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"I have met lots 'straight' guys who don't want men but find CD/TV exciting" Same here - I get more meets from supposedly 'straight' guys than I do from 'bisexual' guys on this site.... | |||
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"Am I being a bit thick, why would a straight male want to meet mm couple or a tv/ts?" It really depends on the TV/TS. Those that are integrated into society as their destination gender - well why wouldn't you treat them that way? Decent people treat those transitioning as the gender that they are transitioning to. | |||
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"Am I being a bit thick, why would a straight male want to meet mm couple or a tv/ts?" Let them; there will still be enough left over for you  | |||
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"My biggest question is why are people obsessed with labels and how people chose to see themselves? I apply this to the continuous ponders regarding 'straight' men and those about the body type 'fabulous' "  | |||
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"My biggest question is why are people obsessed with labels and how people chose to see themselves? I apply this to the continuous ponders regarding 'straight' men and those about the body type 'fabulous' " That said if I didn't label myself "Domme" I wouldn't attract those that label themselves "sub".  | |||
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"Maybe cause it's so hard to find a woman on here! " . ouch...that doesn't sound very nice....or maybe I'm being over-sensitive.  | |||
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"Am I being a bit thick, why would a straight male want to meet mm couple or a tv/ts?" I spoke to a guy and he said it is basically like how the ancient greeks and romans treated sex. They were very honest in those pagan days. For a free man if he felt like a fuck and his wife wasnt available then he would try his concubine or female slave (a bit like a fb nowadays I dont know) if she wasnt available then it would be a guy. That is if he wasnt into prostitutes. But it all depends sometimes I have other reasons other than just sex for wanting to see someone emotional reasons etc. | |||
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"Am I being a bit thick, why would a straight male want to meet mm couple or a tv/ts? I spoke to a guy and he said it is basically like how the ancient greeks and romans treated sex. They were very honest in those pagan days. For a free man if he felt like a fuck and his wife wasnt available then he would try his concubine or female slave (a bit like a fb nowadays I dont know) if she wasnt available then it would be a guy. That is if he wasnt into prostitutes. But it all depends sometimes I have other reasons other than just sex for wanting to see someone emotional reasons etc." Actually in Greek society it was more about power. Greek 'Men' had sex with anyone who was below their status. That included women and slaves. | |||
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"My biggest question is why are people obsessed with labels and how people chose to see themselves? I apply this to the continuous ponders regarding 'straight' men and those about the body type 'fabulous' That said if I didn't label myself "Domme" I wouldn't attract those that label themselves "sub". "No issue with self labelling, just others questioning how people chose to identify themselves! For a straight guy to be looking for TV/TS maybe it's TS he is interested in, which is someone transitioning to their true gender? Furthermore some of the TV/TS girls on here look stunning and very feminine, therefore the labelling system people like to question doesn't really hold up! Anyway rant over | |||
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"Am I being a bit thick, why would a straight male want to meet mm couple or a tv/ts?" Straight men say all kinds of things. | |||
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"Am I being a bit thick, why would a straight male want to meet mm couple or a tv/ts?" we think same a man is a man whether he's dressed as a woman or not. Transgender I understand wanting to meet but TVs I dnt get at all. Xx | |||
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"Am I being a bit thick, why would a straight male want to meet mm couple or a tv/ts?" "Male" half of this couple talking here. You are being a bit thick (please don't take that wrong, I'm not trying to be insulting) Gay or straight refer to which gender you are attracted to, the opposite or the same as yourself. I am attracted to my partner as she is the most attractive woman I know. Bar none. If I was gay I would be attracted to men. And I'm not. So where my partner is concerned I am straight, as are 9 out of 10 guys who contact us. | |||
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"My biggest question is why are people obsessed with labels and how people chose to see themselves? I apply this to the continuous ponders regarding 'straight' men and those about the body type 'fabulous' " My biggest question is why if it is only a label so many guys try so hard to avoid calling themselves bi or gay? Since nobody ever casually describes themselves as gay then it suggests to me that is is definitely NOT just a label. | |||
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"Am I being a bit thick, why would a straight male want to meet mm couple or a tv/ts? "Male" half of this couple talking here. You are being a bit thick (please don't take that wrong, I'm not trying to be insulting) Gay or straight refer to which gender you are attracted to, the opposite or the same as yourself. I am attracted to my partner as she is the most attractive woman I know. Bar none. If I was gay I would be attracted to men. And I'm not. So where my partner is concerned I am straight, as are 9 out of 10 guys who contact us. " Nah if your a mm couple you aren't straight. | |||
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"Generally they put straight on their profile as they think putting Bi will decrease their chances with women " Perhaps with some women. Others like me love bisexual men. | |||
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"lots of bi men use straight on there profile to get lady meets but fawn all over tv's and men. im bi and proud of it. love being fucked by a thick cock" I will personally never share your sexual interests but I can only begin to imagine how tough it must be to come out of the closet and identify yourself as bi or gay. That commands respect. On the other hand for those guys who go through contortions to avoid telling the truth (even to themselves).... | |||
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"Generally they put straight on their profile as they think putting Bi will decrease their chances with women " Got no problem with bi men. They are just the same as straight men. It is not as if the bi men bring their mates along to a 'meet' | |||
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"I'm still tryin to work that one out you must be homosexual if your shagging a man's arse" So if you met her (or another ts) in a club and fucked them without knowing, would that make you gay? | |||
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"I'm not that stupid i do know the difference between male and femail ive never yet seen a man that would pass for a woman 100%" Just a thought but maybe you have. You wouldn't know, would you! E lives as a woman and once in a while you realise that someone has twigged, and they are lovely but for the most part, no one has a clue and she spends her day getting admiring comments. She is far from alone, we have a circle of friends in the same situation and when out clubbing they spend the night getting chatted up by straight guys. Unless you going to tell me they are all secretly gay. | |||
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"I'm not that stupid i do know the difference between male and femail ive never yet seen a man that would pass for a woman 100% Just a thought but maybe you have. You wouldn't know, would you! E lives as a woman and once in a while you realise that someone has twigged, and they are lovely but for the most part, no one has a clue and she spends her day getting admiring comments. She is far from alone, we have a circle of friends in the same situation and when out clubbing they spend the night getting chatted up by straight guys. Unless you going to tell me they are all secretly gay. " But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off | |||
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"I'm not that stupid i do know the difference between male and femail ive never yet seen a man that would pass for a woman 100%" OMG | |||
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"I'm not that stupid i do know the difference between male and femail ive never yet seen a man that would pass for a woman 100% Just a thought but maybe you have. You wouldn't know, would you! E lives as a woman and once in a while you realise that someone has twigged, and they are lovely but for the most part, no one has a clue and she spends her day getting admiring comments. She is far from alone, we have a circle of friends in the same situation and when out clubbing they spend the night getting chatted up by straight guys. Unless you going to tell me they are all secretly gay. But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off" Why would you be annoyed? Is there a problem with trans gender people? | |||
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"I'm not that stupid i do know the difference between male and femail ive never yet seen a man that would pass for a woman 100% Just a thought but maybe you have. You wouldn't know, would you! E lives as a woman and once in a while you realise that someone has twigged, and they are lovely but for the most part, no one has a clue and she spends her day getting admiring comments. She is far from alone, we have a circle of friends in the same situation and when out clubbing they spend the night getting chatted up by straight guys. Unless you going to tell me they are all secretly gay. But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Why would you be annoyed? Is there a problem with trans gender people? " Dicing with death really, maybe it's better to be up front rather then be found a bloody pulp. If a guy is looking for a long term relationship and wham your outed as trans well bad times can insue or the guy maybe will accept you....it's horrible to always have that shaddow but life is cruel.  | |||
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"I'm not that stupid i do know the difference between male and femail ive never yet seen a man that would pass for a woman 100%" Next time you're out, take the time to sit and people watch and see just how many women could actually be trans. There's a lot of genetic females that look quite male. If a transitioning male to female is very passable how on earth would you know when you passed her in the street? | |||
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"I'm not that stupid i do know the difference between male and femail ive never yet seen a man that would pass for a woman 100% Just a thought but maybe you have. You wouldn't know, would you! E lives as a woman and once in a while you realise that someone has twigged, and they are lovely but for the most part, no one has a clue and she spends her day getting admiring comments. She is far from alone, we have a circle of friends in the same situation and when out clubbing they spend the night getting chatted up by straight guys. Unless you going to tell me they are all secretly gay. But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Why would you be annoyed? Is there a problem with trans gender people? Dicing with death really, maybe it's better to be up front rather then be found a bloody pulp. If a guy is looking for a long term relationship and wham your outed as trans well bad times can insue or the guy maybe will accept you....it's horrible to always have that shaddow but life is cruel. "So a guy approaches a trans gender person. The first thing they should say is that they were born in the wrong body? You are kidding, right? LTR was never mentioned. | |||
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"I'm not that stupid i do know the difference between male and femail ive never yet seen a man that would pass for a woman 100% Just a thought but maybe you have. You wouldn't know, would you! E lives as a woman and once in a while you realise that someone has twigged, and they are lovely but for the most part, no one has a clue and she spends her day getting admiring comments. She is far from alone, we have a circle of friends in the same situation and when out clubbing they spend the night getting chatted up by straight guys. Unless you going to tell me they are all secretly gay. But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Why would you be annoyed? Is there a problem with trans gender people? Dicing with death really, maybe it's better to be up front rather then be found a bloody pulp. If a guy is looking for a long term relationship and wham your outed as trans well bad times can insue or the guy maybe will accept you....it's horrible to always have that shaddow but life is cruel. "I am honest. I get chatted up, bought drinks, touched up lots. Mostly I smile and decline or ask him not to touch etc. If I like a guy I always ask if he's realised I'm trans. Some apologise and leave. Some stay and want to know more, but are no longer keen. Others.... Well. Others become lovers | |||
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"I'm not that stupid i do know the difference between male and femail ive never yet seen a man that would pass for a woman 100% Just a thought but maybe you have. You wouldn't know, would you! E lives as a woman and once in a while you realise that someone has twigged, and they are lovely but for the most part, no one has a clue and she spends her day getting admiring comments. She is far from alone, we have a circle of friends in the same situation and when out clubbing they spend the night getting chatted up by straight guys. Unless you going to tell me they are all secretly gay. But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Why would you be annoyed? Is there a problem with trans gender people? " Nope not at all but as a straight male I'd be annoyed if I wasn't aware to start with that my potential meet was trans gender, that's all I'm saying. | |||
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"I'm not that stupid i do know the difference between male and femail ive never yet seen a man that would pass for a woman 100% Just a thought but maybe you have. You wouldn't know, would you! E lives as a woman and once in a while you realise that someone has twigged, and they are lovely but for the most part, no one has a clue and she spends her day getting admiring comments. She is far from alone, we have a circle of friends in the same situation and when out clubbing they spend the night getting chatted up by straight guys. Unless you going to tell me they are all secretly gay. But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Why would you be annoyed? Is there a problem with trans gender people? Nope not at all but as a straight male I'd be annoyed if I wasn't aware to start with that my potential meet was trans gender, that's all I'm saying. " They aren't talking about a meet via fab. Talk is of meeting someone on a regular night out | |||
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" But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off" Seriously!! Holy shit, you people! If it gets beyond chatting then we let the guy know. Some are cool about it, most think it's funny as hell and bring their mates over to say hello. You say you would be pissed off if you chatted up a fit bird and found they were trans? That's your problem sunshine. It's no different from finding she is unavailable through being married or any other reason. What is she supposed to do? Grow a beard just so you don't have to have a crisis over finding her attractive!!!! | |||
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"I'm not that stupid i do know the difference between male and femail ive never yet seen a man that would pass for a woman 100% Just a thought but maybe you have. You wouldn't know, would you! E lives as a woman and once in a while you realise that someone has twigged, and they are lovely but for the most part, no one has a clue and she spends her day getting admiring comments. She is far from alone, we have a circle of friends in the same situation and when out clubbing they spend the night getting chatted up by straight guys. Unless you going to tell me they are all secretly gay. But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Why would you be annoyed? Is there a problem with trans gender people? Dicing with death really, maybe it's better to be up front rather then be found a bloody pulp. If a guy is looking for a long term relationship and wham your outed as trans well bad times can insue or the guy maybe will accept you....it's horrible to always have that shaddow but life is cruel.
So a guy approaches a trans gender person. The first thing they should say is that they were born in the wrong body? You are kidding, right?
LTR was never mentioned. "Think of it this way, if a guy who didn't know a trans gender person met a guy who was very homophobic and a bit of a nutter, then found out after something happened and the guy turned psycho and beat the living snot out the woman there would be out cry (and rightly so violence isn't cool) but the whole thing could avoided with honesty. | |||
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" But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Seriously!! Holy shit, you people! If it gets beyond chatting then we let the guy know. Some are cool about it, most think it's funny as hell and bring their mates over to say hello. You say you would be pissed off if you chatted up a fit bird and found they were trans? That's your problem sunshine. It's no different from finding she is unavailable through being married or any other reason. What is she supposed to do? Grow a beard just so you don't have to have a crisis over finding her attractive!!!!" I wouldn't be pissed for being chatted up at all. I'd be pissed if I wasn't made aware before anything happens. But you never answered my question did you? You pointed out that a lot of guys chat up your other half do they still chat up after its made clear that she is trans gender. | |||
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"I'm not that stupid i do know the difference between male and femail ive never yet seen a man that would pass for a woman 100% Just a thought but maybe you have. You wouldn't know, would you! E lives as a woman and once in a while you realise that someone has twigged, and they are lovely but for the most part, no one has a clue and she spends her day getting admiring comments. She is far from alone, we have a circle of friends in the same situation and when out clubbing they spend the night getting chatted up by straight guys. Unless you going to tell me they are all secretly gay. But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Why would you be annoyed? Is there a problem with trans gender people? Dicing with death really, maybe it's better to be up front rather then be found a bloody pulp. If a guy is looking for a long term relationship and wham your outed as trans well bad times can insue or the guy maybe will accept you....it's horrible to always have that shaddow but life is cruel.
So a guy approaches a trans gender person. The first thing they should say is that they were born in the wrong body? You are kidding, right?
LTR was never mentioned.
Think of it this way, if a guy who didn't know a trans gender person met a guy who was very homophobic and a bit of a nutter, then found out after something happened and the guy turned psycho and beat the living snot out the woman there would be out cry (and rightly so violence isn't cool) but the whole thing could avoided with honesty. "Perhaps I should wear a special hat to signify that I'm bi? Or maybe gay people should wear a sign round thier neck? Perhaps Jews should wear the star of David, or an arm band to help identify them to people who aren't Jews. It's ok for black people, everyone can see the colour of their skin and discriminate against them if they want to | |||
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"I'm not that stupid i do know the difference between male and femail ive never yet seen a man that would pass for a woman 100% Just a thought but maybe you have. You wouldn't know, would you! E lives as a woman and once in a while you realise that someone has twigged, and they are lovely but for the most part, no one has a clue and she spends her day getting admiring comments. She is far from alone, we have a circle of friends in the same situation and when out clubbing they spend the night getting chatted up by straight guys. Unless you going to tell me they are all secretly gay. But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Why would you be annoyed? Is there a problem with trans gender people? Dicing with death really, maybe it's better to be up front rather then be found a bloody pulp. If a guy is looking for a long term relationship and wham your outed as trans well bad times can insue or the guy maybe will accept you....it's horrible to always have that shaddow but life is cruel.
So a guy approaches a trans gender person. The first thing they should say is that they were born in the wrong body? You are kidding, right?
LTR was never mentioned.
Think of it this way, if a guy who didn't know a trans gender person met a guy who was very homophobic and a bit of a nutter, then found out after something happened and the guy turned psycho and beat the living snot out the woman there would be out cry (and rightly so violence isn't cool) but the whole thing could avoided with honesty.
Perhaps I should wear a special hat to signify that I'm bi? Or maybe gay people should wear a sign round thier neck?
Perhaps Jews should wear the star of David, or an arm band to help identify them to people who aren't Jews. It's ok for black people, everyone can see the colour of their skin and discriminate against them if they want to "So your effectively calling me facist because I'd sooner know if someone was trans gender before I decided to play? | |||
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" But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Seriously!! Holy shit, you people! If it gets beyond chatting then we let the guy know. Some are cool about it, most think it's funny as hell and bring their mates over to say hello. You say you would be pissed off if you chatted up a fit bird and found they were trans? That's your problem sunshine. It's no different from finding she is unavailable through being married or any other reason. What is she supposed to do? Grow a beard just so you don't have to have a crisis over finding her attractive!!!!" you talk utter garbage if the guy is straight of course he would get annoyed if the person he is chatting to is not female,transgender or trying to be female the fact is they are not female it's tough but true | |||
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" But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Seriously!! Holy shit, you people! If it gets beyond chatting then we let the guy know. Some are cool about it, most think it's funny as hell and bring their mates over to say hello. You say you would be pissed off if you chatted up a fit bird and found they were trans? That's your problem sunshine. It's no different from finding she is unavailable through being married or any other reason. What is she supposed to do? Grow a beard just so you don't have to have a crisis over finding her attractive!!!! I wouldn't be pissed for being chatted up at all. I'd be pissed if I wasn't made aware before anything happens. But you never answered my question did you? You pointed out that a lot of guys chat up your other half do they still chat up after its made clear that she is trans gender. " They answer your question perfectly, "if it gets beyond chatting we let the guy know. Some are cool about it, most think it's funny as hell and bring there mates over to say hello" | |||
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"I'm not that stupid i do know the difference between male and femail ive never yet seen a man that would pass for a woman 100% Just a thought but maybe you have. You wouldn't know, would you! E lives as a woman and once in a while you realise that someone has twigged, and they are lovely but for the most part, no one has a clue and she spends her day getting admiring comments. She is far from alone, we have a circle of friends in the same situation and when out clubbing they spend the night getting chatted up by straight guys. Unless you going to tell me they are all secretly gay. But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Why would you be annoyed? Is there a problem with trans gender people? Dicing with death really, maybe it's better to be up front rather then be found a bloody pulp. If a guy is looking for a long term relationship and wham your outed as trans well bad times can insue or the guy maybe will accept you....it's horrible to always have that shaddow but life is cruel.
So a guy approaches a trans gender person. The first thing they should say is that they were born in the wrong body? You are kidding, right?
LTR was never mentioned.
Think of it this way, if a guy who didn't know a trans gender person met a guy who was very homophobic and a bit of a nutter, then found out after something happened and the guy turned psycho and beat the living snot out the woman there would be out cry (and rightly so violence isn't cool) but the whole thing could avoided with honesty.
Perhaps I should wear a special hat to signify that I'm bi? Or maybe gay people should wear a sign round thier neck?
Perhaps Jews should wear the star of David, or an arm band to help identify them to people who aren't Jews. It's ok for black people, everyone can see the colour of their skin and discriminate against them if they want to
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" I wouldn't be pissed for being chatted up at all. I'd be pissed if I wasn't made aware before anything happens. But you never answered my question did you? You pointed out that a lot of guys chat up your other half do they still chat up after its made clear that she is trans gender. " To answer you question directly, about 1 in 3 carry on chatting her up, 1 in 3 carry in the chat but in a friends basis and 1 in 3 shuffle off quietly (presumably to have some kind of a crisis) We go out clubbing a couple of times a month and E always gets chatted up but we have never had a bad reaction when letting someone know. This might be mitigated by me looking like a knuckle dragging ape though. | |||
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" But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Seriously!! Holy shit, you people! If it gets beyond chatting then we let the guy know. Some are cool about it, most think it's funny as hell and bring their mates over to say hello. You say you would be pissed off if you chatted up a fit bird and found they were trans? That's your problem sunshine. It's no different from finding she is unavailable through being married or any other reason. What is she supposed to do? Grow a beard just so you don't have to have a crisis over finding her attractive!!!! I wouldn't be pissed for being chatted up at all. I'd be pissed if I wasn't made aware before anything happens. But you never answered my question did you? You pointed out that a lot of guys chat up your other half do they still chat up after its made clear that she is trans gender. They answer your question perfectly, "if it gets beyond chatting we let the guy know. Some are cool about it, most think it's funny as hell and bring there mates over to say hello"" But his point originally was people chat his oh up and guys cannot all tell she's trans gender, is asked what happens when they find out… he hasn't answered just threw a hissy fit because I said I'd be annoyed if I didn't know before any play (he answered that bit though). | |||
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" But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Seriously!! Holy shit, you people! If it gets beyond chatting then we let the guy know. Some are cool about it, most think it's funny as hell and bring their mates over to say hello. You say you would be pissed off if you chatted up a fit bird and found they were trans? That's your problem sunshine. It's no different from finding she is unavailable through being married or any other reason. What is she supposed to do? Grow a beard just so you don't have to have a crisis over finding her attractive!!!! you talk utter garbage if the guy is straight of course he would get annoyed if the person he is chatting to is not female,transgender or trying to be female the fact is they are not female it's tough but true" They'd be annoyed that the had made the mistake, the op states that he would always be able to tell | |||
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" I wouldn't be pissed for being chatted up at all. I'd be pissed if I wasn't made aware before anything happens. But you never answered my question did you? You pointed out that a lot of guys chat up your other half do they still chat up after its made clear that she is trans gender. To answer you question directly, about 1 in 3 carry on chatting her up, 1 in 3 carry in the chat but in a friends basis and 1 in 3 shuffle off quietly (presumably to have some kind of a crisis) We go out clubbing a couple of times a month and E always gets chatted up but we have never had a bad reaction when letting someone know. This might be mitigated by me looking like a knuckle dragging ape though. That could be a reason (not that your an ape) but I'm sure many would flip if you wasn't there. I deplore any kind of violence (apart from movies) and I have no issues with anyone colour/creed/race/gender/sexual orientation. " I'll default to someone who is trans gender and can personally tell you how guys react. I'm also sure not all trans gender people go out with a bodyguard! | |||
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"Am I being a bit thick, why would a straight male want to meet mm couple or a tv/ts? I spoke to a guy and he said it is basically like how the ancient greeks and romans treated sex. They were very honest in those pagan days. For a free man if he felt like a fuck and his wife wasnt available then he would try his concubine or female slave (a bit like a fb nowadays I dont know) if she wasnt available then it would be a guy. That is if he wasnt into prostitutes. But it all depends sometimes I have other reasons other than just sex for wanting to see someone emotional reasons etc. Actually in Greek society it was more about power. Greek 'Men' had sex with anyone who was below their status. That included women and slaves." Nothing changes,eh? Is it still not about power?? The powerless get fucked..Ax | |||
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" But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Seriously!! Holy shit, you people! If it gets beyond chatting then we let the guy know. Some are cool about it, most think it's funny as hell and bring their mates over to say hello. You say you would be pissed off if you chatted up a fit bird and found they were trans? That's your problem sunshine. It's no different from finding she is unavailable through being married or any other reason. What is she supposed to do? Grow a beard just so you don't have to have a crisis over finding her attractive!!!! you talk utter garbage if the guy is straight of course he would get annoyed if the person he is chatting to is not female,transgender or trying to be female the fact is they are not female it's tough but true They'd be annoyed that the had made the mistake, the op states that he would always be able to tell" to be honest most of the time you can tell and yes i'm walking into a mine field here, but yes very few transgender/tvs look like a real woman sorry | |||
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"So what I'm gathering is that transpeople will never be allowed to leave their past behind them. No matter what surgeries they have, no matter how good hormone treatment has been for them. The first thing they must say to anyone who shows them any interest is that they weren't born as the gender they are now? You know, just in case what they used to be, that has no effect on who they are now, bothers the person showing the interest? So people are really annoyed by anyone who is transgender but not obviously so? Even if they have genitalia that matches their gender they still have to tell people about their past? Wow. No wonder so many of us commit suicide, no matter what we do we will never be allowed to leave our past behind us. The only time I agree with saying anything about what is between a person's legs is when looking for sex, for example on websites like this because it is kinda important, plus there is the added safety of being able to block people who have problems with it. When out in public that safety is gone so you tend to need to find out a little bit about the person who has shown interest to see if they are likely to take a swing for you when they find out (which some idiots do). If they appear nice then you keep talking and then bring it up, if they don't then you just make excuses and leave them. We aren't going to walk around with signs on us, why should we? What is between our legs is of no concern to you and if you find out then don't get pissed about it just be an adult and move on." life is hard and many people commite suicide not just transgender!! | |||
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I'd still say straight because your only gay or bi if you find the opposite sex attractive but it's the lady you are that's attractive. And as for mm there only there for the cock. Or women with a strap on. "Surely you have answered you own question? But same sex ,sex still makes you bi or gay in what ever context | |||
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"life is hard and many people commite suicide not just transgender!! Yes,I am well awareof that. When you are trying to just be yourself and live your own live it can be very hard and lonely. When you are trans you have that to deal with plus those who are supposed to be family and friends ganging up on you because they have a problem with a life that isn't their own. If your own loved ones choose to make life hell for you just because your sex does not match you gender and random strangers feel that their opinions are more important than the human being they are directing them at ... that's not just life being hard." there are always people worse off than you,and have a monopoly on grief and hardship, it's the way it goes it's very hard being alive is hard sometimes | |||
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"life is hard and many people commite suicide not just transgender!! Yes,I am well awareof that. When you are trying to just be yourself and live your own live it can be very hard and lonely. When you are trans you have that to deal with plus those who are supposed to be family and friends ganging up on you because they have a problem with a life that isn't their own. If your own loved ones choose to make life hell for you just because your sex does not match you gender and random strangers feel that their opinions are more important than the human being they are directing them at ... that's not just life being hard. there are always people worse off than you,and have a monopoly on grief and hardship, it's the way it goes it's very hard being alive is hard sometimes" And there is always someone happier than you so why be happy? The joys of being human, it could be so much easier but ufortunately it's not, sometimes by our own choice, sometimes we have no choice if we want to live not just exist, most of the time it's by other people's choices on what we should be doing with our own lives. | |||
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"I'm not that stupid i do know the difference between male and femail ive never yet seen a man that would pass for a woman 100% Just a thought but maybe you have. You wouldn't know, would you! E lives as a woman and once in a while you realise that someone has twigged, and they are lovely but for the most part, no one has a clue and she spends her day getting admiring comments. She is far from alone, we have a circle of friends in the same situation and when out clubbing they spend the night getting chatted up by straight guys. Unless you going to tell me they are all secretly gay. But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Why would you be annoyed? Is there a problem with trans gender people? Dicing with death really, maybe it's better to be up front rather then be found a bloody pulp. If a guy is looking for a long term relationship and wham your outed as trans well bad times can insue or the guy maybe will accept you....it's horrible to always have that shaddow but life is cruel.
So a guy approaches a trans gender person. The first thing they should say is that they were born in the wrong body? You are kidding, right?
LTR was never mentioned. "Society's rules not my own and it sucks. So would you let a guy find out after 12 months, at some point you realise yes you will never fit in society and then what...game over! One night stands can lead to people becoming haters for life or murders...tis not a game and not all will except you however well you pass. Crucify me if you wish but that is society..and yes fess up,don't get crying when you get the bad outcome. As much as a life with no gender questions would be awesome..society still needs time to evolve. | |||
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"life is hard and many people commite suicide not just transgender!! Yes,I am well awareof that. When you are trying to just be yourself and live your own live it can be very hard and lonely. When you are trans you have that to deal with plus those who are supposed to be family and friends ganging up on you because they have a problem with a life that isn't their own. If your own loved ones choose to make life hell for you just because your sex does not match you gender and random strangers feel that their opinions are more important than the human being they are directing them at ... that's not just life being hard. there are always people worse off than you,and have a monopoly on grief and hardship, it's the way it goes it's very hard being alive is hard sometimes And there is always someone happier than you so why be happy? The joys of being human, it could be so much easier but ufortunately it's not, sometimes by our own choice, sometimes we have no choice if we want to live not just exist, most of the time it's by other people's choices on what we should be doing with our own lives." very true indeed | |||
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"I'm not that stupid i do know the difference between male and femail ive never yet seen a man that would pass for a woman 100% Just a thought but maybe you have. You wouldn't know, would you! E lives as a woman and once in a while you realise that someone has twigged, and they are lovely but for the most part, no one has a clue and she spends her day getting admiring comments. She is far from alone, we have a circle of friends in the same situation and when out clubbing they spend the night getting chatted up by straight guys. Unless you going to tell me they are all secretly gay. But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Why would you be annoyed? Is there a problem with trans gender people? Dicing with death really, maybe it's better to be up front rather then be found a bloody pulp. If a guy is looking for a long term relationship and wham your outed as trans well bad times can insue or the guy maybe will accept you....it's horrible to always have that shaddow but life is cruel.
So a guy approaches a trans gender person. The first thing they should say is that they were born in the wrong body? You are kidding, right?
LTR was never mentioned.
Society's rules not my own and it sucks.
So would you let a guy find out after 12 months, at some point you realise yes you will never fit in society and then what...game over!
One night stands can lead to people becoming haters for life or murders...tis not a game and not all will except you however well you pass.
Crucify me if you wish but that is society..and yes fess up,don't get crying when you get the bad outcome.
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"Society's rules not my own and it sucks. So would you let a guy find out after 12 months, at some point you realise yes you will never fit in society and then what...game over! One night stands can lead to people becoming haters for life or murders...tis not a game and not all will except you however well you pass. Crucify me if you wish but that is society..and yes fess up,don't get crying when you get the bad outcome. As much as a life with no gender questions would be awesome..society still needs time to evolve." Most of society has evolved or is evolving and the majority of us actually do fit in fine. It's just the odd person who makes a big deal out of finding out someone is trans. I do agree with letting people know if sex is going to be envolved but when it comes to the possibilty of a relationship it depends on the people envolved as to when and how you make them aware. But even if you asked a group of transpeople what they would do the answers would be mixed, some always say upfront, some not until they feel comfortable with the person, and many other ways. You can't control others but you can control your own reaction to them, it is completely your choice to be nasty or nice about it, noone can change that, we can all only hope that people will be nice and understand that there are some people who are weary about letting others know, maybe not understand why but understand that for some that is just the way it is. | |||
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"I'm not that stupid i do know the difference between male and femail ive never yet seen a man that would pass for a woman 100% Just a thought but maybe you have. You wouldn't know, would you! E lives as a woman and once in a while you realise that someone has twigged, and they are lovely but for the most part, no one has a clue and she spends her day getting admiring comments. She is far from alone, we have a circle of friends in the same situation and when out clubbing they spend the night getting chatted up by straight guys. Unless you going to tell me they are all secretly gay. But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Why would you be annoyed? Is there a problem with trans gender people? Dicing with death really, maybe it's better to be up front rather then be found a bloody pulp. If a guy is looking for a long term relationship and wham your outed as trans well bad times can insue or the guy maybe will accept you....it's horrible to always have that shaddow but life is cruel.
So a guy approaches a trans gender person. The first thing they should say is that they were born in the wrong body? You are kidding, right?
LTR was never mentioned.
Society's rules not my own and it sucks.
So would you let a guy find out after 12 months, at some point you realise yes you will never fit in society and then what...game over!
One night stands can lead to people becoming haters for life or murders...tis not a game and not all will except you however well you pass.
Crucify me if you wish but that is society..and yes fess up,don't get crying when you get the bad outcome.
As much as a life with no gender questions would be awesome..society still needs time to evolve. exactly true "And we should let society evolve at the speed it wants to? We shouldn't challenge bigotry or say something when society is wrong? | |||
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" you talk utter garbage if the guy is straight of course he would get annoyed if the person he is chatting to is not female,transgender or trying to be female the fact is they are not female it's tough but true I'm sorry to have to break it to you sweetheart but I absolutely do not talk garbage unless your calling me a liar. We go out more weekends than not and pretty much always get chatted up. The topic of E,s gender regularly comes up as we tend to ensure it does if a guy looks like he wants to get "hands on" on the dance floor. And in spite of your insistence that it must be a problem the most negative reaction we have ever had in 3 years of being together is yours! " ooh i touched a nerve there | |||
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" you talk utter garbage if the guy is straight of course he would get annoyed if the person he is chatting to is not female,transgender or trying to be female the fact is they are not female it's tough but true I'm sorry to have to break it to you sweetheart but I absolutely do not talk garbage unless your calling me a liar. We go out more weekends than not and pretty much always get chatted up. The topic of E,s gender regularly comes up as we tend to ensure it does if a guy looks like he wants to get "hands on" on the dance floor. And in spite of your insistence that it must be a problem the most negative reaction we have ever had in 3 years of being together is yours! and i believe in santa and the tooth fairy too" At what point do administration step in? | |||
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" you talk utter garbage if the guy is straight of course he would get annoyed if the person he is chatting to is not female,transgender or trying to be female the fact is they are not female it's tough but true I'm sorry to have to break it to you sweetheart but I absolutely do not talk garbage unless your calling me a liar. We go out more weekends than not and pretty much always get chatted up. The topic of E,s gender regularly comes up as we tend to ensure it does if a guy looks like he wants to get "hands on" on the dance floor. And in spite of your insistence that it must be a problem the most negative reaction we have ever had in 3 years of being together is yours! ooh i touched a nerve there
Why wouldn't you expect someone that you're calling a liar to be annoyed?
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" you talk utter garbage if the guy is straight of course he would get annoyed if the person he is chatting to is not female,transgender or trying to be female the fact is they are not female it's tough but true I'm sorry to have to break it to you sweetheart but I absolutely do not talk garbage unless your calling me a liar. We go out more weekends than not and pretty much always get chatted up. The topic of E,s gender regularly comes up as we tend to ensure it does if a guy looks like he wants to get "hands on" on the dance floor. And in spite of your insistence that it must be a problem the most negative reaction we have ever had in 3 years of being together is yours! ooh i touched a nerve there
Why wouldn't you expect someone that you're calling a liar to be annoyed?
It's like you are goading people. Are you? i am not goading people just giving my opinion thats what the forum is for and sometimes the truth is not nice but it's still the truth!!!"I think that you are a disgusting person that needs to be educated about all sorts of things. I think that you are a waste of space and time. Just my opinion though | |||
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" you talk utter garbage if the guy is straight of course he would get annoyed if the person he is chatting to is not female,transgender or trying to be female the fact is they are not female it's tough but true I'm sorry to have to break it to you sweetheart but I absolutely do not talk garbage unless your calling me a liar. We go out more weekends than not and pretty much always get chatted up. The topic of E,s gender regularly comes up as we tend to ensure it does if a guy looks like he wants to get "hands on" on the dance floor. And in spite of your insistence that it must be a problem the most negative reaction we have ever had in 3 years of being together is yours! ooh i touched a nerve there
Why wouldn't you expect someone that you're calling a liar to be annoyed?
It's like you are goading people. Are you? i am not goading people just giving my opinion thats what the forum is for and sometimes the truth is not nice but it's still the truth!!!
I think that you are a disgusting person that needs to be educated about all sorts of things. I think that you are a waste of space and time.
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" Please direct them to the nearest spec savers,hey we got a new spec savers in my town too" I tried rising above it but I just cant 
Is the reason for your unpleasantness based on my OH being far more attractive than yourself AND being a man? That's gotta smart a bit, hasn't it!
I'm wondering if your use of unpleasant comments on TG threads is based on the desperate need to feel more femininely attractive than someone, anyone, even a guy will do!
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" Please direct them to the nearest spec savers,hey we got a new spec savers in my town too I tried rising above it but I just cant
Is the reason for your unpleasantness based on my OH being far more attractive than yourself AND being a man? That's gotta smart a bit, hasn't it!
I'm wondering if your use of unpleasant comments on TG threads is based on the desperate need to feel more femininely attractive than someone, anyone, even a guy will do!
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" Please direct them to the nearest spec savers,hey we got a new spec savers in my town too I tried rising above it but I just cant
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I'm wondering if your use of unpleasant comments on TG threads is based on the desperate need to feel more femininely attractive than someone, anyone, even a guy will do!
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I'm wondering if your use of unpleasant comments on TG threads is based on the desperate need to feel more femininely attractive than someone, anyone, even a guy will do!
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" you talk utter garbage if the guy is straight of course he would get annoyed if the person he is chatting to is not female,transgender or trying to be female the fact is they are not female it's tough but true I'm sorry to have to break it to you sweetheart but I absolutely do not talk garbage unless your calling me a liar. We go out more weekends than not and pretty much always get chatted up. The topic of E,s gender regularly comes up as we tend to ensure it does if a guy looks like he wants to get "hands on" on the dance floor. And in spite of your insistence that it must be a problem the most negative reaction we have ever had in 3 years of being together is yours! ooh i touched a nerve there
Why wouldn't you expect someone that you're calling a liar to be annoyed?
It's like you are goading people. Are you? i am not goading people just giving my opinion thats what the forum is for and sometimes the truth is not nice but it's still the truth!!!"It's not the truth. As you said; it's your opinion. I don't have a body guard with me when I'm out. I'm nowhere as beautiful as the lady in the couple you're being rude to but I too get guys and girls chat me up not realising I'm trans. I said earlier, if I'm interested in them I tell them I might not be all they thought. You seem to think we face bad reaction all the time and I'm sure it's a matter of time before I do. However, both I and the couple you're scoffing at, have so far had no one be as rude or transphobic as you're demonstrating yourself to be here. | |||
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" you talk utter garbage if the guy is straight of course he would get annoyed if the person he is chatting to is not female,transgender or trying to be female the fact is they are not female it's tough but true I'm sorry to have to break it to you sweetheart but I absolutely do not talk garbage unless your calling me a liar. We go out more weekends than not and pretty much always get chatted up. The topic of E,s gender regularly comes up as we tend to ensure it does if a guy looks like he wants to get "hands on" on the dance floor. And in spite of your insistence that it must be a problem the most negative reaction we have ever had in 3 years of being together is yours! ooh i touched a nerve there
Why wouldn't you expect someone that you're calling a liar to be annoyed?
It's like you are goading people. Are you? i am not goading people just giving my opinion thats what the forum is for and sometimes the truth is not nice but it's still the truth!!!
It's not the truth. As you said; it's your opinion.
I don't have a body guard with me when I'm out. I'm nowhere as beautiful as the lady in the couple you're being rude to but I too get guys and girls chat me up not realising I'm trans.
I said earlier, if I'm interested in them I tell them I might not be all they thought.
You seem to think we face bad reaction all the time and I'm sure it's a matter of time before I do.
However, both I and the couple you're scoffing at, have so far had no one be as rude or transphobic as you're demonstrating yourself to be here. "is that the best you can do lol it's mediocre in the extreme | |||
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" you talk utter garbage if the guy is straight of course he would get annoyed if the person he is chatting to is not female,transgender or trying to be female the fact is they are not female it's tough but true I'm sorry to have to break it to you sweetheart but I absolutely do not talk garbage unless your calling me a liar. We go out more weekends than not and pretty much always get chatted up. The topic of E,s gender regularly comes up as we tend to ensure it does if a guy looks like he wants to get "hands on" on the dance floor. And in spite of your insistence that it must be a problem the most negative reaction we have ever had in 3 years of being together is yours! ooh i touched a nerve there
Why wouldn't you expect someone that you're calling a liar to be annoyed?
It's like you are goading people. Are you? i am not goading people just giving my opinion thats what the forum is for and sometimes the truth is not nice but it's still the truth!!!
It's not the truth. As you said; it's your opinion.
I don't have a body guard with me when I'm out. I'm nowhere as beautiful as the lady in the couple you're being rude to but I too get guys and girls chat me up not realising I'm trans.
I said earlier, if I'm interested in them I tell them I might not be all they thought.
You seem to think we face bad reaction all the time and I'm sure it's a matter of time before I do.
However, both I and the couple you're scoffing at, have so far had no one be as rude or transphobic as you're demonstrating yourself to be here. is that the best you can do lol it's mediocre in the extreme "What else do you require from me other than a truthful account from a trans person? You're proven wrong. Accept it. | |||
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" you talk utter garbage if the guy is straight of course he would get annoyed if the person he is chatting to is not female,transgender or trying to be female the fact is they are not female it's tough but true I'm sorry to have to break it to you sweetheart but I absolutely do not talk garbage unless your calling me a liar. We go out more weekends than not and pretty much always get chatted up. The topic of E,s gender regularly comes up as we tend to ensure it does if a guy looks like he wants to get "hands on" on the dance floor. And in spite of your insistence that it must be a problem the most negative reaction we have ever had in 3 years of being together is yours! ooh i touched a nerve there
Why wouldn't you expect someone that you're calling a liar to be annoyed?
It's like you are goading people. Are you? i am not goading people just giving my opinion thats what the forum is for and sometimes the truth is not nice but it's still the truth!!!
It's not the truth. As you said; it's your opinion.
I don't have a body guard with me when I'm out. I'm nowhere as beautiful as the lady in the couple you're being rude to but I too get guys and girls chat me up not realising I'm trans.
I said earlier, if I'm interested in them I tell them I might not be all they thought.
You seem to think we face bad reaction all the time and I'm sure it's a matter of time before I do.
However, both I and the couple you're scoffing at, have so far had no one be as rude or transphobic as you're demonstrating yourself to be here. is that the best you can do lol it's mediocre in the extreme "i'm not transphobic as you put it i just said that most of the time i can tell when it's a man dressed up in a thong and wig compared to a real woman whats transphobic about that????  | |||
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" you talk utter garbage if the guy is straight of course he would get annoyed if the person he is chatting to is not female,transgender or trying to be female the fact is they are not female it's tough but true I'm sorry to have to break it to you sweetheart but I absolutely do not talk garbage unless your calling me a liar. We go out more weekends than not and pretty much always get chatted up. The topic of E,s gender regularly comes up as we tend to ensure it does if a guy looks like he wants to get "hands on" on the dance floor. And in spite of your insistence that it must be a problem the most negative reaction we have ever had in 3 years of being together is yours! ooh i touched a nerve there
Why wouldn't you expect someone that you're calling a liar to be annoyed?
It's like you are goading people. Are you? i am not goading people just giving my opinion thats what the forum is for and sometimes the truth is not nice but it's still the truth!!!
It's not the truth. As you said; it's your opinion.
I don't have a body guard with me when I'm out. I'm nowhere as beautiful as the lady in the couple you're being rude to but I too get guys and girls chat me up not realising I'm trans.
I said earlier, if I'm interested in them I tell them I might not be all they thought.
You seem to think we face bad reaction all the time and I'm sure it's a matter of time before I do.
However, both I and the couple you're scoffing at, have so far had no one be as rude or transphobic as you're demonstrating yourself to be here. is that the best you can do lol it's mediocre in the extreme
What else do you require from me other than a truthful account from a trans person?
You're proven wrong. Accept it. "but you look like what you are, a geezer in a dress, sorry but thats not meant to insult its just the truth | |||
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" you talk utter garbage if the guy is straight of course he would get annoyed if the person he is chatting to is not female,transgender or trying to be female the fact is they are not female it's tough but true I'm sorry to have to break it to you sweetheart but I absolutely do not talk garbage unless your calling me a liar. We go out more weekends than not and pretty much always get chatted up. The topic of E,s gender regularly comes up as we tend to ensure it does if a guy looks like he wants to get "hands on" on the dance floor. And in spite of your insistence that it must be a problem the most negative reaction we have ever had in 3 years of being together is yours! ooh i touched a nerve there
Why wouldn't you expect someone that you're calling a liar to be annoyed?
It's like you are goading people. Are you? i am not goading people just giving my opinion thats what the forum is for and sometimes the truth is not nice but it's still the truth!!!
It's not the truth. As you said; it's your opinion.
I don't have a body guard with me when I'm out. I'm nowhere as beautiful as the lady in the couple you're being rude to but I too get guys and girls chat me up not realising I'm trans.
I said earlier, if I'm interested in them I tell them I might not be all they thought.
You seem to think we face bad reaction all the time and I'm sure it's a matter of time before I do.
However, both I and the couple you're scoffing at, have so far had no one be as rude or transphobic as you're demonstrating yourself to be here. is that the best you can do lol it's mediocre in the extreme i'm not transphobic as you put it i just said that most of the time i can tell when it's a man dressed up in a thong and wig compared to a real woman whats transphobic about that???? "You, like everyone else, can spot a number of cross dressers as such with ease. There are many who pass you that you don't count in your statistics because you didn't know. It's a bit like people watching and trying to guess who has a tattoo on their arse. | |||
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" you talk utter garbage if the guy is straight of course he would get annoyed if the person he is chatting to is not female,transgender or trying to be female the fact is they are not female it's tough but true I'm sorry to have to break it to you sweetheart but I absolutely do not talk garbage unless your calling me a liar. We go out more weekends than not and pretty much always get chatted up. The topic of E,s gender regularly comes up as we tend to ensure it does if a guy looks like he wants to get "hands on" on the dance floor. And in spite of your insistence that it must be a problem the most negative reaction we have ever had in 3 years of being together is yours! ooh i touched a nerve there
Why wouldn't you expect someone that you're calling a liar to be annoyed?
It's like you are goading people. Are you? i am not goading people just giving my opinion thats what the forum is for and sometimes the truth is not nice but it's still the truth!!!
It's not the truth. As you said; it's your opinion.
I don't have a body guard with me when I'm out. I'm nowhere as beautiful as the lady in the couple you're being rude to but I too get guys and girls chat me up not realising I'm trans.
I said earlier, if I'm interested in them I tell them I might not be all they thought.
You seem to think we face bad reaction all the time and I'm sure it's a matter of time before I do.
However, both I and the couple you're scoffing at, have so far had no one be as rude or transphobic as you're demonstrating yourself to be here. is that the best you can do lol it's mediocre in the extreme i'm not transphobic as you put it i just said that most of the time i can tell when it's a man dressed up in a thong and wig compared to a real woman whats transphobic about that????
You, like everyone else, can spot a number of cross dressers as such with ease.
There are many who pass you that you don't count in your statistics because you didn't know.
It's a bit like people watching and trying to guess who has a tattoo on their arse. "of course you would say that wouldn't you lol go on being deluded if it makes you happy  | |||
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" Please direct them to the nearest spec savers,hey we got a new spec savers in my town too I tried rising above it but I just cant
Is the reason for your unpleasantness based on my OH being far more attractive than yourself AND being a man? That's gotta smart a bit, hasn't it!
I'm wondering if your use of unpleasant comments on TG threads is based on the desperate need to feel more femininely attractive than someone, anyone, even a guy will do!
Sorry to everyone else to have stooped so low but sometimes it can't be resisted.
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" you talk utter garbage if the guy is straight of course he would get annoyed if the person he is chatting to is not female,transgender or trying to be female the fact is they are not female it's tough but true I'm sorry to have to break it to you sweetheart but I absolutely do not talk garbage unless your calling me a liar. We go out more weekends than not and pretty much always get chatted up. The topic of E,s gender regularly comes up as we tend to ensure it does if a guy looks like he wants to get "hands on" on the dance floor. And in spite of your insistence that it must be a problem the most negative reaction we have ever had in 3 years of being together is yours! ooh i touched a nerve there
Why wouldn't you expect someone that you're calling a liar to be annoyed?
It's like you are goading people. Are you? i am not goading people just giving my opinion thats what the forum is for and sometimes the truth is not nice but it's still the truth!!!
It's not the truth. As you said; it's your opinion.
I don't have a body guard with me when I'm out. I'm nowhere as beautiful as the lady in the couple you're being rude to but I too get guys and girls chat me up not realising I'm trans.
I said earlier, if I'm interested in them I tell them I might not be all they thought.
You seem to think we face bad reaction all the time and I'm sure it's a matter of time before I do.
However, both I and the couple you're scoffing at, have so far had no one be as rude or transphobic as you're demonstrating yourself to be here. is that the best you can do lol it's mediocre in the extreme
What else do you require from me other than a truthful account from a trans person?
You're proven wrong. Accept it. but you look like what you are, a geezer in a dress, sorry but thats not meant to insult its just the truth "You are incredibly rude !!!! Transgender ... Look it up !! People like you make me ashamed to be a human some times . If you don't understand it then don't comment as you could really hurt someone | |||
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"I'm always amazed at why people are so interested in who other people meet. Up until recently we didn't show any veri's for meets with tv's as couples said it put them off . So to get more meets with those who were prejudiced we didn't list tv's as an interest either . Then we thought fuck it , if people are gonna be like that then we don't want to meet them anyway . So we proudly say we like meeting tv's , and if we get less meets with those who don't like it , c'est la vie , It's been so much better since we 'came out ' . " I gather that showing a veri from a tv's etc may well put some folk off both couples and singles. I'm in the same school of thinking as you guys now..If they don't like who I choose to play with then we're obviously not meant to meet..I won't loose sleep over that, there are plenty who will meet me and chances are I'll have a much better time with those people. There isn't a veri I have that I'm shy to display | |||
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" you talk utter garbage if the guy is straight of course he would get annoyed if the person he is chatting to is not female,transgender or trying to be female the fact is they are not female it's tough but true I'm sorry to have to break it to you sweetheart but I absolutely do not talk garbage unless your calling me a liar. We go out more weekends than not and pretty much always get chatted up. The topic of E,s gender regularly comes up as we tend to ensure it does if a guy looks like he wants to get "hands on" on the dance floor. And in spite of your insistence that it must be a problem the most negative reaction we have ever had in 3 years of being together is yours! ooh i touched a nerve there
Why wouldn't you expect someone that you're calling a liar to be annoyed?
It's like you are goading people. Are you? i am not goading people just giving my opinion thats what the forum is for and sometimes the truth is not nice but it's still the truth!!!
It's not the truth. As you said; it's your opinion.
I don't have a body guard with me when I'm out. I'm nowhere as beautiful as the lady in the couple you're being rude to but I too get guys and girls chat me up not realising I'm trans.
I said earlier, if I'm interested in them I tell them I might not be all they thought.
You seem to think we face bad reaction all the time and I'm sure it's a matter of time before I do.
However, both I and the couple you're scoffing at, have so far had no one be as rude or transphobic as you're demonstrating yourself to be here. is that the best you can do lol it's mediocre in the extreme
What else do you require from me other than a truthful account from a trans person?
You're proven wrong. Accept it. but you look like what you are, a geezer in a dress, sorry but thats not meant to insult its just the truth
You are incredibly rude !!!!
Transgender ... Look it up !!
People like you make me ashamed to be a human some times .
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" you talk utter garbage if the guy is straight of course he would get annoyed if the person he is chatting to is not female,transgender or trying to be female the fact is they are not female it's tough but true I'm sorry to have to break it to you sweetheart but I absolutely do not talk garbage unless your calling me a liar. We go out more weekends than not and pretty much always get chatted up. The topic of E,s gender regularly comes up as we tend to ensure it does if a guy looks like he wants to get "hands on" on the dance floor. And in spite of your insistence that it must be a problem the most negative reaction we have ever had in 3 years of being together is yours! ooh i touched a nerve there
Why wouldn't you expect someone that you're calling a liar to be annoyed?
It's like you are goading people. Are you? i am not goading people just giving my opinion thats what the forum is for and sometimes the truth is not nice but it's still the truth!!!
It's not the truth. As you said; it's your opinion.
I don't have a body guard with me when I'm out. I'm nowhere as beautiful as the lady in the couple you're being rude to but I too get guys and girls chat me up not realising I'm trans.
I said earlier, if I'm interested in them I tell them I might not be all they thought.
You seem to think we face bad reaction all the time and I'm sure it's a matter of time before I do.
However, both I and the couple you're scoffing at, have so far had no one be as rude or transphobic as you're demonstrating yourself to be here. is that the best you can do lol it's mediocre in the extreme
What else do you require from me other than a truthful account from a trans person?
You're proven wrong. Accept it. but you look like what you are, a geezer in a dress, sorry but thats not meant to insult its just the truth
You are incredibly rude !!!!
Transgender ... Look it up !!
People like you make me ashamed to be a human some times .
If you don't understand it then don't comment as you could really hurt someone oh another person with cherry blossom poisoning "the truth hurts in all its forms, i can't bend it i'm afraid it's there for all to see,that's what is getting up peoples noses | |||
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"I'm always amazed at why people are so interested in who other people meet. They're not interested really, these threads just give them a platform to spew a load of ignorant crap about trans people. yeah it's called a forum!! Why is this even something you care enough about to comment? well really it's just because i can comment
So you are literally just some nasty old bitch goading people for the fun of it? no i'd say not i'm not the one insulting people calling them nast old bitches am i but its you and your ilk that are doing the insulting
It was a opinion, I thought that is how this worked? We can say offensive things to each other and call them opinions  ok then you look like what you are a bloke in a dress "Yes, as it says on my profile, I am a bloke in a dress. However to say this to transgender people is not on. The original post was about sexuality not how people look. | |||
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"I'm not that stupid i do know the difference between male and femail ive never yet seen a man that would pass for a woman 100% Just a thought but maybe you have. You wouldn't know, would you! E lives as a woman and once in a while you realise that someone has twigged, and they are lovely but for the most part, no one has a clue and she spends her day getting admiring comments. She is far from alone, we have a circle of friends in the same situation and when out clubbing they spend the night getting chatted up by straight guys. Unless you going to tell me they are all secretly gay. But of all the guys who chat your partner up are still chatting up once it's announced that she's a trans? Or are you dupeing people into it? I know if that happened to me is be very pissed off Why would you be annoyed? Is there a problem with trans gender people? Dicing with death really, maybe it's better to be up front rather then be found a bloody pulp. If a guy is looking for a long term relationship and wham your outed as trans well bad times can insue or the guy maybe will accept you....it's horrible to always have that shaddow but life is cruel.
So a guy approaches a trans gender person. The first thing they should say is that they were born in the wrong body? You are kidding, right?
LTR was never mentioned.
Society's rules not my own and it sucks.
So would you let a guy find out after 12 months, at some point you realise yes you will never fit in society and then what...game over!
One night stands can lead to people becoming haters for life or murders...tis not a game and not all will except you however well you pass.
Crucify me if you wish but that is society..and yes fess up,don't get crying when you get the bad outcome.
As much as a life with no gender questions would be awesome..society still needs time to evolve. exactly true
And we should let society evolve at the speed it wants to? We shouldn't challenge bigotry or say something when society is wrong?
"Atm police and others involved because of hate crimes against me...even have to move house now, the past 3 years just a nightmare. Challenging society is a real headache, being part of society's greater change is very harsh and front line stuff... Acceptance...one day soon I hope for all of the gender spectrum. | |||
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"my opinion was fact as i can tell who is a man and who is not
Then your better than me cos looking at your profile pic, I'm struggling a bit sweetheart
But seriously, why so unpleasant?
You keep saying "all I said was ........."
But it's not as if you said just one thing. It's been a relentless determination to be as hurtful as you can.
Now it doesn't bother me. You seem to have read all this but not twigged that I am the "more male" half of this 2 males couple but once all you have to say back is "yeah yeah yeah" you have shown your level. "i said i can tell who is male or female that doesn't make me transphobic or a troll,i can't help it if i can tell | |||
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"my opinion was fact as i can tell who is a man and who is not
Then your better than me cos looking at your profile pic, I'm struggling a bit sweetheart
But seriously, why so unpleasant?
You keep saying "all I said was ........."
But it's not as if you said just one thing. It's been a relentless determination to be as hurtful as you can.
Now it doesn't bother me. You seem to have read all this but not twigged that I am the "more male" half of this 2 males couple but once all you have to say back is "yeah yeah yeah" you have shown your level. "if you look at the whole thread i have been insulted more in it not anyone else | |||
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" sorry but i'm 100% woman i'm sorry it must irk you so that you are not??
You're clearly not the kind of person who anyone would discuss a sensitive issue with. Interestingly empathy is usually associated with females but hey ho.
You're correct in your blunt, uneducated phobic way. I'm not 100% woman. I'm clearly not 100% male either. My femininity comes from within and those who actually know me can clearly see that.
You are obviously relying on your physical form to convince people of your claim to being female. I shan't lower myself to your level on appearance.
As for what irks me; you're not someone who I'd discuss those with as you clearly have issues of your own on that would influence your every misguided thought.
You are clearly far from being a beautiful person. "what a load of bollox that is as i'm the most sensitive person in reality | |||
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" sorry but i'm 100% woman i'm sorry it must irk you so that you are not??
You're clearly not the kind of person who anyone would discuss a sensitive issue with. Interestingly empathy is usually associated with females but hey ho.
You're correct in your blunt, uneducated phobic way. I'm not 100% woman. I'm clearly not 100% male either. My femininity comes from within and those who actually know me can clearly see that.
You are obviously relying on your physical form to convince people of your claim to being female. I shan't lower myself to your level on appearance.
As for what irks me; you're not someone who I'd discuss those with as you clearly have issues of your own on that would influence your every misguided thought.
You are clearly far from being a beautiful person. "and yes i stooped to the unkind bloke in a dress remark only after being insulted myself and you can't expect no bitchy retaliation can you? | |||
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" sorry but i'm 100% woman i'm sorry it must irk you so that you are not??
You're clearly not the kind of person who anyone would discuss a sensitive issue with. Interestingly empathy is usually associated with females but hey ho.
You're correct in your blunt, uneducated phobic way. I'm not 100% woman. I'm clearly not 100% male either. My femininity comes from within and those who actually know me can clearly see that.
You are obviously relying on your physical form to convince people of your claim to being female. I shan't lower myself to your level on appearance.
As for what irks me; you're not someone who I'd discuss those with as you clearly have issues of your own on that would influence your every misguided thought.
You are clearly far from being a beautiful person. and yes i stooped to the unkind bloke in a dress remark only after being insulted myself and you can't expect no bitchy retaliation can you?"So someone else insults you so you decide to insult me personally? How very mature of you. | |||
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"my opinion was fact as i can tell who is a man and who is not
Then your better than me cos looking at your profile pic, I'm struggling a bit sweetheart
But seriously, why so unpleasant?
You keep saying "all I said was ........."
But it's not as if you said just one thing. It's been a relentless determination to be as hurtful as you can.
Now it doesn't bother me. You seem to have read all this but not twigged that I am the "more male" half of this 2 males couple but once all you have to say back is "yeah yeah yeah" you have shown your level. i said i can tell who is male or female that doesn't make me transphobic or a troll,i can't help it if i can tell "How many trans gender people have you met? Not passed in the street, or made a short comment to, but for say an hour? | |||
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" if you look at the whole thread i have been insulted more in it not anyone else Has it not occurred to you to wonder why that is?" because i have the very nerve to utter the truth does not make me transphobic and neither does it give you the right to insult because you lose all your high ground don't you by doing thus | |||
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"my opinion was fact as i can tell who is a man and who is not
Then your better than me cos looking at your profile pic, I'm struggling a bit sweetheart
But seriously, why so unpleasant?
You keep saying "all I said was ........."
But it's not as if you said just one thing. It's been a relentless determination to be as hurtful as you can.
Now it doesn't bother me. You seem to have read all this but not twigged that I am the "more male" half of this 2 males couple but once all you have to say back is "yeah yeah yeah" you have shown your level. i said i can tell who is male or female that doesn't make me transphobic or a troll,i can't help it if i can tell
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"I'm always amazed at why people are so interested in who other people meet. They're not interested really, these threads just give them a platform to spew a load of ignorant crap about trans people. yeah it's called a forum!! Why is this even something you care enough about to comment? well really it's just because i can comment
So you are literally just some nasty old bitch goading people for the fun of it? no i'd say not i'm not the one insulting people calling them nast old bitches am i but its you and your ilk that are doing the insulting
It was a opinion, I thought that is how this worked? We can say offensive things to each other and call them opinions ok then you look like what you are a bloke in a dress
Yes, as it says on my profile, I am a bloke in a dress. However to say this to transgender people is not on. The original post was about sexuality not how people look. if you bother to look at all the thread you will find someone has said they can tell if its a man or woman and i was agreeing with them,i wasn't calling you a nasty old bitch you did the insulting"It wasn't ment to be insulting, it's just an opinion....see how that works | |||
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Me too
Just struggling with my latent bi side .... "There's alot of beautiful temptation on this thread to be fair | |||
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" sorry but i'm 100% woman i'm sorry it must irk you so that you are not??
You're clearly not the kind of person who anyone would discuss a sensitive issue with. Interestingly empathy is usually associated with females but hey ho.
You're correct in your blunt, uneducated phobic way. I'm not 100% woman. I'm clearly not 100% male either. My femininity comes from within and those who actually know me can clearly see that.
You are obviously relying on your physical form to convince people of your claim to being female. I shan't lower myself to your level on appearance.
As for what irks me; you're not someone who I'd discuss those with as you clearly have issues of your own on that would influence your every misguided thought.
You are clearly far from being a beautiful person. and yes i stooped to the unkind bloke in a dress remark only after being insulted myself and you can't expect no bitchy retaliation can you?
So someone else insults you so you decide to insult me personally? How very mature of you.
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"I'm always amazed at why people are so interested in who other people meet. They're not interested really, these threads just give them a platform to spew a load of ignorant crap about trans people. yeah it's called a forum!! Why is this even something you care enough about to comment? well really it's just because i can comment
So you are literally just some nasty old bitch goading people for the fun of it? no i'd say not i'm not the one insulting people calling them nast old bitches am i but its you and your ilk that are doing the insulting
It was a opinion, I thought that is how this worked? We can say offensive things to each other and call them opinions ok then you look like what you are a bloke in a dress
Yes, as it says on my profile, I am a bloke in a dress. However to say this to transgender people is not on. The original post was about sexuality not how people look. if you bother to look at all the thread you will find someone has said they can tell if its a man or woman and i was agreeing with them,i wasn't calling you a nasty old bitch you did the insulting
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"I'm always amazed at why people are so interested in who other people meet. They're not interested really, these threads just give them a platform to spew a load of ignorant crap about trans people. yeah it's called a forum!! Why is this even something you care enough about to comment? well really it's just because i can comment
So you are literally just some nasty old bitch goading people for the fun of it? no i'd say not i'm not the one insulting people calling them nast old bitches am i but its you and your ilk that are doing the insulting
It was a opinion, I thought that is how this worked? We can say offensive things to each other and call them opinions ok then you look like what you are a bloke in a dress
Yes, as it says on my profile, I am a bloke in a dress. However to say this to transgender people is not on. The original post was about sexuality not how people look. if you bother to look at all the thread you will find someone has said they can tell if its a man or woman and i was agreeing with them,i wasn't calling you a nasty old bitch you did the insulting
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"my opinion was fact as i can tell who is a man and who is not
Then your better than me cos looking at your profile pic, I'm struggling a bit sweetheart
But seriously, why so unpleasant?
You keep saying "all I said was ........."
But it's not as if you said just one thing. It's been a relentless determination to be as hurtful as you can.
Now it doesn't bother me. You seem to have read all this but not twigged that I am the "more male" half of this 2 males couple but once all you have to say back is "yeah yeah yeah" you have shown your level. i said i can tell who is male or female that doesn't make me transphobic or a troll,i can't help it if i can tell
How many trans gender people have you met? Not passed in the street, or made a short comment to, but for say an hour? "I'm not sure how relevant to the thread this is , but Sarah ..... Why doI have the urge to take you to a public toilet with Sabrina and unleash my bi side with you ? | |||
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"I'm always amazed at why people are so interested in who other people meet. They're not interested really, these threads just give them a platform to spew a load of ignorant crap about trans people. yeah it's called a forum!! Why is this even something you care enough about to comment? well really it's just because i can comment
So you are literally just some nasty old bitch goading people for the fun of it? no i'd say not i'm not the one insulting people calling them nast old bitches am i but its you and your ilk that are doing the insulting
It was a opinion, I thought that is how this worked? We can say offensive things to each other and call them opinions ok then you look like what you are a bloke in a dress
Yes, as it says on my profile, I am a bloke in a dress. However to say this to transgender people is not on. The original post was about sexuality not how people look. if you bother to look at all the thread you will find someone has said they can tell if its a man or woman and i was agreeing with them,i wasn't calling you a nasty old bitch you did the insulting
It wasn't ment to be insulting, it's just an opinion....see how that works you meant to insult "And so did you, just less upfront about it | |||
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" if you look at the whole thread i have been insulted more in it not anyone else Has it not occurred to you to wonder why that is? because i have the very nerve to utter the truth does not make me transphobic and neither does it give you the right to insult because you lose all your high ground don't you by doing thus" From what I can gather (not thoroughly read the whole thread) alot of the frustration is stemming from your getting your opinion mixed up with fact and insisting it's the truth...now everyone including yourself is arguing and won't come to accept the views of others and nowt gonna change by the end of the thread. But there we go | |||
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" if you look at the whole thread i have been insulted more in it not anyone else Has it not occurred to you to wonder why that is? because i have the very nerve to utter the truth does not make me transphobic and neither does it give you the right to insult because you lose all your high ground don't you by doing thus From what I can gather (not thoroughly read the whole thread) alot of the frustration is stemming from your getting your opinion mixed up with fact and insisting it's the truth...now everyone including yourself is arguing and won't come to accept the views of others and nowt gonna change by the end of the thread. But there we go " i accept peoples views i just can tell if a male or female | |||
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" because i have the very nerve to utter the truth does not make me transphobic and neither does it give you the right to insult because you lose all your high ground don't you by doing thus" For starters, I have not insulted you. And you must know that all these people have not turned on you simply for uttering the truth. That's a lame cop-out. It doesn't work that way and you know it. They have done so in this, as in other threads because you seem unable to vocalise your opinions without being offensive and insulting to others. As my mother used to say. If you can't say something nice............. | |||
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" sorry but i'm 100% woman i'm sorry it must irk you so that you are not??
You're clearly not the kind of person who anyone would discuss a sensitive issue with. Interestingly empathy is usually associated with females but hey ho.
You're correct in your blunt, uneducated phobic way. I'm not 100% woman. I'm clearly not 100% male either. My femininity comes from within and those who actually know me can clearly see that.
You are obviously relying on your physical form to convince people of your claim to being female. I shan't lower myself to your level on appearance.
As for what irks me; you're not someone who I'd discuss those with as you clearly have issues of your own on that would influence your every misguided thought.
You are clearly far from being a beautiful person. and yes i stooped to the unkind bloke in a dress remark only after being insulted myself and you can't expect no bitchy retaliation can you?
So someone else insults you so you decide to insult me personally? How very mature of you.
did you want to start a thread about maturity,no i see your point there but i was on the defensive like you are now"You missed out the apology. I've kept it away from insults. Saying I just look like a bloke in a dress after nearly 40 years of feeling the way I do and only recently accepting my femininity is about as sensitive as poking fun at a disabled person. No need. I'd accept an apology and put it behind me. | |||
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"I'm always amazed at why people are so interested in who other people meet. They're not interested really, these threads just give them a platform to spew a load of ignorant crap about trans people. yeah it's called a forum!! Why is this even something you care enough about to comment? well really it's just because i can comment
So you are literally just some nasty old bitch goading people for the fun of it? no i'd say not i'm not the one insulting people calling them nast old bitches am i but its you and your ilk that are doing the insulting
It was a opinion, I thought that is how this worked? We can say offensive things to each other and call them opinions ok then you look like what you are a bloke in a dress
Yes, as it says on my profile, I am a bloke in a dress. However to say this to transgender people is not on. The original post was about sexuality not how people look. if you bother to look at all the thread you will find someone has said they can tell if its a man or woman and i was agreeing with them,i wasn't calling you a nasty old bitch you did the insulting
It wasn't ment to be insulting, it's just an opinion....see how that works but it's water off a ducks back i could have retaliated and called you a stupid c**t but then i realized you aint got one of those
Yeah that would have been a shit insult, mine was much better "no i'm better at the insult game lol i would love to get a book of the most demeaning insults myself | |||
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" sorry but i'm 100% woman i'm sorry it must irk you so that you are not??
You're clearly not the kind of person who anyone would discuss a sensitive issue with. Interestingly empathy is usually associated with females but hey ho.
You're correct in your blunt, uneducated phobic way. I'm not 100% woman. I'm clearly not 100% male either. My femininity comes from within and those who actually know me can clearly see that.
You are obviously relying on your physical form to convince people of your claim to being female. I shan't lower myself to your level on appearance.
As for what irks me; you're not someone who I'd discuss those with as you clearly have issues of your own on that would influence your every misguided thought.
You are clearly far from being a beautiful person. and yes i stooped to the unkind bloke in a dress remark only after being insulted myself and you can't expect no bitchy retaliation can you?
So someone else insults you so you decide to insult me personally? How very mature of you.
did you want to start a thread about maturity,no i see your point there but i was on the defensive like you are now
You missed out the apology.
I've kept it away from insults. Saying I just look like a bloke in a dress after nearly 40 years of feeling the way I do and only recently accepting my femininity is about as sensitive as poking fun at a disabled person.
No need.
I'd accept an apology and put it behind me. "yes i got to hand it to you,you are insult free i think you need to be a diplomat and your diplomacy skills are very good indeed | |||
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" if you look at the whole thread i have been insulted more in it not anyone else Has it not occurred to you to wonder why that is? because i have the very nerve to utter the truth does not make me transphobic and neither does it give you the right to insult because you lose all your high ground don't you by doing thus From what I can gather (not thoroughly read the whole thread) alot of the frustration is stemming from your getting your opinion mixed up with fact and insisting it's the truth...now everyone including yourself is arguing and won't come to accept the views of others and nowt gonna change by the end of the thread. But there we go i accept peoples views i just can tell if a male or female "Unless of course they've passed you and you never noticed...In which case you'd just never know. You've noticed every single trans person that has passed you? I highly doubt that somehow. There's absolutely no way anybody on this planet knows and I guess you don't have special powers so again...opinion and fact..your mixing them up. | |||
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"I'm always amazed at why people are so interested in who other people meet. They're not interested really, these threads just give them a platform to spew a load of ignorant crap about trans people. yeah it's called a forum!! Why is this even something you care enough about to comment? well really it's just because i can comment
So you are literally just some nasty old bitch goading people for the fun of it? no i'd say not i'm not the one insulting people calling them nast old bitches am i but its you and your ilk that are doing the insulting
It was a opinion, I thought that is how this worked? We can say offensive things to each other and call them opinions ok then you look like what you are a bloke in a dress
Yes, as it says on my profile, I am a bloke in a dress. However to say this to transgender people is not on. The original post was about sexuality not how people look. if you bother to look at all the thread you will find someone has said they can tell if its a man or woman and i was agreeing with them,i wasn't calling you a nasty old bitch you did the insulting
It wasn't ment to be insulting, it's just an opinion....see how that works but it's water off a ducks back i could have retaliated and called you a stupid c**t but then i realized you aint got one of those
Yeah that would have been a shit insult, mine was much better no i'm better at the insult game lol i would love to get a book of the most demeaning insults myself "Nah you fully missed the mark with me but no doubt managed to offend any atchual transgender people. | |||
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"I'm always amazed at why people are so interested in who other people meet. They're not interested really, these threads just give them a platform to spew a load of ignorant crap about trans people. yeah it's called a forum!! Why is this even something you care enough about to comment? well really it's just because i can comment
So you are literally just some nasty old bitch goading people for the fun of it? no i'd say not i'm not the one insulting people calling them nast old bitches am i but its you and your ilk that are doing the insulting
It was a opinion, I thought that is how this worked? We can say offensive things to each other and call them opinions ok then you look like what you are a bloke in a dress
Yes, as it says on my profile, I am a bloke in a dress. However to say this to transgender people is not on. The original post was about sexuality not how people look. if you bother to look at all the thread you will find someone has said they can tell if its a man or woman and i was agreeing with them,i wasn't calling you a nasty old bitch you did the insulting
It wasn't ment to be insulting, it's just an opinion....see how that works but it's water off a ducks back i could have retaliated and called you a stupid c**t but then i realized you aint got one of those
Yeah that would have been a shit insult, mine was much better no i'm better at the insult game lol i would love to get a book of the most demeaning insults myself
Nah you fully missed the mark with me but no doubt managed to offend any atchual transgender people. oh lord really do you mean to say it didn't work????"Yeah next time try something like "your eyeliner looks shit" this would really upset me | |||
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" if you look at the whole thread i have been insulted more in it not anyone else Has it not occurred to you to wonder why that is? because i have the very nerve to utter the truth does not make me transphobic and neither does it give you the right to insult because you lose all your high ground don't you by doing thus From what I can gather (not thoroughly read the whole thread) alot of the frustration is stemming from your getting your opinion mixed up with fact and insisting it's the truth...now everyone including yourself is arguing and won't come to accept the views of others and nowt gonna change by the end of the thread. But there we go i accept peoples views i just can tell if a male or female
Unless of course they've passed you and you never noticed...In which case you'd just never know.
You've noticed every single trans person that has passed you? I highly doubt that somehow.
There's absolutely no way anybody on this planet knows and I guess you don't have special powers so again...opinion and fact..your mixing them up. "now i didn't say every one on the planet | |||
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"I'm always amazed at why people are so interested in who other people meet. Up until recently we didn't show any veri's for meets with tv's as couples said it put them off . So to get more meets with those who were prejudiced we didn't list tv's as an interest either . Then we thought fuck it , if people are gonna be like that then we don't want to meet them anyway . So we proudly say we like meeting tv's , and if we get less meets with those who don't like it , c'est la vie , It's been so much better since we 'came out ' . "
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