FabSwingers.com forum: out of my league

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

As a single male have you ever thought that some of the women/couples on here are out of your league or that you'd be punching above tour weight if you got the chance of a meet?

Thought welcome from all

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Reach for the stars matey, reach for the stars.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As a single male have you ever thought that some of the women/couples on here are out of your league or that you'd be punching above tour weight if you got the chance of a meet?

Thought welcome from all"
I feel that too but got to be in it to win it

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By *CoastFunMan
over a year ago

Southampron

"As a single male have you ever thought that some of the women/couples on here are out of your league or that you'd be punching above tour weight if you got the chance of a meet?

Thought welcome from all"

Yes. After reading the forums too I dare message anyone profile whose criteria I don't meet 100%, that would be pointless. I don't let it bother me though that's just the way of the Fab world for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it all the time

Even some of the guys who mail me I wonder why because they can do better

Self doubt is just human nature all of us do it in one form or another

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think it all the time

Even some of the guys who mail me I wonder why because they can do better

Self doubt is just human nature all of us do it in one form or another"

Oh getting deep

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

Think we all will all have looked at profiles and thought not a chance but then you have to think why not give it a try what is the worse that could happen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As a single male have you ever thought that some of the women/couples on here are out of your league or that you'd be punching above tour weight if you got the chance of a meet?

Thought welcome from all"

They are only [b]out of your league[b] if you think they are. You dont have to be Mr Universe, show some intelligence, dont disrespect people and be yourself.

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By *9rickyMan
over a year ago

Manchester

If you don't ask you don't get!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Think we all will all have looked at profiles and thought not a chance but then you have to think why not give it a try what is the worse that could happen."

Thank encouraging

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always go for men and women I fancy and if there out of my league so what.

Its not as if it dating so it doesn't really matter. Might as well have what you like x

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By *nFairnessMan
over a year ago

The Four Corners

haha that would be self-disempowering, why would you think such things, you've created rejection before it's even happened.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As a single male have you ever thought that some of the women/couples on here are out of your league or that you'd be punching above tour weight if you got the chance of a meet?

Thought welcome from all"

No not all! Actually I think the opposite in most occasions lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"haha that would be self-disempowering, why would you think such things, you've created rejection before it's even happened.

Ah the nievity of youth

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By *eliciousladyWoman
over a year ago

Sometimes U.K

"haha that would be self-disempowering, why would you think such things, you've created rejection before it's even happened.

Ah the nievity of youth "

It's refreshing though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sometimes I look at pics of guys who have mailed me and some are really good looking, nice bodies etc and I can't help but think ......why

There are many nice looking ladies on here, younger and with better bodies than me, sometimes if im honest I do look at some and think...surely I'm just a last resort and wondered how many other women they have had a no from before they have resorted to mailing me

I don't think I'm quite ready for the knackers yard just yet but I am realistic

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Sometimes I look at pics of guys who have mailed me and some are really good looking, nice bodies etc and I can't help but think ......why

I don't think I'm quite ready for the knackers yard just yet but I am realistic "

I've looked at your profile and don't think that at all xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"haha that would be self-disempowering, why would you think such things, you've created rejection before it's even happened.

Not really, if you don't message them you don't get rejected simple!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Being doing that don't mind a message back saying no. It pisses me off when people don't reply at all

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By *rs-Naughty_Mr-CuddlesCouple
over a year ago

Nr coleford

We have had couples and singles who were bi curious left us being fully bi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"haha that would be self-disempowering, why would you think such things, you've created rejection before it's even happened.

Not really, if you don't message them you don't get rejected simple!"

I have never had a single reply from any guy I have mailed first, I used to mail guys semi regular if I saw a profile I like, but I never got so much as a no thanks or your not my type, just no reply at all

I concluded from that that I was mailing guys out of my league so stopped making the first move as I was obviously making bad choices

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By *rs-Naughty_Mr-CuddlesCouple
over a year ago

Nr coleford

what we find funny is the straight guys fabing Mr cock shots in his panties

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm actually shocked at how shallow some people on here are. Surely as experienced adults we know that attraction goes deeper than looks? I saw a ladies post early who stated

" hope Im not offending anyone but don't want to hear from gingers"

Yes we all have that thing that initially makes us stop and look at someone, whether it be big boobs, nice legs, big bum, strong arms but then you need to look past that. I stopped by a woman's profile the other day as she looked stunning, perfect figure and everything else I would generally be looking for. However when I read her profile I was put off her immediately as 1. If she was chocolate she would have eaten herself and 2. Her description of what she wanted and expected from potential meets was ridiculous and I could not imagine for one second trying to hold a conversation with this lady never mind get intimate with her. I've looked at profiles who haven't immediately caught my eye but in a closer look there's been something in the persons smile or their eyes or body part that's really grabbed my attention or something in their profile that's left me wanting to know more.

I believe you can have the body and looks of a supermodel but if your souls ugly, it shines clearly out your eyes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"haha that would be self-disempowering, why would you think such things, you've created rejection before it's even happened.

Not really, if you don't message them you don't get rejected simple!

I concluded from that that I was mailing guys out of my league so stopped making the first move as I was obviously making bad choices

By the look of your pics the guys probably thought you were way out of their league!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it all the time and refuse to meet lots that I think would be disappointed with me ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it all the time and refuse to meet lots that I think would be disappointed with me ...."

I think we should just be happy with who we are and be confident (not arrogant). I am no oil painting but I get regular meets. Some with so called beautiful people some with not so, I do t really mind as it's the person inside I am attracted to x

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Who knows what is possible until you attempt the impossible and succeed?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it all the time and refuse to meet lots that I think would be disappointed with me ...."

I do think at times we are our own worse enemy and wonder how many good meets we may have missed out on if we let others decide if they like us or not rather than deciding for them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"haha that would be self-disempowering, why would you think such things, you've created rejection before it's even happened.

Not really, if you don't message them you don't get rejected simple!

I concluded from that that I was mailing guys out of my league so stopped making the first move as I was obviously making bad choices

By the look of your pics the guys probably thought you were way out of their league!

Yeah we'll go along with that it makes me feel better

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

Every time I get a thanks but no thanks message... I console myself with the thought...

"I was out of their league..".

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By *L RogueMan
over a year ago

London

League Shmeague!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've had no meets yet and without being big headed, I don't think I'm out of my league here.

People just have different tastes and preferences.

I'm sure I don't float everyone's boat (seem to be attracted to guys only thus far

) but I'm hopeful that a lady or couple will come knocking soon

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By *ambanCouple
over a year ago

kingswinford

im exactly the same! my hubby is the goodlooker, i feel like the booby prize beside him!lol

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By *eliciousladyWoman
over a year ago

Sometimes U.K

"I'm actually shocked at how shallow some people on here are. Surely as experienced adults we know that attraction goes deeper than looks?

Yes we all have that thing that initially makes us stop and look at someone, whether it be big boobs, nice legs, big bum, strong arms but then you need to look past that.

I believe you can have the body and looks of a supermodel but if your souls ugly, it shines clearly out your eyes

Nicely put

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think we all will all have looked at profiles and thought not a chance but then you have to think why not give it a try what is the worse that could happen."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sometimes I look at pics of guys who have mailed me and some are really good looking, nice bodies etc and I can't help but think ......why

I don't think I'm quite ready for the knackers yard just yet but I am realistic "

Me too. Hence I don't bother with many pics etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The worst that can happen is a refusal.

Compile a too 100 holistic and starting at number 1 work your way down.

Of course never reveal to number 100;when you get there,that they were last in line.

Please report your findings !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a single female I think that a lot about single males on here......there's way too many stunning ladies and my conference has always been low. Thankfully I've met some great men and they have all said they want to see me again so I should stop being so.down on myself and just enjoy

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By *o new WinksMan
over a year ago

BSE

Well, what i lack in looks, i make up with effort. So I dont worry about leagues, but my hotlist is really a "dream on" list

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's a natural thought, I look at hit fit younger guys and wouldn't dare msg them, same with couples if the woman is stunning x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are loads on here who are out of my league.

That's just life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We never give leagues a second thought .

We aren't the most attractive on here by a long shot , but we get to meet some really lovely people and had the most fabbed pic on fab for two days last week .

We never feel less than the people we meet , it's always equal as far as we are concerned . If the folk we meet are hotter that's cool , as long as they have fun , so do we .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it all the time

Even some of the guys who mail me I wonder why because they can do better

Self doubt is just human nature all of us do it in one form or another"

Same here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I considere myself to be attractive to any girl's league so no hindering on my part.

The thing that decides all is confidence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it all the time

Even some of the guys who mail me I wonder why because they can do better

Self doubt is just human nature all of us do it in one form or another

Same here."

Yet I think you are stunning and I'm not just saying that to get in your pants

I'm not bi and your not looking so I have zero need to butter you up

I look at women like you and think why are men bothering with me

I suppose that just goes to show that people do not see us the way we see ourselves

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

"haha that would be self-disempowering, why would you think such things, you've created rejection before it's even happened.

Not really, if you don't message them you don't get rejected simple!

I concluded from that that I was mailing guys out of my league so stopped making the first move as I was obviously making bad choices

Happens to us all the time (both with men and couples, we don't tend to message single women very often) we rarely get replies back but doesn't stop us trying.

I really dislike the phrase, out of my league. Who decides the different leagues and do you get relegated?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As a single male have you ever thought that some of the women/couples on here are out of your league or that you'd be punching above tour weight if you got the chance of a meet?

Thought welcome from all"

I don't believe anyone is out of anyone's league. It's just a case of finding people with equal attraction for each other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most people here are out of my league, but I consider myself lucky to have met the men I have met during my time here, especially recently. Not going to screw this one up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've had some men think I am. No idea why. I think a lot of men on here are out of my league. I don't care I've managed to fuck them so I'm happy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it all the time and refuse to meet lots that I think would be disappointed with me ...."

This is me too. The amount of times I say to someone they're going to be disappointed!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm out of alot of women's league on here.but that's just the way it is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it all the time and refuse to meet lots that I think would be disappointed with me ....

This is me too. The amount of times I say to someone they're going to be disappointed!

Rubbish you're bloody lovely!

I've had the pleasure of meeting stunners on here and sharing great times... And also been turned down by swamp donkeys I were simply messaging bk out of politeness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it all the time and refuse to meet lots that I think would be disappointed with me ....

This is me too. The amount of times I say to someone they're going to be disappointed!

Rubbish you're bloody lovely!

I've had the pleasure of meeting stunners on here and sharing great times... And also been turned down by swamp donkeys I were simply messaging bk out of politeness.

"
swamp donkeys looool

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

This seems to rear its ugly head every now and then!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if you don't go for it you'll never know. Just do it dude.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I am but the amount of no replies I get is unreal just keep on trying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep, and if I get an opportunity, I will make a hash of it because it's so deeply psychological. but nothing is irreparable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Reach for the stars matey, reach for the stars.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it all the time and refuse to meet lots that I think would be disappointed with me ....

This is me too. The amount of times I say to someone they're going to be disappointed!

Rubbish you're bloody lovely!

I've had the pleasure of meeting stunners on here and sharing great times... And also been turned down by swamp donkeys I were simply messaging bk out of politeness.

Thank you (unless I'm in the swamp donkey pile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it all the time and refuse to meet lots that I think would be disappointed with me ....

This is me too. The amount of times I say to someone they're going to be disappointed!

Rubbish you're bloody lovely!

I've had the pleasure of meeting stunners on here and sharing great times... And also been turned down by swamp donkeys I were simply messaging bk out of politeness.

Thank you (unless I'm in the swamp donkey pile

Nooooo

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

nobody is out of anybodies league...we're people not football teams.

Have I seen mention of swamp donkeys?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a reasonably confident chap (mostly through a weird sense of apathy) but I'll admit that I sometimes chat to people I would definitely not meet because I'm fairly sure they are waaaaay to hot for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"nobody is out of anybodies league...we're people not football teams.

Have I seen mention of swamp donkeys?

Guilty.... Sorry....

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By *ark NoirMan
over a year ago

London

I message those who I find attractive without any thought, we're all equal here as far as I'm concerned.

If you're a positive and confident character then being out of someone's league becomes irrelevant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I message those who I find attractive without any thought, we're all equal here as far as I'm concerned.

If you're a positive and confident character then being out of someone's league becomes irrelevant."

I'd love your confidence.

Finding someone genuinely beautiful means I'd be too scared to suggest meeting them.

The fear of their disappointment and rejection are simply too scary!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I message those who I find attractive without any thought, we're all equal here as far as I'm concerned.

If you're a positive and confident character then being out of someone's league becomes irrelevant.

I'd love your confidence.

Finding someone genuinely beautiful means I'd be too scared to suggest meeting them.

The fear of their disappointment and rejection are simply too scary!"

Approach them and being rejected is equal to not approaching them at all. I don't see anything to lose really, and there's a possibility of something to gain.

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By *ancs MinxWoman
over a year ago

Burnley

"Sometimes I look at pics of guys who have mailed me and some are really good looking, nice bodies etc and I can't help but think ......why

I don't think I'm quite ready for the knackers yard just yet but I am realistic "

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol

I've expressed mild shock when someone who is way hotter than me has expressed an interest but I figure they must like me at least a little to have expressed that interest and I've gone ahead and met them. I do like people rather than their packaging on the whole so if I chat to them and like them they invariably become hotter and I'd be a fool to miss out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As a single male have you ever thought that some of the women/couples on here are out of your league or that you'd be punching above tour weight if you got the chance of a meet?

Thought welcome from all"

No absolutely not. I view all women and couples the same. They are the holy grail. I assume that any message I send to anyone will be ignored. So if they are not I'm pleasantly surprised. On that basis I have a sod it attitude and go for anyone that takes my fancy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think everyone (swinger or not) has gone through a stage of feeling that way, and a lot of people still feel that way now.

I used to be incredibly insecure and self conscious, now not at all. After a lot of self reflection and ups and downs, I have no beef with myself.

There aren't really any "leagues", just people. Some will be attracted to you, some won't.

Insecurity will only ever serve to stop you having experiences that you want, kick its butt.

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds

I would really hate to think that anyone at all thought that we, or me personally, were out of their league. There may be people we don't really fancy but it certainly isn't a question of leagues - just of taste

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

When I was first put on Fab I would have believed everyone to be 'out of my league' as I had no confidence or self esteem.

Now I don't think like that, I've met some really good looking guys. I've been lucky to learn that attraction is more about attitude & personality than looks.

And in the Fab numbers game, where women have the pick of what they want, I am out of a lot of people's league now

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"I think everyone (swinger or not) has gone through a stage of feeling that way, and a lot of people still feel that way now.

I used to be incredibly insecure and self conscious, now not at all. After a lot of self reflection and ups and downs, I have no beef with myself.

There aren't really any "leagues", just people. Some will be attracted to you, some won't.

Insecurity will only ever serve to stop you having experiences that you want, kick its butt.

Very well put

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By *ighland_RoseCouple
over a year ago

Brigadoon

"Well, what i lack in looks, i make up with effort. So I dont worry about leagues, but my hotlist is really a "dream on" list

You lack nothing in looks, nothing at all. Just goes to show anyone can have a negative view of themselves.

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By *eckandcarlCouple
over a year ago

leicester

We sometimes view profiles and think out our league and don't message lol x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We sometimes view profiles and think out our league and don't message lol x"

Same here or both are not bi

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

What is the worst thing they can do?

Just this past week I decided to be proactive sending first messages, I'm having a ball and should of done it years ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We usually message anyone that we like the look of or like their profile. If they are in our league or not doesn't matter and if they don't reply it isn't exactly the end of the world. I doubt anyone is going to send you a reply that they are out of your league and frankly if they did, would you want to meet them? Attractiveness is so much more than looks but the rest is hard to get across in writing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We sometimes view profiles and think out our league and don't message lol x"

I just add them to my hotlist

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By *mallteaserWoman
over a year ago

Central

I feel with my deafness that lots and lots are way out my league xx

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By *mallteaserWoman
over a year ago

Central

I feel with my deafness that lots and lots are way out my league xx

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

I know my place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sometimes I look at pics of guys who have mailed me and some are really good looking, nice bodies etc and I can't help but think ......why

I don't think I'm quite ready for the knackers yard just yet but I am realistic "
The victorias secret model types on here can be a bit up their own arses, which is a very unattractive trait to have... I think they get like that as the get loads of messages a day,which lends them to think they are better than they actually are..This is a virtual world not real life..

You come across as real genuine and honest, these are a big attraction for us...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know I am out of everyone's league, you could say I am unique.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

used to but after learning somethings about people that appeared too amazing for anybody i reckon everyone is fair game for all - if you dont like us fair enough - never think that way anymore

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By *anda and CatCouple
over a year ago

"im exactly the same! my hubby is the goodlooker, i feel like the booby prize beside him!lol"

Opposite for us, hubby (me) is the booby prize!

As a couple we have always thought same as OP but recently got more confident, until a regection yesterday for a private party put us back in our place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"im exactly the same! my hubby is the goodlooker, i feel like the booby prize beside him!lol

Opposite for us, hubby (me) is the booby prize!

As a couple we have always thought same as OP but recently got more confident, until a regection yesterday for a private party put us back in our place. "

A rejection shouldn't necessarily knock you back. Think of who you have met, not who you haven't. Attraction works in weird ways, which is a good thing; otherwise loads of us would never find someone who fancies us!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we have both been told no at some point - we just smile - we like each other and loads like us so not fussed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have never thought that someone was out of our league. Certainly wouldn't not message someone because of that. If we get a "no thanks" or no reply, we move on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Although I can be as shallow as the next person and fancy a hot young toned body, experience has shown that actually I should be looking at the slightly older guys, as they have been much better at pleasuring me.

So in my case, if a guy thought 'outta my league as I'm much older" ....maybe not?

Ps chaps in your 90's please don't pm me...That's fecking pushing it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone who thinks that anyone is out of their league really needs to think positively!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No...God loves a trier!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think like this often. I get countless messages from men who are absolutely beautiful. Yet I know these same men wouldn't look twice at me in a bar.

I wouldn't meet them as I would spend the entire time feeling very self conscious and without any confidence at all.

I often look at these men and wonder if it's just a bit of desperation on their part.

I also know a few men on here from out with the world of fab and when they approach me on here I cringe because I know how stunning their wives or girlfriends are in real life.

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

"Anyone who thinks that anyone is out of their league really needs to think positively!!

It's a nice thought...

But reality is, somebody is always out of your league.

whether it be looks, status, skill level, intelligence, strength, speed, experience, natural ability....

The list is endless & of cause you will be nervous to approach them.

And 9 times out of 10 you will wish you didn't...

But that one time..................

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I know this is no strings sex and all but why does the arrangement of skin over bones make someone better than another person.

Admittedly we can all influence how we look to a certain degree but even then does being a regular gym goer, eating less or differently or having surgery to change your body make you out of other people's league.

I'm pretty sure not many people feel superior in this way and its just others who feel they don't match up. Its sad if you feel that way about yourself.

Now......I'm off to send another e-mail to Peirce Brosnan I'm pretty sure he just hasn't seen the last 150

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

"I know this is no strings sex and all but why does the arrangement of skin over bones make someone better than another person.

I'm pretty sure not many people feel superior in this way and its just others who feel they don't match up. Its sad if you feel that way about yourself.

Now......I'm off to send another e-mail to Peirce Brosnan I'm pretty sure he just hasn't seen the last 150

Thing is our society is geared to lift the beautiful people up...

We put them out there for the world to see and the world buys it.

Your life is simply easier if your pretty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone who thinks that anyone is out of their league really needs to think positively!!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I know this is no strings sex and all but why does the arrangement of skin over bones make someone better than another person.

I'm pretty sure not many people feel superior in this way and its just others who feel they don't match up. Its sad if you feel that way about yourself.

Now......I'm off to send another e-mail to Peirce Brosnan I'm pretty sure he just hasn't seen the last 150

Thing is our society is geared to lift the beautiful people up...

We put them out there for the world to see and the world buys it.

Your life is simply easier if your pretty."

I do agree that its easier to be good looking (thats what my good looking friends tell me anyway) but as long as we keep thinking that good looking people are the dogs doo dahs is as long as it will continue. I know that some of it is subconscious but on here we have time to consider and overcome that don't we?

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By *ordonBennettMan
over a year ago

dover

"Anyone who thinks that anyone is out of their league really needs to think positively!!

I quite agree with this having met several lovely ladies on here whom I'd have considered unattainable before I joined fab

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I know this is no strings sex and all but why does the arrangement of skin over bones make someone better than another person.

I'm pretty sure not many people feel superior in this way and its just others who feel they don't match up. Its sad if you feel that way about yourself.

Now......I'm off to send another e-mail to Peirce Brosnan I'm pretty sure he just hasn't seen the last 150

Thing is our society is geared to lift the beautiful people up...

We put them out there for the world to see and the world buys it.

Your life is simply easier if your pretty.

We don't think they are the dogs Doo dahs we just want to fuck them/him/her.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I know this is no strings sex and all but why does the arrangement of skin over bones make someone better than another person.

I'm pretty sure not many people feel superior in this way and its just others who feel they don't match up. Its sad if you feel that way about yourself.

Now......I'm off to send another e-mail to Peirce Brosnan I'm pretty sure he just hasn't seen the last 150

Thing is our society is geared to lift the beautiful people up...

We put them out there for the world to see and the world buys it.

Your life is simply easier if your pretty.

We don't think they are the dogs Doo dahs we just want to fuck them/him/her.

And that's about it really

I also think that saying certain people are out of their league implies that they aim low in the hopes of success, how rude and disrespectful is that to the people they have met or contact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm fairly confident so I don't tend to think someone is out of my league although I do understand I'm not everyone's type!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As a single male have you ever thought that some of the women/couples on here are out of your league or that you'd be punching above tour weight if you got the chance of a meet?

Thought welcome from all"

As the male in a couple I think this everyday.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

So! To those who consider some to be out of their league so don't contact them. What league do you consider those you do meet and contact to be in?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I feel with my deafness that lots and lots are way out my league xx"

Are people actually not mature enough to handle this? Has it actually ever put anyone off or is it more a worry on your part?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I mail and pray for a reply lol but I don't do the whole league thing...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So! To those who consider some to be out of their league so don't contact them. What league do you consider those you do meet and contact to be in?

Reversing the question, I look at myself (but defo not Blondie) to be in a pretty low league, which I guess speaks volumes about my self esteem. If I wasn't with her there would be no meets.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"So! To those who consider some to be out of their league so don't contact them. What league do you consider those you do meet and contact to be in?

Reversing the question, I look at myself (but defo not Blondie) to be in a pretty low league, which I guess speaks volumes about my self esteem. If I wasn't with her there would be no meets."

I just looked at your picture...you BOTH are attractive people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you know what? I'm one of life's plain Janes. Of course people can be out of your league. I do Ok in life. But I'd feel uncomfortable in the company of people who live what i consider a better lifestyle than me (ie very wealthy). I know that most people like that wouldn't want to associate with me either. I do Ok on here too, but i know that the physically beautiful people are less likely to want to have sex with me. Why would they? But that's fine as I'm happy to meet the attractive people that i meet. Do I think my life would be easier if I were one of the physically beautiful people? Maybe. ..maybe I'd get what I want a bit easier but I'll never know the answer to that. In life we tend to stick with people similar to ourselves because they make us feel comfortable. The "leagues "are there whether we accept it or not. So yes OP. I often see people and think they are out of my league. It's part of the society we live in.

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

"I know this is no strings sex and all but why does the arrangement of skin over bones make someone better than another person.

I'm pretty sure not many people feel superior in this way and its just others who feel they don't match up. Its sad if you feel that way about yourself.

Now......I'm off to send another e-mail to Peirce Brosnan I'm pretty sure he just hasn't seen the last 150

Thing is our society is geared to lift the beautiful people up...

We put them out there for the world to see and the world buys it.

Your life is simply easier if your pretty.

We do.... But it will always be there...

Unfortunately you will always compare and be compared to and this creates an invisible barrier.

Like it or no you can't opt out of the game.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"im exactly the same! my hubby is the goodlooker, i feel like the booby prize beside him!lol

Opposite for us, hubby (me) is the booby prize!

As a couple we have always thought same as OP but recently got more confident, until a regection yesterday for a private party put us back in our place. "

Exactly the same here. Don't expect anyone to 'take one for the team' but no one is getting near Blondie without a bit of Rogue thrown in.

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

"Do you know what? I'm one of life's plain Janes. Of course people can be out of your league. I do Ok in life. But I'd feel uncomfortable in the company of people who live what i consider a better lifestyle than me (ie very wealthy). I know that most people like that wouldn't want to associate with me either. I do Ok on here too, but i know that the physically beautiful people are less likely to want to have sex with me. Why would they? But that's fine as I'm happy to meet the attractive people that i meet. Do I think my life would be easier if I were one of the physically beautiful people? Maybe. ..maybe I'd get what I want a bit easier but I'll never know the answer to that. In life we tend to stick with people similar to ourselves because they make us feel comfortable. The "leagues "are there whether we accept it or not. So yes OP. I often see people and think they are out of my league. It's part of the society we live in. "

Your always eloquent....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it all the time and refuse to meet lots that I think would be disappointed with me ...."

I think you're taking the mickey having looked at your profile. You, to us, are one of the unattainables we would love to meet but just know it will never happen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your always eloquent...."

It's because of the league I'm in

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

Your always eloquent....

It's because of the league I'm in

One of your own?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your always eloquent....

It's because of the league I'm in

One of your own?"

I sometimes think I'm in a parallel universe if that's the same thing?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So! To those who consider some to be out of their league so don't contact them. What league do you consider those you do meet and contact to be in?

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That's a great way of looking at it. Surely contacting those you're attracted to should be the only option ? Otherwise what message do you send to those you eventual do meet ? Rethinks strategy !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it all the time and refuse to meet lots that I think would be disappointed with me ....

This is me too. The amount of times I say to someone they're going to be disappointed!

Rubbish you're bloody lovely!

I've had the pleasure of meeting stunners on here and sharing great times... And also been turned down by swamp donkeys I were simply messaging bk out of politeness.

Swamp donkeys?

Such a charmer

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

Your always eloquent....

It's because of the league I'm in

One of your own?

I sometimes think I'm in a parallel universe if that's the same thing?

In theory I suppose we are...

Must be parallel to something right?

Oh and intelligence/knowledge defiantly has leagues...

Nothing worse than being the dumb guy in the room!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes we all have that thing that initially makes us stop and look at someone, whether it be big boobs, nice legs, big bum, strong arms but then you need to look past that. I stopped by a woman's profile the other day as she looked stunning, perfect figure and everything else I would generally be looking for. However when I read her profile I was put off her immediately as 1. If she was chocolate she would have eaten herself and 2. Her description of what she wanted and expected from potential meets was ridiculous and I could not imagine for one second trying to hold a conversation with this lady never mind get intimate with her. I've looked at profiles who haven't immediately caught my eye but in a closer look there's been something in the persons smile or their eyes or body part that's really grabbed my attention or something in their profile that's left me wanting to know more.

I believe you can have the body and looks of a supermodel but if your souls ugly, it shines clearly out your eyes

I agree with this. I think when someone has a great personality they automatically become more attractive to you and the converse is true when it's not .

We do try and reply to all of the people that message us but sometimes after messaging we realise we are not on the same page in what we are looking for. We want someone who matches us personality wise and who we find attractive . We have had some very attractive guys message but we are not looking for single guys so i tend to message back a polite no ... It's not a question of leagues.

Ms naughty x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it all the time and refuse to meet lots that I think would be disappointed with me ...."

Wow, they way you feel about yourself, and the way you look in your profile photos are polar opposites. If you had the confidence that you appear to exude on camera you'd not be knocking anyone back. As a male having looked at your pics I'd be scared that you'd use me, abuse me, and leave me in a blubbering heap on my bedroom floor!

This wouldn't stop me from messaging you though as I'm confident about myself. Although I may not be eye candy for everyone I'll not know unless I get accepted or knocked back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"haha that would be self-disempowering, why would you think such things, you've created rejection before it's even happened.

Ah the nievity of youth

It's refreshing though

A,positive attitude is endearing and attractive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your always eloquent....

It's because of the league I'm in

One of your own?

I sometimes think I'm in a parallel universe if that's the same thing?

In theory I suppose we are...

Must be parallel to something right?

Oh and intelligence/knowledge defiantly has leagues...

Nothing worse than being the dumb guy in the room!!

I hadn't even considered intelligence/academic knowledge...Obviously I must be in the low ranking in that department for not having considered it. ..what a dumb ass! !

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol

Playing devil's advocate here; what if you state on this thread that there are some people you don't message or meet because you think they are too hot for you? Then someone you did message or meet pops into the thread. How hot do you think they might now feel?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh and if I was the kind of person to believe in a league structure well I've taken the field with folk from the Scottish 3rd division all the way up to Champions League and each has had its positives.

Confidence (not to be mistaken as arrogance) is one of the sexiest traits in anybody so try using it people!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I definitely think this and worry that once we meet they will be very disappointed

Alabama

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Playing devil's advocate here; what if you state on this thread that there are some people you don't message or meet because you think they are too hot for you? Then someone you did message or meet pops into the thread. How hot do you think they might now feel?"

Yes!! This is a point I was trying to make further up. If you feel yourself to be unworthy fair enough but don't imply that the people you meet are at your (self imposed) level.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm actually shocked at how shallow some people on here are. Surely as experienced adults we know that attraction goes deeper than looks?

Yes we all have that thing that initially makes us stop and look at someone, whether it be big boobs, nice legs, big bum, strong arms but then you need to look past that.

I believe you can have the body and looks of a supermodel but if your souls ugly, it shines clearly out your eyes

Nicely put

i have come across some truly ugly souls in here wrapped in fantastic bodies

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

Ok... I'm gonna take a run at this...

There are leagues and some your out of, way out of, either way.

It's how our society works, it's what keeps us together and ensures our freedom.

We reward one person more than the other, quite simply because they are better...

This in turn encourages yet others to improve.

Now some of you will say you have sky high confidence and that you never feel out of anyone's league....

Well I say to you that you have not reached far enough!

If you have never been in a room full of people and felt intimidated by their presence, then your living in the comfort zone.

Which is a nice place to be, but that's not really confidence you display.

Many, many times I have been in a room and thought "I don't belong here". You can't help it! Your walking into the lions den, but when you walk out with that pussy on a leash, it's all the more satisfying...

Confidence is the ability to put yourself in situations where you are not confident and like a muscle, that extra weight strengthens it.

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By *L RogueMan
over a year ago

London

As far as I'm concerned, I've got nothing to lose so I'm messaging, preference permitting. For some, I think it's the fear of rejection, more than "leagues."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes!! This is a point I was trying to make further up. If you feel yourself to be unworthy fair enough but don't imply that the people you meet are at your (self imposed) level."

I've been amazed at how gorgeous some of the men who have messaged me have been.

I would never have dreamt of messaging them first as I would never in a million years think they would be interested in me.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Ok... I'm gonna take a run at this...

There are leagues and some your out of, way out of, either way.

It's how our society works, it's what keeps us together and ensures our freedom.

We reward one person more than the other, quite simply because they are better...

This in turn encourages yet others to improve.

Now some of you will say you have sky high confidence and that you never feel out of anyone's league....

Well I say to you that you have not reached far enough!

If you have never been in a room full of people and felt intimidated by their presence, then your living in the comfort zone.

Which is a nice place to be, but that's not really confidence you display.

Confidence is the ability to put yourself in situations where you are not confident and like a muscle, that extra weight strengthens it."

My take on it is that being more intelligent, having more wealth, being better looking does not make you a better person therefore I have confidence in most situations because I am aware that although we are all different in many respects at base level we are all the same.

I'm pretty sure that loads of people feel that I'm at a lower level in their personal league table than they are. I'm looking at my face in the mirror and it doesn't look remotely bothered

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

"Ok... I'm gonna take a run at this...

There are leagues and some your out of, way out of, either way.

It's how our society works, it's what keeps us together and ensures our freedom.

We reward one person more than the other, quite simply because they are better...

This in turn encourages yet others to improve.

Now some of you will say you have sky high confidence and that you never feel out of anyone's league....

Well I say to you that you have not reached far enough!

If you have never been in a room full of people and felt intimidated by their presence, then your living in the comfort zone.

Which is a nice place to be, but that's not really confidence you display.

Confidence is the ability to put yourself in situations where you are not confident and like a muscle, that extra weight strengthens it.

I'm pretty sure that loads of people feel that I'm at a lower level in their personal league table than they are. I'm looking at my face in the mirror and it doesn't look remotely bothered

Ok I'm getting all philosophical here, but it's not about being a "better person", whatever that is.

It's about your considered worth to society.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"As far as I'm concerned, I've got nothing to lose so I'm messaging, preference permitting. For some, I think it's the fear of rejection, more than "leagues."

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I think I agree with you, I've never messaged guys first, not for fear of rejection but because it was deep rooted in me that women didn't make the first move.

Anyway, only this week I got over that and have become proactive sending first messages. It's great fun, talking to some really nice guys, two meets arranged for the future.

Some are ongoing conversations, some passed a few messages and then it fizzled out.

I message guys I like the look of and have a decent profile I don't analysis whether they will be attracted to me or not. Some will, some won't, only a fool would think everyone is going to be attracted to them. But people don't like negativity and that comes across a lot in this thread and maybe that's what's putting people off and not their looks.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Woe started this thread 24hrs ago and still going strong. Some interesting views and opinions keep them coming starting to up my game. Hell got nothing to lose

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As a single male have you ever thought that some of the women/couples on here are out of your league or that you'd be punching above tour weight if you got the chance of a meet?

Thought welcome from all"
it would appear that many women on here irrespective of how they look would feel they are out of our league but its mostly due to supply and demand and the ego boosting attention that most get wether they deserve it or not ,I have chatted with some extremely attractive women on here I don't regard any woman as out of my league but you have to live with the fact that there are women who will be nice and women who are not and beauty is in the eye of the beholder

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

One more thought on this....

At the top of all leagues sits the champion.

The problem is they have no one to play with...

All are out of their league.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As far as I'm concerned, I've got nothing to lose so I'm messaging, preference permitting. For some, I think it's the fear of rejection, more than "leagues."

I think I agree with you, I've never messaged guys first, not for fear of rejection but because it was deep rooted in me that women didn't make the first move.

Anyway, only this week I got over that and have become proactive sending first messages. It's great fun, talking to some really nice guys, two meets arranged for the future.

Some are ongoing conversations, some passed a few messages and then it fizzled out.

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hey no woman on here has ever messaged a guy first why would they ,they are too busy looking through the 400 plus messages they have in their inbox ,no time for thinking about a guy they might like hehe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok... I'm gonna take a run at this...

There are leagues and some your out of, way out of, either way.

It's how our society works, it's what keeps us together and ensures our freedom.

We reward one person more than the other, quite simply because they are better...

This in turn encourages yet others to improve.

Now some of you will say you have sky high confidence and that you never feel out of anyone's league....

Well I say to you that you have not reached far enough!

If you have never been in a room full of people and felt intimidated by their presence, then your living in the comfort zone.

Which is a nice place to be, but that's not really confidence you display.

Confidence is the ability to put yourself in situations where you are not confident and like a muscle, that extra weight strengthens it."

Tend to disagree with this, I really don't like the idea that people believe there are individuals better than them. Yes there are people who are very successful in business, sports, science and arts but that's one aspect of their life. They too will have insecurities about other aspects of their lives, they are only human after all.

I have been in the same room as famous sports people and well known musicians and yes it can feel uncomfortable, but confidence and a general understanding of the way decent people should conduct themselves allows you to chat to them and break down barriers. If they tell me to bugger off so be it, not really the kind of people I want to speak to if they feel they're better than me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As far as I'm concerned, I've got nothing to lose so I'm messaging, preference permitting. For some, I think it's the fear of rejection, more than "leagues."

I think there's a difference between recognising that there are "leagues" and turning those "leagues" into barriers. Some people see them and ignore them, others treat them like they are physical barriers. But they are there. It's human nature to compare yourself to others. We have to do that otherwise there would be no competition and we would achieve nothing.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"One more thought on this....

At the top of all leagues sits the champion.

The problem is they have no one to play with...

All are out of their league."

They are champions at one thing usually it doesn't make them better or less able to form relationships with other people....or shouldn't.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Ok... I'm gonna take a run at this...

There are leagues and some your out of, way out of, either way.

It's how our society works, it's what keeps us together and ensures our freedom.

We reward one person more than the other, quite simply because they are better...

This in turn encourages yet others to improve.

Now some of you will say you have sky high confidence and that you never feel out of anyone's league....

Well I say to you that you have not reached far enough!

If you have never been in a room full of people and felt intimidated by their presence, then your living in the comfort zone.

Which is a nice place to be, but that's not really confidence you display.

Confidence is the ability to put yourself in situations where you are not confident and like a muscle, that extra weight strengthens it.

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

"As far as I'm concerned, I've got nothing to lose so I'm messaging, preference permitting. For some, I think it's the fear of rejection, more than "leagues."

I concur, that would be too communist for me, I feel our creative unfairness forces us to better ourselves....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Go ugly early. Don't go home alone.

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By *ishopstippleMan
over a year ago

Purley

"As a single male have you ever thought that some of the women/couples on here are out of your league or that you'd be punching above tour weight if you got the chance of a meet?

Thought welcome from all

Yes. After reading the forums too I dare message anyone profile whose criteria I don't meet 100%, that would be pointless. I don't let it bother me though that's just the way of the Fab world for me "

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Ok... I'm gonna take a run at this...

There are leagues and some your out of, way out of, either way.

It's how our society works, it's what keeps us together and ensures our freedom.

We reward one person more than the other, quite simply because they are better...

This in turn encourages yet others to improve.

Now some of you will say you have sky high confidence and that you never feel out of anyone's league....

Well I say to you that you have not reached far enough!

If you have never been in a room full of people and felt intimidated by their presence, then your living in the comfort zone.

Which is a nice place to be, but that's not really confidence you display.

Confidence is the ability to put yourself in situations where you are not confident and like a muscle, that extra weight strengthens it.

I'm pretty sure that loads of people feel that I'm at a lower level in their personal league table than they are. I'm looking at my face in the mirror and it doesn't look remotely bothered

Ok I'm getting all philosophical here, but it's not about being a "better person", whatever that is.

It's about your considered worth to society."

How is that worth measured? I think in western society at least by monetary value. By my personal values most people have worth and make a contribution but I know that it doesn't work that way.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Go ugly early. Don't go home alone.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I don't believe people should be sorted into leagues. Choose to meet people or not on their own merits, not on whether they are perceived as unattainable.

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

"Ok... I'm gonna take a run at this...

There are leagues and some your out of, way out of, either way.

It's how our society works, it's what keeps us together and ensures our freedom.

We reward one person more than the other, quite simply because they are better...

This in turn encourages yet others to improve.

Now some of you will say you have sky high confidence and that you never feel out of anyone's league....

Well I say to you that you have not reached far enough!

If you have never been in a room full of people and felt intimidated by their presence, then your living in the comfort zone.

Which is a nice place to be, but that's not really confidence you display.

Confidence is the ability to put yourself in situations where you are not confident and like a muscle, that extra weight strengthens it.

But you still recognise that in their field of endeavour that have excelled.

And maybe, you have too or maybe you haven't, but it's still a comparison.

And we need a quantifying/qualitative system.

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

"Ok... I'm gonna take a run at this...

There are leagues and some your out of, way out of, either way.

It's how our society works, it's what keeps us together and ensures our freedom.

We reward one person more than the other, quite simply because they are better...

This in turn encourages yet others to improve.

Now some of you will say you have sky high confidence and that you never feel out of anyone's league....

Well I say to you that you have not reached far enough!

If you have never been in a room full of people and felt intimidated by their presence, then your living in the comfort zone.

Which is a nice place to be, but that's not really confidence you display.

Confidence is the ability to put yourself in situations where you are not confident and like a muscle, that extra weight strengthens it.

I'm pretty sure that loads of people feel that I'm at a lower level in their personal league table than they are. I'm looking at my face in the mirror and it doesn't look remotely bothered

Ok I'm getting all philosophical here, but it's not about being a "better person", whatever that is.

It's about your considered worth to society.

How is that worth measured? I think in western society at least by monetary value. By my personal values most people have worth and make a contribution but I know that it doesn't work that way."

Yeah... I'm not sure what the rules are, but it has to be along the lines of how easy it is to monetise those skills/qualities.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I think I go through life with too simpler an outlook, if I believed in league tables than judging by this thread I wouldn't be with my partner.

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over a year ago

"I think I go through life with too simpler an outlook, if I believed in league tables than judging by this thread I wouldn't be with my partner.

Only if you see those leagues as physical barriers...

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By *anda and CatCouple
over a year ago

"I think I go through life with too simpler an outlook, if I believed in league tables than judging by this thread I wouldn't be with my partner.

When I met wifey I was punching well above my weight. Worked out quite well though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think I go through life with too simpler an outlook, if I believed in league tables than judging by this thread I wouldn't be with my partner.

Only if you see those leagues as physical barriers..."

Those that achieve most in life don't see them as physical barriers but recognise they are there and strive to better themselves, don't they?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"I think I go through life with too simpler an outlook, if I believed in league tables than judging by this thread I wouldn't be with my partner.

Only if you see those leagues as physical barriers..."
that's true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok... I'm gonna take a run at this...

There are leagues and some your out of, way out of, either way.

It's how our society works, it's what keeps us together and ensures our freedom.

We reward one person more than the other, quite simply because they are better...

This in turn encourages yet others to improve.

Now some of you will say you have sky high confidence and that you never feel out of anyone's league....

Well I say to you that you have not reached far enough!

If you have never been in a room full of people and felt intimidated by their presence, then your living in the comfort zone.

Which is a nice place to be, but that's not really confidence you display.

Confidence is the ability to put yourself in situations where you are not confident and like a muscle, that extra weight strengthens it.

But you still recognise that in their field of endeavour that have excelled.

And maybe, you have too or maybe you haven't, but it's still a comparison.

And we need a quantifying/qualitative system."

Yep I agree with the fact they've excelled in their field and to that point they stand out.

I disagree that we need a rating system for society though. For example if someone is better at business but they fail miserably on the sports field does this make them of greater or lesser value in your society hierarchy? Is great to see people excel in the Olympics or on dragons den but I'm not going to kneel before them because society deems them to be more valuable than me.

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

"I think I go through life with too simpler an outlook, if I believed in league tables than judging by this thread I wouldn't be with my partner.

Only if you see those leagues as physical barriers..."

Agree.... I love envy, it's my favourite emotion...

I'm a voracious learner and whenever I meet someone with skills/knowledge/ability I don't have, envy drives me to learn them.

Once armed, I can now fight in that arena.

If every time you saw a barrier, you gave up. You'd be sat in a cave drawing on walls.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If we come across a profile where they're extremely attractive and we really like the look of them, we would send them a message.

if the same profile came across as really arrogant then that's what would stop us messaging. Some people are fully aware that they are attractive and are really arrogant about it, that's what we avoid.

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

"Ok... I'm gonna take a run at this...

There are leagues and some your out of, way out of, either way.

It's how our society works, it's what keeps us together and ensures our freedom.

We reward one person more than the other, quite simply because they are better...

This in turn encourages yet others to improve.

Now some of you will say you have sky high confidence and that you never feel out of anyone's league....

Well I say to you that you have not reached far enough!

If you have never been in a room full of people and felt intimidated by their presence, then your living in the comfort zone.

Which is a nice place to be, but that's not really confidence you display.

Confidence is the ability to put yourself in situations where you are not confident and like a muscle, that extra weight strengthens it.

But you still recognise that in their field of endeavour that have excelled.

And maybe, you have too or maybe you haven't, but it's still a comparison.

And we need a quantifying/qualitative system.

Yep I agree with the fact they've excelled in their field and to that point they stand out.

Stephen Hawkin Vs Usain Bolt....

I know immediately who is of more value to society.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stephen Hawkin Vs Usain Bolt....

I know immediately who is of more value to society."

And going back to the OP, I know immediately which one of those I'd message back if they both messaged me on here

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Stephen Hawkin Vs Usain Bolt....

I know immediately who is of more value to society."

They make equal contribution but in different ways as far as I am concerned.

but, like Scarlett, I know who I would prefer to meet for a session.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stephen Hawkin Vs Usain Bolt....

I know immediately who is of more value to society.

And going back to the OP, I know immediately which one of those I'd message back if they both messaged me on here

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

"Stephen Hawkin Vs Usain Bolt....

I know immediately who is of more value to society.

They make equal contribution but in different ways as far as I am concerned.

but, like Scarlett, I know who I would prefer to meet for a session.

Ha... I know who my money is on in a race!

But you can't deny the contribution of Steves theories to mankind, the lives saved, improved, the minds expanded, the spring board given to us, to imagine further...

SH's impact and contribution to the human race is infinitely more significant than a runner... Good though he is.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Are we saying then that if either Steven Hawkins or Usain Bolt were on fab we could confidently expect both of them to start threads complaining that they couldn't get anyone to meet them? In response we would all have to explain that they were so far out of everyone's league that they couldn't expect any meet mortal to have sex with them, because on here that's what it comes down to.

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

"Are we saying then that if either Steven Hawkins or Usain Bolt were on fab we could confidently expect both of them to start threads complaining that they couldn't get anyone to meet them? In response we would all have to explain that they were so far out of everyone's league that they couldn't expect any meet mortal to have sex with them, because on here that's what it comes down to."

Good point, well made.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it all the time

Even some of the guys who mail me I wonder why because they can do better

Self doubt is just human nature all of us do it in one form or another"

Yup me too x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just start a conversation with them, if you're not their type they will soon say.

If you get a no you're no worse of than if you had said nothing.

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By *acLe0dMan
over a year ago

Preston

Sure who hasn't thought someone is out of their league, and yes you might have second thoughts about sending them a message. That being said however it's not always obvious what type the person you are messaging is attracted to. For all you know you might be the type they are attracted to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just start a conversation with them, if you're not their type they will soon say.

If you get a no you're no worse of than if you had said nothing."

I cry, stamp my feet & generally go in a strop if anyone says no to me

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

That's my point really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a single male just starting out im the big wide world of swinging, I am not that confident in myself, but the people I have met have made me feel better about who I am and why im here.

I know im not everyone's cuppa tea, just an average bloke, not thinking I can get to chat to a pretty lady at all, let alone meet one for fun!

All I can say is this, it's not how we all look, it's about who we are as a person, and just being me has got me some damn sexy times at the club I frequently go to.

I would never attempt to even speak to some of the gorgeous people I now call friends, thinking im way out of their league, just goes to show that im not as bad as I once thought I was.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just start a conversation with them, if you're not their type they will soon say.

If you get a no you're no worse of than if you had said nothing.

I cry, stamp my feet & generally go in a strop if anyone says no to me

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no

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No such thing about leagues just your type. I always try to punch above my weight. However, I love a challenge.

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