FabSwingers.com forum: Wake up and smell the coffee

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Hey it's Friday and in my book that's a great time to have a rant.

Maybe I should have titled this thread in Dale Carnegie's words - How to win friends and influence people. So here goes.

Can I just get something straight first. Everyone here is looking for a good time, to have some fun right? Right. (no just throw him at the back out we don't want him here!)

Okay I've read quite a lot of comments, some in the forums and some on profiles over the last few weeks since I joined.

First shot goes to the idiots. I'm a single guy on here and there's some others that are giving us a bad name. Guys, the ladies on here ain't meat. They're not here to be demeaned, and are generally not looking to shag any bloke that happens to give them a second glance. If you haven't got the sense to understand this, logout man, go and find a call girl or get over to one of the wackoff sites - I'm sure you can find some free porn if you look for 5 minutes. Give the ladies on here some respect and a break!

2nd shot is at those that want to judge us. Look there's noone on here that can take the moral high ground when it comes to your relationship arrangements and what you get up to. The why you're doing this stuff is your own business and those that are married and playing away so what (yeah I would say that). Personally I think that everyone has their own tastes. My wife's tastes and mine are polar opposites - she likes missionary and a bit of oral on her when in the mood and thats about it. I love her to bits and wouldn't ever want to leave her but my needs are important to me and though its been discussed endlessly its not really going to change. I want it a lot and in lots of ways, she doesn't. I wouldn't want to embark on an affair as that would be distructive so "swinging" if it qualifies as that is a release for me. I'm sure that there are other guys and ladies too that have some similar stories to tell. Just give everyone a break and lighten up, we're just looking for fun.

So that's all folks. I've had my rant. Shout if you want, if you have a problem with this, it's yours not mine. I'm off for a cuppa now, my fingers hurt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

think I'll wait and see how others respond....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"think I'll wait and see how others respond...."

sheep

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ok, you go first then, oh leader of sheep !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I say...............bollox I dont give a stuff

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I say...............bollox I dont give a stuff

doh, typical resident of Xxxxx !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hey it's Friday and in my book that's a great time to have a rant.

Maybe I should have titled this thread in Dale Carnegie's words - How to win friends and influence people. So here goes.

Can I just get something straight first. Everyone here is looking for a good time, to have some fun right? Right. (no just throw him at the back out we don't want him here!)

Okay I've read quite a lot of comments, some in the forums and some on profiles over the last few weeks since I joined.

So that's all folks. I've had my rant. Shout if you want, if you have a problem with this, it's yours not mine. I'm off for a cuppa now, my fingers hurt.

ive seen the upset and hurt it causes when someone finds they're other half as been playing away its not good and i dont agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I doubt you'll win friends with your post. Each to their own is I guess what I would say but personally I would never consider meeting a married man, before anyone says 'at least they have been honest and said the are married' they are being honest with the wrong person. If there are problems in a marital sex life sort them out, don't seek the answer outside the marriage, thats not swinging it is cheating on a loving, trusting person, something that in my view is totally unforgivable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i have lost a big mac, anyone seen it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

people who do sleep behind there partners back shouldnt cloud the fact with labelling it as swinging your partner male or female makes love with you and that means she or he gives you to most intamte parts of there body and also there heart and therfore if you are into breacking the one you loves heart keep going swinging is mutual respect on both parts people who cheet arnt thincking or showing respect to the ones they proffess to love soooo much

there you go everyone can rant

lol

happy swinging/ cheating and lying to the wife pmsl xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My wife's tastes and mine are polar opposites - she likes missionary and a bit of oral on her when in the mood and thats about it. I love her to bits and wouldn't ever want to leave her but my needs are important to me and though its been discussed endlessly its not really going to change. I want it a lot and in lots of ways, she doesn't. I wouldn't want to embark on an affair as that would be distructive so "swinging" if it qualifies as that is a release for me. I'm sure that there are other guys and ladies too that have some similar stories to tell. Just give everyone a break and lighten up, we're just looking for fun.

So that's all folks. I've had my rant. Shout if you want, if you have a problem with this, it's yours not mine. I'm off for a cuppa now, my fingers hurt.

my god what a load of crap i hope ur wife see's sense soon and kicks ur arse to the curb.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I doubt you'll win friends with your post. Each to their own is I guess what I would say but personally I would never consider meeting a married man, before anyone says 'at least they have been honest and said the are married' they are being honest with the wrong person. If there are problems in a marital sex life sort them out, don't seek the answer outside the marriage, thats not swinging it is cheating on a loving, trusting person, something that in my view is totally unforgivable."

i agree totally

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

sying that it does work both ways there is alot of women who cheet on there fellas with no morals also

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"sying that it does work both ways there is alot of women who cheet on there fellas with no morals also"

of course im condemning either sex that does it..but ur scenarios different thats cool

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Is it bonfire night? - (lights blue touch paper and stands back). Yeah so I'm a bad man in your eyes? I did expect some comments to that effect. And what is the solution to this dilema? I did say guys and ladies are affected by this stuff. Everyone can stray.

Any comments for the defence?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"sying that it does work both ways there is alot of women who cheet on there fellas with no morals also

of course im condemning either sex that does it..but ur scenarios different thats cool

ours is great but as we met as swinging singles so weve never had problem talking to each other about our desires or feelings on the subject of sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it bonfire night? - (lights blue touch paper and stands back). Yeah so I'm a bad man in your eyes? I did expect some comments to that effect. And what is the solution to this dilema? I did say guys and ladies are affected by this stuff. Everyone can stray.

Any comments for the defence? "

tell the wife you never know she might have a few secrets of her own that she wants off her cheest

like the mailman

pmsl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i'm a serial cheat, i cheat on every guy i have a relationship with, hense im single, lol....

anyone want a gf ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any comments for the defence? "

sort it out or get a divorce simple as

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i'm a serial cheat, i cheat on every guy i have a relationship with, hense im single, lol....

anyone want a gf ?

thats why youre scrummy

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"sying that it does work both ways there is alot of women who cheet on there fellas with no morals also

of course im condemning either sex that does it..but ur scenarios different thats cool

ours is great but as we met as swinging singles so weve never had problem talking to each other about our desires or feelings on the subject of sex "

I think that's great and you're very lucky. I think some people have to understand that talking about stuff doesn't always fix it. In my experience anyhow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wonder if i woman posted the same thread she would get the same responce, yes i know she would off some.. but i think others wouldnt,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

so the rant isnt really about swinnging it sounds more like a breackdown in communication thats been hidden behind the fact of lack of sex in marrage

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By *etillanteWoman
over a year ago

And what about a sexless marriage where one partner wants sex and the other doesn't.

And don't say you shouldn't be together, sometimes circumstances don;t allow for this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well im a woman and im married and im cheating.....and i love it!!!

shall i just tie myself to the stake i should be burned at now????? lol

we all have our reasons....and i cant believe everyone is so judgemental.....people in glass houses!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I wonder if i woman posted the same thread she would get the same responce, yes i know she would off some.. but i think others wouldnt,

Hmm, that's an interesting point. I wonder too.

A couple of other general observations, not just here but in in life too - I'm always amazed at how much people think it's okay to judge other peoples relationships especially in relation to things like breakup. It's often (notice often not always) couples that take a moral tone. I wonder what their respective individual views are if you spoke to them separately and how much is said publicly for various reasons? Also, on this thread, I notice no-one has picked up on the other point which I have to say seems to be more of an issue on other posts?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"well im a woman and im married and im cheating.....and i love it!!!

shall i just tie myself to the stake i should be burned at now????? lol

we all have our reasons....and i cant believe everyone is so judgemental.....people in glass houses!!!

Thankyou, comment for the defence. LOL

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"And what about a sexless marriage where one partner wants sex and the other doesn't.

And don't say you shouldn't be together, sometimes circumstances don;t allow for this."

Ooh, and another. 30 all!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

how can you look your wife in the eye ?????

its just very very wrong !!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"how can you look your wife in the eye ?????

its just very very wrong !!!!!"

so is having unsafe sex... glass houses etc...........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"well im a woman and im married and im cheating.....and i love it!!!

shall i just tie myself to the stake i should be burned at now????? lol

we all have our reasons....and i cant believe everyone is so judgemental.....people in glass houses!!!

mischief...go sit on the naughty step u bad girl, lol x

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By *etillanteWoman
over a year ago

"how can you look your wife in the eye ?????

its just very very wrong !!!!!"

I look my husband straight in the eye, what am I supposed to do , join a nunnery

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

one big problem on here is a lot of people are to bloody judgemental!!

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By *etillanteWoman
over a year ago

On any question/statment you will always get people who agree and disagree.

It's how you state your case that matters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wonder if i woman posted the same thread she would get the same responce, yes i know she would off some.. but i think others wouldnt,

Hmm, that's an interesting point. I wonder too.

im sure if everyone is tottally honest they may have cheeted at some point and been caught for it and verywell lost everything so then they feel strongly about cheeting as dont want to go thru it again also the people who have been cheeted on so they feel strongly also its easy to jibe and say i cheat but if you lost everything you had tru it then would it be so funny for you to do it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"well im a woman and im married and im cheating.....and i love it!!!

shall i just tie myself to the stake i should be burned at now????? lol

we all have our reasons....and i cant believe everyone is so judgemental.....people in glass houses!!!

mischief...go sit on the naughty step u bad girl, lol x

trouble is...i like it on the naughty step!!!!

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By *etillanteWoman
over a year ago

"well im a woman and im married and im cheating.....and i love it!!!

shall i just tie myself to the stake i should be burned at now????? lol

we all have our reasons....and i cant believe everyone is so judgemental.....people in glass houses!!!

mischief...go sit on the naughty step u bad girl, lol x

trouble is...i like it on the naughty step!!!! "

Can I come too sounds fun

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I wonder if i woman posted the same thread she would get the same responce, yes i know she would off some.. but i think others wouldnt,

Hmm, that's an interesting point. I wonder too.

I don't think it's funny. Funny and fun aren't the same thing.

For the record I've been on both sides of the argument at different points in my life.

I've said to my wife before and I mean it, if you do have an affair don't tell me about it. I'm happy as long as I'm not getting my nose rubbed in it. Blissful ignorance I think it's called.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On any question/statment you will always get people who agree and disagree.

It's how you state your case that matters"

I don't agree lol !

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By *etillanteWoman
over a year ago

"On any question/statment you will always get people who agree and disagree.

It's how you state your case that matters

I don't agree lol !"

Southerners being pedantic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wonder if i woman posted the same thread she would get the same responce, yes i know she would off some.. but i think others wouldnt,

Hmm, that's an interesting point. I wonder too.

I don't think it's funny. Funny and fun aren't the same thing.

For the record I've been on both sides of the argument at different points in my life.

I've said to my wife before and I mean it, if you do have an affair don't tell me about it. I'm happy as long as I'm not getting my nose rubbed in it. Blissful ignorance I think it's called."

nobody would want to have there nose rubbed in it but mabye im been nieve but id want to know what i was doing wrong for my mrs to have the affiar in the first place

also how would you feel if you caught her in the act as you probly know it does happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On any question/statment you will always get people who agree and disagree.

It's how you state your case that matters

I don't agree lol !

Southerners being pedantic"

steady....im a southerner too.....i'll make some space on the naughty step for you!!

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By *etillanteWoman
over a year ago

"On any question/statment you will always get people who agree and disagree.

It's how you state your case that matters

I don't agree lol !

Southerners being pedantic

steady....im a southerner too.....i'll make some space on the naughty step for you!!

Wasn't aimed at u and thnanks, shall I bring wine

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I wonder if i woman posted the same thread she would get the same responce, yes i know she would off some.. but i think others wouldnt,

Hmm, that's an interesting point. I wonder too.

I don't think it's funny. Funny and fun aren't the same thing.

For the record I've been on both sides of the argument at different points in my life.

I've said to my wife before and I mean it, if you do have an affair don't tell me about it. I'm happy as long as I'm not getting my nose rubbed in it. Blissful ignorance I think it's called.

nobody would want to have there nose rubbed in it but mabye im been nieve but id want to know what i was doing wrong for my mrs to have the affiar in the first place

also how would you feel if you caught her in the act as you probly know it does happen "

Well yeah that makes sense.

On the second point though, well if you were daft enough to do it home it's bound to happen at some point. I certainly wouldn't entertain this on the doorstep so to speak. See we're back to that step again. LOL

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On any question/statment you will always get people who agree and disagree.

It's how you state your case that matters

I don't agree lol !

Southerners being pedantic"

didn't realise being born in lancashire makes me a southerner

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"steady....im a southerner too.....i'll make some space on the naughty step for you!!

nope, not on my map, you're a westerner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well.. for my pennies worth I truly wonder just how you'd feel if your polar opposites left your wife needing more..

How would you genuinley feel if you found her playing away, seeking 'more' something your not giving 'her' maybe???

I doubt you'd be as understanding then... but thats ok, you love her to bits so what does it matter!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

true to have an affiar you have to be a good lyer and that doesnt make for a trustworthy person

or does it as in your case we can all trust you to have an affair so you must be trust worthy

lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Well.. for my pennies worth I truly wonder just how you'd feel if your polar opposites left your wife needing more..

How would you genuinley feel if you found her playing away, seeking 'more' something your not giving 'her' maybe???

I doubt you'd be as understanding then... but thats ok, you love her to bits so what does it matter!

I think you missed a point here. She doesn't want MORE she wants LESS! Yes, you've hit the nail on the head though. I'm rubbish in bed. LOL

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On any question/statment you will always get people who agree and disagree.

It's how you state your case that matters

I don't agree lol !

Southerners being pedantic

steady....im a southerner too.....i'll make some space on the naughty step for you!!

Wasn't aimed at u and thnanks, shall I bring wine"

i prefer vodka...but hey...im a softy southerner!!! lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"steady....im a southerner too.....i'll make some space on the naughty step for you!!

nope, not on my map, you're a westerner."

ooooo i quite like being a westerner

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well.. for my pennies worth I truly wonder just how you'd feel if your polar opposites left your wife needing more..

How would you genuinley feel if you found her playing away, seeking 'more' something your not giving 'her' maybe???

I doubt you'd be as understanding then... but thats ok, you love her to bits so what does it matter!

I think you missed a point here. She doesn't want MORE she wants LESS! Yes, you've hit the nail on the head though. I'm rubbish in bed. LOL"

shes sooo selfish to want less sex its her fault now you go looking for casual sex strangers bloody evil woman she is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well.. for my pennies worth I truly wonder just how you'd feel if your polar opposites left your wife needing more..

How would you genuinley feel if you found her playing away, seeking 'more' something your not giving 'her' maybe???

I doubt you'd be as understanding then... but thats ok, you love her to bits so what does it matter!

I think you missed a point here. She doesn't want MORE she wants LESS! Yes, you've hit the nail on the head though. I'm rubbish in bed. LOL"

Maybe, maybe not.. but what your saying is all me me me.. Your profile hints your quite happy to play with other fellas wives too... 'no threat'.. your not seeking quickies.. you want to spend time... You say you wouldn't want to know if your wife was playing away.. Ohhh sure, you'd hit the roof you know you would.. Not judging and no offence whatsoever but that doesn't really make you a nice person... Not just to your own mrs but potentially anyone who'd give you five minutes...

Well you asked lol....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Well.. for my pennies worth I truly wonder just how you'd feel if your polar opposites left your wife needing more..

How would you genuinley feel if you found her playing away, seeking 'more' something your not giving 'her' maybe???

I doubt you'd be as understanding then... but thats ok, you love her to bits so what does it matter!

I think you missed a point here. She doesn't want MORE she wants LESS! Yes, you've hit the nail on the head though. I'm rubbish in bed. LOL

shes sooo selfish to want less sex its her fault now you go looking for casual sex strangers bloody evil woman she is "

Look I'm a bloke, it's my prerogative to turn the argument round

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"true to have an affiar you have to be a good lyer and that doesnt make for a trustworthy person

or does it as in your case we can all trust you to have an affair so you must be trust worthy

lol"

im a good liar, im a size 8 with blonde hair n blue eyes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well.. for my pennies worth I truly wonder just how you'd feel if your polar opposites left your wife needing more..

How would you genuinley feel if you found her playing away, seeking 'more' something your not giving 'her' maybe???

I doubt you'd be as understanding then... but thats ok, you love her to bits so what does it matter!

I think you missed a point here. She doesn't want MORE she wants LESS! Yes, you've hit the nail on the head though. I'm rubbish in bed. LOL

shes sooo selfish to want less sex its her fault now you go looking for casual sex strangers bloody evil woman she is

Look I'm a bloke, it's my prerogative to turn the argument round

personally i find that arogant a hell that a married guy wants to get his rock of on my wife and not give a fuck about his own wife sat waiting for him to come home so thats also using my wife for his own selfishness

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Well.. for my pennies worth I truly wonder just how you'd feel if your polar opposites left your wife needing more..

How would you genuinley feel if you found her playing away, seeking 'more' something your not giving 'her' maybe???

I doubt you'd be as understanding then... but thats ok, you love her to bits so what does it matter!

I think you missed a point here. She doesn't want MORE she wants LESS! Yes, you've hit the nail on the head though. I'm rubbish in bed. LOL

Well you asked lol.... "

5 minutes, I'd have to say no sorry not interested. Thanks for asking

I say no threat cos I ain't looking for a relationship that's all. NSA means NSA. Put me on the naughty step with the others, it's already getting crowded!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"true to have an affiar you have to be a good lyer and that doesnt make for a trustworthy person

or does it as in your case we can all trust you to have an affair so you must be trust worthy

lol

im a good liar, im a size 8 with blonde hair n blue eyes

lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its funny in a way... Not only do you disrespect your own family/wife... your also insulting the intelligence of just about every couple and single out there... Your obviously gonna be quite a catch lol.. sure peeps will be beating a path to your door...

Then again.. maybe not! If we were seeking a night with a single fella.. you'd not stand a chance.. not because of anything but what you have said.. people are just not that stupid..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With sex being so important to many people,we can't understand why some embark on a lifelong relationship when they're obviously not compatible in that department from the outset.

O.K sometimes they may just be in a marriage of convenience but in the long run is it worth it?

Surely the final outcome of such a ralationship is misery.

XXXX

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Stiring up quite a hornets nest here. What a great day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you'll find most won't really give a shit lol... Your nothing new, nothing special... 'Hornests nest' lol.. All you have done is give the decent guys a better name...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the hornets nest is what you are in when you get found out my friend shell leave you and im sure she isnt as daft as you thinck

oh and well said trace and ric

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this is a conversation that go on for hours and hours.... i have had messages off the male half of cpls on this site, not just one but quite a few, asking if i would meet just him, without his wife knowing, And i know full well from reading the forums his misses would kill him if she knew.There are so many people out there that do and will cheat. Aswell as the ones no one expects to. Thats life unfortunatly....

At least some of the guys on here admit to being married and cheating, that way the ladies or cpls can decide themselves if they want to meet them.

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By *adcowWoman
over a year ago

kirkcaldy

I have no problem meeting married men ( anyone male or female could say they are single in profiles)- after all I am not the one with everything to lose should their partner find out. As the original poster suggests swinging with a few people to satisfy the sexual needs their lover can not or will not meet is better than having an affair. An affair suggests more than sex and I would deem that much worse .

one thing i do ask is they be honest and admit they are with someone - but then thats just me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"this is a conversation that go on for hours and hours.... i have had messages off the male half of cpls on this site, not just one but quite a few, asking if i would meet just him, without his wife knowing, And i know full well from reading the forums his misses would kill him if she knew.There are so many people out there that do and will cheat. Aswell as the ones no one expects to. Thats life unfortunatly....

At least some of the guys on here admit to being married and cheating, that way the ladies or cpls can decide themselves if they want to meet them.

true also there are guys on her who also say they have permission by there mrs when they dont so the only option i can think of when i talk to a single fem is let them talk to the mrs and then noone gets hurt i meet every guy she meets and vice versa then i know im not gonna get batterd by her

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over a year ago

At least some of the guys on here admit to being married and cheating, that way the ladies or cpls can decide themselves if they want to meet them.

That's as much as you could ask of anyone on here, that they're straight with you about the setup, then you make up your own mind.

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over a year ago

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Why don't you go to prostitutes then, instead of swinging?

I was chatting to a man on cam and straight away, he pops his man out!

Then the phone rings and he casually said, "oh it's the wife"

I told him i am not into being some bit on the side and blocked him.

If some women don't mind, fine, but I won't lie down with a man who cheats.

It's just not right in my view

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over a year ago

Takes all sorts... sure!

Some of us are less desperate than others, clearly lol...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

are you a swinger then or a guy who sleeps behind his wifes back

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By *igBunnyWoman
over a year ago

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It's not "swinging" to me. It's cheating

OK, you aren't on a dating site looking for women and as long as you say you are married, it is up to the women involved if they meet you.

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over a year ago

At least some of the guys on here admit to being married and cheating, that way the ladies or cpls can decide themselves if they want to meet them.

That's as much as you could ask of anyone on here, that they're straight with you about the setup, then you make up your own mind."

doesnt that mean you are showing other women more respect by telling them you cheat but then lying to your wife about cheating be straight with the woman you said you love to bits and let her decide if you are worth it

come on man get your priorities right thats your mrs

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over a year ago

"I think you'll find most won't really give a shit lol... Your nothing new, nothing special... 'Hornests nest' lol.. All you have done is give the decent guys a better name...

No, you're right I'm nothing special.

I think there's a lot of people around that are hypocrites though, bourn out by some of the comments above.

It's interesting how this discussion polarises views. I still don't get why some guys might think they're better than me for letting some other guy shag their wife or whatever, just because they knew about it. I think if you stopped people in the street and asked them there's plenty that thought you had no morals either.

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over a year ago

"Why don't you go to prostitutes then, instead of swinging?

I was chatting to a man on cam and straight away, he pops his man out!

Then the phone rings and he casually said, "oh it's the wife"

I told him i am not into being some bit on the side and blocked him.

If some women don't mind, fine, but I won't lie down with a man who cheats.

It's just not right in my view"

For the record, I won't be "camming" anyone with my todger out.

Seriously, I wouldn't go to a prostitute for the obvious reasons - like they're druggies or trafficed or whatever.

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By *oftyladnloftyladyCouple
over a year ago

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long topic this, but my thoughts are swinging as a couple or single part you should talk to each other with no sercets an be completely open, the guy acting as a single without the wife knowing must come under cheating and must have doubts about the strength of the relationship.

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over a year ago

No, you're right I'm nothing special.

I think there's a lot of people around that are hypocrites though, bourn out by some of the comments above.

There... theres the truth lol. You can't stand the thought your sharing your wife.. Hypocrite.

I don't just let some bloke shag my wife lol.. she 'chooses' who, same as I.. Mutual respect for each other, something we share as man and wife.. not crawl round behind each others backs to do.... BIG difference and one someone with some morals would see...

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over a year ago

Your wife might not want to have to share you either...even if she is unaware of whats going on.

If you turn the situation around, would you respect her decision if she wanted to get her thrills some where else?

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By *igBunnyWoman
over a year ago

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Both partners consent and know what each other is doing.

Swingers are supposed to be open about thier sexuality and know what they want and with who they wnat it.

I just feel sorry for the other partner at home who doesn't have a clue what they are up to!

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over a year ago

"Why don't you go to prostitutes then, instead of swinging?

I was chatting to a man on cam and straight away, he pops his man out!

Then the phone rings and he casually said, "oh it's the wife"

I told him i am not into being some bit on the side and blocked him.

If some women don't mind, fine, but I won't lie down with a man who cheats.

It's just not right in my view

For the record, I won't be "camming" anyone with my todger out.

Seriously, I wouldn't go to a prostitute for the obvious reasons - like they're druggies or trafficed or whatever. "

on your original post you state women are not a piece of meat but all the way thru this thread you have said contradicted your own words cos you treating your own wife worse than meat some dont mind that you leave your wife and go and play for hours as you have said and as before you stated you wont get you willy out on cam you cant in case the wife catches you and prostitutes cost money then shell ask questions so why not get it for free NSA off some other person in another town then you got it how you want it you can always say your swinging

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By *igBunnyWoman
over a year ago

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shall we pin him down and kick him up the arse as well

Poor OP

As long as you say you are married, it's up to the ladies if they met you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

id lmao if she was having an affair

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over a year ago

Is sex in a relationship, such a big deal???

If yes....

So your married, you love your partner to bits but the sexual part of your relationship isnt great, or non existant in some cases. You have talked about it, tried things to revive it but to no avail. You even suggest having sex with someone else or using personal services which horrifies your partner.

Do you.

A) Cheat?

B) divorce the person you love because you cannot live in a sexless marriage?

c)Stay and live with the fact you will not be having sex?

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over a year ago

Hmm, interesting points. I'm sure if camming was my "thing" I could find a way to get it, but it isn't.

I take your point about how I view my wife, sure that's probably the only reasoned argument I've seen so far.

On the money side, well, have you seen the price of hotel rooms lately? Frankly if money was the issue, it would be cheaper to find a dirty pro.

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

"Is sex in a relationship, such a big deal???

If yes....

Do you.

A) Cheat?

B) divorce the person you love because you cannot live in a sexless marriage?

c)Stay and live with the fact you will not be having sex?"

Answers on a postcard to..

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over a year ago

My Town

"Hmm, interesting points. I'm sure if camming was my "thing" I could find a way to get it, but it isn't.

I take your point about how I view my wife, sure that's probably the only reasoned argument I've seen so far.

On the money side, well, have you seen the price of hotel rooms lately? Frankly if money was the issue, it would be cheaper to find a dirty pro."

Oh dear. Are women in the sex trade all "dirty pros?"

Which charm school did you go to?

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over a year ago

"Is sex in a relationship, such a big deal???

If yes....

Do you.

A) Cheat?

B) divorce the person you love because you cannot live in a sexless marriage?

c)Stay and live with the fact you will not be having sex?"

We all obviously have differing thoughts on Loveing your partner..

Love?? Is that Love then... Noooooo

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over a year ago

"Hmm, interesting points. I'm sure if camming was my "thing" I could find a way to get it, but it isn't.

I take your point about how I view my wife, sure that's probably the only reasoned argument I've seen so far.

On the money side, well, have you seen the price of hotel rooms lately? Frankly if money was the issue, it would be cheaper to find a dirty pro.

Oh dear. Are women in the sex trade all "dirty pros?"

Which charm school did you go to?"

LOL, fair enough. I ain't trying to win their vote.

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over a year ago

Of course we do, I was just interested in how important people think sex is in a relationship, and the options should it no longer be part of your relationship.

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over a year ago

"Of course we do, I was just interested in how important people think sex is in a relationship, and the options should it no longer be part of your relationship."

Oo is that another one for the defence?

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over a year ago

My Town

How you tried Dirty Diana

http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=4872&var=D

cheap no strings fun!

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over a year ago

I am neutral.

What others do is none of my business. If I don't like it, I wont go there, simple as.

It was merely a question.

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over a year ago

"Of course we do, I was just interested in how important people think sex is in a relationship, and the options should it no longer be part of your relationship."

Fair point.. and each and everyone of us are different.

I think the case in hand is seriously flawed.. He's not telling the truth at all.. No respect for women, least of all his wife.. I'd bet my house he'd throw the biggest hissy fit if his wife did what he says is ok cause HE thinks HE needs lol...

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over a year ago

Oh I wasnt on about the OP in particular, just throwing it out there as a general thing lol

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over a year ago

"How you tried Dirty Diana

http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=4872&var=D

cheap no strings fun!"

LOL, thanks I've been looking for one of those!

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over a year ago

"Oh I wasnt on about the OP in particular, just throwing it out there as a general thing lol"

I'm the biggest believer in letting live and let live... but there is a limit lol.

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over a year ago

In all honesty. I adore my partner, he is my best friend, worst enemy and everything inbetween.

Could I spend the next 20 years or so without sex if he decided he no longer wanted it?

In all honesty I would have to say no.

You can be initmate with each other without having sex, but for me, I would miss it.

Would I cheat?...No I would be honest and voice my concerns etc. Then take it from there. It would be a hard one to call as I couldnt contemplate giving up the person I love for something like sex, but on the other hand...Oh I dont know. It is a hard one.

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By *igBunnyWoman
over a year ago

My Town

"How you tried Dirty Diana

http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=4872&var=D

cheap no strings fun!

LOL, thanks I've been looking for one of those!"

lmao

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wonder when he's found his fuck buddy.. he'll then be as honest with the couples he wants to meet too...

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over a year ago

im sure if you looked deep into the swinging life there nare just as many stds about there is some people who work as pros as a job not a means for drugs and probly earn more than both of us put together just cos they get paid for it does that make them dirty you found this site easy enough im sure if you looked

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over a year ago

"In all honesty. I adore my partner, he is my best friend, worst enemy and everything inbetween.

Could I spend the next 20 years or so without sex if he decided he no longer wanted it?

In all honesty I would have to say no.

You can be initmate with each other without having sex, but for me, I would miss it.

See that's the exact dilema and I'm not the only one who faces it. It's easy to sneer from the sidelines if you're not in that boat. Oh, hang on, soap box fell over.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the dirty diana doll has got a very good review. The guy complains of rough stitches in the openings lol!!

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over a year ago

"In all honesty. I adore my partner, he is my best friend, worst enemy and everything inbetween.

Could I spend the next 20 years or so without sex if he decided he no longer wanted it?

In all honesty I would have to say no.

You can be initmate with each other without having sex, but for me, I would miss it.

See that's the exact dilema and I'm not the only one who faces it. It's easy to sneer from the sidelines if you're not in that boat. Oh, hang on, soap box fell over.

Does your wife know you are swinging?

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over a year ago

"im sure if you looked deep into the swinging life there nare just as many stds about there is some people who work as pros as a job not a means for drugs and probly earn more than both of us put together just cos they get paid for it does that make them dirty you found this site easy enough im sure if you looked "

Hah, I'm not going to qualify that one with a response. It's way off topic, maybe start a new post for that.

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over a year ago

"In all honesty. I adore my partner, he is my best friend, worst enemy and everything inbetween.

Could I spend the next 20 years or so without sex if he decided he no longer wanted it?

In all honesty I would have to say no.

You can be initmate with each other without having sex, but for me, I would miss it.

See that's the exact dilema and I'm not the only one who faces it. It's easy to sneer from the sidelines if you're not in that boat. Oh, hang on, soap box fell over.

Does your wife know you are swinging?"

You're kidding me right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does your wife know you are swinging?"

Classic...

Take a guess??

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over a year ago

"In all honesty. I adore my partner, he is my best friend, worst enemy and everything inbetween.

Could I spend the next 20 years or so without sex if he decided he no longer wanted it?

In all honesty I would have to say no.

You can be initmate with each other without having sex, but for me, I would miss it.

See that's the exact dilema and I'm not the only one who faces it. It's easy to sneer from the sidelines if you're not in that boat. Oh, hang on, soap box fell over.

Does your wife know you are swinging?

You're kidding me right?"

No.

If she doesnt, then that is the difference between us.

If I had decided sex was that important to me and I loved my partner that much, I would put my cards on the table, so they/we could make an informed choice.

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over a year ago

you were the one who mentioned dirty pros and women been treated like a pice of meat your words not mine but arnt they women and stds can be given to your wife if and when you get sex from her then how do you explain that and if you say you always wear something why not go to a prostitute all relivent to that poor woman you leave at home so you can sleep around

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over a year ago

Generally going to leave this topic well alone, but spent a good while reading it...

It was questioned earlier whether a female would get a similar response to the same thread.

Think it is interesting how jff has been slated heavily whilst scrummy is shouting from the rooftops about it but just sitting merrily on the naughty step watching all the arrows fly past!

Not going to pass any judgement however...

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over a year ago

Oh C'mon, fems will always get a by ball. They are too far and few between and on the whole can be forgiven for a lot more purely because of that reason.

Wrong but true!

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over a year ago

Hats off to you for staring a lively debate but...

I always find it funny when someone who tells people not to be judgmental breaks his own rule 5 seconds later with the usual sermon of "treat the ladies right/I'm not like the rest of these dirtbags (ps anyone up for a shag later?"). I'm not like them....honest....

And then you mention you're sneaking about behind your poor old wife's back. Priceless.

Yes treat the ladies right and with respect. Of course. How about you begin that one at home pal?

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over a year ago

"Generally going to leave this topic well alone, but spent a good while reading it...

It was questioned earlier whether a female would get a similar response to the same thread.

Think it is interesting how jff has been slated heavily whilst scrummy is shouting from the rooftops about it but just sitting merrily on the naughty step watching all the arrows fly past!

Not going to pass any judgement however..."

scummy said thats why she is single cos she does that

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over a year ago

Just making the observation

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

"Generally going to leave this topic well alone, but spent a good while reading it...

It was questioned earlier whether a female would get a similar response to the same thread.

Think it is interesting how jff has been slated heavily whilst scrummy is shouting from the rooftops about it but just sitting merrily on the naughty step watching all the arrows fly past!

Not going to pass any judgement however...

scummy said thats why she is single cos she does that "

Fair point I guess... I could say more but not going to, lol

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over a year ago

"you were the one who mentioned dirty pros and women been treated like a pice of meat your words not mine but arnt they women and stds can be given to your wife if and when you get sex from her then how do you explain that and if you say you always wear something why not go to a prostitute all relivent to that poor woman you leave at home so you can sleep around"

Take a breath. Gosh aren't these posts hard to read without punctuation. Well you're really sticking up for them, and good for you. Yes, I'm prepared to accept what you say, they're all people etc., and it was a throw away comment. It doesn't change the fact I'm not interested, maybe I have a closed view on that, but it's not a scene I want to get involved in.

For the record I DO always practice safe sex. Just because I don't share your views, doesn't make me stupid.

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over a year ago

Do I get a gold star for the most posts in a day? What's the record?

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over a year ago

For the record I DO always practice safe sex. Just because I don't share your views, doesn't make me stupid."

i never implyed you were stupid but are you here for sex or a release from the monotony of a sexless marrage is that the point of this thread is it all about you having sex or are you just bored with the wife and it does happen

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over a year ago

The point of the thread was 2 fold.

Firstly, I saw that a number of ladies appear to be getting hassle on here from blokes to do stuff when they're clearly not ready or not interested which I don't agree with. If I sent someone a message and they don't respond or I'm told no that's the end of it. Let it go. And I wouldn't assume that we were going to get up to something just coz they said hi.

Secondly, to tell people to mind your own business and stop judging people just because the "personal arrangements" don't suit your own views. I can't see the point of that. People will do what they do if they want. I think the best we can hope for on here is to tell people what we want, what we will do, enough of our situation so that you can make your mind up to say hi or pass by.

Interestingly no-one has picked up on the first point.

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over a year ago

you are a clever man both pionts valid and both contradict the first how long you sat and thoutght about that how powerfull you must feel now first point you dont like men treating women like crap but you do your wife

second point youll be honest with everyone else cos you dont like lyers

and folk shouldnt judge you for who you are you coverd your back well my friend

cos i bet you are great company to be with

clever man

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over a year ago

"Generally going to leave this topic well alone, but spent a good while reading it...

It was questioned earlier whether a female would get a similar response to the same thread.

Think it is interesting how jff has been slated heavily whilst scrummy is shouting from the rooftops about it but just sitting merrily on the naughty step watching all the arrows fly past!

Not going to pass any judgement however...

scummy said thats why she is single cos she does that

Fair point I guess... I could say more but not going to, lol"

oi its scrummy not scummy, lol i cud be really hurt now

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over a year ago

"you are a clever man both pionts valid and both contradict the first how long you sat and thoutght about that how powerfull you must feel now first point you dont like men treating women like crap but you do your wife

second point youll be honest with everyone else cos you dont like lyers

and folk shouldnt judge you for who you are you coverd your back well my friend

cos i bet you are great company to be with

clever man "

Powerful, not especially. I just tend to say something if I don't agree with it. On the first point, should I have just ignored it or said, ladies it's just tough it goes with the territory? No, I don't think so. It might be nice if some people just agreed with that point, it was meant with sincerety and maybe would go a small way to giving a few people a bit less hassle.

On the second point, yes, I accept that it nicely sidesteps my argument, but that wasn't the intention. I will think again about my views, but I mean people say I'm lying to my wife and I'm bad, how many of you are lying to your family or neighbours about what you are getting up to. Lying is lying. If you're not lying to anyone, good for you, you deserve a medal. Obviously everyone else will burn in hell as they're the condemned. There's always someone who feels the need to be superior. I don't right now. I just don't want other people to either.

Thanks all for the debate. Very much enjoyed, I'm gonna go and do some work now so feel free to talk about me whilst I'm gone.

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"Generally going to leave this topic well alone, but spent a good while reading it...

It was questioned earlier whether a female would get a similar response to the same thread.

Think it is interesting how jff has been slated heavily whilst scrummy is shouting from the rooftops about it but just sitting merrily on the naughty step watching all the arrows fly past!

Not going to pass any judgement however...

scummy said thats why she is single cos she does that

Fair point I guess... I could say more but not going to, lol

oi its scrummy not scummy, lol i cud be really hurt now

im sorry i missspelt it pmsl

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over a year ago

second point youll be honest with everyone else cos you dont like lyers

and folk shouldnt judge you for who you are you coverd your back well my friend

cos i bet you are great company to be with

clever man

Thanks all for the debate. Very much enjoyed, I'm gonna go and do some work now so feel free to talk about me whilst I'm gone.

How does not discussing your sexlife with family and neighbours class as lying????

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over a year ago

Even if I were not a swinger the topic over dinner with my parents or over the garden fence would not be.

Oh jeez I had a great fuck last night. Mum you should of seen what he did with his tongue and what a cock!

ffs

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over a year ago

on that respect you are right we all lie to someone but arnt you lying to yourself by doing both things tellin other women the truth and not your wife if to be honest you should not tell anyone thats how you will get caught if you cant be honest to the one you share your life with then you not honest to your self its just my opinion and i do still think you a very clever guy id trust you to con me lol

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

"on that respect you are right we all lie to someone but arnt you lying to yourself by doing both things tellin other women the truth and not your wife if to be honest you should not tell anyone thats how you will get caught if you cant be honest to the one you share your life with then you not honest to your self its just my opinion and i do still think you a very clever guy id trust you to con me lol"

I was honest and told my ex hubby i cheated on him....he beat the living daylight out of me .... so on that note i wont be as honest in the future cuz it fekkin hurt having a chair thrown at my head and being knocked out ... so, anyone want a gf yet lol x

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over a year ago

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Well id piss myself laughing if she found out and took him for everything hes got and left him with fuck all. I do like the way he tries to justify the arguement though

and i cant see anywhere on his profile that it states hes married

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"Powerful, not especially. I just tend to say something if I don't agree with it. On the first point, should I have just ignored it or said, ladies it's just tough it goes with the territory? No, I don't think so. It might be nice if some people just agreed with that point, it was meant with sincerety and maybe would go a small way to giving a few people a bit less hassle.

Thanks all for the debate. Very much enjoyed, I'm gonna go and do some work now so feel free to talk about me whilst I'm gone.

Your trying to justify all the crap with If we all don't tell everyone what we do is total bull... you may fool some with that twaddle but not all.

So you tell your kids your lying and cheating but not your wife.. You have told all your friends then.. but not the wife.. Poppy Cock!

Trying to justify your own actions is fine.. if it makes you feel better so be it.. who really cares, I don't.. Really I don't. I don't know you nor ever likely to.. but having come accross people like you who would say anything to get a shag and would lie to their wives and mine.. just to get a chance of a sniff it makes it just about everyones business on here eh.. All it does is show you for what you are.. like or lump people will judge.

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

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"Well.. for my pennies worth I truly wonder just how you'd feel if your polar opposites left your wife needing more..

How would you genuinley feel if you found her playing away, seeking 'more' something your not giving 'her' maybe???

I doubt you'd be as understanding then... but thats ok, you love her to bits so what does it matter!

I think you missed a point here. She doesn't want MORE she wants LESS! Yes, you've hit the nail on the head though. I'm rubbish in bed. LOL"

ok i never judge people who are cheating as i do not know the facts ....however you have chosen to say ...why in this case ....so a question ...regarding your wifes diminishing libido ...hove you supported her ...suggested you both see a gp to find out if there is some underlying physical problem,hormonal imbalance,if you have ...ok its up to you .....but if you havent ...then its a case of not honouring your commitments when you took your very very "Public Vow" that did state in sickness and in health ..

thats all i wanna say about that in case my heart rate goes up to 62 bpm

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over a year ago

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"Even if I were not a swinger the topic over dinner with my parents or over the garden fence would not be.

Oh jeez I had a great fuck last night. Mum you should of seen what he did with his tongue and what a cock!

ffs"

no you call me instead ..and i am pissed off with these 4am phone calls ....

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over a year ago

I get this line alot from married men who mail me... '' im being honest and telling you im married ''. NOT being honest with the right woman maybe?

All i can say is what goes around comes around and one day that good little wifey waiting at home will see the light. How appealing is a man who has been taken to the cleaners? lol

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over a year ago

Forgot to add... read your profile and cant see any mention of the ball and chain.... not sure about the cloak and dagger , id probably use it to cut your bollox off!

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over a year ago

" how many of you are lying to your family or neighbours about what you are getting up to.

My sex life has nothing to do with my friends, family or neighbours...it only concerns me and my girlfriend and there for shes the one i am honest with about it...and shes honest to me about it too (not that either of us have been dishonest)

My neighbours and family don't really tend to ask about my sex life if im being honest!!

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over a year ago

Yeah... if your 'that' upfront about it... why not state clearly in your profile.. Married and playing away

All the cloak and dagger crap just makes me think your a sneaky git trying to tempt other blokes wives to play...

Clarify at your leisure....

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over a year ago

the whole point of this thread was for him to get a debate going on our morals hes off to do some work now and were still here it what i said he feels now he has the upper hand as we still talking about him hes that godly in his own eyes and supperior to our interlect it was just to get the debate going watch his next thread with care people

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over a year ago

"Yeah... if your 'that' upfront about it... why not state clearly in your profile.. Married and playing away

All the cloak and dagger crap just makes me think your a sneaky git trying to tempt other blokes wives to play...

Clarify at your leisure....

Thought I'd just have another quick look to see if the debate continues.

Actually you've pointed something valid out here. There is a setting in the account that asks your status, but it doesn't show in your public profile. My mistake I didn't spot that. In the spirit of being "direct" if not "honest" and if it wasn't bleeding obvious anyway I shall amend. Maybe the admins should make a change so that cheats only look for cheats and the rest look for the rest and never the twain shall meet?

Oh yeah, and before I forget, yeah sure I'll try and paint things in the best light when I speak to someone, who wouldn't, but lets be clear I won't be off with just anyone. Hence my other point above about prostitutes. And if I was such a smooth talker would I really have raised my head above the parapet to be shot at, I could easily have slipped on by without you being any the wiser?

I'm sure you're all very nice people, I've not set out to just annoy you for the sake of it, I'm sure there are some raw nerves and maybe I've hit a few. It's a shame that debate often drops into personal attack, but really the "Live and Let Live" comment - how many people say that then go on to make an attack. I don't go to clubs, but someone mentioned in another post that the couples look on the singles like something they stepped in. Who's benefit is that for?

Yeah maybe I'm gonna have a look at myself. Maybe you should look at yourself too.

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over a year ago

Nahhh Not at all.... He now looks a mug, shot himself with great accuracy in both feet..

Its only a debate maybe... but he's highlighted his ways and thoughts of the very women.. and couples he'd like to meet eh lol....

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over a year ago

"Nahhh Not at all.... He now looks a mug, shot himself with great accuracy in both feet..

Its only a debate maybe... but he's highlighted his ways and thoughts of the very women.. and couples he'd like to meet eh lol...."

Couples removed, I meant.. not to be a threat to your relationship. I wasn't trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Frankly it seems couples aren't worth the hassle. You enjoy yourselves as will I.

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over a year ago

well said, main thing should be honestly. and i aint anyones bit of meat at my age think i be a bit tough and chewy lol have fun x

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

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"Yeah... if your 'that' upfront about it... why not state clearly in your profile.. Married and playing away

All the cloak and dagger crap just makes me think your a sneaky git trying to tempt other blokes wives to play...

Clarify at your leisure....

Thought I'd just have another quick look to see if the debate continues.

Yeah maybe I'm gonna have a look at myself. Maybe you should look at yourself too.

errrr sorry but you have not answered my question ..before embarking on being unfaithful, what support did YOU put in for the sake of your wife and marriage

EG.have you suggested ways of trying to uncover the reasons for the loss of her libido set her mind at rest your in this together and you will support her ...are you listening to her ....trying to be supportive...considered counseling.????

...or did you just run to the site because you saw a flimsy but valid rationale for cheating ?

How have you tried to uphold the vow you made when you married ?

pulse still at 62 bpm ....feeling cool

...shame about the rain

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over a year ago

"Yeah... if your 'that' upfront about it... why not state clearly in your profile.. Married and playing away

All the cloak and dagger crap just makes me think your a sneaky git trying to tempt other blokes wives to play...

Clarify at your leisure....

Thought I'd just have another quick look to see if the debate continues.

Yeah maybe I'm gonna have a look at myself. Maybe you should look at yourself too.

errrr sorry but you have not answered my question ..before embarking on being unfaithful, what support did YOU put in for the sake of your wife and marriage

...or did you just run to the site because you saw a flimsy but valid rationale for cheating ?

How have you tried to uphold the vow you made when you married ?

pulse still at 62 bpm ....feeling cool

...shame about the rain "

As per my main point already said, I'm not about to debate my personal situation as much as I don't want to know yours either.

Rain and fog here. Outlook for the weekend poor.

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over a year ago

"Nahhh Not at all.... He now looks a mug, shot himself with great accuracy in both feet..

Its only a debate maybe... but he's highlighted his ways and thoughts of the very women.. and couples he'd like to meet eh lol....

Couples removed, I meant.. not to be a threat to your relationship. I wasn't trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Frankly it seems couples aren't worth the hassle. You enjoy yourselves as will I."

lol.. the only reason you say that is cause you havn't found your fuck buddy yet.. When you do or possibly will its highly unlikely your going to be honest then either.. (With me so far)

I mean, here we are.. were fuck buddies I'm playing away, the wife knows fuck all about this so please don't try and get to know us Hardly reads as a good profile eh lol...

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over a year ago

"Nahhh Not at all.... He now looks a mug, shot himself with great accuracy in both feet..

Its only a debate maybe... but he's highlighted his ways and thoughts of the very women.. and couples he'd like to meet eh lol....

Couples removed, I meant.. not to be a threat to your relationship. I wasn't trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Frankly it seems couples aren't worth the hassle. You enjoy yourselves as will I.

lol.. the only reason you say that is cause you havn't found your fuck buddy yet.. When you do or possibly will its highly unlikely your going to be honest then either.. (With me so far)

I mean, here we are.. were fuck buddies I'm playing away, the wife knows fuck all about this so please don't try and get to know us Hardly reads as a good profile eh lol...

LOL, do you want a job? Couldn't have put it better myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You already did....... pmsl!

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

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"Yeah... if your 'that' upfront about it... why not state clearly in your profile.. Married and playing away

All the cloak and dagger crap just makes me think your a sneaky git trying to tempt other blokes wives to play...

Clarify at your leisure....

Thought I'd just have another quick look to see if the debate continues.

Yeah maybe I'm gonna have a look at myself. Maybe you should look at yourself too.

errrr sorry but you have not answered my question ..before embarking on being unfaithful, what support did YOU put in for the sake of your wife and marriage

...or did you just run to the site because you saw a flimsy but valid rationale for cheating ?

How have you tried to uphold the vow you made when you married ?

pulse still at 62 bpm ....feeling cool

...shame about the rain

As per my main point already said, I'm not about to debate my personal situation as much as I don't want to know yours either.

Rain and fog here. Outlook for the weekend poor."

As i have said i do not prejudge people in extra marital affairs even casual ones.Cloaking it under the banner of swinging does not mean the pain should you be caught is diminished ...the emotional fee is always paid by the one cheated on . The financial price normally by the cheater.

So it is a massive decision to make ...you state its due to incompatibility in libido ..now that must of been different when you got together.So it would imply either a boredom factor or a underlying medical problem.

If it is medical and you have told her of your plan and you both agree then fine ...who can criticise a decision by 2 adults who "love " each other.

Anything else is duplicitous and not really fair for your wife ....but if you want to pick up your end of the bill go for it.

picking up monday they say ....sunny intervals here 62 and holding ..

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over a year ago

"how can you look your wife in the eye ?????

its just very very wrong !!!!!

so is having unsafe sex... glass houses etc..........."

same old same old,been here before very boring now,but what i can say is that we do it together!

we are honest on our profile and there is more than us that do it on here

turst me !!

more than you can say about others

naughty step for us but we like it naughty!

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over a year ago

How can anyone cheat on someone they say they 'love to bits?' . I think you are telling your self you have the right to cheat because she doesnt put out in the bedroom! There see, its all her fault after all! ... not...

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over a year ago

"how can you look your wife in the eye ?????

its just very very wrong !!!!!

so is having unsafe sex... glass houses etc...........

same old same old,been here before very boring now,but what i can say is that we do it together!

we are honest on our profile and there is more than us that do it on here

turst me !!

more than you can say about others

naughty step for us but we like it naughty!

It wasnt a dig at u personally,

i dont judge people on here , i was merely stating u have unsafe sex,some admit it , some dont, some ppl dont agree. The op cheats, he admits it , some dont, some ppl dont agree.... i say each to there own if people dont like wot others get up to then thats fine, they simply dont have to message them or meet them. If we were all the same on here i think it would be pretty boring.. we all have a good debate, but i think when some people get personal(not yrselves) it can get a bit out of hand....The op ticked the married bit on his personal settings, but it doesnt show on profiles. The married men/women cheating will always be a well heated discussion on here as will a lot of other debates..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

WOW ,, am i glad i,m single ,,, lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i agree with everyone its just as bad as cheating if your wife isnt up for it hav a wank

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"WOW ,, am i glad i,m single ,,, lol "

so am i lol

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over a year ago

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"WOW ,, am i glad i,m single ,,, lol

so am i lol "

So am I

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All this stuff on your profile about 'cloak n dagger ' and wanting to meet a professional classy lady.... me thinks someone has been reading way to much Jilly Cooper! As a classy SINGLE lady let me tell you mate that there are oodles of fit single men on here who are much further up the wanted list then cheating married ones.... cloak n dagger... meet me beneath the clock tower at midnight, ill be wearing a rainmac and posing pouch...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not an ideal opening post really - a self confessed cheater putting the world to rights

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over a year ago

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