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"We take dozens of calculated risks every day That's life, Some folk take mild risks, some don't. I'm more worried about flu to be honest " Statistically flu kills far more in the uk than HIV to be fair HIV prevalence just over 100000 in the UK, two thirds male Just over 6000 new diagnoses per year, 70% of these are men that have sex with men or black African males http://www.hivaware.org.uk/facts-myths/hiv-statistics | |||
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"Another bareback thread, do you know exactly what the risks are. I mean the actual stats rather than the general russian roulette rubbish spouted on such threads. What is the risk for a heterosexual mand and the risks for a hetrosexual woman? What are the risks for a Bis sexual of either sex? What are the risks when anal sex is involved and what risks when no anal sex is involved. If we need another bareback thread lets make it informative." Doesn't matter what the combination is, its greater risk of stds/stis and pregnancy | |||
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"How do people feel about drug resistant gonnorheas's ability to be passed on via oral sex? " How to people feel about it?! Are you asking if anyone is a fan of STDs? Is it a game like pokemon where you gotta catch em all? | |||
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"How do people feel about drug resistant gonnorheas's ability to be passed on via oral sex? How to people feel about it?! Are you asking if anyone is a fan of STDs? Is it a game like pokemon where you gotta catch em all? " No. | |||
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"Have always wondered why folks take risks such as barebacking strangers ? It does feel better without a rubber but... Why take such a risk though? You could catch anything literally Is the RISK worth taking ? Barebackers????? " Arrrggg; Russian Roulette; Its all their fault; the Russians | |||
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"Have always wondered why folks take risks such as barebacking strangers ? It does feel better without a rubber but... Why take such a risk though? You could catch anything literally Is the RISK worth taking ? Barebackers????? " Barebackers are really stupid you will most proberly get alot on here who will start an argument about it.Its good to see that you have your head screwed on right.  | |||
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"How do people feel about drug resistant gonnorheas's ability to be passed on via oral sex? How to people feel about it?! Are you asking if anyone is a fan of STDs? Is it a game like pokemon where you gotta catch em all? No." Well how do you feel about it then? | |||
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"One can catch something from a cheating partner..? Its nothing to do with 'strangers' At end of day we dont exactly take our sexual partners to an sti clinic before sex. As paerners increase as does risk.. but hey ho.. such is life." Nonsense Marriage certificates now come coated with antibiotic and ant-viral drugs | |||
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"How do people feel about drug resistant gonnorheas's ability to be passed on via oral sex? " I'll tell you how we feel . Would we like to get it ? No Will we stop performing unprotected oral ? No Yes it's a risk , but one we are prepared to take . It may well be that over the next few years more people will only do protected oral , but we won't be meeting them . There's a saying something like if it ain't no fun , there's no point doing it . And that's how we feel about dental dams , femidoms and condoms for oral . | |||
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"We take dozens of calculated risks every day That's life, Some folk take mild risks, some don't. I'm more worried about flu to be honest " Or a car accident- 3 times more likely at the last count. | |||
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"Have always wondered why folks take risks such as barebacking strangers ? It does feel better without a rubber but... Why take such a risk though? You could catch anything literally Is the RISK worth taking ? Barebackers????? " Literally ? Parkinson's, Cancer, Housemaids knee ? | |||
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"How do people feel about drug resistant gonnorheas's ability to be passed on via oral sex? I'll tell you how we feel . Would we like to get it ? No Will we stop performing unprotected oral ? No Yes it's a risk , but one we are prepared to take . It may well be that over the next few years more people will only do protected oral , but we won't be meeting them . There's a saying something like if it ain't no fun , there's no point doing it . And that's how we feel about dental dams , femidoms and condoms for oral ." I think many possibly the majority feel that way. So, safer sex it is then. | |||
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"600 people die of aids in uk each year on average there is no cure for aids" Most people do not die from aids, unless a pre-existing serious health proble. I is generally contained- I have friends diagnosed from 1008, still living nornally. It is Government policy to egg it up. Car deaths are far more prevelent. | |||
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" There's a saying something like if it ain't no fun , there's no point doing it . And that's how we feel about dental dams , femidoms and condoms for oral ." It's funny how people have different perceptions. I have a preference for femidoms over normal condoms. My partners and I think they give better sensation. | |||
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" I have friends diagnosed from 1008, still living nornally. It is Government policy to egg it up. Car deaths are far more prevelent." So it actually prolongs life by about 1000 years | |||
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"How do people feel about drug resistant gonnorheas's ability to be passed on via oral sex? How to people feel about it?! Are you asking if anyone is a fan of STDs? Is it a game like pokemon where you gotta catch em all? No. Well how do you feel about it then? " Oral sex without protection has always been and will always remain a risky activity It is less risky than vaginal sex which is less risky than anal sex The least risky is no sex People who demonise those who have unprotected vaginal sex are kidding themselves when they have unprotected oral sex. They could too be potentials carriers of HIV and other STIs | |||
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"How do people feel about drug resistant gonnorheas's ability to be passed on via oral sex? I'll tell you how we feel . Would we like to get it ? No Will we stop performing unprotected oral ? No Yes it's a risk , but one we are prepared to take .Bad news fow It may well be that over the next few years more people will only do protected oral , but we won't be meeting them . There's a saying something like if it ain't no fun , there's no point doing it . And that's how we feel about dental dams , femidoms and condoms for oral . I think many possibly the majority feel that way. So, safer sex it is then." My Mother is still worried about mad cow disease. She is nearly a hundred. Lol. | |||
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"600 people die of aids in uk each year on average there is no cure for aids" How many people die in car accidents? No cure for that either. Apart from AIDS, STIs are reasonably easy to cure with antibiotics. The problem is when we pass them along, as we do with colds, flu, glandular fever, and many many other diseases that don't come with a sneer when spoken of. Yes, they're not nice, and yes, you should wear a condom. But you should also get tested regularly as wearing condoms alone won't keep you safe from infection. | |||
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" I have friends diagnosed from 1008, still living nornally. It is Government policy to egg it up. Car deaths are far more prevelent. So it actually prolongs life by about 1000 years "Ye, typo . H He he. Nice one. Shezzz. Thanks for pointing it out. 1998.-Okay?? | |||
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"yet another thread? And still so full of ignorance. You know what? Your parents had bareback sex" Even if one is a 'test-tube' baby  | |||
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"600 people die of aids in uk each year on average there is no cure for aids How many people die in car accidents? No cure for that either. Apart from AIDS, STIs are reasonably easy to cure with antibiotics. The problem is when we pass them along, as we do with colds, flu, glandular fever, and many many other diseases that don't come with a sneer when spoken of. Yes, they're not nice, and yes, you should wear a condom. But you should also get tested regularly as wearing condoms alone won't keep you safe from infection." Don't worry too much, Illness won't kill us- they recon in 5 years isis will have the ability to hack all computers, and shut down hospitals, airports, emergency services,and the military. Oh, the goverment forgot to mention it???Oh, must be the aids epidemic occupying their time.xx | |||
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"yet another thread? And still so full of ignorance. You know what? Your parents had bareback sex" Mine didnt. Lol.xx | |||
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"theres some dirty people on here having anal sex with out a condom just thinking about all that human shit around your dicks so dirty" Bad boy. Go an wash it now. Bleach best.lol. | |||
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"yet another thread? And still so full of ignorance. You know what? Your parents had bareback sex Even if one is a 'test-tube' baby "Still technically 'bareback'. lol. | |||
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"Obviously the cheating partners are screwing strangers...... So hence we go back to the original question! Why bareback a total stranger.....? Why take such a risk?" Why drive? why go out? why live?- god, its dangerous out there. | |||
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"Obviously the cheating partners are screwing strangers...... So hence we go back to the original question! Why bareback a total stranger.....? Why take such a risk?" Correct; why have unprotected oral sex with a stranger? | |||
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"Good comment ! " See the reply and quote button? Makes life easier if you use it | |||
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"Obviously the cheating partners are screwing strangers...... So hence we go back to the original question! Why bareback a total stranger.....? Why take such a risk?" Well if that was a question on 'who wants to be a millionaire', what do you think the four options would be? | |||
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"Obviously the cheating partners are screwing strangers...... So hence we go back to the original question! Why bareback a total stranger.....? Why take such a risk? Correct; why have unprotected oral sex with a stranger?" Shit why even talk to strangers- they may be mass murders? who knows?? | |||
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"Obviously the cheating partners are screwing strangers...... So hence we go back to the original question! Why bareback a total stranger.....? Why take such a risk?" I have heard guys in the past moan about condoms and some women hate the feel of condoms. I use to meet a guy off here years ago saw a pic of him barebacking his latest meet. Got rid of him right away. Why people take the risk i think they are just thick in the head. Don't get me started on cheaters  | |||
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"Obviously the cheating partners are screwing strangers...... So hence we go back to the original question! Why bareback a total stranger.....? Why take such a risk? I have heard guys in the past moan about condoms and some women hate the feel of condoms. I use to meet a guy off here years ago saw a pic of him barebacking his latest meet. Got rid of him right away. Why people take the risk i think they are just thick in the head. Don't get me started on cheaters "Yep, they are stupid and ignorant. Not like us who use dental dams and insist that he put on a condom before oral sex and have him wear surgical latex gloves before he can insert even a finger in us. We are smart | |||
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"Russian Roulette YES ! Guess at some point we all have taken that risk and just went in RAW However, taking the risk is half the issue... Dealing with the consequences if a partner is involved " That would be a personal issue, nothing to do with protected sex for others- I don't care what married men do- if they tell me they are single, thats up to them- I don't adjust my lifestyle because there are 'cheaters' out there- forget the condom- better look at the problems in your marriage- I am not in it.lol | |||
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"Russian Roulette YES ! Guess at some point we all have taken that risk and just went in RAW However, taking the risk is half the issue... Dealing with the consequences if a partner is involved " We only swing together , so if one of us gets infected we both will be . At least that half of the issue is sorted | |||
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"Obviously the cheating partners are screwing strangers...... So hence we go back to the original question! Why bareback a total stranger.....? Why take such a risk? I have heard guys in the past moan about condoms and some women hate the feel of condoms. I use to meet a guy off here years ago saw a pic of him barebacking his latest meet. Got rid of him right away. Why people take the risk i think they are just thick in the head. Don't get me started on cheaters
Yep, they are stupid and ignorant. Not like us who use dental dams and insist that he put on a condom before oral sex and have him wear surgical latex gloves before he can insert even a finger in us. We are smart"Stupid?? Thick?? Facts are, you are more likely to die in a car accident- who's thick now?? Doh! | |||
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"Obviously the cheating partners are screwing strangers...... So hence we go back to the original question! Why bareback a total stranger.....? Why take such a risk? I have heard guys in the past moan about condoms and some women hate the feel of condoms. I use to meet a guy off here years ago saw a pic of him barebacking his latest meet. Got rid of him right away. Why people take the risk i think they are just thick in the head. Don't get me started on cheaters
Yep, they are stupid and ignorant. Not like us who use dental dams and insist that he put on a condom before oral sex and have him wear surgical latex gloves before he can insert even a finger in us. We are smart"You not got those full body condoms yet? Those are for the real clued up ones amongst us | |||
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" You not got those full body condoms yet? Those are for the real clued up ones amongst us "I have got Leslie Neilson and Priscilla Presley bumping into each other stuck in my head now  | |||
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"Obviously the cheating partners are screwing strangers...... So hence we go back to the original question! Why bareback a total stranger.....? Why take such a risk? I have heard guys in the past moan about condoms and some women hate the feel of condoms. I use to meet a guy off here years ago saw a pic of him barebacking his latest meet. Got rid of him right away. Why people take the risk i think they are just thick in the head. Don't get me started on cheaters "If cheaters worry you, best retire from life. 99% of the guys I go with are married- they looove tgirls. lol. | |||
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" You not got those full body condoms yet? Those are for the real clued up ones amongst us
I have got Leslie Neilson and Priscilla Presley bumping into each other stuck in my head now "Ihad one- nearly suffacated.lol | |||
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" You not got those full body condoms yet? Those are for the real clued up ones amongst us
I have got Leslie Neilson and Priscilla Presley bumping into each other stuck in my head now "I'd forgotten totally about that scene!
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"Popcorn anyone??" Salted and sweet pls x | |||
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"Obviously the cheating partners are screwing strangers...... So hence we go back to the original question! Why bareback a total stranger.....? Why take such a risk? I have heard guys in the past moan about condoms and some women hate the feel of condoms. I use to meet a guy off here years ago saw a pic of him barebacking his latest meet. Got rid of him right away. Why people take the risk i think they are just thick in the head. Don't get me started on cheaters
Yep, they are stupid and ignorant. Not like us who use dental dams and insist that he put on a condom before oral sex and have him wear surgical latex gloves before he can insert even a finger in us. We are smartStupid?? Thick?? Facts are, you are more likely to die in a car accident- who's thick now?? Doh!"Nonsense Being thick, the fat will protect me just like a full-body air-bag | |||
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"Obviously the cheating partners are screwing strangers...... So hence we go back to the original question! Why bareback a total stranger.....? Why take such a risk? I have heard guys in the past moan about condoms and some women hate the feel of condoms. I use to meet a guy off here years ago saw a pic of him barebacking his latest meet. Got rid of him right away. Why people take the risk i think they are just thick in the head. Don't get me started on cheaters
Yep, they are stupid and ignorant. Not like us who use dental dams and insist that he put on a condom before oral sex and have him wear surgical latex gloves before he can insert even a finger in us. We are smartStupid?? Thick?? Facts are, you are more likely to die in a car accident- who's thick now?? Doh!
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Being thick, the fat will protect me just like a full-body air-bag
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"Obviously the cheating partners are screwing strangers...... So hence we go back to the original question! Why bareback a total stranger.....? Why take such a risk? I have heard guys in the past moan about condoms and some women hate the feel of condoms. I use to meet a guy off here years ago saw a pic of him barebacking his latest meet. Got rid of him right away. Why people take the risk i think they are just thick in the head. Don't get me started on cheaters
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Those are for the real clued up ones amongst us "Oh, full body condoms are soooo 20th century I now only use a virtual reality suit for sex | |||
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"Whats a 'Dental dam' is it sexxY?? " It's smaller than the Hoover Dam unless, one has a big mouth | |||
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"Have a look on amazon they have them on there." What SDI's an AIDS? bastards.-oh wait... | |||
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"Good for you if you go with married men if thats your thing "I go with anyone babe- an most go with me.lol | |||
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"Whats a 'Dental dam' is it sexxY?? It's smaller than the Hoover Dam unless, one has a big mouth"I gotta big mouth .x | |||
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"It's a good job some people still feel able to have bareback sex...otherwise there isn't go to be a human race in about 100 years...." There's rather a difference between having unprotected sex with someone you trust, who you're in a secure relationship with to bring up a child... and fucking random strangers on swingers sites. Lets hope not too many people are using fabs as a fertility clinic. | |||
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"Just recently I attended a house party with about 10-12 couples and additional 6-8 single guys with a female friend. One of the wives of a couple was engaging in bareback sex with 5 or 6 guys letting them all creampie her while the husband watched and was telling other guys to join. We were both disgusted by this and left without engaging in anything. Not sure what this couple was thinking or the guys having sex. All we heard was cheering her on. Really nasty but that's my opinion. " They were clearly taking a risk, having never attended a creampie party not one I've done, but I respect t their right to take that risk for something they enjoy Others do the same with smoking, excessive drinking, poor diet etc, all of what are probably worse in terms of mortality than HIV As long as people know the risks, and freely choose to take them, that's their business | |||
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"I'm not on any kind of contraception so bareback sex to me would take on a whole new issue hahaha It's just easier to wrap it up than face the consequences!" Although condoms are probably the least effective of the modern contraceptives in terms of the pregnancy rate using them | |||
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"Just recently I attended a house party with about 10-12 couples and additional 6-8 single guys with a female friend. One of the wives of a couple was engaging in bareback sex with 5 or 6 guys letting them all creampie her while the husband watched and was telling other guys to join. We were both disgusted by this and left without engaging in anything. Not sure what this couple was thinking or the guys having sex. All we heard was cheering her on. Really nasty but that's my opinion. " Did they know each other in advance / have a vetting process? It's not an uncommon fantasy for a lot of people, it's more the practical side of things that presents a problem | |||
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"I'm not on any kind of contraception so bareback sex to me would take on a whole new issue hahaha It's just easier to wrap it up than face the consequences! Although condoms are probably the least effective of the modern contraceptives in terms of the pregnancy rate using them " Unfortunately hormones and me don't go well together, so condoms are my only option! | |||
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"I'm not on any kind of contraception so bareback sex to me would take on a whole new issue hahaha It's just easier to wrap it up than face the consequences! Although condoms are probably the least effective of the modern contraceptives in terms of the pregnancy rate using them Unfortunately hormones and me don't go well together, so condoms are my only option!" Absolutely hormones don't suit everyone, and of course even though condoms aren't the best these days they're still a mile better than not using them pregnancy wise! | |||
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"I'm not on any kind of contraception so bareback sex to me would take on a whole new issue hahaha It's just easier to wrap it up than face the consequences! Although condoms are probably the least effective of the modern contraceptives in terms of the pregnancy rate using them " No form of contraception is 100% though you can get pregnant on the any. | |||
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"I'm not sure if they knew each other or not. There was a lot of introducing going on. Yes. It was there choice. No issue with that at all. We weren't the only people that were leaving. I was just mentioning our experience because of the thread. " I was just curious because the only way I've ever imagined a 'safe' gangbang was with a lot of semi-regular partners. Doesn't sound like the case here though, tut tut | |||
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"Just recently I attended a house party with about 10-12 couples and additional 6-8 single guys with a female friend. One of the wives of a couple was engaging in bareback sex with 5 or 6 guys letting them all creampie her while the husband watched and was telling other guys to join. We were both disgusted by this and left without engaging in anything. Not sure what this couple was thinking or the guys having sex. All we heard was cheering her on. Really nasty but that's my opinion. " Yeah, it is terrible And who knows how many guys had oral sex with her without them using condoms and her using a dental dam; tut, tut | |||
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"Shocked by how some folks think. It's not about right or wrong, it's not about choice nor is it about fun either. It's about morales, it's about being responsible. It's the principle one should stand by. I'm not being judgemental, but when someone stands there and watches 5 strangers cum in his wife...? I question their mental wellbeing " I think questioning people's mental health is a bit strong. | |||
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"Shocked by how some folks think. It's not about right or wrong, it's not about choice nor is it about fun either. It's about morales, it's about being responsible. It's the principle one should stand by. I'm not being judgemental, but when someone stands there and watches 5 strangers cum in his wife...? I question their mental wellbeing I think questioning people's mental health is a bit strong. " This fab....its a free thinking free expensive free speech forum...come on | |||
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"Shocked by how some folks think. It's not about right or wrong, it's not about choice nor is it about fun either. It's about morales, it's about being responsible. It's the principle one should stand by. I'm not being judgemental, but when someone stands there and watches 5 strangers cum in his wife...? I question their mental wellbeing I think questioning people's mental health is a bit strong. This fab....its a free thinking free expensive free speech forum...come on "Yep! That's why I'm speaking freely | |||
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"Shocked by how some folks think. It's not about right or wrong, it's not about choice nor is it about fun either. It's about morales, it's about being responsible. It's the principle one should stand by. I'm not being judgemental, but when someone stands there and watches 5 strangers cum in his wife...? I question their mental wellbeing I think questioning people's mental health is a bit strong. This fab....its a free thinking free expensive free speech forum...come on "Its not free speech on the forums i got banned twice years ago for speaking my mind about cheaters. | |||
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"Right i'm off before i say something that gets me into trouble "I've not been on naughty step for over a week now...I'm doing good | |||
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"Shocked by how some folks think. It's not about right or wrong, it's not about choice nor is it about fun either. It's about morales, it's about being responsible. It's the principle one should stand by. I'm not being judgemental, but when someone stands there and watches 5 strangers cum in his wife...? I question their mental wellbeing " I'm sure that the said someone will be glad you're not in a position to question his mental wellbeing . If he and his wife enjoy this , and all participants are willing , then let them be . None of us are in a position to cast aspersions on the mental wellbeing of anyone else and what they choose to partake of . | |||
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"Some people are very excitable. Funny how we miss the point when we become opinionated. The question was "is the risk worth taking considering the dangers?" There is no right or wrong here it's a matter of choice we get that...... I didn't ask what opinions people have on barebacking. " Few know how to engage without give opinions.....scan the forums. | |||
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"Shocked by how some folks think. It's not about right or wrong, it's not about choice nor is it about fun either. It's about morales, it's about being responsible. It's the principle one should stand by. I'm not being judgemental, but when someone stands there and watches 5 strangers cum in his wife...? I question their mental wellbeing I'd question the mental well being of anyone who believes in a God. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, it doesn't mean that it will be validated though. That is a lot of people you are questioning the mental wellbeing of! Many people seek comfort, reassurance and support in a higher power in different forms ... A higher power? It's easy to understand that providing they exist. Should we hijack this thread and turn it into a religious debate? The bareback one has been done to death and I'm sure people would prefer a change. " Haha, you know I was just thinking of the irony of that .... I am spiritual rather than religious myself, but do find it interesting that so many find comfort and security in religions. Hijack or start a new one? I am looking for cookbooks as I post, Mr is urging me to bed for some reason .... I look forward to seeing something in the morning | |||
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"600 people die of aids in uk each year on average there is no cure for aids" Over 1,700 are killed in RTAs each year. Should we ban driving to. It's not for me to be in favour or against bareback sex for others. It's their lives and their risk but trying to instill paranoia and fear in people by misrepresenting the facts or quoting them out of context seldom leads to a sensible discussion of anything. | |||
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"Shocked by how some folks think. It's not about right or wrong, it's not about choice nor is it about fun either. It's about morales, it's about being responsible. It's the principle one should stand by. I'm not being judgemental, but when someone stands there and watches 5 strangers cum in his wife...? I question their mental wellbeing I'd question the mental well being of anyone who believes in a God. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, it doesn't mean that it will be validated though. That is a lot of people you are questioning the mental wellbeing of! Many people seek comfort, reassurance and support in a higher power in different forms ... A higher power? It's easy to understand that providing they exist. Should we hijack this thread and turn it into a religious debate? The bareback one has been done to death and I'm sure people would prefer a change. Haha, you know I was just thinking of the irony of that .... I am spiritual rather than religious myself, but do find it interesting that so many find comfort and security in religions. Hijack or start a new one? I am looking for cookbooks as I post, Mr is urging me to bed for some reason .... I look forward to seeing something in the morning" I am a spiritualist rather than religious as well I have the gift of healing hands. | |||
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" Have attempted to stick it in without a Johnny many times with no resistance at all. Obviously most folks don't practice what they preach...... " Your post reads like they don't specify, so you just chance it and 'stick it in' bare without their knowledge. If they're expecting protection, your actions could be considered sexual assault. Proactive consent is the way forward. Don't just 'stick it in' and see if you get resistance. | |||
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"Although 99% percent of the profiles on Fab say "safe sex" Less than 30% insist on a condom. Have attempted to stick it in without a Johnny many times with no resistance at all. Obviously most folks don't practice what they preach...... " Errr pretty sure this comment totally contradicts your original post. It looks to me that you don't practice what you preach. | |||
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"yet another thread? And still so full of ignorance. You know what? Your parents had bareback sex" Yes but according to my father only the once, and she didn't take her nightie off! | |||
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"Very interesting thread, I find it funny how people compare accidents while driving to STI's there are far more people driving than there are having sex not everyone that gets infected gets reported but I'm sure every accident does due to insurance. Think what we should be asking is has the number of reported AIDS / STI's increased along with the popularity of swinging. A question I often ask my self is how safe is this lifestyle, has anyone from fab become infected, if they had would they take the moral high road and stop playing as well as inform previous partners. I always play safe while swinging but know it's not the case with everyone. I don't expect a reply just a thought." I was informed via Kik by a recent meet on fab (August actually) that she had been contacted by a previous meet regarding him being positive for gonnoreah....thanks to her for that. We have both since been tested and both all clear.....there is certainly stuff out there! But I will not judge. Each to there own and look after your own safety to whatever level you see as appropriate to the circumstances! | |||
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"..... there are far more people driving than there are having sex ..... It just seems that way because only a few are licenced to have sex But if you add up all the unlicensed people having sex you find that there is more sex going on than than there is driving" Shit! Do we need a licence for sex, will they back date? | |||
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"..... But if you add up all the unlicensed people having sex you find that there is more sex going on than than there is driving" That might seem that way at first but what you have to remember is that those people driving are probably doing so everyday some times 2 to 3 times a day making it a greater risk, the amount of people having unprotected sex might be high but I can guarantee they will not be having sex with multiple partners as frequently as those people driving every day. It's not the total amount of people but rather the frequency they participate in dangerous activities. So in my example there are far more instances of people driving dangerously either with or with out licences than there are instances of people having unprotected sex with strangers. | |||
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"..... there are far more people driving than there are having sex ..... It just seems that way because only a few are licenced to have sex But if you add up all the unlicensed people having sex you find that there is more sex going on than than there is driving Shit! Do we need a licence for sex, will they back date? "I think there is a backdoor route that gets round having to have a licence. I can show you how if you want. he he | |||
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"Very interesting thread, I find it funny how people compare accidents while driving to STI's there are far more people driving than there are having sex not everyone that gets infected gets reported but I'm sure every accident does due to insurance. Think what we should be asking is has the number of reported AIDS / STI's increased along with the popularity of swinging. A question I often ask my self is how safe is this lifestyle, has anyone from fab become infected, if they had would they take the moral high road and stop playing as well as inform previous partners. I always play safe while swinging but know it's not the case with everyone. I don't expect a reply just a thought." There was a forumite tested positive for HIV, bravely posted about his status and was hung, drawn and quartered for it. He left the site soon after. Thing is when you meet people for sex (doesn't have to be strangers) it's a calculated risk. | |||
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"Very interesting thread, I find it funny how people compare accidents while driving to STI's there are far more people driving than there are having sex not everyone that gets infected gets reported but I'm sure every accident does due to insurance. Think what we should be asking is has the number of reported AIDS / STI's increased along with the popularity of swinging. A question I often ask my self is how safe is this lifestyle, has anyone from fab become infected, if they had would they take the moral high road and stop playing as well as inform previous partners. I always play safe while swinging but know it's not the case with everyone. I don't expect a reply just a thought. There was a forumite tested positive for HIV, bravely posted about his status and was hung, drawn and quartered for it. He left the site soon after. Thing is when you meet people for sex (doesn't have to be strangers) it's a calculated risk. " Was he not the one who said he was "undetectable" and therefore couldnt infect anyone and so continued not to use a condom? | |||
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" Have attempted to stick it in without a Johnny many times with no resistance at all. Errrr if condoms have been agreed before hand what youve just worte there is that you have attempted rape many times. (And seemingly succeed on some occasions ) So you start a thread about why anyone would risk not using condoms then you admit you have reguarly attempted to stick your dick in women with no condom on Wtf?" If people mutually decide to bareback that is their decision. However, anybody tried that ^ to me they'd get a slap to the face if not a punch in the balls! I've been with guys who have said they use condoms then wanted to bareback in person. I refuse and make it foreplay only. Its appalling to just stick it in and hope they don't notice. I will admit though that I don't always practise oral safe sex. However, my personal choice to mitigate the risks is I never allow people to cum in my mouth. | |||
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" Others do the same with smoking, excessive drinking, poor diet etc, all of what are probably worse in terms of mortality than HIV As long as people know the risks, and freely choose to take them, that's their business " Having HIV does in no way affect mortality if you are on medication. Also. NO ONE dies from HIV and no one dies of AIDS. Illness related to AIDS yes, if that person has not taken medication. It is also worth pointing out, if a person living ith HIV and is on medication, the likelihood of transmission is SO unlikely that doctors would not offer PrEp to a negative partner after bareback sex. There a quite a fewpeople who would rather sleep with someone positive and on meds than take the risk of a random. Still amazed at the lack of knowledge surrounding HIV. Get the facts, and get tested. | |||
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" Others do the same with smoking, excessive drinking, poor diet etc, all of what are probably worse in terms of mortality than HIV As long as people know the risks, and freely choose to take them, that's their business Having HIV does in no way affect mortality if you are on medication. Also. NO ONE dies from HIV and no one dies of AIDS. Illness related to AIDS yes, if that person has not taken medication. It is also worth pointing out, if a person living ith HIV and is on medication, the likelihood of transmission is SO unlikely that doctors would not offer PrEp to a negative partner after bareback sex. There a quite a fewpeople who would rather sleep with someone positive and on meds than take the risk of a random. Still amazed at the lack of knowledge surrounding HIV. Get the facts, and get tested." | |||
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" Others do the same with smoking, excessive drinking, poor diet etc, all of what are probably worse in terms of mortality than HIV As long as people know the risks, and freely choose to take them, that's their business Having HIV does in no way affect mortality if you are on medication. Also. NO ONE dies from HIV and no one dies of AIDS. Illness related to AIDS yes, if that person has not taken medication. It is also worth pointing out, if a person living ith HIV and is on medication, the likelihood of transmission is SO unlikely that doctors would not offer PrEp to a negative partner after bareback sex. There a quite a fewpeople who would rather sleep with someone positive and on meds than take the risk of a random. Still amazed at the lack of knowledge surrounding HIV. Get the facts, and get tested." That might be true and their choice,but when it comes to informing people of the risks would you say they have a obligation to inform people of their HIV status even if the risk of passing it on is minimal? I understand that bareback is a risk and a choice but if one of the people has hidden their HIV status surely they are allowing the other person to make an uninformed choice. I would not choose to sleep with a person that has HIV or an STI even with protection. | |||
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" Others do the same with smoking, excessive drinking, poor diet etc, all of what are probably worse in terms of mortality than HIV As long as people know the risks, and freely choose to take them, that's their business Having HIV does in no way affect mortality if you are on medication. Also. NO ONE dies from HIV and no one dies of AIDS. Illness related to AIDS yes, if that person has not taken medication. It is also worth pointing out, if a person living ith HIV and is on medication, the likelihood of transmission is SO unlikely that doctors would not offer PrEp to a negative partner after bareback sex. There a quite a fewpeople who would rather sleep with someone positive and on meds than take the risk of a random. Still amazed at the lack of knowledge surrounding HIV. Get the facts, and get tested. That might be true and their choice,but when it comes to informing people of the risks would you say they have a obligation to inform people of their HIV status even if the risk of passing it on is minimal? I understand that bareback is a risk and a choice but if one of the people has hidden their HIV status surely they are allowing the other person to make an uninformed choice. I would not choose to sleep with a person that has HIV or an STI even with protection. " Nobody is obligated to tell you or anyone else, anything whatsoever It is up to each one of us to remain safe. And if that for you means that you do not want to risk having even protected sex with someone who is a HIV carrier (or any other STI), then you may be better off not ever having sex ever with anyone | |||
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"I have a question for the pro bare back people. Would you get in a car with a d*unk driver? What if that driver was a stranger? I compare it to drink driving as we all have either driven or caught a lift with a person while d*unk. Or would you go out of your house and cross the road, just in case a d*unk driver ran you over?" Crossing the road and getting into a car with a d*unk driver are two different things. I take it by your response you would happily get into a strangers car with a driver that has d*unken excessively. | |||
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