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"Like a lot of guys on this site I don't get much attention...but in the outside world I do get asked on dates quite a bit which is flattering....maybe I come across better in person than on a website. But in the last 2 months I haven't taken things further with 4 ladies because not 1 of them wanted me to use condoms....all the ladies were between 35 and 45....I find it a little worrying ...or am I just being to over cautious....would love some feedback on this." only you know what's best for you | |||
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"don't judge and do only what you want to do ...easy " sense....roulette was mentioned | |||
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"Like a lot of guys on this site I don't get much attention...but in the outside world I do get asked on dates quite a bit which is flattering....maybe I come across better in person than on a website. But in the last 2 months I haven't taken things further with 4 ladies because not 1 of them wanted me to use condoms....all the ladies were between 35 and 45....I find it a little worrying ...or am I just being to over cautious....would love some feedback on this." What worries you about it? | |||
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"If they want to play roulette with their lives it's up to them, you stick to your rules - at least until you know them Sara" 2nd post for the Russian roulette! That's got to be the record there!! | |||
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"If they want to play roulette with their lives it's up to them, you stick to your rules - at least until you know them Sara 2nd post for the Russian roulette! That's got to be the record there!!" Haha. That was my thought exactly. At least it was a proper game of roulette this time, rather than Russian. Though if you're just getting on colour then your odds and just below 50:50 vs. The 30-ish to one on a number. Maybe accounts for subgroups of people you might meet from? :D | |||
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"From an article in a newspaper this week condom sales in general are basically in decline and there still a stigma about buying them and this was an article which condom makers durex had a big input in. Think with porn being so easily available to view the youngsters of today see it as the norm to not wear a condom. " Go to the GUM clinic tell them you're a swinger and come out with double the number of condoms for free. | |||
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"I always wear all 3 condoms from the packet. That's just how safe i am." That is not how one spells 'stupid'; xxx | |||
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"In the 10 years before Mrs J and I got together we both played the field pretty extensively. Not once in all that time did I ever come across a woman who suggested condoms. This was across all walks of life including doctors, nurses, lawyers, lapdancers and stay at home moms. Mrs J had a similar experience with guys Neither of us got an Std in that whole period. Not making any wild claims here. Just saying. We now sleep with fewer strangers now that we are swinging than ever before." Yep, tend to agree with this, of course everyone knows condoms are the safest way, but from our experience a very low percentage use them. | |||
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"Only time we bareback is with each other after twenty year married think we safe lol ,our health is more important than not to be safe " Have you developed immunity after 20 years? | |||
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"herpes can come along at any time, it's in your system... It just chooses to come out when you are feeling down... It can be caught by sexual contact if it's ripe! lol You can go on a course of antibiotics over 12 months that will get rid! So i'm told by the clap man" Herpes is a virus, antibiotics won't touch it, they act on bacteria. Anti viral drugs might help get rid of an attack a bit quicker, but nothing cures or prevents it completely. | |||
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"herpes can come along at any time, it's in your system... It just chooses to come out when you are feeling down... It can be caught by sexual contact if it's ripe! lol You can go on a course of antibiotics over 12 months that will get rid! So i'm told by the clap man Herpes is a virus, antibiotics won't touch it, they act on bacteria. Anti viral drugs might help get rid of an attack a bit quicker, but nothing cures or prevents it completely. " The last time I was at the clinic, he gave me a course of 5 days of pills to sort it... I asked if I had to confront the wife and he said NO, it can happen!!! He even advised that I should avoid sex even with a condom as it won't stop spreading the infection... This is only what he told me... Guess what, I'm still living!! | |||
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"if the herpes come back often, that is when the put you on the 12 month course" Your clap man is wrong. There's absolutely no point giving antibiotics for a virus. It's like taking a jellybaby for a headache - useless. Google it if you don't. believe me. Oh and change your doctor!! | |||
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"if the herpes come back often, that is when the put you on the 12 month course" "Genital herpes virus is passed from one person to another through sexual contact. This happens even if the person with the virus doesn't have symptoms or signs of infection. Once the virus enters through the skin, it travels along nerve paths. It may become dormant (inactive) in the nerves and remain there indefinitely. From time to time, the virus may become active. When that happens, the virus travels back along the nerve path to the surface of the skin, where additional virus is shed. At this point the virus may cause an outbreak of symptoms. Or it may remain undetected. In either case, the active virus is easily passed from one partner to another through sexual contact. Even wearing a condom may not protect the uninfected partner. The virus can be present on skin that remains uncovered. The number of recurrences or outbreaks a person can have may vary." Brake fluid will be as effective a 'cure' as antibiotics will be | |||
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"herpes can come along at any time, it's in your system... It just chooses to come out when you are feeling down... It can be caught by sexual contact if it's ripe! lol You can go on a course of antibiotics over 12 months that will get rid! So i'm told by the clap man Herpes is a virus, antibiotics won't touch it, they act on bacteria. Anti viral drugs might help get rid of an attack a bit quicker, but nothing cures or prevents it completely. The last time I was at the clinic, he gave me a course of 5 days of pills to sort it... I asked if I had to confront the wife and he said NO, it can happen!!! He even advised that I should avoid sex even with a condom as it won't stop spreading the infection... This is only what he told me... Guess what, I'm still living!!" You were given antiviral drugs not antibiotics, and quite frankly not telling your wife is irresponsible. Of course youre still living, its not life threatening, unless you are immuno supressed, or a baby etc, then it can be. It amazes me tha ignorance on here, even from people that have had it and had treatment. | |||
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"if the herpes come back often, that is when the put you on the 12 month course Your clap man is wrong. There's absolutely no point giving antibiotics for a virus. It's like taking a jellybaby for a headache - useless. Google it if you don't. believe me. Oh and change your doctor!!" tbh, they might not be antibiotics, they are some sort of pills... Maybe he is wrong, I'm only saying what I believe he advised me to do... I've held my hands up and said I've had an STI, maybe somebody has the courage and been on the 12 month course and can sed more light on this matter??? | |||
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"if the herpes come back often, that is when the put you on the 12 month course Your clap man is wrong. There's absolutely no point giving antibiotics for a virus. It's like taking a jellybaby for a headache - useless. Google it if you don't. believe me. Oh and change your doctor!! tbh, they might not be antibiotics, they are some sort of pills... Maybe he is wrong, I'm only saying what I believe he advised me to do... I've held my hands up and said I've had an STI, maybe somebody has the courage and been on the 12 month course and can sed more light on this matter???" Cold sores around the mouth are caused by the herpes simplex virus. It is quite common, and can be transmitted by kissing, unless of-course, one uses a condom Zovirax Is an antiviral cream which can ease the symptoms but it is not a cure. Infact, there is no cure for herpes | |||
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"In the 10 years before Mrs J and I got together we both played the field pretty extensively. Not once in all that time did I ever come across a woman who suggested condoms. This was across all walks of life including doctors, nurses, lawyers, lapdancers and stay at home moms. Mrs J had a similar experience with guys Neither of us got an Std in that whole period. Not making any wild claims here. Just saying. We now sleep with fewer strangers now that we are swinging than ever before." Nice fair and balanced post | |||
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"These threads always make me laugh at the sanctimonious attitudes abounding on Fab about STIs. How many of those who say they NEVER go bareback and won't consider anyone who does thinks of all the possible permutations? Group sex in particular tends to make the use of condoms almost pointless. Why? How many of you use dental dams or condoms during oral? How many wear gloves for fingering? How many put condoms on toys? Even if you do how many change them EVERY time you take the relevant appendage out of one partner before putting it in another? Unless you're doing all these things you're no safer than going bareback during group sex. Even if you do the likes of HPV and herpes can still be transmitted. Not to mention that if you have a cold and pass it on then that's technically an STI but no one gets holier-than-thou about catching a cold at an orgy, do they? What's the real difference? " Well said that man | |||
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"I'm with the majority here, condoms are a must. Don't get me wrong it's like taking a bath in your socks, but I'd far rather my knob didn't fall off " OMG that is scary! What STI causes your nob to fall off? | |||
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"I'm with the majority here, condoms are a must. Don't get me wrong it's like taking a bath in your socks, but I'd far rather my knob didn't fall off OMG that is scary! What STI causes your nob to fall off? " people just don't half like to exaggerate when it comes to bareback | |||
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"I'm with the majority here, condoms are a must. Don't get me wrong it's like taking a bath in your socks, but I'd far rather my knob didn't fall off OMG that is scary! What STI causes your nob to fall off? people just don't half like to exaggerate when it comes to bareback" yes they sure do | |||
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"I'm with the majority here, condoms are a must. Don't get me wrong it's like taking a bath in your socks, but I'd far rather my knob didn't fall off OMG that is scary! What STI causes your nob to fall off? people just don't half like to exaggerate when it comes to bareback yes they sure do " Really? OMG! I hear leprosy causes bits to drop off. Perhaps that should be redesignated a STI? | |||
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"I'm with the majority here, condoms are a must. Don't get me wrong it's like taking a bath in your socks, but I'd far rather my knob didn't fall off OMG that is scary! What STI causes your nob to fall off? " STI of the mind. | |||
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" OMG that is scary! What STI causes your nob to fall off? " An angry, axe wielding husband coming home early?? | |||
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" OMG that is scary! What STI causes your nob to fall off? An angry, axe wielding husband coming home early??" | |||
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"Like a lot of guys on this site I don't get much attention...but in the outside world I do get asked on dates quite a bit which is flattering....maybe I come across better in person than on a website. But in the last 2 months I haven't taken things further with 4 ladies because not 1 of them wanted me to use condoms....all the ladies were between 35 and 45....I find it a little worrying ...or am I just being to over cautious....would love some feedback on this." I've encountered lots of men that don't have condoms. I don't really care if that means they bareback or not. I always take my own and wouldn't use anyone else's anyway. | |||
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"Condoms if not a regular " What if you are one of 6 regulars he has? | |||
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"Condoms if not a regular What if you are one of 6 regulars he has?" Surely he wouldn't be lying? | |||
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"If they want to play roulette with their lives it's up to them, you stick to your rules - at least until you know them Sara" That's the thing though, they're not playing "roulette with their lives". There are no STIs that are life threatening if treated, may not get rid of them, but they're manageable. Even those diagnosed with HIV can still live for decades. This may explain why those that play bareback do what they do. | |||
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"These threads always make me laugh at the sanctimonious attitudes abounding on Fab about STIs. How many of those who say they NEVER go bareback and won't consider anyone who does thinks of all the possible permutations? Group sex in particular tends to make the use of condoms almost pointless. Why? How many of you use dental dams or condoms during oral? How many wear gloves for fingering? How many put condoms on toys? Even if you do how many change them EVERY time you take the relevant appendage out of one partner before putting it in another? Unless you're doing all these things you're no safer than going bareback during group sex. Even if you do the likes of HPV and herpes can still be transmitted. Not to mention that if you have a cold and pass it on then that's technically an STI but no one gets holier-than-thou about catching a cold at an orgy, do they? What's the real difference? " All valid points. | |||
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"Like a lot of guys on this site I don't get much attention...but in the outside world I do get asked on dates quite a bit which is flattering....maybe I come across better in person than on a website. But in the last 2 months I haven't taken things further with 4 ladies because not 1 of them wanted me to use condoms....all the ladies were between 35 and 45....I find it a little worrying ...or am I just being to over cautious....would love some feedback on this." Because those ladies were from vanilla life, they probably didn't have multiple partners, and probably didn't realise that you may have had multiple partners. Not that I'm defending, but in vanilla life perceived risk is much lower that in swinging life, because of the naive assumption that everybody is being faithful. And let's face it we all take calculated risks every day in all aspects of life. | |||
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"These threads always make me laugh at the sanctimonious attitudes abounding on Fab about STIs. How many of those who say they NEVER go bareback and won't consider anyone who does thinks of all the possible permutations? Group sex in particular tends to make the use of condoms almost pointless. Why? How many of you use dental dams or condoms during oral? How many wear gloves for fingering? How many put condoms on toys? Even if you do how many change them EVERY time you take the relevant appendage out of one partner before putting it in another? Unless you're doing all these things you're no safer than going bareback during group sex. Even if you do the likes of HPV and herpes can still be transmitted. Not to mention that if you have a cold and pass it on then that's technically an STI but no one gets holier-than-thou about catching a cold at an orgy, do they? What's the real difference? " Quite agree. A lot of swingers don't realise that chlamydia can be passed on by fingers. Obviously not a worry for those who only do private meets. But what about those who enjoy group sex and orgies? One could catch chlamydia from just having three women playing, no penetration. Nobody wears condoms on their hands do they? | |||
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" Go to the GUM clinic tell them you're a swinger and come out with double the number of condoms for free." Going to try this... But unsure they will believe me when I tell them about my sexual history lol | |||
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" Go to the GUM clinic tell them you're a swinger and come out with double the number of condoms for free. Going to try this... But unsure they will believe me when I tell them about my sexual history lol " When I had my first sexual health screen since becoming a swinger, they seemed really shocked when I told them. It was as though they had never dealt with swingers before, which I find hard to believe. But maybe others don't tell them their lifestyle. Good thing is that they always kit me out with plenty of latex free condoms | |||
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"Like a lot of guys on this site I don't get much attention...but in the outside world I do get asked on dates quite a bit which is flattering....maybe I come across better in person than on a website. But in the last 2 months I haven't taken things further with 4 ladies because not 1 of them wanted me to use condoms....all the ladies were between 35 and 45....I find it a little worrying ...or am I just being to over cautious....would love some feedback on this." Even though not one of them 'wanted' to use condoms are you sure they wouldn't have been ok for you to use them if you had asked nicely or was it a blunt no bareback no sex ? Doggy style and slip the condom on | |||
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"Like a lot of guys on this site I don't get much attention...but in the outside world I do get asked on dates quite a bit which is flattering....maybe I come across better in person than on a website. But in the last 2 months I haven't taken things further with 4 ladies because not 1 of them wanted me to use condoms....all the ladies were between 35 and 45....I find it a little worrying ...or am I just being to over cautious....would love some feedback on this." maybe they dont have sex regular with not swinging so dont feel they need condoms im not saying its right or wrong but doing this does make you more awear of the risks | |||
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"Personal choice but stds so are one thing. Maybe they want ur babies." The majority of women I've had a relationship with very quickly got tound to saying they wanted a baby. Most hated condoms and those on the pill very soon talked about coming off it. I have so often heard them say "Go for it" or "Fill me up" or words to that effect. I'm not surprised that single parent familes seem to be the majority down here in London. | |||
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"But there is no cure for herpes. Or is there ? " Nope and even if u don't have symptoms u can be a shedder | |||
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"But there is no cure for herpes. Or is there ? Nope and even if u don't have symptoms u can be a shedder" Same with cold sores. So, who would admit to having a cold sore? And now who would admit to herpes? See, STIs are far more scary. | |||
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"In my experience of catching STIs, I find them not too bad lol... I've had chlamydia twice, warts and herpes... You just start to get a few symptoms and then get yourself off to the Docs to be cleared up... No harm done.. I appreciate there's a risk of dying from AIDS......." I bet your inbox is now full of meet requests! | |||
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"These chats always follow the same template. Single guy posts, saying how loads of women offer it to him on a plate but he has to heroically turn them down as they all insist on bareback! Couples retort with how they respect decisions of others and to do whats right for you. A few joke about roulette. Other single guys think it will up their chances of a meet by proclaiming they would never go bareback "their health is worth far to much to them" or something similar. Couples chuckle at the above posts as they see it all the time, but probably have had over a 100 messages from guys offering bareback despite profile saying safe sex and their posts in the forums. And then finally couples like us come along who enjoy bareback, but will play however the right people want to, a couple who will now go on to receive PM from the single guys in the forum saying how special we are and that they will break their no bareback rule especially for us, if we would just consider meeting them!! All in all a well templated forum thread xxx" Made me smile - but more than a grain of truth in this! | |||
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"These threads always make me laugh at the sanctimonious attitudes abounding on Fab about STIs. How many of those who say they NEVER go bareback and won't consider anyone who does thinks of all the possible permutations? Group sex in particular tends to make the use of condoms almost pointless. Why? How many of you use dental dams or condoms during oral? How many wear gloves for fingering? How many put condoms on toys? Even if you do how many change them EVERY time you take the relevant appendage out of one partner before putting it in another? Unless you're doing all these things you're no safer than going bareback during group sex. Even if you do the likes of HPV and herpes can still be transmitted. Not to mention that if you have a cold and pass it on then that's technically an STI but no one gets holier-than-thou about catching a cold at an orgy, do they? What's the real difference? " | |||
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"I think the reason why so many folk go bareback is, despite the Russian roulette claims, there is no STI you can catch that is actually life threatening, if treated/caught early. The barebackers who get regularly checked are perhaps in a better position than the condomers who rarely do. And yes, condoms with regular checkups is the best way to go but I honestly doubt most on this site fall into that category." Hep C will kill you & is far worse than HIV in the fact they can't treat you, thankfully its not as common as most viruses. There are some new super strength STD's which are treatable but take years rather than weeks to cure so it is a battlefield out there if you are clued up or never get tested. Those who use condoms & never get checked are as high risk as barebackers that do have regular check ups, everyone should be checked if they are having regular sex with strangers condoms or not at least every 3 months. I'm tested every 28 days & have been so for at least the last 14 yrs, i bareback with other monthly certed people for work purposes but have to always condom up when swinging as swingers are far riskier as hardly any get regular check ups. It is inconvenient & some might get embarrassed to get regularly tested but if as people we want to have illicit sex with strangers we have to be reasonable about it. | |||
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"I always wear all 3 condoms from the packet. That's just how safe i am." That - topped with a bin bag for extra security - is my minimum requirement when playing with strangers. Strangely, I don't get many offers.... | |||
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"Like a lot of guys on this site I don't get much attention...but in the outside world I do get asked on dates quite a bit which is flattering....maybe I come across better in person than on a website. But in the last 2 months I haven't taken things further with 4 ladies because not 1 of them wanted me to use condoms....all the ladies were between 35 and 45....I find it a little worrying ...or am I just being to over cautious....would love some feedback on this. What worries you about it? " Kids or STi s | |||
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"Like a lot of guys on this site I don't get much attention...but in the outside world I do get asked on dates quite a bit which is flattering....maybe I come across better in person than on a website. But in the last 2 months I haven't taken things further with 4 ladies because not 1 of them wanted me to use condoms....all the ladies were between 35 and 45....I find it a little worrying ...or am I just being to over cautious....would love some feedback on this." We're the opposite in that we shot bareback hardcore material with other certed pro adult workers & use condoms for swinging. You as a person have a choice to decide what you do & how safe you are doing it. | |||
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