FabSwingers.com forum: One in 500 people in Leeds has HIV, latest figures show

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

But around a quarter of those affected are thought to be unaware they have the virus – and health bosses have urged anyone who could be at risk to get tested.

They were speaking out in advance of national HIV Testing Week, which starts on November 22, and will see special clinics being held around the city.

Around 1,200 patients with the virus are in treatment in Leeds and experts say that early diagnoses are crucial for those affected, and can save the NHS around £350,000 per person.

Leeds is the only area in Yorkshire and the Humber with a high prevalence of the illness.

Dr Sarah Schoeman, consultant in sexual health and HIV medicine at Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust, said: “There’s really good treatment available and most people diagnosed have a near normal life expectancy.

“If somebody does not know about their HIV, they are more likely to pass it on. The quarter of people who are unaware are responsible for 50 per cent of infections with HIV and they are more likely to be diagnosed later.”

Newly published data shows that more than 5,000 people in Yorkshire were living with HIV last year, 352 of whom were newly diagnosed.

That is a slight drop from 2011, though the number of people That is a slight drop from 2011, though the number of people accessing care had increased by six per cent.

In Leeds, hospital bosses, health bodies, Leeds City Council and charities have teamed up to offer 40 extra clinics next week, in the run-up to World AIDS Day on December 1. The free, confidential drop-ins, include a 6am session dubbed Testing on Toast.

Clinics aimed at people originally from Africa, who are one of the communities most at risk, will also be held.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Leeds Skyline are taking part in National HIV Testing week again this year, starting on 21st November.They will be hosting testing sessions in and around the city.

We are particularly encouraging African men and women to come to have a confidential test with us, as our testing service is especially designed for African communities in Leeds

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are you saying Leeds is the HIV/STI capital of the UK?

Sounds like the rest of us should stay clear.....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Are you saying Leeds is the HIV/STI capital of the UK?

Sounds like the rest of us should stay clear....."

thats up to you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why do these stories always come out about Leeds?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

1 in 500?

wow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Staying the f away from leeds

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

So I can go to Leeds and bareback with 499 people?

I'd better count carefully.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

HIV is largely linked to sexual behaviour: high numbers of sexual partners and anal sex without a condom carry a higher risk than unprotected vaginal sex (which is one of the reasons why gay and bisexual men have high rates of HIV).

People who have moved here from parts of the world where HIV is much more common are another affected group.

HIV infection is also linked to injecting drug use - drug users who share injecting equipment are at a greater risk (which is the reason for high rates of infection in some countries).Black Africans make up 1.8% of the UK population but 29% of all people living with HIV. Within the African population living with HIV in the UK, around one in six black African men and one in eight black African women do not know they have it.

However, new diagnoses are falling among this group due to fewer diagnoses among people born in sub-Saharan Africa Gay and bisexual men in the UK also have high rates of HIV infection.

Nationally, around one in 20 is estimated to be living with HIV. In London as many as one in eight are living with the virus. Rates are even higher among men using the gay scenes of large cities.

In 2014 over 3,360 gay and bisexual men tested HIV positive, the highest figure ever reported.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This doesn't make sense. I am sure there isn't a high proportion of Africans in Leeds. Yet the post said about them encouraging Africans to get tested. Seems they missed the trick. Unless 1in 500 people in leeds is African.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So I can go to Leeds and bareback with 499 people?

I'd better count carefully."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"HIV is largely linked to sexual behaviour: high numbers of sexual partners and anal sex without a condom carry a higher risk than unprotected vaginal sex (which is one of the reasons why gay and bisexual men have high rates of HIV).

People who have moved here from parts of the world where HIV is much more common are another affected group.

However, new diagnoses are falling among this group due to fewer diagnoses among people born in sub-Saharan Africa Gay and bisexual men in the UK also have high rates of HIV infection.

Nationally, around one in 20 is estimated to be living with HIV. In London as many as one in eight are living with the virus. Rates are even higher among men using the gay scenes of large cities.

In 2014 over 3,360 gay and bisexual men tested HIV positive, the highest figure ever reported.

wtf

those stats for real??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How do they know they have if they are unaware. For those statistics to be true then they must have tested everyone in Leeds.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

lets all play safe

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

I haven't slept with 500 guys; therefore, statistically, I am safe; phew

PS. Where is Leeds?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How do they know they have if they are unaware. For those statistics to be true then they must have tested everyone in Leeds. "

That's the beauty of stats, 50% of them are made up on the spot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like an area where the authorities are putting out good public health initiatives and programmes - why is that a negative thing?

And yes, there is a sizeable African community in Leeds as compared to the rest of Yorkshire, so I'm guessing that's why Leeds.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you saying Leeds is the HIV/STI capital of the UK?

Sounds like the rest of us should stay clear....."

i'm thinking that because that strain of gonnorhea was found there also.

it could also just be that they have the best STD services and people are using them.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"How do they know they have if they are unaware. For those statistics to be true then they must have tested everyone in Leeds. "

You can extrapolate from those you have tested. Of course it's not a perfect measure but the accuracy improves with a larger sample size.

I'd be interested to see the details of the study. I may look it up later.

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

It's actually 1.4 in 500 for the entire 15-59 age population not just Leeds

However that breaks down to 0.95 in 500 woman and 1.85 in 500 men

And of course that's on average - as said the rates are higher in African men and men whinsex with men meaning individuals not in those groups will have a lower average rate

Overall figures are useful but age, sex, country of origin etc all alter the true prevalence in a specific group

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"I haven't slept with 500 guys; therefore, statistically, I am safe; phew

PS. Where is Leeds?"

for reference, it is everywhere given it it is on a major commuter belt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't understand why ppl want to ride bareback knowing there is such a high risk of STI'S & especially HIV/aids. Obviously ppl dont care about the risk they carry to others & especially loved ones if in a relationship. Folk need to wise up & put a rubber on their knobs.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"Can't understand why ppl want to ride bareback knowing there is such a high risk of STI'S & especially HIV/aids. Obviously ppl dont care about the risk they carry to others & especially loved ones if in a relationship. Folk need to wise up & put a rubber on their knobs. "

ummmm - there are plenty of women that promote bareback.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

It's a rapidly developing picture, with the impact of new drug therapies, improved life expectancy and recent immigration creating new challenges for HIV service providers.

In the UK, gay men and black African immigrants continue to make up the majority of patients with HIV.

Although the illness is no longer regarded as terminal, it is still a chronic condition.

High costs of treatment and care are involved and, every year, thousands of people are diagnosed with HIV for the first time.

In recent years, the Yorkshire and Humber region has seen increasing numbers of people accessing HIV-related care.

As more people with HIV move away from major urban centres like London and Manchester, services in smaller towns are having to adapt to new ways of working.

Changing demographics

Gugulethu, Rob and Adele all use Begin, a newly refurbished HIV support centre in Wakefield.

Marrying the needs of increasingly diverse groups of clients is part of the challenge for this service.Gay men's health leaflets sit alongside information on breast feeding, and the service has introduced a creche to cater for the growing number of African women with children.

Tom Doyle, director of Yorkshire Mesmac, a Leeds-based HIV service which recently merged with Begin, said: "Traditionally, social services for people living with HIV were set up by and for gay men.

"Up until fairly recently, the vast majority of Begin's service users were gay men.

"But in the past five years, that's changed dramatically and now the majority are African women, who are often asylum seekers or refugees."

Begin is located on an anonymous industrial estate near a desolate railway station.

But the discreet location is essential for preserving the confidentiality of the people who attend its weekly drop-in and peer support sessions.

Zimbabwe to West Yorkshire

One woman who uses the service is Gugulethu, 45, who is from Zimbabwe.

She did not want to give the BBC her real name, instead using that of her late daughter which translates as "precious" - all the more poignant given that her daughter died of Aids at the age of 27, leaving behind a little boy who is also HIV positive and increasingly ill.

Gugulethu came to the UK in 2003 as a political asylum seeker.

She was dispersed to West Yorkshire and has lived in Wakefield ever since.Gugulethu was diagnosed with HIV about 10 years ago, and thinks she contracted the virus through sexual intercourse.

Her experience as a black woman living alone in this former mining city has not been easy.

"I hide my HIV status from my neighbours, but unfortunately some people around where I live found HIV magazines in my dustbin and stuck them on my door.

"l had to hide in my flat for quite some time until Begin helped me out.

"I still feel very lonely, and keep my windows closed. There are people who call me names, but you get used to it."

For Gugulethu, the services at Begin provide her with both a lifeline to alleviate her sense of isolation and food to maintain her health.

'Cooking around the pot'

The emotional support offered by Begin is equally as important for one of the gay men who attends the lunch service.

Rob Sheldon-Chappell, 46, is in a civil partnership with his partner of five years.

Both men are HIV positive, although Rob is not yet taking medication and hopes to remain healthy enough to avoid drugs for some time.

"I use this service for financial and moral support.

"With HIV-related problems, you can't always discuss them with your doctor or your family. Here you can have non-judgemental conversations with staff and other service users."

He said that the group's diverse make-up has "opened his eyes" to the situation facing people in other countries, especially African women.

'On the same wavelength'

Sitting at the lunch table in Wakefield, a lone white woman represents another important part of the HIV story in the UK - the worsening sexual health of young people.

Adele, who doesn't want to give her surname, was diagnosed with the virus during a routine smear test four years ago, just before her 21st birthday party.

Although she has a supportive family, and her work colleagues are aware of her status, Adele's sense of isolation has led her to set up a new peer support group for young people with HIV.

African men are over represented amongst homosexually acquired HIV infection

Tom Doyle, Yorkshire Mesmac

Young and Positive is targeted at 16-25 year olds living in the area. She hopes it will bring some of the most isolated people in the region together to help one another.

"There'll be young women and young men out there who are straight and who have HIV.

"This will be a chance to get together and be on the same wavelength."

Tom Doyle admitted there had been tensions between different groups with HIV, although he cautioned against simplistic notions of gay men as racist, or black women as homophobic.Rather, he said that tensions have arisen as a result of competition for finite resources, but being open and transparent about the reasons for the allocation of funding has helped.

"There is still an epidemic amongst gay men, and there is an imported epidemic amongst African people in the UK. But those groups aren't always distinct.

"We know, for example, that African men are over represented amongst homosexually acquired HIV infection. So there are often crossovers in infection, but that's not often talked about.

"Prevention has to be the key

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Staying the f away from leeds"

ahhh but have you ever been there in the past? ....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

risk it for a biscuit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven't slept with 500 guys; therefore, statistically, I am safe; phew

PS. Where is Leeds?"

If you are up to 499 statistically you are still ok

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

If 25% don't know they have it where did that statistic come from

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I guess the russian roulette wheel is spun a lot in leeds lol.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"I guess the russian roulette wheel is spun a lot in leeds lol."

Bloody big wheel if it has 500 slots!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I guess the russian roulette wheel is spun a lot in leeds lol.

Bloody big wheel if it has 500 slots!"
That is right hundreds of slots or it is called the leeds wheel

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"I guess the russian roulette wheel is spun a lot in leeds lol.

Bloody big wheel if it has 500 slots!That is right hundreds of slots or it is called the leeds wheel

I've never seen a handgun that takes 500 bullets myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I guess the russian roulette wheel is spun a lot in leeds lol.

Bloody big wheel if it has 500 slots!That is right hundreds of slots or it is called the leeds wheel

I've never seen a handgun that takes 500 bullets myself

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Neither me so it have to be an automatic wouldn't it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If 25% don't know they have it where did that statistic come from

i just looked this up. they use statistics from pregnant women called the Estimations and Projection Package (EPP). i think this means 25% of pregnant women with aids won't know they have it.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"If 25% don't know they have it where did that statistic come from

i just looked this up. they use statistics from pregnant women called the Estimations and Projection Package (EPP). i think this means 25% of pregnant women with aids won't know they have it.

Oh right, thank you it makes slightly more sense now. What an awful shock to discover that during pregnancy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If 25% don't know they have it where did that statistic come from

i just looked this up. they use statistics from pregnant women called the Estimations and Projection Package (EPP). i think this means 25% of pregnant women with aids won't know they have it.

Oh right, thank you it makes slightly more sense now. What an awful shock to discover that during pregnancy."

apparently pregnant women correlate with all previous data on aids/hiv so that's why they only use them.

yeah i would've been gutted to find that out, did consent to the tests myself. don't know if they tell you if you don't ask for the tests though.

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By *ancyDrewWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

people are questioning the stats, you know what, thats ok. People are staying 'stay the fuck away from Leeds' and that is less ok.

Don't stigamtise those of us with HIV.

Do yourself a favour, get tested. Its easy. And you know what, having HIV isn't what you think it is. Its pretty much ok. One pill a day, big whoop. Risk of transmission once on meds? Nil.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

That's all very scary, there's someone in Leeds I want to meet too!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"That's all very scary, there's someone in Leeds I want to meet too!

I wouldn't let it put me off. The averages will be much the same in many other built up places and similar across the country as a whole.

All we can do is assume anyone might have something transmissible and protect ourselves as best we can, or become celibate.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

all you can do is play safe and us common sense

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By *itchfieldMan
over a year ago

Portsmouth

"people are questioning the stats, you know what, thats ok. People are staying 'stay the fuck away from Leeds' and that is less ok.

Don't stigamtise those of us with HIV.

Do yourself a favour, get tested. Its easy. And you know what, having HIV isn't what you think it is. Its pretty much ok. One pill a day, big whoop. Risk of transmission once on meds? Nil. "

Really? Has the medication become so good that it stops HIV positive people transmitting the disease? That's seriously impressive. Anyone got a link to some evidence for this?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That's all very scary, there's someone in Leeds I want to meet too!

Are you being serious? If you want to meet someone, meet them! The fact they happen to be in Leeds doesn't actually make them any more of a risk than if they happen to be in Berkshire or Hampshire or something.

As someone already said above, it's probably an indication that Leeds has good sexual health services that are well used so they've a good awareness of their population.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That's all very scary, there's someone in Leeds I want to meet too!

As someone already said above, it's probably an indication that Leeds has good sexual health services that are well used so they've a good awareness of their population. "

Well said!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"all you can do is play safe and us common sense"

"Play safe"? What does that mean?

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"all you can do is play safe and us common sense

"Play safe"? What does that mean?"

Don't score an own goal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"all you can do is play safe and us common sense

"Play safe"? What does that mean?"
Don't swing to high on the swing lol.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

I don't get those figures, I need to read the report - 1/500 women, nearly 2/500 men in Leeds, but nationally 1/20 or as low as 1/8 MSM in London living with HIV?? Is that correct?

I had read that risk of HIV was 40x for MSM but this is up to 65x??

Am I reading correctly?

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By *ungBlackTopMan
over a year ago

salford

"I don't get those figures, I need to read the report - 1/500 women, nearly 2/500 men in Leeds, but nationally 1/20 or as low as 1/8 MSM in London living with HIV?? Is that correct?

I had read that risk of HIV was 40x for MSM but this is up to 65x??

correct. MSM don't access services as they don't see themselves as at risk as they are neither gay/bi/str8/TS.

Am I reading correctly? "

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

At the risk of sounding stupid, what is MSM?

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"At the risk of sounding stupid, what is MSM?"

Men who have sex with men - its the term being used generically in research now.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"At the risk of sounding stupid, what is MSM?

Men who have sex with men - its the term being used generically in research now."

OK, thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't get those figures, I need to read the report - 1/500 women, nearly 2/500 men in Leeds, but nationally 1/20 or as low as 1/8 MSM in London living with HIV?? Is that correct?

I had read that risk of HIV was 40x for MSM but this is up to 65x??

Am I reading correctly? "

I read some stats recently,I can't remember where but it said that London had the highest number per capita of hiv infection and my Borough was third in rising cases,I think,with gay men and African women being the most affected. I'm trying to find the report.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

I dunno even with a small risk of HIV transmission via oral, with so many people saying straight men on fabs are often not straight it all freaks me out sometimes.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

It seems these kind of stats are correct - from a 2015 study:

The HIV prevalence among those aged 15-44 years in 2014 in the UK was estimated to

be 2.3 per 1,000 population (CrI 2.1-2.5), 2.8 per 1,000 men and 1.7 per 1,000 women.

In the

UK in 2014, the estimated HIV prevalence among MSM aged 15-44 was one in 20 (48.7

MSM (CrI 41.2-58.1) per 1,000). This was higher in London, where one in 11 MSM

(89.7 per 1,000 (CrI 65.9-122.6)) were living with HIV compared to one in 28 (35.6 per

1,000 (CrI 28.5-43.7)) in England and Wales outside of London.

Source: HIV in the UK – Situation Report 2015

Incidence, prevalence and prevention

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By *ficouldMan
over a year ago

a quandary, could you change my mind?

Some very worrying reading..

But how often do we really hear about this issue in our day to day lives.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That's all very scary, there's someone in Leeds I want to meet too!

Are you being serious? If you want to meet someone, meet them! The fact they happen to be in Leeds doesn't actually make them any more of a risk than if they happen to be in Berkshire or Hampshire. "

Really!!! We are the royal Borough of Berkshire you know. The only bareback we do is on our horses across Windsor great Park.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lets all play safe

very difficult when the majority of females on fab insist on no condom when sucking cock

you can still catch HIV from oral

whether you believe it or not

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"That's all very scary, there's someone in Leeds I want to meet too!

Are you being serious? If you want to meet someone, meet them! The fact they happen to be in Leeds doesn't actually make them any more of a risk than if they happen to be in Berkshire or Hampshire.

Really!!! We are the royal Borough of Berkshire you know. The only bareback we do is on our horses across Windsor great Park. "

Haha, risk of death there, but I would!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's one scary statistic.

I always play safe no matter what

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That's one scary statistic.

I always play safe no matter what"

'Safe sex'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lets all play safe

very difficult when the majority of females on fab insist on no condom when sucking cock

you can still catch HIV from oral

whether you believe it or not"
actually I have been told that there isn't any cases of that. I insist on sucking cock bare.... Wouldn't bother other wise

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"all you can do is play safe and us common sense

"Play safe"? What does that mean?"

thats up to you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lets all play safe

very difficult when the majority of females on fab insist on no condom when sucking cock

you can still catch HIV from oral

whether you believe it or not actually I have been told that there isn't any cases of that. I insist on sucking cock bare.... Wouldn't bother other wise "

then good luck to you, but you really need to improve your research

now where is my block button

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lets all play safe

very difficult when the majority of females on fab insist on no condom when sucking cock

you can still catch HIV from oral

whether you believe it or not actually I have been told that there isn't any cases of that. I insist on sucking cock bare.... Wouldn't bother other wise

then good luck to you, but you really need to improve your research

now where is my block button"

This was from the clinic

and I am tested every 4 weeks but I'm not on my own with this and I lee very up to date with research.

I'm more at risk from cross contamination play at clubs than oral.

So do you insist on dental dams

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"people are questioning the stats, you know what, thats ok. People are staying 'stay the fuck away from Leeds' and that is less ok.

Don't stigamtise those of us with HIV.

Do yourself a favour, get tested. Its easy. And you know what, having HIV isn't what you think it is. Its pretty much ok. One pill a day, big whoop. Risk of transmission once on meds? Nil.

Really? Has the medication become so good that it stops HIV positive people transmitting the disease? That's seriously impressive. Anyone got a link to some evidence for this?"

Here http://mobile.aidsmap.com/Viral-load-and-the-risk-of-transmission/page/1320687

Google is also your friend.

Viral load is highest after initial infection - this is why regular testing is important as it catches people early and hopefully before they can infect others

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Doctors and researchers can't be sure how many people have been infected with HIV through oral sex. Some think hardly anybody has been infected with HIV from oral sex, but other people think that as many as 3% of infections are due to oral sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Doctors and researchers can't be sure how many people have been infected with HIV through oral sex. Some think hardly anybody has been infected with HIV from oral sex, but other people think that as many as 3% of infections are due to oral sex "
I was told as most people wont have only had oral sex, it would be impossible to give a number as unlike other infections, it doesn't show in the throat or mouth but obviously just that you have it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Oral sex is much less risky than anal or vaginal sex – but HIV still can enter through open cuts and sores, or possibly by infecting the lining of the mouth. There are some documented cases of people getting HIV through their mouth.

Once semen gets past the mouth, stomach acid and enzymes in the esophagus kill the virus. So swallowing or spitting out semen (cum or precum) reduces your risk for HIV, compared with letting it sit in your mouthTo reduce your risk even more, make sure you keep the mucous membranes in your mouth healthy – don’t perform oral for about 45 minutes after you brush your teeth, floss, or engage in any other aggravating oral behavior, and not at all when you have open soresRemember, while the chance of catching HIV from oral sex is very low, you can easily catch other STDs, in particular gonorrhea and chlamydia

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over a year ago

I'm a believer that anyone who has bareback with others except there partner have a good chance of having some form of std

Therefor happy to pass it on

Best thing is to treat anyone who does bareback as someone who is a carrier

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm a believer that anyone who has bareback with others except there partner have a good chance of having some form of std

Therefor happy to pass it on

Best thing is to treat anyone who does bareback as someone who is a carrier "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The thing that does me on here is the vilification of those that chose to not use condoms. ( we opt for condoms for full sex but not for oral.)

However we are aware that even using condoms we are still at risk just due to the fact we have lots of sexual partners. Also as we play a lot in group and club situations we are aware there are lots of risks from fingers etc. Ie I've never seen a guy or girl in a group situation go and wash fingers or wipe a mouth in-between partner swaps.

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over a year ago

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By *imited 3EditionCouple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England

This is enough to give anyone nightmares and run a mile from the site/scene

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By *ougarsandcubsWoman
over a year ago

Medway

Was that an April fools post ????

Aids is far rarer than hiv ... ( they aren't the same ) one can lead to another

The last published figures were from 2014

64 million people in UK and estimated 103 k with hiv .

Hardly 1 in 500 ... get real everyone that means every time you go to supermarket. A busy night club. Your kids school.. at least one or more peopke have aids !!

I don't think so .. those odds are great than cancer !!

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By *ougarsandcubsWoman
over a year ago

Medway

"I'm a believer that anyone who has bareback with others except there partner have a good chance of having some form of std

Therefor happy to pass it on

Best thing is to treat anyone who does bareback as someone who is a carrier "

I'm sorry the above is total ignorance

You can also pass stds on through oral..and some stains can be dormant in the body years

Chylmidya. Gonorreha. Warts .sphyillis and herpes ( excuse typos )

All passed on through oral not just through bareback so the only truly safe sex is no sex!!!

And that my friends is the only true fact in this feed !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Was that an April fools post ????

Aids is far rarer than hiv ... ( they aren't the same ) one can lead to another

The last published figures were from 2014

64 million people in UK and estimated 103 k with hiv .

Hardly 1 in 500 ... get real everyone that means every time you go to supermarket. A busy night club. Your kids school.. at least one or more peopke have aids !!

I don't think so .. those odds are great than cancer !! "

Errr no, 1 in 2 people get cancer in their lifetime, I don't think that's a good comparison to make

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over a year ago

Regardless of whether the data is right or not, i do think that political correctness and other forces have served to suppress the true story of HIV in the uk. I believe that it has been deliberately downplayed and that there is a real lack of public information and awareness for fear of upsetting some people.

People think ,oh yes, you can live with hiv now,,well you can live with a lot of things.

We MUST have more media public awareness campaigns for HIV in this country and i dont give a flying fuck who is upset about it.

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By *anky_PankyWoman
over a year ago

Filthy Fuckeryville

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Was that an April fools post ????

Aids is far rarer than hiv ... ( they aren't the same ) one can lead to another

The last published figures were from 2014

The 2015 report I quoted is available on https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/477702/HIV_in_the_UK_2015_report.pdf

In 2014, an estimated 103,700 people (95% credible interval (CrI) 97,500-112,700)

were living with HIV (PLWH) in the UK, of whom 69,200 (CrI 65,000-75,100) were men

and 34,400 (CrI 31,700-39,100) were women. This compares to an estimated 100,000

PLWH in 20131

. The overall HIV prevalence in the UK in 2014 was 1.9 per 1,000

people aged 15 and over.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Regardless of whether the data is right or not, i do think that political correctness and other forces have served to suppress the true story of HIV in the uk. I believe that it has been deliberately downplayed and that there is a real lack of public information and awareness for fear of upsetting some people.

People think ,oh yes, you can live with hiv now,,well you can live with a lot of things.

We MUST have more media public awareness campaigns for HIV in this country and i dont give a flying fuck who is upset about it."

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By *oxesMan
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

"I guess the russian roulette wheel is spun a lot in leeds lol.

Bloody big wheel if it has 500 slots!That is right hundreds of slots or it is called the leeds wheel

Wheel of fortune comes to mind here. Spin the wheelunfortunatly you have caught vanerial decease.

I better stay safe when I go to uni in Leeds.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The thing that does me on here is the vilification of those that chose to not use condoms. ( we opt for condoms for full sex but not for oral.)

It's scary how many people that seem to think that "safe sex" exists.

So many think that because they use condoms they won't catch anything.

Or the ones that think if they don't fuck anyone from Leeds, they are safe... !!!

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By *olden_Road_to_SamarkandMan
over a year ago

North Wessex Downs

Excellent point well made. We ALL need to be careful...amazing the amount of unprotected sex I see going on amongst people who have clearly just met in clubs these days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do these stories always come out about Leeds?

My thoughts exactly.

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By *itchfieldMan
over a year ago

Portsmouth

People think ,oh yes, you can live with hiv now,,well you can live with a lot of things.

We MUST have more media public awareness campaigns for HIV in this country and i dont give a flying fuck who is upset about it."

Judging by the fact that we don't have the lowest teen pregnancy rate in Europe we don't have a great program of sex education. I couldn't agree more that we need to improve that from primary school kids up to geriatrics (I don't want to look it up but I'd bet the incidence of over 80's getting STD's is much higher than you'd guess).

Your point about people being irresponsible because you can live with it seems totally valid to me. In fact I just happened to watch a TED lecture on it today which said that in countries in Africa where you're not likely to reach 50 the thought of malaria is worse than the thought of a disease that'll take years to kill you. I'm sure there's a lot of people in this country who think that HIV wouldn't really affect their lives now but from what I understand just the regimen of drugs you have to take is a serious hassle.

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By *ancyDrewWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

I would be really interested to know how many of you have hiv tests regularly (if at all) and why not? Apart from owt else, you can't criticise or judge unless you know your status.

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

Thank heavens I only shagged 499 up there

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By *oxesMan
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

People think ,oh yes, you can live with hiv now,,well you can live with a lot of things.

We MUST have more media public awareness campaigns for HIV in this country and i dont give a flying fuck who is upset about it.

It came out today that we dont have one of the best fatility understanding either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did anyone watch the news about an urban area in leeds? They have made it legal for sex workers to work there. It is an experiment to see how it works and might expand to the rest of uk if it is successful.

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

derby

If watching hamster adult films or similar more folk in my opinion are bare back cream pies etc and with so much to see its alarming on almost a global scale if this lot back fires and hits people in the face there are going to be a lot of unhappy people around if listening to the statistics on here, and thats just in this country..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Thank heavens I only shagged 499 up there"

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