FabSwingers.com forum: preference or racism

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I certainly don't think preference is racism. Personally I prefer Caucasians but don't rule out other races.

However, I cannot think this is anything but racist: Whites only and only those who fuck whites.

To be honest I'm glad it rules me out.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Skin colour isn't one of my criteria for selection. I'm happy to say.

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By *llebWoman
over a year ago

Poulton Le Fylde

Everyone is allowed a preference, however due to the political world we live in, for you to specify that you only wanted to meet white or Caucasian would be seen as racist unfortunately.

However I have seen a few black guys state their preference for black girls but we don't rise and shout 'To the Tower with that man/woman.

Get used to it.....you have no rights ......just bow to the powers that be and be a good little person

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By *halMan
over a year ago

North West

Each to there own....

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By *imply_SensualMan
over a year ago

warrington

I think it is preference, its just some people are better at articulating their preferences.

You could have a similar debate about sexism for couples who only want to meet women....

There will be racists on here because they are in all walks of life, but generally, given the nature of the site, i just read them as preferences

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By *llebWoman
over a year ago

Poulton Le Fylde

My preference

Someone who could be a body double for the guy in Magic Mike, sorry my aging demtentia allows me to forget what he's called.

Good cook... And no I don't have a speech impediment as well as Dementia

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As long as they are human and there is an attraction the colour of their skin or hair isn't a problem for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's preferences all day long. Only time it's called racism, are by those who have the hump by being turn away from something they can't have. It's not racist by having preferences by what goes into our own bodies. On a different note...I have a black work mate (male) who never had and by his own admission never would date a black woman. Does that make him racist? I believe not. It's just his preferred way to date. Who are we to judge who can date who??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I did have a preference and it offended anyone, tough really, what I or you or anyone does in their private life is up to the individual. If someone doesn't agree with your choice because it offends them, are you really going to lose sleep over it? I see a fair few profiles saying BBC only and they get very upset when white guys contact them, funny though, no one thinks that's racist, it's only when you say you prefer white people that you get called racist. Don't lose any sleep over it, really not worth it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't have a preference with regard to ethnicity but I also don't think it's racist if someone does, it's a different world for everyone so live & let live I say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My preference

Someone who could be a body double for the guy in Magic Mike, sorry my aging demtentia allows me to forget what he's called.

Good cook... And no I don't have a speech impediment as well as Dementia

You mean Channing Tattham? (if that's how you spell his name)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A beautiful woman remains a beautiful woman whatever the colour of her skin. Well the way I see it, and if I find her attractive I don't see why her skin colour would be a problem.

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By *ancyDrewWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

Ive been messaged by an Indian guy saying he understands if am not interested in him just because of that. I found this deeply sad. Yeah, we all have preferences, but to use that as an opener was so disheartening?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I certainly don't think preference is racism. Personally I prefer Caucasians but don't rule out other races.

However, I cannot think this is anything but racist: Whites only and only those who fuck whites.

To be honest I'm glad it rules me out.

It does have a certain tone to it I must say. Requesting people with a certain, specific sexual history is fairly rigid. I do wonder how they'd check though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely no preference relating to race or colour here . But it's preference for some , and that's fair enough .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You could have a similar debate about sexism for couples who only want to meet women....

No it would only be similar if the couple asked for a woman who fucked women only.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

You could have a similar debate about sexism for couples who only want to meet women....

No it would only be similar if the couple asked for a woman who fucked women only."

I think the point of your original post has been missed. I agree that being that specific is beyond preference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seems people have missed or didn't read the end of the post.

I'm not sure it's racist saying they won't meet people who have been with people that aren't Caucasian. However, it makes me question why and how wouldthey know. Why? Is it bbecause of the media hype about the increased risk of catching an sti? No idea, just seems a possible answer. How would they know? Not everyone displays their verification, also some leave.

They may be a racist iindividual but no guarantee they are, I just question why to the latter part of the post

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

If you differentiate on grounds of race alone then it is racism by definition.

However it is arguable that you are entitled to be such.

That said to automatically discount everyone before you even see them seems a little hasty and foolish, however people have a right to be racist if they so choose. But you cannot dress it up as anything different, you should just have the guts and be articulate enough to stand up for your _iews, appreciate that some will find them abhorrent and be prepared to change your mind if someone says something which is intelligent/articulate enough to change your opinions.

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By *sianmale89Man
over a year ago

Stockport

"I certainly don't think preference is racism. Personally I prefer Caucasians but don't rule out other races.

However, I cannot think this is anything but racist: Whites only and only those who fuck whites.

To be honest I'm glad it rules me out.

the whites only part is their choice I don't really care about that or have anything against that.

the only part where they wrote "only those who fuck whites"

is just retarded talk about being dim witted and up their own arse..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For god sake black is black white is white. Sick of the word racist or racism.

It's going too bloody far being this supposed to be a country of free speech.

We all have our preferred person to be with. So no blacks is fine, l wouldn't be offended if some black woman said no whites!

So what get a friggin grip all you do Gooders!

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By *ransGuyTV/TS
over a year ago

Cardiff

My opinion is that it's a preference until you take that preference and apply it to the rest of your life.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"For god sake black is black white is white. Sick of the word racist or racism.

It's going too bloody far being this supposed to be a country of free speech.

We all have our preferred person to be with. So no blacks is fine, l wouldn't be offended if some black woman said no whites!

So what get a friggin grip all you do Gooders! "

You are free to be racist, just as people are free to call you a massive cunt for being racist. It is a free world.

You just st can not be offended by it, but it is still discriminating only on grounds of race, therefore racist. You just gotta be prepared to justify yourself if challenged, or ignore the challenge.

We all could do with growing a pair and accepting criticism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I certainly don't think preference is racism. Personally I prefer Caucasians but don't rule out other races.

However, I cannot think this is anything but racist: Whites only and only those who fuck whites.

To be honest I'm glad it rules me out.

It does have a certain tone to it I must say. Requesting people with a certain, specific sexual history is fairly rigid. I do wonder how they'd check though

I agree, having preferences to who they want to have sex with is one thing but to then expect those to also only sleep with a certain colour is getting beyond just a preference.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You could have a similar debate about sexism for couples who only want to meet women....

No it would only be similar if the couple asked for a woman who fucked women only.

I think the point of your original post has been missed. I agree that being that specific is beyond preference."

I totally agree.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"For god sake black is black white is white. Sick of the word racist or racism.

It's going too bloody far being this supposed to be a country of free speech.

We all have our preferred person to be with. So no blacks is fine, l wouldn't be offended if some black woman said no whites!

So what get a friggin grip all you do Gooders!

You are free to be racist, just as people are free to call you a massive cunt for being racist. It is a free world.

You just st can not be offended by it, but it is still discriminating only on grounds of race, therefore racist. You just gotta be prepared to justify yourself if challenged, or ignore the challenge.

We all could do with growing a pair and accepting criticism."
any would you need to justify who you want to sleep with?

If you don't want to sleep with a black person its preference. If you don't want to give a black person a job its racist.

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By *ransGuyTV/TS
over a year ago

Cardiff

"My opinion is that it's a preference until you take that preference and apply it to the rest of your life..."

... or other people's lives.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"For god sake black is black white is white. Sick of the word racist or racism.

It's going too bloody far being this supposed to be a country of free speech.

We all have our preferred person to be with. So no blacks is fine, l wouldn't be offended if some black woman said no whites!

So what get a friggin grip all you do Gooders! "

Try reading the entire post sunshine.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"For god sake black is black white is white. Sick of the word racist or racism.

It's going too bloody far being this supposed to be a country of free speech.

We all have our preferred person to be with. So no blacks is fine, l wouldn't be offended if some black woman said no whites!

So what get a friggin grip all you do Gooders! "

Read the entire post before you fire off.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"For god sake black is black white is white. Sick of the word racist or racism.

It's going too bloody far being this supposed to be a country of free speech.

We all have our preferred person to be with. So no blacks is fine, l wouldn't be offended if some black woman said no whites!

So what get a friggin grip all you do Gooders!

You are free to be racist, just as people are free to call you a massive cunt for being racist. It is a free world.

You just st can not be offended by it, but it is still discriminating only on grounds of race, therefore racist. You just gotta be prepared to justify yourself if challenged, or ignore the challenge.

We all could do with growing a pair and accepting criticism.any would you need to justify who you want to sleep with?

If you don't want to sleep with a black person its preference. If you don't want to give a black person a job its racist."

You don't have to justify it, but you must be prepared for people to find your opinion reprehensible and challenge you, you don't have to reply or rise but as free as you are to racially discriminate, you are also free to be criticised by others.

Simple.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you won't have sex with a person of a different race to you because you hate the race it's racism. I've come across a few racists on here,I'd rather see it on a profile than learn about it after I've invested time in that person.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

It's late, I think I've missed something in this thread

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"It's late, I think I've missed something in this thread"

I didn't understand the fucking question

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's late, I think I've missed something in this thread

I think that there are quite a few posters making assumptions that my thread is the typical preference versus racism issue. It's not!

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"It's late, I think I've missed something in this thread

I think that there are quite a few posters making assumptions that my thread is the typical preference versus racism issue. It's not!

The principle is the same, if your method of discrimination between someone you will have is based on the race of them or their sexual partners then you are being racist.

However you are free to be so, as we are free to call you a cunt for being racist.

Preference = discrimination. Sometimes it is justifiable sometimes it is less justifiable. You gotta rise or fall based on the decisions you make.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"For god sake black is black white is white. Sick of the word racist or racism.

It's going too bloody far being this supposed to be a country of free speech.

We all have our preferred person to be with. So no blacks is fine, l wouldn't be offended if some black woman said no whites!

So what get a friggin grip all you do Gooders!

Try reading the entire post sunshine."

Lee, could you not call me do gooder here again?

Is there something in the original post you do not understand? For I am quite happy to reiterate that I feel happy that a race can be a preference.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's late, I think I've missed something in this thread

I think that there are quite a few posters making assumptions that my thread is the typical preference versus racism issue. It's not!

The principle is the same, if your method of discrimination between someone you will have is based on the race of them or their sexual partners then you are being racist.

However you are free to be so, as we are free to call you a cunt for being racist.

Preference = discrimination. Sometimes it is justifiable sometimes it is less justifiable. You gotta rise or fall based on the decisions you make. "

I assume that the "you" is not aimed at me.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"It's late, I think I've missed something in this thread

I think that there are quite a few posters making assumptions that my thread is the typical preference versus racism issue. It's not!

The principle is the same, if your method of discrimination between someone you will have is based on the race of them or their sexual partners then you are being racist.

However you are free to be so, as we are free to call you a cunt for being racist.

Preference = discrimination. Sometimes it is justifiable sometimes it is less justifiable. You gotta rise or fall based on the decisions you make.

I assume that the "you" is not aimed at me.

Yes apologies my post was a general one. The "you" was not your good self, more outwardly looking at everyone generally.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We all have preferences, food we eat, clothing we wear, TV shows we like or dislike. There's nothing wrong with saying what you aren't or are looking for. Isn't that what this is all about??? We have white, black, Hispanic, gay, straight, bicurious, bisexual. I think this day in age people in general just dissect things way to thoroughly. Everything is so crazy with this world and it's very sad. We all have a heart beat and blood in our veins. I just think the world we live in is in a lot of trouble nowadays. Can't we all just get along!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are preferences for everyone on here.

Women that only want black men

Black men who only want white women

Black women who only want black men or only want white men

White men who only want black women

Couples who only want straight men but only want bi women

Couples who only want bi couples

The list goes on and on..

Luckily a person's sexual preferences cannot be construed as racist, sexist is or anything else

Just because for example I didn't find Asians attractive does it make me racist No it's a preference and everyone has a right to their preference. Sadly some do not word it very well but their lack vocabulary does not qualify as racist.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

But is it also wrong to accuse them of being racist? Isn't that bullying?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are preferences for everyone on here.

Women that only want black men

Black men who only want white women

Black women who only want black men or only want white men

White men who only want black women

Couples who only want straight men but only want bi women

Couples who only want bi couples

The list goes on and on..

Luckily a person's sexual preferences cannot be construed as racist, sexist is or anything else

But would you then say you wouldn't have sex with anyone who had had sex with an Asian for example as that was what the opening post meant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's late, I think I've missed something in this thread

I think that there are quite a few posters making assumptions that my thread is the typical preference versus racism issue. It's not!

The principle is the same, if your method of discrimination between someone you will have is based on the race of them or their sexual partners then you are being racist.

However you are free to be so, as we are free to call you a cunt for being racist.

Preference = discrimination. Sometimes it is justifiable sometimes it is less justifiable. You gotta rise or fall based on the decisions you make. "

Damn there is a lot of racist white women on here then... The amount of accounts on here that say "bbc only"

You would think fab would clamp down on this blatant discrimination.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"But is it also wrong to accuse them of being racist? Isn't that bullying?

Not if it's true.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"There are preferences for everyone on here.

Women that only want black men

Black men who only want white women

Black women who only want black men or only want white men

White men who only want black women

Couples who only want straight men but only want bi women

Couples who only want bi couples

The list goes on and on..

Luckily a person's sexual preferences cannot be construed as racist, sexist is or anything else

But would you then say you wouldn't have sex with anyone who had had sex with an Asian for example as that was what the opening post meant."

It might be stretching it a bit, how far back are they hoping to go.....

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

The site reflects life, on the whole it may be preference.

but I no longer kid myself that there won't be racists, homophobes etc.

By signing up to swinging, doesn't wipe out ignorance.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"But is it also wrong to accuse them of being racist? Isn't that bullying?

Not if it's true."

And if it isn't?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"There are preferences for everyone on here.

Women that only want black men

Black men who only want white women

Black women who only want black men or only want white men

White men who only want black women

Couples who only want straight men but only want bi women

Couples who only want bi couples

The list goes on and on..

Luckily a person's sexual preferences cannot be construed as racist, sexist is or anything else

Yes everyone has the right to their preference. However, even if their demand that their preferences have the same preferences (whites only) doesn't make them racist, it sure is decreasing the size of the pool of potential meets

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Personally I think it is preference only.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"There are preferences for everyone on here.

Women that only want black men

Black men who only want white women

Black women who only want black men or only want white men

White men who only want black women

Couples who only want straight men but only want bi women

Couples who only want bi couples

The list goes on and on..

Luckily a person's sexual preferences cannot be construed as racist, sexist is or anything else

There will be no-one left to meet if they are too specific

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is no need to state it, cos it makes a profile sound aggressive. Plus it was ruled out in the 60s in Alabama, so why allow it online?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"There is no need to state it, cos it makes a profile sound aggressive. Plus it was ruled out in the 60s in Alabama, so why allow it online?"

what was ruled out?

Also, something that was illegal in one state doesn't make it illegal in another, let alone another country, or the internet.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"Also, something that was illegal in one state doesn't make it illegal in another, let alone another country, or the internet."

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"It's late, I think I've missed something in this thread

I think that there are quite a few posters making assumptions that my thread is the typical preference versus racism issue. It's not!

The principle is the same, if your method of discrimination between someone you will have is based on the race of them or their sexual partners then you are being racist.

However you are free to be so, as we are free to call you a cunt for being racist.

Preference = discrimination. Sometimes it is justifiable sometimes it is less justifiable. You gotta rise or fall based on the decisions you make.

Damn there is a lot of racist white women on here then... The amount of accounts on here that say "bbc only"

You would think fab would clamp down on this blatant discrimination.

This is proof that not all racism is socially unacceptable. But it is still racism. It is discrimination solely on bounds of race. That is racism.

But we have this idiotic inability to see shades of grey. Racism = wrong.

In my opinion I have yet to find a racism which I do not think is wrong, but not everyone shares that _iew.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is no need to state it, cos it makes a profile sound aggressive. Plus it was ruled out in the 60s in Alabama, so why allow it online?

what was ruled out?

Also, something that was illegal in one state doesn't make it illegal in another, let alone another country, or the internet."
Yes like white one way and they cant use same toilet or train, but yeah as the law is different in different countries, would make it hard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't allow anyone to dictate who I had sex with or be prepared to justify my choices in partners. My body, my rules!!!

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester

"Everyone is allowed a preference, however due to the political world we live in, for you to specify that you only wanted to meet white or Caucasian would be seen as racist unfortunately.

However I have seen a few black guys state their preference for black girls but we don't rise and shout 'To the Tower with that man/woman.

Get used to it.....you have no rights ......just bow to the powers that be and be a good little person"

You do know non white people can be racist too, right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everyone is allowed a preference, however due to the political world we live in, for you to specify that you only wanted to meet white or Caucasian would be seen as racist unfortunately.

However I have seen a few black guys state their preference for black girls but we don't rise and shout 'To the Tower with that man/woman.

Get used to it.....you have no rights ......just bow to the powers that be and be a good little person

You do know non white people can be racist too, right?"

Without doubt every race on this planet has racist but I do feel the conversation of racism is far to easily jumped upon.

I think generally people jump on others and scream racism far too readily. As swingers we are all classed as morally bankrupt, perverts and without a shred of decency by some people and I thought the scene would be far more accepting of other people's choices but the more time I spend on the forums the more I realise how narrow minded some people really can be. I have seen men get slaughtered for playing behind their wives backs and women almost applauded for doing the same.

People digging at others because they choose to bareback ( not my kind of thing but that's up to them) but these same people with photos of oral play and not a condom in sight. For such a liberal minded bunch we seem only to be liberal when it comes to our choices.

Also I have seen some ladies profiles specifically looking for BBC but not Asian men, are they racist?

It is nothing more than personal preference. Just because you don't want to meet my wife because she is married to a bi guy don't make you homophobic, it means you have made a choice not to sleep with ladies who like bi men. Same thing nothing more

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Everyone is allowed a preference, however due to the political world we live in, for you to specify that you only wanted to meet white or Caucasian would be seen as racist unfortunately.

However I have seen a few black guys state their preference for black girls but we don't rise and shout 'To the Tower with that man/woman.

Get used to it.....you have no rights ......just bow to the powers that be and be a good little person

You do know non white people can be racist too, right?

Without doubt every race on this planet has racist but I do feel the conversation of racism is far to easily jumped upon.

Also I have seen some ladies profiles specifically looking for BBC but not Asian men, are they racist?

Actually that may be more to do with risk aversion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would doubt I would pose a higher risk than anyone else on the site in fact considerably less than most in reality I should think. Not that it has any relevance to this conversation.

The point still stands that people have preferences and some may be due race and others are just an attraction thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If I did have a preference and it offended anyone, tough really, what I or you or anyone does in their private life is up to the individual. If someone doesn't agree with your choice because it offends them, are you really going to lose sleep over it? I see a fair few profiles saying BBC only and they get very upset when white guys contact them, funny though, no one thinks that's racist, it's only when you say you prefer white people that you get called racist. Don't lose any sleep over it, really not worth it."

If people are rude that's cool. Like attracts like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bottom line is anyone who puts a discriminatory remark on their profile is discriminating don't put it then you can relax, do and you are asking for criticism

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everyone is allowed a preference, however due to the political world we live in, for you to specify that you only wanted to meet white or Caucasian would be seen as racist unfortunately.

However I have seen a few black guys state their preference for black girls but we don't rise and shout 'To the Tower with that man/woman.

Get used to it.....you have no rights ......just bow to the powers that be and be a good little person"

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over a year ago

"Everyone is allowed a preference, however due to the political world we live in, for you to specify that you only wanted to meet white or Caucasian would be seen as racist unfortunately.

However I have seen a few black guys state their preference for black girls but we don't rise and shout 'To the Tower with that man/woman.

Get used to it.....you have no rights ......just bow to the powers that be and be a good little person

You do know non white people can be racist too, right?

Without doubt every race on this planet has racist but I do feel the conversation of racism is far to easily jumped upon.

Also I have seen some ladies profiles specifically looking for BBC but not Asian men, are they racist?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wouldn't allow anyone to dictate who I had sex with or be prepared to justify my choices in partners. My body, my rules!!!"

This!!

It doesn't matter if the people discussed in the OP are racist or not.

It doesn't matter if they trawl through veri's checking sexual histories.

It doesn't matter that you can't possibly know a person's full sexual history from details on one website.

It is their choice who they do and don't fuck.

It is up to them how they make those choices.

It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. They don't have to discuss or justify their choices with anyone else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wouldn't allow anyone to dictate who I had sex with or be prepared to justify my choices in partners. My body, my rules!!!

This!!

It doesn't matter if the people discussed in the OP are racist or not.

It doesn't matter if they trawl through veri's checking sexual histories.

It doesn't matter that you can't possibly know a person's full sexual history from details on one website.

It is their choice who they do and don't fuck.

It is up to them how they make those choices.

It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. They don't have to discuss or justify their choices with anyone else."

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By *acavityMan
over a year ago

Redditch

"I certainly don't think preference is racism. Personally I prefer Caucasians but don't rule out other races.

However, I cannot think this is anything but racist: Whites only and only those who fuck whites.

To be honest I'm glad it rules me out.

Haven't come across that nasty twist at the end.

No problem with stating your preference.

But saying that you won't meet someone who has met someone you wouldn't previously is a bit weird.

It's either to do with perceived risk, e.g. straight women who won't meet bi Guys (leading to the hundreds of threads about men claiming to be straight).

Or is it that they worry about not measuring up, with all the posts about BBC, 'once you go black... ' etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find that wierd

I have been turned down a few times because I'm not English I can honestly say that does not bother me at all

However if I though somebody had been turned down because they had met me that would bother me

I find it quite odd that people would turn down a potential meet because of their past meets

Very strange behaviour indeed

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

It is preference, how can it be racist if a certain type of individual doesn't float your boat.

Next we will have a sexist remark made by the women who are only seeking sex with other women.

Or heightist comment made by people who are out of the preferred height range of someone, really it is all down to personal choice.

I don't have a go at someone I fancy meeting with, just because they don't want to have sex with a blokes who dresses as a woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I find that wierd

I have been turned down a few times because I'm not English I can honestly say that does not bother me at all

However if I though somebody had been turned down because they had met me that would bother me

I find it quite odd that people would turn down a potential meet because of their past meets

Very strange behaviour indeed "

I'm intrigued now, what nationality are you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are preferences for everyone on here.

Women that only want black men

Black men who only want white women

Black women who only want black men or only want white men

White men who only want black women

Couples who only want straight men but only want bi women

Couples who only want bi couples

The list goes on and on..

Luckily a person's sexual preferences cannot be construed as racist, sexist is or anything else

But would you then say you wouldn't have sex with anyone who had had sex with an Asian for example as that was what the opening post meant."

I've had men say that to me,and if I'd had sex with a black man. Shame he didn't mention it before we had sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think it's so much a racist, but more cultural thing - or in this case, a lack thereof.

To clarify that, what I mean is that, as a bisexual male, I've yet to find Asian males attractive, simply because so many of the ones I've met over the years (just in general, not swinging) have been these wannabe gangsta types doing the whole 'innit blud, innit?' thing which frankly just makes them sound fucking stupid, though having said that I don't find white guys who act that way remotely attractive either, so as I say, it's not so much a racial thing as a preference based on experience, if I came across an Asian guy who was handsome, intelligent and subtle, I might just feel differently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wouldn't allow anyone to dictate who I had sex with or be prepared to justify my choices in partners. My body, my rules!!!

This!!

It doesn't matter if the people discussed in the OP are racist or not.

It doesn't matter if they trawl through veri's checking sexual histories.

It doesn't matter that you can't possibly know a person's full sexual history from details on one website.

It is their choice who they do and don't fuck.

It is up to them how they make those choices.

It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. They don't have to discuss or justify their choices with anyone else."

Your quite right it's all about preference & choice..

But I think the way some members convey there preference with the printed word leads others to think they may be racist!!!!

We've all read profiles that are so rude to one group of ppl that you think do I really want to meet them even though I'm in there demographic .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I find that wierd

I have been turned down a few times because I'm not English I can honestly say that does not bother me at all

However if I though somebody had been turned down because they had met me that would bother me

I find it quite odd that people would turn down a potential meet because of their past meets

Very strange behaviour indeed

I'm intrigued now, what nationality are you?"

Sicillian, I was born in Sicily but we moved to the UK when I was three so I've lived here pretty much all my life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't care if politically incorrect! You choose your friends and who you would like to fuck with. I see many women specify black man but I myself prefer the small feminine Asian, Chinese, thai, Indian to the big boobed lardy bolshy British types!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are both most certainly not racist, we have friends from multiple ethnicities' however we are both only attracted to and play with white people. It's most certainly a preference thing. I (mr)see it no differently to the mrs not liking muscly men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't care if politically incorrect! You choose your friends and who you would like to fuck with. I see many women specify black man but I myself prefer the small feminine Asian, Chinese, thai, Indian to the big boobed lardy bolshy British types!"

Not that is a bit of a sweeping generalisation

So all British women are big boobed lardy and bolshy?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I certainly don't think preference is racism. Personally I prefer Caucasians but don't rule out other races.

However, I cannot think this is anything but racist: Whites only and only those who fuck whites.

To be honest I'm glad it rules me out.

"Only those who fuck whites" takes it beyond preference into racism in my _iew. There's nothing wrong with wanting to meet people who look a certain way, but that's like me saying I only want to meet tall men who only meet women who only meet tall men. If they've slept with anyone who's ever fucked a short arse, I'm out.

It's ludicrous, so there must be a more sinister motivation behind it.

I don't think people who say they are only attracted to white people are necessarily racist but dig a bit deeper and they often do a good job of convincing me they probably are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not that is a bit of a sweeping generalisation

So all British women are big boobed lardy and bolshy?

Most on here seem to be. Well up in Yorkshire anyway!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not that is a bit of a sweeping generalisation

So all British women are big boobed lardy and bolshy?

Didn't you get the memo? And all Asian women are quiet, timid and subservient.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I find that wierd

I have been turned down a few times because I'm not English I can honestly say that does not bother me at all

However if I though somebody had been turned down because they had met me that would bother me

I find it quite odd that people would turn down a potential meet because of their past meets

Very strange behaviour indeed

I'm intrigued now, what nationality are you?

Sicillian, I was born in Sicily but we moved to the UK when I was three so I've lived here pretty much all my life "

Oh cool, I never knew that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I certainly don't think preference is racism. Personally I prefer Caucasians but don't rule out other races.

However, I cannot think this is anything but racist: Whites only and only those who fuck whites.

To be honest I'm glad it rules me out.

That sounds a bit ott we only meet white guys and girls as thats our physical attraction preference but would never rule out somebody because they meet other races

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By *sianmale89Man
over a year ago

Stockport

Think SOME people Not all have gone seriously off track in this thread, The OP does not care if people only want to meet people of a certain race.. Think the only part she dislikes is the fact that when they try to dictate or question what others they want to meet as to who they have previously sexually met who are not white.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bit like people who wont meet bisexual guys or anyone who has met bisexual men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I certainly don't think preference is racism. Personally I prefer Caucasians but don't rule out other races.

However, I cannot think this is anything but racist: Whites only and only those who fuck whites.

To be honest I'm glad it rules me out.

I would agree that those who only meet those who only meet a certain ethnicity would appear to do so for racist reasons. But i don't know their reasoning behind it so Wouldn't like to say for sure. Would be interested to hear if they had a non racist reason for it though.

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By *sianmale89Man
over a year ago

Stockport

"Bit like people who wont meet bisexual guys or anyone who has met bisexual men."
or if you have a ts/TV in you're friends list then not to contact them? Pfffft haha how petty little do they know it could just be some one you have normal conversations with it's not like everyone off you're friends list you're going to just fuck or already fucked now is it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bit like people who wont meet bisexual guys or anyone who has met bisexual men. or if you have a ts/TV in you're friends list then not to contact them? Pfffft haha how petty little do they know it could just be some one you have normal conversations with it's not like everyone off you're friends list you're going to just fuck or already fucked now is it?"

Well we only add people we want to meet for sex after all this aint facebook but each to their own

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago

I'm sure the average mind knows what real racism is in contrast to sexual preference. No doubt the pc lobby and rush to be a victim brigade will choose to confuse the two

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm sure the average mind knows what real racism is in contrast to sexual preference. No doubt the pc lobby and rush to be a victim brigade will choose to confuse the two

Yes but that wasn't the question in the op. What about those that will only meet people who have only fucked white people? Surely they can't claim that is simply down to preference?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I certainly don't think preference is racism. Personally I prefer Caucasians but don't rule out other races.

However, I cannot think this is anything but racist: Whites only and only those who fuck whites.

To be honest I'm glad it rules me out.

You're correct, this is racist.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"Everyone is allowed a preference, however due to the political world we live in, for you to specify that you only wanted to meet white or Caucasian would be seen as racist unfortunately.

However I have seen a few black guys state their preference for black girls but we don't rise and shout 'To the Tower with that man/woman.

Get used to it.....you have no rights ......just bow to the powers that be and be a good little person"

I have seen whites only. On a sex site: I see that as personal preference. If I saw that on the door of Tesco, I'd say racist.

You'd probably think preference too, so I'll be a good little black/ethnic minority/person of colour and say nothing.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

Your argument doesn't stand as it's WHITE people seeking BBC (God I hate that term), so how can it be racist?!!

It's like calling me racist for being black with a white partner and not dating blacks.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I certainly don't think preference is racism. Personally I prefer Caucasians but don't rule out other races.

However, I cannot think this is anything but racist: Whites only and only those who fuck whites.

To be honest I'm glad it rules me out.

It's ludicrous, so there must be a more sinister motivation behind it.

I don't think people who say they are only attracted to white people are necessarily racist but dig a bit deeper and they often do a good job of convincing me they probably are. "

I'm glad the odd poster is actually getting the point of the thread. Thank you

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"I certainly don't think preference is racism. Personally I prefer Caucasians but don't rule out other races.

However, I cannot think this is anything but racist: Whites only and only those who fuck whites.

To be honest I'm glad it rules me out.

the whites only part is their choice I don't really care about that or have anything against that.

the only part where they wrote "only those who fuck whites"

is just retarded talk about being dim witted and up their own arse.."

There was a couple on here who only dated whites and went through verifications and blocked anyone who'd met blacks. They followed the verification trail and blocked anyone and everyone who had met a black person.

One of the most ridiculous things I've read on here: how and when they had time to meet I'll never know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your argument doesn't stand as it's WHITE people seeking BBC (God I hate that term), so how can it be racist?!!

It's like calling me racist for being black with a white partner and not dating blacks.

I didn't know that only white people can be racist.

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By *idsmixedcplCouple
over a year ago

West Midlands

"I certainly don't think preference is racism. Personally I prefer Caucasians but don't rule out other races.

However, I cannot think this is anything but racist: Whites only and only those who fuck whites.

To be honest I'm glad it rules me out.

That second part is 100% racist in my eyes tbh

You're correct, this is racist."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I certainly don't think preference is racism. Personally I prefer Caucasians but don't rule out other races.

However, I cannot think this is anything but racist: Whites only and only those who fuck whites.

To be honest I'm glad it rules me out.

It's ludicrous, so there must be a more sinister motivation behind it.

I don't think people who say they are only attracted to white people are necessarily racist but dig a bit deeper and they often do a good job of convincing me they probably are.

I'm glad the odd poster is actually getting the point of the thread. Thank you

There are often a lot of people who become instantly defensive at the mere mention of white only preferences being dubious (even though that's not what the thread was about) so I think people read the first line and sprang into "it's just a preference!" mode.

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

another of these threads for people to be called racist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"another of these threads for people to be called racist "

What possible reason could someone have for not wanting to meet people who have ever met non-White people? Preference my arse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A good example of a thread where most have not read the opening post and have jumped to the completely wrong conclusion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A good example of a thread where most have not read the opening post and have jumped to the completely wrong conclusion

Methinks they protest too much...

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

"another of these threads for people to be called racist

What possible reason could someone have for not wanting to meet people who have ever met non-White people? Preference my arse."
check my photo,s thats 9 inch of black cock in my mouth rubywhoo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"another of these threads for people to be called racist

What possible reason could someone have for not wanting to meet people who have ever met non-White people? Preference my arse."

It is a bit silly

Stating your own personal preference is one thing, to say I'm not attracted to black/white/Asian people is fine, but to say I'm not meeting you because you met a black/white/Asian person is not a sexual preference it goes beyond that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"another of these threads for people to be called racist

What possible reason could someone have for not wanting to meet people who have ever met non-White people? Preference my arse. check my photo,s thats 9 inch of black cock in my mouth rubywhoo"

I wasn't saying you're racist, I was saying people who will only meet people who meet white people are racist.

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

"another of these threads for people to be called racist

What possible reason could someone have for not wanting to meet people who have ever met non-White people? Preference my arse. check my photo,s thats 9 inch of black cock in my mouth rubywhoo

I wasn't saying you're racist, I was saying people who will only meet people who meet white people are racist. "
these sort of threads should be stopped right away

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

The OP is fairy short, but the sheer number who haven't read it to the end before posting makes my mind boggle....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"another of these threads for people to be called racist

What possible reason could someone have for not wanting to meet people who have ever met non-White people? Preference my arse. check my photo,s thats 9 inch of black cock in my mouth rubywhoo

I wasn't saying you're racist, I was saying people who will only meet people who meet white people are racist. these sort of threads should be stopped right away "

Why?

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

"another of these threads for people to be called racist

What possible reason could someone have for not wanting to meet people who have ever met non-White people? Preference my arse. check my photo,s thats 9 inch of black cock in my mouth rubywhoo

I wasn't saying you're racist, I was saying people who will only meet people who meet white people are racist. these sort of threads should be stopped right away

Why?"
they just cause bad feelings

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anything on anyone's profile is there profile and there preferences. Plenty of profiles with black only or white only. Then again same with builds slim or bbw. It's just what there looking for. Not racism or hatered to certain body types.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"another of these threads for people to be called racist

What possible reason could someone have for not wanting to meet people who have ever met non-White people? Preference my arse. check my photo,s thats 9 inch of black cock in my mouth rubywhoo

I wasn't saying you're racist, I was saying people who will only meet people who meet white people are racist. these sort of threads should be stopped right away

Why?

they just cause bad feelings "

But I wouldn't want to meet somebody with that mindset so I'd rather they were allowed to talk about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The OP is fairy short, but the sheer number who haven't read it to the end before posting makes my mind boggle....

And still they keep on coming...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"another of these threads for people to be called racist

What possible reason could someone have for not wanting to meet people who have ever met non-White people? Preference my arse. check my photo,s thats 9 inch of black cock in my mouth rubywhoo

I wasn't saying you're racist, I was saying people who will only meet people who meet white people are racist. these sort of threads should be stopped right away

Why?they just cause bad feelings "

No they don't. People not reading properly and jumping on their high horses and who get offended on behalf of others are the problem. I have yet to see anyone commenting on the Thread that the op was directed at ie white people who Will only meet white people who have only met white people. When they can provide a reason for that particular preference that isn't racist then I'll reconsider my stance.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"another of these threads for people to be called racist

What possible reason could someone have for not wanting to meet people who have ever met non-White people? Preference my arse. check my photo,s thats 9 inch of black cock in my mouth rubywhoo

I wasn't saying you're racist, I was saying people who will only meet people who meet white people are racist. these sort of threads should be stopped right away

Why?they just cause bad feelings "

only when they don't read properly!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a personal preference nothing racist about it at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's a personal preference nothing racist about it at all. "

What is a personal preference and isn't racist?

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"I certainly don't think preference is racism. Personally I prefer Caucasians but don't rule out other races.

However, I cannot think this is anything but racist: Whites only and only those who fuck whites.

To be honest I'm glad it rules me out.

I think its racist because it adds only those who fuck whites ... but I feel the same way about profiles which say they avoid anyone who plays with TVs ... its just rude to say it. We have avoided parties when we find out people who openly say they only play with whites go there. I wouldn't want to spoil their atmosphere by being there ....

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Do I give two hoots

Let me think

I will only have sex with black or white people; not ALL black or white people but with the ones I find attractive

Do I find other races attractive? Generally not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

when one is sexually free, RACE doesnt matter.....

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

One when one is really sexually free, then nothing matters; sex with a telegraph pole with a hole will do too

I guess not everyone is that sexually free

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do I give two hoots

Let me think

I will only have sex with black or white people; not ALL black or white people but with the ones I find attractive

Do I find other races attractive? Generally not"

But as per the OP, do you care what races the people you meet choose to meet?

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Do I give two hoots

Let me think

I will only have sex with black or white people; not ALL black or white people but with the ones I find attractive

Do I find other races attractive? Generally not"

That wasn't the question though, was it?

*headdesk*

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Do I give two hoots

Let me think

I will only have sex with black or white people; not ALL black or white people but with the ones I find attractive

Do I find other races attractive? Generally not

But as per the OP, do you care what races the people you meet choose to meet?"

Not at all; who my sexual partners meet is their preference and their business and has no effect on my 'encounters' with them

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"Stating your own personal preference is one thing, to say I'm not attracted to black/white/Asian people is fine, but to say I'm not meeting you because you met a black/white/Asian person is not a sexual preference it goes beyond that "

This is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do I give two hoots

Let me think

I will only have sex with black or white people; not ALL black or white people but with the ones I find attractive

Do I find other races attractive? Generally not

But as per the OP, do you care what races the people you meet choose to meet?"

Give it up. No one is taking any notice of the op question.. .think we should each just make up a question and answer that. Then everyone else has to guess what the question was

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"another of these threads for people to be called racist

What possible reason could someone have for not wanting to meet people who have ever met non-White people? Preference my arse. check my photo,s thats 9 inch of black cock in my mouth rubywhoo

I wasn't saying you're racist, I was saying people who will only meet people who meet white people are racist. these sort of threads should be stopped right away

Why?they just cause bad feelings "

I think its easy to say they should be stopped when the issue doesn't affect you. I think these things should be discussed ... have an opinion, justify it, without descending into insults ... its always a good thing on the forums, and certainly a way to get to know what people think ...

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Do I give two hoots

Let me think

I will only have sex with black or white people; not ALL black or white people but with the ones I find attractive

Do I find other races attractive? Generally not

But as per the OP, do you care what races the people you meet choose to meet?

Give it up. No one is taking any notice of the op question.. .think we should each just make up a question and answer that. Then everyone else has to guess what the question was

I guess I am guilty of that too; I should have read carefully before plunging in

To the OP's question; no, I am not concerned with who the people I meet, meet up with

Infact most people I meet, have a wider preference and choice than myself, which is just fine with me

And just for the record, my preference does not extend to socialising; I socialise with anyone who will socialise with me; my preference is limited to sex only

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By *aughty2foryouCouple
over a year ago

Devon/Cornwall

We've always just gone with people we find physically and mentally (personality not craziness) attractive. If they happen to be white, black, yellow, green, blue or whatever then so be it!

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"My opinion is that it's a preference until you take that preference and apply it to the rest of your life."

Excellent answer!

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By *anSusieCouple
over a year ago

Midlothian

The first time I came across a profile(they winked us) stating:wont meet those who played with black guys,I made this face

...than I thought:Right, best make sure we put a picture up, showing clearly!! that we wont be for them

Safes those with that rule!! + us time,no msg exchange needed

(susie)

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"My opinion is that it's a preference until you take that preference and apply it to the rest of your life.

Excellent answer! "

What if you preferred to go into shops which only had white people working in them or whose customers were all white? That is a preference but also racist. Preferences can be racist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everyone is allowed a preference, however due to the political world we live in, for you to specify that you only wanted to meet white or Caucasian would be seen as racist unfortunately.

However I have seen a few black guys state their preference for black girls but we don't rise and shout 'To the Tower with that man/woman.

Get used to it.....you have no rights ......just bow to the powers that be and be a good little person

You do know non white people can be racist too, right?

Without doubt every race on this planet has racist but I do feel the conversation of racism is far to easily jumped upon.

Also I have seen some ladies profiles specifically looking for BBC but not Asian men, are they racist?

Actually that may be more to do with risk aversion."

Could their preference not be the same as according to national statistics next to gay/bi sexual men (44%)

African men/women have the next highest HIV rate in the uk (34%)

Caribbean men/women are next on the list (with 3%, even though they are only 1% of the population)

Maybe this is their reason for not wanting to sleep with people who have slept with black people...

As you pointed out risk avoidence

Not saying this is the case but it's just the same as people not wanting to meet people who have met bi couples.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Everyone is allowed a preference, however due to the political world we live in, for you to specify that you only wanted to meet white or Caucasian would be seen as racist unfortunately.

However I have seen a few black guys state their preference for black girls but we don't rise and shout 'To the Tower with that man/woman.

Get used to it.....you have no rights ......just bow to the powers that be and be a good little person

You do know non white people can be racist too, right?

Without doubt every race on this planet has racist but I do feel the conversation of racism is far to easily jumped upon.

Also I have seen some ladies profiles specifically looking for BBC but not Asian men, are they racist?

Actually that may be more to do with risk aversion.

Could their preference not be the same as according to national statistics next to gay/bi sexual men (44%)

African men/women have the next highest HIV rate in the uk (34%)

Caribbean men/women are next on the list (with 3%, even though they are only 1% of the population)

Maybe this is their reason for not wanting to sleep with people who have slept with black people...

As you pointed out risk avoidence

Not saying this is the case but it's just the same as people not wanting to meet people who have met bi couples."

Please source your evidence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

http://www.nat.org.uk/HIV-in-the-UK/Most-affected-by-HIV.aspx

Happily.

I will point out before the backlash begins I am happy to meet people of other races I was just trying to think of reasons others are not.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"http://www.nat.org.uk/HIV-in-the-UK/Most-affected-by-HIV.aspx

Happily.

I will point out before the backlash begins I am happy to meet people of other races I was just trying to think of reasons others are not."

Thanks.

Stats never tell the full story on their own though. What would be interesting is whether these stats represent the minorities born here or elsewhere, and how they got HIV.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Uncomfortable reading.....but i bet that's still not the reason...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree totally but then in answer to the original question, you would have to message the black person they met and ask if he was born in DR Congo or Brixton for example and ask to see his HIV test results..

A little much to ask a random guy who you have never spoken to and are never going to meet because he is black and you don't meet black people.

Maybe just easier to pass on meeting the couple you were looking at meeting.

Now I have finished playing devils advocate on this one just because as soon as the subject of not sleeping with black people comes up its always the first thing out of the hat is they must be racist.

My personal opinion is that it is racism but it may in some cases just be risk management.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

No chance for us though, if we trust the statistics .... black and bi, oh dear! But not sure where we fit in, statistically speaking. .... as the categories are indeed deceptive. With mixed race children, I always tick the 'other' box for them, as I do for myself, being white, but not white British ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't forget it's not "not sleeping with black people" it's "not sleeping with anyone that had slept with a black person"...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't forget it's not "not sleeping with black people" it's "not sleeping with anyone that had slept with a black person"..."

Which is what I said, you would not go through someone's verifications to check that a guy they had met a year before was not from Africa but was actually from Brixton and ask to see his latest test results, it would be easier just to give the couple a miss.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't forget it's not "not sleeping with black people" it's "not sleeping with anyone that had slept with a black person"...

Crikey if your that paranoid then best to just pack up having sex, what if you met somebody that had has sex with somebody from Africa but they wasn't from off here so not on their verifications list or even worse you met a white person who had been to Africa themselves and had a shag

imagine that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didn't say I agreed with it or thought it rational but it is exactly the same reason frequently given by people who will not meet couples with a bi male, so therefore cannot be ruled out as a reason for people's preference rather than automatically saying they are racist.

When people use the same excuse for not meeting with people that have met bi couples the forum don't suddenly start screaming homophobic to them do they but because a couple will not meet a couple that have met black people automatically they are racist. That was my point. Certainly not saying it's not that they are racist, just saying that is a possible reason for their preference.

Also just found 2015 figures for hiv in this country from the government's own statistics to cross check if anyone wishes to.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hiv-in-the-united-kingdom

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are plenty of profiles on here where they don't want white guys and plenty that don't want black guys and probably in equal number, ones that don't want Asian guys.

I don't think that most of those people are racists.

I've communicated with lots of people on fab and only ever found one racist. After chatting to her for some time she went cold when she found out that I had sex with black and Asian women. She said she couldn't sleep with anyone who had done that.

Now, that is undeniably racist and it did take me by surprise. But, that was her preference. So, I just moved on.

While her point of _iew may have repulsed me, I believe that she has the right to think what she likes. In time, she could have her mind changed and re evaluated her prejudices. It is possible. Until then, I'll just steer clear and except that, as crazy as it seems, not everybody wants to have sex with me.

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By *lackMetalMan
over a year ago

Centre

"Everyone is allowed a preference, however due to the political world we live in, for you to specify that you only wanted to meet white or Caucasian would be seen as racist unfortunately.

However I have seen a few black guys state their preference for black girls but we don't rise and shout 'To the Tower with that man/woman.

Get used to it.....you have no rights ......just bow to the powers that be and be a good little person

You do know non white people can be racist too, right?

Without doubt every race on this planet has racist but I do feel the conversation of racism is far to easily jumped upon.

Also I have seen some ladies profiles specifically looking for BBC but not Asian men, are they racist?

Very well said.

The supposedly liberal bunch that call themselves swingers tend to be an accurate reflection of the society that drove them to the "liberal" haven of swinging in the first place.

Aren't people just funny sometimes, lol.

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By *lackMetalMan
over a year ago

Centre

"I don't think it's so much a racist, but more cultural thing - or in this case, a lack thereof.

Funny how with that experience, you rule out ALL Asian men but only rule out a SECTION of white men with that same experience. Do you really need to actually come across an Asian man that is different for you to actually believe that such men exist?

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By *omplex44Man
over a year ago

Cardiff/London

"It's preferences all day long. Only time it's called racism, are by those who have the hump by being turn away from something they can't have. It's not racist by having preferences by what goes into our own bodies. On a different note...I have a black work mate (male) who never had and by his own admission never would date a black woman. Does that make him racist? I believe not. It's just his preferred way to date. Who are we to judge who can date who??

Your workmate is dropping you a hit :0 :0

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By *eanontiWoman
over a year ago

Limerick

Never bothered me nationality or colour. Then I had a very very bad meet with a black American guy. Won't ever turn me off my friends but, I for now can't go there again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This thread more than any other I've read on here just goes to show how much better the forum would be if people actually read BEFORE replying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do I give two hoots

Let me think

I will only have sex with black or white people; not ALL black or white people but with the ones I find attractive

Do I find other races attractive? Generally not

But as per the OP, do you care what races the people you meet choose to meet?"

It could be a self defence mechanism. For example, if you'd been with some 10' black cock I'm not sure I'd be entirely comfortable dropping my pants in front of you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't do PC..I just know what I want and don't want.

Not wishing to offend anyone however.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do I give two hoots

Let me think

I will only have sex with black or white people; not ALL black or white people but with the ones I find attractive

Do I find other races attractive? Generally not

But as per the OP, do you care what races the people you meet choose to meet?

It could be a self defence mechanism. For example, if you'd been with some 10' black cock I'm not sure I'd be entirely comfortable dropping my pants in front of you

.... but would you feel as uncomfortable if it was a 10' white cock is the question?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do I give two hoots

Let me think

I will only have sex with black or white people; not ALL black or white people but with the ones I find attractive

Do I find other races attractive? Generally not

But as per the OP, do you care what races the people you meet choose to meet?

It could be a self defence mechanism. For example, if you'd been with some 10' black cock I'm not sure I'd be entirely comfortable dropping my pants in front of you

.... but would you feel as uncomfortable if it was a 10' white cock is the question?"

Ooof you've got me there....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This thread more than any other I've read on here just goes to show how much better the forum would be if people actually read BEFORE replying

This. So much this. Head. Desk.

I think it demonstrates people are keen to jump up and down and tell us all how racist they aren't - because that's not even what the OP is asking FFS.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This thread more than any other I've read on here just goes to show how much better the forum would be if people actually read BEFORE replying

This. So much this. Head. Desk.

I think it demonstrates people are keen to jump up and down and tell us all how racist they aren't - because that's not even what the OP is asking FFS. "

Sometimes people take longer than others to grasp the concept of the question or through dyslexia and other issues may not fully realise the question. Either way it is a little harsh to berate them for it, I am sure people whichever side of the argument try to answer as best they can.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This thread more than any other I've read on here just goes to show how much better the forum would be if people actually read BEFORE replying

This. So much this. Head. Desk.

I think it demonstrates people are keen to jump up and down and tell us all how racist they aren't - because that's not even what the OP is asking FFS. "

head. desk.

reminds me of last years christmas party

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester

"Never bothered me nationality or colour. Then I had a very very bad meet with a black American guy. Won't ever turn me off my friends but, I for now can't go there again "

If and when you have a "very very bad meet" with a white guy will you stop sexual contact with all Caucasian males too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This thread more than any other I've read on here just goes to show how much better the forum would be if people actually read BEFORE replying

This. So much this. Head. Desk.

I think it demonstrates people are keen to jump up and down and tell us all how racist they aren't - because that's not even what the OP is asking FFS.

Bollocks - people have just read what they wanted to read. I'm not sure why I even care, it's not my thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Questions have a question mark: "?"

Only the thread title looks anything like a question.

The OP isn't a question, it is just statements of the OP's opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This thread more than any other I've read on here just goes to show how much better the forum would be if people actually read BEFORE replying

Hell will freeze over before that happens....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This thread more than any other I've read on here just goes to show how much better the forum would be if people actually read BEFORE replying

This. So much this. Head. Desk.

I think it demonstrates people are keen to jump up and down and tell us all how racist they aren't - because that's not even what the OP is asking FFS.

Bollocks - people have just read what they wanted to read. I'm not sure why I even care, it's not my thread

Well here's a lady that always tries to assume the best in others and obviously very understanding of what difficulties others may suffer from. I did not assume everyone read it properly but it does not rule out that some may have problems reading it or indeed understanding the question.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This thread more than any other I've read on here just goes to show how much better the forum would be if people actually read BEFORE replying

This. So much this. Head. Desk.

I think it demonstrates people are keen to jump up and down and tell us all how racist they aren't - because that's not even what the OP is asking FFS.

Bollocks - people have just read what they wanted to read. I'm not sure why I even care, it's not my thread

I'm having difficulty understanding whether you're being sarcastic about me, or referring to yourself as that caring lady. Maybe you should be more caring towards my understanding needs.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"This thread more than any other I've read on here just goes to show how much better the forum would be if people actually read BEFORE replying

This. So much this. Head. Desk.

I think it demonstrates people are keen to jump up and down and tell us all how racist they aren't - because that's not even what the OP is asking FFS.

Bollocks - people have just read what they wanted to read. I'm not sure why I even care, it's not my thread

Like it has been stated, there wasn't a question. One has been assumed by many, simply as the title suggests. I actually had hoped for a discussion on the latter part of my statement of opinions. Fortunately some posters have recognised this.

Perhaps it would have have been better had I composed a question.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This thread more than any other I've read on here just goes to show how much better the forum would be if people actually read BEFORE replying

This. So much this. Head. Desk.

I think it demonstrates people are keen to jump up and down and tell us all how racist they aren't - because that's not even what the OP is asking FFS.

Bollocks - people have just read what they wanted to read. I'm not sure why I even care, it's not my thread

So we should approach each post with caution in case the poster has something wrong with them?

Seems a good idea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I certainly don't think preference is racism. Personally I prefer Caucasians but don't rule out other races.

However, I cannot think this is anything but racist: Whites only and only those who fuck whites.

To be honest I'm glad it rules me out.

Maybe they are not attracted to facial features of White people who play with non whites?? Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You are right and I do apologise, there was no need for the sarcasm.

As for posing a question, I think there were a mixture of those who really didn't understand the initial post, those like myself who were too lazy to read it properly at the start and some who automatically thought they needed to defend their lifestyle choices. I like the way you posed the statement and it certainly opened a debate of sorts.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"This thread more than any other I've read on here just goes to show how much better the forum would be if people actually read BEFORE replying

This. So much this. Head. Desk.

I think it demonstrates people are keen to jump up and down and tell us all how racist they aren't - because that's not even what the OP is asking FFS. "

Yes but when people do comment on the actual post all you lot who are policing the veracity of responses don't respond or neither does anyone for that matter.

If people want debate then respond to these and start a debate.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"This thread more than any other I've read on here just goes to show how much better the forum would be if people actually read BEFORE replying

This. So much this. Head. Desk.

I think it demonstrates people are keen to jump up and down and tell us all how racist they aren't - because that's not even what the OP is asking FFS.

Stupidity is far more common than the vast array of genuine mooted difficulties therefore it is statistically sounder to assume people on here are just daft as opposed to bearing a genuine malaise.

It is also common that stupid people cry dyslexia to deflect criticism and in doing so make life even harder for the genuinely afflicted.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"This thread more than any other I've read on here just goes to show how much better the forum would be if people actually read BEFORE replying

This. So much this. Head. Desk.

I think it demonstrates people are keen to jump up and down and tell us all how racist they aren't - because that's not even what the OP is asking FFS.

Stupidity is far more common than the vast array of genuine mooted difficulties therefore it is statistically sounder to assume people on here are just daft as opposed to bearing a genuine malaise.

It is also common that stupid people cry dyslexia to deflect criticism and in doing so make life even harder for the genuinely afflicted. "
well I didn't read the op correctly, it was late and I was tired so if that makes me stupid then so be it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any reference to the colour of a person's skin is a racist remark they are people you can talk about a person's look but not generalise about skin pigment the ops question involved the statement "will only go with white people who go with white people" which is wrong on so many levels

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

There are so many comments on so many threads where the OP is not read 'properly' but often this can lead to a good debate anyway. Please let's not have another set of enforcers trying to make sure posts relate to the thread word for word. People comment on what makes sense to them and how they read it ... I think it all contributes to the debate. As long as its healthy, it all adds to it ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am in no way trying to be a thread "policer" or "enforcer", it wasn't even my thread. I just thought it interesting that so many people leapt into "it's not racist, it's my preference" mode without having read it. Quite a telling level of what seemed like defensiveness in a lot of cases, in my _iew.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"I am in no way trying to be a thread "policer" or "enforcer", it wasn't even my thread. I just thought it interesting that so many people leapt into "it's not racist, it's my preference" mode without having read it. Quite a telling level of what seemed like defensiveness in a lot of cases, in my _iew. "

I agree, but I think those of us who see what the op posted about also see the same people jumping to their own defence on these threads. These are the very same people who can't have a sane debate about racism, and all they are doing is showing themselves up. I must admit, when I see threads like this, I have my blinkers on because as a family we experience racism every day. My partner is so immune to it, he doesn't often speak out, but as a white woman, I speak out because people need to be called on it. For every message on here, consider the source .... you are right in one of your earlier posts, people show their true colours, if you pardon the pun.

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