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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Does anyone else worry about Meeting someone that's not verified? Or is it just me that's paranoid?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't be keen.

But you are paranoid

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I wouldn't be keen.

But you are paranoid "

That's cuz there's loads of nutters on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm guessing someone met you before you were verified by meet op?

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By *anklerMan
over a year ago

Suffolk

Depends how long they've been on here. If it's a few months or over a year with no veris then I wouldn't meet them

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By *omguyMan
over a year ago

Romford

Bit of a catch 22, how do you get verified without a meet.

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By *ittleminxyoungWoman
over a year ago

Hull


"Depends how long they've been on here. If it's a few months or over a year with no veris then I wouldn't meet them"

Agrees..especially couples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm always worried that the single men might be women pretending to be men..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i am verified but dont like it as when your a new cummer u dont get given a chance. and everyone has to start somewhere...trust is there to b lost

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm guessing someone met you before you were verified by meet op? "

Yeah course I get your point,double standards i suppose.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"i am verified but dont like it as when your a new cummer u dont get given a chance. and everyone has to start somewhere...trust is there to b lost"

True

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By *anklerMan
over a year ago

Suffolk


"I'm always worried that the single men might be women pretending to be men.."

It does happen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, not at all, remember everyone started out as a unverified, bet no one complained then lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We don't meet if not verified. Our free time is too lacking to waste, as it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im having this problem trying to meet ppl with no verification alout of ppl just ignore me, shame really, minority of nutters spoil it for the genuine ppl i can fully understand why tho you dont know who it is the other side of a keyboard

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm guessing someone met you before you were verified by meet op?

Yeah course I get your point,double standards i suppose. "

I think your right to some degree..maybe approach the unverified with more caution but perhaps don't write them off.

Everyone starts some place It's your account/choice though so use the site as you will

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We don't meet if not verified. Our free time is too lacking to waste, as it is."
i respect your views but.my time has been wasted by more people that are verified than not vefified. i think i should take everyone at face value if they fuck up then bye bye x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have met one Lady that wasn't verified, glad we did as we now see her regularly.

However a lot of unverified accounts pop up and then go UNLOS after a few days, and a lot of verified users don't turn up for meets from what people say on the forums.

Guess you just have to go with gut instinct and treat the veri's as another price in the puzzle of if they are worth meeting.

Don't forget veri's can also be faked.

Good luck OP.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"We don't meet if not verified. Our free time is too lacking to waste, as it is."

I think this is a big factor for me too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We don't meet if not verified. Our free time is too lacking to waste, as it is. i respect your views but.my time has been wasted by more people that are verified than not vefified. i think i should take everyone at face value if they fuck up then bye bye x"

If that works for you, then great.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have met one Lady that wasn't verified, glad we did as we now see her regularly.

However a lot of unverified accounts pop up and then go UNLOS after a few days, and a lot of verified users don't turn up for meets from what people say on the forums.

Guess you just have to go with gut instinct and treat the veri's as another price in the puzzle of if they are worth meeting.

Don't forget veri's can also be faked.

Good luck OP. "

Piece not prize, damn predictive text

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"We have met one Lady that wasn't verified, glad we did as we now see her regularly.

However a lot of unverified accounts pop up and then go UNLOS after a few days, and a lot of verified users don't turn up for meets from what people say on the forums.

Guess you just have to go with gut instinct and treat the veri's as another price in the puzzle of if they are worth meeting.

Don't forget veri's can also be faked.

Good luck OP. "

Thanks

It's hard when you're chatting to someone that comes across very nice but not verified

There's always that nagging doubt.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm guessing someone met you before you were verified by meet op?

Yeah course I get your point,double standards i suppose.

I think your right to some degree..maybe approach the unverified with more caution but perhaps don't write them off.

Everyone starts some place It's your account/choice though so use the site as you will "

Good advice thank you x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have met one Lady that wasn't verified, glad we did as we now see her regularly.

However a lot of unverified accounts pop up and then go UNLOS after a few days, and a lot of verified users don't turn up for meets from what people say on the forums.

Guess you just have to go with gut instinct and treat the veri's as another price in the puzzle of if they are worth meeting.

Don't forget veri's can also be faked.

Good luck OP.

Thanks

It's hard when you're chatting to someone that comes across very nice but not verified

There's always that nagging doubt."

Yes the doubt is always there, try not to send face pics or give any details away.

I would suggest arranging a social meet at a pub you know well and ask a mate to go with you but sit on another table.

That way if they show all good, but you have an easy exit if they aren't what you want.

If they don't show you get a night out with your friend, win win.

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By *manda63Woman
over a year ago

Southampton

If someone hadn't met me on my single profile as a unverified lady, Im not sure if I would be here now.

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By *uperock99Man
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

The thing is, it is tricky to guess if they are genuine or not by not being verified, they might chat nicely to you but as far as I know could be a man pretending to be woman or something like that & also if they been on here for ages and not verified the chances are you will be waisting your time & those that put up a meet for tonight but not verified in over a year make me laugh cause I think who you trying to kid !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We're not verified because we are very slow starters and have spent a lot of time getting to know what's available.

I hope this doesn't mean we'll never find someone to meet us and pop our swinging cherry.

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By *uperock99Man
over a year ago

Milton Keynes


"We're not verified because we are very slow starters and have spent a lot of time getting to know what's available.

I hope this doesn't mean we'll never find someone to meet us and pop our swinging cherry. "

having your picture verified is a good start, 8 weeks so far is not too long I guess

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By *ruegent101Man
over a year ago

down by the river side

Not hard to get verified on cam etc but it is hard trying to get meets with no veri's definately !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not verified but it's not for the want of trying !!! I just keep going for the wrong blokes that bottle it at the last minute

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What about too much meat and too many Veris

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By *ruegent101Man
over a year ago

down by the river side

You'll get a meet soon enough !! To many timewasters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

not many unverifed single fems on fab

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"not many unverifed single fems on fab "

If I dropped my standards I'd have loads .... but I won't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"not many unverifed single fems on fab

If I dropped my standards I'd have loads .... but I won't "

I never said you would

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"not many unverifed single fems on fab

If I dropped my standards I'd have loads .... but I won't

I never said you would

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I know. I was just saying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"not many unverifed single fems on fab

If I dropped my standards I'd have loads .... but I won't

I never said you would

I know. I was just saying "

I must have no standards thou as i have 4 meets. Or im just a slag

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I prefer to meet people with no previous verifications. More often then not people's verifications end up putting me off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We don't meet if not verified. Our free time is too lacking to waste, as it is. i respect your views but.my time has been wasted by more people that are verified than not vefified. i think i should take everyone at face value if they fuck up then bye bye x"

exactly the same for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not verified but it's not for the want of trying !!! I just keep going for the wrong blokes that bottle it at the last minute "

They must be mental

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"We don't meet if not verified. Our free time is too lacking to waste, as it is. i respect your views but.my time has been wasted by more people that are verified than not vefified. i think i should take everyone at face value if they fuck up then bye bye x"

When you say your time has been wasted, do you mean you were stood up at an arranged meet?

If you're talking about spending time to chat to potential meets, then that's spending time, not wasting it...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

depends how long theve been on site with no verification and i certainly wont waste my time on someone whos been a member for over a year without any simply cos of the amount of time wasting dreamers fab seems to attract

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By *eximableWoman
over a year ago

over the rainbow

I don't think it shud be down to varis as I've met some people that have brill varis and turn out to be absolute knobs so i like to do the whole social thing first plus if u read people's varis ud think we were all porn stars with some of the write ups

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I prefer to meet people with no previous verifications. More often then not people's verifications end up putting me off. "

Same here

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Does anyone else worry about Meeting someone that's not verified? Or is it just me that's paranoid? "

The day I rely on total strangers to decide whether I meet another total stranger is the day I take myself off to Maudsley.

I met my partner on here: unverified!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"i am verified but dont like it as when your a new cummer u dont get given a chance. and everyone has to start somewhere...trust is there to b lost"

Some people are able to decide for themselves and don't care less about verifications.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've met unverified people before and it was fine. I've been stood up by someone with loads of verifications. If you're really concerned, why not arrange to meet them somewhere in public that's not out of your way, like a coffee at lunchtime, so there's no harm done if they're not who they say or they don't turn up.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Im having this problem trying to meet ppl with no verification alout of ppl just ignore me, shame really, minority of nutters spoil it for the genuine ppl i can fully understand why tho you dont know who it is the other side of a keyboard "

Do you think being verified immediately makes you safe and reliable?!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've met unverified people before and it was fine. I've been stood up by someone with loads of verifications. If you're really concerned, why not arrange to meet them somewhere in public that's not out of your way, like a coffee at lunchtime, so there's no harm done if they're not who they say or they don't turn up."

Anyone ever turned up being 5.8 and not 5.10 lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Im having this problem trying to meet ppl with no verification alout of ppl just ignore me, shame really, minority of nutters spoil it for the genuine ppl i can fully understand why tho you dont know who it is the other side of a keyboard

Do you think being verified immediately makes you safe and reliable?!! "

I think it just makes me a bit more comfortable knowing that they've met someone else and that person survived

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im having this problem trying to meet ppl with no verification alout of ppl just ignore me, shame really, minority of nutters spoil it for the genuine ppl i can fully understand why tho you dont know who it is the other side of a keyboard

Do you think being verified immediately makes you safe and reliable?!!

I think it just makes me a bit more comfortable knowing that they've met someone else and that person survived "

You would survive meeting me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You have got to remember when you joined you didn't have any verifications. You should at least give them a chance x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is why we only meet people for a social first now, we will play on a first meet but we only meet out at a pub or restaurant. That way if they don't show then at least we can enjoy a drink or meal together.

I guess it is different for a single woman or man though, unless you enjoy being out on your own. But it still makes you less vulnerable for weirdos turning up at your door or you at theirs!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've met unverified people before and it was fine. I've been stood up by someone with loads of verifications. If you're really concerned, why not arrange to meet them somewhere in public that's not out of your way, like a coffee at lunchtime, so there's no harm done if they're not who they say or they don't turn up.

Anyone ever turned up being 5.8 and not 5.10 lol "

They wouldn't dare

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Im having this problem trying to meet ppl with no verification alout of ppl just ignore me, shame really, minority of nutters spoil it for the genuine ppl i can fully understand why tho you dont know who it is the other side of a keyboard

Do you think being verified immediately makes you safe and reliable?!!

I think it just makes me a bit more comfortable knowing that they've met someone else and that person survived

You would survive meeting me "

Lol but would you survive meeting me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've met unverified people before and it was fine. I've been stood up by someone with loads of verifications. If you're really concerned, why not arrange to meet them somewhere in public that's not out of your way, like a coffee at lunchtime, so there's no harm done if they're not who they say or they don't turn up.

Anyone ever turned up being 5.8 and not 5.10 lol

They wouldn't dare "

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester


"I wouldn't be keen.

But you are paranoid

That's cuz there's loads of nutters on here "

And many of them are verified by meet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im having this problem trying to meet ppl with no verification alout of ppl just ignore me, shame really, minority of nutters spoil it for the genuine ppl i can fully understand why tho you dont know who it is the other side of a keyboard

Do you think being verified immediately makes you safe and reliable?!!

I think it just makes me a bit more comfortable knowing that they've met someone else and that person survived

You would survive meeting me

Lol but would you survive meeting me "

Be a good way to go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not verified but it's not for the want of trying !!! I just keep going for the wrong blokes that bottle it at the last minute

They must be mental "

At least someone benefitted from my outfit and enjoyed the attention

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I wouldn't be keen.

But you are paranoid

That's cuz there's loads of nutters on here

And many of them are verified by meet"

Yes lol you're probably right x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Im having this problem trying to meet ppl with no verification alout of ppl just ignore me, shame really, minority of nutters spoil it for the genuine ppl i can fully understand why tho you dont know who it is the other side of a keyboard

Do you think being verified immediately makes you safe and reliable?!!

I think it just makes me a bit more comfortable knowing that they've met someone else and that person survived

You would survive meeting me

Lol but would you survive meeting me

Be a good way to go "

Can't argue with that x

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"I wouldn't be keen.

But you are paranoid

That's cuz there's loads of nutters on here

And many of them are verified by meet"

Far more of them arent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im having this problem trying to meet ppl with no verification alout of ppl just ignore me, shame really, minority of nutters spoil it for the genuine ppl i can fully understand why tho you dont know who it is the other side of a keyboard

Do you think being verified immediately makes you safe and reliable?!!

I think it just makes me a bit more comfortable knowing that they've met someone else and that person survived

You would survive meeting me

Lol but would you survive meeting me

Be a good way to go

Can't argue with that x"

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By *ollarLeadRestrainMan
over a year ago

Aberdeen

I got verifyed on my first and only meet, with a lovely write-up only for her to Delete her account 7 days after deleting text also!

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester


"I wouldn't be keen.

But you are paranoid

That's cuz there's loads of nutters on here

And many of them are verified by meet

Far more of them arent"

My point is not having a verification does not make you a nutter, and having a verification does not preclude you from being a nutter. What is your point?

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

Not the slightest bit interested in verifications: never look for them or at them;

I trust my own judgement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some of my best meets have been with guys that wasn't verified. In fact they was more reliable than guys who was verified

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By *weeteamCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool

We were on here two years before a meet and then verified.When Zoe clicked with her choice , conversation followed between them then a meet.Don't recall time limits in the site rules.

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By *lighty1Woman
over a year ago

You Dont Need to Know, right now


"Not the slightest bit interested in verifications: never look for them or at them;

I trust my own judgement"

^^^ This, for me. Plus, a first meet is always social-only, in a public place, so I know I will be safe.

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By *ruegent101Man
over a year ago

down by the river side


"Not the slightest bit interested in verifications: never look for them or at them;

I trust my own judgement

^^^ This, for me. Plus, a first meet is always social-only, in a public place, so I know I will be safe."

Feeling safe is paramount ! Most certainly need to feel comfortable

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"I wouldn't be keen.

But you are paranoid

That's cuz there's loads of nutters on here

And many of them are verified by meet

Far more of them arent

My point is not having a verification does not make you a nutter, and having a verification does not preclude you from being a nutter. What is your point?"

Well of course that's true, though the term "nutter" is pretty vague and so subject to interpretation, ...it could be someone who has mildly annoyed you for instance which hardly deserves the nutter label,....

Nobody can say for certain how many of them are verified, or indeed if it's a large number...we have no idea., but one or more on the site have attested to their relative sanity so that's something of a filter.which is why it's highly likely there are more of them who are unverified..

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By *r jblMan
over a year ago

from parts unknown

You have to give people a chance.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I quite enjoy being someone's first verification.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have two rules:

1. No veri's no meet

2. If a Fabber has no Veris but is very good looking and promisees utter debauched filth on a first date with no need for a social, ignore rule No.1

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!

At times you need to make your own mind up about people,what's the worse that can happen

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"Not the slightest bit interested in verifications: never look for them or at them;

I trust my own judgement

^^^ This, for me. Plus, a first meet is always social-only, in a public place, so I know I will be safe.

Feeling safe is paramount ! Most certainly need to feel comfortable "

It's perhaps not so much what they say...I agree they can be quite lurid, but just the fact they exist, so, at least this person is who he says he is, and did turn up on those occasions....

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester


"I wouldn't be keen.

But you are paranoid

That's cuz there's loads of nutters on here

And many of them are verified by meet

Far more of them arent

My point is not having a verification does not make you a nutter, and having a verification does not preclude you from being a nutter. What is your point?

Well of course that's true, though the term "nutter" is pretty vague and so subject to interpretation, ...it could be someone who has mildly annoyed you for instance which hardly deserves the nutter label,....

Nobody can say for certain how many of them are verified, or indeed if it's a large number...we have no idea., but one or more on the site have attested to their relative sanity so that's something of a filter.which is why it's highly likely there are more of them who are unverified.. "

You're overthinking it...

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"[Removed by poster at 25/02/16 17:18:46]"

Well actually I was asked what my point was, and I explained what it is.

I think a good few could be said to be overthinking things on this thread.

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!


"At times you need to make your own mind up about people,what's the worse that can happen "

Actually that's probably a stupid thing go say after the recent news

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I must have no standards thou as i have 4 meets. Or im just a slag "

Only accepting site supporters is a standard

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By *azkinsWoman
over a year ago

leeds

i have only one verification but i had met a few people before i was verified.they chose not to verify me for watever reason.So dont assume they havent met anyone its not always the case.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At times you need to make your own mind up about people,what's the worse that can happen

Actually that's probably a stupid thing go say after the recent news"

Recent news?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have no problem meeting someone who isn't verified.

I meet everyone for the first time in a public place that is easy for me to get home from.

I wouldn't use someone else's verifications as a way of making sure I was safe when meeting someone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's hilarious when people won't meet unverified people. I wonder how they manage to get through life without someone holding their handy pandy.

Aww bless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've meet some fantastic young single non verified men!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And to add to that I've been stood up by some single young verified men!

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!


"At times you need to make your own mind up about people,what's the worse that can happen

Actually that's probably a stupid thing go say after the recent news

Recent news?"

The guy who met five women from a dating site I think it was and raped them.

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By *weeteamCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool


"I think it's hilarious when people won't meet unverified people. I wonder how they manage to get through life without someone holding their handy pandy.

Aww bless. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If she isn't showing any verifications I always ask to see them even before sending a face pic, I doubt I would meet a Woman/couple who hasn't had a meet before unless it was at a club

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover

Veris for men = they did turn up then

Veris for women = they're women

There.

That's not overthinking it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Veris for men = they did turn up then

Veris for women = they're women

There.

That's not overthinking it."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does anyone else worry about Meeting someone that's not verified? Or is it just me that's paranoid? "

I met a guy late last year who had just one cam veri. We've met three more times since

Sometimes it's worth it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does anyone else worry about Meeting someone that's not verified? Or is it just me that's paranoid? "

Tell you what- send em to me and if they are any good- I'll pass em back, honest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is pretty hilarious that people take the word of a stranger whether to meet another stranger

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By *r missCouple
over a year ago

south wales

What really gets to me is the fact people dont even bother photo verify themselves. I mean it takes 2 mins ffs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maibe it would be a good idea if they took away the veri system, then everyone would be on the same level lol.

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"It is pretty hilarious that people take the word of a stranger whether to meet another stranger "

Why should the verifying stranger lie though...?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maibe it would be a good idea if they took away the veri system, then everyone would be on the same level lol."

I agree. I think they are overrated and can be faked. I'd rather make my own mind up about a person and not go on the word of a complete stranger who probably doesn't know them from Adam anyway!

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"Maibe it would be a good idea if they took away the veri system, then everyone would be on the same level lol."

Well then we'd all be back to square one.

Clueless and getting fooled by fakes and no shows...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maibe it would be a good idea if they took away the veri system, then everyone would be on the same level lol.

Well then we'd all be back to square one.

Clueless and getting fooled by fakes and no shows..."

Verified people can be fake and no show.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maibe it would be a good idea if they took away the veri system, then everyone would be on the same level lol.

Well then we'd all be back to square one.

Clueless and getting fooled by fakes and no shows..."

It works on other sites tho, this is the only one that got the veri system.

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"Maibe it would be a good idea if they took away the veri system, then everyone would be on the same level lol.

I agree. I think they are overrated and can be faked. I'd rather make my own mind up about a person and not go on the word of a complete stranger who probably doesn't know them from Adam anyway!"

Yes, but unlike Adam, did actually meet them, ...and got to know them quite intimately as it goes...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doesnt matter to me if they are verified or not, can usually tell if they are going to waste my time after a couple of messages.

Had the pleasure of being the first meet and verification for a couple of couples, we've all got to start somewhere

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maibe it would be a good idea if they took away the veri system, then everyone would be on the same level lol.

I agree. I think they are overrated and can be faked. I'd rather make my own mind up about a person and not go on the word of a complete stranger who probably doesn't know them from Adam anyway!"

That is right and as well, no one would display a bad meet either.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Maibe it would be a good idea if they took away the veri system, then everyone would be on the same level lol.

Well then we'd all be back to square one.

Clueless and getting fooled by fakes and no shows..."

All the no shows I've had on this site were verified guys. Its no guarantee.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maibe it would be a good idea if they took away the veri system, then everyone would be on the same level lol.

I agree. I think they are overrated and can be faked. I'd rather make my own mind up about a person and not go on the word of a complete stranger who probably doesn't know them from Adam anyway!

Yes, but unlike Adam, did actually meet them, ...and got to know them quite intimately as it goes..."

You still don't know them if it was a one off meet and just because someone got on with them doesn't necessarily mean you will. Gut instinct is my way of sorting who to meet.

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover

Phew...

I feel like Jet-Li, Bruce Lee, or Steven Segal fighting single handed against these attacks on the fab verification system...

Do feel welcome. To join in and assist anytime soon...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I met someone who wasn't verified a few months ago

Had a great time but I'd chatted a lot with him on the phone before hand,no alarm bells rang,he came across as sane and sensible so we met and I've met him again since then too

Certain things will put me off meeting someone,lack of verifications on its own isnt always one of the things

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Id prefer veeification to pics

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does anyone else worry about Meeting someone that's not verified? Or is it just me that's paranoid? "

im the same. had too many timewasters. go into message filters and turn off non verified people messaging you x

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

I wouldn't meet a man who have not been verified by atleast 3 different people; he may be a nutter and I don't want to be the one to discover that

I wouldn't meet a couple or a woman unless they have been verified by atleast a dozen different people as in all likelihood, that is a guy

Whether that is 'fair' or not is not my problem and neither do I want it to become my problem

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester


"Phew...

I feel like Jet-Li, Bruce Lee, or Steven Segal fighting single handed against these attacks on the fab verification system...

Do feel welcome. To join in and assist anytime soon..."

I don't think anyone is attacking the verification system. What some are saying is they rely on their own common sense and judgement when choosing whom they meet and won't make that decision based solely on a flawed system.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is pretty hilarious that people take the word of a stranger whether to meet another stranger

Why should the verifying stranger lie though...?"

They shouldn't but as others have said they've been stood up by verified people, using veris to decide whether to meet isn't a foolproof way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not verified and I respect the thoughts and observations above.

However I would suggest the risk isn't necessarily always greater with unverified newcomers.

I've been here 8 weeks and most of my time is browsing the forums as opposed to sending endless meet requests.

I'd only meet socially in public initially and a quick phone call to get a feel for the other party would be reassuring.

It's all about choice.

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"It is pretty hilarious that people take the word of a stranger whether to meet another stranger

Why should the verifying stranger lie though...?

They shouldn't but as others have said they've been stood up by verified people, using veris to decide whether to meet isn't a foolproof way."

It's not foolproof no, just like leaving your house all locked isn't a foolproof way of deterring burglars..houses get burgled....but it's a hell of a lot safer than leaving your doors unlocked, ...

Similarly you have some backup and some protection via previous experiences when using verifications...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They tend to be the biggest time wasters

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"They tend to be the biggest time wasters "

In what way have they wasted your time?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have two rules:

1. No veri's no meet

2. If a Fabber has no Veris but is very good looking and promisees utter debauched filth on a first date with no need for a social, ignore rule No.1"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chicken and egg scenario which is very frustrating for guys that are genuine and want to meet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We get so much grief for not being verified - called fake etc etc not sure why and people can be quite rude, especially as the Mr is down as Bi curious , it seems like all the time wasters spoil it for the genuine ones, we have had 4 failed meets due to single men with fake profiles just pic hunting which has put us off meeting any single males without veris, so can understand other peoples views of our profile - it's like going round in circles sometimes

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By *ecretgamesMan
over a year ago

the moon

Well just my two cents on it ... I've been stood up twice so far and both by veris ... Means nothing you just have to chat for a while and figure it out yourself!!

My two .... One was quickly arranged and spontaneous so I didn't really get time to chat properly.

The second we chatted for a few days and agreed to meet then .... Blanked the day before the meet and a no show.

It's all down to your own personal intuition really. You get a "feel" for somebody if you chat for a bit but still going to be left surprised and alone on occasions! That's just the way it is

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"Well just my two cents on it ... I've been stood up twice so far and both by veris ... Means nothing you just have to chat for a while and figure it out yourself!!

My two .... One was quickly arranged and spontaneous so I didn't really get time to chat properly.

The second we chatted for a few days and agreed to meet then .... Blanked the day before the meet and a no show.

It's all down to your own personal intuition really. You get a "feel" for somebody if you chat for a bit but still going to be left surprised and alone on occasions! That's just the way it is "

So did you meet the first one or not?

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By *ecretgamesMan
over a year ago

the moon

No didn't meet the first either unfortunately

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

People with verifications are a managed risk. Those without, are completely unknown variables

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"No didn't meet the first either unfortunately "

What happened with the first then? Did she not turn up?

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"People with verifications are a managed risk. Those without, are completely unknown variables"

That's very nicely put

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By *ecretgamesMan
over a year ago

the moon


"People with verifications are a managed risk. Those without, are completely unknown variables"

Very well said !!!!

She sent a message and cancelled G. Least I knew before hand but still annoying when I had arranged to be free.

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"People with verifications are a managed risk. Those without, are completely unknown variables

Very well said !!!!

She sent a message and cancelled G. Least I knew before hand but still annoying when I had arranged to be free."

Well verifications for a woman are mainly to prove she's not a bloke, but whether she'll turn up is still highly variable...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's difficult for genuine single men to get veris but where do you start if no one will meet you without ??!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People with verifications are a managed risk. Those without, are completely unknown variables"

Most of the Women I like live far away, I would have to book time of work and arrange accommodation so them having veris helps me make my mind up about them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Phew...

I feel like Jet-Li, Bruce Lee, or Steven Segal fighting single handed against these attacks on the fab verification system...

Do feel welcome. To join in and assist anytime soon...

I don't think anyone is attacking the verification system. What some are saying is they rely on their own common sense and judgement when choosing whom they meet and won't make that decision based solely on a flawed system. "

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"It's difficult for genuine single men to get veris but where do you start if no one will meet you without ??!"

A word of advice if you want to meet and get a veri.

Make sure your profile is as good as you can get it.

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By *ecretgamesMan
over a year ago

the moon

Yes a good profile is paramount and often over looked by most guys !!! You need to sell yourself in one degree but also need to be active. Here on the forums is a good place to be and you soon get an idea of who here is a genuine part of the community.

So for future meets I am looking at active forum users who seem chatty and those who have numerous veris. I've already chatted with some incredibly nice and very sexy people and hope to catch up in person very soon.

It's all about effort really !!! If your willing to put in the effort you will gain the rewards.

Women are conversationalists in most cases and if you wish to spend some fun times with a woman you first need to seduce her mind and appeal to her imagination. So introduction messages need to stand out, either by being fun, flirty, sensual or witty. Then maintain her interest with good flirty conversation and after that you will soon find yourself chatting !!!

Personally I laugh at the "Hi" with cock pic attached first messages!!! It's unoriginal and lazy and might on the rare occasion yield results but is mostly disrespectful. If a woman wants to see my cock she will either ask for a pic or will examine it up close and in person when she is bloody well ready to do so!!

While chatting though the ball is in your court and once you always respect a woman and treat her like the deserving princess she is you can end up having a lot of fun with a lot of stunningly beautiful people both inside and out. And most guys forget that the sexiest thing about any woman is her!!! It's her personality, imagination and her erotic mind that make for an exciting meet !!!

I have in my short time here come across many interesting people!! Women I'd love to meet, some to spend a night with and a few guys I'd love to sit down with and have a pint !! I hope some day that I will get to meet them, spoil them, make them laugh and enjoy their company!! And that's why I make an effort !!!

Veris have little or nothing to do with the effort I put in and are just a guide. While those I decided to chat with are active verified members here I reckon after chatting with them I'd still want to meet even if they had no veris!

Just my 50 cent on it all !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've had luck meeting girls and couples without verifications. Some have asked me not to leave a feedback comment. Usually we'll end up on kik to chat and they'll send pics through there.

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By *ecretgamesMan
over a year ago

the moon


"I've had luck meeting girls and couples without verifications. Some have asked me not to leave a feedback comment. Usually we'll end up on kik to chat and they'll send pics through there. "

Very true a lot of people won't have a veri since they simply don't want them !!

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over a year ago


"People with verifications are a managed risk. Those without, are completely unknown variables"

Agreed!

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"I've had luck meeting girls and couples without verifications. Some have asked me not to leave a feedback comment. Usually we'll end up on kik to chat and they'll send pics through there.

Very true a lot of people won't have a veri since they simply don't want them !!"

I've met many who simply aren't interested in giving or getting verifications.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've had luck meeting girls and couples without verifications. Some have asked me not to leave a feedback comment. Usually we'll end up on kik to chat and they'll send pics through there.

Very true a lot of people won't have a veri since they simply don't want them !!

I've met many who simply aren't interested in giving or getting verifications."

I'm not interested in them. I have one which I don't display to get me started in the forum and cannot receive them anyway because of my age filters which I'm not changing now. Some people are obsessed with them seemingly putting more importance on it than the actual meet, ie; need a meet to get verified. There used to be one guy on here that had around 200 and pretty much mentioned this on every thread he posted on which I found quite a turn off. I don't need to read a sexual performance review, I want to know the person is who they claim to be and that can be established by other means.

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

I think when a relatively new but unverified profile is prepared to be patient to meet but in the meantime chat on the phone is a good sign.

For me however, when a (female or coupke) profile, been on 3 months, only public photo is a thumbnail size one of female (stunning good looks) yet not even an admin veri ("flag"), won't show face pics of both, won't chat on phone and drags feet with excuses why not admin verified, but wants to meet me "tonight"... I run a mile...in opposite direction.

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By *irty Girty From No 30Woman
over a year ago

Burbage


"Does anyone else worry about Meeting someone that's not verified? Or is it just me that's paranoid? "

I wont meet anyone now thats not verified due to the amount of no shows I have had in the past.

I now attend a regular organised monthly social and tell any unverifieds if they want to meet me then to turn up at that event, as im already attending they arent wasting my time if they are no shows

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By *irty Girty From No 30Woman
over a year ago

Burbage


"Bit of a catch 22, how do you get verified without a meet."

By attending organised socials or going to clubs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I give up trying lifes to short lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just don't trust verifications as far as I can throw them anyway. A little while back there was a woman selling verifications for £20 via her escorting profile. How are any of the men she verified any safer or more reliable than those who didn't pay for one off a random?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does anyone else worry about Meeting someone that's not verified? Or is it just me that's paranoid? "

I'm verified.... just saying

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex


"I've had luck meeting girls and couples without verifications. Some have asked me not to leave a feedback comment. Usually we'll end up on kik to chat and they'll send pics through there.

Very true a lot of people won't have a veri since they simply don't want them !!

I've met many who simply aren't interested in giving or getting verifications."

It's up to the giver if they choose to give, I don't think people should have to ask for verifications.

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By *ancs MinxWoman
over a year ago

Burnley

We were all unverified once.....used my intuition and i have had no problems meeting unverified people at times.

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex


"I just don't trust verifications as far as I can throw them anyway. A little while back there was a woman selling verifications for £20 via her escorting profile. How are any of the men she verified any safer or more reliable than those who didn't pay for one off a random? "

Only £20? My that's a bargain, surely single women should offer them £100 each and couples should offer at £100 as £100 per head

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No not really. Just because you're unverified doesn't mean you don't meet or aren't "experienced" in nsa.

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex


"We were all unverified once.....used my intuition and i have had no problems meeting unverified people at times."

I don't personally know any lady or couple that will meet an unverified party (male, female or couple) and while I agree with your point we all started unverified, should the "verification olive branch" (by demographic) be extended by guys first or should ladies and couples be encouraged to "lower their standards" and give other unverified people a chance?

From a guy's perspective we are constantly being told "go to a social" and while this absolutely works (for myself and loads of other guys) should the same not be said to everyone and not just guys?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Just because someone is verified iy doesn't make them a nice person, it doesn't mean you will have a good time with them. Make your judgements based on your interactions with them not somebody else's.

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By *ancs MinxWoman
over a year ago

Burnley


"We were all unverified once.....used my intuition and i have had no problems meeting unverified people at times.

I don't personally know any lady or couple that will meet an unverified party (male, female or couple) and while I agree with your point we all started unverified, should the "verification olive branch" (by demographic) be extended by guys first or should ladies and couples be encouraged to "lower their standards" and give other unverified people a chance?

From a guy's perspective we are constantly being told "go to a social" and while this absolutely works (for myself and loads of other guys) should the same not be said to everyone and not just guys?"

i agree

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"We were all unverified once.....used my intuition and i have had no problems meeting unverified people at times.

I don't personally know any lady or couple that will meet an unverified party (male, female or couple) and while I agree with your point we all started unverified, should the "verification olive branch" (by demographic) be extended by guys first or should ladies and couples be encouraged to "lower their standards" and give other unverified people a chance?

From a guy's perspective we are constantly being told "go to a social" and while this absolutely works (for myself and loads of other guys) should the same not be said to everyone and not just guys?"

If the men stopped meeting unverified women then the need for women to also attend social events would increase

As it stands, there is no such need

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex


"Bit of a catch 22, how do you get verified without a meet.

By attending organised socials or going to clubs"

One if the other sites am on also encouraged this. Only problem at the time was the only "sanctioned" site socials were held at a club on couples only nights, and the guys told to "contact a lady going to see if she'd agree to pair up for the night" (even though there was no published guest list). The bug problem here was first time visitors to the club had to get membership including couples, and they could only attend the club together on that membership as though they were a legit couple.

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By *orgeouslyyoursWoman
over a year ago

essex just looking around

My opinion for what it's worth . If the person is genuine. . The newbies are always the best

Untainted by the site no bad experiences and genuinely here for fun .

At cougarsandcubs 80 per cent of guys are newbies and unverified and struggle to get meets. And without doubt some of the nicest fittest guys I've had the pleasure to meet.

9 years in the scene .. I know that a verification means nowt and a lot are falsely given or after a horney lust filled session

3 days later the person could be a right twat . Heard it a million times..

Take a gamble . Verified single guys can be a bit arrogant disresctful and fickle too . The tick dont mean a thing other than they are a male. . And people don't give bad verifications from bad experiences so you'd never know xxx

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex


"If the men stopped meeting unverified women then the need for women to also attend social events would increase

As it stands, there is no such need"

The only unverified profile I'm prepared to meet either has to have proof by webcam (usually in the chat room, privately if they prefer), or chat on the phone (not text/WhatsApp/Kik): something to prove they are who they say they are. If we've met socially but they were still unverified I have no problem there either.

I however don't accept, or give, webcam verifications: too many people walking around with only webcam verifications (no meet/social veris) yet saying "But I'm genuine". Also, too mnay guys falling for the " if you verify me that we've met, then I'll meet you " line.

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over a year ago


"I just don't trust verifications as far as I can throw them anyway. A little while back there was a woman selling verifications for £20 via her escorting profile. How are any of the men she verified any safer or more reliable than those who didn't pay for one off a random?

Only £20? My that's a bargain, surely single women should offer them £100 each and couples should offer at £100 as £100 per head "

I know, I could write a glowing review for £100, I'd struggle to squeeze out more than "cock to die for, hands off ladies he's mine" for £20

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"I just don't trust verifications as far as I can throw them anyway. A little while back there was a woman selling verifications for £20 via her escorting profile. How are any of the men she verified any safer or more reliable than those who didn't pay for one off a random? "

But it's a bit like saying that you don't trust any policeman after one or two cases of police corruption....

Really?

The entire police force?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I just don't trust verifications as far as I can throw them anyway. A little while back there was a woman selling verifications for £20 via her escorting profile. How are any of the men she verified any safer or more reliable than those who didn't pay for one off a random?

But it's a bit like saying that you don't trust any policeman after one or two cases of police corruption....

Really?

The entire police force?

"

Not really, just that it exposes how easily the system which so many seem to take as proof of reliability can be abused. I thought verifications were bollocks before that, and I think they're bollocks after it. If people need the opinion of someone else they don't know and have never met to determine whether it's ok for them to meet someone, they have bigger issues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I just don't trust verifications as far as I can throw them anyway. A little while back there was a woman selling verifications for £20 via her escorting profile. How are any of the men she verified any safer or more reliable than those who didn't pay for one off a random?

But it's a bit like saying that you don't trust any policeman after one or two cases of police corruption....

Really?

The entire police force?

Not really, just that it exposes how easily the system which so many seem to take as proof of reliability can be abused. I thought verifications were bollocks before that, and I think they're bollocks after it. If people need the opinion of someone else they don't know and have never met to determine whether it's ok for them to meet someone, they have bigger issues. "

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By *onnie and JohnCouple
over a year ago

WILTSHIRE

we dont worry to much on the person being veri..because the system is floored , you can pop into a chatroom where some people will veri you , then hide it..looks then if you are a swinger. we find it best to meet somewhere public face to face and take it from there ..connie x

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex


"I just don't trust verifications as far as I can throw them anyway. A little while back there was a woman selling verifications for £20 via her escorting profile. How are any of the men she verified any safer or more reliable than those who didn't pay for one off a random?

But it's a bit like saying that you don't trust any policeman after one or two cases of police corruption....

Really?

The entire police force?

Not really, just that it exposes how easily the system which so many seem to take as proof of reliability can be abused. I thought verifications were bollocks before that, and I think they're bollocks after it. If people need the opinion of someone else they don't know and have never met to determine whether it's ok for them to meet someone, they have bigger issues. "

A bit like telemarketing: some person you don't know and never met wanting you to buy into an idea, product or service you never heard of or didn't realise you needed

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex


"I just don't trust verifications as far as I can throw them anyway. A little while back there was a woman selling verifications for £20 via her escorting profile. How are any of the men she verified any safer or more reliable than those who didn't pay for one off a random?

Only £20? My that's a bargain, surely single women should offer them £100 each and couples should offer at £100 as £100 per head

I know, I could write a glowing review for £100, I'd struggle to squeeze out more than "cock to die for, hands off ladies he's mine" for £20"

Ah, but "hands off ladies he's mine" like any decent personalised number plate, costs extra

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon


"I just don't trust verifications as far as I can throw them anyway. A little while back there was a woman selling verifications for £20 via her escorting profile. How are any of the men she verified any safer or more reliable than those who didn't pay for one off a random?

But it's a bit like saying that you don't trust any policeman after one or two cases of police corruption....

Really?

The entire police force?

Not really, just that it exposes how easily the system which so many seem to take as proof of reliability can be abused. I thought verifications were bollocks before that, and I think they're bollocks after it. If people need the opinion of someone else they don't know and have never met to determine whether it's ok for them to meet someone, they have bigger issues. "

Trip advisor not for you then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I just don't trust verifications as far as I can throw them anyway. A little while back there was a woman selling verifications for £20 via her escorting profile. How are any of the men she verified any safer or more reliable than those who didn't pay for one off a random?

But it's a bit like saying that you don't trust any policeman after one or two cases of police corruption....

Really?

The entire police force?

Not really, just that it exposes how easily the system which so many seem to take as proof of reliability can be abused. I thought verifications were bollocks before that, and I think they're bollocks after it. If people need the opinion of someone else they don't know and have never met to determine whether it's ok for them to meet someone, they have bigger issues.

Trip advisor not for you then"

Having seen on Trip Advisor the restaurants that get the high marks in Reading, then no, I would not trust them.

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon


"I just don't trust verifications as far as I can throw them anyway. A little while back there was a woman selling verifications for £20 via her escorting profile. How are any of the men she verified any safer or more reliable than those who didn't pay for one off a random?

But it's a bit like saying that you don't trust any policeman after one or two cases of police corruption....

Really?

The entire police force?

Not really, just that it exposes how easily the system which so many seem to take as proof of reliability can be abused. I thought verifications were bollocks before that, and I think they're bollocks after it. If people need the opinion of someone else they don't know and have never met to determine whether it's ok for them to meet someone, they have bigger issues.

Trip advisor not for you then

Having seen on Trip Advisor the restaurants that get the high marks in Reading, then no, I would not trust them."

Their opinion, or that they had been to the restaurant?

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover


"I just don't trust verifications as far as I can throw them anyway. A little while back there was a woman selling verifications for £20 via her escorting profile. How are any of the men she verified any safer or more reliable than those who didn't pay for one off a random?

But it's a bit like saying that you don't trust any policeman after one or two cases of police corruption....

Really?

The entire police force?

Not really, just that it exposes how easily the system which so many seem to take as proof of reliability can be abused. I thought verifications were bollocks before that, and I think they're bollocks after it. If people need the opinion of someone else they don't know and have never met to determine whether it's ok for them to meet someone, they have bigger issues.

Trip advisor not for you then

Having seen on Trip Advisor the restaurants that get the high marks in Reading, then no, I would not trust them.

Their opinion, or that they had been to the restaurant?"

There seems to be a tacit assumption here that verifications are the ONLY things that people rely on..

I don't think anyone has specifically said that and that most would take them into account, and some may not meet anyone without a veri, but that is not to say that people regard it as the only criterion or tool.

We use common sense and judgement, chat, photos, forum contributions, etc., to assist our decision.

It's not just veris alone.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Not the slightest bit interested in verifications: never look for them or at them;

I trust my own judgement

^^^ This, for me. Plus, a first meet is always social-only, in a public place, so I know I will be safe."

This for me too!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I think it's hilarious when people won't meet unverified people. I wonder how they manage to get through life without someone holding their handy pandy.

Aww bless. "

I often think this too reading some of the comments.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

have met people who weren't verified, and 'shock horror' I didn't verify them after I met them either....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would just ask them to verify themselves to me instead before we meet.

Get them to write their username on a bit of paper or something.

Someone took a chance on us when we didn't have any verifications and luckily so because now we're having a ton of fun thanks to them!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"It is pretty hilarious that people take the word of a stranger whether to meet another stranger "

My point exactly. It looks like only a few of us realise how ridiculous that is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does anyone else worry about Meeting someone that's not verified? Or is it just me that's paranoid? "

I've met lots of unverified men, to be honest I find them over all more reliable than verified members, I've had a few verified members cancel meets last minute or no show, being verified proves nothing besides they met their last meet that don't guarantee they will meet their next

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By *ecretgamesMan
over a year ago

the moon


"Does anyone else worry about Meeting someone that's not verified? Or is it just me that's paranoid?

I've met lots of unverified men, to be honest I find them over all more reliable than verified members, I've had a few verified members cancel meets last minute or no show, being verified proves nothing besides they met their last meet that don't guarantee they will meet their next "

Waves !!! Over here

Very true also !!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"We were all unverified once.....used my intuition and i have had no problems meeting unverified people at times.

I don't personally know any lady or couple that will meet an unverified party (male, female or couple) and while I agree with your point we all started unverified, should the "verification olive branch" (by demographic) be extended by guys first or should ladies and couples be encouraged to "lower their standards" and give other unverified people a chance?

From a guy's perspective we are constantly being told "go to a social" and while this absolutely works (for myself and loads of other guys) should the same not be said to everyone and not just guys?"

I've mostly met unverified men. The last one I met moved in several months later and still here.

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