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"Why you wont meet with attached men, even if there on fab as a couple and have partners permission to play alone. Just curious as I dont understand it. " Many single women who say they won't do anyway. My OH and I both have single profiles and he's clear on his that he is attached .... a number of women who explicitly state they won't meet attached are trying to meet him. That's what I don't get .... I think many people say they won't meet attached but actually do. Personally, I don't have a problem with meeting attached, but I only meet women. | |||
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"Depends how I feel, but attached guys are less likely to be able to meet when I'm free. Also I'm not a fan of being the bad guy when the wife inevitably finds out." I think he's saying they have a partner on Fab who has given permission for him to meet alone. | |||
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"Depends how I feel, but attached guys are less likely to be able to meet when I'm free. Also I'm not a fan of being the bad guy when the wife inevitably finds out. I think he's saying they have a partner on Fab who has given permission for him to meet alone. " Or who say she's given permission | |||
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"Given permission my ass, I always take this with the pinch of salt it deserves" Well if their partner is also on Fab surely you could just ask them ? | |||
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"Plenty do. Plenty don't. Find those that do." Exactly | |||
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"Given permission my ass, I always take this with the pinch of salt it deserves" Same as I do with the 'single women' who 'cannot accommodate' who usually turn out to be married and playing anyway too. And 'NSA'? Don't make me laugh lol | |||
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"All this is why "swinging" used to be "wife swapping" everyone knew everyone was married then.." | |||
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"Surely it's just simple logistics . An attached guy with permission is up against loads of guys who aren't attached and don't need permission . Why would the single woman want to mess about with phone calls to his partner to be sure what he says is true ? It's so much easier to not have the hassle isn't it ? " | |||
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"Surely it's just simple logistics . An attached guy with permission is up against loads of guys who aren't attached and don't need permission . Why would the single woman want to mess about with phone calls to his partner to be sure what he says is true ? It's so much easier to not have the hassle isn't it ? " You're assuming that the single guy is actually single. You're also assuming that the married guy who says he has permission, doesn't. Strange assumptions to make based on the same level of trust, ie you're trusting what they told you on one hand and not trusting what they told you on the other. Experience of ours and others is that most (that's most, not some) single guys aren't actually single. | |||
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"Surely it's just simple logistics . An attached guy with permission is up against loads of guys who aren't attached and don't need permission . Why would the single woman want to mess about with phone calls to his partner to be sure what he says is true ? It's so much easier to not have the hassle isn't it ? You're assuming that the single guy is actually single. You're also assuming that the married guy who says he has permission, doesn't. Strange assumptions to make based on the same level of trust, ie you're trusting what they told you on one hand and not trusting what they told you on the other. Experience of ours and others is that most (that's most, not some) single guys aren't actually single." Ah but even if the 'single man' isn't single in theory he's already given himself the permission to play. In my experience on here I receive messages from the male half of couples, when pressed further it's usually evident they haven't got permission...... | |||
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"Surely it's just simple logistics . An attached guy with permission is up against loads of guys who aren't attached and don't need permission . Why would the single woman want to mess about with phone calls to his partner to be sure what he says is true ? It's so much easier to not have the hassle isn't it ? You're assuming that the single guy is actually single. You're also assuming that the married guy who says he has permission, doesn't. Strange assumptions to make based on the same level of trust, ie you're trusting what they told you on one hand and not trusting what they told you on the other. Experience of ours and others is that most (that's most, not some) single guys aren't actually single. Ah but even if the 'single man' isn't single in theory he's already given himself the permission to play. In my experience on here I receive messages from the male half of couples, when pressed further it's usually evident they haven't got permission......" Apparently people lie in an effort to get laid. Who knew? | |||
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"Surely it's just simple logistics . An attached guy with permission is up against loads of guys who aren't attached and don't need permission . Why would the single woman want to mess about with phone calls to his partner to be sure what he says is true ? It's so much easier to not have the hassle isn't it ? You're assuming that the single guy is actually single. You're also assuming that the married guy who says he has permission, doesn't. Strange assumptions to make based on the same level of trust, ie you're trusting what they told you on one hand and not trusting what they told you on the other. Experience of ours and others is that most (that's most, not some) single guys aren't actually single. Ah but even if the 'single man' isn't single in theory he's already given himself the permission to play. In my experience on here I receive messages from the male half of couples, when pressed further it's usually evident they haven't got permission......" M gets this on hers and on ours too! Several "thanks for the view/wink - male here only as wife/gf/partner/FB away in xxx at the mo...." | |||
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"Surely it's just simple logistics . An attached guy with permission is up against loads of guys who aren't attached and don't need permission . Why would the single woman want to mess about with phone calls to his partner to be sure what he says is true ? It's so much easier to not have the hassle isn't it ? You're assuming that the single guy is actually single. You're also assuming that the married guy who says he has permission, doesn't. Strange assumptions to make based on the same level of trust, ie you're trusting what they told you on one hand and not trusting what they told you on the other. Experience of ours and others is that most (that's most, not some) single guys aren't actually single. Ah but even if the 'single man' isn't single in theory he's already given himself the permission to play. In my experience on here I receive messages from the male half of couples, when pressed further it's usually evident they haven't got permission...... Apparently people lie in an effort to get laid. Who knew? " Exactly I'm not saying they don't but what I am saying is I dont want the wronged half on here messaging me! | |||
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"Surely it's just simple logistics . An attached guy with permission is up against loads of guys who aren't attached and don't need permission . Why would the single woman want to mess about with phone calls to his partner to be sure what he says is true ? It's so much easier to not have the hassle isn't it ? You're assuming that the single guy is actually single. You're also assuming that the married guy who says he has permission, doesn't. Strange assumptions to make based on the same level of trust, ie you're trusting what they told you on one hand and not trusting what they told you on the other. Experience of ours and others is that most (that's most, not some) single guys aren't actually single. Ah but even if the 'single man' isn't single in theory he's already given himself the permission to play. In my experience on here I receive messages from the male half of couples, when pressed further it's usually evident they haven't got permission...... M gets this on hers and on ours too! Several "thanks for the view/wink - male here only as wife/gf/partner/FB away in xxx at the mo...."" Lmao! I get that message from 'couples' too! | |||
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"Why you wont meet with attached men, even if there on fab as a couple and have partners permission to play alone. " Assuming that I am asked too: I just don't meet through the internet. If you had worded your question a bit broader, and less closed, then perhaps I could have answered that if I bump in to a married guy in a club I couldn't care less. Swinging is ALWAYS No Strings Attached, people's lives outside clubs are of no interest to me whatsoever. | |||
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"I've been told "yeah I have permission to play". So can I speak to your wife then to confirm that? "No, she wouldn't want to do that. She is ok with me meeting other people but she wouldn't want to have a conversation with the other woman." Yeah. Right. Ok then." This | |||
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"I've been told "yeah I have permission to play". So can I speak to your wife then to confirm that? "No, she wouldn't want to do that. She is ok with me meeting other people but she wouldn't want to have a conversation with the other woman." Yeah. Right. Ok then. This " Even when, like the OP stated, the other half is on Fab? | |||
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"I've been told "yeah I have permission to play". So can I speak to your wife then to confirm that? "No, she wouldn't want to do that. She is ok with me meeting other people but she wouldn't want to have a conversation with the other woman." Yeah. Right. Ok then. This Even when, like the OP stated, the other half is on Fab?" Yes... And also because I'm looking for one regular... I would rather he not be attached to another lol. | |||
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"Depends how I feel, but attached guys are less likely to be able to meet when I'm free. Also I'm not a fan of being the bad guy when the wife inevitably finds out." Agree with this x | |||
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"Surely it's just simple logistics . An attached guy with permission is up against loads of guys who aren't attached and don't need permission . Why would the single woman want to mess about with phone calls to his partner to be sure what he says is true ? It's so much easier to not have the hassle isn't it ? " | |||
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"I've been told "yeah I have permission to play". So can I speak to your wife then to confirm that? "No, she wouldn't want to do that. She is ok with me meeting other people but she wouldn't want to have a conversation with the other woman." Yeah. Right. Ok then. This Even when, like the OP stated, the other half is on Fab? Yes... And also because I'm looking for one regular... I would rather he not be attached to another lol." You need "fabboyfriends". | |||
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"Why you wont meet with attached men, even if there on fab as a couple and have partners permission to play alone. Just curious as I dont understand it. Many single women who say they won't do anyway. My OH and I both have single profiles and he's clear on his that he is attached .... a number of women who explicitly state they won't meet attached are trying to meet him. That's what I don't get .... I think many people say they won't meet attached but actually do. Personally, I don't have a problem with meeting attached, but I only meet women." Yep. People also state they won't meet smokers yet they do. They won't meet anyone under/over a certain age, but do. Always use a condom, but don't. Conclusion: People lie/change their minds/are in a permanent state of flux. | |||
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"Given permission my ass, I always take this with the pinch of salt it deserves Same as I do with the 'single women' who 'cannot accommodate' who usually turn out to be married and playing anyway too. And 'NSA'? Don't make me laugh lol" I'm a widow but have extended family live with me hence I rarely can accom so we aint all married lol | |||
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"Some single women are not swingers, try getting couples then swap.. should be easier, and that is what fab swinging is, no? " Proper definition of swinging is promiscuous sex, but yeah most people define it as wife swapping for some reason. | |||
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"Some single women are not swingers, try getting couples then swap.. should be easier, and that is what fab swinging is, no? Proper definition of swinging is promiscuous sex, but yeah most people define it as wife swapping for some reason." Good old wiki, Swinging, also known as wife swapping or partner swapping, is a non-monogamous behavior in which both singles and partners in a committed relationship engage in sexual activities with others as a recreational or social activity.[1] | |||
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"Given permission my ass, I always take this with the pinch of salt it deserves Same as I do with the 'single women' who 'cannot accommodate' who usually turn out to be married and playing anyway too. And 'NSA'? Don't make me laugh lol I'm a widow but have extended family live with me hence I rarely can accom so we aint all married lol" I did say 'usually turn out to be married' | |||
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"Some single women are not swingers, try getting couples then swap.. should be easier, and that is what fab swinging is, no? Proper definition of swinging is promiscuous sex, but yeah most people define it as wife swapping for some reason. Good old wiki, Swinging, also known as wife swapping or partner swapping, is a non-monogamous behavior in which both singles and partners in a committed relationship engage in sexual activities with others as a recreational or social activity.[1] " Swinging sixties wasn't wife swapping though. It was 'free love'... | |||
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"Some single women are not swingers, try getting couples then swap.. should be easier, and that is what fab swinging is, no? Proper definition of swinging is promiscuous sex, but yeah most people define it as wife swapping for some reason. Good old wiki, Swinging, also known as wife swapping or partner swapping, is a non-monogamous behavior in which both singles and partners in a committed relationship engage in sexual activities with others as a recreational or social activity.[1] " Wiki is written by anyone who wants to write it though. Primary schools use it to teach kids how unreliable some online sources of information are .... they get the kids to put their own entries in, or add to established ones. | |||
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"Several reasons:- 1) why would I bother checking that he has permission to play, when there are so many single solo males to choose from 2) I don't want someone who is always clock-watching, as he is expected home at a certain time 3) I want someone who is more likely to be available at the times I am available 4) I like the idea of extending the meet if it's going well, eg. going out for a meal etc 5) I like the idea that it might not be one-off NSA sex - that it might turn into something more regular, if both parties are suited. 6) Even if it's a one-off, I want a man who can make me feel that I am the most important woman in his life... just for an hour or two. By definition, men with partners can't do this." well answered that woman. plus if shes on fab you really are the 'accessory' and you know it.usually too many rules imposed on every level.feeling bottom of the 'pile', isnt fun. .even the marrieds are getting something they dont have. and what diamondsmiles says: im being used for their open relationship freedom fantasies and im not that willing to be the discussion topic. plus im bi, meeting couples gives me the best of both.. this isn't all about 'them' right? | |||
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"I don't meet 'attached' because I have a conscience and would hate for it to be done to me. That's not to say I dont understand why some guys do it. However I would meet if the guy had his partners permission. " ....Nothing to do with the OP.... | |||
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"My OH has more single meets than I do, but I don't need to hear about the details .... I know enough to know he wants to come home to me and this single meets confirm it even more." this is also why....this kind of attitude..from OH's. the assertive, im in a perfect relationship statement.. sorry,if that seems mean and its not meant to be personal... but thats a perfect example | |||
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"Probably because they don't want to and it's their choice! Simple really" This, when you get down to it, is the only reason that matters. Just choice OP, nothing personal. | |||
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"My OH has more single meets than I do, but I don't need to hear about the details .... I know enough to know he wants to come home to me and this single meets confirm it even more. this is also why....this kind of attitude..from OH's. the assertive, im in a perfect relationship statement.. sorry,if that seems mean and its not meant to be personal... but thats a perfect example " Well its a fact though, if you are in a relationship and living with someone, then the OH will come home. There is no contest, despite some single women wanting it to be .... my OH meets men though, not women. | |||
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"My OH has more single meets than I do, but I don't need to hear about the details .... I know enough to know he wants to come home to me and this single meets confirm it even more. this is also why....this kind of attitude..from OH's. the assertive, im in a perfect relationship statement.. sorry,if that seems mean and its not meant to be personal... but thats a perfect example Well its a fact though, if you are in a relationship and living with someone, then the OH will come home. There is no contest, despite some single women wanting it to be .... my OH meets men though, not women." just you mentioning it to be a no contest, makes it obvious why some dont meet with them..im not interested in being part of a 'no contest', contest..you mentioned it..i didnt...xx | |||
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"My OH has more single meets than I do, but I don't need to hear about the details .... I know enough to know he wants to come home to me and this single meets confirm it even more. this is also why....this kind of attitude..from OH's. the assertive, im in a perfect relationship statement.. sorry,if that seems mean and its not meant to be personal... but thats a perfect example Well its a fact though, if you are in a relationship and living with someone, then the OH will come home. There is no contest, despite some single women wanting it to be .... my OH meets men though, not women. just you mentioning it to be a no contest, makes it obvious why some dont meet with them..im not interested in being part of a 'no contest', contest..you mentioned it..i didnt...xx" my cousin specifically went for attached guys as competition to their wives, i get that some women are like that. might be why i actively don't like attached guys coz it was sad to see her mentality. | |||
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"I hate men who say 'my wife doesn't understand me' or 'my wife is boring in bed' Well, you married her, numbchuck, maybe try talking to her? It takes two to tango and if you are shit in bed with her, chances are you'll be shit with me. Also, can do without be a therapy service, and any fallout from wife. Been there, done that - SO not worth it. " Couldn't have put it better. I'm actually sick and tired of the attached and married men on here. I'd go as far to say they actually disgust me. | |||
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"My OH has more single meets than I do, but I don't need to hear about the details .... I know enough to know he wants to come home to me and this single meets confirm it even more." Sorry but you sound like a doormat. | |||
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"My OH has more single meets than I do, but I don't need to hear about the details .... I know enough to know he wants to come home to me and this single meets confirm it even more. Sorry but you sound like a doormat. " Bit harsh! If it works for them, then good luck to them! | |||
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"My OH has more single meets than I do, but I don't need to hear about the details .... I know enough to know he wants to come home to me and this single meets confirm it even more. Sorry but you sound like a doormat. Bit harsh! If it works for them, then good luck to them!" Really. | |||
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"My wife and I both have single profiles on here as well as a couples one. We're both clear on our profiles we're married, and have both had a few meets. Not surprisingly she gets a lot more attention though " Me and my wife have a couples profile and single profiles, as with you guys my wife gets alot more attention. Us single attached guys are like the cockroaches of fab lol | |||
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"Surely it's just simple logistics . An attached guy with permission is up against loads of guys who aren't attached and don't need permission . Why would the single woman want to mess about with phone calls to his partner to be sure what he says is true ? It's so much easier to not have the hassle isn't it ? You're assuming that the single guy is actually single. You're also assuming that the married guy who says he has permission, doesn't. Strange assumptions to make based on the same level of trust, ie you're trusting what they told you on one hand and not trusting what they told you on the other. Experience of ours and others is that most (that's most, not some) single guys aren't actually single." | |||
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"Several reasons:- 1) why would I bother checking that he has permission to play, when there are so many single solo males to choose from 2) I don't want someone who is always clock-watching, as he is expected home at a certain time 3) I want someone who is more likely to be available at the times I am available 4) I like the idea of extending the meet if it's going well, eg. going out for a meal etc 5) I like the idea that it might not be one-off NSA sex - that it might turn into something more regular, if both parties are suited. 6) Even if it's a one-off, I want a man who can make me feel that I am the most important woman in his life... just for an hour or two. By definition, men with partners can't do this." Exactly this! | |||
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"We have no issue with meeting a man in an open marriage." Shame you're so far away | |||
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"Several reasons:- 1) why would I bother checking that he has permission to play, when there are so many single solo males to choose from 2) I don't want someone who is always clock-watching, as he is expected home at a certain time 3) I want someone who is more likely to be available at the times I am available 4) I like the idea of extending the meet if it's going well, eg. going out for a meal etc 5) I like the idea that it might not be one-off NSA sex - that it might turn into something more regular, if both parties are suited. 6) Even if it's a one-off, I want a man who can make me feel that I am the most important woman in his life... just for an hour or two. By definition, men with partners can't do this." Was just reading through this thread to reply and this post is perfect for what I would want to say. | |||
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"Several reasons:- 1) why would I bother checking that he has permission to play, when there are so many single solo males to choose from 2) I don't want someone who is always clock-watching, as he is expected home at a certain time 3) I want someone who is more likely to be available at the times I am available 4) I like the idea of extending the meet if it's going well, eg. going out for a meal etc 5) I like the idea that it might not be one-off NSA sex - that it might turn into something more regular, if both parties are suited. 6) Even if it's a one-off, I want a man who can make me feel that I am the most important woman in his life... just for an hour or two. By definition, men with partners can't do this. Was just reading through this thread to reply and this post is perfect for what I would want to say. " | |||
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"Several reasons:- 1) why would I bother checking that he has permission to play, when there are so many single solo males to choose from 2) I don't want someone who is always clock-watching, as he is expected home at a certain time 3) I want someone who is more likely to be available at the times I am available 4) I like the idea of extending the meet if it's going well, eg. going out for a meal etc 5) I like the idea that it might not be one-off NSA sex - that it might turn into something more regular, if both parties are suited. 6) Even if it's a one-off, I want a man who can make me feel that I am the most important woman in his life... just for an hour or two. By definition, men with partners can't do this. Was just reading through this thread to reply and this post is perfect for what I would want to say. " | |||
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"Well there was some interesting answers there. Taken on board. I need a single profile and lie cause honesty doesnt get meets. Lol Only kidding. Cheers for the sensible commenters and as usaul Ignore the ignorant comments. " Keep at it - there are those out there who will meet married guys with permission | |||
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"Several reasons:- 1) why would I bother checking that he has permission to play, when there are so many single solo males to choose from 2) I don't want someone who is always clock-watching, as he is expected home at a certain time 3) I want someone who is more likely to be available at the times I am available 4) I like the idea of extending the meet if it's going well, eg. going out for a meal etc 5) I like the idea that it might not be one-off NSA sex - that it might turn into something more regular, if both parties are suited. 6) Even if it's a one-off, I want a man who can make me feel that I am the most important woman in his life... just for an hour or two. By definition, men with partners can't do this." I am married and... 1. Single guys lie about being attached. At least the married ones are telling the truth, so easy to lie about it. My wife gave me permission to lie about it, I choose not to. 2. I can play whenever I want, I don't need to be home, I can play all night, I can play all weekend if I want, she'll support that. 3. See above. I don't need to organise babysitters, I'm married to the best one. 4. Extending also fine, more limited by work than I am by my wife. 5. I prefer regular too. 6. Heart and soul into the person we're with, neither of us see the point otherwise. It's along the basis of the old saying of "wherever you are, be there". | |||
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"Several reasons:- 1) why would I bother checking that he has permission to play, when there are so many single solo males to choose from 2) I don't want someone who is always clock-watching, as he is expected home at a certain time 3) I want someone who is more likely to be available at the times I am available 4) I like the idea of extending the meet if it's going well, eg. going out for a meal etc 5) I like the idea that it might not be one-off NSA sex - that it might turn into something more regular, if both parties are suited. 6) Even if it's a one-off, I want a man who can make me feel that I am the most important woman in his life... just for an hour or two. By definition, men with partners can't do this." Flirty1, I like your view and approach. | |||
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