FabSwingers.com forum: #bareback... again..

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I really do have to know, what is the problem on here!!!

So some people enjoy going bareback (not for me personally but each to their own)

Why on earth do people whenever there is a hint of another couple enjoying bareback start shouting it from the rooftop (or forum top)

It is up to them what they do not us or anyone else.

Fine don't meet them, that's as much your choice as it is theirs to do it.

I know this sounds like a rant because it is one.

So many hypocritical people on here its horrendous. YOU are on a swingers site having sex with people you don't bloody know and we are abusing people because we judge their preference more risky than our own..

It's like having a go at someone for jumping out of an aeroplane without a parachute and thinking your better than them because you have an umbrella!!

Rant over... carry on!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you don't do bareback, how are you encountering this backlash at the hint of wanting bareback?

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

It,s the same one,s all the time that just have a go and that little clique just follow each all day every day through the threads

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Judging others is life. Those who usually harp on that they never judge others are often the most judgemental of all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We choose not to do bareback on the basis of balance of risk. We do not decry those that do but will not meet those who state that they do. Where is the fuss?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't understand how some will not people who do bb

if you use condoms you are safe.

not playing shows you don't trust condoms so you shouldn't be playing at all by that reckoning

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is because you might meet some one who barebacks and they pass something on to you orally despite you not doing bare back.

If you do bare back at any time you should inform any new meets before hand to let them decide if they want you or not . Lets be honest most guys don't want a cancelation so probably would not be honest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People can do what they want, My only issue is when they have on their profile that they don't do bareback and they actually do,

I have seen lots of pictures on here of Women/couples having sex without using one(and it's not their other half)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We choose not to do bareback on the basis of balance of risk. We do not decry those that do but will not meet those who state that they do. Where is the fuss?"

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If people are so risk averse to sti's swinging aint the right game.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Op.. I don't know what has rattled yer cage. Calm down its fantasy world not tescos. Some guys cant wear condoms. Yea safe sex.. Unless you know the cocks sexual history is a big risk... Chastising innocent people who prefer sliding their meat in unprotected is their preference.

Happy holiday swinging

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bareback is sex with proper feelings, just spin the russian roulette

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By *izzyRascalWoman
over a year ago

North Hants

"People can do what they want, My only issue is when they have on their profile that they don't do bareback and they actually do,

I have seen lots of pictures on here of Women/couples having sex without using one(and it's not their other half)"

Yes don't like this either. And agree its their bodies. If they want to risk them its their choice. Just don't want to be put at risk myself!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People can do what they want, My only issue is when they have on their profile that they don't do bareback and they actually do,

I have seen lots of pictures on here of Women/couples having sex without using one(and it's not their other half)"

Tis true... Seen loads of bareback photos. Hardly any condom ones... You are not wrong.. Yet claim no bareback. If you dont want stis try sti free fab site lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If people are so risk averse to sti's swinging aint the right game.

Nope. We accept that there is an inherent risk but take the decision to limit that risk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't understand how some will not people who do bb

if you use condoms you are safe.

not playing shows you don't trust condoms so you shouldn't be playing at all by that reckoning "

Using condoms is only safer not completely safe. If you have sex with someone you know exposes themselves to risk of STIs, then however small it is, the risk to you also increases, particularly knowingly engaging in oral sex with them. Obviously you can't always be sure that people are honest which is why it's always better to use condoms anyway. It's all down to personal preference which I agree should be respected but I also think it's important to make an informed decision and I wanted to make it clear that using condoms doesn't guarantee you won't contract anything but it does greatly reduce the risk.

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By *izzyRascalWoman
over a year ago

North Hants

"If people are so risk averse to sti's swinging aint the right game.

Nope. We accept that there is an inherent risk but take the decision to limit that risk. "

Yes exactly!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Firstly as one posted life is judging others at times and I agree with that I also happily state we would not meet anyone into bareback but my point is not if they do or don't meet barebackers, more the whole moral outrage when there is a sniff on the forum of people who do.

As for the comment earlier about if I wanted to try it! No thanks, bareback is between my wife and I only thank you.

Forever seeing as on one thread earlier people being judged for it which I cannot see any good reason for.

I suppose it irritates that on a swingers site people are so judgemental. Sexually liberated, not as much as I thought the scene would be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Firstly as one posted life is judging others at times and I agree with that I also happily state we would not meet anyone into bareback but my point is not if they do or don't meet barebackers, more the whole moral outrage when there is a sniff on the forum of people who do.

As for the comment earlier about if I wanted to try it! No thanks, bareback is between my wife and I only thank you.

Forever seeing as on one thread earlier people being judged for it which I cannot see any good reason for.

I suppose it irritates that on a swingers site people are so judgemental. Sexually liberated, not as much as I thought the scene would be. "

I do not think that whether someone does bareback or not is a determination of sexual liberation. It is a determination of risk and common sense. You do not do it. We do not do it. Why raise it?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I do not think that whether someone does bareback or not is a determination of sexual liberation. It is a determination of risk and common sense. You do not do it. We do not do it. Why raise it?"

I didn't say if taking part in bareback made them Sexually liberated or not but it shows how the forums are not as it points to not accepting other people's choice to bareback.

Your right you don't and we don't but it's not about if we or you do or don't again it's more about acceptance of others choices.

I don't dress up in a frock for sex but it does not mean that we should not defend the rights of those who do to do so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being targeted to some extent by you from my last posts I'll clarify. My own personal issue is if people do unprotected then fine. Problem is some i have met, either conceal they do it or try too push me to do it. I have worked as a front line nurse and hiv is a life changing horrible illness. Condoms are not 100% safe so your odds of having sex with someone doing bb increases your risk even with protection. If i preach on you don't have to listen, plus im not on my high horse, l am just against people from risking and spreading awful awful illness

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By *hloe sussexTV/TS
over a year ago

Larne

"I really do have to know, what is the problem on here!!!

So some people enjoy going bareback (not for me personally but each to their own)

Why on earth do people whenever there is a hint of another couple enjoying bareback start shouting it from the rooftop (or forum top)

It is up to them what they do not us or anyone else.

Fine don't meet them, that's as much your choice as it is theirs to do it.

I know this sounds like a rant because it is one.

It's like having a go at someone for jumping out of an aeroplane without a parachute and thinking your better than them because you have an umbrella!!

Rant over... carry on!

As you say each to there own ,do these ppl also like Russian roulette ?

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

and the need to block and make notes when they live 350 mile away and wouldnt have dreamt of contacting you in the first place

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In a nutshell, i only meet up with ppl who only practice safe sex. I have a problem when they dont respect my wishes. Sorry if i repeated myself

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Its a sin

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its a sin"
Depends how religious someone are tho.

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

Ok OP, so you're ranting at the anti-bareback crowd, telling them not to judge barebackers for their preferences, whilst essentially judging them to be judgemental

Good luck with that

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Its a sinDepends how religious someone are tho."

Bareback is the sin; not recreational sex; that is AOK

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its a sinDepends how religious someone are tho.

Bareback is the sin; not recreational sex; that is AOK"
Yes but I thought that the word SIN is only used in a religious way?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do not think that whether someone does bareback or not is a determination of sexual liberation. It is a determination of risk and common sense. You do not do it. We do not do it. Why raise it?

I didn't say if taking part in bareback made them Sexually liberated or not but it shows how the forums are not as it points to not accepting other people's choice to bareback.

Your right you don't and we don't but it's not about if we or you do or don't again it's more about acceptance of others choices.

I don't dress up in a frock for sex but it does not mean that we should not defend the rights of those who do to do so."

Sorry. I do not agree with it. I will not stand up for the rights of those who do it nor will I put them down. I just won't meet them.

PS. Try a frock. It is fun.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Its a sinDepends how religious someone are tho.

Bareback is the sin; not recreational sex; that is AOKYes but I thought that the word SIN is only used in a religious way?"

Nope; bareback is a swinging sin as well as a religious sin

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By *indandfireCouple
over a year ago

ashbourne

So if you are worried by oral with a bareback couple, and most seem to agree that it would put them at risk, surely oral with anyone is also risky. After all anyone can have picked up an sti from another couple orally and pass it on in the same way. Or do you all use a condom for oral?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its a sinDepends how religious someone are tho.

Bareback is the sin; not recreational sex; that is AOKYes but I thought that the word SIN is only used in a religious way?

Nope; bareback is a swinging sin as well as a religious sin

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I see yes and I get it now lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if you are worried by oral with a bareback couple, and most seem to agree that it would put them at risk, surely oral with anyone is also risky. After all anyone can have picked up an sti from another couple orally and pass it on in the same way. Or do you all use a condom for oral? "

It is not about eliminating risk. It as about minimising it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I am not judging the fact they will not meet them as we will not meet them either and for the same reason of trying to lower the risk of catching sti's I also understand that people have a dislike of their choice to play bareback but it's the open contempt with which any post they make is treated as if they are not entitled to an opinion on a subject because of that choice.

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By *indandfireCouple
over a year ago

ashbourne

It is not about eliminating risk. It as about minimising it."

Sadly oral sex is as likely to pass on sti as penetration but I would guess very few use a condom for oral so the hatred of those who bareback is certainly extreme hypocracy. Swinging puts even those who soft swap at a greatly increased risk to sexual health. That is something we should all be aware of rather than casting stones at some people

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

"I am not judging the fact they will not meet them as we will not meet them either and for the same reason of trying to lower the risk of catching sti's I also understand that people have a dislike of their choice to play bareback but it's the open contempt with which any post they make is treated as if they are not entitled to an opinion on a subject because of that choice."

Then you devalue the opinions of the people with the opposing _iew if they have strong feelings on the subject they are going to react in an empassioned way, an impassioned _iewpoint isn't automatically contempt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is not about eliminating risk. It as about minimising it.

Totally agree and we insist on condoms for oral, was told if do that he wouldn't do oral on me .told him that was fine ..totally shut him up .I love sex but I love my health more

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Well for me the issue is, despite some veris being shown, one never knows who has met who.

And I don't want to end up meeting someone who met someone who gave them an STD thanks.

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By *mokes n MirrorsCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth and Newcastle (sometimes)

So we're guessing all the safesexers rubber all your toys before using on another female and that you also insist that oral sex is also protected in the same way and fem to fem oral is done using a dam....That is the only way people can have 'safe' sex. This was told to us by the nurse at GUM whom we guess knows what she's talking about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As said before you can catch all sorts from oral. Do you wear a condom for a blow job or a mouth guard when licking a woman's pussy?

It's all a risk, just using a condom lessens that risk. Each to their own 'n all!

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By *lwaysup4it69Couple
over a year ago

Kirkby in Ashfield

We bareback, we know the risks and we are honest about it with others. Don't think it's fair to slate those who do bb or those who dont

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By *o-jCouple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

I'm all for safe sex and people having opinions etc , even those that shout everyone down over it .

BUT WHAT REALLY PISSES ME OFF IS , those that shout about how dangerous and disgusting etc it is .

When it's in a story that someone has written , I mean it's a story / fantasy ffs .

Jo x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do bare back,

, but only with one man. He only bare backs with me. Anyone else is covered! Or your not coming in. I have 4 little commitments and protect myself.

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By *easing_twoCouple
over a year ago

Bristol, Thornbury

Tis true... Seen loads of bareback photos. Hardly any condom ones... You are not wrong.. Yet claim no bareback. If you dont want stis try sti free fab site lol "

Hrmmm so are we not to post pics if the condom is not visible?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tis true... Seen loads of bareback photos. Hardly any condom ones... You are not wrong.. Yet claim no bareback. If you dont want stis try sti free fab site lol

Hrmmm so are we not to post pics if the condom is not visible?

You can post whatever pics you like guys

There are a few who use condoms and dams for oral , on the premis it will lessen the risks .

And there are even some who wash their hands between playing with different people . Imagine that in a threesome ..... Finger the lady , wash hands , put on a dam , lick , mouthwash , clean hands and then do the same with the other lady ... Horny huh ?

So while not advocating nor decrying how anyone plays , we would definately want to know if the above scenario was likely . That's certainly not gonna float our boat .

Risk assessment is fine , lowering the risk within reason is also fine , but to be honest , as a previous poster said - if you are so paranoid that you worry about everything that may happen - maybe swinging isn't a good lifestyle choice .

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham

"I really do have to know, what is the problem on here!!!

So some people enjoy going bareback (not for me personally but each to their own)

Why on earth do people whenever there is a hint of another couple enjoying bareback start shouting it from the rooftop (or forum top)

It is up to them what they do not us or anyone else.

Fine don't meet them, that's as much your choice as it is theirs to do it.

I know this sounds like a rant because it is one.

It's like having a go at someone for jumping out of an aeroplane without a parachute and thinking your better than them because you have an umbrella!!

Rant over... carry on!

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In the UK, 680 people with HIV died last year, 1730 died in car crashes. Put a condom on your car.Lol. x

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Do you think we should start calling it Dareback?

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

Fact...it is safer to go bareback than to attempt to skydive without a parachute. QED

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Of course they are entitled to an opinion. Everyone is. I don't understand your point. They will say yes, you will say no.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham

"Fact...it is safer to go bareback than to attempt to skydive without a parachute. QED"
Yes, safer than driving to Tescos too

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham

"I do bare back,

, but only with one man. He only bare backs with me. Anyone else is covered! Or your not coming in. I have 4 little commitments and protect myself. "
I get lots of straight, married guys who say ' only this once'.lol

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham

"So we're guessing all the safesexers rubber all your toys before using on another female and that you also insist that oral sex is also protected in the same way and fem to fem oral is done using a dam....That is the only way people can have 'safe' sex. This was told to us by the nurse at GUM whom we guess knows what she's talking about."
Absolutely right. I do dom sessions, and always put a condom on the dildo/strap-on. (usually girls fucking ts), and they always ask me, with a laugh, why you doing that ?, she wont get pregnant.x

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham

Tis true... Seen loads of bareback photos. Hardly any condom ones... You are not wrong.. Yet claim no bareback. If you dont want stis try sti free fab site lol

Hrmmm so are we not to post pics if the condom is not visible?

You can post whatever pics you like guys

There are a few who use condoms and dams for oral , on the premis it will lessen the risks .

So while not advocating nor decrying how anyone plays , we would definately want to know if the above scenario was likely . That's certainly not gonna float our boat .

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham

"I really do have to know, what is the problem on here!!!

So some people enjoy going bareback (not for me personally but each to their own)

Why on earth do people whenever there is a hint of another couple enjoying bareback start shouting it from the rooftop (or forum top)

It is up to them what they do not us or anyone else.

Fine don't meet them, that's as much your choice as it is theirs to do it.

I know this sounds like a rant because it is one.

It's like having a go at someone for jumping out of an aeroplane without a parachute and thinking your better than them because you have an umbrella!!

Rant over... carry on!

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You guys have it sussed. Hugs, Loretta.xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Judging others is life. Those who usually harp on that they never judge others are often the most judgemental of all "

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By *ancyDrewWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

"In the UK, 680 people with HIV died last year, 1730 died in car crashes. Put a condom on your car.Lol. x"

You cannot die from HIV. You can die from AIDS related illness. However, that is only if you do not take medication. Am not sure you were saying you COULD die from HIV, but it is worth reiterating!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bareback or safe sex is yummy. A mouth, pussy or ass full of spunk is tasty for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing pleases me more then a bare cock coming inside me I love a pussy full of cum however that is only with one person anyone else is condom full stop no sex is worth a std

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People can do what they want, My only issue is when they have on their profile that they don't do bareback and they actually do,

I have seen lots of pictures on here of Women/couples having sex without using one(and it's not their other half)"

We state on our profile we don't go bareback but when it's just me and husband playing we aren't as bothered about it. It's the risk with other people we are more worried about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My opinion is those that do bareback really don't care 'that much' about the consequences of their actions. All they are interested in is their own selfish satisfaction, and it will only be a matter of time before they pick up an STI and then pass it on to everyone they fuck.

Yes some DO get tested on a regular basis (although they may have picked up/passed on something in between) but I bet 9 out of 10 don't.

Lastly I am well aware that 'any' kind of promiscuous sex carries a risk but condoms minimizes it dramatically.

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By *ieutenantMan
over a year ago

london

Bareback thread is rearing its ugly head again? What a volatile topic .If you are against barebacking you will be labelled moral crusader.your best bet is to remained mute on the issue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I really do have to know, what is the problem on here!!!

So some people enjoy going bareback (not for me personally but each to their own)

Why on earth do people whenever there is a hint of another couple enjoying bareback start shouting it from the rooftop (or forum top)

It is up to them what they do not us or anyone else.

Fine don't meet them, that's as much your choice as it is theirs to do it.

I know this sounds like a rant because it is one.

It's like having a go at someone for jumping out of an aeroplane without a parachute and thinking your better than them because you have an umbrella!!

Rant over... carry on!

People like to feel superior I suppose. We enjoy bareback with select few. Each to their own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People like to feel superior I suppose. We enjoy bareback with select few. Each to their own."

A 'select' few? Your profile would suggest other wise:

"We prefer to meet several men across the night, and often two or more at at time. Our pictures show what we enjoy. N is a complete cum slut, and will drain balls faster and more fully than anyone, all without wasting a drop."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People like to feel superior I suppose. We enjoy bareback with select few. Each to their own.

A 'select' few? Your profile would suggest other wise:

We prefer to meet several men across the night, and often two or more at at time. Our pictures show what we enjoy. N is a complete cum slut, and will drain balls faster and more fully than anyone, all without wasting a drop.

Yes, men we know well. We are on Fab to find men, who we will perhaps play bb with after a few meets. Good to see you can stalk and quote though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, men we know well. We are on Fab to find men, who we will perhaps play bb with after a few meets. Good to see you can stalk and quote though."

After they have been tested the day before? Or do you just take the word from ones you 'say' you know well?

Personally I think there should be a bareback warning icon (on all profiles) just so guys that do practice safe sex can avoid them.

Oh and I'm sorry for singling you out but you did stick your head up over the barbed wire

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

Yes, men we know well. We are on Fab to find men, who we will perhaps play bb with after a few meets. Good to see you can stalk and quote though.

After they have been tested the day before? Or do you just take the word from ones you 'say' you know well?

Personally I think there should be a bareback warning icon (on all profiles) just so guys that do practice safe sex can avoid them.

Oh and I'm sorry for singling you out but you did stick your head up over the barbed wire

People could just lie and not check the bareback box in though order to try and get more meets, in the same way there's a good proportion of "non smokers" on the site so it wouldn't work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ohh I love a bareback thread

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

To sum up every bareback thread....

Some do, some don't.

Those that do, know the risks.

Those that don't know the risks.

Those that do, don't like criticism for doing so as it it a personal choice.

Those that don't, will sometimes criticise.

The thread then closes.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"To sum up every bareback thread....

Some do, some don't.

Those that do, know the risks.

Those that don't know the risks.

Those that do, don't like criticism for doing so as it it a personal choice.

Those that don't, will sometimes criticise.

The thread then closes."

You could say that about any thread though. More and more on here, the topic and content of threads is getting less and less diverse, because elf comments like this .. newbie feel they cannot comment because everyone knows the score. If you think its going to be an interesting read, read on, if not, dont bother. The forums are become. increasingly bland and people are becoming less reluctant to post a thread thatinvites debate ... I think that is a bit sad to be honest

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

I _iew it as the swinging equivalent of people who don't wash their hands after they have been to the toilet.

Its pretty unhygenic, and they are therefore a bit grubby, but its their life and their choice, as long as they tell you so that you can avoid them, it's fine.

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over a year ago

"I _iew it as the swinging equivalent of people who don't wash their hands after they have been to the toilet.

Its pretty unhygienic, and they are therefore a bit grubby, but its their life and their choice, as long as they tell you so that you can avoid them, it's fine. "

I saw a reply on another thread that likened bareback fucking to drink driving (which is probably a more accurate analogy) You get away with it 9 times but on the 10th you ended up plowing into a bus stop full of people.

People that bareback on a regular basis will ALL end up with an STI - at some point - and then it will get passed around with whoever they fuck.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"I _iew it as the swinging equivalent of people who don't wash their hands after they have been to the toilet.

Its pretty unhygienic, and they are therefore a bit grubby, but its their life and their choice, as long as they tell you so that you can avoid them, it's fine.

People that bareback on a regular basis will ALL end up with an STI - at some point - and then it will get passed around with whoever they fuck.

True - so the last thing we need isfor them to go underground - its useful to know who your local disease pits are.

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over a year ago

"I _iew it as the swinging equivalent of people who don't wash their hands after they have been to the toilet.

Its pretty unhygienic, and they are therefore a bit grubby, but its their life and their choice, as long as they tell you so that you can avoid them, it's fine.

People that bareback on a regular basis will ALL end up with an STI - at some point - and then it will get passed around with whoever they fuck.

I spent the first twenty years of my sex life pulling random women every other weekend and hardly ever wore a condom...literally hundreds of people, who also were obviously ok with bareback and never contracted a thing.

I think the levels of paranoia may be a bit high and the level of risk a lot lower than folk think.

That's my own personal experience anyhow

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"I _iew it as the swinging equivalent of people who don't wash their hands after they have been to the toilet.

Its pretty unhygienic, and they are therefore a bit grubby, but its their life and their choice, as long as they tell you so that you can avoid them, it's fine.

People that bareback on a regular basis will ALL end up with an STI - at some point - and then it will get passed around with whoever they fuck.

I think the levels of paranoia may be a bit high and the level of risk a lot lower than folk think.

That's my own personal experience anyhow

Bully for you - like I said, this kind of thing is useful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I _iew it as the swinging equivalent of people who don't wash their hands after they have been to the toilet.

Its pretty unhygienic, and they are therefore a bit grubby, but its their life and their choice, as long as they tell you so that you can avoid them, it's fine.

People that bareback on a regular basis will ALL end up with an STI - at some point - and then it will get passed around with whoever they fuck.

Not if you do sufficient vetting before you sleep with someone and ask questions about their sexual health and both agree to have a test before agreeing to fuck.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I _iew it as the swinging equivalent of people who don't wash their hands after they have been to the toilet.

Its pretty unhygienic, and they are therefore a bit grubby, but its their life and their choice, as long as they tell you so that you can avoid them, it's fine.

People that bareback on a regular basis will ALL end up with an STI - at some point - and then it will get passed around with whoever they fuck.

.or they just get tested and treated

If they have met people in that period inform them and let them get treated too.

One thing I've noticed is a lot of the people who speak loudest about being safe don't get tested and if they did test positive for anything wouldn't tell past partners out of embarrassment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I _iew it as the swinging equivalent of people who don't wash their hands after they have been to the toilet.

Its pretty unhygienic, and they are therefore a bit grubby, but its their life and their choice, as long as they tell you so that you can avoid them, it's fine.

People that bareback on a regular basis will ALL end up with an STI - at some point - and then it will get passed around with whoever they fuck.

I think the levels of paranoia may be a bit high and the level of risk a lot lower than folk think.

That's my own personal experience anyhow

Bully for you - like I said, this kind of thing is useful.

No need to be like that.

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over a year ago

"I _iew it as the swinging equivalent of people who don't wash their hands after they have been to the toilet.

Its pretty unhygienic, and they are therefore a bit grubby, but its their life and their choice, as long as they tell you so that you can avoid them, it's fine.

People that bareback on a regular basis will ALL end up with an STI - at some point - and then it will get passed around with whoever they fuck.

.or they just get tested and treated

If they have met people in that period inform them and let them get treated too.

One thing I've noticed is a lot of the people who speak loudest about being safe don't get tested and if they did test positive for anything wouldn't tell past partners out of embarrassment "

They probably think condoms make them safe.

They attatch stigma to std's more than most other deseases somehow.

It's a funny old world how people think

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By *eddonistikMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"I really do have to know, what is the problem on here!!!

So some people enjoy going bareback (not for me personally but each to their own)

Why on earth do people whenever there is a hint of another couple enjoying bareback start shouting it from the rooftop (or forum top)

It is up to them what they do not us or anyone else.

Fine don't meet them, that's as much your choice as it is theirs to do it.

I know this sounds like a rant because it is one.

It's like having a go at someone for jumping out of an aeroplane without a parachute and thinking your better than them because you have an umbrella!!

Rant over... carry on!

Damn right, in my opinion whatever floats your boat

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

People get so preachy about this subject as if they know the real truth and everyone else is a moron.

Its really NOT that complicated. If you prefer to practice safer sex, then practice safer sex. If you don't want to, then find someone else who likes to play that way too.

Both groups should get tested, how regularly depends on how much you are meeting, and ask your clinic for advice.

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By *eddonistikMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"People get so preachy about this subject as if they know the real truth and everyone else is a moron.

Its really NOT that complicated. If you prefer to practice safer sex, then practice safer sex. If you don't want to, then find someone else who likes to play that way too.

Both groups should get tested, how regularly depends on how much you are meeting, and ask your clinic for advice."

I personally go every three months.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People get so preachy about this subject as if they know the real truth and everyone else is a moron.

Its really NOT that complicated. If you prefer to practice safer sex, then practice safer sex. If you don't want to, then find someone else who likes to play that way too.

Both groups should get tested, how regularly depends on how much you are meeting, and ask your clinic for advice."

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By *awBttm2fuckMan
over a year ago

York

In my experience people, even those who claim to do safe sex, bareback at times. It's spontaneous natural sex.

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By *entcockslutCouple
over a year ago

canterbury

We only fuck bareback and it's our own choice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We only fuck bareback and it's our own choice "

Seem to of had a lot of meets, do you worry at times ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We only fuck bareback and it's our own choice "

Looking at your profile doesn't mention that, so maybe wasting people's time by not mentioning that you only duck bareback, yes yes we can see you haven't got safe sex listed, but not everyone who practises safe sex has that as an interest x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Duck = Fuck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do both x safe sex and bareback.

I am not ashamed to say that bareback sex is more enjoyable either. Just feels better.

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By *eddonistikMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"We only fuck bareback and it's our own choice

If I see that a profile doesn't include 'Safe Sex' I presume BB.

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By *entcockslutCouple
over a year ago

canterbury

And yes we both get tested every six weeks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many people have stated that OP is hypocritical for judging people that judge , in my opinion if your going to be reckless and selfish with others people health and life you deserve to be judged , I'm with the OP on this .

Life is to short but it don't warrant making it shorter .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Derrrr! Sorry meant I'm not with OP on this one .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And yes we both get tested every six weeks"

Getting tested stop you catching something will it ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And yes we both get tested every six weeks

Getting tested stop you catching something will it ??

People that use condoms are still at risk. If they think they are 'safe' and never bother getting tested then what would you say about those types?

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

"And yes we both get tested every six weeks

Getting tested stop you catching something will it ??

No, but it will tell you if you have something; so you can do something about it, and more importantly, moderate your activities , to reduce the risk to others;

Which is, I believe, the most important moral responsibility .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I _iew it as the swinging equivalent of people who don't wash their hands after they have been to the toilet.

Its pretty unhygienic, and they are therefore a bit grubby, but its their life and their choice, as long as they tell you so that you can avoid them, it's fine.

People that bareback on a regular basis will ALL end up with an STI - at some point - and then it will get passed around with whoever they fuck.

True - so the last thing we need isfor them to go underground - its useful to know who your local disease pits are. "

Disease pits?

See People like you....your the reason that folk who do bareback keep quiet about it, because of the horrible scaremongering name calling fools.

People like you really don't help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And yes we both get tested every six weeks

Getting tested stop you catching something will it ??

People that use condoms are still at risk. If they think they are 'safe' and never bother getting tested then what would you say about those types?"

I'd say the same I can stand on my high horse as I use protection and get tested regular and can prove it

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over a year ago

"I _iew it as the swinging equivalent of people who don't wash their hands after they have been to the toilet.

Its pretty unhygienic, and they are therefore a bit grubby, but its their life and their choice, as long as they tell you so that you can avoid them, it's fine.

People that bareback on a regular basis will ALL end up with an STI - at some point - and then it will get passed around with whoever they fuck.

All? Who bareback catch an sti?

Be interested to know where you got those figures from

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

anyone changed their behaviour yet as a result of this thread?

just wondering

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Many people have stated that OP is hypocritical for judging people that judge , in my opinion if your going to be reckless and selfish with others people health and life you deserve to be judged , I'm with the OP on this .

Life is to short but it don't warrant making it shorter . "

You might consider it reckless and selfish, but the other way to look at it is that it's two consenting adults who made a conscious decision about how they wanted to play.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have met couples who profile says safe sex as a preference but come the meet prefer bb.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We have met couples who profile says safe sex as a preference but come the meet prefer bb. "

I take it if they've ticked safe sex, they are willing to have safe sex, not that they prefer safe sex.

I have water sports ticked but it's not a pre requisite to play, same as safe sex. it's something people do, so they tick it, like all the other tick boxes.

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By *awBttm2fuckMan
over a year ago

York

"I do both x safe sex and bareback.

I am not ashamed to say that bareback sex is more enjoyable either. Just feels better."

Of course it feels better. There is nothing to feel wearing a condom.

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By *eddonistikMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"We have met couples who profile says safe sex as a preference but come the meet prefer bb. "

Often the way, people put it on their profiles but when it comes down to having fun?

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over a year ago

"We have met couples who profile says safe sex as a preference but come the meet prefer bb.

Often the way, people put it on their profiles but when it comes down to having fun?"

Many cpls say safe, but with cpls they play bare. This is just the way it is.

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By *adysueandneroCouple
over a year ago

witney

We find these "bareback" threads very useful. As it means we can select the kind of people that we would like. We have no problem with anyone that only plays safe. But we do have a problem with anyone (like the cretin above that calls women who like bareback as "disease pits"). We would never to be friends with anyone in the vanila world that thinks like that let alone in the swinging world. We find the block function very useful for those people. And would urge others to do the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cover the bits with climflim, even the mouth when kissing; creates a barrier, so I am told. Not tried it yet, but I will

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Life is to short but it don't warrant making it shorter . "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If people are so risk averse to sti's swinging aint the right game.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like some have said here, due to receiving abuse those who enjoy bareback fun will keep it quiet. Some couples like us have maybe one or two couples they trust and play bareback with when they meet. We still ensure we get tested every 3 months. Notice I Jez say some couples I am at no point suggesting ALL couples .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you wish to play safe, then play safe, I don't understand the issue.

Ok you may disagree with some ones practices where it be safe sex, anal, gay or Bi.

Point is who cares. If you meet and practise safe sex, just do that lol. Any one judging others because they don't agree might need to move on a few generations.

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over a year ago

"If you wish to play safe, then play safe, I don't understand the issue.

Ok you may disagree with some ones practices where it be safe sex, anal, gay or Bi.

Point is who cares. If you meet and practise safe sex, just do that lol. Any one judging others because they don't agree might need to move on a few generations. "

I care. I want to play as safe as possible and I wouldn't touch a Woman with a bargepole, if she admitted she did bareback with people from here. Yes she might have checkups at the GUM clinic every 6 weeks, but even if I wear a condom I could still pick up HPV/Herpes/Hepatitis/HIV anytime before that test.

One question I would like to ask the Men/Women that would consider fucking bareback is; Would you consider fucking a Man/Woman if you 'knew' they had an incurable STI? Because lets face it, if you do bareback there is a far greater chance of you fucking a Man/Woman with an incurable STI than one that has always used protection.

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

If you use that as a yardstick then surely you should also avoid bi-men and any person who recieves or gives anal sex as that is more risky than any other form of sex.

The only thing we can do is educate ourselves about the real risks involved with all forms of sex and make a decision about who we play with based on that.

In other words look after ourselves and leave others to look after themselves.

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By *awBttm2fuckMan
over a year ago

York

"If you wish to play safe, then play safe, I don't understand the issue.

Ok you may disagree with some ones practices where it be safe sex, anal, gay or Bi.

Point is who cares. If you meet and practise safe sex, just do that lol. Any one judging others because they don't agree might need to move on a few generations.

The only "safe sex" is no sex. If you are so uptight about each and every risk, give up sex.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if everyone who joined in on bareback gangbangs and creampie events got themselves checked out at the gum clinic regularly, Then it wouldn't be such a problem, Your health and others health come first, But after reading about bug chasers makes me wonder why anyone would be interested in such parties!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bugchasing is the practice of pursuing sexual activity with HIV-positive individuals in order to contract HIV.

giftgivers are HIV-positive individuals who comply with the bugchaser's efforts to become infected with HIV.

Serious people this shit is real!! There are sites where people want to go to parties to infect people with out them knowing.

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over a year ago

"If you use that as a yardstick then surely you should also avoid bi-men and any person who recieves or gives anal sex as that is more risky than any other form of sex.

The only thing we can do is educate ourselves about the real risks involved with all forms of sex and make a decision about who we play with based on that.

In other words look after ourselves and leave others to look after themselves."

I avoid Bi contact and I only use condoms. As for educating people of the risks, it seems that people that do bareback 'know' the possible consequences of their actions but don't care. Their sexual satisfaction overrides the risk of catching/passing on a STI and those kinds of people will never change (until they inevitably catch something)

Lastly you have to take into account the Wives/Girlfriends of the many Men that go out and bareback on the sly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" But after reading about bug chasers makes me wonder why anyone would be interested in such parties!!"

Basically they are cock addicts who have decided that they love being slutty more than they love being HIV free. So they decide that it's better to do away with the worry and catch it in order to start treatment immediately, rather than make a thousand trips to the clinic / have a delayed detection. It sort of makes sense if sex is that important to you...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only done it with long time partners like my profile pic

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