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"wondering what everytone thinks about this and please be honest i have no issue with a social meet as a first meet and totally respect and undestand the reasons behind it. what stops me is having to travel miles for a coffee. time is precious. local socials are great but sometimes its just not practical which is a shame when the lady concrned is a goodun" Decide whether the lady is worth the time and effort. If not, leave her alone. | |||
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"if you were both after regular meets a social would probably be worth the distance i reckon." | |||
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"Social first - no movement on this. A club is different because you know face to face if there's an attraction but that quite often doesn't happen outside. As Lady Lick said - you have an idea but in person you just might not click. Mx" And sometimes you click so well the ladies decide to scandalised the poor unsuspecting bar staff | |||
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"This guy is just a time waster anyway " The op? | |||
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"I'm all for a social first, especially if meeting a single female, they have to do a nutter reccy before being somewhere in a one to one situation with a guy they don't know. But there are some serial socialites out there, "meet for a coffee " then "meet for lunch " then another coffee. Not long before you start to feel like a meal ticket! " That's possibly the first time I've EVER seen a single male post about the ladies safety being important!! Have you any idea the stick you get if you mention a safety net to a single or couple? | |||
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"Social first - no movement on this. A club is different because you know face to face if there's an attraction but that quite often doesn't happen outside. As Lady Lick said - you have an idea but in person you just might not click. Mx And sometimes you click so well the ladies decide to scandalised the poor unsuspecting bar staff " Shhhhh - they'll all want a go..... | |||
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"This guy is just a time waster anyway The op?" Glad you asked that Look forward to the answer | |||
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"Never done a social and never will . Complete and utter waste of time " so you keep reiterating but a lot of us are not into the sucknfcuk meet/don't do clubs or house parties... different horses for different courses | |||
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"Never done a social and never will . Complete and utter waste of time so you keep reiterating but a lot of us are not into the sucknfcuk meet/don't do clubs or house parties... different horses for different courses " We agree - not everyone "enjoys" your style of play. If you're happy thats cool just stop ramming it down others throats when they say prefer to socialise first. | |||
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"Never done a social and never will . Complete and utter waste of time so you keep reiterating but a lot of us are not into the sucknfcuk meet/don't do clubs or house parties... different horses for different courses " They were just saying | |||
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"Never done a social and never will . Complete and utter waste of time so you keep reiterating but a lot of us are not into the sucknfcuk meet/don't do clubs or house parties... different horses for different courses " Ah .... so the reiteration of those who DO like a social is acceptable then .... The op asked for an honest answer and we gave our honest answer . Or perhaps you would prefer it if we didn't answer at all ? | |||
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"Never done a social and never will . Complete and utter waste of time so you keep reiterating but a lot of us are not into the sucknfcuk meet/don't do clubs or house parties... different horses for different courses We agree - not everyone "enjoys" your style of play. If you're happy thats cool just stop ramming it down others throats when they say prefer to socialise first. " You clearly miss the point too . We are just as entitled as anyone else to state our choice as to how we play . Who are you to tell us to stop ramming it down anyone's throat ? Rude | |||
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"I'm all for a social first, especially if meeting a single female, they have to do a nutter reccy before being somewhere in a one to one situation with a guy they don't know. But there are some serial socialites out there, "meet for a coffee " then "meet for lunch " then another coffee. Not long before you start to feel like a meal ticket! That's possibly the first time I've EVER seen a single male post about the ladies safety being important!! Have you any idea the stick you get if you mention a safety net to a single or couple?" I'm sure all the wrong sort of people give you stick, but anyone decent must surely walk in your La Bouton's for a minute and realise that a single female going to a complete stranger in an out of sight, intimate environment, is going to want to be cautious? | |||
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"Rude? No - just factual after reading a large number of your posts on any thread that it gets brought up on." Is it any less factual than the same posters who say they insist on a social everytime it's brought up ? I think not | |||
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"I'm all for a social first, especially if meeting a single female, they have to do a nutter reccy before being somewhere in a one to one situation with a guy they don't know. But there are some serial socialites out there, "meet for a coffee " then "meet for lunch " then another coffee. Not long before you start to feel like a meal ticket! That's possibly the first time I've EVER seen a single male post about the ladies safety being important!! Have you any idea the stick you get if you mention a safety net to a single or couple? I'm sure all the wrong sort of people give you stick, but anyone decent must surely walk in your La Bouton's for a minute and realise that a single female going to a complete stranger in an out of sight, intimate environment, is going to want to be cautious? " Sadly not - couples here have been some of the worst for it. "We're meeting YOU" "We expect you to come to our house - we don't meet socially" There's been more but those two are common replies. | |||
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"I always do a social first just a shame today's didn't show " That's poo | |||
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"Hate people that 'need' a social before meeting. When searching on my couples profile for meets it's other couples that want socials rather than anyone else. If you come to our hotel and don't wanna fuck us just leave. Instead of wasting time on a drink and a chat. I don't wanna chit chat. I don't want friends I want sex. " | |||
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"Hate people that 'need' a social before meeting. When searching on my couples profile for meets it's other couples that want socials rather than anyone else. If you come to our hotel and don't wanna fuck us just leave. Instead of wasting time on a drink and a chat. I don't wanna chit chat. I don't want friends I want sex. " Please don't think we're knocking you or your choice of how you like to play. But could we ask, if you have fucked someone, then quickly afterwards after chatting that you can't really can't stand them or their personality, does it bother you that you've just let them fuck you? Also how do you establish boundaries or trust or even a rapport without some interaction first? Again, no critique, just genuinely interested | |||
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"I always do a social first just a shame today's didn't show That's poo " Was out n about doing my shopping anyhow so all's good. X | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported" she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her | |||
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"With a young family, time is precious, and arranging an hour or two free time for a social, rather than a few hours for a play meet is far easier to arrange, i.e. getting a sitter and meeting at a local bar etc. It can be a way to fit in a face to face meet, chat, see that we click and establish likes, dislikes and boundaries between us, so next time we meet getting down to playing is quicker and more relaxed." This Even with L being semi-retired, families, work, etc all need to be sorted long before playtime comes about. So for us a social means that when you do orange a proper time out with no restrictions - the time isn't wasted if the chemistry isn't there. | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her " you are priceless i really do not understand why you are defending it but you have your easons wierd though please feel free to join a different forum | |||
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"Never done a social and never will . Complete and utter waste of time so you keep reiterating but a lot of us are not into the sucknfcuk meet/don't do clubs or house parties... different horses for different courses We agree - not everyone "enjoys" your style of play. If you're happy thats cool just stop ramming it down others throats when they say prefer to socialise first. You clearly miss the point too . We are just as entitled as anyone else to state our choice as to how we play . Who are you to tell us to stop ramming it down anyone's throat ? Rude " | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her you are priceless i really do not understand why you are defending it but you have your easons wierd though please feel free to join a different forum" have you not realised by now that this is a public forum | |||
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"We wouldn't meet for a coffee. We always make an evening of it and have a few drinks. That makes a social more worthwhile. Also gives a chance for some flirtation to build up the excitement for next time. And if it is a good evening, a social can easily turn into more. But each individual has to decide for themselves how far they are willing to travel at the risk that there may be no chemistry. If you have really to know someone well on line or via text first, before agreeing to meet, then that reduces the chance of a bad match." Would you still want a social that involved an evening of drinking etc with someone who doesn't drink alcohol? Just wondered if that would make a difference to who you choose to meet ? | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her " So it would be ok for someone to call you a timewaster on a thread and not back it up?! | |||
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"We wouldn't meet for a coffee. We always make an evening of it and have a few drinks. That makes a social more worthwhile. Also gives a chance for some flirtation to build up the excitement for next time. And if it is a good evening, a social can easily turn into more. But each individual has to decide for themselves how far they are willing to travel at the risk that there may be no chemistry. If you have really to know someone well on line or via text first, before agreeing to meet, then that reduces the chance of a bad match. Would you still want a social that involved an evening of drinking etc with someone who doesn't drink alcohol? Just wondered if that would make a difference to who you choose to meet ?" No not at all. All our private meets from Fab have always been in a pub or a bar, and we always make an evening or afternoon of it. They have always proceeded to some fun at some point, sometimes that night and sometimes later. But I certainly don't have a view as to whether they have a beer or a Coke. | |||
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"We wouldn't meet for a coffee. We always make an evening of it and have a few drinks. That makes a social more worthwhile. Also gives a chance for some flirtation to build up the excitement for next time. And if it is a good evening, a social can easily turn into more. But each individual has to decide for themselves how far they are willing to travel at the risk that there may be no chemistry. If you have really to know someone well on line or via text first, before agreeing to meet, then that reduces the chance of a bad match. Would you still want a social that involved an evening of drinking etc with someone who doesn't drink alcohol? Just wondered if that would make a difference to who you choose to meet ? No not at all. All our private meets from Fab have always been in a pub or a bar, and we always make an evening or afternoon of it. They have always proceeded to some fun at some point, sometimes that night and sometimes later. But I certainly don't have a view as to whether they have a beer or a Coke." Cool | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her So it would be ok for someone to call you a timewaster on a thread and not back it up?! " I feel it's a little bit unfair to publically describe someone as a time waster, on a thread that wasn't discussing time wasting. The OP didn't ask for an opinion on that matter. It seems a bit unprovoked, and if she had a good reason for a accusing him of that, maybe perhaps explain that to him privately. Just my view. | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her So it would be ok for someone to call you a timewaster on a thread and not back it up?! I feel it's a little bit unfair to publically describe someone as a time waster, on a thread that wasn't discussing time wasting. The OP didn't ask for an opinion on that matter. It seems a bit unprovoked, and if she had a good reason for a accusing him of that, maybe perhaps explain that to him privately. Just my view." | |||
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"This guy is just a time waster anyway " Not sure what your comment has to do with the subject being discussed....... | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her So it would be ok for someone to call you a timewaster on a thread and not back it up?! " Thank you | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her you are priceless i really do not understand why you are defending it but you have your easons wierd though please feel free to join a different forum have you not realised by now that this is a public forum " Go away | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her " It's hardly an opinion, more a direct accusation, which has been failed to be backed up. Even more so an accusation completely out of context in a public forum, on a thread not even related.... | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her It's hardly an opinion, more a direct accusation, which has been failed to be backed up. Even more so an accusation completely out of context in a public forum, on a thread not even related...." | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her It's hardly an opinion, more a direct accusation, which has been failed to be backed up. Even more so an accusation completely out of context in a public forum, on a thread not even related...." Thank you x | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her It's hardly an opinion, more a direct accusation, which has been failed to be backed up. Even more so an accusation completely out of context in a public forum, on a thread not even related...." Many thanks | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her So it would be ok for someone to call you a timewaster on a thread and not back it up?! " I prefer that to being called mental..what about you? | |||
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"wondering what everytone thinks about this and please be honest i have no issue with a social meet as a first meet and totally respect and undestand the reasons behind it. what stops me is having to travel miles for a coffee. time is precious. local socials are great but sometimes its just not practical which is a shame when the lady concrned is a goodun" Have you tried asking them to meet half way that seems fair to me | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her It's hardly an opinion, more a direct accusation, which has been failed to be backed up. Even more so an accusation completely out of context in a public forum, on a thread not even related...." It's refreshing to see some good well adjusted people commenting on this thread. Shame we don't see more of your posts on the forums These are the sort of people I would enjoy socials with. | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her So it would be ok for someone to call you a timewaster on a thread and not back it up?! I prefer that to being called mental..what about you? " No I'd prefer to be called mental rather than a timewaster as that's probably more apt to be honest | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her It's hardly an opinion, more a direct accusation, which has been failed to be backed up. Even more so an accusation completely out of context in a public forum, on a thread not even related.... " getting personal about someone just because they made a random comment is rather OTT IMO, and slightly childish... but you are correct, it is a public forum and people are free to post... | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her So it would be ok for someone to call you a timewaster on a thread and not back it up?! I prefer that to being called mental..what about you? " Maybe mental was the wrong word Whatever the word is Rest assured you can have it too | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her It's hardly an opinion, more a direct accusation, which has been failed to be backed up. Even more so an accusation completely out of context in a public forum, on a thread not even related.... getting personal about someone just because they made a random comment is rather OTT IMO, and slightly childish... but you are correct, it is a public forum and people are free to post..." Have you not realised you are swimming against the tide here Please leave us to it It's a good discussion You are ruining it | |||
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" But there are some serial socialites out there, "meet for a coffee " then "meet for lunch " then another coffee. Not long before you start to feel like a meal ticket! " That's dating, not swinging. | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her So it would be ok for someone to call you a timewaster on a thread and not back it up?! I feel it's a little bit unfair to publically describe someone as a time waster, on a thread that wasn't discussing time wasting. The OP didn't ask for an opinion on that matter. It seems a bit unprovoked, and if she had a good reason for a accusing him of that, maybe perhaps explain that to him privately. Just my view. " | |||
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"EVERY meet I ever have starts off as a social. I know we have chatted online and maybe the phone, but there's that last "connection" required before I would play (don't ask what the connection is, can't define). I have cooked meals in ladies houses and never played. Met ladies at coffee shops and gone on picnics... sounds weird (to some maybe) I just enjoy the company of women, meeting someone new. If we play... bonus Expectations and I am not part of the "fuck and go" groups... not that there is anything wrong with that either...horses for courses " Me too fella | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her It's hardly an opinion, more a direct accusation, which has been failed to be backed up. Even more so an accusation completely out of context in a public forum, on a thread not even related.... getting personal about someone just because they made a random comment is rather OTT IMO, and slightly childish... but you are correct, it is a public forum and people are free to post..." It amazes me just how people make and accept such things as personal attacks, derogatory comments, judgementalism, being obnoxious, rude, accusatory remarks, cyber bullying, discrimination, etc all under the guise of "just sharing an opinion" and "it's a public forum". When really it just comes down to good honest decent human interaction and polite social etiquette.... | |||
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"i always have a social at the womans place of choosing, sometimes if its their house, we have ended up playing sometimes not, its always good to chat first on cam or phone, that way you know its not a man pretending to be a woman....or vice versa... " Pretty much the best way... whatever makes the lady feel safe and happy... even if I have to sleep in the car.... eek! | |||
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"wondering what everytone thinks about this and please be honest i have no issue with a social meet as a first meet and totally respect and undestand the reasons behind it. what stops me is having to travel miles for a coffee. time is precious. local socials are great but sometimes its just not practical which is a shame when the lady concrned is a goodun" We refuse meets with quite a few people because we insist on a social first (that's down to me, Mrs N) and if they're too far away we don't feel its fair on them. Loads say they really don't mind a two hour drive for a drink but I feel it shifts the dynamic slightly. | |||
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"wondering what everytone thinks about this and please be honest i have no issue with a social meet as a first meet and totally respect and undestand the reasons behind it. what stops me is having to travel miles for a coffee. time is precious. local socials are great but sometimes its just not practical which is a shame when the lady concrned is a goodun We refuse meets with quite a few people because we insist on a social first (that's down to me, Mrs N) and if they're too far away we don't feel its fair on them. Loads say they really don't mind a two hour drive for a drink but I feel it shifts the dynamic slightly." Do agree, however for us, we usually arrange a social somewhere halfway between us and them, as for us it's easier to arrange a couple of hours for a social meet than a whole night for a play meet, and if the Sparks don't fly, then a whole night of baby sitting services (usually one of our parents lol) isn't wasted, but can be used for those we have met for a full night, already knowing fro a social meet that we all click and the Sparks are flying. Must admit, going to meet someone for a play meet, having met socially and knowing there is a mutual attraction, and knowing you get on well is far less nerve wracking, and in our opinion usually sets the scene for a much more relaxed, easier going, and ultimately far enjoyable evening | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her It's hardly an opinion, more a direct accusation, which has been failed to be backed up. Even more so an accusation completely out of context in a public forum, on a thread not even related.... Many thanks" Unfortunately, the fact that her comment was out of line doesn't mean you were right to claim she's mentally ill. That is equally out of line. | |||
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"All the socials ive had we allways say we will meet for fun but not 1 as ever happened " There are lots of people who say the same thing . Not because there wasn't a connection , but because the social chat etc ... dampens the initial arousal . We've met lots of couples who used to have the social first philosophy , but later changed to allowing play if all parties agree . | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her It's hardly an opinion, more a direct accusation, which has been failed to be backed up. Even more so an accusation completely out of context in a public forum, on a thread not even related.... getting personal about someone just because they made a random comment is rather OTT IMO, and slightly childish... but you are correct, it is a public forum and people are free to post... It amazes me just how people make and accept such things as personal attacks, derogatory comments, judgementalism, being obnoxious, rude, accusatory remarks, cyber bullying, discrimination, etc all under the guise of "just sharing an opinion" and "it's a public forum". When really it just comes down to good honest decent human interaction and polite social etiquette...." Yes I agree with this last post. But this discussion (which unfortunately has moved from the subject) does raise the question as to whether we all have the right to post whatever we like about somebody on a public forum. The forum rules state 'don't badmouth other members or name and shame'. So when does expressing an opinion cease to be that, and become 'badmouthing' sometimes known as slander? Is there a difference between expressing something as a matter of opinion, or a matter of fact? Saying the OP was a time waster, came across to me as a fact not opinion, so if this fact untrue, then surely that come under the category of 'badmouthing', which is against forum rules. | |||
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"All the socials ive had we allways say we will meet for fun but not 1 as ever happened There are lots of people who say the same thing . Not because there wasn't a connection , but because the social chat etc ... dampens the initial arousal . We've met lots of couples who used to have the social first philosophy , but later changed to allowing play if all parties agree ." We're very much as you described, initially we were always "just a social first", but have adapted that to "a social with a view to play if everyone is happy to" kind of view. Maybe that kind of scenario shouldn't be called a social meet, because of the connotations? But it's not a play meet either? What could it be called instead? Lol | |||
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"Sorry What was the subject matter for this discussion?? " The subject was whether to travel for a social. But someone described you as a timewaster, so there was then a discussion about whether this was ok or not. | |||
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"And is it ok to call me a time waster by someone I don't know ?" I'm completely on your side! | |||
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"wondering what everytone thinks about this and please be honest i have no issue with a social meet as a first meet and totally respect and undestand the reasons behind it. what stops me is having to travel miles for a coffee. time is precious. local socials are great but sometimes its just not practical which is a shame when the lady concrned is a goodun" My profile says 'social only first', but it shouldn't be necessary to put this on my profile. EVERY SINGLE MEETING should come with no expectations of sex. This includes meeting with people who I have met before (if I'm not feeling it at the time, I won't have sex with someone, regardless of what he hopes for). And this is why I won't have even a social with a man who want to travel 'too far' to meet me. There is too much pressure to play. Your comment "its just not practical which is a shame when the lady concerned is a goodun" makes me feel uncomfortable. Are you suggesting that more attractive women SHOULDN'T be allowed to refuse sex, when someone has travelled a long way to meet them? But it's OK for less attractive women to decline an offer of sex? | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her It's hardly an opinion, more a direct accusation, which has been failed to be backed up. Even more so an accusation completely out of context in a public forum, on a thread not even related.... getting personal about someone just because they made a random comment is rather OTT IMO, and slightly childish... but you are correct, it is a public forum and people are free to post... It amazes me just how people make and accept such things as personal attacks, derogatory comments, judgementalism, being obnoxious, rude, accusatory remarks, cyber bullying, discrimination, etc all under the guise of "just sharing an opinion" and "it's a public forum". When really it just comes down to good honest decent human interaction and polite social etiquette.... Yes I agree with this last post. But this discussion (which unfortunately has moved from the subject) does raise the question as to whether we all have the right to post whatever we like about somebody on a public forum. The forum rules state 'don't badmouth other members or name and shame'. So when does expressing an opinion cease to be that, and become 'badmouthing' sometimes known as slander? Is there a difference between expressing something as a matter of opinion, or a matter of fact? Saying the OP was a time waster, came across to me as a fact not opinion, so if this fact untrue, then surely that come under the category of 'badmouthing', which is against forum rules. " As in turn is saying someone has a mental issue for making the comment anyway... It's certainly a slippery slope | |||
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"wondering what everytone thinks about this and please be honest i have no issue with a social meet as a first meet and totally respect and undestand the reasons behind it. what stops me is having to travel miles for a coffee. time is precious. local socials are great but sometimes its just not practical which is a shame when the lady concrned is a goodun My profile says 'social only first', but it shouldn't be necessary to put this on my profile. EVERY SINGLE MEETING should come with no expectations of sex. This includes meeting with people who I have met before (if I'm not feeling it at the time, I won't have sex with someone, regardless of what he hopes for). And this is why I won't have even a social with a man who want to travel 'too far' to meet me. There is too much pressure to play. Your comment "its just not practical which is a shame when the lady concerned is a goodun" makes me feel uncomfortable. Are you suggesting that more attractive women SHOULDN'T be allowed to refuse sex, when someone has travelled a long way to meet them? But it's OK for less attractive women to decline an offer of sex?" Good lord Some people try so hard to wreck a discussion Ridiculous assumption | |||
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"Maybe girl tuesday has had personal experience of the op bring a time waster? .....and maybe she should of backed her statement up. ..and maybe she should of asked if anyone else had experienced the op being a time waster ...she did it all wrong bless her " Didn't you'd you'd be backing me up But thanks x | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her It's hardly an opinion, more a direct accusation, which has been failed to be backed up. Even more so an accusation completely out of context in a public forum, on a thread not even related.... getting personal about someone just because they made a random comment is rather OTT IMO, and slightly childish... but you are correct, it is a public forum and people are free to post... It amazes me just how people make and accept such things as personal attacks, derogatory comments, judgementalism, being obnoxious, rude, accusatory remarks, cyber bullying, discrimination, etc all under the guise of "just sharing an opinion" and "it's a public forum". When really it just comes down to good honest decent human interaction and polite social etiquette.... Yes I agree with this last post. But this discussion (which unfortunately has moved from the subject) does raise the question as to whether we all have the right to post whatever we like about somebody on a public forum. The forum rules state 'don't badmouth other members or name and shame'. So when does expressing an opinion cease to be that, and become 'badmouthing' sometimes known as slander? Is there a difference between expressing something as a matter of opinion, or a matter of fact? Saying the OP was a time waster, came across to me as a fact not opinion, so if this fact untrue, then surely that come under the category of 'badmouthing', which is against forum rules. As in turn is saying someone has a mental issue for making the comment anyway... It's certainly a slippery slope " If you bother to look you will see I retracted the comment. You and your mate have tried real hard to ruin this discussion But sadly you failed Now run along Go play somewhere else | |||
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"Your comment "its just not practical which is a shame when the lady concerned is a goodun" makes me feel uncomfortable. Are you suggesting that more attractive women SHOULDN'T be allowed to refuse sex, when someone has travelled a long way to meet them? But it's OK for less attractive women to decline an offer of sex? Good lord Some people try so hard to wreck a discussion Ridiculous assumption " I said.... I feel uncomfortable with what you said. You are welcome to clarify what you meant. | |||
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"Your comment "its just not practical which is a shame when the lady concerned is a goodun" makes me feel uncomfortable. Are you suggesting that more attractive women SHOULDN'T be allowed to refuse sex, when someone has travelled a long way to meet them? But it's OK for less attractive women to decline an offer of sex? Good lord Some people try so hard to wreck a discussion Ridiculous assumption I said.... I feel uncomfortable with what you said. You are welcome to clarify what you meant." All I meant is if you got on really well and you had clicked while chatting That's my definition of a goodun | |||
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"This is going swimmingly. We have travelled for just over an hour to group socials and thoroughly enjoyed ourselves but expectations are different." I really enjoy a social, it's nice to chat with liberated people, whats not to like about meeting new people; apart from nutters... but, well in every life a little rain must fall.. I am quite surprised by the expectation level that some have on this site, but that surprise is diminishing.. Sometimes the social is as far as it goes, but so what? Does that mean I wasted my time... I don't think so. | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her It's hardly an opinion, more a direct accusation, which has been failed to be backed up. Even more so an accusation completely out of context in a public forum, on a thread not even related.... getting personal about someone just because they made a random comment is rather OTT IMO, and slightly childish... but you are correct, it is a public forum and people are free to post... It amazes me just how people make and accept such things as personal attacks, derogatory comments, judgementalism, being obnoxious, rude, accusatory remarks, cyber bullying, discrimination, etc all under the guise of "just sharing an opinion" and "it's a public forum". When really it just comes down to good honest decent human interaction and polite social etiquette.... Yes I agree with this last post. But this discussion (which unfortunately has moved from the subject) does raise the question as to whether we all have the right to post whatever we like about somebody on a public forum. The forum rules state 'don't badmouth other members or name and shame'. So when does expressing an opinion cease to be that, and become 'badmouthing' sometimes known as slander? Is there a difference between expressing something as a matter of opinion, or a matter of fact? Saying the OP was a time waster, came across to me as a fact not opinion, so if this fact untrue, then surely that come under the category of 'badmouthing', which is against forum rules. As in turn is saying someone has a mental issue for making the comment anyway... It's certainly a slippery slope " Yes of course, 2 wrongs make no right. And the OP has acknowledged that he was wrong to react in that way when he felt provoked. We are all human, and it is indeed a slippery slope. | |||
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"Maybe girl tuesday has had personal experience of the op bring a time waster? .....and maybe she should of backed her statement up. ..and maybe she should of asked if anyone else had experienced the op being a time waster ...she did it all wrong bless her Didn't you'd you'd be backing me up But thanks x Oh I'm not backing you up believe me! !...just wished she'd contacted me and everyone else you'd fucked off first BEFORE she'd posted " Bless | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her It's hardly an opinion, more a direct accusation, which has been failed to be backed up. Even more so an accusation completely out of context in a public forum, on a thread not even related.... getting personal about someone just because they made a random comment is rather OTT IMO, and slightly childish... but you are correct, it is a public forum and people are free to post... It amazes me just how people make and accept such things as personal attacks, derogatory comments, judgementalism, being obnoxious, rude, accusatory remarks, cyber bullying, discrimination, etc all under the guise of "just sharing an opinion" and "it's a public forum". When really it just comes down to good honest decent human interaction and polite social etiquette.... Yes I agree with this last post. But this discussion (which unfortunately has moved from the subject) does raise the question as to whether we all have the right to post whatever we like about somebody on a public forum. The forum rules state 'don't badmouth other members or name and shame'. So when does expressing an opinion cease to be that, and become 'badmouthing' sometimes known as slander? Is there a difference between expressing something as a matter of opinion, or a matter of fact? Saying the OP was a time waster, came across to me as a fact not opinion, so if this fact untrue, then surely that come under the category of 'badmouthing', which is against forum rules. As in turn is saying someone has a mental issue for making the comment anyway... It's certainly a slippery slope " It certainly is slippery for those who don't understand English in contextual interpretation. The OP didn't say she had a mental issue, he said it "smacks" of a mental issue, that's opinion based, but linked to the evidence of the statement made by the poster he responded to. "This guy IS a time waster" is a statement of fact, linked to no evidential base (despite the OP giving ample opportunity to the accuser to verify and substantiate the statement) | |||
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"just to put the record straight dear girl tuesday i have no idea who you are or why you call me a time waster when i clearly am not why you have blocked me smacks of a mental issue that perhaps you should address before you end up in a special jacket you have been reported she had an opinion.. she aired said opinion... I'd hardly call that mental just because you disagree with her It's hardly an opinion, more a direct accusation, which has been failed to be backed up. Even more so an accusation completely out of context in a public forum, on a thread not even related.... getting personal about someone just because they made a random comment is rather OTT IMO, and slightly childish... but you are correct, it is a public forum and people are free to post... It amazes me just how people make and accept such things as personal attacks, derogatory comments, judgementalism, being obnoxious, rude, accusatory remarks, cyber bullying, discrimination, etc all under the guise of "just sharing an opinion" and "it's a public forum". When really it just comes down to good honest decent human interaction and polite social etiquette.... Yes I agree with this last post. But this discussion (which unfortunately has moved from the subject) does raise the question as to whether we all have the right to post whatever we like about somebody on a public forum. The forum rules state 'don't badmouth other members or name and shame'. So when does expressing an opinion cease to be that, and become 'badmouthing' sometimes known as slander? Is there a difference between expressing something as a matter of opinion, or a matter of fact? Saying the OP was a time waster, came across to me as a fact not opinion, so if this fact untrue, then surely that come under the category of 'badmouthing', which is against forum rules. As in turn is saying someone has a mental issue for making the comment anyway... It's certainly a slippery slope It certainly is slippery for those who don't understand English in contextual interpretation. The OP didn't say she had a mental issue, he said it "smacks" of a mental issue, that's opinion based, but linked to the evidence of the statement made by the poster he responded to. "This guy IS a time waster" is a statement of fact, linked to no evidential base (despite the OP giving ample opportunity to the accuser to verify and substantiate the statement) " Well said | |||
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"Maybe girl tuesday has had personal experience of the op bring a time waster? .....and maybe she should of backed her statement up. ..and maybe she should of asked if anyone else had experienced the op being a time waster ...she did it all wrong bless her Didn't you'd you'd be backing me up But thanks x Oh I'm not backing you up believe me! !...just wished she'd contacted me and everyone else you'd fucked off first BEFORE she'd posted " Tell you what You tell the lovely people what I did Then I'll have my turn Could be interesting | |||
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"Maybe girl tuesday has had personal experience of the op bring a time waster? .....and maybe she should of backed her statement up. ..and maybe she should of asked if anyone else had experienced the op being a time waster ...she did it all wrong bless her Didn't you'd you'd be backing me up But thanks x Oh I'm not backing you up believe me! !...just wished she'd contacted me and everyone else you'd fucked off first BEFORE she'd posted Tell you what You tell the lovely people what I did Then I'll have my turn Could be interesting " How about steering it back to the topic in question..... | |||
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"Maybe girl tuesday has had personal experience of the op bring a time waster? .....and maybe she should of backed her statement up. ..and maybe she should of asked if anyone else had experienced the op being a time waster ...she did it all wrong bless her Didn't you'd you'd be backing me up But thanks x Oh I'm not backing you up believe me! !...just wished she'd contacted me and everyone else you'd fucked off first BEFORE she'd posted Tell you what You tell the lovely people what I did Then I'll have my turn Could be interesting How about steering it back to the topic in question....." Yay | |||
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"Op is taking a roasting Not really sure why Did you see the original post? What happened???" I didnt mate. Your prob a new victim its usually me | |||
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"Good company and good coffee is always worth travelling for Whether they're good or not is an exciting gamble im willing to take Getting on, clicking, having a connection whatever you call it will lead to better sex!! " good advice | |||
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"I've dodged many a bullet by having a social meet. I can't imagine opening my door to someone older than their pic, poor personal hygiene, no social skills etc and having to say "no thanks" on my doorstep! " Couldn't think of anything worse | |||
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"I like socials as I enjoy getting to know people and enjoying each others company as I like to treat people as human beings and not just pieces of meat to satisfy my sexual urges and kinks etc. But as we know it takes all sorts to make a world and horses for courses etc. It's all about doing what your happy with at the end of the day. There's no right or wrong if your doing what your comfortable with with like minded people. " We have no intention of treating anyone like a piece of meat to satisfy our sexual urges either . What we do enjoy is the meeting of like minded people to engage in NSA fun . What we have found is that the better you get to know people , the more strings are attached . | |||
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"I like socials as I enjoy getting to know people and enjoying each others company as I like to treat people as human beings and not just pieces of meat to satisfy my sexual urges and kinks etc. But as we know it takes all sorts to make a world and horses for courses etc. It's all about doing what your happy with at the end of the day. There's no right or wrong if your doing what your comfortable with with like minded people. We have no intention of treating anyone like a piece of meat to satisfy our sexual urges either . What we do enjoy is the meeting of like minded people to engage in NSA fun . What we have found is that the better you get to know people , the more strings are attached . " Well you guys promised me dinner and drinks first lol | |||
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"I like socials as I enjoy getting to know people and enjoying each others company as I like to treat people as human beings and not just pieces of meat to satisfy my sexual urges and kinks etc. But as we know it takes all sorts to make a world and horses for courses etc. It's all about doing what your happy with at the end of the day. There's no right or wrong if your doing what your comfortable with with like minded people. We have no intention of treating anyone like a piece of meat to satisfy our sexual urges either . What we do enjoy is the meeting of like minded people to engage in NSA fun . What we have found is that the better you get to know people , the more strings are attached . Well you guys promised me dinner and drinks first lol" Well you are worth a compromise | |||
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"Hate people that 'need' a social before meeting. When searching on my couples profile for meets it's other couples that want socials rather than anyone else. If you come to our hotel and don't wanna fuck us just leave. Instead of wasting time on a drink and a chat. I don't wanna chit chat. I don't want friends I want sex. Please don't think we're knocking you or your choice of how you like to play. But could we ask, if you have fucked someone, then quickly afterwards after chatting that you can't really can't stand them or their personality, does it bother you that you've just let them fuck you? Also how do you establish boundaries or trust or even a rapport without some interaction first? Again, no critique, just genuinely interested " If I play and find out their an idiot after then I won't meet them again. Happened a few times haha. I usually have a chat with them in messages I can usual gage if they're gonna be okay or not. It's worked well so far | |||
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"I like socials as I enjoy getting to know people and enjoying each others company as I like to treat people as human beings and not just pieces of meat to satisfy my sexual urges and kinks etc. But as we know it takes all sorts to make a world and horses for courses etc. It's all about doing what your happy with at the end of the day. There's no right or wrong if your doing what your comfortable with with like minded people. We have no intention of treating anyone like a piece of meat to satisfy our sexual urges either . What we do enjoy is the meeting of like minded people to engage in NSA fun . What we have found is that the better you get to know people , the more strings are attached . Well you guys promised me dinner and drinks first lol Well you are worth a compromise " Happy Meal for me | |||
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"I like socials as I enjoy getting to know people and enjoying each others company as I like to treat people as human beings and not just pieces of meat to satisfy my sexual urges and kinks etc. But as we know it takes all sorts to make a world and horses for courses etc. It's all about doing what your happy with at the end of the day. There's no right or wrong if your doing what your comfortable with with like minded people. We have no intention of treating anyone like a piece of meat to satisfy our sexual urges either . What we do enjoy is the meeting of like minded people to engage in NSA fun . What we have found is that the better you get to know people , the more strings are attached . Well you guys promised me dinner and drinks first lol Well you are worth a compromise Happy Meal for me " Look - I know you're little but you're not THAT little | |||
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"I like socials as I enjoy getting to know people and enjoying each others company as I like to treat people as human beings and not just pieces of meat to satisfy my sexual urges and kinks etc. But as we know it takes all sorts to make a world and horses for courses etc. It's all about doing what your happy with at the end of the day. There's no right or wrong if your doing what your comfortable with with like minded people. We have no intention of treating anyone like a piece of meat to satisfy our sexual urges either . What we do enjoy is the meeting of like minded people to engage in NSA fun . What we have found is that the better you get to know people , the more strings are attached . " | |||
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"I like a social meet first and most (but not all) of my first meets are but I appreciate that this is essentially a fuck site and that many will want to get right down to action. Anyway, coffee anyone? " Fancy a fuck? | |||
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"I like a social meet first and most (but not all) of my first meets are but I appreciate that this is essentially a fuck site and that many will want to get right down to action. Anyway, coffee anyone? " But this is supposed to be a swing site, not a fuck site? But then I suppose it depends on definition of swinging. | |||
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"I like socials as I enjoy getting to know people and enjoying each others company as I like to treat people as human beings and not just pieces of meat to satisfy my sexual urges and kinks etc. But as we know it takes all sorts to make a world and horses for courses etc. It's all about doing what your happy with at the end of the day. There's no right or wrong if your doing what your comfortable with with like minded people. We have no intention of treating anyone like a piece of meat to satisfy our sexual urges either . What we do enjoy is the meeting of like minded people to engage in NSA fun . What we have found is that the better you get to know people , the more strings are attached . Well you guys promised me dinner and drinks first lol Well you are worth a compromise Happy Meal for me Look - I know you're little but you're not THAT little " I'm a cheap date and I like the toys | |||
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"I like socials as I enjoy getting to know people and enjoying each others company as I like to treat people as human beings and not just pieces of meat to satisfy my sexual urges and kinks etc. But as we know it takes all sorts to make a world and horses for courses etc. It's all about doing what your happy with at the end of the day. There's no right or wrong if your doing what your comfortable with with like minded people. We have no intention of treating anyone like a piece of meat to satisfy our sexual urges either . What we do enjoy is the meeting of like minded people to engage in NSA fun . What we have found is that the better you get to know people , the more strings are attached . Well you guys promised me dinner and drinks first lol Well you are worth a compromise Happy Meal for me Look - I know you're little but you're not THAT little I'm a cheap date and I like the toys " Wonder what the toys would be in an adult meal?..... | |||
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"wondering what everytone thinks about this and please be honest i have no issue with a social meet as a first meet and totally respect and undestand the reasons behind it. what stops me is having to travel miles for a coffee. time is precious. local socials are great but sometimes its just not practical which is a shame when the lady concrned is a goodun" We are very new to this as a couple, and prefer social meetings only does this make us wrong just wanting to make friends, with the possibility of something in the future? | |||
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"wondering what everytone thinks about this and please be honest i have no issue with a social meet as a first meet and totally respect and undestand the reasons behind it. what stops me is having to travel miles for a coffee. time is precious. local socials are great but sometimes its just not practical which is a shame when the lady concrned is a goodun We are very new to this as a couple, and prefer social meetings only does this make us wrong just wanting to make friends, with the possibility of something in the future? " Quite the opposite in my opinion | |||
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