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"Having a drink is normal i'd say, but getting d*unk is another matter for a number of reasons - I would suggest the old saying "everything in moderation" is true "For somebody who is normally teetotal the difference is unfortunately 1/2 a glass of white wine | |||
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"Whilst we both love swinging Mrs J usually likes a quick drink before we meet people or attend a party. Being on non drinker however it can be a bit of a hit or miss. If she gets the level right she feels totally relaxed and is usually the first one in the room naked. lol If she gets it wrong however she will feel too sleepy to be bothered. We just wish modern science would come up with something more precise to calm nerves, heighten libido & remove inhibitions than alcohol. "It's hardly that difficult to know what your tolerance level is | |||
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"Whilst we both love swinging Mrs J usually likes a quick drink before we meet people or attend a party. Being on non drinker however it can be a bit of a hit or miss. If she gets the level right she feels totally relaxed and is usually the first one in the room naked. lol If she gets it wrong however she will feel too sleepy to be bothered. We just wish modern science would come up with something more precise to calm nerves, heighten libido & remove inhibitions than alcohol. "I think the problem here might be the quick drink element. A small glass of wine sipped over an hour or two rather than a couple in quick succession will calm without stupefying | |||
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"Having a drink is normal i'd say, but getting d*unk is another matter for a number of reasons - I would suggest the old saying "everything in moderation" is true
For somebody who is normally teetotal the difference is unfortunately 1/2 a glass of white wine "
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"Errrmmm... I could sooo comment here and the thread would be taken down " Get your drift. | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it" neither of us drink and prefer our meets are sober. | |||
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"Errrmmm... I could sooo comment here and the thread would be taken down
Get your drift." | |||
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"Errrmmm... I could sooo comment here and the thread would be taken down "Lol, we hear ya! | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it" This. | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it This. "What is this nonsense!! Why have is it some people are building this up to something it is quite clearly not. Obviously there is no point trying to explain to some of the twits who have posted that there is a difference between a drink to calm nerves and being totally tranquilised and unaware of your actions. | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it This.
What is this nonsense!!
Why have is it some people are building this up to something it is quite clearly not.
Obviously there is no point trying to explain to some of the twits who have posted that there is a difference between a drink to calm nerves and being totally tranquilised and unaware of your actions. " | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it This.
What is this nonsense!!
Why have is it some people are building this up to something it is quite clearly not.
Obviously there is no point trying to explain to some of the twits who have posted that there is a difference between a drink to calm nerves and being totally tranquilised and unaware of your actions. "Or indeed acknowledging anyone who tried to be helpful. | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it This.
What is this nonsense!!
Why have is it some people are building this up to something it is quite clearly not.
Obviously there is no point trying to explain to some of the twits who have posted that there is a difference between a drink to calm nerves and being totally tranquilised and unaware of your actions. "Meh, you're the one who started the thread with the Mrs seemingly clueless as to how much alcohol she can handle | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it This.
What is this nonsense!!
Why have is it some people are building this up to something it is quite clearly not.
Obviously there is no point trying to explain to some of the twits who have posted that there is a difference between a drink to calm nerves and being totally tranquilised and unaware of your actions.
Meh, you're the one who started the thread with the Mrs seemingly clueless as to how much alcohol she can handle"She doesn't normally drink, it's easy to make a mistake under those circumstances. | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it This.
What is this nonsense!!
Why have is it some people are building this up to something it is quite clearly not.
Obviously there is no point trying to explain to some of the twits who have posted that there is a difference between a drink to calm nerves and being totally tranquilised and unaware of your actions.
Meh, you're the one who started the thread with the Mrs seemingly clueless as to how much alcohol she can handle
She doesn't normally drink, it's easy to make a mistake under those circumstances."I don't normally drink either. | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it This.
What is this nonsense!!
Why have is it some people are building this up to something it is quite clearly not.
Obviously there is no point trying to explain to some of the twits who have posted that there is a difference between a drink to calm nerves and being totally tranquilised and unaware of your actions. "Obviously there is a difference. People are merely making comments. I certainly wasn't suggesting she needs to be d*unk to do anything. However some do. If you think people are twits for having opinions then it says a lot about your attitude. Guilty conscience perhaps. | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it This.
What is this nonsense!!
Why have is it some people are building this up to something it is quite clearly not.
Obviously there is no point trying to explain to some of the twits who have posted that there is a difference between a drink to calm nerves and being totally tranquilised and unaware of your actions.
Meh, you're the one who started the thread with the Mrs seemingly clueless as to how much alcohol she can handle
She doesn't normally drink, it's easy to make a mistake under those circumstances."Hence my feeling that if someone who doesn't normally drink, 'needs' a drink to do something, then there is a problem. Doesn't matter if it's half a glass of wine or a crate. 'How do you find out at what point the woman is sufficiently tipsy enough to do something that she wouldn't do when sober...?' | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it This.
What is this nonsense!!
Why have is it some people are building this up to something it is quite clearly not.
Obviously there is no point trying to explain to some of the twits who have posted that there is a difference between a drink to calm nerves and being totally tranquilised and unaware of your actions.
Meh, you're the one who started the thread with the Mrs seemingly clueless as to how much alcohol she can handle
She doesn't normally drink, it's easy to make a mistake under those circumstances.
Hence my feeling that if someone who doesn't normally drink, 'needs' a drink to do something, then there is a problem. Doesn't matter if it's half a glass of wine or a crate.
'How do you find out at what point the woman is sufficiently tipsy enough to do something that she wouldn't do when sober...?' "yes and is she only doing dirty deed as a result of coercion!!!###@@#$%% | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it" We both love a drink say a glass of wine. We have a more relaxed attitude towards drink/wine. For us a glass of wine is synonymous with relaxing and grown up party time. Maybe it's the Mediterranean influence. If we didn't want to play or didn't fancy the other couple, no amount of alcohol would change that. | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it This.
What is this nonsense!!
Why have is it some people are building this up to something it is quite clearly not.
Obviously there is no point trying to explain to some of the twits who have posted that there is a difference between a drink to calm nerves and being totally tranquilised and unaware of your actions.
Meh, you're the one who started the thread with the Mrs seemingly clueless as to how much alcohol she can handle
She doesn't normally drink, it's easy to make a mistake under those circumstances.
Hence my feeling that if someone who doesn't normally drink, 'needs' a drink to do something, then there is a problem. Doesn't matter if it's half a glass of wine or a crate.
'How do you find out at what point the woman is sufficiently tipsy enough to do something that she wouldn't do when sober...?' "Good point. I don't think we can infer motive though I would hope that her willingness to participate was established before hand and she is genuinely just having a drink to relax. I do agree though that there is a point at which I would be refusing to get involved. | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it This.
What is this nonsense!!
Why have is it some people are building this up to something it is quite clearly not.
Obviously there is no point trying to explain to some of the twits who have posted that there is a difference between a drink to calm nerves and being totally tranquilised and unaware of your actions.
Meh, you're the one who started the thread with the Mrs seemingly clueless as to how much alcohol she can handle
She doesn't normally drink, it's easy to make a mistake under those circumstances.
Hence my feeling that if someone who doesn't normally drink, 'needs' a drink to do something, then there is a problem. Doesn't matter if it's half a glass of wine or a crate.
'How do you find out at what point the woman is sufficiently tipsy enough to do something that she wouldn't do when sober...?'
Good point. I don't think we can infer motive though I would hope that her willingness to participate was established before hand and she is genuinely just having a drink to relax. I do agree though that there is a point at which I would be refusing to get involved."I wasn't inferring a sinister motive, sorry if it seemed that way. My thoughts were of the couple as two people, not as one of them trying to coerce the other. Most swingers seem to need a drink to meet people. | |||
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"Whilst we both love swinging Mrs J usually likes a quick drink before we meet people or attend a party. Being on non drinker however it can be a bit of a hit or miss. If she gets the level right she feels totally relaxed and is usually the first one in the room naked. lol If she gets it wrong however she will feel too sleepy to be bothered. We just wish modern science would come up with something more precise to calm nerves, heighten libido & remove inhibitions than alcohol. "I don't drink alcohol and I'm usually the naked one dancing on tables it's all about being comfortable in yourself and realising that no matter what some people will like you some won't but who gives a toss about the naysayers | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it This.
What is this nonsense!!
Why have is it some people are building this up to something it is quite clearly not.
Obviously there is no point trying to explain to some of the twits who have posted that there is a difference between a drink to calm nerves and being totally tranquilised and unaware of your actions.
Meh, you're the one who started the thread with the Mrs seemingly clueless as to how much alcohol she can handle
She doesn't normally drink, it's easy to make a mistake under those circumstances.
Hence my feeling that if someone who doesn't normally drink, 'needs' a drink to do something, then there is a problem. Doesn't matter if it's half a glass of wine or a crate.
'How do you find out at what point the woman is sufficiently tipsy enough to do something that she wouldn't do when sober...?'
Good point. I don't think we can infer motive though I would hope that her willingness to participate was established before hand and she is genuinely just having a drink to relax. I do agree though that there is a point at which I would be refusing to get involved.
I wasn't inferring a sinister motive, sorry if it seemed that way. My thoughts were of the couple as two people, not as one of them trying to coerce the other.
Most swingers seem to need a drink to meet people. "I meant the lady's motive for drinking .
We were chatting about this over our coffee earlier, we often relax with a glass of wine or a beer before or during the lead up to sex even when it's just us two I'm probably looking at it from my experiences knowing it has no effect on what I would choose to do or who with. | |||
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"Errrmmm... I could sooo comment here and the thread would be taken down "Why - what would you say..? | |||
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"Errrmmm... I could sooo comment here and the thread would be taken down
Why - what would you say..?"would you comment supercalifragilisticexpialidocious? | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it This.
What is this nonsense!!
Why have is it some people are building this up to something it is quite clearly not.
Obviously there is no point trying to explain to some of the twits who have posted that there is a difference between a drink to calm nerves and being totally tranquilised and unaware of your actions.
Meh, you're the one who started the thread with the Mrs seemingly clueless as to how much alcohol she can handle
She doesn't normally drink, it's easy to make a mistake under those circumstances.
Hence my feeling that if someone who doesn't normally drink, 'needs' a drink to do something, then there is a problem. Doesn't matter if it's half a glass of wine or a crate.
'How do you find out at what point the woman is sufficiently tipsy enough to do something that she wouldn't do when sober...?'
Good point. I don't think we can infer motive though I would hope that her willingness to participate was established before hand and she is genuinely just having a drink to relax. I do agree though that there is a point at which I would be refusing to get involved.
I wasn't inferring a sinister motive, sorry if it seemed that way. My thoughts were of the couple as two people, not as one of them trying to coerce the other.
Most swingers seem to need a drink to meet people. "The trouble is that you did specifically infer a sinister motive and when (surprise, surprise!)we found it obnoxious you then backed it up by suggesting we had a "guilty conscience". That's the trouble with these forums. Some people go way beyond explaining their own motivation to then making arbitrary judgements about other peoples motivation. Based upon what precisely? A training in psycho analysis from Toytown Community College? | |||
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"Whilst we both love swinging Mrs J usually likes a quick drink before we meet people or attend a party. Being on non drinker however it can be a bit of a hit or miss. If she gets the level right she feels totally relaxed and is usually the first one in the room naked. lol If she gets it wrong however she will feel too sleepy to be bothered. We just wish modern science would come up with something more precise to calm nerves, heighten libido & remove inhibitions than alcohol. "I'm with you on this. Other week myself and bf went to a club for the first time. I drank enough that got my in the mood for some fun. We had our fun but he felt he had a point to prove and drank a full bottle of whisky and passed out. Luckly for us the lady that ran the club was k8nd enough to let him sleep it off. He's on a drink ban this weekend and got a lot of saying his sorry and thank you xxxx | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it This.
What is this nonsense!!
Why have is it some people are building this up to something it is quite clearly not.
Obviously there is no point trying to explain to some of the twits who have posted that there is a difference between a drink to calm nerves and being totally tranquilised and unaware of your actions.
Meh, you're the one who started the thread with the Mrs seemingly clueless as to how much alcohol she can handle
She doesn't normally drink, it's easy to make a mistake under those circumstances.
Hence my feeling that if someone who doesn't normally drink, 'needs' a drink to do something, then there is a problem. Doesn't matter if it's half a glass of wine or a crate.
'How do you find out at what point the woman is sufficiently tipsy enough to do something that she wouldn't do when sober...?'
Good point. I don't think we can infer motive though I would hope that her willingness to participate was established before hand and she is genuinely just having a drink to relax. I do agree though that there is a point at which I would be refusing to get involved.
I wasn't inferring a sinister motive, sorry if it seemed that way. My thoughts were of the couple as two people, not as one of them trying to coerce the other.
Most swingers seem to need a drink to meet people.
The trouble is that you did specifically infer a sinister motive and when (surprise, surprise!)we found it obnoxious you then backed it up by suggesting we had a "guilty conscience".
That's the trouble with these forums. Some people go way beyond explaining their own motivation to then making arbitrary judgements about other peoples motivation.
Based upon what precisely? A training in psycho analysis from Toytown Community College?
"Think whatever you like, I really don't care. I'm not the one that needs alcohol to have a fuck. | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it This.
What is this nonsense!!
Why have is it some people are building this up to something it is quite clearly not.
Obviously there is no point trying to explain to some of the twits who have posted that there is a difference between a drink to calm nerves and being totally tranquilised and unaware of your actions.
Meh, you're the one who started the thread with the Mrs seemingly clueless as to how much alcohol she can handle
She doesn't normally drink, it's easy to make a mistake under those circumstances.
Hence my feeling that if someone who doesn't normally drink, 'needs' a drink to do something, then there is a problem. Doesn't matter if it's half a glass of wine or a crate.
'How do you find out at what point the woman is sufficiently tipsy enough to do something that she wouldn't do when sober...?'
Good point. I don't think we can infer motive though I would hope that her willingness to participate was established before hand and she is genuinely just having a drink to relax. I do agree though that there is a point at which I would be refusing to get involved.
I wasn't inferring a sinister motive, sorry if it seemed that way. My thoughts were of the couple as two people, not as one of them trying to coerce the other.
Most swingers seem to need a drink to meet people.
The trouble is that you did specifically infer a sinister motive and when (surprise, surprise!)we found it obnoxious you then backed it up by suggesting we had a "guilty conscience".
That's the trouble with these forums. Some people go way beyond explaining their own motivation to then making arbitrary judgements about other peoples motivation.
Based upon what precisely? A training in psycho analysis from Toytown Community College?
Think whatever you like, I really don't care. I'm not the one that needs alcohol to have a fuck. " I will bring Evian  | |||
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"personally i think if you need a drink to perform then i would wonder if they wanted to actually do it This.
What is this nonsense!!
Why have is it some people are building this up to something it is quite clearly not.
Obviously there is no point trying to explain to some of the twits who have posted that there is a difference between a drink to calm nerves and being totally tranquilised and unaware of your actions.
Meh, you're the one who started the thread with the Mrs seemingly clueless as to how much alcohol she can handle
She doesn't normally drink, it's easy to make a mistake under those circumstances.
Hence my feeling that if someone who doesn't normally drink, 'needs' a drink to do something, then there is a problem. Doesn't matter if it's half a glass of wine or a crate.
'How do you find out at what point the woman is sufficiently tipsy enough to do something that she wouldn't do when sober...?'
Good point. I don't think we can infer motive though I would hope that her willingness to participate was established before hand and she is genuinely just having a drink to relax. I do agree though that there is a point at which I would be refusing to get involved.
I wasn't inferring a sinister motive, sorry if it seemed that way. My thoughts were of the couple as two people, not as one of them trying to coerce the other.
Most swingers seem to need a drink to meet people.
The trouble is that you did specifically infer a sinister motive and when (surprise, surprise!)we found it obnoxious you then backed it up by suggesting we had a "guilty conscience".
That's the trouble with these forums. Some people go way beyond explaining their own motivation to then making arbitrary judgements about other peoples motivation.
Based upon what precisely? A training in psycho analysis from Toytown Community College?
"hehe hey all messages / threads have some ambiguities and people will read and get out of them what they want ,if the lady was being giving alcohol to aid her to do the act thats wrong but think this was solely about nerves maybe its just not her thing | |||
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