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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Is being 100% naked with someone with lots of touching going on considered sex if there is no penetration?

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

If it is, we are doing it all night, every night in our sleep, as we always wake up entwined ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not last time I checked.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex

Yes but it isn't penetrative sex.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but it isn't penetrative sex."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not last time I checked. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't call it sex as such as i tend to consider sex as penetration. I would call it being intimate...or sexual contact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it can be - depends

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On this basis would nakedness and oral sex be considered as sex or is penetrative only when it's the lower half of the body ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So, it's not sex if you were tied to the bed naked, and I spent hours kissing, touching, and making you cum with my hands, mouth and toys?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it can be - depends"

its extended foreplay i guess - which is sex but like already said non penetrative -

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By *acavityMan
over a year ago

Redditch

It's certainly sexual. Most people would call it foreplay.

Don't worry about definitions, or you end up with the Clinton lewinsky situation, where she had sex with him, but he didn't have sex with her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So, it's not sex if you were tied to the bed naked, and I spent hours kissing, touching, and making you cum with my hands, mouth and toys? "

sounds good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

According to Jeremy Kyle it's sexual contact

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can't ask a question like this and not say y u asked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So, it's not sex if you were tied to the bed naked, and I spent hours kissing, touching, and making you cum with my hands, mouth and toys? "

But it is sex if a fella sticks his cock in you for 2 mins, shoots and goes?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"So, it's not sex if you were tied to the bed naked, and I spent hours kissing, touching, and making you cum with my hands, mouth and toys? "

No that's heaven

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've only ever heard this asked by people who are trying to le their way around if they are cheating or not!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can't ask a question like this and not say y u asked."

I was going to say that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So, it's not sex if you were tied to the bed naked, and I spent hours kissing, touching, and making you cum with my hands, mouth and toys?

But it is sex if a fella sticks his cock in you for 2 mins, shoots and goes? "

Yes. Shit sex, but sex. The first scenario sounds really great, but I don't think it is sex.

-Courtney

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By *yldstyleWoman
over a year ago

A world of my own

Well if I had a partner and he was doing that behind my back it would be cheating

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can't ask a question like this and not say y u asked."

Yeah i was thinking the same....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sex is...

When I message someone and tell her what I'm going to do;

When I show her a photo of what I'm going to use;

When I'm ten paces behind her, watching her walk, when she knows that I'm watching and she's thinking about what's about to happen;

When the door is barely shut before your bodies come together;

Sex is... so much more than just fucking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sex is...

When I message someone and tell her what I'm going to do;

When I show her a photo of what I'm going to use;

When I'm ten paces behind her, watching her walk, when she knows that I'm watching and she's thinking about what's about to happen;

When the door is barely shut before your bodies come together;

Sex is... so much more than just fucking "

Fuck me.....I've had sex with way more guys than i ever knew...than they even knew

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By *ithardscotMan
over a year ago

Kelty

Certainly!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sex is...

When I message someone and tell her what I'm going to do;

When I show her a photo of what I'm going to use;

When I'm ten paces behind her, watching her walk, when she knows that I'm watching and she's thinking about what's about to happen;

When the door is barely shut before your bodies come together;

Sex is... so much more than just fucking "

I think you should be an add executive.

-Courtney

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Point of correction : I can ask whatever I like without saying why I asked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Point of correction : I can ask whatever I like without saying why I asked

"

Of course....we're just being nosy.....can't blame us for wondering....I'm an inquisitive creature....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Point of correction : I can ask whatever I like without saying why I asked

"

Oooh... When someone gets immediately defensive it's normally got an interesting back story. What's yours?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sex is...

When I message someone and tell her what I'm going to do;

When I show her a photo of what I'm going to use;

When I'm ten paces behind her, watching her walk, when she knows that I'm watching and she's thinking about what's about to happen;

When the door is barely shut before your bodies come together;

Sex is... so much more than just fucking

Fuck me.....I've had sex with way more guys than i ever knew...than they even knew "

yup me too - getting it all the time and not known - sheesh

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Ok then

Went out last night with a girl, both got pissed her more than me. We did everything there is to do other than penetration last night.

So this morning after she left I was just pondering on the fact.

No penetration but heavy petting lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Naked people,no touching is naturism.

Naked people touching with hands is fondling.

Naked people with genitals touching any part of another's body is foreplay,including oral.

Sex is a penis in a vagina or rectum.

That's my outlook on it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok then

Went out last night with a girl, both got pissed her more than me. We did everything there is to do other than penetration last night.

So this morning after she left I was just pondering on the fact.

No penetration but heavy petting lol"

If you both came bucket loads, and we're all hot and exhausted, probably (but still not by some people's options).

If you were both cuddles and stroking, not even by my definition.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok then

Went out last night with a girl, both got pissed her more than me. We did everything there is to do other than penetration last night.

So this morning after she left I was just pondering on the fact.

No penetration but heavy petting lol"

Thanks for sharing......it wasn't that hard was it?

Do you think you had sex?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not last time I checked. "

So does that mean...even though you're into women...

I can spend a night with you?

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By *annooWoman
over a year ago

Hastings

I think sex is penetration

The rest is intimate and I consider play foreplay...

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By *hloe sussexTV/TS
over a year ago

Larne


"Is being 100% naked with someone with lots of touching going on considered sex if there is no penetration?"

Duhhh yes it's foreplay lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok then

Went out last night with a girl, both got pissed her more than me. We did everything there is to do other than penetration last night.

So this morning after she left I was just pondering on the fact.

No penetration but heavy petting lol"

See Bro doesn't that feel better getting it of your chest??

So if there was oral,, mate u had oral sex. Other than that u had some fun.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Check

Check

Check and check

Yes, yes, yes and yes to all of the above.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

To be honest I'm finding it really difficult to consider it as SEX.

Mainly because my understand of sex is penetration......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To be honest I'm finding it really difficult to consider it as SEX.

Mainly because my understand of sex is penetration......"

Does she think you had sex?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To be honest I'm finding it really difficult to consider it as SEX.

Mainly because my understand of sex is penetration......"

Mate I just had a horrible thought . With her being d*unk are the police involved and Ur worried??

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

I would say so but I don't know what the definition in law is.

Put it this way, if a partner of mine did this but tried to defend himself by saying it wasn't actually sex, I'd still smack him over the back of the head with a soggy dildo and then kick him out.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Not at all m8

You are very dramatic thought

Drama King lol

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By *llebWoman
over a year ago

Poulton Le Fylde


"Is being 100% naked with someone with lots of touching going on considered sex if there is no penetration?"

Not in my view , it's like reading a map, you're just finding out where to go and how to get there

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

No

She said we just messed around !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not at all m8

You are very dramatic thought

Drama King lol"

Glad u found that dramatic. But think of what u wrote . She was more d*unk than yourself, and asking for definitions of sex.

Unfortunately many a guy have found themselves in front of magistrates for this. But as long as it is not. Hey good on yuh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No

She said we just messed around !!

"

Then it doesn't really matter i guess. You can call it what you like. Interesting to read other's views on what sex actually is though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To be honest I'm finding it really difficult to consider it as SEX.

Mainly because my understand of sex is penetration......"

If you were watching me doing that with your mother would you consider it sex?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is being 100% naked with someone with lots of touching going on considered sex if there is no penetration?"

Foreplay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In the circumstances described by the OP in the follow up post, I'd include it on my "people I've had sex with" spreadsheet so for me it counts.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

How sad and pathetic

Not going to justify your comment by saying anymore !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would say I'd had sex with a woman if all the above had been done, but there's no penetration because she didn't have a penis.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like heavy petting to me, which leads to sin.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is being 100% naked with someone with lots of touching going on considered sex if there is no penetration?"
that would be foreplay and yes can be great sex for some

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Lol

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By *llebWoman
over a year ago

Poulton Le Fylde


"How sad and pathetic

Not going to justify your comment by saying anymore !"

Would you include the quote then we know who you are responding to ......just saying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How sad and pathetic

Not going to justify your comment by saying anymore !"

I'll take that as a yes. Mr touchy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"To be honest I'm finding it really difficult to consider it as SEX.

Mainly because my understand of sex is penetration......

If you were watching me doing that with your mother would you consider it sex?"

How sad and pathetic

Won't justify your comment by saying more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the circumstances described by the OP in the follow up post, I'd include it on my "people I've had sex with" spreadsheet so for me it counts."

Spreadsheets are useful things aren't they?....i hadn't even thought of using one for such a purpose

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

Bill Clinton was able to say "truthfully" in a legal sense that he did not have sex with Monica Lewinski, because she gave him a bj and ( at the time, at least) that was not legally defined as sex.

As to your question: it's a moot ( and largely irrelevant ) issue: if you are naked and doing everything except actual penetration, I regard it as sex, really; it's certainly sexual activity .

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By *enninemarkMan
over a year ago

huddersfield/manchester


"So, it's not sex if you were tied to the bed naked, and I spent hours kissing, touching, and making you cum with my hands, mouth and toys?

sounds good "

Sounds very good. Either as giver or receiver!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To be honest I'm finding it really difficult to consider it as SEX.

Mainly because my understand of sex is penetration......

If you were watching me doing that with your mother would you consider it sex?

How sad and pathetic

Won't justify your comment by saying more "

So it was a yes. And congratulations on the name calling. Certainly a very grown up way of debating. *slowly claps hands. .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Spreadsheets yeah

That's a thought .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sexual activity.. Foreplay.. Messing around... Fondling.. Fooling around... Who cares if it was mutually contented to and fun

But if you want terminology;

Oral sex

Penetrative sex

Both sex

If it was two women I think you would all say it was sex

Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To be honest I'm finding it really difficult to consider it as SEX.

Mainly because my understand of sex is penetration......

If you were watching me doing that with your mother would you consider it sex?

How sad and pathetic

Won't justify your comment by saying more

So it was a yes. And congratulations on the name calling. Certainly a very grown up way of debating. *slowly claps hands. ."

Says the guy who lowered the tone in a juvenile and disrespectful manner

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To be honest I'm finding it really difficult to consider it as SEX.

Mainly because my understand of sex is penetration......

If you were watching me doing that with your mother would you consider it sex

How sad and pathetic

Won't justify your comment by saying more

So it was a yes. And congratulations on the name calling. Certainly a very grown up way of debating. *slowly claps hands. ."

I usually find you quite amusing,. So don't take this the wrong way... But bringing his mother into it was also quite childish. .. And a little disrespectful

X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sexual activity.. Foreplay.. Messing around... Fondling.. Fooling around... Who cares if it was mutually contented to and fun

But if you want terminology;

Oral sex

Penetrative sex

Both sex

If it was two women I think you would all say it was sex

Xx

"

This xx

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By *llebWoman
over a year ago

Poulton Le Fylde


"Bill Clinton was able to say "truthfully" in a legal sense that he did not have sex with Monica Lewinski, because she gave him a bj and ( at the time, at least) that was not legally defined as sex.

As to your question: it's a moot ( and largely irrelevant ) issue: if you are naked and doing everything except actual penetration, I regard it as sex, really; it's certainly sexual activity ."

And there you have it.

Sexual activity, and of course it's up to the individual to determine what they see as sex

Sex to me is penetration

Bringing each other to orgasm without that is sexual activity.

My Hitachi is very thankful to be gainfully employed in sexual activity but is unable to complete the deed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To be honest I'm finding it really difficult to consider it as SEX.

Mainly because my understand of sex is penetration......

If you were watching me doing that with your mother would you consider it sex?

How sad and pathetic

Won't justify your comment by saying more

So it was a yes. And congratulations on the name calling. Certainly a very grown up way of debating. *slowly claps hands. .

Says the guy who lowered the tone in a juvenile and disrespectful manner "

It was rather extreme I'll admit, but in order to change someone's point of view such a course of action is sometimes needed. I'm sorry if i hurt his feelings. But I'm sure he'd be more upset trying to justify himself in a room in front of 12 of his peers. If a situation such had been mentioned earlier had taken place with a woman under the influence of drink.

Because it was sex, with or without penetration.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No

She said we just messed around !!

"

She remembers ....... but yer she was more d*unk then u?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"To be honest I'm finding it really difficult to consider it as SEX.

Mainly because my understand of sex is penetration......

If you were watching me doing that with your mother would you consider it sex?

How sad and pathetic

Won't justify your comment by saying more

So it was a yes. And congratulations on the name calling. Certainly a very grown up way of debating. *slowly claps hands. .

Says the guy who lowered the tone in a juvenile and disrespectful manner

It was rather extreme I'll admit, but in order to change someone's point of view such a course of action is sometimes needed. I'm sorry if i hurt his feelings. But I'm sure he'd be more upset trying to justify himself in a room in front of 12 of his peers. If a situation such had been mentioned earlier had taken place with a woman under the influence of drink.

Because it was sex, with or without penetration."

Clem I accept your apology

Bringing my mother into it was unnecessary to say the least.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To be honest I'm finding it really difficult to consider it as SEX.

Mainly because my understand of sex is penetration......

If you were watching me doing that with your mother would you consider it sex?

How sad and pathetic

Won't justify your comment by saying more

So it was a yes. And congratulations on the name calling. Certainly a very grown up way of debating. *slowly claps hands. .

Says the guy who lowered the tone in a juvenile and disrespectful manner

It was rather extreme I'll admit, but in order to change someone's point of view such a course of action is sometimes needed. I'm sorry if i hurt his feelings. But I'm sure he'd be more upset trying to justify himself in a room in front of 12 of his peers. If a situation such had been mentioned earlier had taken place with a woman under the influence of drink.

Because it was sex, with or without penetration."

In court it would be indecent assault with intent.... Not sex by penetration without consent

But that isn't an issue as it was mutual

X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't actually think he has a clue what happened, they were both d*unk ( her more then him apprently ) but a few comments ago from , "she said it was only touching " if you were more sober then her surly she shouldn't need to have "said" x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I don't actually think he has a clue what happened, they were both d*unk ( her more then him apprently ) but a few comments ago from , "she said it was only touching " if you were more sober then her surly she shouldn't need to have "said" x"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the circumstances described by the OP in the follow up post, I'd include it on my "people I've had sex with" spreadsheet so for me it counts."

Hmmm, on your spreadsheet without penetration? Are you modifying your rules?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been out plenty of times on dates... Or with a partner.. And been more pissed than them.. But can still remember what has happened... .

Really don't get why people are trying to villianise this man... Chill people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does it matter as long as it is good? We don't always feel the need for penetrative sex. It can be more inventive and fun for us than a penis in a foofoo.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is a lot more to this thread then he letting x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Typical

What ever the question the answer will always be RAPE.

IT WAS CONSENSUAL

Yes we were both pissed but not out of our heads.

IT WAS CONSENSUAL..... Touching

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Typical

What ever the question the answer will always be RAPE.

IT WAS CONSENSUAL

Yes we were both pissed but not out of our heads.

IT WAS CONSENSUAL..... Touching "

I never said anything to do with rape... I was more thinking she was your best mates girlfriend or summit like that. And you were trying to justify what happened in your head x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the circumstances described by the OP in the follow up post, I'd include it on my "people I've had sex with" spreadsheet so for me it counts.

Hmmm, on your spreadsheet without penetration? Are you modifying your rules? "

No that still didn't count because there was no oral or nudity either

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Typical

What ever the question the answer will always be RAPE.

IT WAS CONSENSUAL

Yes we were both pissed but not out of our heads.

IT WAS CONSENSUAL..... Touching "

I read your question and assumed you were after the definition of sex after a night of heavy sexual activity. I also assumed that it was because you were just pondering on what happened in an idle sort of way, I think lots of others did too.

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By *razedcatMan
over a year ago

London / Herts

Sexual intercourse requires some form of penetrative act. Being naked with one another is a sexual act, but it's not sex.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"Is being 100% naked with someone with lots of touching going on considered sex if there is no penetration?"

No. It means you got to second base.

Go read: 'guide to losing your virginity 101'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sexual intercourse requires some form of penetrative act. Being naked with one another is a sexual act, but it's not sex."

So cunnilingus isn't sex.

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By *razedcatMan
over a year ago

London / Herts

Cunnilingus is oral sex, and is a sufficiently penetrative act. You're at least touching the entrance of a woman's vagina with your tongue.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Most people would consider manual sex (hand jobs, fingering), oral sex, vaginal sex and anal sex to be sex. Naked touching and rubbing can be considered a sexual behavior but may not always be considered sex. But everyone defines sex and sexual behaviors differently. Think I may need to discuss it with her the define as sex.

Something to keep in mind though is that STDs like herpes and some strains of HPV can be transmitted through genital skin-to-skin contact, and a pregnancy can occur if sperm are deposited onto the vaginal opening even if there is not penetration.

Just my take on things so far .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Cunnilingus is oral sex, and is a sufficiently penetrative act. You're at least touching the entrance of a woman's vagina with your tongue."

Doesn't the word intercourse cover all sorts of sexual activity during sex. Up to and including penetration? Hence Penetrative and non Penetrative sex?

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"Cunnilingus is oral sex, and is a sufficiently penetrative act. You're at least touching the entrance of a woman's vagina with your tongue.

Doesn't the word intercourse cover all sorts of sexual activity during sex. Up to and including penetration? Hence Penetrative and non Penetrative sex?"

You have performed a sexual act; much like fingering. But you have physically not had sex.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Is being 100% naked with someone with lots of touching going on considered sex if there is no penetration?"

If I was naked with you there bloody would be..................sorry, did I say that out loud?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Is being 100% naked with someone with lots of touching going on considered sex if there is no penetration?

If I was naked with you there bloody would be..................sorry, did I say that out loud? "

Touchè

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Is being 100% naked with someone with lots of touching going on considered sex if there is no penetration?

If I was naked with you there bloody would be..................sorry, did I say that out loud?

Touchè "

En garde.....

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds


"To be honest I'm finding it really difficult to consider it as SEX.

Mainly because my understand of sex is penetration......"

As Clinton said of Monica "I did not have sex with this woman" even though she gave him a blow job. It seems to depend on how you see it yourself, or how you might want to excuse yourself. Being naked and fondling is obviously not penetrative sex but it is most certainly being sexual - and that would be enough to trigger a divorce case if your spouse didn't know about it.

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds


"Bill Clinton was able to say "truthfully" in a legal sense that he did not have sex with Monica Lewinski, because she gave him a bj and ( at the time, at least) that was not legally defined as sex.

As to your question: it's a moot ( and largely irrelevant ) issue: if you are naked and doing everything except actual penetration, I regard it as sex, really; it's certainly sexual activity ."

...sorry I missed your post!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So, it's not sex if you were tied to the bed naked, and I spent hours kissing, touching, and making you cum with my hands, mouth and toys? "

Sounds like sex to me.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Yes but it isn't penetrative sex."

Will nobody think of the lesbians

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but it isn't penetrative sex.

Will nobody think of the lesbians "

Virgins the lot of 'em! (apart from the ones who arn't of course).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is being 100% naked with someone with lots of touching going on considered sex if there is no penetration?"
yes its foreplay best sex their is

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

If a partner of mine used this as an excuse his bags would be packed and out the door.

And yes I have had various excuses used on me in the past....this one certainly wouldn't cut it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So, who's still a 2016 sex virgin??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't say it's sex, just sexual contact..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't say it's sex, just sexual contact.."
and that isn't sex ,maybe not for the wham bam thankyou maam types but I enjoy it occasionally

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By *ong riderMan
over a year ago

belfast


"Is being 100% naked with someone with lots of touching going on considered sex if there is no penetration?"

Why? Feeling guilty perhaps...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but it isn't penetrative sex.

Will nobody think of the lesbians "

hey I just thought of them

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