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 What I don't get is what do they get out of it??? | |||
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"I wouldn't of thought anyone would cancelled for no reason n lose money. " From the account given I doubt he'd booked the room at all. | |||
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"I wouldn't of thought anyone would cancelled for no reason n lose money. " he didn't he never booked it in the first place... | |||
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"Glad you got a good result after giving them a second chance,however we will definately not be that generous on this occasion.He cancelled arrangements Friday so we did give him the benefit of doubt, and rearranged for Today then 4 hours before he cancels again,the excuse not able to be verified says he's lost £250 on the room (advertised at £79) but when we ask if we can pay him and use it anyway as we were all set ,he's cancelled it even though he's lost his money!! If he turned up and was a knobhead then he can't help his personality but to purposely make arrangements when he has clearly no intention of turning up just makes me mad...We had similar experience a few years back and said that due to this we won't meet unverified guys..We all have unforeseen circumstances and like to think we are understanding but this was just someone pulling our plonker... " Sorry what? His excuse was not able to be verified and he somone lost hisoney? | |||
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"He probably got off more over wasting your time than he would have from the actual sex act. Not nice at all. Just blok and move on. " yep done and now on the hunt..... grrrrrrrr | |||
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"I wouldn't of thought anyone would cancelled for no reason n lose money. " Doubt he lost money. Room probably wasn't even booked | |||
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"I wouldn't of thought anyone would cancelled for no reason n lose money. From the account given I doubt he'd booked the room at all." Ahhh my mistake xx | |||
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"Every time we break one of our rules or overlook one of our checks we're reminded of why we have them in place. I don't know why we do it either but we do "human nature want see the best in all ..oh well had my rant ...feel better now xxx | |||
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Some of my worst no shows have been verified guys, and their eventual excuses were so ridiculous I never gave them a second chance.
Life is full of disappointment. Our task is to make sure its not that life shattering. | |||
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"I wouldn't of thought anyone would cancelled for no reason n lose money. he didn't he never booked it in the first place..." Must be a knobhead then op. Xxx | |||
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"Some of my best meets have been with unverified guys. They're so grateful. Some of my worst no shows have been verified guys, and their eventual excuses were so ridiculous I never gave them a second chance.
Life is full of disappointment. Our task is to make sure its not that life shattering."too true, had my say and feel better thanks xx | |||
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However I'm not verified and wouldn't dream of doing that.
I have met two ladies already and both were unverified so we couldn't verify each other so it's a bit tricky  | |||
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"Unless something serious has happened (Accident, family emergency, car exploded etc) there should be no reason why he shouldn't have turned up and even then he could have let you know.
However I'm not verified and wouldn't dream of doing that.
I have met two ladies already and both were unverified so we couldn't verify each other so it's a bit tricky "I know shouldn't tar everyone with the same brush like everything in life their are exceptions,thought this was one of them but bite me on the arse....anyway feel better now his loss (joke) | |||
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"I love how he tried to exaggerate it to £250 to try to justify the cancellation, twat" haha my thoughts too | |||
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"I once got called a timewaster by someone who didn't turn up "cheeky twats aren't they | |||
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"Unless something serious has happened (Accident, family emergency, car exploded etc) there should be no reason why he shouldn't have turned up and even then he could have let you know.
However I'm not verified and wouldn't dream of doing that.
I have met two ladies already and both were unverified so we couldn't verify each other so it's a bit tricky
I know shouldn't tar everyone with the same brush like everything in life their are exceptions,thought this was one of them but bite me on the arse....anyway feel better now his loss (joke)"Probably a lucky escape. He sounds like a right tool  | |||
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"Some of my best meets have been with unverified guys. They're so grateful. Some of my worst no shows have been verified guys, and their eventual excuses were so ridiculous I never gave them a second chance.
Life is full of disappointment. Our task is to make sure its not that life shattering." | |||
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"I don't think all the people without verifications are time wasters.... well I know I am not.... seems a shame you make a thread vilifying all those without verifications to get a response.... meh.... Happy Swinging, thanks for the generalisation, most of the couples I meet are alcoholics but seem perfectly reasonable when they are sober and we are chatting... who knew? "The purpose of the forum is to discuss such issues, I don't think the OP can readily be criticised for doing so. If this thread was an isolated thread, fair enough but the reality of the situation is that it is not and many users share experiences of being messed around by unverified users. It is in fact discussed that often many forum users have little sympathy with those who agree to meet unverified people and then are let down. Whilst is is correct that we have to start somewhere and that not all non verified members are time wasters, the risks of being let down by an unverified member are less than with a verified member. That is not to say there is no risk, but the risk is reduced. The problem with the statement 'I know I am not' is that is probably exactly what this guy said and that in turn is where the problem is with taking people at their word. The word of an independent third party is worth so much more. | |||
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"I don't think all the people without verifications are time wasters.... well I know I am not.... seems a shame you make a thread vilifying all those without verifications to get a response.... meh.... Happy Swinging, thanks for the generalisation, most of the couples I meet are alcoholics but seem perfectly reasonable when they are sober and we are chatting... who knew?
The purpose of the forum is to discuss such issues, I don't think the OP can readily be criticised for doing so.
If this thread was an isolated thread, fair enough but the reality of the situation is that it is not and many users share experiences of being messed around by unverified users. It is in fact discussed that often many forum users have little sympathy with those who agree to meet unverified people and then are let down.
Whilst is is correct that we have to start somewhere and that not all non verified members are time wasters, the risks of being let down by an unverified member are less than with a verified member. That is not to say there is no risk, but the risk is reduced.
The problem with the statement 'I know I am not' is that is probably exactly what this guy said and that in turn is where the problem is with taking people at their word. The word of an independent third party is worth so much more. "Alright chap, so we can just vilify a section of the user base based on something as arbitrary as a verification....well if the person/people I am meeting bases their judgement on a green circle with a little tick in it, its probably best we don't meet..... I do okay, I shall leave you to the vilification thread, its not like there isn't one everyday...... Happy swinging | |||
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"But we all start without verifications so some times you just have to take a chance "On my old profile (shall I tell you.....hmmmmm, no) I amassed a fair number of verifications and it was like, why? Just notches, it was like playing fab bingo... and I was arsed about by more verified than unverified. In the 5 weeks I have been back I have had 5 socials and one play meet, all by verified, all offered to verify me and i thought, no, not this time. I ain't going down that road; my business is my business. I am photo verified, if that isn't enough, well, I guess I lose out...... | |||
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"But we all start without verifications so some times you just have to take a chance "I was verified within 5 mins of joining Fab. I'd met the guy on a previous site. Verifications are a tool which people choose to use as an additional filter. Not ever being in the position of not being verified I can't comment on whether it would have affected my chances of meeting, but I wouldn't judge someone for choosing to tailor their use of the site by not meeting unverified people. What is surprising is that the OP hasn't filtered unverified people out. Bet they have now. | |||
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" Alright chap, so we can just vilify a section of the user base based on something as arbitrary as a verification....well if the person/people I am meeting bases their judgement on a green circle with a little tick in it, its probably best we don't meet..... I do okay, I shall leave you to the vilification thread, its not like there isn't one everyday...... Happy swinging " The verification system is an independent, non biased third party saying that they have met that person/user. It in turn provides others members with comfort that i) the person will turn up and ii) they they are not a dickhead, since it is fair to assume the verification would not have been left if that person was a dickhead. I don't advocate the vilifying of any sections of the user base, as should be clear when I stated above I take a chance on non verified members. I often speak up on behalf of single men when they get bashed in forums. I just think in circumstances where a long standing member with numerous verification takes to the forum to express frustration about being let down by an unverified member (as people do, day in, day out) you really are pissing in the wind then seeking to criticise that member and criticise the system that the site relies on and which most members follow. | |||
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"But we all start without verifications so some times you just have to take a chance
I was verified within 5 mins of joining Fab. I'd met the guy on a previous site.
Verifications are a tool which people choose to use as an additional filter. Not ever being in the position of not being verified I can't comment on whether it would have affected my chances of meeting, but I wouldn't judge someone for choosing to tailor their use of the site by not meeting unverified people.
What is surprising is that the OP hasn't filtered unverified people out. Bet they have now. "Hey Wyrd, this is my first time using the non-verified but face pic profile/photo verified and I have to say, its been really good, I haven't had any lamp post pissing either which is a relief. Having tried both methods, I am converted to non-verified for life, I use it as a filter, if people won't meet unverified, they probably aren't the kind of people I would meet.. strangely, open minded works best for me... | |||
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"Not all non-veris are "knobheads " or "timewasters" on my first pro i meet quite a few non-verified members n have fantastic meets. Sorry yours turned out crappy but don't write them all off. Xxx" I've met loads of unverified men off here never had a problem with any, not got on with them all but they have all turned up Only ever had two no shows off here one a single guy, one a couple, both were verified We were all not verified at one point | |||
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" Alright chap, so we can just vilify a section of the user base based on something as arbitrary as a verification....well if the person/people I am meeting bases their judgement on a green circle with a little tick in it, its probably best we don't meet..... I do okay, I shall leave you to the vilification thread, its not like there isn't one everyday...... Happy swinging The verification system is an independent, non biased third party saying that they have met that person/user. It in turn provides others members with comfort that i) the person will turn up and ii) they they are not a dickhead, since it is fair to assume the verification would not have been left if that person was a dickhead. I don't advocate the vilifying of any sections of the user base, as should be clear when I stated above I take a chance on non verified members. I often speak up on behalf of single men when they get bashed in forums. I just think in circumstances where a long standing member with numerous verification takes to the forum to express frustration about being let down by an unverified member (as people do, day in, day out) you really are pissing in the wind then seeking to criticise that member and criticise the system that the site relies on and which most members follow. " Not true. verified men will verify non-verified single women without a meet for the chance of a meet in the future....verifications can be done by webcam and then hidden, there is little to know guarantee that a verified member will meet... sorry.. but I respect your view, it differs from mine and I wish you, as I have said before, happy swinging.. but these threads day in and day out just bash, its like we don't want new people to join the scene and its negative....not informative | |||
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" Alright chap, so we can just vilify a section of the user base based on something as arbitrary as a verification....well if the person/people I am meeting bases their judgement on a green circle with a little tick in it, its probably best we don't meet..... I do okay, I shall leave you to the vilification thread, its not like there isn't one everyday...... Happy swinging The verification system is an independent, non biased third party saying that they have met that person/user. It in turn provides others members with comfort that i) the person will turn up and ii) they they are not a dickhead, since it is fair to assume the verification would not have been left if that person was a dickhead. I don't advocate the vilifying of any sections of the user base, as should be clear when I stated above I take a chance on non verified members. I often speak up on behalf of single men when they get bashed in forums. I just think in circumstances where a long standing member with numerous verification takes to the forum to express frustration about being let down by an unverified member (as people do, day in, day out) you really are pissing in the wind then seeking to criticise that member and criticise the system that the site relies on and which most members follow. " some interesting points of view,I rarely post in the forum,just needed an outlet for my frustration.I know this happens all the time and I shouldn't tar all unverified with the same brush,thanks for sharing your thoughts. | |||
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 . He was verified but only had socials. I still think he'd bottled it x | |||
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" Not true. verified men will verify non-verified single women without a meet for the chance of a meet in the future....verifications can be done by webcam and then hidden, there is little to know guarantee that a verified member will meet... sorry.. but I respect your view, it differs from mine and I wish you, as I have said before, happy swinging.. but these threads day in and day out just bash, its like we don't want new people to join the scene and its negative....not informative " I acknowledge the system is not perfect and that the problems you mention do happen. I have it local to me (or I suspect I do). On the whole however the system does work, as part of a wider 'checking up' process, by which I mean don't rely solely on a verification. I do however also think, a site without such a system would be anarchy. Whilst I appreciate you advocate a different approach, ultimately we are primarily here to have fun. I don't think it is fair to criticise the OP for what is a fair assessment of the circumstances unless you are seeking to criticise all members for such threads and to do that would require an inordinate amount of time which I am sure could be spent better elsewhere. Ultimately that is your choice though. Its your time rather than mine. | |||
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" Alright chap, so we can just vilify a section of the user base based on something as arbitrary as a verification....well if the person/people I am meeting bases their judgement on a green circle with a little tick in it, its probably best we don't meet..... I do okay, I shall leave you to the vilification thread, its not like there isn't one everyday...... Happy swinging The verification system is an independent, non biased third party saying that they have met that person/user. It in turn provides others members with comfort that i) the person will turn up and ii) they they are not a dickhead, since it is fair to assume the verification would not have been left if that person was a dickhead. I don't advocate the vilifying of any sections of the user base, as should be clear when I stated above I take a chance on non verified members. I often speak up on behalf of single men when they get bashed in forums. I just think in circumstances where a long standing member with numerous verification takes to the forum to express frustration about being let down by an unverified member (as people do, day in, day out) you really are pissing in the wind then seeking to criticise that member and criticise the system that the site relies on and which most members follow. some interesting points of view,I rarely post in the forum,just needed an outlet for my frustration.I know this happens all the time and I shouldn't tar all unverified with the same brush,thanks for sharing your thoughts. " and I didn't mean to be overly critical and if I have in anyway caused offence I apologise. You and I both know that there are time wasters and dreamers on this website and it can be a bloody minefield. I also know just how difficult it is to arrange "play-time" and it sucks when you get let down. My one let down on this profile (5 weeks old), has been a verified member, but in hindsight, I should have seen it coming. Sometimes its the way we choose (and I appreciate you did all you could with this one you have mentioned), sometimes shit just happens. It certainly isn't your fault that sometimes the forums can be negative and dissuade people from joining in, in fact thats more likely people like me that come out all rambunctious and the like. I just think, each person that messages me, I view on merit, on the way we chat, their profile and pics this helps me decided whether I should say "okay, I get a chance to meet a couple of times each week, I will meet this one", I never view a non-verified as a potential no-show, I remain positive | |||
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"But we all start without verifications so some times you just have to take a chance
I was verified within 5 mins of joining Fab. I'd met the guy on a previous site.
Verifications are a tool which people choose to use as an additional filter. Not ever being in the position of not being verified I can't comment on whether it would have affected my chances of meeting, but I wouldn't judge someone for choosing to tailor their use of the site by not meeting unverified people.
What is surprising is that the OP hasn't filtered unverified people out. Bet they have now.
Hey Wyrd, this is my first time using the non-verified but face pic profile/photo verified and I have to say, its been really good, I haven't had any lamp post pissing either which is a relief.
Having tried both methods, I am converted to non-verified for life, I use it as a filter, if people won't meet unverified, they probably aren't the kind of people I would meet.. strangely, open minded works best for me..."I'm not a massive fan of verifications either. I don't show any that mention sex, because I feel that sex is pretty subjective - one mans meat is another mans poison and all that. I display ones from friends, to prove that I actually do exist. I don't show my summary because (As the forums often demonstrate) people are too lazy to read, and assume that because I've met TVs and guys at clubs/socials etc, I'm not straight. Also, I have a lot of them, and then you fall foul of the whole quality/quantity discussion.... I've had some great meets with unverfied people and more than a few meets with people whereby we haven't bothered to verify (many of these have been repeat meets). I've actually been considering starting an new profile and eschewing verifications for some time now and I like the insight that you have given me... | |||
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" Alright chap, so we can just vilify a section of the user base based on something as arbitrary as a verification....well if the person/people I am meeting bases their judgement on a green circle with a little tick in it, its probably best we don't meet..... I do okay, I shall leave you to the vilification thread, its not like there isn't one everyday.... Happy swinging The verification system is an independent, non biased third party saying that they have met that person/user. It in turn provides others members with comfort that i) the person will turn up and ii) they they are not a dickhead, since it is fair to assume the verification would not have been left if that person was a dickhead. I don't advocate the vilifying of any sections of the user base, as should be clear when I stated above I take a chance on non verified members. I often speak up on behalf of single men when they get bashed in forums. I just think in circumstances where a long standing member with numerous verification takes to the forum to express frustration about being let down by an unverified member (as people do, day in, day out) you really are pissing in the wind then seeking to criticise that member and criticise the system that the site relies on and which most members follow. some interesting points of view,I rarely post in the forum,just needed an outlet for my frustration.I know this happens all the time and I shouldn't tar all unverified with the same brush,thanks for sharing your thoughts. and I didn't mean to be overly critical and if I have in anyway caused offence I apologise. You and I both know that there are time wasters and dreamers on this website and it can be a bloody minefield. I also know just how difficult it is to arrange "play-time" and it sucks when you get let down. My one let down on this profile (5 weeks old), has been a verified member, but in hindsight, I should have seen it coming. Sometimes its the way we choose (and I appreciate you did all you could with this one you have mentioned), sometimes shit just happens. It certainly isn't your fault that sometimes the forums can be negative and dissuade people from joining in, in fact thats more likely people like me that come out all rambunctious and the like. I just think, each person that messages me, I view on merit, on the way we chat, their profile and pics this helps me decided whether I should say "okay, I get a chance to meet a couple of times each week, I will meet this one", I never view a non-verified as a potential no-show, I remain positive" You make your points very eloquently,and I do judge people on their merit too but in my case when I have been let down (and luckily not very often)it has been by someone with no veris hence my original post.My point I think I was trying to make was only really have myself to blame as had a gut feeling and ignored it.It happens I accept that, people get a kick from it I don't know why.. Over it, thanks for the comments xxx | |||
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"Well we did it again,broke our golden rule of not meeting guys with no verifications.After many years of this lifestyle you would think we would know better.Why share this lack of judgement with the fab world..well hopefully I will take my own advice next time and I need an outlet to vent my massive disapppointment.Spent weeks chatting to a guy who seemed lovely genuine and just up my street,pushed all the right buttons but no veri's and just seemed too good to pass by and guess what ...he was!!,just a knobhead time waster,so frustrating when you get little free time..note to self DON'T DO IT... What I don't get is what do they get out of it??? "As usual we are not all like that.i had great veris til my divorce but got single profile any started over. | |||
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" You make your points very eloquently,and I do judge people on their merit too but in my case when I have been let down (and luckily not very often)it has been by someone with no veris hence my original post.My point I think I was trying to make was only really have myself to blame as had a gut feeling and ignored it.It happens I accept that, people get a kick from it I don't know why.. Over it, thanks for the comments xxx" And I am sorry you got let down, i know how difficult it is for couples to coordinate and I genuinely know the frustration of getting all keyed up for a meet and watching it implode, its true crapola. I hope you can arrange a meet soon and it makes up for the crap you got dealt this time x | |||
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"Four months we have been on this site and Completely new to this. Within weeks we got photo verified, but It has been a steep learning curve on here, eg how to write a decent profile etc. We had a meet set up with a verified member which fell through due to a family illness. We have carried on chatting with this lady and are now meeting her next weekend. Not everyone unverified are time wasters " | |||
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"Some of my best meets have been with unverified guys. They're so grateful. Some of my worst no shows have been verified guys, and their eventual excuses were so ridiculous I never gave them a second chance.
Life is full of disappointment. Our task is to make sure its not that life shattering."They're so grateful. Like puppies with a bone ? | |||
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"Some of my best meets have been with unverified guys. They're so grateful. Some of my worst no shows have been verified guys, and their eventual excuses were so ridiculous I never gave them a second chance.
Life is full of disappointment. Our task is to make sure its not that life shattering."I agree, someone has to be the 1st to meet these guys.. We were ALL unvarified at some point.. | |||
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