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"In my area the northwest used to be lots of members and now only a few pages of active members " I've been in the north west..and have many opportunities to go back.. so I cant really see your point.. | |||
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"20,000 + online in the middle of the afternoon and I bet a fair few of them are from NW 160 in Northern chat now 11 NW meets on the first page of Meet Today Loads of socials and parties on here get organised in NW. Certainly seems to be more than there used to be and Ive been here about 7 yrs as well More NW clubs these days. Overall I think NW is thriving " north west seems to me the best place to be I consider myself lucky to have such choice of clubs within an hours drive | |||
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"20,000 + online in the middle of the afternoon and I bet a fair few of them are from NW 160 in Northern chat now 11 NW meets on the first page of Meet Today Loads of socials and parties on here get organised in NW. Certainly seems to be more than there used to be and Ive been here about 7 yrs as well More NW clubs these days. Overall I think NW is thriving " and yet a married man who is verified can't get a meet or is it just a case it's just married men who can't get a meet through peoples morals | |||
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"20,000 + online in the middle of the afternoon and I bet a fair few of them are from NW 160 in Northern chat now 11 NW meets on the first page of Meet Today Loads of socials and parties on here get organised in NW. Certainly seems to be more than there used to be and Ive been here about 7 yrs as well More NW clubs these days. Overall I think NW is thriving and yet a married man who is verified can't get a meet or is it just a case it's just married men who can't get a meet through peoples morals " It's probably because you state you don't meet alone unless you have met person as a couple.... | |||
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"20,000 + online in the middle of the afternoon and I bet a fair few of them are from NW 160 in Northern chat now 11 NW meets on the first page of Meet Today Loads of socials and parties on here get organised in NW. Certainly seems to be more than there used to be and Ive been here about 7 yrs as well More NW clubs these days. Overall I think NW is thriving and yet a married man who is verified can't get a meet or is it just a case it's just married men who can't get a meet through peoples morals It's probably because you state you don't meet alone unless you have met person as a couple.... " and the problem with that is ? .... | |||
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"20,000 + online in the middle of the afternoon and I bet a fair few of them are from NW 160 in Northern chat now 11 NW meets on the first page of Meet Today Loads of socials and parties on here get organised in NW. Certainly seems to be more than there used to be and Ive been here about 7 yrs as well More NW clubs these days. Overall I think NW is thriving and yet a married man who is verified can't get a meet or is it just a case it's just married men who can't get a meet through peoples morals It's probably because you state you don't meet alone unless you have met person as a couple.... and the problem with that is ? .... " No problem at all.. I didn't say there was a problem did I?... Was just saying that's why it may me difficult for you | |||
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"20,000 + online in the middle of the afternoon and I bet a fair few of them are from NW 160 in Northern chat now 11 NW meets on the first page of Meet Today Loads of socials and parties on here get organised in NW. Certainly seems to be more than there used to be and Ive been here about 7 yrs as well More NW clubs these days. Overall I think NW is thriving and yet a married man who is verified can't get a meet or is it just a case it's just married men who can't get a meet through peoples morals It's probably because you state you don't meet alone unless you have met person as a couple.... and the problem with that is ? .... No problem at all.. I didn't say there was a problem did I?... Was just saying that's why it may me difficult for you " *be difficult | |||
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"20,000 + online in the middle of the afternoon and I bet a fair few of them are from NW 160 in Northern chat now 11 NW meets on the first page of Meet Today Loads of socials and parties on here get organised in NW. Certainly seems to be more than there used to be and Ive been here about 7 yrs as well More NW clubs these days. Overall I think NW is thriving and yet a married man who is verified can't get a meet or is it just a case it's just married men who can't get a meet through peoples morals " a married man, playing separately with or without consent ,becomes a single male. welcome to the club...now learn from it lol | |||
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"20,000 + online in the middle of the afternoon and I bet a fair few of them are from NW 160 in Northern chat now 11 NW meets on the first page of Meet Today Loads of socials and parties on here get organised in NW. Certainly seems to be more than there used to be and Ive been here about 7 yrs as well More NW clubs these days. Overall I think NW is thriving and yet a married man who is verified can't get a meet or is it just a case it's just married men who can't get a meet through peoples morals a married man, playing separately with or without consent ,becomes a single male. welcome to the club...now learn from it lol" like it mate but think been a married male certain puts me at some disadvantage as far as getting a meet is concerned weather I have consent or not | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! But no, it's thriving. I'm getting lots of chats, pretty much every day - not that I'm meeting up with any of them, but the opportunities are definitely here." so who should I be aiming to chat to with the prospect of a meet ? | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! But no, it's thriving. I'm getting lots of chats, pretty much every day - not that I'm meeting up with any of them, but the opportunities are definitely here.so who should I be aiming to chat to with the prospect of a meet ? " Whoever you like the look of! | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active, it is like timbuktu. I searched if any women wanna meet today and it was only 4 LOL." They prefer planning meets ahead rather than trying to get last minute meets with people that they have no time to get to know. | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active, it is like timbuktu. I searched if any women wanna meet today and it was only 4 LOL." Yeah! But I've known loads of women on here, not one would ever use that 'meet now' thing. | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active, it is like timbuktu. I searched if any women wanna meet today and it was only 4 LOL. They prefer planning meets ahead rather than trying to get last minute meets with people that they have no time to get to know." That is right and as well as they get loads of offers, so wouldn't need to use the feature as much. | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active, it is like timbuktu. I searched if any women wanna meet today and it was only 4 LOL. They prefer planning meets ahead rather than trying to get last minute meets with people that they have no time to get to know." Exactly! | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active, it is like timbuktu. I searched if any women wanna meet today and it was only 4 LOL. Yeah! But I've known loads of women on here, not one would ever use that 'meet now' thing." That is right, I guess cos as they get the offers so wouldn't need too as much as the men do. | |||
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"I've been using fabswingers off and on for around 7 years. Over the past year it has rapidly declined in members, genuine members and genuine opportunitys to meet. It maybe my view only but I'm starting to consider leaving as it's so disappointing knowing how active the site was years ago." The number of members has been over 30,000 at points which is more than it's ever been. 'Genuine' is virtually meaningless....and I can't comment on your opportunities. Fab works well for me and I like it as it is. | |||
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"We've been on for the last year, I hope we haven't caused the decline " I think from Cambridgeshire that's it's highly likely you're responsible for the issues in the north west | |||
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"You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true!" That doesn't mean they are men we want to meet! There are loads of men in Norfolk but finding a good meet prospect here is very difficult. A huge number are cheating (even if they don't admit it at first), and a lot seem to think that a heap of cock photos and nothing else, and a "luv ur tits, wld luv to cum over them" message are the height of appeal! | |||
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"You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! That doesn't mean they are men we want to meet! There are loads of men in Norfolk but finding a good meet prospect here is very difficult. A huge number are cheating (even if they don't admit it at first), and a lot seem to think that a heap of cock photos and nothing else, and a "luv ur tits, wld luv to cum over them" message are the height of appeal!" You mean those messages don't work?!?! We'll that's my fab strategy down the pan then! | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active, it is like timbuktu. I searched if any women wanna meet today and it was only 4 LOL. They prefer planning meets ahead rather than trying to get last minute meets with people that they have no time to get to know.That is right and as well as they get loads of offers, so wouldn't need to use the feature as much." I've put up meet today requests a few times and every time I've ended up taking them down quite soon afterwards. In general men are even less likely to read profiles when replying to a meet today. Some seem to think it's first come, first served and some think the woman must be desperate and usual preferences won't apply. If I was in a new area and at a loose end I might try it but here it's a waste of time. | |||
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"You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! That doesn't mean they are men we want to meet! There are loads of men in Norfolk but finding a good meet prospect here is very difficult. A huge number are cheating (even if they don't admit it at first), and a lot seem to think that a heap of cock photos and nothing else, and a "luv ur tits, wld luv to cum over them" message are the height of appeal! You mean those messages don't work?!?! We'll that's my fab strategy down the pan then!" They don't work for me. Perhaps there are women out there that consider them the ultimate turn on. | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active, it is like timbuktu. I searched if any women wanna meet today and it was only 4 LOL. They prefer planning meets ahead rather than trying to get last minute meets with people that they have no time to get to know.That is right and as well as they get loads of offers, so wouldn't need to use the feature as much. I've put up meet today requests a few times and every time I've ended up taking them down quite soon afterwards. In general men are even less likely to read profiles when replying to a meet today. Some seem to think it's first come, first served and some think the woman must be desperate and usual preferences won't apply. If I was in a new area and at a loose end I might try it but here it's a waste of time." I often to up meet requests and never failed to find a decent meet yet, i just delete the idiot messages | |||
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"I dont think its declining, i think too many think its instashag and theow a rant when realise it isnt" Yup. I do feel a bit for men because the onus is on them to do most of the contacting. It means they tend to get a lot of rejections, and that has to sting. A lot could help themselves, of course, but being turned down often must be a downer. Between that and unrealistic expectations of the site, and sometimes thinking with the small head, I can see why men get frustrated. | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active, it is like timbuktu. I searched if any women wanna meet today and it was only 4 LOL. They prefer planning meets ahead rather than trying to get last minute meets with people that they have no time to get to know.That is right and as well as they get loads of offers, so wouldn't need to use the feature as much. I've put up meet today requests a few times and every time I've ended up taking them down quite soon afterwards. In general men are even less likely to read profiles when replying to a meet today. Some seem to think it's first come, first served and some think the woman must be desperate and usual preferences won't apply. If I was in a new area and at a loose end I might try it but here it's a waste of time. I often to up meet requests and never failed to find a decent meet yet, i just delete the idiot messages" I've pretty much only got idiot messages and too far away messages. I am quite picky though and that doesn't help. | |||
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"I dont think its declining, i think too many think its instashag and theow a rant when realise it isnt" But when women join and get 4 or 5 veris within a week, isn't it instashag for them tho? Or is it just cos its men think it is? | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! But no, it's thriving. I'm getting lots of chats, pretty much every day - not that I'm meeting up with any of them, but the opportunities are definitely here." Im not in north west and I've chatted to you. its not all about areas OP is about getting yourself known, get to clubs and socials instead of whinging. | |||
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"20,000 + online in the middle of the afternoon and I bet a fair few of them are from NW 160 in Northern chat now 11 NW meets on the first page of Meet Today Loads of socials and parties on here get organised in NW. Certainly seems to be more than there used to be and Ive been here about 7 yrs as well More NW clubs these days. Overall I think NW is thriving and yet a married man who is verified can't get a meet or is it just a case it's just married men who can't get a meet through peoples morals a married man, playing separately with or without consent ,becomes a single male. welcome to the club...now learn from it lollike it mate but think been a married male certain puts me at some disadvantage as far as getting a meet is concerned weather I have consent or not " It does, i personally wouldnt meet a married man with or without consent from his mrs | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active, it is like timbuktu. I searched if any women wanna meet today and it was only 4 LOL. They prefer planning meets ahead rather than trying to get last minute meets with people that they have no time to get to know.That is right and as well as they get loads of offers, so wouldn't need to use the feature as much. I've put up meet today requests a few times and every time I've ended up taking them down quite soon afterwards. In general men are even less likely to read profiles when replying to a meet today. Some seem to think it's first come, first served and some think the woman must be desperate and usual preferences won't apply. If I was in a new area and at a loose end I might try it but here it's a waste of time. I often to up meet requests and never failed to find a decent meet yet, i just delete the idiot messages I've pretty much only got idiot messages and too far away messages. I am quite picky though and that doesn't help." Im extremely picky too | |||
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"I dont think its declining, i think too many think its instashag and theow a rant when realise it isntBut when women join and get 4 or 5 veris within a week, isn't it instashag for them tho? Or is it just cos its men think it is?" Women get the meets because theres hundreds men to each women, but don't see women moaning site has declined when they don't have meets | |||
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"I dont think its declining, i think too many think its instashag and theow a rant when realise it isntBut when women join and get 4 or 5 veris within a week, isn't it instashag for them tho? Or is it just cos its men think it is? Women get the meets because theres hundreds men to each women, but don't see women moaning site has declined when they don't have meets" That is right and that is why as well they don't do such threads either lol x. | |||
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"I dont think its declining, i think too many think its instashag and theow a rant when realise it isntBut when women join and get 4 or 5 veris within a week, isn't it instashag for them tho? Or is it just cos its men think it is? Women get the meets because theres hundreds men to each women, but don't see women moaning site has declined when they don't have meets" so very true women on here are very pivotal to the site without them it wouldn't be anywhere near what it should be | |||
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"I dont think its declining, i think too many think its instashag and theow a rant when realise it isntBut when women join and get 4 or 5 veris within a week, isn't it instashag for them tho? Or is it just cos its men think it is? Women get the meets because theres hundreds men to each women, but don't see women moaning site has declined when they don't have meetsThat is right and that is why as well they don't do such threads either lol x." And men moan because they think oh lets join up and get a fuck tonight, when they realise its not so easy they moan like fuck | |||
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"I dont think its declining, i think too many think its instashag and theow a rant when realise it isntBut when women join and get 4 or 5 veris within a week, isn't it instashag for them tho? Or is it just cos its men think it is? Women get the meets because theres hundreds men to each women, but don't see women moaning site has declined when they don't have meetsThat is right and that is why as well they don't do such threads either lol x. And men moan because they think oh lets join up and get a fuck tonight, when they realise its not so easy they moan like fuck" That is right as well, plus it helps being on few sites, which widens the horizons for meets too. Don't lay the eggs in one basket so to speak. | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active, it is like timbuktu. I searched if any women wanna meet today and it was only 4 LOL. Yeah! But I've known loads of women on here, not one would ever use that 'meet now' thing." I use it all the time to list the clubs I will be visiting. Out of the 10 dreamers who respond to it, I end up meeting 2 or 3 reasonable guys at the club. Usual requirements still apply | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active, it is like timbuktu. I searched if any women wanna meet today and it was only 4 LOL." yes, with only about 4 million women in london....must be really difficult! more to do with mens messages,profiles, and inability to read others profiles than the amount of women! | |||
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"20,000 + online in the middle of the afternoon and I bet a fair few of them are from NW 160 in Northern chat now 11 NW meets on the first page of Meet Today Loads of socials and parties on here get organised in NW. Certainly seems to be more than there used to be and Ive been here about 7 yrs as well More NW clubs these days. Overall I think NW is thriving and yet a married man who is verified can't get a meet or is it just a case it's just married men who can't get a meet through peoples morals a married man, playing separately with or without consent ,becomes a single male. welcome to the club...now learn from it lollike it mate but think been a married male certain puts me at some disadvantage as far as getting a meet is concerned weather I have consent or not " I'm confused...are you a couple? Or a man operating from a a couples profile? | |||
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"I dont think its declining, i think too many think its instashag and theow a rant when realise it isntBut when women join and get 4 or 5 veris within a week, isn't it instashag for them tho? Or is it just cos its men think it is? Women get the meets because theres hundreds men to each women, but don't see women moaning site has declined when they don't have meetsThat is right and that is why as well they don't do such threads either lol x. And men moan because they think oh lets join up and get a fuck tonight, when they realise its not so easy they moan like fuckThat is right as well, plus it helps being on few sites, which widens the horizons for meets too. Don't lay the eggs in one basket so to speak." I fully agree, I'm on loads of sites, i never lay my eggs in one basket | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active." I was in London few weeks back, posted social meet and met loads for coffees in one day, London plenty active | |||
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"I dont think its declining, i think too many think its instashag and theow a rant when realise it isntBut when women join and get 4 or 5 veris within a week, isn't it instashag for them tho? Or is it just cos its men think it is? Women get the meets because theres hundreds men to each women, but don't see women moaning site has declined when they don't have meetsThat is right and that is why as well they don't do such threads either lol x. And men moan because they think oh lets join up and get a fuck tonight, when they realise its not so easy they moan like fuckThat is right as well, plus it helps being on few sites, which widens the horizons for meets too. Don't lay the eggs in one basket so to speak. I fully agree, I'm on loads of sites, i never lay my eggs in one basket " Same here. I am on loads as well | |||
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"20,000 + online in the middle of the afternoon and I bet a fair few of them are from NW 160 in Northern chat now 11 NW meets on the first page of Meet Today Loads of socials and parties on here get organised in NW. Certainly seems to be more than there used to be and Ive been here about 7 yrs as well More NW clubs these days. Overall I think NW is thriving and yet a married man who is verified can't get a meet or is it just a case it's just married men who can't get a meet through peoples morals a married man, playing separately with or without consent ,becomes a single male. welcome to the club...now learn from it lollike it mate but think been a married male certain puts me at some disadvantage as far as getting a meet is concerned weather I have consent or not I'm confused...are you a couple? Or a man operating from a a couples profile? " man asking from a couples profile | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active. I was in London few weeks back, posted social meet and met loads for coffees in one day, London plenty active" Nice one, that sounds like a fun day out, nandos does good coffees. | |||
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"If fab did more about preventing fake profiles - dealing with ones that are on here, took security / privacy , hacking more seriously & did something constructive about those oxygen thiefs that use these sites as personal feeding grounds to financially feather their gutter space ! Perhaps more people would stay ??? These are key areas that have made me seriously think of deleting my account ! I'm sick of being hit by game playing weirdos under fake profiles & multi hit by the likes of Bob 1 , bob 2 Bob 3 ..... Bob 45 who can't seem to take a polite' No thanks' to 'F@ck off Bob 45 ' as an answer in 45 seconds !!! I've stayed but only because I'm a defiant pervert it seems lol ;p" But, there's little you can do about fake profiles. What can you do? Ask to take an photo of your passport on signup? Verify it using a government service? It's too much admin/expense. Security and hacking, well that site is pretty standard as far as I can see. If people are willing to pay a premium, I guess they would implement changes. | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true!" I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! | |||
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"In my area the northwest used to be lots of members and now only a few pages of active members " Option B could be to move to a different area, where there are more active members? LOL. Only kidding. | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! " It's the same here | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! It's the same here " A search for men seeking women, who are within my age range, and whose age range I match, that can accommodate and do not smoke and are within 30 miles of me produces results with a depressing number of silhouettes and close up cock avatars. Once you factor out the blank or one line profiles, I may as well not bother. | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active. I was in London few weeks back, posted social meet and met loads for coffees in one day, London plenty activeNice one, that sounds like a fun day out, nandos does good coffees." Had social at nandos, table behind avidly eavesdropping as i was retelling a gangbang story | |||
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"fab has changed over the years we joined first about 6 years ago maybe longer cant remember lol but not as bad as the op states but it has changed there are a lot more wasters on here thats for sure and there are alot more who uses the site for non swinging ie cams or phone sex or pic collectors and of course the wankers (yes really lol) if we want the site to remain free then i guess we would have to carry on with this, its not the owners of fab fault they provide the tools for us to use and it gets abused by people who cant help themselves most are so easy to spot id rather have a nice free site with some wasters on than a pay site ruled buy the few who think they are the model swingers that would be abit like some of those clicky clubs where if your in your ok if your not then your frozen out" Do you not think the increase of wasters is more realistically due to the fact that more and more people have internet. A few years back only those with pcs at home had internet now practically everyone with half decent phone has internet. | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! It's the same here A search for men seeking women, who are within my age range, and whose age range I match, that can accommodate and do not smoke and are within 30 miles of me produces results with a depressing number of silhouettes and close up cock avatars. Once you factor out the blank or one line profiles, I may as well not bother." That is exactly how my area looks like, so therefore I cannot go looking for myself. My pet hate is that they then message me with 'I love your profile and pics....' yet do not understand the hypocrisy when I respond with 'it's shame you haven't given me the same courtesy' | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! It's the same here A lot of men on here message women like they are a piece of meat, usually they same men moaning they cant get a meet" Maybe they confuse 'meet' with 'meat' | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! It's the same here A lot of men on here message women like they are a piece of meat, usually they same men moaning they cant get a meet Maybe they confuse 'meet' with 'meat' " Lol | |||
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"fab has changed over the years we joined first about 6 years ago maybe longer cant remember lol but not as bad as the op states but it has changed there are a lot more wasters on here thats for sure and there are alot more who uses the site for non swinging ie cams or phone sex or pic collectors and of course the wankers (yes really lol) if we want the site to remain free then i guess we would have to carry on with this, its not the owners of fab fault they provide the tools for us to use and it gets abused by people who cant help themselves most are so easy to spot id rather have a nice free site with some wasters on than a pay site ruled buy the few who think they are the model swingers that would be abit like some of those clicky clubs where if your in your ok if your not then your frozen out Do you not think the increase of wasters is more realistically due to the fact that more and more people have internet. A few years back only those with pcs at home had internet now practically everyone with half decent phone has internet." oh yes thats a fact smart phones too im not knocking fab at all we love it ..it works for us | |||
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"it's sooo easy for the people on here who get offers pouring out of thier ears and meets gallor to disagree with the OP but we both feel the same as the OP. i (male half) have been on this site since it first started, back then it was fantastic, over the years it's just got worse, and no, we dont have offers and meets gallor" Can't see why you two aren't more popular. I read your profile and you both sound interesting people | |||
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"Fab is awesome, we are going to an organised Social tonight, probably going to be well over 120 people there, all Fab members, all organised through Fab. we have been on here about 7 years, and have made some fantastic friends, and had some great fun!!! We learned long ago there is a formula for having success in swinging, and this holds as true for single males as for anyone, in fact probably more so... (Good) Profile + socials = Results. " we dont do socials and have many good meets | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! I'm sorry but I don't think it is a misconception at all! Believe me, the ratios right now, I believe are greater than 50:1. Right now, there could be 500 men in an area where there are only 10 women! That is not an exaggeration! In the event that fab shrunk by half, the ratio would still be 50:1. If half of the people left fab, on average, that area would still have 250 men to 5 women! Believe me, if ladies struggle to find a descent man with those ratios, there's a problem somewhere. Ladies will never be without a mass of choice. I don't believe for one second that with a ratios of 50:1, that there is no descent man within fifty!" There are decent men, just very few. Maybe, if you opened a female account for a week you would see the standard type of messages we get, then maybe you'll understand that its rare decent men message | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active, it is like timbuktu. I searched if any women wanna meet today and it was only 4 LOL. Yeah! But I've known loads of women on here, not one would ever use that 'meet now' thing." i use that meet now thingy all the time and rapidly get an avalanche of offers, thats the good thing about being female or the bad thing whichever way you look at it | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active, it is like timbuktu. I searched if any women wanna meet today and it was only 4 LOL. Yeah! But I've known loads of women on here, not one would ever use that 'meet now' thing. i use that meet now thingy all the time and rapidly get an avalanche of offers, thats the good thing about being female or the bad thing whichever way you look at it " Ive never known a woman on here yet that has never used the meet me at least once | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! I'm sorry but I don't think it is a misconception at all! Believe me, the ratios right now, I believe are greater than 50:1. Right now, there could be 500 men in an area where there are only 10 women! That is not an exaggeration! In the event that fab shrunk by half, the ratio would still be 50:1. If half of the people left fab, on average, that area would still have 250 men to 5 women! Believe me, if ladies struggle to find a descent man with those ratios, there's a problem somewhere. Ladies will never be without a mass of choice. I don't believe for one second that with a ratios of 50:1, that there is no descent man within fifty! There are decent men, just very few. Maybe, if you opened a female account for a week you would see the standard type of messages we get, then maybe you'll understand that its rare decent men message" exactly right there | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! I'm sorry but I don't think it is a misconception at all! Believe me, the ratios right now, I believe are greater than 50:1. Right now, there could be 500 men in an area where there are only 10 women! That is not an exaggeration! In the event that fab shrunk by half, the ratio would still be 50:1. If half of the people left fab, on average, that area would still have 250 men to 5 women! Believe me, if ladies struggle to find a descent man with those ratios, there's a problem somewhere. Ladies will never be without a mass of choice. I don't believe for one second that with a ratios of 50:1, that there is no descent man within fifty!" Ok, change your postcode to mine, and have a look at the men in my area if you don't believe me. On my homepage with 110 current updates, about 90% of the profiles are either shadows or cocks! Then look at their blurb..... Mostly along the lines or 'here for fun and then a cock pic' Yeap, I have loads of decent men to choose from | |||
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"it's sooo easy for the people on here who get offers pouring out of thier ears and meets gallor to disagree with the OP but we both feel the same as the OP. i (male half) have been on this site since it first started, back then it was fantastic, over the years it's just got worse, and no, we dont have offers and meets gallor Can't see why you two aren't more popular. I read your profile and you both sound interesting people" thank you, shame your not closer to us | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! I'm sorry but I don't think it is a misconception at all! Believe me, the ratios right now, I believe are greater than 50:1. Right now, there could be 500 men in an area where there are only 10 women! That is not an exaggeration! In the event that fab shrunk by half, the ratio would still be 50:1. If half of the people left fab, on average, that area would still have 250 men to 5 women! Believe me, if ladies struggle to find a descent man with those ratios, there's a problem somewhere. Ladies will never be without a mass of choice. I don't believe for one second that with a ratios of 50:1, that there is no descent man within fifty! There are decent men, just very few. Maybe, if you opened a female account for a week you would see the standard type of messages we get, then maybe you'll understand that its rare decent men message exactly right there " | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! I'm sorry but I don't think it is a misconception at all! Believe me, the ratios right now, I believe are greater than 50:1. Right now, there could be 500 men in an area where there are only 10 women! That is not an exaggeration! In the event that fab shrunk by half, the ratio would still be 50:1. If half of the people left fab, on average, that area would still have 250 men to 5 women! Believe me, if ladies struggle to find a descent man with those ratios, there's a problem somewhere. Ladies will never be without a mass of choice. I don't believe for one second that with a ratios of 50:1, that there is no descent man within fifty!" The ratios are nowhere near that high. And there really isn't a "mass of choice" here. There's a lot of the same thing, but that's not what I want. Cock avatars, cock pics and crude one line messages just do not do it for me. See for yourself, do a search on men looking for women, between 23-49, non-smokers who can accommodate and are within 30 miles of Norwich. Scan down the results and see how many silhouettes and cock avatars there are. Of the rest, a hell of a lot will be married or will have no, or virtually no, profile. I set super matchmaker TinaTitz onto the task of finding decent meet prospects within a reasonable distance of me and she really struggled. Feel free to ask if you won't take my word for it. Lots of men is not the same as lots of choice or lots of good meet prospects. Plus you have to remember that I'm a lard arse so some of the men I might consider are not looking for me. The attraction has to be mutual after all, regardless of how many men there are. | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! I'm sorry but I don't think it is a misconception at all! Believe me, the ratios right now, I believe are greater than 50:1. Right now, there could be 500 men in an area where there are only 10 women! That is not an exaggeration! In the event that fab shrunk by half, the ratio would still be 50:1. If half of the people left fab, on average, that area would still have 250 men to 5 women! Believe me, if ladies struggle to find a descent man with those ratios, there's a problem somewhere. Ladies will never be without a mass of choice. I don't believe for one second that with a ratios of 50:1, that there is no descent man within fifty! There are decent men, just very few. Maybe, if you opened a female account for a week you would see the standard type of messages we get, then maybe you'll understand that its rare decent men message" x a million! | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! I'm sorry but I don't think it is a misconception at all! Believe me, the ratios right now, I believe are greater than 50:1. Right now, there could be 500 men in an area where there are only 10 women! That is not an exaggeration! In the event that fab shrunk by half, the ratio would still be 50:1. If half of the people left fab, on average, that area would still have 250 men to 5 women! Believe me, if ladies struggle to find a descent man with those ratios, there's a problem somewhere. Ladies will never be without a mass of choice. I don't believe for one second that with a ratios of 50:1, that there is no descent man within fifty! Ok, change your postcode to mine, and have a look at the men in my area if you don't believe me. On my homepage with 110 current updates, about 90% of the profiles are either shadows or cocks! Then look at their blurb..... Mostly along the lines or 'here for fun and then a cock pic' Yeap, I have loads of decent men to choose from " Yup! ^ this. Exactly this. | |||
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"It's a great site and one where a lot of socialising goes on, so not just a hook up site to fuck now and find someone else to fuck tomorrow. Admittedly, like all sites, there are a lot of fake profiles and new members expecting to join, message, meet and fuck within the first few days amd there are a lot of profiles who are genuine but have negativity towards those who do not meet their profile requirements, but if you ignore the negativity and don't encourage it but seek out the positive posts, you will get a better experience from the site. " Well said | |||
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"Just to balance the scales of my last post it's only right to add that I've also met some lovely people from here & the meets that I have had have been 100 % positive & great fun ! I merely only point out my concerns & the elements to the site that piss me off ! Getting a meet is easy ( speaking as a female in the shire since the odds are very much in my favour )! Weeding out the nutters, fake profiles & con men is a little harder - although as I said there's still plenty of lovely folk out there to meet & have plenty of fun with Swings & roundabouts I guess ! " exactly this and well said,yes its ridiculously easy to get a meet but much harder to find a decent man as you are always trying to dodge the cock pics taken from 20 angles and the messages saying i'm gonna ruin you etc etc a woman is supposed to be turned on by that,i don't think so | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active. I was in London few weeks back, posted social meet and met loads for coffees in one day, London plenty activeNice one, that sounds like a fun day out, nandos does good coffees. Had social at nandos, table behind avidly eavesdropping as i was retelling a gangbang story " lol nice one and yes, its a good place for a social and what a great story to tell too x. | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! I'm sorry but I don't think it is a misconception at all! Believe me, the ratios right now, I believe are greater than 50:1. Right now, there could be 500 men in an area where there are only 10 women! That is not an exaggeration! In the event that fab shrunk by half, the ratio would still be 50:1. If half of the people left fab, on average, that area would still have 250 men to 5 women! Believe me, if ladies struggle to find a descent man with those ratios, there's a problem somewhere. Ladies will never be without a mass of choice. I don't believe for one second that with a ratios of 50:1, that there is no descent man within fifty! The ratios are nowhere near that high. And there really isn't a "mass of choice" here. There's a lot of the same thing, but that's not what I want. Cock avatars, cock pics and crude one line messages just do not do it for me. See for yourself, do a search on men looking for women, between 23-49, non-smokers who can accommodate and are within 30 miles of Norwich. Scan down the results and see how many silhouettes and cock avatars there are. Of the rest, a hell of a lot will be married or will have no, or virtually no, profile. I set super matchmaker TinaTitz onto the task of finding decent meet prospects within a reasonable distance of me and she really struggled. Feel free to ask if you won't take my word for it. Lots of men is not the same as lots of choice or lots of good meet prospects. Plus you have to remember that I'm a lard arse so some of the men I might consider are not looking for me. The attraction has to be mutual after all, regardless of how many men there are." You ladies have noooooooooooooo idea! 100% of men are imperfect, yes. 100% of women are also imperfect but men get very little choice when it comes down to it. The only reason you think it's hard is because you're extremely picky, and the reason you're extremely picky is because you can be! My point is that majority of women on here are just the same as the men, 75% or so seem to be mad/weird in some way, but we are not in a position to be particularly picky. Standards, etc rely on supply and demand. For example, to illustrate it, imagine you have 50 cars to choose from. You have 40 odd normal cars, astras, etc, run of the mill cars, you also have an Aston Martin. All of a sudden, the 40 cars are no good anymore, they just don't look right, they just aren't as comfortable... Before you knew the Aston Martin was there, your standards were different. It's the same thing here. People's standards depends on supply and demand. Do you see what I mean? | |||
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"You ladies have noooooooooooooo idea! 100% of men are imperfect, yes. 100% of women are also imperfect but men get very little choice when it comes down to it. The only reason you think it's hard is because you're extremely picky, and the reason you're extremely picky is because you can be! My point is that majority of women on here are just the same as the men, 75% or so seem to be mad/weird in some way, but we are not in a position to be particularly picky. Standards, etc rely on supply and demand. For example, to illustrate it, imagine you have 50 cars to choose from. You have 40 odd normal cars, astras, etc, run of the mill cars, you also have an Aston Martin. All of a sudden, the 40 cars are no good anymore, they just don't look right, they just aren't as comfortable... Before you knew the Aston Martin was there, your standards were different. It's the same thing here. People's standards depends on supply and demand. Do you see what I mean?" I quite like you, you make a lot of sense. I love my Astra btw | |||
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"I've been using fabswingers off and on for around 7 years. Over the past year it has rapidly declined in members, genuine members and genuine opportunitys to meet. It maybe my view only but I'm starting to consider leaving as it's so disappointing knowing how active the site was years ago." I don't think I've seen a decline in genuine members, but I've definitely noticed an increase in fake profiles with pics from porn sites etc. | |||
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"In my area the northwest used to be lots of members and now only a few pages of active members I've been in the north west..and have many opportunities to go back.. so I cant really see your point.." thanks for my fabs x | |||
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"In my area the northwest used to be lots of members and now only a few pages of active members I've been in the north west..and have many opportunities to go back.. so I cant really see your point..thanks for my fabs x " oh too sexy not to lol | |||
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"I simply dont get it...er..some of the reasons here.. fakes= do homework its fucking easier than you think. go to a social event, not everyone may be your cup of tea..but lets say if theres a hundred people..you might find some suitable if you dont explore the other avenues...then dont complain that the site went downhill...blame YOU for not adapting.If you arent really wanting to change YOUR ways either stick it out or leave. its as simple as that." I agree it is easy to spot fakes. It's just a pity it's up to the site users to spot them And a lot of the time when you do report them, the pics are removed but the profile is left active. | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active. I was in London few weeks back, posted social meet and met loads for coffees in one day, London plenty activeNice one, that sounds like a fun day out, nandos does good coffees. Had social at nandos, table behind avidly eavesdropping as i was retelling a gangbang story lol nice one and yes, its a good place for a social and what a great story to tell too x." Fancy a social at nandos then | |||
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"In my area the northwest used to be lots of members and now only a few pages of active members I've been in the north west..and have many opportunities to go back.. so I cant really see your point..your pics are stunning " needing some serious updates lol... those boobs are mouthwateringly cock risingly HOT! | |||
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"I simply dont get it...er..some of the reasons here.. fakes= do homework its fucking easier than you think. go to a social event, not everyone may be your cup of tea..but lets say if theres a hundred people..you might find some suitable if you dont explore the other avenues...then dont complain that the site went downhill...blame YOU for not adapting.If you arent really wanting to change YOUR ways either stick it out or leave. its as simple as that. I agree it is easy to spot fakes. It's just a pity it's up to the site users to spot them And a lot of the time when you do report them, the pics are removed but the profile is left active." I really dont know why a 'genuine' person would put up pics of some porn actor/actress/model..if they are wanting to actually meet people...unless a complete masochist lol | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! I'm sorry but I don't think it is a misconception at all! Believe me, the ratios right now, I believe are greater than 50:1. Right now, there could be 500 men in an area where there are only 10 women! That is not an exaggeration! In the event that fab shrunk by half, the ratio would still be 50:1. If half of the people left fab, on average, that area would still have 250 men to 5 women! Believe me, if ladies struggle to find a descent man with those ratios, there's a problem somewhere. Ladies will never be without a mass of choice. I don't believe for one second that with a ratios of 50:1, that there is no descent man within fifty! The ratios are nowhere near that high. And there really isn't a "mass of choice" here. There's a lot of the same thing, but that's not what I want. Cock avatars, cock pics and crude one line messages just do not do it for me. See for yourself, do a search on men looking for women, between 23-49, non-smokers who can accommodate and are within 30 miles of Norwich. Scan down the results and see how many silhouettes and cock avatars there are. Of the rest, a hell of a lot will be married or will have no, or virtually no, profile. I set super matchmaker TinaTitz onto the task of finding decent meet prospects within a reasonable distance of me and she really struggled. Feel free to ask if you won't take my word for it. Lots of men is not the same as lots of choice or lots of good meet prospects. Plus you have to remember that I'm a lard arse so some of the men I might consider are not looking for me. The attraction has to be mutual after all, regardless of how many men there are. You ladies have noooooooooooooo idea! 100% of men are imperfect, yes. 100% of women are also imperfect but men get very little choice when it comes down to it. The only reason you think it's hard is because you're extremely picky, and the reason you're extremely picky is because you can be! My point is that majority of women on here are just the same as the men, 75% or so seem to be mad/weird in some way, but we are not in a position to be particularly picky. Standards, etc rely on supply and demand. For example, to illustrate it, imagine you have 50 cars to choose from. You have 40 odd normal cars, astras, etc, run of the mill cars, you also have an Aston Martin. All of a sudden, the 40 cars are no good anymore, they just don't look right, they just aren't as comfortable... Before you knew the Aston Martin was there, your standards were different. It's the same thing here. People's standards depends on supply and demand. Do you see what I mean?" I disagree My standards on here are exactly the same as my standards off here | |||
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"I simply dont get it...er..some of the reasons here.. fakes= do homework its fucking easier than you think. go to a social event, not everyone may be your cup of tea..but lets say if theres a hundred people..you might find some suitable if you dont explore the other avenues...then dont complain that the site went downhill...blame YOU for not adapting.If you arent really wanting to change YOUR ways either stick it out or leave. its as simple as that. I agree it is easy to spot fakes. It's just a pity it's up to the site users to spot them And a lot of the time when you do report them, the pics are removed but the profile is left active. I really dont know why a 'genuine' person would put up pics of some porn actor/actress/model..if they are wanting to actually meet people...unless a complete masochist lol" That's why I said fakes | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! I'm sorry but I don't think it is a misconception at all! Believe me, the ratios right now, I believe are greater than 50:1. Right now, there could be 500 men in an area where there are only 10 women! That is not an exaggeration! In the event that fab shrunk by half, the ratio would still be 50:1. If half of the people left fab, on average, that area would still have 250 men to 5 women! Believe me, if ladies struggle to find a descent man with those ratios, there's a problem somewhere. Ladies will never be without a mass of choice. I don't believe for one second that with a ratios of 50:1, that there is no descent man within fifty! The ratios are nowhere near that high. And there really isn't a "mass of choice" here. There's a lot of the same thing, but that's not what I want. Cock avatars, cock pics and crude one line messages just do not do it for me. See for yourself, do a search on men looking for women, between 23-49, non-smokers who can accommodate and are within 30 miles of Norwich. Scan down the results and see how many silhouettes and cock avatars there are. Of the rest, a hell of a lot will be married or will have no, or virtually no, profile. I set super matchmaker TinaTitz onto the task of finding decent meet prospects within a reasonable distance of me and she really struggled. Feel free to ask if you won't take my word for it. Lots of men is not the same as lots of choice or lots of good meet prospects. Plus you have to remember that I'm a lard arse so some of the men I might consider are not looking for me. The attraction has to be mutual after all, regardless of how many men there are. You ladies have noooooooooooooo idea! 100% of men are imperfect, yes. 100% of women are also imperfect but men get very little choice when it comes down to it. The only reason you think it's hard is because you're extremely picky, and the reason you're extremely picky is because you can be! My point is that majority of women on here are just the same as the men, 75% or so seem to be mad/weird in some way, but we are not in a position to be particularly picky. Standards, etc rely on supply and demand. For example, to illustrate it, imagine you have 50 cars to choose from. You have 40 odd normal cars, astras, etc, run of the mill cars, you also have an Aston Martin. All of a sudden, the 40 cars are no good anymore, they just don't look right, they just aren't as comfortable... Before you knew the Aston Martin was there, your standards were different. It's the same thing here. People's standards depends on supply and demand. Do you see what I mean?" Absolutely spot on | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! I'm sorry but I don't think it is a misconception at all! Believe me, the ratios right now, I believe are greater than 50:1. Right now, there could be 500 men in an area where there are only 10 women! That is not an exaggeration! In the event that fab shrunk by half, the ratio would still be 50:1. If half of the people left fab, on average, that area would still have 250 men to 5 women! Believe me, if ladies struggle to find a descent man with those ratios, there's a problem somewhere. Ladies will never be without a mass of choice. I don't believe for one second that with a ratios of 50:1, that there is no descent man within fifty! The ratios are nowhere near that high. And there really isn't a "mass of choice" here. There's a lot of the same thing, but that's not what I want. Cock avatars, cock pics and crude one line messages just do not do it for me. See for yourself, do a search on men looking for women, between 23-49, non-smokers who can accommodate and are within 30 miles of Norwich. Scan down the results and see how many silhouettes and cock avatars there are. Of the rest, a hell of a lot will be married or will have no, or virtually no, profile. I set super matchmaker TinaTitz onto the task of finding decent meet prospects within a reasonable distance of me and she really struggled. Feel free to ask if you won't take my word for it. Lots of men is not the same as lots of choice or lots of good meet prospects. Plus you have to remember that I'm a lard arse so some of the men I might consider are not looking for me. The attraction has to be mutual after all, regardless of how many men there are. You ladies have noooooooooooooo idea! 100% of men are imperfect, yes. 100% of women are also imperfect but men get very little choice when it comes down to it. The only reason you think it's hard is because you're extremely picky, and the reason you're extremely picky is because you can be! My point is that majority of women on here are just the same as the men, 75% or so seem to be mad/weird in some way, but we are not in a position to be particularly picky. Standards, etc rely on supply and demand. For example, to illustrate it, imagine you have 50 cars to choose from. You have 40 odd normal cars, astras, etc, run of the mill cars, you also have an Aston Martin. All of a sudden, the 40 cars are no good anymore, they just don't look right, they just aren't as comfortable... Before you knew the Aston Martin was there, your standards were different. It's the same thing here. People's standards depends on supply and demand. Do you see what I mean? Absolutely spot on" Absolutely wrong, not all women have altered there standards for this site, me being one | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! I'm sorry but I don't think it is a misconception at all! Believe me, the ratios right now, I believe are greater than 50:1. Right now, there could be 500 men in an area where there are only 10 women! That is not an exaggeration! In the event that fab shrunk by half, the ratio would still be 50:1. If half of the people left fab, on average, that area would still have 250 men to 5 women! Believe me, if ladies struggle to find a descent man with those ratios, there's a problem somewhere. Ladies will never be without a mass of choice. I don't believe for one second that with a ratios of 50:1, that there is no descent man within fifty! The ratios are nowhere near that high. And there really isn't a "mass of choice" here. There's a lot of the same thing, but that's not what I want. Cock avatars, cock pics and crude one line messages just do not do it for me. See for yourself, do a search on men looking for women, between 23-49, non-smokers who can accommodate and are within 30 miles of Norwich. Scan down the results and see how many silhouettes and cock avatars there are. Of the rest, a hell of a lot will be married or will have no, or virtually no, profile. I set super matchmaker TinaTitz onto the task of finding decent meet prospects within a reasonable distance of me and she really struggled. Feel free to ask if you won't take my word for it. Lots of men is not the same as lots of choice or lots of good meet prospects. Plus you have to remember that I'm a lard arse so some of the men I might consider are not looking for me. The attraction has to be mutual after all, regardless of how many men there are. You ladies have noooooooooooooo idea! 100% of men are imperfect, yes. 100% of women are also imperfect but men get very little choice when it comes down to it. The only reason you think it's hard is because you're extremely picky, and the reason you're extremely picky is because you can be! My point is that majority of women on here are just the same as the men, 75% or so seem to be mad/weird in some way, but we are not in a position to be particularly picky. Standards, etc rely on supply and demand. For example, to illustrate it, imagine you have 50 cars to choose from. You have 40 odd normal cars, astras, etc, run of the mill cars, you also have an Aston Martin. All of a sudden, the 40 cars are no good anymore, they just don't look right, they just aren't as comfortable... Before you knew the Aston Martin was there, your standards were different. It's the same thing here. People's standards depends on supply and demand. Do you see what I mean? Absolutely spot on Absolutely wrong, not all women have altered there standards for this site, me being one" No neither have I.. | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! I'm sorry but I don't think it is a misconception at all! Believe me, the ratios right now, I believe are greater than 50:1. Right now, there could be 500 men in an area where there are only 10 women! That is not an exaggeration! In the event that fab shrunk by half, the ratio would still be 50:1. If half of the people left fab, on average, that area would still have 250 men to 5 women! Believe me, if ladies struggle to find a descent man with those ratios, there's a problem somewhere. Ladies will never be without a mass of choice. I don't believe for one second that with a ratios of 50:1, that there is no descent man within fifty! The ratios are nowhere near that high. And there really isn't a "mass of choice" here. There's a lot of the same thing, but that's not what I want. Cock avatars, cock pics and crude one line messages just do not do it for me. See for yourself, do a search on men looking for women, between 23-49, non-smokers who can accommodate and are within 30 miles of Norwich. Scan down the results and see how many silhouettes and cock avatars there are. Of the rest, a hell of a lot will be married or will have no, or virtually no, profile. I set super matchmaker TinaTitz onto the task of finding decent meet prospects within a reasonable distance of me and she really struggled. Feel free to ask if you won't take my word for it. Lots of men is not the same as lots of choice or lots of good meet prospects. Plus you have to remember that I'm a lard arse so some of the men I might consider are not looking for me. The attraction has to be mutual after all, regardless of how many men there are. You ladies have noooooooooooooo idea! 100% of men are imperfect, yes. 100% of women are also imperfect but men get very little choice when it comes down to it. The only reason you think it's hard is because you're extremely picky, and the reason you're extremely picky is because you can be! My point is that majority of women on here are just the same as the men, 75% or so seem to be mad/weird in some way, but we are not in a position to be particularly picky. Standards, etc rely on supply and demand. For example, to illustrate it, imagine you have 50 cars to choose from. You have 40 odd normal cars, astras, etc, run of the mill cars, you also have an Aston Martin. All of a sudden, the 40 cars are no good anymore, they just don't look right, they just aren't as comfortable... Before you knew the Aston Martin was there, your standards were different. It's the same thing here. People's standards depends on supply and demand. Do you see what I mean? Absolutely spot on" Absolute rubbish and shows how your mind works. What I get from that is you don't care who you have sex with as long as it's the best of the bunch. Not all of us are that fickle. | |||
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"It depends where you live and if the area is fab active, you wouldn't think of think of it, but London is not active, it is like timbuktu. I searched if any women wanna meet today and it was only 4 LOL. Yeah! But I've known loads of women on here, not one would ever use that 'meet now' thing. i use that meet now thingy all the time and rapidly get an avalanche of offers, thats the good thing about being female or the bad thing whichever way you look at it Ive never known a woman on here yet that has never used the meet me at least once" Never have, never will (shudders) simply not for me. | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! I'm sorry but I don't think it is a misconception at all! Believe me, the ratios right now, I believe are greater than 50:1. Right now, there could be 500 men in an area where there are only 10 women! That is not an exaggeration! In the event that fab shrunk by half, the ratio would still be 50:1. If half of the people left fab, on average, that area would still have 250 men to 5 women! Believe me, if ladies struggle to find a descent man with those ratios, there's a problem somewhere. Ladies will never be without a mass of choice. I don't believe for one second that with a ratios of 50:1, that there is no descent man within fifty! The ratios are nowhere near that high. And there really isn't a "mass of choice" here. There's a lot of the same thing, but that's not what I want. Cock avatars, cock pics and crude one line messages just do not do it for me. See for yourself, do a search on men looking for women, between 23-49, non-smokers who can accommodate and are within 30 miles of Norwich. Scan down the results and see how many silhouettes and cock avatars there are. Of the rest, a hell of a lot will be married or will have no, or virtually no, profile. I set super matchmaker TinaTitz onto the task of finding decent meet prospects within a reasonable distance of me and she really struggled. Feel free to ask if you won't take my word for it. Lots of men is not the same as lots of choice or lots of good meet prospects. Plus you have to remember that I'm a lard arse so some of the men I might consider are not looking for me. The attraction has to be mutual after all, regardless of how many men there are. You ladies have noooooooooooooo idea! 100% of men are imperfect, yes. 100% of women are also imperfect but men get very little choice when it comes down to it. The only reason you think it's hard is because you're extremely picky, and the reason you're extremely picky is because you can be! My point is that majority of women on here are just the same as the men, 75% or so seem to be mad/weird in some way, but we are not in a position to be particularly picky. Standards, etc rely on supply and demand. For example, to illustrate it, imagine you have 50 cars to choose from. You have 40 odd normal cars, astras, etc, run of the mill cars, you also have an Aston Martin. All of a sudden, the 40 cars are no good anymore, they just don't look right, they just aren't as comfortable... Before you knew the Aston Martin was there, your standards were different. It's the same thing here. People's standards depends on supply and demand. Do you see what I mean?" I'd have to disagree with this: my criteria for the type of man I meet on and off site remain the same: I would always be looking for the Austin Martin never an Astra. | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! I'm sorry but I don't think it is a misconception at all! Believe me, the ratios right now, I believe are greater than 50:1. Right now, there could be 500 men in an area where there are only 10 women! That is not an exaggeration! In the event that fab shrunk by half, the ratio would still be 50:1. If half of the people left fab, on average, that area would still have 250 men to 5 women! Believe me, if ladies struggle to find a descent man with those ratios, there's a problem somewhere. Ladies will never be without a mass of choice. I don't believe for one second that with a ratios of 50:1, that there is no descent man within fifty! The ratios are nowhere near that high. And there really isn't a "mass of choice" here. There's a lot of the same thing, but that's not what I want. Cock avatars, cock pics and crude one line messages just do not do it for me. See for yourself, do a search on men looking for women, between 23-49, non-smokers who can accommodate and are within 30 miles of Norwich. Scan down the results and see how many silhouettes and cock avatars there are. Of the rest, a hell of a lot will be married or will have no, or virtually no, profile. I set super matchmaker TinaTitz onto the task of finding decent meet prospects within a reasonable distance of me and she really struggled. Feel free to ask if you won't take my word for it. Lots of men is not the same as lots of choice or lots of good meet prospects. Plus you have to remember that I'm a lard arse so some of the men I might consider are not looking for me. The attraction has to be mutual after all, regardless of how many men there are. You ladies have noooooooooooooo idea! 100% of men are imperfect, yes. 100% of women are also imperfect but men get very little choice when it comes down to it. The only reason you think it's hard is because you're extremely picky, and the reason you're extremely picky is because you can be! My point is that majority of women on here are just the same as the men, 75% or so seem to be mad/weird in some way, but we are not in a position to be particularly picky. Standards, etc rely on supply and demand. For example, to illustrate it, imagine you have 50 cars to choose from. You have 40 odd normal cars, astras, etc, run of the mill cars, you also have an Aston Martin. All of a sudden, the 40 cars are no good anymore, they just don't look right, they just aren't as comfortable... Before you knew the Aston Martin was there, your standards were different. It's the same thing here. People's standards depends on supply and demand. Do you see what I mean?" I know what you mean but you aren't right. A stack of cock pics and a fancy a fuck message are never going to do it for me. I could have been 5, 50 or 500 of them to choose from and they're never going to do it for me. If there is 1 fabulous prospect in amongst the cock pics, it's not going to put me off the cock pics because they were already not what I wanted. I'm not here to pick the best of what's available. I'm here for what I want. If I can't get that, I'll go without. I've gone without for significant periods of time throughout my life and I know it won't kill me. Some guys want meets so badly they will take the best they can get and make do even if that's not really what they want. I expect some women will too. I won't. Did you actually search the men in my area who match my age/smoking/distance preferences before telling me I don't know what I'm talking about? Did you ask Tina what her experience was? | |||
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" 100% of men are imperfect, yes. 100% of women are also imperfect but men get very little choice when it comes down to it. The only reason you think it's hard is because you're extremely picky, and the reason you're extremely picky is because you can be! My point is that majority of women on here are just the same as the men, 75% or so seem to be mad/weird in some way, but we are not in a position to be particularly picky. Standards, etc rely on supply and demand. For example, to illustrate it, imagine you have 50 cars to choose from. You have 40 odd normal cars, astras, etc, run of the mill cars, you also have an Aston Martin. All of a sudden, the 40 cars are no good anymore, they just don't look right, they just aren't as comfortable... Before you knew the Aston Martin was there, your standards were different. It's the same thing here. People's standards depends on supply and demand. Do you see what I mean?" So what you're saying is... Men are like cars. There are a load of average ones, and some that require serious bank. And when faced with the choice, women on this site will always pick the car that requires serious bank. And they'll lie about why the others just aren't as interesting to them. So... women on here only want the men that earn more money or look better. Have I got your analogy right? | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! I'm sorry but I don't think it is a misconception at all! Believe me, the ratios right now, I believe are greater than 50:1. Right now, there could be 500 men in an area where there are only 10 women! That is not an exaggeration! In the event that fab shrunk by half, the ratio would still be 50:1. If half of the people left fab, on average, that area would still have 250 men to 5 women! Believe me, if ladies struggle to find a descent man with those ratios, there's a problem somewhere. Ladies will never be without a mass of choice. I don't believe for one second that with a ratios of 50:1, that there is no descent man within fifty! The ratios are nowhere near that high. And there really isn't a "mass of choice" here. There's a lot of the same thing, but that's not what I want. Cock avatars, cock pics and crude one line messages just do not do it for me. See for yourself, do a search on men looking for women, between 23-49, non-smokers who can accommodate and are within 30 miles of Norwich. Scan down the results and see how many silhouettes and cock avatars there are. Of the rest, a hell of a lot will be married or will have no, or virtually no, profile. I set super matchmaker TinaTitz onto the task of finding decent meet prospects within a reasonable distance of me and she really struggled. Feel free to ask if you won't take my word for it. Lots of men is not the same as lots of choice or lots of good meet prospects. Plus you have to remember that I'm a lard arse so some of the men I might consider are not looking for me. The attraction has to be mutual after all, regardless of how many men there are. You ladies have noooooooooooooo idea! 100% of men are imperfect, yes. 100% of women are also imperfect but men get very little choice when it comes down to it. The only reason you think it's hard is because you're extremely picky, and the reason you're extremely picky is because you can be! My point is that majority of women on here are just the same as the men, 75% or so seem to be mad/weird in some way, but we are not in a position to be particularly picky. Standards, etc rely on supply and demand. For example, to illustrate it, imagine you have 50 cars to choose from. You have 40 odd normal cars, astras, etc, run of the mill cars, you also have an Aston Martin. All of a sudden, the 40 cars are no good anymore, they just don't look right, they just aren't as comfortable... Before you knew the Aston Martin was there, your standards were different. It's the same thing here. People's standards depends on supply and demand. Do you see what I mean? Absolutely spot on" No it's not. It's bollocks. Only men who have no idea about the actual experiences of women on this site, (despite being told by numerous women time and time again), think it's true. Lots of choice doesn't mean any good choices. And that's nothing to do with being poisoned against anyone. We don't want what we don't want and, in generally, what we want is not influenced by who is available. | |||
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" Absolutely wrong, not all women have altered there standards for this site, me being one" I don't have standards, I have preferences. I think 'standards' is a really unpleasant way of categorising people. I don't look for 'the best' people, I look for the ones that match my preferences. Those preferences may or may not be the same as other peoples preferences. Other people might see me as having 'low standards' because I meet people that they wouldn't, but the reality is that I probably wouldn't meet the people that they do. | |||
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" Absolutely wrong, not all women have altered there standards for this site, me being one I don't have standards, I have preferences. I think 'standards' is a really unpleasant way of categorising people. I don't look for 'the best' people, I look for the ones that match my preferences. Those preferences may or may not be the same as other peoples preferences. Other people might see me as having 'low standards' because I meet people that they wouldn't, but the reality is that I probably wouldn't meet the people that they do." Standards isn't an inappropriate word choice in response to the Astra vs. Aston post though. That's clearly about standards rather than preferences. | |||
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" Absolutely wrong, not all women have altered there standards for this site, me being one I don't have standards, I have preferences. I think 'standards' is a really unpleasant way of categorising people. I don't look for 'the best' people, I look for the ones that match my preferences. Those preferences may or may not be the same as other peoples preferences. Other people might see me as having 'low standards' because I meet people that they wouldn't, but the reality is that I probably wouldn't meet the people that they do. Standards isn't an inappropriate word choice in response to the Astra vs. Aston post though. That's clearly about standards rather than preferences." Yes for sure. But often people say 'I don't have low standards, I would look for the same men off site as I do on site'. And I just think standards isn't a very nice word to use in that context. And anyway - what is a 'standard'? When it comes to cars, my 'standards' include one that will take me to where I want to go, with the minimum fuss possible. That's basically the same quality that I look for in men. A guy that will do the things I want to do with me, with the least drama... | |||
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" Absolutely wrong, not all women have altered there standards for this site, me being one I don't have standards, I have preferences. I think 'standards' is a really unpleasant way of categorising people. I don't look for 'the best' people, I look for the ones that match my preferences. Those preferences may or may not be the same as other peoples preferences. Other people might see me as having 'low standards' because I meet people that they wouldn't, but the reality is that I probably wouldn't meet the people that they do. Standards isn't an inappropriate word choice in response to the Astra vs. Aston post though. That's clearly about standards rather than preferences. Yes for sure. But often people say 'I don't have low standards, I would look for the same men off site as I do on site'. And I just think standards isn't a very nice word to use in that context. And anyway - what is a 'standard'? When it comes to cars, my 'standards' include one that will take me to where I want to go, with the minimum fuss possible. That's basically the same quality that I look for in men. A guy that will do the things I want to do with me, with the least drama..." Agreed. I may have used the word standards in response to the Astra vs. Aston post though, because that's the thinking that post evokes, (for me). It's a bullshit post anyway. I agree with you points completely. Preferences is a nicer way of saying it, and more sensible because a standard implies something that's, well, standard, whereas everyone has their own preferences. I like reliable cars that are not outrageously expensive to run. I also like them to look good. And be fast. I don't think I should use my car selection criteria to choose men. Fast is not what I'm after! | |||
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" Absolutely wrong, not all women have altered there standards for this site, me being one I don't have standards, I have preferences. I think 'standards' is a really unpleasant way of categorising people. I don't look for 'the best' people, I look for the ones that match my preferences. Those preferences may or may not be the same as other peoples preferences. Other people might see me as having 'low standards' because I meet people that they wouldn't, but the reality is that I probably wouldn't meet the people that they do. Standards isn't an inappropriate word choice in response to the Astra vs. Aston post though. That's clearly about standards rather than preferences. Yes for sure. But often people say 'I don't have low standards, I would look for the same men off site as I do on site'. And I just think standards isn't a very nice word to use in that context. And anyway - what is a 'standard'? When it comes to cars, my 'standards' include one that will take me to where I want to go, with the minimum fuss possible. That's basically the same quality that I look for in men. A guy that will do the things I want to do with me, with the least drama... Agreed. I may have used the word standards in response to the Astra vs. Aston post though, because that's the thinking that post evokes, (for me). It's a bullshit post anyway. I agree with you points completely. Preferences is a nicer way of saying it, and more sensible because a standard implies something that's, well, standard, whereas everyone has their own preferences. I like reliable cars that are not outrageously expensive to run. I also like them to look good. And be fast. I don't think I should use my car selection criteria to choose men. Fast is not what I'm after! " Perhaps 'fast' translates as 'athletic'. | |||
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" Absolutely wrong, not all women have altered there standards for this site, me being one I don't have standards, I have preferences. I think 'standards' is a really unpleasant way of categorising people. I don't look for 'the best' people, I look for the ones that match my preferences. Those preferences may or may not be the same as other peoples preferences. Other people might see me as having 'low standards' because I meet people that they wouldn't, but the reality is that I probably wouldn't meet the people that they do. Standards isn't an inappropriate word choice in response to the Astra vs. Aston post though. That's clearly about standards rather than preferences. Yes for sure. But often people say 'I don't have low standards, I would look for the same men off site as I do on site'. And I just think standards isn't a very nice word to use in that context. And anyway - what is a 'standard'? When it comes to cars, my 'standards' include one that will take me to where I want to go, with the minimum fuss possible. That's basically the same quality that I look for in men. A guy that will do the things I want to do with me, with the least drama... Agreed. I may have used the word standards in response to the Astra vs. Aston post though, because that's the thinking that post evokes, (for me). It's a bullshit post anyway. I agree with you points completely. Preferences is a nicer way of saying it, and more sensible because a standard implies something that's, well, standard, whereas everyone has their own preferences. I like reliable cars that are not outrageously expensive to run. I also like them to look good. And be fast. I don't think I should use my car selection criteria to choose men. Fast is not what I'm after! Perhaps 'fast' translates as 'athletic'. " Ok, that works. In that case I do like men like I like cars | |||
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"In my area the northwest used to be lots of members and now only a few pages of active members " Maybe the numbers only appear to have declined because people on your block list or who have you on theirs won't show up in searches. | |||
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"In my area the northwest used to be lots of members and now only a few pages of active members Maybe the numbers only appear to have declined because people on your block list or who have you on theirs won't show up in searches." With that av, I wouldn't be surprised! | |||
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"In my area the northwest used to be lots of members and now only a few pages of active members Maybe the numbers only appear to have declined because people on your block list or who have you on theirs won't show up in searches. With that av, I wouldn't be surprised! " I said that very thing on the duplicate thread he started, which was closed. | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! " I totally agree, when you get a message that is just 'hey want a f@@k' why would we reply.... I do feel for the men on here but we are more likely to respond to a friendly message with a decent photo | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! I totally agree, when you get a message that is just 'hey want a f@@k' why would we reply.... I do feel for the men on here but we are more likely to respond to a friendly message with a decent photo " I'd answer 'yes, but not with you' if I could be bothered. I can't be bothered though. Plus applying means I can no longer filter out their messages with mail filters. | |||
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" Absolutely wrong, not all women have altered there standards for this site, me being one I don't have standards, I have preferences. I think 'standards' is a really unpleasant way of categorising people. I don't look for 'the best' people, I look for the ones that match my preferences. Those preferences may or may not be the same as other peoples preferences. Other people might see me as having 'low standards' because I meet people that they wouldn't, but the reality is that I probably wouldn't meet the people that they do." I agree however the word standards was used as person i replied to used same word | |||
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"basically it's like this us ladies have the pick of the litter,we have the pick of the best so i'm only going to meet what i think is the best,i would be completely barmey not to,and my taste in men is the same off this site it doesn't alter one bit,why have cotton when i can and do have luscious silk and if men were in the same situation they would do the same and if any man says otherwise i'm fully prepared to call him a liar " The only reason there are less women moaning about meets on here is because there are less women on here. I've seen plenty of women and couples complaining and who clearly don't get the pick of the litter. | |||
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"basically it's like this us ladies have the pick of the litter,we have the pick of the best so i'm only going to meet what i think is the best,i would be completely barmey not to,and my taste in men is the same off this site it doesn't alter one bit,why have cotton when i can and do have luscious silk and if men were in the same situation they would do the same and if any man says otherwise i'm fully prepared to call him a liar The only reason there are less women moaning about meets on here is because there are less women on here. I've seen plenty of women and couples complaining and who clearly don't get the pick of the litter." well i won't meet anyone who doesn't meet my criteria and if i get loads of offers and none meet my preference then i don't meet as i would rather just stay at home and play with myself than meet just for the sake of it,so i don't meet that often although like any female get loads of offers | |||
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"basically it's like this us ladies have the pick of the litter,we have the pick of the best so i'm only going to meet what i think is the best,i would be completely barmey not to,and my taste in men is the same off this site it doesn't alter one bit,why have cotton when i can and do have luscious silk and if men were in the same situation they would do the same and if any man says otherwise i'm fully prepared to call him a liar The only reason there are less women moaning about meets on here is because there are less women on here. I've seen plenty of women and couples complaining and who clearly don't get the pick of the litter." Those women and couples get offers, just not from decent men, which has been stated throughout this thread | |||
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"basically it's like this us ladies have the pick of the litter,we have the pick of the best so i'm only going to meet what i think is the best,i would be completely barmey not to,and my taste in men is the same off this site it doesn't alter one bit,why have cotton when i can and do have luscious silk and if men were in the same situation they would do the same and if any man says otherwise i'm fully prepared to call him a liar The only reason there are less women moaning about meets on here is because there are less women on here. I've seen plenty of women and couples complaining and who clearly don't get the pick of the litter. well i won't meet anyone who doesn't meet my criteria and if i get loads of offers and none meet my preference then i don't meet as i would rather just stay at home and play with myself than meet just for the sake of it,so i don't meet that often although like any female get loads of offers " Snap, id rather do solo than settle for second best | |||
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"Nahhhhhh! The north west is thriving!!! You might aswell ignore the ladies though as they will never be affected by low demand. They will always be outnumbered by a stupid amount of men. Sorry ladies, but it's true! I hate this misconception, just because men outnumber women, doesn't make it any easier for women to meet. I haven't met in over 4 months, purely because the men in my area have no respect for the women on here. They speak to me as if I am a free prostitute here purely for their needs. And why they think just having a cock pic is an attraction is beyond me! I'm sorry but I don't think it is a misconception at all! Believe me, the ratios right now, I believe are greater than 50:1. Right now, there could be 500 men in an area where there are only 10 women! That is not an exaggeration! In the event that fab shrunk by half, the ratio would still be 50:1. If half of the people left fab, on average, that area would still have 250 men to 5 women! Believe me, if ladies struggle to find a descent man with those ratios, there's a problem somewhere. Ladies will never be without a mass of choice. I don't believe for one second that with a ratios of 50:1, that there is no descent man within fifty! The ratios are nowhere near that high. And there really isn't a "mass of choice" here. There's a lot of the same thing, but that's not what I want. Cock avatars, cock pics and crude one line messages just do not do it for me. See for yourself, do a search on men looking for women, between 23-49, non-smokers who can accommodate and are within 30 miles of Norwich. Scan down the results and see how many silhouettes and cock avatars there are. Of the rest, a hell of a lot will be married or will have no, or virtually no, profile. I set super matchmaker TinaTitz onto the task of finding decent meet prospects within a reasonable distance of me and she really struggled. Feel free to ask if you won't take my word for it. Lots of men is not the same as lots of choice or lots of good meet prospects. Plus you have to remember that I'm a lard arse so some of the men I might consider are not looking for me. The attraction has to be mutual after all, regardless of how many men there are. You ladies have noooooooooooooo idea! 100% of men are imperfect, yes. 100% of women are also imperfect but men get very little choice when it comes down to it. The only reason you think it's hard is because you're extremely picky, and the reason you're extremely picky is because you can be! My point is that majority of women on here are just the same as the men, 75% or so seem to be mad/weird in some way, but we are not in a position to be particularly picky. Standards, etc rely on supply and demand. For example, to illustrate it, imagine you have 50 cars to choose from. You have 40 odd normal cars, astras, etc, run of the mill cars, you also have an Aston Martin. All of a sudden, the 40 cars are no good anymore, they just don't look right, they just aren't as comfortable... Before you knew the Aston Martin was there, your standards were different. It's the same thing here. People's standards depends on supply and demand. Do you see what I mean? Absolutely spot on Absolutely wrong, not all women have altered there standards for this site, me being one" But you've inferred that I was telling you that you've dropped your standards for this site! Where did I say that? I said that your standards are based on supply and demand. I still believe they are. I don't doubt that your standards are any different outside the site. The reason being is that the general 50:1 rule is the same thiughout the country. It's a good representation of all people in the UK. It doesn't matter if they are on this site or not! It's reality that there are more men looking for NSA. I never said that any of you had dropped your standards. Why do you ladies keep saying that? Where did I say thst you'd dropped your standards?!?! | |||
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