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 All part of it. Got to love a sensual, passionate kiss!! | |||
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 It's a non issue for me.
I don't think people should be made to stipulate anything on their profiles. | |||
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"I always ask about any potential deal breakers before even getting to the talking about meeting stage because I'm smart It's a non issue for me.
I don't think people should be made to stipulate anything on their profiles." ...I agree and I am learning to do the same thing. | |||
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"I understand if others find the act of kissing 'too intimate'...this is usually the reason sited for not allowing it. However, I have always found the idea that oral sex and penetration (perhaps of every orifice) is considered less so ?? As I have said, for me (and in my experience most others), kissing is just a natural activity when indulging in sexual activity with people we are attracted to..indeed it is the most natural first base and expression of that mutual attraction. Perhaps I am simply not able to be purely 'animalistic' in terms of how I have sex. Also, I find it bizarre when some people say that they don't kiss because it is 'just sex'. To my mind it is 'just sex' with kissing as much as without. ...Without kissing it is more akin to 'masturbation' with the aid of another persons body parts instead of toys. "We state on our profile that we reserve passionate kissing for each other. We never explain or justify our reasons for any of our preferences or boundaries though. As to not understanding other people's way of doing things you dont really need to but what we do with other people isn't akin to masturbation or purely animalistic...what do you take us for? If it's important that you do kiss put it on your profile, if its important that you dont put it on your profile it really is that simple, no need for any angst over why other people choose not to. | |||
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"As to not understanding other people's way of doing things you dont really need to but what we do with other people isn't akin to masturbation or purely animalistic...what do you take us for? " I did not mean offence - simply expressing how it makes me feel like simply a 'cock attached to a random man' if no kissing is involved. I absolutely understand if others feel differently. I am sorry if I did not communicate this very diplomatically  | |||
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"I understand if others find the act of kissing 'too intimate'...this is usually the reason sited for not allowing it. However, I have always found the idea that oral sex and penetration (perhaps of every orifice) is considered less so ?? As I have said, for me (and in my experience most others), kissing is just a natural activity when indulging in sexual activity with people we are attracted to..indeed it is the most natural first base and expression of that mutual attraction. Perhaps I am simply not able to be purely 'animalistic' in terms of how I have sex. Also, I find it bizarre when some people say that they don't kiss because it is 'just sex'. To my mind it is 'just sex' with kissing as much as without. ...Without kissing it is more akin to 'masturbation' with the aid of another persons body parts instead of toys.
We state on our profile that we reserve passionate kissing for each other. We never explain or justify our reasons for any of our preferences or boundaries though.
As to not understanding other people's way of doing things you dont really need to but what we do with other people isn't akin to masturbation or purely animalistic...what do you take us for?
If it's important that you do kiss put it on your profile, if its important that you dont put it on your profile it really is that simple, no need for any angst over why other people choose not to."Well said. If they don't like it then tough.not everyone like the same thing. | |||
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet?" yes I agree its a ridiculous stipulation but then some are a little weird about likes and dislikes but I do find that one of the strangest ,all good sex comes from kissing ,people who make that stipulation are just their to use you and spit you out | |||
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"As to not understanding other people's way of doing things you dont really need to but what we do with other people isn't akin to masturbation or purely animalistic...what do you take us for? I did not mean offence - simply expressing how it makes me feel like simply a 'cock attached to a random man' if no kissing is involved. I absolutely understand if others feel differently. I am sorry if I did not communicate this very diplomatically "That's ok there has been no offence taken. There have been a few threads recently in which people say much the same as you, you aren't alone. | |||
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet?yes I agree its a ridiculous stipulation but then some are a little weird about likes and dislikes but I do find that one of the strangest ,all good sex comes from kissing ,people who make that stipulation are just their to use you and spit you out "But some people LIKE being used and spat out. | |||
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"I explicitly state that I like kissing in my profile. And the majority of messages I get where the person has read the text will mention that. Why not add it to your profile OP? Xx" I might well do that, however, I assume (perhaps wrongly) that most people enjoy it (certainly that has nearly always been my experience when meeting). Hence feeling that it is perhaps the responsibility of that minority who do not enjoy this activity to make it clear on their profiles that they do not. | |||
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"I understand if others find the act of kissing 'too intimate'...this is usually the reason sited for not allowing it. However, I have always found the idea that oral sex and penetration (perhaps of every orifice) is considered less so ?? As I have said, for me (and in my experience most others), kissing is just a natural activity when indulging in sexual activity with people we are attracted to..indeed it is the most natural first base and expression of that mutual attraction. Perhaps I am simply not able to be purely 'animalistic' in terms of how I have sex. Also, I find it bizarre when some people say that they don't kiss because it is 'just sex'. To my mind it is 'just sex' with kissing as much as without. ...Without kissing it is more akin to 'masturbation' with the aid of another persons body parts instead of toys.
We state on our profile that we reserve passionate kissing for each other. We never explain or justify our reasons for any of our preferences or boundaries though.
As to not understanding other people's way of doing things you dont really need to but what we do with other people isn't akin to masturbation or purely animalistic...what do you take us for?
If it's important that you do kiss put it on your profile, if its important that you dont put it on your profile it really is that simple, no need for any angst over why other people choose not to.
Well said.
If they don't like it then tough.not everyone like the same thing.
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"I have seen this a few times on profiles but I'm not sure I understand the reason, I'm not knocking it in any way, maybe some find it more intimate than intercourse ....." Some people don't like it, same as some don't like anal or oral. You don't need to understand it , just respect it. I only really kiss Mr. I don't refuse to kiss but I find majority of guys both single and in couples won't instigate it. I'd never put no kissing as there are the odd time I've found it okay but I tend to kiss Mr to get me going then swap.. And I have to say in all my years of swinging I have found that majority of men don't even notice I avoid it and certainly don't find me cold. For me kissing is something that I feel is very personal and intimate and sex with meets is anything but intimate. Where as sex with my partner is and I adore the kissing and the teasing. X | |||
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"I explicitly state that I like kissing in my profile. And the majority of messages I get where the person has read the text will mention that. Why not add it to your profile OP? Xx I might well do that, however, I assume (perhaps wrongly) that most people enjoy it (certainly that has nearly always been my experience when meeting). Hence feeling that it is perhaps the responsibility of that minority who do not enjoy this activity to make it clear on their profiles that they do not." We all have a responsibility to ourselves on here, it goes no further than that in my opinion. | |||
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"Further more (and again I might be wrong), but I would assume that there would be very few men who would object to the prospect of kissing and imagine that it is usually women who can find this act too intimate. I would interested to hear if any fellas out there are uncomfortable with it." You assume that women don't want to kiss because it's too intimate, this might not be the case. | |||
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"Find it too "cold" if no kissing allowed!" | |||
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"Further more (and again I might be wrong), but I would assume that there would be very few men who would object to the prospect of kissing and imagine that it is usually women who can find this act too intimate. I would interested to hear if any fellas out there are uncomfortable with it. You assume that women don't want to kiss because it's too intimate, this might not be the case." No, its just that in the two cases which I have experience where it is off limits this has been sited as the reason.. | |||
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"I think anything which is specifically off limits should be specified in the profile - saves wasting time" | |||
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet?yes I agree its a ridiculous stipulation but then some are a little weird about likes and dislikes but I do find that one of the strangest ,all good sex comes from kissing ,people who make that stipulation are just their to use you and spit you out
But some people LIKE being used and spat out.
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" Further more (and again I might be wrong), but I would assume that there would be very few men who would object to the prospect of kissing and imagine that it is usually women who can find this act too intimate. I would interested to hear if any fellas out there are uncomfortable with it. You assume that women don't want to kiss because it's too intimate, this might not be the case. No, its just that in the two cases which I have experience where it is off limits this has been sited as the reason.." Two is hardly a huge sample of the population .
We could argue this for ever but when it comes down to it people do things differently but not kissing and not liking oral sex seem to be the two most difficult to accept with having pubic hair running a close third but becoming more acceptable.
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet?yes I agree its a ridiculous stipulation but then some are a little weird about likes and dislikes but I do find that one of the strangest ,all good sex comes from kissing ,people who make that stipulation are just their to use you and spit you out
But some people LIKE being used and spat out.
not me I'm afraid like something a little more meaningful "Kissing doesn't make things meaningful, that's illusion. | |||
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"I think anything which is specifically off limits should be specified in the profile - saves wasting time" This. | |||
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet?" Surely owness is on you to stipulate kissing is a must in your profile text, which would also avoid disappointment | |||
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet?yes I agree its a ridiculous stipulation but then some are a little weird about likes and dislikes but I do find that one of the strangest ,all good sex comes from kissing ,people who umake that stipulation are just their to use you and spit you out
But some people LIKE being used and spat out.
not me I'm afraid like something a little more meaningful
Kissing doesn't make things meaningful, that's illusion."didn't say it did but someone who opts out of it is certainly not looking for anything other than sex meaningless NSA | |||
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"I explicitly state that I like kissing in my profile. And the majority of messages I get where the person has read the text will mention that. Why not add it to your profile OP? Xx I might well do that, however, I assume (perhaps wrongly) that most people enjoy it (certainly that has nearly always been my experience when meeting). Hence feeling that it is perhaps the responsibility of that minority who do not enjoy this activity to make it clear on their profiles that they do not." Never assume... We're all responsible for our own profiles - you need to kiss, let potential meets know you need to kiss and put it in your profile. | |||
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet?yes I agree its a ridiculous stipulation but then some are a little weird about likes and dislikes but I do find that one of the strangest ,all good sex comes from kissing ,people who umake that stipulation are just their to use you and spit you out
But some people LIKE being used and spat out.
not me I'm afraid like something a little more meaningful
Kissing doesn't make things meaningful, that's illusion. didn't say it did but someone who opts out of it is certainly not looking for anything other than sex meaningless NSA "If that's what they want, what's the problem? | |||
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Our meets wouldn't include kissing except between me and my husband, i would find it a massive turn off to see my husband kissing any guys we meet. | |||
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet?yes I agree its a ridiculous stipulation but then some are a little weird about likes and dislikes but I do find that one of the strangest ,all good sex comes from kissing ,people who umake that stipulation are just their to use you and spit you out
But some people LIKE being used and spat out.
not me I'm afraid like something a little more meaningful
Kissing doesn't make things meaningful, that's illusion. didn't say it did but someone who opts out of it is certainly not looking for anything other than sex meaningless NSA
If that's what they want, what's the problem?"just debating the subject I don't have a problem with the subject matter ,do you opt out of kissing then ? | |||
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"I think that if something is a deal breaker then it should be mentioned on the profile. Thinks like no kissing or soft swap only, saves any misunderstanding at a later date." This. If people have specific likes and dislikes, it's best to put on profile, that way there are no misunderstandings, ...hopefully!! | |||
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet?yes I agree its a ridiculous stipulation but then some are a little weird about likes and dislikes but I do find that one of the strangest ,all good sex comes from kissing ,people who umake that stipulation are just their to use you and spit you out
But some people LIKE being used and spat out.
not me I'm afraid like something a little more meaningful
Kissing doesn't make things meaningful, that's illusion. didn't say it did but someone who opts out of it is certainly not looking for anything other than sex meaningless NSA
If that's what they want, what's the problem? just debating the subject I don't have a problem with the subject matter ,do you opt out of kissing then ? "You only do what you are comfortable with and what you wanna experience with other people.what turns you on etc.lots of couples here looking for different things if they not for you then pass them by. How do you liss your own partner then? Less pationate or more? | |||
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet?yes I agree its a ridiculous stipulation but then some are a little weird about likes and dislikes but I do find that one of the strangest ,all good sex comes from kissing ,people who umake that stipulation are just their to use you and spit you out
But some people LIKE being used and spat out.
not me I'm afraid like something a little more meaningful
Kissing doesn't make things meaningful, that's illusion. didn't say it did but someone who opts out of it is certainly not looking for anything other than sex meaningless NSA
If that's what they want, what's the problem? just debating the subject I don't have a problem with the subject matter ,do you opt out of kissing then ?
You only do what you are comfortable with and what you wanna experience with other people.what turns you on etc.lots of couples here looking for different things if they not for you then pass them by.
How do you liss your own partner then? Less pationate or more?
"that last paragraph didn't make sense I don't have a partner at the moment but I do love a good kisser I met one off here when I first joined we only had social meets but wow great kisser | |||
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet?yes I agree its a ridiculous stipulation but then some are a little weird about likes and dislikes but I do find that one of the strangest ,all good sex comes from kissing ,people who umake that stipulation are just their to use you and spit you out
But some people LIKE being used and spat out.
not me I'm afraid like something a little more meaningful
Kissing doesn't make things meaningful, that's illusion. didn't say it did but someone who opts out of it is certainly not looking for anything other than sex meaningless NSA
If that's what they want, what's the problem? just debating the subject I don't have a problem with the subject matter ,do you opt out of kissing then ?
You only do what you are comfortable with and what you wanna experience with other people.what turns you on etc.lots of couples here looking for different things if they not for you then pass them by.
How do you liss your own partner then? Less pationate or more?
that last paragraph didn't make sense I don't have a partner at the moment but I do love a good kisser I met one off here when I first joined we only had social meets but wow great kisser "Sorry put in a wrong box. Meant for couples But hey I know whst you mean as a single. That's a different story. If I was a single yes kissing is a must. | |||
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"Everything starts with a kiss doesn't it and it's very important to me,however I do meet someone who doesn't which was a bit alien at first,but I'm kinda used to it now. Maybe I'm a crap kisser "No, you are a great kisser!! xxx | |||
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet?yes I agree its a ridiculous stipulation but then some are a little weird about likes and dislikes but I do find that one of the strangest ,all good sex comes from kissing ,people who umake that stipulation are just their to use you and spit you out
But some people LIKE being used and spat out.
not me I'm afraid like something a little more meaningful
Kissing doesn't make things meaningful, that's illusion. didn't say it did but someone who opts out of it is certainly not looking for anything other than sex meaningless NSA "Pretty much all sex with someone from Fab is meaningless NSA sex, with or without kissing. | |||
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet?yes I agree its a ridiculous stipulation but then some are a little weird about likes and dislikes but I do find that one of the strangest ,all good sex comes from kissing ,people who umake that stipulation are just their to use you and spit you out
But some people LIKE being used and spat out.
not me I'm afraid like something a little more meaningful
Kissing doesn't make things meaningful, that's illusion. didn't say it did but someone who opts out of it is certainly not looking for anything other than sex meaningless NSA
Pretty much all sex with someone from Fab is meaningless NSA sex, with or without kissing.
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet?yes I agree its a ridiculous stipulation but then some are a little weird about likes and dislikes but I do find that one of the strangest ,all good sex comes from kissing ,people who umake that stipulation are just their to use you and spit you out
But some people LIKE being used and spat out.
not me I'm afraid like something a little more meaningful
Kissing doesn't make things meaningful, that's illusion. didn't say it did but someone who opts out of it is certainly not looking for anything other than sex meaningless NSA
Pretty much all sex with someone from Fab is meaningless NSA sex, with or without kissing.
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet?yes I agree its a ridiculous stipulation but then some are a little weird about likes and dislikes but I do find that one of the strangest ,all good sex comes from kissing ,people who umake that stipulation are just their to use you and spit you out
But some people LIKE being used and spat out.
not me I'm afraid like something a little more meaningful
Kissing doesn't make things meaningful, that's illusion. didn't say it did but someone who opts out of it is certainly not looking for anything other than sex meaningless NSA
Pretty much all sex with someone from Fab is meaningless NSA sex, with or without kissing.
it hasn't been for me I would say welcome back but knew you wouldn't be gone for long ,happy new year "You talk about me as if you know me. You don't and you don't know the reason why I left or why I came back. | |||
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet?yes I agree its a ridiculous stipulation but then some are a little weird about likes and dislikes but I do find that one of the strangest ,all good sex comes from kissing ,people who umake that stipulation are just their to use you and spit you out
But some people LIKE being used and spat out.
not me I'm afraid like something a little more meaningful
Kissing doesn't make things meaningful, that's illusion. didn't say it did but someone who opts out of it is certainly not looking for anything other than sex meaningless NSA
Pretty much all sex with someone from Fab is meaningless NSA sex, with or without kissing.
it hasn't been for me I would say welcome back but knew you wouldn't be gone for long ,happy new year
You talk about me as if you know me. You don't and you don't know the reason why I left or why I came back."I don't know you true but know you are ennamered with this place and as it happens I was right to think you would be back as here you are ,I don't know why you left that's true | |||
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"Without kissing Is so cold and I couldn't do it .Think I'd rather not meet anyone if that was stated .sounds weird no kissing but going to do oral or full sex . "agree with you but its also a free world and people can have whatever preferences they want and surely its better to sayso befor a meeting rather than at a meet | |||
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agree with you but its also a free world and people can have whatever preferences they want and surely its better to sayso befor a meeting rather than at a meet "Yeah I agree all can say what they want on profile it's there choice .But not mine nothing nicer than a snog . | |||
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"Without kissing Is so cold and I couldn't do it .Think I'd rather not meet anyone if that was stated .sounds weird no kissing but going to do oral or full sex .
Then I will own up to being weird."Ditto. Weird'un's here too! x | |||
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"Everything starts with a kiss doesn't it and it's very important to me,however I do meet someone who doesn't which was a bit alien at first,but I'm kinda used to it now. Maybe I'm a crap kisser
No, you are a great kisser!! xxx"Oh right,that's great to hear . He's more than a fuck and go so I let him off. | |||
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet?yes I agree its a ridiculous stipulation but then some are a little weird about likes and dislikes but I do find that one of the strangest ,all good sex comes from kissing ,people who make that stipulation are just their to use you and spit you out
But some people LIKE being used and spat out.
not me I'm afraid like something a little more meaningful
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"Without kissing Is so cold and I couldn't do it .Think I'd rather not meet anyone if that was stated .sounds weird no kissing but going to do oral or full sex .
Then I will own up to being weird."We play regularly in clubs and have fantastic sex without me kissing men - and believe me the sex is anything but cold or weird. And judging by the number of offers to join in there are plenty of guys who would be more than happy to play without kissing I love to kiss other women, and don't mind my partner kissing them either - personally I prefer not to. As for putting it on our profile, should I also stipulate that I don't like anal, fisting, nipple clamps, pegging, urination, sadism...... and all the other things that some people enjoy just in case someone who does want it might expect me to do it. If someone doesn't want to fuck me because I won't definitely kiss them that's fine with me - there are plenty of men that will. I swing for great sex not for romance and to me kissing is romantic and so largely reserved for my partner | |||
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"Without kissing Is so cold and I couldn't do it .Think I'd rather not meet anyone if that was stated .sounds weird no kissing but going to do oral or full sex .
Then I will own up to being weird.
We play regularly in clubs and have fantastic sex without me kissing men - and believe me the sex is anything but cold or weird. And judging by the number of offers to join in there are plenty of guys who would be more than happy to play without kissing
I love to kiss other women, and don't mind my partner kissing them either - personally I prefer not to.
As for putting it on our profile, should I also stipulate that I don't like anal, fisting, nipple clamps, pegging, urination, sadism...... and all the other things that some people enjoy just in case someone who does want it might expect me to do it.
If someone doesn't want to fuck me because I won't definitely kiss them that's fine with me - there are plenty of men that will. I swing for great sex not for romance and to me kissing is romantic and so largely reserved for my partner"Excellent
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"Without kissing Is so cold and I couldn't do it .Think I'd rather not meet anyone if that was stated .sounds weird no kissing but going to do oral or full sex .
Then I will own up to being weird.
We play regularly in clubs and have fantastic sex without me kissing men - and believe me the sex is anything but cold or weird. And judging by the number of offers to join in there are plenty of guys who would be more than happy to play without kissing
I love to kiss other women, and don't mind my partner kissing them either - personally I prefer not to.
As for putting it on our profile, should I also stipulate that I don't like anal, fisting, nipple clamps, pegging, urination, sadism...... and all the other things that some people enjoy just in case someone who does want it might expect me to do it.
If someone doesn't want to fuck me because I won't definitely kiss them that's fine with me - there are plenty of men that will. I swing for great sex not for romance and to me kissing is romantic and so largely reserved for my partner
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"Without kissing Is so cold and I couldn't do it .Think I'd rather not meet anyone if that was stated .sounds weird no kissing but going to do oral or full sex .
Then I will own up to being weird.
We play regularly in clubs and have fantastic sex without me kissing men - and believe me the sex is anything but cold or weird. And judging by the number of offers to join in there are plenty of guys who would be more than happy to play without kissing
I love to kiss other women, and don't mind my partner kissing them either - personally I prefer not to.
As for putting it on our profile, should I also stipulate that I don't like anal, fisting, nipple clamps, pegging, urination, sadism...... and all the other things that some people enjoy just in case someone who does want it might expect me to do it.
If someone doesn't want to fuck me because I won't definitely kiss them that's fine with me - there are plenty of men that will. I swing for great sex not for romance and to me kissing is romantic and so largely reserved for my partner" | |||
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"We don't necessarily have a no kissing rule but kissing others is not important to us and neither of us instigate it. If someone tries to kiss us then it doesn't happen for very long. We respect others' rules and don't question it, I don't think it's weird. We don't allow play bites, love bites or raking nails down backs, ie anything that will leave marks on us. I don't understand the argument over wanting 'something meaningful' and choosing couples to play with. That single person who joins them is never going to enjoy the level of intimacy they share. " | |||
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"Without kissing Is so cold and I couldn't do it .Think I'd rather not meet anyone if that was stated .sounds weird no kissing but going to do oral or full sex .
Then I will own up to being weird.
We play regularly in clubs and have fantastic sex without me kissing men - and believe me the sex is anything but cold or weird. And judging by the number of offers to join in there are plenty of guys who would be more than happy to play without kissing
I love to kiss other women, and don't mind my partner kissing them either - personally I prefer not to.
As for putting it on our profile, should I also stipulate that I don't like anal, fisting, nipple clamps, pegging, urination, sadism...... and all the other things that some people enjoy just in case someone who does want it might expect me to do it.
If someone doesn't want to fuck me because I won't definitely kiss them that's fine with me - there are plenty of men that will. I swing for great sex not for romance and to me kissing is romantic and so largely reserved for my partner" THIS !!!! | |||
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet?" You're a good man. You're the first guy I have heard of that cancelled a meet because they don't kiss. | |||
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet? You're a good man. You're the first guy I have heard of that cancelled a meet because they don't kiss. " Thank you...not sure I am a good man, but perhaps just fortunate enough to be able to be picky...at the end of the day any meet should be all about mutual enjoyment | |||
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet? You're a good man. You're the first guy I have heard of that cancelled a meet because they don't kiss. Thank you...not sure I am a good man, but perhaps just fortunate enough to be able to be picky...at the end of the day any meet should be all about mutual enjoyment "Spot on , and long may it stay that way . We would far sooner meet a confident guy who wanted the same from a meet as we do , than a desperado who would compromise his needs for the sake of getting a meet . Good man | |||
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"I find kissing is a crucial part of erotic play, regardless of whether the encounter is fairly sensual or more hardcore. Without it I struggle with arousal and find the who meet to be too 'cold' and mechanical. I recently had a meet lined up and then later remembered to enquire about kissing only be told that it was off limits so we decided to abort. Do you think people should specify stipulate their objection to kissing on their profile so that any confusion or disappointment can be avoided or should the owness be on a potential play partner to enquire before setting up a meet? You're a good man. You're the first guy I have heard of that cancelled a meet because they don't kiss. Thank you...not sure I am a good man, but perhaps just fortunate enough to be able to be picky...at the end of the day any meet should be all about mutual enjoyment
Spot on , and long may it stay that way .
We would far sooner meet a confident guy who wanted the same from a meet as we do , than a desperado who would compromise his needs for the sake of getting a meet .
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"It's surprising not to mention that in the profile, but maybe people forget. We would look at kissing as a usual element of meets, and expect no kissing to be mentioned in the same way that soft swap is. Otherwise you won't assume that is what people are after." That's kind of how I see it, but from the contributions to the thread, clearly others think differently | |||
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"If someone didn't kiss, then I wouldn't meet. To me, kissing is the first stage of physical attraction & lust and it's one of the things that gets me really turned on - actually, the effects it has are pretty extreme! I've had threesomes with a couple where myself & the other woman didn't kiss, and for me that felt like we were going through the motions." Very much how I consider the importance of kissing too | |||
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"As for putting it on our profile, should I also stipulate that I don't like anal, fisting, nipple clamps, pegging, urination, sadism...... and all the other things that some people enjoy just in case someone who does want it might expect me to do it. " Really don't think that many people here would equate kissing with anal, fisting, nipple clamps, pegging, urination, or sadism, or expect all those things to be as usually a part of meets as kissing is. So you can safely put 'no kissing' on your profile, without assuming people will then expect you to piss on them. | |||
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"So you can safely put 'no kissing' on your profile, without assuming people will then expect you to piss on them. " LMAO...fair point I feel! | |||
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"I've never met a single guy who does not kiss, its only ever been couples in my experience who have this rule What I never get us couple who don't kiss because its to intimate but she's kisses women, what's that all about? When I read that it always makes me feel the guys pulling the strings and only allowing what he wants to see I find sex without kissing way to clinical " Exactly our point too xx | |||
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"I've never met a single guy who does not kiss, its only ever been couples in my experience who have this rule What I never get us couple who don't kiss because its to intimate but she's kisses women, what's that all about? When I read that it always makes me feel the guys pulling the strings and only allowing what he wants to see I find sex without kissing way to clinical " Yes, couples where 'she only kisses women' is quite common I believe....I don't really get it either, but again, it is their prerogative, only not my thing....I am absolutely sure plenty of single guys are fine with this... | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance." No...choose the couples who are happy with that level of intimacy (and there are many!)...at least that is how I choose to play it. | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance." Kissing is nothing to do with intimacy or romance Sex is sex kissing is kissing if you can differentiate the difference between having a shag and making love why not do the same with kissing? I have no intentions of sharing the same level of intamacy with a guy as his wife, I just want a good session with him, but for me kissing is an important part of sex, and though I respect everybody's rules I just wouldnt meet anybody that does not kiss, I find it just odd that my mouth is good enough to shove your cock in but not kiss | |||
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"Can I also add its amazing how many couples who don't kiss try to kiss you when their other half isnt about I think there are many halves of couples who don't kiss because they are not told not to rather than choosing not to "You have a dim view of couples | |||
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"We don't stipulate everything we do and don't on our profiles, as it depends on who we are meeting whether certain things will happen. Nothing more off putting than a long list of dos and don'ts. We chat and explain through messaging what we expect, what the other person expects etc and go from there." I think a great many people do that. What they don't do is take to the forums in surprise when they discover someone who does things differently to them. | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance." Quite simply, this | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this "Sorry, the above implies that ALL couples find the idea of kissing play partners 'overly intimate'. From both my experience and from the many contributions by couples to this thread this is NOT the case. The idea that anyone who enjoys kissing as part of the play should necessarily avoid meeting with couples is preposterous! | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this "Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it. | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this
Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it."Well, fortunately not all couples feel like you do and fortunately I am perfectly free to meet with only those who don't!! | |||
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"We don't stipulate everything we do and don't on our profiles, as it depends on who we are meeting whether certain things will happen. Nothing more off putting than a long list of dos and don'ts. We chat and explain through messaging what we expect, what the other person expects etc and go from there. I think a great many people do that. What they don't do is take to the forums in surprise when they discover someone who does things differently to them." | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance." That's a sweeping generalised statement ! Way off the truth in our case though . The horniest part of a meet is seeing the intimacy and romance being shared . A quick shag with no intimacy would be meaningless to us , no value at all . I love seeing the desire and erotic passion which can't exist without the kissing . | |||
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" what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. " How does pointing out that I find kissing to me an important and integral part of any sex encounter (whether with a couple or single woman) have anything to do with 'considering myself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner'???
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Kissing is nothing to do with intimacy or romance Sex is sex kissing is kissing if you can differentiate the difference between having a shag and making love why not do the same with kissing? I have no intentions of sharing the same level of intamacy with a guy as his wife, I just want a good session with him, but for me kissing is an important part of sex, and though I respect everybody's rules I just wouldnt meet anybody that does not kiss, I find it just odd that my mouth is good enough to shove your cock in but not kiss " Just because you think it, doesn't mean that the couple involved have the same rule. Kissing might be in the same bracket as sex to you, but it isn't to everyone and the choices should be respected. Many prostitutes don't kiss punters for the same reason. Lots of people say that if you have your mouth around their genitals or having sex with them then surely you can kiss. Many people can disassociate from a sexual act like penetrative or oral sex but they find it difficult to do so with kissing. Thus is because kissing is associated with affection and love, from the kiss of our mothers to the kiss of a lover (oo sounds like a bit of poetry there). They view this act as something shared between close relationships, lovers, family, friends, but not strangers. | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this
Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it."Wow ! It's any wonder couples are viewed as self centred and demanding with this kind of attitude ! The day we see a guy as an extra cock is the day we stop swinging . If he is made to feel this way he would be better off staying at home and having a wank . | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Kissing is nothing to do with intimacy or romance Sex is sex kissing is kissing if you can differentiate the difference between having a shag and making love why not do the same with kissing? I have no intentions of sharing the same level of intamacy with a guy as his wife, I just want a good session with him, but for me kissing is an important part of sex, and though I respect everybody's rules I just wouldnt meet anybody that does not kiss, I find it just odd that my mouth is good enough to shove your cock in but not kiss Just because you think it, doesn't mean that the couple involved have the same rule. Kissing might be in the same bracket as sex to you, but it isn't to everyone and the choices should be respected. Many prostitutes don't kiss punters for the same reason. Lots of people say that if you have your mouth around their genitals or having sex with them then surely you can kiss. Many people can disassociate from a sexual act like penetrative or oral sex but they find it difficult to do so with kissing. Thus is because kissing is associated with affection and love, from the kiss of our mothers to the kiss of a lover (oo sounds like a bit of poetry there). They view this act as something shared between close relationships, lovers, family, friends, but not strangers. " I agree with what you say above. However, I also reserve the right to simply point out that I do not personally want to meet with people where the idea of kissing is something they are not comfortable with. Simples | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this
Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it.
Wow !
It's any wonder couples are viewed as self centred and demanding with this kind of attitude !
The day we see a guy as an extra cock is the day we stop swinging . If he is made to feel this way he would be better off staying at home and having a wank .
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this
Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it.
Wow !
It's any wonder couples are viewed as self centred and demanding with this kind of attitude !
The day we see a guy as an extra cock is the day we stop swinging . If he is made to feel this way he would be better off staying at home and having a wank .
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Kissing is nothing to do with intimacy or romance Sex is sex kissing is kissing if you can differentiate the difference between having a shag and making love why not do the same with kissing? I have no intentions of sharing the same level of intamacy with a guy as his wife, I just want a good session with him, but for me kissing is an important part of sex, and though I respect everybody's rules I just wouldnt meet anybody that does not kiss, I find it just odd that my mouth is good enough to shove your cock in but not kiss Just because you think it, doesn't mean that the couple involved have the same rule. Kissing might be in the same bracket as sex to you, but it isn't to everyone and the choices should be respected. Many prostitutes don't kiss punters for the same reason. Lots of people say that if you have your mouth around their genitals or having sex with them then surely you can kiss. Many people can disassociate from a sexual act like penetrative or oral sex but they find it difficult to do so with kissing. Thus is because kissing is associated with affection and love, from the kiss of our mothers to the kiss of a lover (oo sounds like a bit of poetry there). They view this act as something shared between close relationships, lovers, family, friends, but not strangers. I agree with what you say above. However, I also reserve the right to simply point out that I do not personally want to meet with people where the idea of kissing is something they are not comfortable with. Simples" And that is entirely reasonable. I think the arguments arise when either wanting to kiss or not wanting to kiss is expressed in a way that's derogatory to those that hold the opposite opinion. | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Kissing is nothing to do with intimacy or romance Sex is sex kissing is kissing if you can differentiate the difference between having a shag and making love why not do the same with kissing? I have no intentions of sharing the same level of intamacy with a guy as his wife, I just want a good session with him, but for me kissing is an important part of sex, and though I respect everybody's rules I just wouldnt meet anybody that does not kiss, I find it just odd that my mouth is good enough to shove your cock in but not kiss Just because you think it, doesn't mean that the couple involved have the same rule. Kissing might be in the same bracket as sex to you, but it isn't to everyone and the choices should be respected. Many prostitutes don't kiss punters for the same reason. Lots of people say that if you have your mouth around their genitals or having sex with them then surely you can kiss. Many people can disassociate from a sexual act like penetrative or oral sex but they find it difficult to do so with kissing. Thus is because kissing is associated with affection and love, from the kiss of our mothers to the kiss of a lover (oo sounds like a bit of poetry there). They view this act as something shared between close relationships, lovers, family, friends, but not strangers. I agree with what you say above. However, I also reserve the right to simply point out that I do not personally want to meet with people where the idea of kissing is something they are not comfortable with. Simples And that is entirely reasonable. I think the arguments arise when either wanting to kiss or not wanting to kiss is expressed in a way that's derogatory to those that hold the opposite opinion." | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this
Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it.
Wow !
It's any wonder couples are viewed as self centred and demanding with this kind of attitude !
The day we see a guy as an extra cock is the day we stop swinging . If he is made to feel this way he would be better off staying at home and having a wank .
" wow "an extra cock" how demeaning is that? | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Kissing is nothing to do with intimacy or romance Sex is sex kissing is kissing if you can differentiate the difference between having a shag and making love why not do the same with kissing? I have no intentions of sharing the same level of intamacy with a guy as his wife, I just want a good session with him, but for me kissing is an important part of sex, and though I respect everybody's rules I just wouldnt meet anybody that does not kiss, I find it just odd that my mouth is good enough to shove your cock in but not kiss Just because you think it, doesn't mean that the couple involved have the same rule. Kissing might be in the same bracket as sex to you, but it isn't to everyone and the choices should be respected. Many prostitutes don't kiss punters for the same reason. Lots of people say that if you have your mouth around their genitals or having sex with them then surely you can kiss. Many people can disassociate from a sexual act like penetrative or oral sex but they find it difficult to do so with kissing. Thus is because kissing is associated with affection and love, from the kiss of our mothers to the kiss of a lover (oo sounds like a bit of poetry there). They view this act as something shared between close relationships, lovers, family, friends, but not strangers. I agree with what you say above. However, I also reserve the right to simply point out that I do not personally want to meet with people where the idea of kissing is something they are not comfortable with. Simples And that is entirely reasonable. I think the arguments arise when either wanting to kiss or not wanting to kiss is expressed in a way that's derogatory to those that hold the opposite opinion. "And I think we're seeing a bit of fall out from that | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this
Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it.
Wow !
It's any wonder couples are viewed as self centred and demanding with this kind of attitude !
The day we see a guy as an extra cock is the day we stop swinging . If he is made to feel this way he would be better off staying at home and having a wank .
Oh come off it ffs, your profile is utterly devoid of anything but degrading sex with multiple men regardless of looks or anything attendant to standards. The idea you enjoy anything sensual when you swing is absurd"Wow!! Out of order. | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this
Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it.
Wow !
It's any wonder couples are viewed as self centred and demanding with this kind of attitude !
The day we see a guy as an extra cock is the day we stop swinging . If he is made to feel this way he would be better off staying at home and having a wank .
Oh come off it ffs, your profile is utterly devoid of anything but degrading sex with multiple men regardless of looks or anything attendant to standards. The idea you enjoy anything sensual when you swing is absurd"The people you're talking about and I don't always see eye to eye but what you say is plain rude. | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this
Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it.
Wow !
It's any wonder couples are viewed as self centred and demanding with this kind of attitude !
The day we see a guy as an extra cock is the day we stop swinging . If he is made to feel this way he would be better off staying at home and having a wank .
Oh come off it ffs, your profile is utterly devoid of anything but degrading sex with multiple men regardless of looks or anything attendant to standards. The idea you enjoy anything sensual when you swing is absurd
Wow!! Out of order."I agree, massively, outrageously, out of order!! | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this
Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it.
Wow !
It's any wonder couples are viewed as self centred and demanding with this kind of attitude !
The day we see a guy as an extra cock is the day we stop swinging . If he is made to feel this way he would be better off staying at home and having a wank .
Oh come off it ffs, your profile is utterly devoid of anything but degrading sex with multiple men regardless of looks or anything attendant to standards. The idea you enjoy anything sensual when you swing is absurd"What an absolutely deplorable statement . You should be ashamed of yourself  | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this
Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it.
Wow !
It's any wonder couples are viewed as self centred and demanding with this kind of attitude !
The day we see a guy as an extra cock is the day we stop swinging . If he is made to feel this way he would be better off staying at home and having a wank .
wow "an extra cock" how demeaning is that? "How is that a demeaning statement? They said that the day that they view anyone like an extra cock is the day that they give up swinging. I view that as a respectful attitude more than anything else... | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this
Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it.
Wow !
It's any wonder couples are viewed as self centred and demanding with this kind of attitude !
The day we see a guy as an extra cock is the day we stop swinging . If he is made to feel this way he would be better off staying at home and having a wank .
Oh come off it ffs, your profile is utterly devoid of anything but degrading sex with multiple men regardless of looks or anything attendant to standards. The idea you enjoy anything sensual when you swing is absurd
What an absolutely deplorable statement .
You should be ashamed of yourself "Trusted you two nobody who follows your posts will give it any credence x | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this
Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it.
Wow !
It's any wonder couples are viewed as self centred and demanding with this kind of attitude !
The day we see a guy as an extra cock is the day we stop swinging . If he is made to feel this way he would be better off staying at home and having a wank .
Oh come off it ffs, your profile is utterly devoid of anything but degrading sex with multiple men regardless of looks or anything attendant to standards. The idea you enjoy anything sensual when you swing is absurd
What an absolutely deplorable statement .
You should be ashamed of yourself
Trusted you two nobody who follows your posts will give it any credence x"Maybe we are guilty of coming across as sex addicted sluts .... But truth be known , the passion , erotic pleasure , teasing , touching , caressing and kissing are integral to us . Whether that be in the car , a van , a public loo , outdoors or indoors . No natural desire means no fun as far as we are concerned . The poster who insulted us knows nothing about us . | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this
Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it.
Wow !
It's any wonder couples are viewed as self centred and demanding with this kind of attitude !
The day we see a guy as an extra cock is the day we stop swinging . If he is made to feel this way he would be better off staying at home and having a wank .
Oh come off it ffs, your profile is utterly devoid of anything but degrading sex with multiple men regardless of looks or anything attendant to standards. The idea you enjoy anything sensual when you swing is absurd
What an absolutely deplorable statement .
You should be ashamed of yourself
Trusted you two nobody who follows your posts will give it any credence x
Maybe we are guilty of coming across as sex addicted sluts ....
But truth be known , the passion , erotic pleasure , teasing , touching , caressing and kissing are integral to us .
Whether that be in the car , a van , a public loo , outdoors or indoors .
No natural desire means no fun as far as we are concerned .
The poster who insulted us knows nothing about us .
"They certainly know nothing about you but after a comment like that I think we know a lot more about them. | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this
Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it.
Wow !
It's any wonder couples are viewed as self centred and demanding with this kind of attitude !
The day we see a guy as an extra cock is the day we stop swinging . If he is made to feel this way he would be better off staying at home and having a wank .
Oh come off it ffs, your profile is utterly devoid of anything but degrading sex with multiple men regardless of looks or anything attendant to standards. The idea you enjoy anything sensual when you swing is absurd
"Mmmm... and this is a statement coming from a couple on a previous thread that state that they don't like it when people judge others on the terminology used in their own profiles? Stones, glass houses... | |||
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"Perhaps since kissing is essential to you, you could put it on your profile? Then people who don't enjoy kissing, like myself, wouldn't take conversations any further?" That is one way of dealing with it. Personally I would attest that those who do enjoy kissing far out number those who don't and that consequently it is for those in the minority (the non kissers) to take responsibility for clearly voicing this 'no no' | |||
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"Perhaps since kissing is essential to you, you could put it on your profile? Then people who don't enjoy kissing, like myself, wouldn't take conversations any further? That is one way of dealing with it. Personally I would attest that those who do enjoy kissing far out number those who don't and that consequently it is for those in the minority (the non kissers) to take responsibility for clearly voicing this 'no no'" TBH, I've never been kissed by a man while swinging. Or a woman, come to think of it. And I've never stated to them that I'm not into it, so I guess that less people are into it than you think. If you MUST have something during a meet, then you should put that on your profile. To me, having to write 'don't like kissing' on my profile is like writing 'don't like playing with poo'. Instead I always start from the point of view that we do NOTHING unless it's negotiated in. Kissing is an activity just like anything else - ask consent and negotiate it in. | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this
Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it.
Wow !
It's any wonder couples are viewed as self centred and demanding with this kind of attitude !
The day we see a guy as an extra cock is the day we stop swinging . If he is made to feel this way he would be better off staying at home and having a wank .
Oh come off it ffs, your profile is utterly devoid of anything but degrading sex with multiple men regardless of looks or anything attendant to standards. The idea you enjoy anything sensual when you swing is absurd
What an absolutely deplorable statement .
You should be ashamed of yourself
Trusted you two nobody who follows your posts will give it any credence x
Maybe we are guilty of coming across as sex addicted sluts ....
But truth be known , the passion , erotic pleasure , teasing , touching , caressing and kissing are integral to us .
Whether that be in the car , a van , a public loo , outdoors or indoors .
No natural desire means no fun as far as we are concerned .
The poster who insulted us knows nothing about us .
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this
Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it.
Wow !
It's any wonder couples are viewed as self centred and demanding with this kind of attitude !
The day we see a guy as an extra cock is the day we stop swinging . If he is made to feel this way he would be better off staying at home and having a wank .
wow "an extra cock" how demeaning is that?
How is that a demeaning statement? They said that the day that they view anyone like an extra cock is the day that they give up swinging. I view that as a respectful attitude more than anything else..."Sorry we were referring to the original " your just an extra cock post" not Gloswingers post which we have big respect for........ So getting back on track We state on our profile that kissing is important for us xxx | |||
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"Perhaps since kissing is essential to you, you could put it on your profile? Then people who don't enjoy kissing, like myself, wouldn't take conversations any further? That is one way of dealing with it. Personally I would attest that those who do enjoy kissing far out number those who don't and that consequently it is for those in the minority (the non kissers) to take responsibility for clearly voicing this 'no no' TBH, I've never been kissed by a man while swinging. Or a woman, come to think of it. And I've never stated to them that I'm not into it, so I guess that less people are into it than you think. If you MUST have something during a meet, then you should put that on your profile. To me, having to write 'don't like kissing' on my profile is like writing 'don't like playing with poo'. Instead I always start from the point of view that we do NOTHING unless it's negotiated in. Kissing is an activity just like anything else - ask consent and negotiate it in." As stated...I did ask (although perhaps a little late in proceedings as I didn't think to), it was not consented and hence negotiations ended
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this
Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it.
Wow !
It's any wonder couples are viewed as self centred and demanding with this kind of attitude !
The day we see a guy as an extra cock is the day we stop swinging . If he is made to feel this way he would be better off staying at home and having a wank .
Oh come off it ffs, your profile is utterly devoid of anything but degrading sex with multiple men regardless of looks or anything attendant to standards. The idea you enjoy anything sensual when you swing is absurd
What an absolutely deplorable statement .
You should be ashamed of yourself
Trusted you two nobody who follows your posts will give it any credence x
Maybe we are guilty of coming across as sex addicted sluts ....
But truth be known , the passion , erotic pleasure , teasing , touching , caressing and kissing are integral to us .
Whether that be in the car , a van , a public loo , outdoors or indoors .
No natural desire means no fun as far as we are concerned .
The poster who insulted us knows nothing about us .
You don't have to justify how you play to anybody "No we don't , but when we are publicly slated , we feel we would rather do so . | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. Quite simply, this
Spot on. TBH, what arrogance to consider yourself so important as to have the same role and function as the male partner. Your are quite literally-extra cock, either accept this or find something else to do. It's a swingers site, so as a single male you are bringing an extra cock and body to the proceedings, that is it.
Wow !
It's any wonder couples are viewed as self centred and demanding with this kind of attitude !
The day we see a guy as an extra cock is the day we stop swinging . If he is made to feel this way he would be better off staying at home and having a wank .
Oh come off it ffs, your profile is utterly devoid of anything but degrading sex with multiple men regardless of looks or anything attendant to standards. The idea you enjoy anything sensual when you swing is absurd
What an absolutely deplorable statement .
You should be ashamed of yourself
Trusted you two nobody who follows your posts will give it any credence x
Maybe we are guilty of coming across as sex addicted sluts ....
But truth be known , the passion , erotic pleasure , teasing , touching , caressing and kissing are integral to us .
Whether that be in the car , a van , a public loo , outdoors or indoors .
No natural desire means no fun as far as we are concerned .
The poster who insulted us knows nothing about us .
You don't have to justify how you play to anybody
No we don't , but when we are publicly slated , we feel we would rather do so .
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"Perhaps since kissing is essential to you, you could put it on your profile? Then people who don't enjoy kissing, like myself, wouldn't take conversations any further? That is one way of dealing with it. Personally I would attest that those who do enjoy kissing far out number those who don't and that consequently it is for those in the minority (the non kissers) to take responsibility for clearly voicing this 'no no' TBH, I've never been kissed by a man while swinging. Or a woman, come to think of it. And I've never stated to them that I'm not into it, so I guess that less people are into it than you think. If you MUST have something during a meet, then you should put that on your profile. To me, having to write 'don't like kissing' on my profile is like writing 'don't like playing with poo'. Instead I always start from the point of view that we do NOTHING unless it's negotiated in. Kissing is an activity just like anything else - ask consent and negotiate it in. As stated...I did ask (although perhaps a little late in proceedings as I didn't think to), it was not consented and hence negotiations ended
I feel that putting the need to state that you do not kiss on a par with needing to state that you do not play with poo is somewhat extreme "I don't think so. I think it should be the responsibility of the person who has the fetish (in this case - you can't have sex without kissing) to state that up front. I mean, I dunno. There are lots of mainstream "liked" things that you'd say you should put on a profile if you want. For example most guys like stockings and suspenders on a meet - but if it was a fetish (i.e. that MUST have it during sex, like you MUST have kissing) then you'd expect them to express that on their profile. | |||
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"Perhaps since kissing is essential to you, you could put it on your profile? Then people who don't enjoy kissing, like myself, wouldn't take conversations any further? That is one way of dealing with it. Personally I would attest that those who do enjoy kissing far out number those who don't and that consequently it is for those in the minority (the non kissers) to take responsibility for clearly voicing this 'no no' TBH, I've never been kissed by a man while swinging. Or a woman, come to think of it. And I've never stated to them that I'm not into it, so I guess that less people are into it than you think. If you MUST have something during a meet, then you should put that on your profile. To me, having to write 'don't like kissing' on my profile is like writing 'don't like playing with poo'. Instead I always start from the point of view that we do NOTHING unless it's negotiated in. Kissing is an activity just like anything else - ask consent and negotiate it in. As stated...I did ask (although perhaps a little late in proceedings as I didn't think to), it was not consented and hence negotiations ended
I feel that putting the need to state that you do not kiss on a par with needing to state that you do not play with poo is somewhat extreme
I don't think so. I think it should be the responsibility of the person who has the fetish (in this case - you can't have sex without kissing) to state that up front. I mean, I dunno. There are lots of mainstream "liked" things that you'd say you should put on a profile if you want. For example most guys like stockings and suspenders on a meet - but if it was a fetish (i.e. that MUST have it during sex, like you MUST have kissing) then you'd expect them to express that on their profile."Agree | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. That's a sweeping generalised statement ! Way off the truth in our case though . The horniest part of a meet is seeing the intimacy and romance being shared . A quick shag with no intimacy would be meaningless to us , no value at all . I love seeing the desire and erotic passion which can't exist without the kissing ." Desire and erotic passion yes, friendship, laughs and fun yes, we share all this in a meet. It is never a quick meaningless shag, the guys we've met for threesomes have become swinging friends that I chat to when they message, or if we're lucky enough to see them at various clubs or parties. They are our swinging buddies. However they do not share a level of intimacy with me that my partner does, obviously. They never have my number to text, or whilst on the meet it will be my partner I cuddle up to afterwards and hold hands with and kissing is part of that exclusivity. I don't have a hard rule about kissing, if a guy kissed me I wouldn't pull away saying 'oh no no you mustn't do that'. I wouldn't kiss for very long though and I don't ever initiate kissing. To be fair it's never been a big issue because I don't find a lot of kissing does go on in our meets. As an aside, my other post was linked to a reply stating that guys are just another cock and this I disagree with. Guys we meet are never just that, they are guys we've met, made a connection with and formed a friendship bond and all three of us are in agreement to how a meet progresses | |||
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"Kissing is a fetish now? "Seems to be, before we started swinging we wouldn't have dreamed that kissing would be an issue for people. But each to there own | |||
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"Kissing is a fetish now? "Thank you...I thought I was going insane, but, I'm glad the idea of enjoying sex which includes kissing is not thought to be a 'fetish' by everyone. | |||
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"If somebody doesn't want to kiss me I sure is hell ain't going to let them fuck me. Simples "Exactly | |||
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"If somebody doesn't want to kiss me I sure is hell ain't going to let them fuck me. Simples "Here, here!! | |||
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Thank you...I thought I was going insane, but, I'm glad the idea of enjoying sex which includes kissing is not thought to be a 'fetish' by everyone. "A fetish is just something (an act, or an object) that you can't enjoy sex without. So for you, kissing is a fetish. Because you can't enjoy sex without it. Just because it's not 'weird' doesn't mean it's not a fetish. | |||
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"I find it very sad that singles who wish to play with couples can't understand or accept a no kissing rule. You know that you won't share the same level of intimacy that they have together. It is something you are excluded from. What's difficult to accept in that. Don't choose couples if you expect that level of intimacy or romance. That's a sweeping generalised statement ! Way off the truth in our case though . The horniest part of a meet is seeing the intimacy and romance being shared . A quick shag with no intimacy would be meaningless to us , no value at all . I love seeing the desire and erotic passion which can't exist without the kissing . Desire and erotic passion yes, friendship, laughs and fun yes, we share all this in a meet. It is never a quick meaningless shag, the guys we've met for threesomes have become swinging friends that I chat to when they message, or if we're lucky enough to see them at various clubs or parties. They are our swinging buddies. However they do not share a level of intimacy with me that my partner does, obviously. They never have my number to text, or whilst on the meet it will be my partner I cuddle up to afterwards and hold hands with and kissing is part of that exclusivity. I don't have a hard rule about kissing, if a guy kissed me I wouldn't pull away saying 'oh no no you mustn't do that'. I wouldn't kiss for very long though and I don't ever initiate kissing. To be fair it's never been a big issue because I don't find a lot of kissing does go on in our meets. As an aside, my other post was linked to a reply stating that guys are just another cock and this I disagree with. Guys we meet are never just that, they are guys we've met, made a connection with and formed a friendship bond and all three of us are in agreement to how a meet progresses "Ah , now that's almost how it is for us too . There are areas of intimacy we only share together , but kissing isn't one of them . | |||
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"Kissing is a fetish now?
Seems to be, before we started swinging we wouldn't have dreamed that kissing would be an issue for people. But each to there own"IT just... doesn't feel nice. I don't like my face being that close to other peoples faces. I don't like the feeling of someones tongue being in my mouth. I don't particularly like exchanging saliva. I am very under confident about my mouth (gums and teeth) because I have gum disease. And so for those reasons kissing is a big turn off for me. It just doesn't feel very nice. It makes me conscious. I actually find it quite repulsive. Apparently people think that makes me a freak - but not everyone is into the same things. Not everyone likes the things I'm into - and that's ok. In the 15 or so years that I've been having sex I've found that the vast majority of people are pretty damn ambivalent about kissing. I've *never* had anyone say 'sorry, I can't carry on because you don't like kissing'. Most people will take it or leave it, they clearly don't see it as essential. In fact I swear most people only do it because we do it as teenagers - it's seen as essential foreplay before having sex. Well, it's not. | |||
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"Can I also add its amazing how many couples who don't kiss try to kiss you when their other half isnt about I think there are many halves of couples who don't kiss because they are not told not to rather than choosing not to
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"Can I also add its amazing how many couples who don't kiss try to kiss you when their other half isnt about I think there are many halves of couples who don't kiss because they are not told not to rather than choosing not to
You have a dim view of couples
Probably why I don't meet them "Now you mention it, neither do we | |||
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