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By *llureTrio OP   Couple
over a year ago

Schuylkill County

Why don't couples like to play with bisexual men? We understand single men, but we don't understand the complication with bisexual men. Even if that's not an option within the experience. The conversation stops as soon as some learns of his sexuality. We are just curious?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Choice...some people don't feel attracted to others based on height, body shape, their character, skin colour, religion, hair colour, measurements etc etc etc...sexuality is another.

It'd take a dissertation to try and explain why, just be happy to know some will like you and others won't...

'tis the way it is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hence most bi men saying they are str8 on profile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We used to be like those who you speak of .

Infact it was not until we had been swinging for a couple of years that we realised we were missing out on so much more fun by avoiding bi guys and TVs / CDs and Transgender people .

Over the past few months we have well and truly embraced all of the above , and our journey has taken us to places we didn't think existed !

The liberated feeling we have now , the euphoria of a new experience , and the lack of judgement we place on anyone is like the icing on the cake .

So not all of us are like the op paints us .

There are plenty like us who are happy with who we are , and just as importantly , happy with who you are .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's amazing how many 'straight ' guys contact us and then go onto say they are Bi, but don't advertise the fact as they don't want to limit their replies/meets.

We would not play with a guy who cannot be honest, as trust is very important to us when playing, though you can never be sure who has done what with whom.

As said earlier it is all about preferences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We used to be like those who you speak of .

Infact it was not until we had been swinging for a couple of years that we realised we were missing out on so much more fun by avoiding bi guys and TVs / CDs and Transgender people .

Over the past few months we have well and truly embraced all of the above , and our journey has taken us to places we didn't think existed !

The liberated feeling we have now , the euphoria of a new experience , and the lack of judgement we place on anyone is like the icing on the cake .

So not all of us are like the op paints us .

There are plenty like us who are happy with who we are , and just as importantly , happy with who you are .

"

What a refreshing attitude! It's very fashionable for the ladies of FAB to be 'bi', but stick that, or CD/TV on a male profile and you may as well put 'leper'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We used to be like those who you speak of .

Infact it was not until we had been swinging for a couple of years that we realised we were missing out on so much more fun by avoiding bi guys and TVs / CDs and Transgender people .

Over the past few months we have well and truly embraced all of the above , and our journey has taken us to places we didn't think existed !

The liberated feeling we have now , the euphoria of a new experience , and the lack of judgement we place on anyone is like the icing on the cake .

So not all of us are like the op paints us .

There are plenty like us who are happy with who we are , and just as importantly , happy with who you are .

What a refreshing attitude! It's very fashionable for the ladies of FAB to be 'bi', but stick that, or CD/TV on a male profile and you may as well put 'leper' "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well we prefer bi men much more fun

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By *hoot45Man
over a year ago

Ramsgate

Many guys with straight on their profile contact me but I'm fine with that - it's just a label for general orientation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's amazing how many 'straight ' guys contact us and then go onto say they are Bi, but don't advertise the fact as they don't want to limit their replies/meets.

We would not play with a guy who cannot be honest, as trust is very important to us when playing, though you can never be sure who has done what with whom.

As said earlier it is all about preferences.

"

Same here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's amazing how many 'straight ' guys contact us and then go onto say they are Bi, but don't advertise the fact as they don't want to limit their replies/meets.

We would not play with a guy who cannot be honest, as trust is very important to us when playing, though you can never be sure who has done what with whom.

As said earlier it is all about preferences.

"

I looked at a couples profile yesterday and in capitals they stipulated they would not meet a bi guy, it was quite arrogant the way they put it, I checked the Veris and one of the guys they'd met who had straight on his profile is bi, it did make me laugh, oh, said male had contacted me asking to meet for (won't give details of what he wanted to do)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people, tut...

Many new to the scene, think a bi man will ignore the woman and try to cop off with the bloke.... I think that's Gay, could be wrong.

Bi means (to me) I'm good to play with them both, one or the other. We gust need to agree what is good and not. I found many women get a big kick out of sucking another's cock with their partner and that's as far as any bi goes. The rest is about 2 men and her....

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By *hoot45Man
over a year ago

Ramsgate

Some women do like to see their male partner with another guy. I've been asked a few times if I'd mind this scenario but I've not done it up to now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS "

turn off i understand but aids ?? mmm think the risk for that is everywhere not just bi men also have you ever given thought that you most probly have played with a bi guy already as most bi guys say the are str8 ?? if its a fear of aids then guess your in the wrong sport

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!


"It's amazing how many 'straight ' guys contact us and then go onto say they are Bi, but don't advertise the fact as they don't want to limit their replies/meets.

We would not play with a guy who cannot be honest, as trust is very important to us when playing, though you can never be sure who has done what with whom.

As said earlier it is all about preferences.

I looked at a couples profile yesterday and in capitals they stipulated they would not meet a bi guy, it was quite arrogant the way they put it, I checked the Veris and one of the guys they'd met who had straight on his profile is bi, it did make me laugh, oh, said male had contacted me asking to meet for (won't give details of what he wanted to do) "

People who say they won't play with bi men have more than likely already unknowingly done so!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the label bothers you too much just write a profile that explains your level of bi;

Straight to me means a you don't find same sex attractive.

Bi can range from you are attracted to both sexes equally down to you're attracted to cocks but very little else about a guy.

Bi-curious for more than a couple months means "I forgot to change it after I had my first gay experience"

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By *aveandkate35Couple
over a year ago

telford


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

turn off i understand but aids ?? mmm think the risk for that is everywhere not just bi men also have you ever given thought that you most probly have played with a bi guy already as most bi guys say the are str8 ?? if its a fear of aids then guess your in the wrong sport "

I agree with the poster, I think HIV will be one of the main reasons why. That and the fact that a lot of straight men aren't comfortable with it.

Yes there are risks in however you play but it's a fact, statistically bi sexual men are in a higher risk category.

That said, I think it's too broad a statement. For instance someone who has embraced their bi side all their life may be higher risk than say a male who enjoys it during swinging with his partner.

When all said and done I'm a big believer in doing what feels right at the time, take responsibility for your own sexual health and then you know where you stand.

But to the op - some will use the above as a way of being responsible and managing their own risk. Which you can't criticise.

D

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

turn off i understand but aids ?? mmm think the risk for that is everywhere not just bi men also have you ever given thought that you most probly have played with a bi guy already as most bi guys say the are str8 ?? if its a fear of aids then guess your in the wrong sport "

It may be everywhere but have you not seen the new number/percentage of cases involving gay/bisexual men? Nothing wrong with trying to minimise the risk is there?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because we don't want to simple as that really.

Not because we are scared of anyone jumping on a stray cock and we play safe so that mitigates the risk anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS "

If that's one of your fears then I think you need to look closely at what your doing here as well as statistics. Straight people contract Aids too and your at as much risk of contracting an STD or STI as a bisexual man, in fact as you are swingers your actually in a higher category of catching something even without choosing a bisexual man to play with!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

If that's one of your fears then I think you need to look closely at what your doing here as well as statistics. Straight people contract Aids too and your at as much risk of contracting an STD or STI as a bisexual man, in fact as you are swingers your actually in a higher category of catching something even without choosing a bisexual man to play with! "

Really? 50% of the number of new HIV cases last year involved gay or bisexual men. Are you telling me that gay and bisexual men make up 50% of the population. And even if being a swingers puts you at a higher risk than normal what is wrong with trying to reduce the risk as much ar possible??

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds

We don't have any problems playing with bi guys as long as it is understood that they play totally straight. Both of us are turned off by man on man sex.

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By *udistnorthantsMan
over a year ago

Desborough

For quite a while I kept my bi curiousity out of my profile as I was worried it would put a lot of potential Single Females and Couples off meeting me...since embracing my fondness for Bi Oral fun during grou pmeets, and openly declaring it in my profile, I havn't found it to be a problem, and far from being treated as a leper

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Really? 50% of the number of new HIV cases last year involved gay or bisexual men. Are you telling me that gay and bisexual men make up 50% of the population. And even if being a swingers puts you at a higher risk than normal what is wrong with trying to reduce the risk as much ar possible??"

What's your source for this information?

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"Why don't couples like to play with bisexual men? We understand single men, but we don't understand the complication with bisexual men. Even if that's not an option within the experience. The conversation stops as soon as some learns of his sexuality. We are just curious?"

Dunno

Way around it that some bisexual guys have two profiles; one as heterosexual, the other as bisexual

Same guy and everything but now appeals to everyone; well, as much as he would have been appealing anyway minus sexuality

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS "

Everyone should be using condoms regardless of being bi or straight and actually you will find that most bi/gay guys are much more active on promoting sexual health

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

Why can't people play how they want without asking others why they'd exclude them?

Tolerance only seems to apply for some where their needs are concerned, yet differing views are seen as "phobic".

The only porn I enjoy is gay. Man on man action does it for me, the butcher the better.

When playing however I don't meet bi men. As I don't always have penetrative sex with meets "infection" isn't the issue. I like the blush of humiliation and the resistance of straight men when you use a dildo etc on them. That's why I don't meet black men either as I can't see the blush.

I know some bi men are only orally bi and some black men are light skinned: my experiences have honed what I like for fantasy sexual playmates.

My other half doesn't have a submissive bone in his body and has "no entry" in neon lights above his arsehole.

Sexual preferences don't necessarily mean "leper" if you're excluded.

The beauty of Fab is there's someone for everyone. I choose to concentrate on those seeking to meet me rather than those who don't!

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

turn off i understand but aids ?? mmm think the risk for that is everywhere not just bi men also have you ever given thought that you most probly have played with a bi guy already as most bi guys say the are str8 ?? if its a fear of aids then guess your in the wrong sport

I agree with the poster, I think HIV will be one of the main reasons why. That and the fact that a lot of straight men aren't comfortable with it.

Yes there are risks in however you play but it's a fact, statistically bi sexual men are in a higher risk category.

That said, I think it's too broad a statement. For instance someone who has embraced their bi side all their life may be higher risk than say a male who enjoys it during swinging with his partner.

When all said and done I'm a big believer in doing what feels right at the time, take responsibility for your own sexual health and then you know where you stand.

But to the op - some will use the above as a way of being responsible and managing their own risk. Which you can't criticise.

D"
Think this statistic from the Terence Higgins Trust may interest you.x

Around 43,500 gay and bisexual men and around 59,000 heterosexuals were estimated to be living with HIV in the UK by the end of 2013.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

turn off i understand but aids ?? mmm think the risk for that is everywhere not just bi men also have you ever given thought that you most probly have played with a bi guy already as most bi guys say the are str8 ?? if its a fear of aids then guess your in the wrong sport

I agree with the poster, I think HIV will be one of the main reasons why. That and the fact that a lot of straight men aren't comfortable with it.

Yes there are risks in however you play but it's a fact, statistically bi sexual men are in a higher risk category.

That said, I think it's too broad a statement. For instance someone who has embraced their bi side all their life may be higher risk than say a male who enjoys it during swinging with his partner.

When all said and done I'm a big believer in doing what feels right at the time, take responsibility for your own sexual health and then you know where you stand.

But to the op - some will use the above as a way of being responsible and managing their own risk. Which you can't criticise.

DThink this statistic from the Terence Higgins Trust may interest you.x

Around 43,500 gay and bisexual men and around 59,000 heterosexuals were estimated to be living with HIV in the UK by the end of 2013."

I wonder how many of the 59000 heterosexuals are secretly bi,but hide it because people don't meet bi guys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why can't people play how they want without asking others why they'd exclude them?

Tolerance only seems to apply for some where their needs are concerned, yet differing views are seen as "phobic".

The only porn I enjoy is gay. Man on man action does it for me, the butcher the better.

When playing however I don't meet bi men. As I don't always have penetrative sex with meets "infection" isn't the issue. I like the blush of humiliation and the resistance of straight men when you use a dildo etc on them. That's why I don't meet black men either as I can't see the blush.

I know some bi men are only orally bi and some black men are light skinned: my experiences have honed what I like for fantasy sexual playmates.

My other half doesn't have a submissive bone in his body and has "no entry" in neon lights above his arsehole.

Sexual preferences don't necessarily mean "leper" if you're excluded.

The beauty of Fab is there's someone for everyone. I choose to concentrate on those seeking to meet me rather than those who don't!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

turn off i understand but aids ?? mmm think the risk for that is everywhere not just bi men also have you ever given thought that you most probly have played with a bi guy already as most bi guys say the are str8 ?? if its a fear of aids then guess your in the wrong sport

I agree with the poster, I think HIV will be one of the main reasons why. That and the fact that a lot of straight men aren't comfortable with it.

Yes there are risks in however you play but it's a fact, statistically bi sexual men are in a higher risk category.

That said, I think it's too broad a statement. For instance someone who has embraced their bi side all their life may be higher risk than say a male who enjoys it during swinging with his partner.

When all said and done I'm a big believer in doing what feels right at the time, take responsibility for your own sexual health and then you know where you stand.

But to the op - some will use the above as a way of being responsible and managing their own risk. Which you can't criticise.

DThink this statistic from the Terence Higgins Trust may interest you.x

Around 43,500 gay and bisexual men and around 59,000 heterosexuals were estimated to be living with HIV in the UK by the end of 2013."

Shame it does not break the Heterosexual data down by sex.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If the label bothers you too much just write a profile that explains your level of bi;

Straight to me means a you don't find same sex attractive.

Bi can range from you are attracted to both sexes equally down to you're attracted to cocks but very little else about a guy.

Bi-curious for more than a couple months means "I forgot to change it after I had my first gay experience""

No it doesn't. I'm still bi-curious after eleven months because after trying it twice, I still don't know if it's my thing or not.

I had a very good experience and a very bad one. So the jury's still out.

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By *ikki ShooterTV/TS
over a year ago

Epsom


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS "

It was but s matter of time!

I think my popcorns ready

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS "

Well there's one if the most uneducated and misinformed posts of the day...

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By *ikki ShooterTV/TS
over a year ago

Epsom


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

If that's one of your fears then I think you need to look closely at what your doing here as well as statistics. Straight people contract Aids too and your at as much risk of contracting an STD or STI as a bisexual man, in fact as you are swingers your actually in a higher category of catching something even without choosing a bisexual man to play with!

Really? 50% of the number of new HIV cases last year involved gay or bisexual men. Are you telling me that gay and bisexual men make up 50% of the population. And even if being a swingers puts you at a higher risk than normal what is wrong with trying to reduce the risk as much ar possible??"

Most new cases appear because bisexual men are more likely to get tested then their straight counterparts. And that is a sad fact. (and not just because I used the word fact either)

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I'm bisexual (although the degree to which I am varies as sometimes I only have straight sex) and everyone I've met wanted to meet me.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

turn off i understand but aids ?? mmm think the risk for that is everywhere not just bi men also have you ever given thought that you most probly have played with a bi guy already as most bi guys say the are str8 ?? if its a fear of aids then guess your in the wrong sport

I agree with the poster, I think HIV will be one of the main reasons why. That and the fact that a lot of straight men aren't comfortable with it.

Yes there are risks in however you play but it's a fact, statistically bi sexual men are in a higher risk category.

That said, I think it's too broad a statement. For instance someone who has embraced their bi side all their life may be higher risk than say a male who enjoys it during swinging with his partner.

When all said and done I'm a big believer in doing what feels right at the time, take responsibility for your own sexual health and then you know where you stand.

But to the op - some will use the above as a way of being responsible and managing their own risk. Which you can't criticise.

DThink this statistic from the Terence Higgins Trust may interest you.x

Around 43,500 gay and bisexual men and around 59,000 heterosexuals were estimated to be living with HIV in the UK by the end of 2013.

I wonder how many of the 59000 heterosexuals are secretly bi,but hide it because people don't meet bi guys "

They have two profiles there too?

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By *ikki ShooterTV/TS
over a year ago

Epsom

Have you ever noticed how these discussions are always geared towards bi men..... As if bi women can't catch anything...... When was the last time you had thrush?

Just saying!

STI from mild annoyance to terminal should be treated with the same respect as a mild case of one thing could be covering something else. Just my 2pence worth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have you ever noticed how these discussions are always geared towards bi men..... As if bi women can't catch anything...... When was the last time you had thrush?

Just saying!

STI from mild annoyance to terminal should be treated with the same respect as a mild case of one thing could be covering something else. Just my 2pence worth."

Just to point out that thrush isn't actually an STI... it can be sexually transmitted if you have sexual contact before the symptoms clear up but it ISN'T an STI. It's actually caused by factors such as antibiotics, diabetes & pregnancy, and people who have never even had sex can get the infection too. Lumping thrush together with actual STIs like AIDs, gonorrhea, chlamydia and so on is ridiculous.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"Have you ever noticed how these discussions are always geared towards bi men..... As if bi women can't catch anything...... When was the last time you had thrush?

Just saying!

STI from mild annoyance to terminal should be treated with the same respect as a mild case of one thing could be covering something else. Just my 2pence worth."

Bi-women are not at any greater risk than heterosexual women; infact, at slightly lower risk as we divide our time between men and women and therefore meet less men than a similar heterosexual woman. Lesbian are at very low risk

Thrush is hardly life-threatening

With men, it is the reverse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's amazing how many 'straight ' guys contact us and then go onto say they are Bi, but don't advertise the fact as they don't want to limit their replies/meets.

We would not play with a guy who cannot be honest, as trust is very important to us when playing, though you can never be sure who has done what with whom.

As said earlier it is all about preferences.

"

Same here on average 3 messages a day from "straight" guys but suddenly are "bi".

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By *ikki ShooterTV/TS
over a year ago

Epsom


"Have you ever noticed how these discussions are always geared towards bi men..... As if bi women can't catch anything...... When was the last time you had thrush?

Just saying!

STI from mild annoyance to terminal should be treated with the same respect as a mild case of one thing could be covering something else. Just my 2pence worth.

Just to point out that thrush isn't actually an STI... it can be sexually transmitted if you have sexual contact before the symptoms clear up but it ISN'T an STI. It's actually caused by factors such as antibiotics, diabetes & pregnancy, and people who have never even had sex can get the infection too. Lumping thrush together with actual STIs like AIDs, gonorrhea, chlamydia and so on is ridiculous. "

Thrush is included in sexually transmitted infections due to the increased fauna that his not from the host body. If left unchecked can get very nasty. Though antibiotics are one cause of the natural good bacteria depletion. Sex has been the reason for increasing number among student factions and older. To not take it seriously is stupid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Frankly, it's just the way it is. We will meet people/couples with any combination of bi, but both play straight and insist on that before a meet.

We've had several hissy fits from couples who cannot press VS in to bi action, but categorically state no bi males.

There are a hugely disproportionate number of couples with bi females and a straight male and, let's face facts - couples with 'bi'females and straight males on swinging sites. The vast majority of whom have "1000+% straight" males and don't meet bi males.

We were never party animals, but at both parties we have been to there were clearly more of the latter, with very eagerly watching partners. Other people will have a different experience to that.

Everybody has different reasons, STIs, homophobia towards males and personal preference appear to be the main reasons (in no order).

However, regarding STIs it would take but a few minutes to find a dozen profiles of couples who explicitly don't meet with bi males, with a whole stack of bareback pictures from multiple men.

As for the gender stats on HIV, according to HIVAWARE, roughly two thirds are men and one third are women.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


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The vast majority of whom have "1000+% straight" males and don't meet bi males.

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How can anyone be more than 100% of anything?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

turn off i understand but aids ?? mmm think the risk for that is everywhere not just bi men also have you ever given thought that you most probly have played with a bi guy already as most bi guys say the are str8 ?? if its a fear of aids then guess your in the wrong sport "

Well said

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This might be the most depressing thread ever, when people start throwing out statistics on things like sti's you know nobody is getting to have some fun today

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

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The vast majority of whom have "1000+% straight" males and don't meet bi males.

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How can anyone be more than 100% of anything?"

They can't, but often the per centage quoted on profiles is greater than 100, so I was being ironic.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


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The vast majority of whom have "1000+% straight" males and don't meet bi males.

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How can anyone be more than 100% of anything?

They can't, but often the per centage quoted on profiles is greater than 100, so I was being ironic."

I know you were and my retort wasn't aimed at you; xxx

I generally find that people who are drama-queens in one aspect of their lives are also drama-queens in another. Those I stay clear off as I watch NetF***; I said, NetFlix

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is a risk of aids in all groups of people straight, bi, gay if not using unprotected sex ir not playing careful. To narrow it down to bi or gay guys is a bit naive. Personally I only play safe with anyone as I dont want to catch anything nasty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is a risk of aids in all groups of people straight, bi, gay if not using unprotected sex ir not playing careful. To narrow it down to bi or gay guys is a bit naive. Personally I only play safe with anyone as I dont want to catch anything nasty"

Safe???

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By *olfcartweaselCouple
over a year ago

Melrose

If you're swinging and not getting tested regularly - straight *or* bi - then you're really being pretty irresponsible.

"I won't sleep with bi guys" is not a substitute for regular testing, and doesn't keep you safe from AIDS or any other STD.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

Well there's one if the most uneducated and misinformed posts of the day...

"

Maybe I should have said HIV instead of AIDS but apart from that why is the post uneducated or misinformed?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Really? 50% of the number of new HIV cases last year involved gay or bisexual men. Are you telling me that gay and bisexual men make up 50% of the population. And even if being a swingers puts you at a higher risk than normal what is wrong with trying to reduce the risk as much ar possible??

What's your source for this information?

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Www.NAT.ORG.UK for a start but there are plenty of places to look

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By *rvoyuerMan
over a year ago

Luton


"We used to be like those who you speak of .

Infact it was not until we had been swinging for a couple of years that we realised we were missing out on so much more fun by avoiding bi guys and TVs / CDs and Transgender people .

Over the past few months we have well and truly embraced all of the above , and our journey has taken us to places we didn't think existed !

The liberated feeling we have now , the euphoria of a new experience , and the lack of judgement we place on anyone is like the icing on the cake .

So not all of us are like the op paints us .

There are plenty like us who are happy with who we are , and just as importantly , happy with who you are .

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

turn off i understand but aids ?? mmm think the risk for that is everywhere not just bi men also have you ever given thought that you most probly have played with a bi guy already as most bi guys say the are str8 ?? if its a fear of aids then guess your in the wrong sport

I agree with the poster, I think HIV will be one of the main reasons why. That and the fact that a lot of straight men aren't comfortable with it.

Yes there are risks in however you play but it's a fact, statistically bi sexual men are in a higher risk category.

That said, I think it's too broad a statement. For instance someone who has embraced their bi side all their life may be higher risk than say a male who enjoys it during swinging with his partner.

When all said and done I'm a big believer in doing what feels right at the time, take responsibility for your own sexual health and then you know where you stand.

But to the op - some will use the above as a way of being responsible and managing their own risk. Which you can't criticise.

DThink this statistic from the Terence Higgins Trust may interest you.x

Around 43,500 gay and bisexual men and around 59,000 heterosexuals were estimated to be living with HIV in the UK by the end of 2013.

I wonder how many of the 59000 heterosexuals are secretly bi,but hide it because people don't meet bi guys "
So another words, we have no idea how many infected folk are bi or straight ? That gets rid of that old chestnut then.lol.x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you're swinging and not getting tested regularly - straight *or* bi - then you're really being pretty irresponsible.

"I won't sleep with bi guys" is not a substitute for regular testing, and doesn't keep you safe from AIDS or any other STD."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you're swinging and not getting tested regularly - straight *or* bi - then you're really being pretty irresponsible.

"I won't sleep with bi guys" is not a substitute for regular testing, and doesn't keep you safe from AIDS or any other STD."

I just got tested, no text means no critters!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

If that's one of your fears then I think you need to look closely at what your doing here as well as statistics. Straight people contract Aids too and your at as much risk of contracting an STD or STI as a bisexual man, in fact as you are swingers your actually in a higher category of catching something even without choosing a bisexual man to play with!

Really? 50% of the number of new HIV cases last year involved gay or bisexual men. Are you telling me that gay and bisexual men make up 50% of the population. And even if being a swingers puts you at a higher risk than normal what is wrong with trying to reduce the risk as much ar possible??

Most new cases appear because bisexual men are more likely to get tested then their straight counterparts. And that is a sad fact. (and not just because I used the word fact either) "

I'd be interested to know how many sexually active non-swingers get tested. Same for swinging couples meeting couples...

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By *olfcartweaselCouple
over a year ago

Melrose


"I just got tested, no text means no critters! "

My local clinic just sends a message from "MESSAGE" saying "Your test results are fine"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We used to be like those who you speak of .

Infact it was not until we had been swinging for a couple of years that we realised we were missing out on so much more fun by avoiding bi guys and TVs / CDs and Transgender people .

Over the past few months we have well and truly embraced all of the above , and our journey has taken us to places we didn't think existed !

The liberated feeling we have now , the euphoria of a new experience , and the lack of judgement we place on anyone is like the icing on the cake .

So not all of us are like the op paints us .

There are plenty like us who are happy with who we are , and just as importantly , happy with who you are .

What a refreshing attitude! It's very fashionable for the ladies of FAB to be 'bi', but stick that, or CD/TV on a male profile and you may as well put 'leper' "

I agree it's refreshing to see such a great attitude but your right put TV on the profile and it's a lot worse!

It's not just people not wanting to talk I can understand that if we're not your type but we constantly have couples that arrange to meet and back out at the last minute. It seems when one of you is a bi TV then it's ok to change your mind last minute and not let us know. I often wonder if these couples would be so rude if we were a mf couple x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

turn off i understand but aids ?? mmm think the risk for that is everywhere not just bi men also have you ever given thought that you most probly have played with a bi guy already as most bi guys say the are str8 ?? if its a fear of aids then guess your in the wrong sport

It may be everywhere but have you not seen the new number/percentage of cases involving gay/bisexual men? Nothing wrong with trying to minimise the risk is there?"

But your not minimising the risk..... 99% of the messages we get are from single guys and couples that have straight on their profile and are bi. They say they won't put on their profile as it turns couples off. You can choose no bi men but on here most people lie

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

turn off i understand but aids ?? mmm think the risk for that is everywhere not just bi men also have you ever given thought that you most probly have played with a bi guy already as most bi guys say the are str8 ?? if its a fear of aids then guess your in the wrong sport

It may be everywhere but have you not seen the new number/percentage of cases involving gay/bisexual men? Nothing wrong with trying to minimise the risk is there?

But your not minimising the risk..... 99% of the messages we get are from single guys and couples that have straight on their profile and are bi. They say they won't put on their profile as it turns couples off. You can choose no bi men but on here most people lie "

So what are you saying? Just fuck everybody?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not at all, you have a preference that's your choice but it doesn't make it any less risky because you choose not to meet bi guys as most will lie to meet you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

turn off i understand but aids ?? mmm think the risk for that is everywhere not just bi men also have you ever given thought that you most probly have played with a bi guy already as most bi guys say the are str8 ?? if its a fear of aids then guess your in the wrong sport

It may be everywhere but have you not seen the new number/percentage of cases involving gay/bisexual men? Nothing wrong with trying to minimise the risk is there?

But your not minimising the risk..... 99% of the messages we get are from single guys and couples that have straight on their profile and are bi. They say they won't put on their profile as it turns couples off. You can choose no bi men but on here most people lie

So what are you saying? Just fuck everybody?"

No one is saying just fuck everybody .

Just go with those you find attractive , and that there is a connection with .

Irrespective of whether they are bi or not .

There truly is no such thing as safe sex , and while you believe that the risk of hiv is greater amongst the bi men out there - from our experience of those we have met from fab , they are way more careful than the non swingers .

This can be a minefield , and the more stigmas you have , the less fun you will have .

Of course you know what floats your boat. And you may not find tv/ts attractive , that's cool . But to think you will never play with an orally bi guy is naive . And he is at no more risk than any straight woman on here .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not at all, you have a preference that's your choice but it doesn't make it any less risky because you choose not to meet bi guys as most will lie to meet you "

Maybe but at least you get to meet some straight guys and in your mind they are all straight. At least you admit that meeting bi guys is more risky than meeting straight ones though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Again not at all. I was on here on a single profile for years before we met meeting bi and straight guys and in my opinion bi guys are much more responsible about getting themselves checked. Straight guys seem to bury their head in the sand and think it will never happen to them. So I agree on paper a bigger risk but in reality I'm not so sure

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By *vgloryholebs16TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol.

My limited experience from this site is that the guys who say they are straight often do so because if they admit to being bi/gay or that they like TV's etc,then a lot of women and couples feel less attracted to them(some think not real men) and in terms of hiv and other std's,bisexual men are considered a higher risk..

people have always lied in order to get sex,woman included(think age,size etc),so it is nothing new and I cannot see this changing.

I have had two meets today from straight men and they both said it was to attract a bigger audience.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I just got tested, no text means no critters!

My local clinic just sends a message from "MESSAGE" saying "Your test results are fine""

Wish mine did that but they only message if you're positive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS "

I think you'll find the risk of catching AIDS is remarkably similar with bi men as with swingers in general.

Most swingers who've played the scene for a while will play with a bi guy or a lady who's been with one or a guy who's played with a lady who's been with one or.....well you get my point I hope? Each person you play with brings their history with them.

I play with guys, surprise! I get tested two weeks after a play for swabs and pee. Three monthly for bloods. I'm as safe as the next.

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By *erebothbiCouple
over a year ago

howden

Makes me laugh, people who discriminate against bi men and meet "straight" guys quite happily not realizing they have been duped.

Personal preferences are just fine for whatever reason but not meeting a guy because he isnt lying to you ??

There is even a single woman on here who says bi guys are not as good at sex as straight guys ??

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By *raceytvcdTV/TS
over a year ago

mansfield

I got tested at a local club in derby by nhs out workers .they txted me which said results all clear .i think every club should do this and everyone should get tested whether straight,gay,bi its everyones resposiblity to look after yourself and everyone else xt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Makes me laugh, people who discriminate against bi men and meet "straight" guys quite happily not realizing they have been duped.

Personal preferences are just fine for whatever reason but not meeting a guy because he isnt lying to you ??

There is even a single woman on here who says bi guys are not as good at sex as straight guys ?? "

What makes me laugh is people who think a good reason to meet someone is because he isnt lying to you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

I think you'll find the risk of catching AIDS is remarkably similar with bi men as with swingers in general.

Most swingers who've played the scene for a while will play with a bi guy or a lady who's been with one or a guy who's played with a lady who's been with one or.....well you get my point I hope? Each person you play with brings their history with them.

I play with guys, surprise! I get tested two weeks after a play for swabs and pee. Three monthly for bloods. I'm as safe as the next. "

I understand and agree with everything you're saying but it really isnt going to change the way people think and all I was doing was suggesting reasons as to why people won't meet bi guys, which is what the Op asked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

I think you'll find the risk of catching AIDS is remarkably similar with bi men as with swingers in general.

Most swingers who've played the scene for a while will play with a bi guy or a lady who's been with one or a guy who's played with a lady who's been with one or.....well you get my point I hope? Each person you play with brings their history with them.

I play with guys, surprise! I get tested two weeks after a play for swabs and pee. Three monthly for bloods. I'm as safe as the next.

I understand and agree with everything you're saying but it really isnt going to change the way people think and all I was doing was suggesting reasons as to why people won't meet bi guys, which is what the Op asked"

If you agree then why say that bi guys pose a greater risk of AIDS?

I hope one day people will be more accepting of other people's sexuality and not stereotype them.

If you played with a bi guy chances are he'll appear to be as straight as the next guy. Are you are put off because he might have had a bj off a guy?

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By *im himCouple (MM)
over a year ago

bedworth


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

I think you'll find the risk of catching AIDS is remarkably similar with bi men as with swingers in general.

Most swingers who've played the scene for a while will play with a bi guy or a lady who's been with one or a guy who's played with a lady who's been with one or.....well you get my point I hope? Each person you play with brings their history with them.

I play with guys, surprise! I get tested two weeks after a play for swabs and pee. Three monthly for bloods. I'm as safe as the next.

I understand and agree with everything you're saying but it really isnt going to change the way people think and all I was doing was suggesting reasons as to why people won't meet bi guys, which is what the Op asked

If you agree then why say that bi guys pose a greater risk of AIDS?

I hope one day people will be more accepting of other people's sexuality and not stereotype them.

If you played with a bi guy chances are he'll appear to be as straight as the next guy. Are you are put off because he might have had a bj off a guy?"

You should go to a gay sauna , lots of so called straight guys & marrid guys in there , all doing things that they really should not be doing . They then go back to there wife's or portray themselves on here that they are straight . What's more risky ? A bi guy that takes his sexual health seriously or one of these so called straight guys that go to a gay sauna and don't give a toss where they stick there willy ! I know where we would be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

I think you'll find the risk of catching AIDS is remarkably similar with bi men as with swingers in general.

Most swingers who've played the scene for a while will play with a bi guy or a lady who's been with one or a guy who's played with a lady who's been with one or.....well you get my point I hope? Each person you play with brings their history with them.

I play with guys, surprise! I get tested two weeks after a play for swabs and pee. Three monthly for bloods. I'm as safe as the next.

I understand and agree with everything you're saying but it really isnt going to change the way people think and all I was doing was suggesting reasons as to why people won't meet bi guys, which is what the Op asked

If you agree then why say that bi guys pose a greater risk of AIDS?

I hope one day people will be more accepting of other people's sexuality and not stereotype them.

If you played with a bi guy chances are he'll appear to be as straight as the next guy. Are you are put off because he might have had a bj off a guy?

You should go to a gay sauna , lots of so called straight guys & marrid guys in there , all doing things that they really should not be doing . They then go back to there wife's or portray themselves on here that they are straight . What's more risky ? A bi guy that takes his sexual health seriously or one of these so called straight guys that go to a gay sauna and don't give a toss where they stick there willy ! I know where we would be "

I do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

I think you'll find the risk of catching AIDS is remarkably similar with bi men as with swingers in general.

Most swingers who've played the scene for a while will play with a bi guy or a lady who's been with one or a guy who's played with a lady who's been with one or.....well you get my point I hope? Each person you play with brings their history with them.

I play with guys, surprise! I get tested two weeks after a play for swabs and pee. Three monthly for bloods. I'm as safe as the next.

I understand and agree with everything you're saying but it really isnt going to change the way people think and all I was doing was suggesting reasons as to why people won't meet bi guys, which is what the Op asked

If you agree then why say that bi guys pose a greater risk of AIDS?

I hope one day people will be more accepting of other people's sexuality and not stereotype them.

If you played with a bi guy chances are he'll appear to be as straight as the next guy. Are you are put off because he might have had a bj off a guy?"

Maybe should have said percieved risk then. But as I said earlier 50% of new cases of HIV were reported to be gay or bisexual men, unfortunately there were no numbers for swingers, so make of that what you will, as other people will

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By *raceytvcdTV/TS
over a year ago

mansfield


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

I think you'll find the risk of catching AIDS is remarkably similar with bi men as with swingers in general.

Most swingers who've played the scene for a while will play with a bi guy or a lady who's been with one or a guy who's played with a lady who's been with one or.....well you get my point I hope? Each person you play with brings their history with them.

I play with guys, surprise! I get tested two weeks after a play for swabs and pee. Three monthly for bloods. I'm as safe as the next.

I understand and agree with everything you're saying but it really isnt going to change the way people think and all I was doing was suggesting reasons as to why people won't meet bi guys, which is what the Op asked

If you agree then why say that bi guys pose a greater risk of AIDS?

I hope one day people will be more accepting of other people's sexuality and not stereotype them.

If you played with a bi guy chances are he'll appear to be as straight as the next guy. Are you are put off because he might have had a bj off a guy?

You should go to a gay sauna , lots of so called straight guys & marrid guys in there , all doing things that they really should not be doing . They then go back to there wife's or portray themselves on here that they are straight . What's more risky ? A bi guy that takes his sexual health seriously or one of these so called straight guys that go to a gay sauna and don't give a toss where they stick there willy ! I know where we would be "

Ive just had a so called straight married guy message me and wanting to meet ---just goes to show.how many of the straight couples has he contacted/met? Xt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hell who cares, for us our sexuality is fairly fluid, bi gay straight queer lesbian transgender cross dresser up in the clouds or just down right plain perverted suits us fine

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By *urlyshirleyCouple
over a year ago

Costa del Sol

Seems to me women up for threesomes want to be getting attention from another man or another woman. A bisexual man would be possibly more interested in the guy than the girl and if I were up for a threesome that wouldn't rock my boat.

Not in a couple so this is just an opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The mfm threesomes I've had (lots) I very often only play with the female. I can play with guys anytime. They're ten a penny

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By *mojeeCouple
over a year ago

Dunfermline

For us it's simply because we don't want any gay or bi men joining our fun. There's no hidden agenda and definitely no prejudice but it's not what we are looking for. There's a reason there's all those check boxes when you sign up to this place.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

Well there's one if the most uneducated and misinformed posts of the day...

"

Oh I don't know, I think you'll find these threads always show an equal amount of misinformation and ignorance from both sides. Eventually someone quotes one statistic out of context, and ignores the ones that don't fit their particular bias.

I'd hate to burst anyone's bubble, but if you want to know one reason why straight couples have a phobia against bi-guys, you should hear what the sexual health nurses say about you behind your back (And possibly read all the information on the Terrance Higgins Trust website).

Are swingers more at risk? The studies show not. Swingers are generally more careful and responsible about their sexual health. I suspect that includes many of the honest bi-guys on here.

Is the phrase "I get tested regularly, so I'm okay" slightly reminiscent of horses, stable-doors and bolts? Perhaps.

Will men always lie about their sexuality? Maybe, but as the implications of 'Conditional consent' (as defined in the Sexual Offences Act) become more widely recognised and accepted, hopefully people will be more honest rather than risk the consequences. Nowadays very few people would post on this forum "she said she didn't want sex but how I laughed when I heard how they'd held her down and forced her"

Educate yourselves, and worry less about the people others wish to play with; worry only about the ones who wish to play with you and with whom you wish to play.

Mr ddc

Ps, just thought I'd put it out there, short, bald, ginger men are statistically less likely to have std's. Fact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

Well there's one if the most uneducated and misinformed posts of the day...

Oh I don't know, I think you'll find these threads always show an equal amount of misinformation and ignorance from both sides. Eventually someone quotes one statistic out of context, and ignores the ones that don't fit their particular bias.

I'd hate to burst anyone's bubble, but if you want to know one reason why straight couples have a phobia against bi-guys, you should hear what the sexual health nurses say about you behind your back (And possibly read all the information on the Terrance Higgins Trust website).

Are swingers more at risk? The studies show not. Swingers are generally more careful and responsible about their sexual health. I suspect that includes many of the honest bi-guys on here.

Is the phrase "I get tested regularly, so I'm okay" slightly reminiscent of horses, stable-doors and bolts? Perhaps.

Will men always lie about their sexuality? Maybe, but as the implications of 'Conditional consent' (as defined in the Sexual Offences Act) become more widely recognised and accepted, hopefully people will be more honest rather than risk the consequences. Nowadays very few people would post on this forum "she said she didn't want sex but how I laughed when I heard how they'd held her down and forced her"

Educate yourselves, and worry less about the people others wish to play with; worry only about the ones who wish to play with you and with whom you wish to play.

Mr ddc

Ps, just thought I'd put it out there, short, bald, ginger men are statistically less likely to have std's. Fact.

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By *vgloryholebs16TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol.

I imagine short bald ginger men are less likely to have lots of partners....

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By *candiumWoman
over a year ago

oban


"well we prefer bi men much more fun "

quite agree.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"I imagine short bald ginger men are less likely to have lots of partners...."

I think therein lay the humour:

(we're only one step up from monks)

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By *llureTrio OP   Couple
over a year ago

Schuylkill County

We completely understand. Hopefully we could find more people who are into this, and/or those who are can come out of hiding and be themselves. We know some who lie about being bisexual just so that they can share experiences. We think that is wrong. First off, don't deceive people we don't believe in that. Second, be yourself no matter what. If people don't like you, they don't like you. So what! Someone will if they can ever find you.

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By *llureTrio OP   Couple
over a year ago

Schuylkill County

We would agree! This type of thing need to STOP! Let's just keep it real and let it be what it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok ok. I'll stop hiding

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

*casts a beady eye around the thread*

Just WTactualF is goin' on here?!

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By *llureTrio OP   Couple
over a year ago

Schuylkill County

Thanks so much for your message in the forum, it was very insightful and inspirational. You two are amazing people who are very hard to find. Thanks so much for your honesty and for sharing all that you shared in this forum today. We truly appreciate it and hope to hear so much more from you.

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By *llureTrio OP   Couple
over a year ago

Schuylkill County

We understand why them gentlemen don't advertise the fact that they are bi because they don't wanna to limit their replies/meets we thought about that too! But We was like we gotta be true to ourselves all three of us. And never allow someone's feelings or opinions to prevent us from being Real. We can't help who we are and the first thing that we are is honest if nothing else.

We respectfully agree with you all not playing with anyone who cannot be honest, we feel 100% the same way because like you said trust is very important to us when playing even though as you said, you can never be sure who has done what with whom. We like to hope everyone we encounter is just as honest as we are.

We get everything that was said about preferences and agree with that too. But I think a lot of people misjudge this and we wanted to just chat about it for a while.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thanks so much for your message in the forum, it was very insightful and inspirational. You two are amazing people who are very hard to find. Thanks so much for your honesty and for sharing all that you shared in this forum today. We truly appreciate it and hope to hear so much more from you."

Please tell me the woman of your couple wrote this because intelligently sarcastic women are the rarest type of hawt?

Not everyones cup of tea but I met a lassie recently that would just floor me with laughter until I couldn't breath while onlookers thought she was a bitch

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By *llureTrio OP   Couple
over a year ago

Schuylkill County

lol

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By *llureTrio OP   Couple
over a year ago

Schuylkill County

I wrote it! My name is Jannell, I'm one of the Three of us within the AllureTrio! I am known as Silk. Glad to meet everyone! So YES one of us Women wrote these messages. However my wife Latanya tend to be more sarcastic then me sometimes once she get comfortable. Sexy sarcastic but sarcastic none the less...

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By *llureTrio OP   Couple
over a year ago

Schuylkill County

We are glad to hear that! Thanks so much for sharing...

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By *llureTrio OP   Couple
over a year ago

Schuylkill County

Thanks so much for posting, That was very informative. Just putting this out there, we are always careful and always check ourselves with the doctor's office just to make sure we good just because of the nature of people lying and you never know.

We appreciate you posting, THANKS SO MUCH!

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By *llureTrio OP   Couple
over a year ago

Schuylkill County

Thanks so much for posting, That was very informative. Just putting this out there, we are always careful and always check ourselves with the doctor's office just to make sure we good just because of the nature of people lying and you never know.

We appreciate you posting, THANKS SO MUCH!

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By *llureTrio OP   Couple
over a year ago

Schuylkill County

We completely Understand! Basically, it's just not your preference! And we Completely understand that part, but there are many other elements involved not with you all but other.

Thanks so much for Sharing!

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By *llureTrio OP   Couple
over a year ago

Schuylkill County

Thanks for Sharing, We really appreciate that!

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By *ripleXrateDWoman
over a year ago

Ayrshire


"If the label bothers you too much just write a profile that explains your level of bi;

Straight to me means a you don't find same sex attractive.

Bi can range from you are attracted to both sexes equally down to you're attracted to cocks but very little else about a guy.

Bi-curious for more than a couple months means "I forgot to change it after I had my first gay experience""

I'd normaly agree but my bf has agreed to a bi mmf and will try sex with the guy to. Thing is he just doesn't find men attractive. I've shown him lots of pics of every type of man imaginable but he is not attracted to any of them.

He says he'd describe himself as open. He's willing to try at least once then he'll decided what label he should have xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If the label bothers you too much just write a profile that explains your level of bi;

Straight to me means a you don't find same sex attractive.

Bi can range from you are attracted to both sexes equally down to you're attracted to cocks but very little else about a guy.

Bi-curious for more than a couple months means "I forgot to change it after I had my first gay experience"

I'd normaly agree but my bf has agreed to a bi mmf and will try sex with the guy to. Thing is he just doesn't find men attractive. I've shown him lots of pics of every type of man imaginable but he is not attracted to any of them.

He says he'd describe himself as open. He's willing to try at least once then he'll decided what label he should have xx"

There are lots of guys who don't fancy guys but do like playing with cocks.

Find yourselves a nice bi guy and tell him your fella has no experience and may or may not want to play.

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By *ripleXrateDWoman
over a year ago

Ayrshire


"If the label bothers you too much just write a profile that explains your level of bi;

Straight to me means a you don't find same sex attractive.

Bi can range from you are attracted to both sexes equally down to you're attracted to cocks but very little else about a guy.

Bi-curious for more than a couple months means "I forgot to change it after I had my first gay experience"

I'd normaly agree but my bf has agreed to a bi mmf and will try sex with the guy to. Thing is he just doesn't find men attractive. I've shown him lots of pics of every type of man imaginable but he is not attracted to any of them.

He says he'd describe himself as open. He's willing to try at least once then he'll decided what label he should have xx

There are lots of guys who don't fancy guys but do like playing with cocks.

Find yourselves a nice bi guy and tell him your fella has no experience and may or may not want to play.

"

I'm not quite ready yet, this world is very new to me but I'm more suprised just how easy going he is about it but I guess that's a guy thing lol.

Meeting a female soon again so think I'll keep mmf till after the new year. I'm going to start looking for guys chat for a while and maybe a social or two first xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I found a club s great place to start. If you arrange to meet there can be some perceived pressure. In a club, a shake of the head and they move on.

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By *ripleXrateDWoman
over a year ago

Ayrshire


"I found a club s great place to start. If you arrange to meet there can be some perceived pressure. In a club, a shake of the head and they move on. "

I don't think I'd ever play in a club. We spoke about clubs like cj's last night and I'm intrested in the social side but I can't see me ever having sex with a audience.

Not that I'm bigheaded enough to think everyone would want to watch me I just don't feel comfortable knowing they could. Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I found a club s great place to start. If you arrange to meet there can be some perceived pressure. In a club, a shake of the head and they move on.

I don't think I'd ever play in a club. We spoke about clubs like cj's last night and I'm intrested in the social side but I can't see me ever having sex with a audience.

Not that I'm bigheaded enough to think everyone would want to watch me I just don't feel comfortable knowing they could. Xx"

Yeah we know what you mean .

It can be intimidating with an audience .

But once you do it a few times it gets so much easier

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By *ripleXrateDWoman
over a year ago

Ayrshire


"I found a club s great place to start. If you arrange to meet there can be some perceived pressure. In a club, a shake of the head and they move on.

I don't think I'd ever play in a club. We spoke about clubs like cj's last night and I'm intrested in the social side but I can't see me ever having sex with a audience.

Not that I'm bigheaded enough to think everyone would want to watch me I just don't feel comfortable knowing they could. Xx

Yeah we know what you mean .

It can be intimidating with an audience .

But once you do it a few times it gets so much easier "

Right now I'd say I'd never do it. Last year I'd off said you'd never catch me writing on a singers Web sites forms so well see about clubs lol xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've experience with by cpls or singles

Anyone interested let me know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We used to be like those who you speak of .

Infact it was not until we had been swinging for a couple of years that we realised we were missing out on so much more fun by avoiding bi guys and TVs / CDs and Transgender people .

Over the past few months we have well and truly embraced all of the above , and our journey has taken us to places we didn't think existed !

The liberated feeling we have now , the euphoria of a new experience , and the lack of judgement we place on anyone is like the icing on the cake .

So not all of us are like the op paints us .

There are plenty like us who are happy with who we are , and just as importantly , happy with who you are .

"

Having see you both in the flesh, you'd be this bi curious guys dream meet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I found a club s great place to start. If you arrange to meet there can be some perceived pressure. In a club, a shake of the head and they move on.

I don't think I'd ever play in a club. We spoke about clubs like cj's last night and I'm intrested in the social side but I can't see me ever having sex with a audience.

Not that I'm bigheaded enough to think everyone would want to watch me I just don't feel comfortable knowing they could. Xx"

You do know they have lockable private rooms to play in? You can take a guy to one and no one can see what you do.

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By *ripleXrateDWoman
over a year ago

Ayrshire


"I found a club s great place to start. If you arrange to meet there can be some perceived pressure. In a club, a shake of the head and they move on.

I don't think I'd ever play in a club. We spoke about clubs like cj's last night and I'm intrested in the social side but I can't see me ever having sex with a audience.

Not that I'm bigheaded enough to think everyone would want to watch me I just don't feel comfortable knowing they could. Xx

You do know they have lockable private rooms to play in? You can take a guy to one and no one can see what you do. "

I didn't know that. Although only sort of local one to me is cj's in Glasgow. Does anyone know if they have them there xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They think because the male of the couple is so damn hot and irresistible that the bi player is going to ignore the woman and pounce on the male.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I found a club s great place to start. If you arrange to meet there can be some perceived pressure. In a club, a shake of the head and they move on.

I don't think I'd ever play in a club. We spoke about clubs like cj's last night and I'm intrested in the social side but I can't see me ever having sex with a audience.

Not that I'm bigheaded enough to think everyone would want to watch me I just don't feel comfortable knowing they could. Xx

You do know they have lockable private rooms to play in? You can take a guy to one and no one can see what you do.

I didn't know that. Although only sort of local one to me is cj's in Glasgow. Does anyone know if they have them there xx"

I'd check their website or call them. Many clubs do bi nights.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS "

How is the risk higher?? Oh I get it all bi guys enjoy penetrative sex... guess I can't be bi then oh well better change profile to straight with a hint of oral, masturbation and cock play does that come as an option??

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By *ripleXrateDWoman
over a year ago

Ayrshire

The only risk of aids is if your foolish enough not to protected yourself not what gender you have sex with xx

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

I'm still non-the-wiser about what's going on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only risk of aids is if your foolish enough not to protected yourself not what gender you have sex with xx"

Couldn't agree more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So could anyone please explain why 50% of diagnosed cases of HIV are of bisexual or gay men? And the old chestnut of because they get tested more regularly is nonsense when HIV/AIDS has been around for more than 30 years now. These figures will never improve while people are in denial

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

I think it was explained previously, on here or another thread, that bi or gay men are more likely to get tested, more aware, etc - so it may be that many undiagnosed cases amongst the 'straight' community as they think its only bi and gay men who get it.

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By *ripleXrateDWoman
over a year ago

Ayrshire

If you wear make him wear protection your risk I'd very low. Yes bi gay guys may or may not have aids but so can single women.

The reason bi/gay guys have the aids tag is because they sterotypicaly live a swinging lifestyle, pretty much like yourself. Xx

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By *ripleXrateDWoman
over a year ago

Ayrshire

P.s if the gay/bi community make up 50% if infections then doesn't that mean the other 50% of infections are the straight community?

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By *uddy and hollyCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"We used to be like those who you speak of .

Infact it was not until we had been swinging for a couple of years that we realised we were missing out on so much more fun by avoiding bi guys and TVs / CDs and Transgender people .

Over the past few months we have well and truly embraced all of the above , and our journey has taken us to places we didn't think existed !

The liberated feeling we have now , the euphoria of a new experience , and the lack of judgement we place on anyone is like the icing on the cake .

So not all of us are like the op paints us .

There are plenty like us who are happy with who we are , and just as importantly , happy with who you are .

"
like wise

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By *raceytvcdTV/TS
over a year ago

mansfield

Play safe and get tested regular

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By *i mandzCouple
over a year ago

luton


"yes when we meet bi guys we feel so much relaxed......before we started swinging never thought i be with a guy especially with mandy.....

Tvs cds bi guys we love them now...im even bi now....

Mandy loves using her strap on...on a guy ...and a lady too.....

So much inhibiting fun.....so much touching kissing sucking licking .....mmmmmm

We used to be like those who you speak of .

Infact it was not until we had been swinging for a couple of years that we realised we were missing out on so much more fun by avoiding bi guys and TVs / CDs and Transgender people .

Over the past few months we have well and truly embraced all of the above , and our journey has taken us to places we didn't think existed !

The liberated feeling we have now , the euphoria of a new experience , and the lack of judgement we place on anyone is like the icing on the cake .

So not all of us are like the op paints us .

There are plenty like us who are happy with who we are , and just as importantly , happy with who you are .

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"P.s if the gay/bi community make up 50% if infections then doesn't that mean the other 50% of infections are the straight community?"

I think the argument being put forward is that the number (50%) is quite large given that gay/bi community make up a small percentage of the population.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

turn off i understand but aids ?? mmm think the risk for that is everywhere not just bi men also have you ever given thought that you most probly have played with a bi guy already as most bi guys say the are str8 ?? if its a fear of aids then guess your in the wrong sport

I agree with the poster, I think HIV will be one of the main reasons why. That and the fact that a lot of straight men aren't comfortable with it.

Yes there are risks in however you play but it's a fact, statistically bi sexual men are in a higher risk category.

That said, I think it's too broad a statement. For instance someone who has embraced their bi side all their life may be higher risk than say a male who enjoys it during swinging with his partner.

When all said and done I'm a big believer in doing what feels right at the time, take responsibility for your own sexual health and then you know where you stand.

But to the op - some will use the above as a way of being responsible and managing their own risk. Which you can't criticise.

DThink this statistic from the Terence Higgins Trust may interest you.x

Around 43,500 gay and bisexual men and around 59,000 heterosexuals were estimated to be living with HIV in the UK by the end of 2013.

Shame it does not break the Heterosexual data down by sex. "
Dont see how that would be revelant- just proves data is guesswork, surely.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Yes please to bi men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are some of us that are genuine... but don't want to jump on every cock I see.

Come get me girls n bi couples

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"So could anyone please explain why 50% of diagnosed cases of HIV are of bisexual or gay men? And the old chestnut of because they get tested more regularly is nonsense when HIV/AIDS has been around for more than 30 years now. These figures will never improve while people are in denial"

Figures are guess work, like all statistics, they do not reflect reality. Look at claims on things such as skin cream- 89% of 670 people see a 90% reduction in spots- if you lead your life based on statistics, I can see a whole bundle of trouble for you, lol. Just use common sense- as recommended by nature. .x

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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago

Shrewsbury

As I bi woman I see no issues.. I wouldn't play with a straight woman if we'd discussed what we wanted before a meet. So I don't get if we are all being honest what the issue is.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham


"P.s if the gay/bi community make up 50% if infections then doesn't that mean the other 50% of infections are the straight community?"
well said.lol.x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So could anyone please explain why 50% of diagnosed cases of HIV are of bisexual or gay men? And the old chestnut of because they get tested more regularly is nonsense when HIV/AIDS has been around for more than 30 years now. These figures will never improve while people are in denial"

LOL! And the other 50% are?????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"P.s if the gay/bi community make up 50% if infections then doesn't that mean the other 50% of infections are the straight community?well said.lol.x"

I see you got that one in before me.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"So could anyone please explain why 50% of diagnosed cases of HIV are of bisexual or gay men? And the old chestnut of because they get tested more regularly is nonsense when HIV/AIDS has been around for more than 30 years now. These figures will never improve while people are in denial

LOL! And the other 50% are?????

"

Is it the badgers, the grey squirrels? Who else is being culled?

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By *ripleXrateDWoman
over a year ago

Ayrshire


"P.s if the gay/bi community make up 50% if infections then doesn't that mean the other 50% of infections are the straight community?well said.lol.x

I see you got that one in before me.

"

A woman should always cum first lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sex Olympics. .. I never win any medals !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"P.s if the gay/bi community make up 50% if infections then doesn't that mean the other 50% of infections are the straight community?

I think the argument being put forward is that the number (50%) is quite large given that gay/bi community make up a small percentage of the population."

It all depends on what percentage of people get tested though.

If 1,000,000 gay/ bi men get tested and only 50 straight men, then that means 100% of the straight men tested are infected.

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By *moothies.Couple
over a year ago

Woodthorpe

I'm comfortably bi, but wouldn't dream of forcing myself on a straight guy anymore than I would force a woman to do anything she didn't want to either.

I also understand that there is a potentially higher risk of STDs, but there's also a higher risk of getting hit by lightening if I go outside my front door, than if I stay in. But where's the fun in that?

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By *ripleXrateDWoman
over a year ago

Ayrshire


"I'm comfortably bi, but wouldn't dream of forcing myself on a straight guy anymore than I would force a woman to do anything she didn't want to either.

I also understand that there is a potentially higher risk of STDs, but there's also a higher risk of getting hit by lightening if I go outside my front door, than if I stay in. But where's the fun in that? "

With aids though a condom works as good protection. Can't see a condom protecting you from lightning lol xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For goodness sake. So a lot of straight people have been living with the conditon with no symptons for 30 years??

Its nothing to do with the number who get tested.

And these are official figures, not some made up shampoo survey

And do people here really think that 50% of the population are gay or bisexual men???

Maybe 10% of the population, if that, make up 50% of the cases!

As I said so long as people ignore this or try to deny it things will never improve

Good night

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"I'm comfortably bi, but wouldn't dream of forcing myself on a straight guy anymore than I would force a woman to do anything she didn't want to either.

I also understand that there is a potentially higher risk of STDs, but there's also a higher risk of getting hit by lightening if I go outside my front door, than if I stay in. But where's the fun in that?

With aids though a condom works as good protection. Can't see a condom protecting you from lightning lol xx"

Not even one made out of glass wool?

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By *moothies.Couple
over a year ago

Woodthorpe


"I'm comfortably bi, but wouldn't dream of forcing myself on a straight guy anymore than I would force a woman to do anything she didn't want to either.

I also understand that there is a potentially higher risk of STDs, but there's also a higher risk of getting hit by lightening if I go outside my front door, than if I stay in. But where's the fun in that?

With aids though a condom works as good protection. Can't see a condom protecting you from lightning lol xx

Not even one made out of glass wool?"

What if I wore it on my feet to insulate me from the ground?

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"I'm comfortably bi, but wouldn't dream of forcing myself on a straight guy anymore than I would force a woman to do anything she didn't want to either.

I also understand that there is a potentially higher risk of STDs, but there's also a higher risk of getting hit by lightening if I go outside my front door, than if I stay in. But where's the fun in that?

With aids though a condom works as good protection. Can't see a condom protecting you from lightning lol xx

Not even one made out of glass wool?

What if I wore it on my feet to insulate me from the ground? "

That'll work

But then you'll die of HIV

Can't win

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By *moothies.Couple
over a year ago

Woodthorpe


"I'm comfortably bi, but wouldn't dream of forcing myself on a straight guy anymore than I would force a woman to do anything she didn't want to either.

I also understand that there is a potentially higher risk of STDs, but there's also a higher risk of getting hit by lightening if I go outside my front door, than if I stay in. But where's the fun in that?

With aids though a condom works as good protection. Can't see a condom protecting you from lightning lol xx

Not even one made out of glass wool?

What if I wore it on my feet to insulate me from the ground?

That'll work

But then you'll die of HIV

Can't win "

Bugger!!!!

If I only had 1 condom left, would I protect myself from lightning or HIV? Decisions, decisions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For goodness sake. So a lot of straight people have been living with the conditon with no symptons for 30 years??

Its nothing to do with the number who get tested.

And these are official figures, not some made up shampoo survey

And do people here really think that 50% of the population are gay or bisexual men???

Maybe 10% of the population, if that, make up 50% of the cases!

As I said so long as people ignore this or try to deny it things will never improve

Good night"

It all depends on what percentage of people get tested though.

If 1,000,000 gay/ bi men get tested and only 50 straight men, then that means 100% of the straight men tested are infected.

110% of all statistics are utter bollocks.

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By *ripleXrateDWoman
over a year ago

Ayrshire


"For goodness sake. So a lot of straight people have been living with the conditon with no symptons for 30 years??

Its nothing to do with the number who get tested.

And these are official figures, not some made up shampoo survey

And do people here really think that 50% of the population are gay or bisexual men???

Maybe 10% of the population, if that, make up 50% of the cases!

As I said so long as people ignore this or try to deny it things will never improve

Good night"

Statistics don't give you aids people do gay or straight.it only takes being careless once. If you protect yourself your pretty safe regardless of gender.

Do you check any females you meets sexual history to see if they have ever slept with a bi guy?

Your just as at risk as the rest of us xx

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"For goodness sake. So a lot of straight people have been living with the conditon with no symptons for 30 years??

Its nothing to do with the number who get tested.

And these are official figures, not some made up shampoo survey

And do people here really think that 50% of the population are gay or bisexual men???

Maybe 10% of the population, if that, make up 50% of the cases!

As I said so long as people ignore this or try to deny it things will never improve

Good night

It all depends on what percentage of people get tested though.

If 1,000,000 gay/ bi men get tested and only 50 straight men, then that means 100% of the straight men tested are infected.

110% of all statistics are utter bollocks.

"

I would have thought that was closer to 130%

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For goodness sake. So a lot of straight people have been living with the conditon with no symptons for 30 years??

Its nothing to do with the number who get tested.

And these are official figures, not some made up shampoo survey

And do people here really think that 50% of the population are gay or bisexual men???

Maybe 10% of the population, if that, make up 50% of the cases!

As I said so long as people ignore this or try to deny it things will never improve

Good night

It all depends on what percentage of people get tested though.

If 1,000,000 gay/ bi men get tested and only 50 straight men, then that means 100% of the straight men tested are infected.

110% of all statistics are utter bollocks.

"

Take it maths isn't your strong point. So basically what you are saying is don't get tested and you won't have the disease. Brilliant. Straight people can carry on their lives with no symptoms or illmess and be just fine?

Don't know what all the fuss is about then eh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a bi man. I get turned down a lot because of it. Just because I'm bi doesn't mean I'm going to assume I can play with both parties. I'm respectful and open to everything lol

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"

Just to point out that thrush isn't actually an STI... it can be sexually transmitted if you have sexual contact before the symptoms clear up but it ISN'T an STI. It's actually caused by factors such as antibiotics, diabetes & pregnancy, and people who have never even had sex can get the infection too. Lumping thrush together with actual STIs like AIDs, gonorrhea, chlamydia and so on is ridiculous. "

You do realise you don't have to have sex to catch hiv/aids don't you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For goodness sake. So a lot of straight people have been living with the conditon with no symptons for 30 years??

Its nothing to do with the number who get tested.

And these are official figures, not some made up shampoo survey

And do people here really think that 50% of the population are gay or bisexual men???

Maybe 10% of the population, if that, make up 50% of the cases!

As I said so long as people ignore this or try to deny it things will never improve

Good night

It all depends on what percentage of people get tested though.

If 1,000,000 gay/ bi men get tested and only 50 straight men, then that means 100% of the straight men tested are infected.

110% of all statistics are utter bollocks.

Take it maths isn't your strong point. So basically what you are saying is don't get tested and you won't have the disease. Brilliant. Straight people can carry on their lives with no symptoms or illmess and be just fine?

Don't know what all the fuss is about then eh "

Of course not. I'm saying the statistics are only about the people that get tested. There could be millions of straight people out there that don't know they are infected.

Hence why the statistics are meaningless. They will never give a true picture.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Another set of numbers to look at:

Total male population in UK: 31,793,600

Estimate of men who have sex with men: 2-3% of total population (794,840)

Estimate of men who have sex with men and have been diagnosed with HIV: 43,500

Percentage of men who sleep with men and have been diagnosed with HIV: 5.5%

As mentioned earlier, fun can be had, pleasure can be explored and cocks can be played with in a safe and responsible manner...

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"Statistics don't give you aids people do"

And rabbits

(Which is why they suggest using condoms on sex-toys - I'm sure someone wrote a song about it)

Oh, and ignorance.

I'm pretty sure that came up in the first ever public information film.

Some people like to reduce their risk by using protection, others by reducing sex with those they perceive as high-risk. I don't understand why they shouldn't be allowed to live their lives however they choose.

And aren't the biggest groups tested pregnant women and those who give blood (100%)

Have you read the info on the Terrance Higgins Trust website that I suggested?

Mr.ddc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For goodness sake. So a lot of straight people have been living with the conditon with no symptons for 30 years??

Its nothing to do with the number who get tested.

And these are official figures, not some made up shampoo survey

And do people here really think that 50% of the population are gay or bisexual men???

Maybe 10% of the population, if that, make up 50% of the cases!

As I said so long as people ignore this or try to deny it things will never improve

Good night

It all depends on what percentage of people get tested though.

If 1,000,000 gay/ bi men get tested and only 50 straight men, then that means 100% of the straight men tested are infected.

110% of all statistics are utter bollocks.

Take it maths isn't your strong point. So basically what you are saying is don't get tested and you won't have the disease. Brilliant. Straight people can carry on their lives with no symptoms or illmess and be just fine?

Don't know what all the fuss is about then eh

Of course not. I'm saying the statistics are only about the people that get tested. There could be millions of straight people out there that don't know they are infected.

Hence why the statistics are meaningless. They will never give a true picture. "

But the statistics are the same for people living with the disease not just the number that get tested. How long do you think it would be before all these millions of straight people out there who do not know they are infected find out that they are infected.? Or have they all become infected recently? Considering the disease has been around for 30-40 years,shouldnt the numbers be more even by now then?

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman
over a year ago

kinky land


"Apart from the thought and sight of 2 guys together which is a turn off for us there is the increased risk of AIDS

turn off i understand but aids ?? mmm think the risk for that is everywhere not just bi men also have you ever given thought that you most probly have played with a bi guy already as most bi guys say the are str8 ?? if its a fear of aids then guess your in the wrong sport

It may be everywhere but have you not seen the new number/percentage of cases involving gay/bisexual men? Nothing wrong with trying to minimise the risk is there?"

You are surprised at the number?? I'd wager 80% of those bi men state straight on their profile.

It's a big brush & lots of tar but only a small group.

Individuals not label types are more or less careful with their health

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By *ub_leitrim_guyMan
over a year ago

Out in the sticks

Some guys have "Straight" on their profile, lying and hoping to get meets BUT then display verifications from the guys they had sex with,

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