so? | |||
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"There's nothing worse than repression so if guys fancy a bit of dick from time to time who cares? I get messages from straight guys and I meet some of them - as long as it's discreet then I don't think it's harming anyone - better that than being frustrated and uptight. Well they are not straight then are they. If they like cock at anytime then they are bi or bicurious at least so why not say so?" They have their reasons I guess. Does it really matter? Why is it necessary to label? What purpose does it serve? | |||
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"Ahh the elusive actually straight male, similar in nature to the single bi fem unicorns" Really? I'm straight and have no interest in men. | |||
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"It's fab 'straight' though isn't it,it's not straight straight I have looked and it doesn't give you the option to put straight straight or do you have to type it yourself, I don't want people assuming I'm "Fab straight" All men are presumed to be fab straight on this site,the option isn't there to be straight straight. If you want to be straight straight you need to join another site for straight straight people " Or you can use the message filters like me. I don't get bothered anymore and, at least if I do receive the occasional wink or message I know it's from a lady. | |||
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"There's nothing worse than repression so if guys fancy a bit of dick from time to time who cares? I get messages from straight guys and I meet some of them - as long as it's discreet then I don't think it's harming anyone - better that than being frustrated and uptight. Well they are not straight then are they. If they like cock at anytime then they are bi or bicurious at least so why not say so? They have their reasons I guess. Does it really matter? Why is it necessary to label? What purpose does it serve?" Why do labels serve a purpose! It is a swingers site. Labels help establish people's sexual interests and expectations. If this was a site for politics or model trains then I wouldn't give a stuff regarding other members sexuality. It's not so I don't think I am being unreasonable to expect an honest answer on this point. | |||
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"Where do flies go at night? I know what u mean They congregate in the inner edges of closed windows on the west side of the house, the side which gets the last of the warm sun, especially liking velux windows. So, when you open them in the night, the room is buzzing with flies. Know this all too well. " Thanks. I was actually curious about that. | |||
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"Morals and swinging? Can we use those terms together? If anyone is outraged by the content of swinging sites then why participate in them?" So they can be offended, it's became a national pastime. It's stange how flexible peoples moral compass can be for their own kinks, but rigidly opposed to other peoples | |||
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"Regards the why bi people say they are straight - I mean, i know ! If you can't trust a complete stranger to tell the truth, then who can you trust ? Guys tend to get more replies if they have their face pic on. If they do that, then they are loathe to put bi, especially if not out as anyone can see it. I have Bi, but wouldn't put my face pic up because of it. So, i'm honest, but faceless. Personaly, if someone has straight, i wont meet. Mainly in case they are just dabbling, and have a bad reaction to trying it out. " | |||
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"Mind you, I graded F on the Kinsey scale so what do I know So you didn't understand how to answer the questions? "F The test failed to match you to a Kinsey Type profile. Either you answered some questions wrong, or you are a very unusual person."" I answered every question 100% truthfully (real world truth not 'Fab' truth) so I must be a freak | |||
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"The answer to most forum questions is "to get laid" " That's exactly right! | |||
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"To widen the net of potential meets.....but in the end it is simply misleading others" I'm of the opinion that it actually lessens the net of potential meets. Reason being that bisexual people can have sex with both men and women and some intelligent people know that bi men, for example, can play as straight as a straight guy. Best of both. As many people say 'no bi men' as those who say 'no straight men' in my experience. | |||
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"Mind you, I graded F on the Kinsey scale so what do I know So you didn't understand how to answer the questions? "F The test failed to match you to a Kinsey Type profile. Either you answered some questions wrong, or you are a very unusual person." I answered every question 100% truthfully (real world truth not 'Fab' truth) so I must be a freak " So did I and came out as being completely straight. Go figure. | |||
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"So what about a situation where a couple or a female who completely object to meeting men who engages in same sex activity have their rights violated by someone with a dishonest/misleading profile,, Is that ok? Excuses are not reasons... a lie is an intentional act of deception...... " Same could be said for all the 'single' men on here. I get berated at times for being honest and admitting i'm in a relationship, but strange how all these local guys disappear at weekends, and during the school holidays. A lot of these couples that state 'no cheaters' are probably deluding themselves if they genuinely believe they have never met with married men. As far as having your rights violated, what right would that be ? The right to believe some story a complete stranger tells you because it's naughty to lie ? I get why people don't want to meet guys that have Bi, and i also get why some people lie about it. As my mate tarzan used to say - it's a jungle out there. | |||
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"people can't find the buggers" If you specify anal in the 'interested in' choice you might find one or two... | |||
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"So what about a situation where a couple or a female who completely object to meeting men who engages in same sex activity have their rights violated by someone with a dishonest/misleading profile,, Is that ok? Excuses are not reasons... a lie is an intentional act of deception...... Same could be said for all the 'single' men on here. I get berated at times for being honest and admitting i'm in a relationship, but strange how all these local guys disappear at weekends, and during the school holidays. A lot of these couples that state 'no cheaters' are probably deluding themselves if they genuinely believe they have never met with married men. As far as having your rights violated, what right would that be ? The right to believe some story a complete stranger tells you because it's naughty to lie ? I get why people don't want to meet guys that have Bi, and i also get why some people lie about it. As my mate tarzan used to say - it's a jungle out there." If you cant see it that's ok..... But if you genuinely believe its acceptable for guys to intentionally deceive someone who has expressed their aversion to meeting guys who engage in same sex activity then nothing I can say will help you understand what is intrinsically wrong with that situation... | |||
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"Mind you, I graded F on the Kinsey scale so what do I know So you didn't understand how to answer the questions? "F The test failed to match you to a Kinsey Type profile. Either you answered some questions wrong, or you are a very unusual person." I answered every question 100% truthfully (real world truth not 'Fab' truth) so I must be a freak So did I and came out as being completely straight. Go figure. " Hahahaha! That comment made me genuinely laugh out loud! | |||
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" because there is a very significant amount of women and couples who won't meet bi guys, so they put straight and them contact guys privately. Simples. " This is exactly why some guys hide it. I am down as "bi curious" and often get mail from "straight" guys, mostly looking to cheat on their wives | |||
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"Our experience appears to be the opposite of most who have left messages. We find that when we go to Chams Monday Bi-Night at least 50% of the guys claim to be straight although they are aware the evening is for Bi folks only . They seem to think it only applies to the ladies. The bit that really pisses us off is when you ask a guy who is about to play with the lady whether he is bi or straight and he gets totally uptight at the thought that we might think he is Bi, although he is present at Bi-Night G&A" I am a single, bi guy over 50. The Chams bi night is quite appealing to me, haven't plucked up the courage to go so far. Would you recommend it? | |||
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"Ahh the elusive actually straight male, similar in nature to the single bi fem unicorns One here....an actually straight male. And my best friend Loz....happens to be a true unicorn! We are not that rare at all..... Well to be fair there is only you two, you are unique, lucky buggers " Well we/I have met several very single and very bi fems....so really not so rare as to be called unicorns.....as for me....from this thread I may, indeed be the one and only actually straight guy with a bi fem best friend...! | |||
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"In fact it was explained to us recently that if a guy "perceives" himself to be a woman then that is exactly what he is. In which case sex between him and another guy is in fact not the homosexual variety but heterosexual. Go figure!" Yes, that is a load of bollocks*, isn't it? *Pun possibly intended. | |||
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"In fact it was explained to us recently that if a guy "perceives" himself to be a woman then that is exactly what he is. In which case sex between him and another guy is in fact not the homosexual variety but heterosexual. Go figure! Yes, that is a load of bollocks*, isn't it? *Pun possibly intended." I believe so. This argument is the transgender/transexual communities equivalent of the Emperors new clothing parable and pointing it out attracts some nasty name calling. Whatever. | |||
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"Why do straight guys say they are bi but put straight in their profiles ?" Maybe straight is how they view them self and bi is how others view them. Not everything has to have a label some people just enjoy life | |||
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"Why do straight guys say they are bi but put straight in their profiles ? Maybe straight is how they view them self and bi is how others view them. Not everything has to have a label some people just enjoy life " A fair point but in the absence of any better aid an honest self description of a person's sexual inclination is useful on a sex site. Deliberate dishonesty however is pretty widespread on this issue. | |||
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" If someone is bisexual, they have every right to keep that private, should they want to. Nobody should have to disclose every aspect of sexuality. The problem is that we have to check a box when we complete our profiles, thus leaving a dilemma for those who don't want to say what their sexual status is." If they have to tick a box then is it too much to ask that they are at least honest with their answer. It is a sex site after all. An honest answer will help all parties set boundaries and expectations. | |||
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"It all internal and external homophobia no matter how uncomfortable that makes anyone feel. We need to get the fuck over it. Fuck who you like, if people don't like it - fuck them (not literally, obvs ) Time to end the shaming. " Who is shaming? All we are trying to say is we prefer people on a sex site to give an honest answer about their sexuality. I suggest you get over this nonsense of accusing people of homophobia simply because their preferences do not include you. | |||
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"It all internal and external homophobia no matter how uncomfortable that makes anyone feel. We need to get the fuck over it. Fuck who you like, if people don't like it - fuck them (not literally, obvs ) Time to end the shaming. Who is shaming? All we are trying to say is we prefer people on a sex site to give an honest answer about their sexuality. I suggest you get over this nonsense of accusing people of homophobia simply because their preferences do not include you. " I think for us personally, we don't expect people to be brutally honest with us about their sexuality or sexual interests. After all it's just a bit of fun. As long as our boundaries are respected that's all that matters for us. | |||
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"It all internal and external homophobia no matter how uncomfortable that makes anyone feel. We need to get the fuck over it. Fuck who you like, if people don't like it - fuck them (not literally, obvs ) Time to end the shaming. " I totally agree....and I respect everyone's right to state their sexuality as they see fit. I do the same. I state straight, because it is what I am. I have never engaged in a sexual act with another man...unless a female was between us...DP, spit roast etc. I have no intention to ever do so. I have, however, been involved in group activities involving bisexual men with women. I have no hang-ups whatsoever. I do, however, believe that honesty, up-front, does avoid potential confusion. To me you are straight, bi-curious or actively bi-sexual......it's not rocket science! | |||
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