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"What I can see is situation when straight guys looking for T-Girl/ TS. Why they looking for someone who has a cock? This person for me still a man if not why he still keeping cock? What do you think about it? " I think many people have many opinion and many of those opinions veer widely from one another...... | |||
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"What I can see is situation when straight guys looking for T-Girl/ TS. Why they looking for someone who has a cock? This person for me still a man if not why he still keeping cock? What do you think about it? " I'd say Don't be an old school and live with time. Learn to have an open mind and be respectful of others around you. You can't help who you are attracted to regardless of anything or sexuality. People who have a narrow mind live a life that is determined by what Society thinks is right. Again back to your question, I hate to give labels but I would best describe the person as "Open Minded". | |||
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"What I can see is situation when straight guys looking for T-Girl/ TS. Why they looking for someone who has a cock? This person for me still a man if not why he still keeping cock? What do you think about it? " I think that if you're looking for neither men or trans people however they identify themselves what difference does it make to you how they conduct themselves? How exactly does it affect your experience here? | |||
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"Clearly a man having sex with a man regardless of what they are wearing is NOT straight. If we say a straight guy looking for tv's we block them as we dont like liars " | |||
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"What I can see is situation when straight guys looking for T-Girl/ TS. Why they looking for someone who has a cock? This person for me still a man if not why he still keeping cock? What do you think about it? I think that if you're looking for neither men or trans people however they identify themselves what difference does it make to you how they conduct themselves? How exactly does it affect your experience here?" Exactly. Look don't touch | |||
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"What I can see is situation when straight guys looking for T-Girl/ TS. Why they looking for someone who has a cock? This person for me still a man if not why he still keeping cock? What do you think about it? " It always seems to be straight guys who are asking questions about tgirls.... I've answered this same question on another thread just yesterday but here's today's; My bf, for example, saw me. Fancied me. Showed and interest in me. Showed no interest in what's between my legs. He saw a girl he fancied and told her. He didn't look for a tgirl and select me he simply looked for someone he found attractive. The law recognises that genitalia don't define gender. I personally feel gender fluid. As a girl I'm completely disconnected from my bits. There's a lot more to my femininity than what a photograph can capture. | |||
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"What I can see is situation when straight guys looking for T-Girl/ TS. Why they looking for someone who has a cock? This person for me still a man if not why he still keeping cock? What do you think about it? It always seems to be straight guys who are asking questions about tgirls.... I've answered this same question on another thread just yesterday but here's today's; My bf, for example, saw me. Fancied me. Showed and interest in me. Showed no interest in what's between my legs. He saw a girl he fancied and told her. He didn't look for a tgirl and select me he simply looked for someone he found attractive. The law recognises that genitalia don't define gender. I personally feel gender fluid. As a girl I'm completely disconnected from my bits. There's a lot more to my femininity than what a photograph can capture. " mr D love me to peg him i like it to but it dnt mean his gay and wants a man to do it x | |||
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"What I can see is situation when straight guys looking for T-Girl/ TS. Why they looking for someone who has a cock? This person for me still a man if not why he still keeping cock? What do you think about it? It always seems to be straight guys who are asking questions about tgirls.... I've answered this same question on another thread just yesterday but here's today's; My bf, for example, saw me. Fancied me. Showed and interest in me. Showed no interest in what's between my legs. He saw a girl he fancied and told her. He didn't look for a tgirl and select me he simply looked for someone he found attractive. The law recognises that genitalia don't define gender. I personally feel gender fluid. As a girl I'm completely disconnected from my bits. There's a lot more to my femininity than what a photograph can capture. mr D love me to peg him i like it to but it dnt mean his gay and wants a man to do it x" I never use mine on men. Ever. As Rachael I get quite offended if I'm refered to as a man. As Rich I actually still struggle and refer to myself as a person rather than a gender specific. | |||
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"I think if a "Straight guy" is respectful enough to include TS/TG in his profile looking to meet selection, then the only person whose opinion really matters is the person who is willing to meet him.... " | |||
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"Clearly a man having sex with a man regardless of what they are wearing is NOT straight. If we say a straight guy looking for tv's we block them as we dont like liars " | |||
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"What I can see is situation when straight guys looking for T-Girl/ TS. Why they looking for someone who has a cock? This person for me still a man if not why he still keeping cock? What do you think about it? " Because t girls are so attractive and in our experience way more liberated and open | |||
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"I think if a "Straight guy" is respectful enough to include TS/TG in his profile looking to meet selection, then the only person whose opinion really matters is the person who is willing to meet him.... " Well said. | |||
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"I think if a "Straight guy" is respectful enough to include TS/TG in his profile looking to meet selection, then the only person whose opinion really matters is the person who is willing to meet him.... Xxx " | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. " Transgender post op could argue they are not. But Im sorry putting on a dress and wig does NOT make you a women. What the person wants to identify as is entirely up to them. But a guy having having anal sex with somebody who cannot have vaginal sex because they have a penis and testicles is NOT straight he is in the very least bi. He is having homosexual sex. You can butter it up with all the politically correct cream you like but thats reality!! | |||
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"What I can see is situation when straight guys looking for T-Girl/ TS. Why they looking for someone who has a cock? This person for me still a man if not why he still keeping cock? What do you think about it? " Because the apparently straight person possibly feels the need to be discreet and thus not advertise their desire for a LGBT encounter. Further, some of us enjoy just socialising and playing as a woman rather than it being our life. Illusions and fantasy's are all about fun, for me at least. | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. Transgender post op could argue they are not. But Im sorry putting on a dress and wig does NOT make you a women. What the person wants to identify as is entirely up to them. But a guy having having anal sex with somebody who cannot have vaginal sex because they have a penis and testicles is NOT straight he is in the very least bi. He is having homosexual sex. You can butter it up with all the politically correct cream you like but thats reality!! " It's nothing to do with political correctness (and I'm at a loss as to how is could be). It's to do with recognising that sexuality and gender are not, as I said upthread, simple binary things. | |||
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" Transgender post op could argue they are not. But Im sorry putting on a dress and wig does NOT make you a women. " I completely agree with you here. Putting a frock and wig on doesn't make a woman. It's waaaaay more complicated than that. | |||
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"What I can see is situation when straight guys looking for T-Girl/ TS. Why they looking for someone who has a cock? This person for me still a man if not why he still keeping cock? What do you think about it? " Because the final operation still isn't perfect and can leave them unable to have sex and many other complications as well as being incredibly expensive many choose not to do so yet. Also check lisaloves on here just a TV not a ts but I bet you fancy her lol | |||
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"People seem to get very hung up on this subject as they just see men in frocks. Transvestites. Tgirls stands for transsexual girls TS for transsexuals Transsexuals are not only male to female are also female to male. Many tv/ts, as fab lists us, are transvestites and guys who meet them are bi. There are, however, plenty of us who are so much more than a bloke in a frock. I've never spent time with anyone who's met me as Rachael, who has felt they were talking to a guy. Without fail they have all said to the contrary. Even my wife says it. She finds it a little disconcerting but is getting her head round it. " You seem very adamant about strictly defining these terms however tgirls is widely used term amongst transvestites as much as ts. Tbh I think it's far more applicable to TVs than ts as you know you just tend to call them girls. | |||
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"What I can see is situation when straight guys looking for T-Girl/ TS. Why they looking for someone who has a cock? This person for me still a man if not why he still keeping cock? What do you think about it? Because t girls are so attractive and in our experience way more liberated and open " Also usually pretty good at taking rough anal | |||
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"People seem to get very hung up on this subject as they just see men in frocks. Transvestites. Tgirls stands for transsexual girls TS for transsexuals Transsexuals are not only male to female are also female to male. Many tv/ts, as fab lists us, are transvestites and guys who meet them are bi. There are, however, plenty of us who are so much more than a bloke in a frock. I've never spent time with anyone who's met me as Rachael, who has felt they were talking to a guy. Without fail they have all said to the contrary. Even my wife says it. She finds it a little disconcerting but is getting her head round it. You seem very adamant about strictly defining these terms however tgirls is widely used term amongst transvestites as much as ts. Tbh I think it's far more applicable to TVs than ts as you know you just tend to call them girls." I'm just trying to explain the differences, as I see them. Agreed; many tv's call themselves tgirls too. I suspect because the word 'transvestite' is a bit rocky horror. | |||
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"I'm just trying to help those who only see men in frocks and wigs as men in frocks and wigs understand that not all of them are men in frocks and wigs. See? " Interestingly I know TS who are undeniably women when you talk to them who refer to themselves as a guy in a dress. I seriously gave up with all the names and I just go by their prefered gender life is a million times easier. | |||
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"Apologies for my lack of punctuation. I'm tired!" Figured out Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo yet? :p The key is in the capitalisation | |||
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"Apologies for my lack of punctuation. I'm tired! Figured out Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo yet? :p The key is in the capitalisation " Yes. Thank you. 'Beyond language'. I hide my intellectual depth well. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 20/10/15 13:00:07]" Why do you have it "on your profile as searching for one when in reality you're not" that seems a very odd stance to take Ohh and now you've delted it | |||
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"Apologies for my lack of punctuation. I'm tired! Figured out Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo yet? :p The key is in the capitalisation Yes. Thank you. 'Beyond language'. I hide my intellectual depth well. " Is repeating someone else's work classed as depth? Cause i got the sentence from a captioned picture of a pokemon. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 20/10/15 13:00:07] Why do you have it "on your profile as searching for one when in reality you're not" that seems a very odd stance to take Ohh and now you've delted it" Why do many women on here have 'Looking for single males' when in reality they are not? | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 20/10/15 13:00:07] Why do you have it "on your profile as searching for one when in reality you're not" that seems a very odd stance to take Ohh and now you've delted it Why do many women on here have 'Looking for single males' when in reality they are not? " Because they are? But that's not answering rhe question why do YOU say you're looking to meet a TS when you're not? | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 20/10/15 13:00:07] Why do you have it "on your profile as searching for one when in reality you're not" that seems a very odd stance to take Ohh and now you've delted it Why do many women on here have 'Looking for single males' when in reality they are not? Because they are? But that's not answering rhe question why do YOU say you're looking to meet a TS when you're not?" The question is why do I need to explain myself to you? Why do I need to explain to anyone why I'm happy too chat to everyone? Only reason single males are blocked was because of the amount of messages I got from men wanting sex with me lol. Though a handful messaged me without that intent and I still chat to them about life and this site etc... | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 20/10/15 13:00:07] Why do you have it "on your profile as searching for one when in reality you're not" that seems a very odd stance to take Ohh and now you've delted it Why do many women on here have 'Looking for single males' when in reality they are not? Because they are? But that's not answering rhe question why do YOU say you're looking to meet a TS when you're not? The question is why do I need to explain myself to you? Why do I need to explain to anyone why I'm happy too chat to everyone? Only reason single males are blocked was because of the amount of messages I got from men wanting sex with me lol. Though a handful messaged me without that intent and I still chat to them about life and this site etc..." But you don't have to block people to not have then as looking for. They're two separate lists. I'm just curious why you chose to have them as looking for when you're not other than to annoy people? | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 20/10/15 13:00:07] Why do you have it "on your profile as searching for one when in reality you're not" that seems a very odd stance to take Ohh and now you've delted it Why do many women on here have 'Looking for single males' when in reality they are not? Because they are? But that's not answering rhe question why do YOU say you're looking to meet a TS when you're not? The question is why do I need to explain myself to you? Why do I need to explain to anyone why I'm happy too chat to everyone? Only reason single males are blocked was because of the amount of messages I got from men wanting sex with me lol. Though a handful messaged me without that intent and I still chat to them about life and this site etc... But you don't have to block people to not have then as looking for. They're two separate lists. I'm just curious why you chose to have them as looking for when you're not other than to annoy people?" How is it annoying people? Do you think because its a t-girl they just want to meet for sex straight away? Can Tgirls not have normal conversations then or social meets? Lol. | |||
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"Apologies for my lack of punctuation. I'm tired! Figured out Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo yet? :p The key is in the capitalisation Yes. Thank you. 'Beyond language'. I hide my intellectual depth well. Is repeating someone else's work classed as depth? Cause i got the sentence from a captioned picture of a pokemon. " You're behind Pokemon? Quoting/referencing/ yawning, tbh on here I tend to just concentrate on entertaining myself, pretty much as you appear to be doing. | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. " , mr d is straight also but he would deffo suck the dick off a TS while i peg him | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. , mr d is straight also but he would deffo suck the dick off a TS while i peg him " Then hes not straight. Pegging is just a toy but straight guys DONT SUCK COCK!! | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. , mr d is straight also but he would deffo suck the dick off a TS while i peg him Then hes not straight. Pegging is just a toy but straight guys DONT SUCK COCK!! " You don't get to decide what other people's sexuality is. | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. , mr d is straight also but he would deffo suck the dick off a TS while i peg him Then hes not straight. Pegging is just a toy but straight guys DONT SUCK COCK!! You don't get to decide what other people's sexuality is. " No the dictionary does. Sex with opposite sex = straight Sex with same sex = homosexual Sex with both = bisexual You can.go if, but and twist shit around all you want but a man having sexual interaction with a man is not straight. | |||
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"Interesringly though; the law recognises people who still have a penis can be female. Sex between male and female, according to the dictionary, makes that straight sex. " | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. , mr d is straight also but he would deffo suck the dick off a TS while i peg him Then hes not straight. Pegging is just a toy but straight guys DONT SUCK COCK!! You don't get to decide what other people's sexuality is. No the dictionary does. Sex with opposite sex = straight Sex with same sex = homosexual Sex with both = bisexual You can.go if, but and twist shit around all you want but a man having sexual interaction with a man is not straight. " So, what about people of identify as another gender? That's what I'm talking about - what people actually identify as rather than cold reading of definitions. Definitions that are rather old fashioned. Your listing of who is gay/straight male/female or not id dangerously close to the thinking that doesn't allow trans people to use the bathroom of the sex they identify with or change the details on their passport. | |||
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"A cock is not female genitalia if a guy is sexually aroused by a cock he is not straight. Wether the person views themselves as male, female or the lesser spotted blue finch doesnt make a difference its not about them its about the guy whose aroused by their cock!!" I'm impressed by your passion on this subject. Personally, I completely agree; if you male and find a cock arousing then you are either gay or bi. However, if you have no interest whatsoever in cocks and are attracted by femininity then that all sounds a bit straight to me. | |||
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"A cock is not female genitalia if a guy is sexually aroused by a cock he is not straight. Wether the person views themselves as male, female or the lesser spotted blue finch doesnt make a difference its not about them its about the guy whose aroused by their cock!!" why do you think guys who meet "people like me" (whatever label that may be) are sexually aroused by cock?. They dont even look at it let alone touch it..and some of us dont even show it. | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. , mr d is straight also but he would deffo suck the dick off a TS while i peg him Then hes not straight. Pegging is just a toy but straight guys DONT SUCK COCK!! You don't get to decide what other people's sexuality is. No the dictionary does. Sex with opposite sex = straight Sex with same sex = homosexual Sex with both = bisexual You can.go if, but and twist shit around all you want but a man having sexual interaction with a man is not straight. So, what about people of identify as another gender? That's what I'm talking about - what people actually identify as rather than cold reading of definitions. Definitions that are rather old fashioned. Your listing of who is gay/straight male/female or not id dangerously close to the thinking that doesn't allow trans people to use the bathroom of the sex they identify with or change the details on their passport." Yet again point missed. Every single time one of these threads start the attention is always turned on wether or not ts people can call themselves a different gender. Thats not the point here. The point is about the guy looking to meet a person of any gender WHO HAS A COCK yet claiming to be straight. If you were straight you would not actively seek somebody with a cock!! | |||
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"A cock is not female genitalia if a guy is sexually aroused by a cock he is not straight. Wether the person views themselves as male, female or the lesser spotted blue finch doesnt make a difference its not about them its about the guy whose aroused by their cock!! I'm impressed by your passion on this subject. Personally, I completely agree; if you male and find a cock arousing then you are either gay or bi. However, if you have no interest whatsoever in cocks and are attracted by femininity then that all sounds a bit straight to me. " | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. , mr d is straight also but he would deffo suck the dick off a TS while i peg him Then hes not straight. Pegging is just a toy but straight guys DONT SUCK COCK!! You don't get to decide what other people's sexuality is. No the dictionary does. Sex with opposite sex = straight Sex with same sex = homosexual Sex with both = bisexual You can.go if, but and twist shit around all you want but a man having sexual interaction with a man is not straight. So, what about people of identify as another gender? That's what I'm talking about - what people actually identify as rather than cold reading of definitions. Definitions that are rather old fashioned. Your listing of who is gay/straight male/female or not id dangerously close to the thinking that doesn't allow trans people to use the bathroom of the sex they identify with or change the details on their passport. Yet again point missed. Every single time one of these threads start the attention is always turned on wether or not ts people can call themselves a different gender. Thats not the point here. The point is about the guy looking to meet a person of any gender WHO HAS A COCK yet claiming to be straight. If you were straight you would not actively seek somebody with a cock!!" You must have missed my post reference my bf. He didn't seek me out because I have a cock. He was attracted by my femininity. He has never seen or touched it and has no desire to. | |||
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"If a guy meets you in a bar and is attracted to you then realises your trans and says hey thats ok I can get past that, thats one thing. But when a guy comes on here saying Im straight but Ill fuck men if they wear a dress.... Like I said its not about the trans people its not about thier rights etc Im talking about guys actively seeking them because they know they have a cock but dont want to admit they aint straight. Liars!! I have reason for feeling strongly about liars like that but I cant go into it because Ill be banned so rather than go round and round on the politically correct bus Ill leave this alone Ive voiced my opinion. Some will agree here, some will but are too scared to say for fear of commiting fabicide and some will disagree and the world will keep on turning " And I've agreed with you on several points. If guys seek guys in frocks to soften the transition to playing with a guy because he's interested in the penis under the aforementioned frock, then he's in denial about his sexuality if he claims to be straight. | |||
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"Has anybody mentioned Asexuality! That could be the answer lol wikipadias definition of the subject is very interesting " My ex had that. Only it was more 'Eh? Sexuality?' | |||
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"What I can see is situation when straight guys looking for T-Girl/ TS. Why they looking for someone who has a cock? This person for me still a man if not why he still keeping cock? What do you think about it? Because the final operation still isn't perfect and can leave them unable to have sex and many other complications as well as being incredibly expensive many choose not to do so yet. Also check lisaloves on here just a TV not a ts but I bet you fancy her lol" To be fair lindaloves kind of rocks the boat for me. You can't argue with the fact she/he has an incredibly feminine body (apart from the obvious), in a club I would probably play even though I identify as straight. | |||
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"What I can see is situation when straight guys looking for T-Girl/ TS. Why they looking for someone who has a cock? This person for me still a man if not why he still keeping cock? What do you think about it? " Not legally a man. Nobodies business either- Are you just Trolling ? ,Don't be disrespectful, transphobia is ugly, and illegal. | |||
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"Probs because guy on guy they think is a bit gay but a chick with a dick and a cock in a frock is not classed as a man because they look fem.and tbh ive have seen ts ect looking alot hotter than quite a few fems on here x" spot on x | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. Transgender post op could argue they are not. But Im sorry putting on a dress and wig does NOT make you a women. What the person wants to identify as is entirely up to them. But a guy having having anal sex with somebody who cannot have vaginal sex because they have a penis and testicles is NOT straight he is in the very least bi. He is having homosexual sex. You can butter it up with all the politically correct cream you like but thats reality!! " There speaks the voice of ignorance and bigotory. Whatever the best brains of the 21st century think, you keep living in the 19th... and the old chestnut ' political correctness@ justifies the ignorance. | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. Transgender post op could argue they are not. But Im sorry putting on a dress and wig does NOT make you a women. What the person wants to identify as is entirely up to them. But a guy having having anal sex with somebody who cannot have vaginal sex because they have a penis and testicles is NOT straight he is in the very least bi. He is having homosexual sex. You can butter it up with all the politically correct cream you like but thats reality!! There speaks the voice of ignorance and bigotory. Whatever the best brains of the 21st century think, you keep living in the 19th... and the old chestnut ' political correctness@ justifies the ignorance." | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. , mr d is straight also but he would deffo suck the dick off a TS while i peg him Then hes not straight. Pegging is just a toy but straight guys DONT SUCK COCK!! You don't get to decide what other people's sexuality is. No the dictionary does. Sex with opposite sex = straight Sex with same sex = homosexual Sex with both = bisexual You can.go if, but and twist shit around all you want but a man having sexual interaction with a man is not straight. So, what about people of identify as another gender? That's what I'm talking about - what people actually identify as rather than cold reading of definitions. Definitions that are rather old fashioned. Your listing of who is gay/straight male/female or not id dangerously close to the thinking that doesn't allow trans people to use the bathroom of the sex they identify with or change the details on their passport. Yet again point missed. Every single time one of these threads start the attention is always turned on wether or not ts people can call themselves a different gender. Thats not the point here. The point is about the guy looking to meet a person of any gender WHO HAS A COCK yet claiming to be straight. If you were straight you would not actively seek somebody with a cock!!" You seem to be very confused- ts or tg?? they are not the same. Not the point here? there is no point. Its just another troll. Get over it.lol.x | |||
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" Its just another troll. Get over it.lol.x" Doesnt agree with you there for must be a troll that right is it? Cause I go in every thresd starting arguments right...erm no. Ok then Ive posted inflamatory comments just to get a rise....erm no. Actually I just have a difference of opinion so if you define that as a troll I suggest you look up how to define arrogance and realise not everybody thinks like you and not all who dont are bad they just dont agree | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. Transgender post op could argue they are not. But Im sorry putting on a dress and wig does NOT make you a women. What the person wants to identify as is entirely up to them. But a guy having having anal sex with somebody who cannot have vaginal sex because they have a penis and testicles is NOT straight he is in the very least bi. He is having homosexual sex. You can butter it up with all the politically correct cream you like but thats reality!! It's nothing to do with political correctness (and I'm at a loss as to how is could be). It's to do with recognising that sexuality and gender are not, as I said upthread, simple binary things. " Absolutely right. But Some folk havent the concept to think out of the box, and will need another hundred years to catch up,lol. Political correctness??? is that like ridiculing your surgeon for having a 'team ' around him to ensure that youre operation is covered as best as possible? in the 19th century they didn't need a 'team' bah ! humbug" political correctness gone mad " ( with or without the cream). .x | |||
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"A cock is not female genitalia if a guy is sexually aroused by a cock he is not straight. Wether the person views themselves as male, female or the lesser spotted blue finch doesnt make a difference its not about them its about the guy whose aroused by their cock!! I'm impressed by your passion on this subject. Personally, I completely agree; if you male and find a cock arousing then you are either gay or bi. However, if you have no interest whatsoever in cocks and are attracted by femininity then that all sounds a bit straight to me. " All I know Is a single milligram of masculinity Is the biggest put off ever for me, but the femininity side is the turn on for me and as been said earlier on this post there are some stunning ts,s Who have been on this site and other Sites I know along with the fact when they are in transition takeing meds They can go through a lot of s**t and Often do but this Increases their Femininity over time and I admire them For what they go through, while on the Same subject what is pansexual.. | |||
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"What I can see is situation when straight guys looking for T-Girl/ TS. Why they looking for someone who has a cock? This person for me still a man if not why he still keeping cock? What do you think about it? " If you see a really convincing ts, you wouldn't know, and if you fancy them you're straight because you see a woman. If you're out looking for a ts then you're still straight, just really kinky One fantasy I have is to have 3sum with a feminine looking, really hot ts. I wouldn't consider myself bi at all. Apart from the obvious one, any masculine feature i see in ts' is an instant turn off. It's probably going to stay a fantasy lol | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. Transgender post op could argue they are not. But Im sorry putting on a dress and wig does NOT make you a women. What the person wants to identify as is entirely up to them. But a guy having having anal sex with somebody who cannot have vaginal sex because they have a penis and testicles is NOT straight he is in the very least bi. He is having homosexual sex. You can butter it up with all the politically correct cream you like but thats reality!! There speaks the voice of ignorance and bigotory. Whatever the best brains of the 21st century think, you keep living in the 19th... and the old chestnut ' political correctness@ justifies the ignorance. " Some terribly old fashioned and ignorant views being aired here. | |||
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"A cock is not female genitalia if a guy is sexually aroused by a cock he is not straight. Wether the person views themselves as male, female or the lesser spotted blue finch doesnt make a difference its not about them its about the guy whose aroused by their cock!! I'm impressed by your passion on this subject. Personally, I completely agree; if you male and find a cock arousing then you are either gay or bi. However, if you have no interest whatsoever in cocks and are attracted by femininity then that all sounds a bit straight to me. All I know Is a single milligram of masculinity Is the biggest put off ever for me, but the femininity side is the turn on for me and as been said earlier on this post there are some stunning ts,s Who have been on this site and other Sites I know along with the fact when they are in transition takeing meds They can go through a lot of s**t and Often do but this Increases their Femininity over time and I admire them For what they go through, while on the Same subject what is pansexual.." When you immerse yourself in this world you also spend a lot of time looking at women in a different light. You see more clearly what makes them feminine and also some pretty masculine traits too. I've sat and watched people go by for years but now I also look at women and spot just how many of them could actually be TV's or Trans. If a milligram of masculinity were to put guys off real women then there would be an awful lot of lonely women out there! | |||
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"What I can see is situation when straight guys looking for T-Girl/ TS. Why they looking for someone who has a cock? This person for me still a man if not why he still keeping cock? What do you think about it? " I think it all banter talk when they talk about t-girls here to see if they get a bite from them, which is the same with t-girls say they like to meet straight men for fun like catch a fish in the water all banter talk nothing more which may never come true I think so it just a other way to keep the topic alive that all.. | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. , mr d is straight also but he would deffo suck the dick off a TS while i peg him Then hes not straight. Pegging is just a toy but straight guys DONT SUCK COCK!! You don't get to decide what other people's sexuality is. No the dictionary does. Sex with opposite sex = straight Sex with same sex = homosexual Sex with both = bisexual You can.go if, but and twist shit around all you want but a man having sexual interaction with a man is not straight. So, what about people of identify as another gender? That's what I'm talking about - what people actually identify as rather than cold reading of definitions. Definitions that are rather old fashioned. Your listing of who is gay/straight male/female or not id dangerously close to the thinking that doesn't allow trans people to use the bathroom of the sex they identify with or change the details on their passport. Yet again point missed. Every single time one of these threads start the attention is always turned on wether or not ts people can call themselves a different gender. Thats not the point here. The point is about the guy looking to meet a person of any gender WHO HAS A COCK yet claiming to be straight. If you were straight you would not actively seek somebody with a cock!!You seem to be very confused- ts or tg?? they are not the same. Not the point here? there is no point. Its just another troll. Get over it.lol.x" Go to doctor because is really something wrong with you. You ready reported me and my post? I don't say anything wrong about T-Girl or ts. Ok some of them are very attractive. I was just asked why straight guys want to meet with them? Ok I can understand sexy ts but tv is just man who would like to be a woman. That's all. Everyone can says what they like is not about transphobic etc. I told you go to doctor or take some pills. I can see you have some problems and you need some help. Have nice evening to all of you | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 20/10/15 13:00:07] Why do you have it "on your profile as searching for one when in reality you're not" that seems a very odd stance to take Ohh and now you've delted it Why do many women on here have 'Looking for single males' when in reality they are not? Because they are? But that's not answering rhe question why do YOU say you're looking to meet a TS when you're not? The question is why do I need to explain myself to you? Why do I need to explain to anyone why I'm happy too chat to everyone? Only reason single males are blocked was because of the amount of messages I got from men wanting sex with me lol. Though a handful messaged me without that intent and I still chat to them about life and this site etc... But you don't have to block people to not have then as looking for. They're two separate lists. I'm just curious why you chose to have them as looking for when you're not other than to annoy people? How is it annoying people? Do you think because its a t-girl they just want to meet for sex straight away? Can Tgirls not have normal conversations then or social meets? Lol. " Cause you're for some reason deliberately choosing to put yourself in the search catagory with no desire to actually meet them. Just seems a weird thing to do, then publicly say you do it then get all wound up when asked why you do it. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 20/10/15 13:00:07] Why do you have it "on your profile as searching for one when in reality you're not" that seems a very odd stance to take Ohh and now you've delted it Why do many women on here have 'Looking for single males' when in reality they are not? Because they are? But that's not answering rhe question why do YOU say you're looking to meet a TS when you're not? The question is why do I need to explain myself to you? Why do I need to explain to anyone why I'm happy too chat to everyone? Only reason single males are blocked was because of the amount of messages I got from men wanting sex with me lol. Though a handful messaged me without that intent and I still chat to them about life and this site etc... But you don't have to block people to not have then as looking for. They're two separate lists. I'm just curious why you chose to have them as looking for when you're not other than to annoy people? How is it annoying people? Do you think because its a t-girl they just want to meet for sex straight away? Can Tgirls not have normal conversations then or social meets? Lol. Cause you're for some reason deliberately choosing to put yourself in the search catagory with no desire to actually meet them. Just seems a weird thing to do, then publicly say you do it then get all wound up when asked why you do it." Who says I won't meet one? All I've stated to you is I'm not looking to have sexual contact with one. I'm quite happy to meet anyone on a social level and therefore it's not a weird thing to do and nor am I wound up. You just can't grasp the fact that people do arrange social only meets on here with anyone they choose to lol and to think any TV/TS would be annoyed that I don't want sex with them just shows your male way of thinking in that sex is a must on every meet. | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. , mr d is straight also but he would deffo suck the dick off a TS while i peg him Then hes not straight. Pegging is just a toy but straight guys DONT SUCK COCK!! You don't get to decide what other people's sexuality is. No the dictionary does. Sex with opposite sex = straight Sex with same sex = homosexual Sex with both = bisexual You can.go if, but and twist shit around all you want but a man having sexual interaction with a man is not straight. So, what about people of identify as another gender? That's what I'm talking about - what people actually identify as rather than cold reading of definitions. Definitions that are rather old fashioned. Your listing of who is gay/straight male/female or not id dangerously close to the thinking that doesn't allow trans people to use the bathroom of the sex they identify with or change the details on their passport. Yet again point missed. Every single time one of these threads start the attention is always turned on wether or not ts people can call themselves a different gender. Thats not the point here. The point is about the guy looking to meet a person of any gender WHO HAS A COCK yet claiming to be straight. If you were straight you would not actively seek somebody with a cock!!You seem to be very confused- ts or tg?? they are not the same. Not the point here? there is no point. Its just another troll. Get over it.lol.x Go to doctor because is really something wrong with you. You ready reported me and my post? I don't say anything wrong about T-Girl or ts. Ok some of them are very attractive. I was just asked why straight guys want to meet with them? Ok I can understand sexy ts but tv is just man who would like to be a woman. That's all. Everyone can says what they like is not about transphobic etc. I told you go to doctor or take some pills. I can see you have some problems and you need some help. Have nice evening to all of you " Still unsure what difference it makes to your experience here? | |||
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"I think much of this controversy can be avoided if people simply take the time to write profiles that specifically define what they offer and expect as potential swinging partners,,, Because here's the thing..... we are on a profile based swinging site,,,, " Well said | |||
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"I think much of this controversy can be avoided if people simply take the time to write profiles that specifically define what they offer and expect as potential swinging partners,,, Because here's the thing..... we are on a profile based swinging site,,,, " I agree with this! | |||
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"What I can see is situation when straight guys looking for T-Girl/ TS. Why they looking for someone who has a cock? This person for me still a man if not why he still keeping cock? What do you think about it? " Well I'm glad you got that off your chest. Hope you sleep better at night now. Good thing is, nobody gives a shit about your opinion or what you think. People like people. It's no wonder a lot of bisexual men put 'straight'on their profiles given the rather prevalent homo and transphobia that I regularly see on display from members here. | |||
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"Nice to see some open minded people commenting. For me, personally, I find TS very attractive. I think there's a difference between a hairy guy wearing women's underwear and a Tgirl who is very feminine. They're a winner for me. If sexuality was a scale 1 being straight and 10 being super gay, I'd class myself as 2. I'm not attracted to guys, but cocks don't scare me. Everyone just be aware that this is an opinion thing. It doesn't make mine right or wrong. Or yours right or wrong. I have my opinion for a reason and I appreciate you have yours. " Great explanation... I feel the same way about it. Totally not attracted to the male body, love femininity, not attracted to masculinity at all, just would not mind playing with girl with a nice cock... Hell, i even like girly panties... Screw the labels and just have fun. | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. , mr d is straight also but he would deffo suck the dick off a TS while i peg him Then hes not straight. Pegging is just a toy but straight guys DONT SUCK COCK!! You don't get to decide what other people's sexuality is. No the dictionary does. Sex with opposite sex = straight Sex with same sex = homosexual Sex with both = bisexual You can.go if, but and twist shit around all you want but a man having sexual interaction with a man is not straight. So, what about people of identify as another gender? That's what I'm talking about - what people actually identify as rather than cold reading of definitions. Definitions that are rather old fashioned. Your listing of who is gay/straight male/female or not id dangerously close to the thinking that doesn't allow trans people to use the bathroom of the sex they identify with or change the details on their passport. Yet again point missed. Every single time one of these threads start the attention is always turned on wether or not ts people can call themselves a different gender. Thats not the point here. The point is about the guy looking to meet a person of any gender WHO HAS A COCK yet claiming to be straight. If you were straight you would not actively seek somebody with a cock!!You seem to be very confused- ts or tg?? they are not the same. Not the point here? there is no point. Its just another troll. Get over it.lol.x Go to doctor because is really something wrong with you. You ready reported me and my post? I don't say anything wrong about T-Girl or ts. Ok some of them are very attractive. I was just asked why straight guys want to meet with them? Ok I can understand sexy ts but tv is just man who would like to be a woman. That's all. Everyone can says what they like is not about transphobic etc. I told you go to doctor or take some pills. I can see you have some problems and you need some help. Have nice evening to all of you " You can see that ? , and you are a doctor in.... Oh wait ! you mean you want me to take the pills you take. No thanks... They make you stupid, by all accounts . xxxx | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. , mr d is straight also but he would deffo suck the dick off a TS while i peg him Then hes not straight. Pegging is just a toy but straight guys DONT SUCK COCK!! You don't get to decide what other people's sexuality is. No the dictionary does. Sex with opposite sex = straight Sex with same sex = homosexual Sex with both = bisexual You can.go if, but and twist shit around all you want but a man having sexual interaction with a man is not straight. So, what about people of identify as another gender? That's what I'm talking about - what people actually identify as rather than cold reading of definitions. Definitions that are rather old fashioned. Your listing of who is gay/straight male/female or not id dangerously close to the thinking that doesn't allow trans people to use the bathroom of the sex they identify with or change the details on their passport. Yet again point missed. Every single time one of these threads start the attention is always turned on wether or not ts people can call themselves a different gender. Thats not the point here. The point is about the guy looking to meet a person of any gender WHO HAS A COCK yet claiming to be straight. If you were straight you would not actively seek somebody with a cock!!You seem to be very confused- ts or tg?? they are not the same. Not the point here? there is no point. Its just another troll. Get over it.lol.x Go to doctor because is really something wrong with you. You ready reported me and my post? I don't say anything wrong about T-Girl or ts. Ok some of them are very attractive. I was just asked why straight guys want to meet with them? Ok I can understand sexy ts but tv is just man who would like to be a woman. That's all. Everyone can says what they like is not about transphobic etc. I told you go to doctor or take some pills. I can see you have some problems and you need some help. Have nice evening to all of you You can see that ? , and you are a doctor in.... Oh wait ! you mean you want me to take the pills you take. No thanks... They make you stupid, by all accounts . xxxx" You still here? Buhahaha | |||
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"I'm a straight man, and I'd have no problem playing with a tgirl or TS, because, and here's the important thing some of the other men here don't seem to be able to grasp - they are not men. , mr d is straight also but he would deffo suck the dick off a TS while i peg him Then hes not straight. Pegging is just a toy but straight guys DONT SUCK COCK!! You don't get to decide what other people's sexuality is. No the dictionary does. Sex with opposite sex = straight Sex with same sex = homosexual Sex with both = bisexual You can.go if, but and twist shit around all you want but a man having sexual interaction with a man is not straight. So, what about people of identify as another gender? That's what I'm talking about - what people actually identify as rather than cold reading of definitions. Definitions that are rather old fashioned. Your listing of who is gay/straight male/female or not id dangerously close to the thinking that doesn't allow trans people to use the bathroom of the sex they identify with or change the details on their passport. Yet again point missed. Every single time one of these threads start the attention is always turned on wether or not ts people can call themselves a different gender. Thats not the point here. The point is about the guy looking to meet a person of any gender WHO HAS A COCK yet claiming to be straight. If you were straight you would not actively seek somebody with a cock!!You seem to be very confused- ts or tg?? they are not the same. Not the point here? there is no point. Its just another troll. Get over it.lol.x Go to doctor because is really something wrong with you. You ready reported me and my post? I don't say anything wrong about T-Girl or ts. Ok some of them are very attractive. I was just asked why straight guys want to meet with them? Ok I can understand sexy ts but tv is just man who would like to be a woman. That's all. Everyone can says what they like is not about transphobic etc. I told you go to doctor or take some pills. I can see you have some problems and you need some help. Have nice evening to all of you You can see that ? , and you are a doctor in.... Oh wait ! you mean you want me to take the pills you take. No thanks... They make you stupid, by all accounts . xxxx You still here? Buhahaha " Oh do grow up, so very childish. | |||
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"rachel, don't get into a flame war please. it'll do your blood pressure no good. i have several ts friends, and am very protective of them, for this very type of situation." Eh? Do you mean me? I stepped back from this one. My last two posts that I removed were just girly silliness that I though better of | |||
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"I'd rather connect will a person honest and happy with themselves over judgemental people who put others in categories every day. ... that means I'm more than comfortable with the tv/ts section of this site!" Exactly , and I am the same | |||
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"I'd rather connect will a person honest and happy with themselves over judgemental people who put others in categories every day. ... that means I'm more than comfortable with the tv/ts section of this site! Exactly , and I am the same " As a transitioning m to f , it is nice to get a bit of support. It is very hard, and your whole life changes, family ,etc. what we do not need is Idiots and bigots making it any harder. I personally have gay, lesbian, and straight friends (Who are happy to invite me round to spend time with them and their children). I welcome all folk to my hosted events, and we have a real good time , lots of laughter and banter. There are a few trolls that set up seemingly innocent posts but are designed to get transphobic comments onto the site. And no, I am not being over sensative or insane, but when faced with bigotory and hatred, I will fight back, as would any person. My life is not a joke, it is me. Unfortunately fab seem disinterested in removing these posts. xxx | |||
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"What I can see is situation when straight guys looking for T-Girl/ TS. Why they looking for someone who has a cock? This person for me still a man if not why he still keeping cock? What do you think about it? " I think you should get Trevor McDonald to do a moray pole | |||
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"I'd rather connect will a person honest and happy with themselves over judgemental people who put others in categories every day. ... that means I'm more than comfortable with the tv/ts section of this site! Exactly , and I am the same As a transitioning m to f , it is nice to get a bit of support. It is very hard, and your whole life changes, family ,etc. what we do not need is Idiots and bigots making it any harder. I personally have gay, lesbian, and straight friends (Who are happy to invite me round to spend time with them and their children). I welcome all folk to my hosted events, and we have a real good time , lots of laughter and banter. There are a few trolls that set up seemingly innocent posts but are designed to get transphobic comments onto the site. And no, I am not being over sensative or insane, but when faced with bigotory and hatred, I will fight back, as would any person. My life is not a joke, it is me. Unfortunately fab seem disinterested in removing these posts. xxx" I think you are taking it too personally. If you think people are wrong in their opinion, educate them about what people go through and the legal right to be called a woman. I think people also get confused with TV and TG | |||
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"I think its easy to take things personally, especially if you are living with some of the issues people are talking about in a flippant way. I totally feel the same way about people discussing the black man stereotypes and how they word their profiles because its something that I live with every day too .... sometimes its easy to be on the outside looking in and say it should not matter, but it does if it strikes at your very personhood. That is why such comments are under the scrutiny of the law, maybe not on fabs, but in the real world ..." I didn't say it shouldn't matter to someone personally but calling someone trolls and homophobic because they are saying what they think isn't the way to get your point across. On another site we are on there was a woman there who started a question and answer thread about her transition and answered every post with utmost honesty and even answered the "sneering" posters. It was the most informative thread I have ever read and even the "sneering" people came back and apologised at the end | |||
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