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"I think its very true, I get messages from men who have passed me by on other 'dating sites' good enough to meet for sex but not for dating. When they message on here after ignoring me on other sites (same pics and user name) they can actually get fairly shirty when I say no lol" im actually gobsmacked | |||
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"a chap actually said that to me last night and it made me think (after i blocked him ) that is it true for both sides i have my partner for life and i adore him - and we have met and played with people that i wouldnt consider 'dating' - but fun was brilliant perhaps he just said one of the things we know but said it in rather a crass way " we class ourselves as having fairly high standards and wouldnt meet anyone or a couple we didnt find attractive just to have fun! we dont have as many meets as most and were fairly startled to learn in another thread that some forum users have 2/3 meets a week. we must meet around 6/8 new couples a year but often meet a few of the people we have met before socially | |||
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"a chap actually said that to me last night and it made me think (after i blocked him ) that is it true for both sides i have my partner for life and i adore him - and we have met and played with people that i wouldnt consider 'dating' - but fun was brilliant perhaps he just said one of the things we know but said it in rather a crass way " What do you think it really means when someone posts "There are fewer women on here, they can afford to be fussy" | |||
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"well in swinging.. a female could have a profile that says the following: x67%,lsk and she would still get messages saying 'love your profile' 'you sound sexy' she could sit on cam in the chat room with a bin liner on her head and last nights pizza stuck to her face.. and she would still get .... Hi XXX looking good, Hi XXX you look hot, you looking for fun ??..... " actually sounds like a giggle i might try it to see if your right | |||
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"well in swinging.. a female could have a profile that says the following: x67%,lsk and she would still get messages saying 'love your profile' 'you sound sexy' she could sit on cam in the chat room with a bin liner on her head and last nights pizza stuck to her face.. and she would still get .... Hi XXX looking good, Hi XXX you look hot, you looking for fun ??..... actually sounds like a giggle i might try it to see if your right " enjoy xxx | |||
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"Women need a reason to have sex..... Men just need a place " is that true ? dont thay care ? | |||
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"well in swinging.. a female could have a profile that says the following: x67%,lsk and she would still get messages saying 'love your profile' 'you sound sexy' she could sit on cam in the chat room with a bin liner on her head and last nights pizza stuck to her face.. and she would still get .... Hi XXX looking good, Hi XXX you look hot, you looking for fun ??..... " Glad you've just said that, i was beginning to think the chat rooms were full of munters, must just be the bin liners and pizzas | |||
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"Wanted Dirty, horny, slutty bitch PM me please I can't pull a posh totty so I'm lowering the bar a bit " lol you can mmmmm would you not be put off licking if dirty , lol | |||
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"well in swinging.. a female could have a profile that says the following: x67%,lsk and she would still get messages saying 'love your profile' 'you sound sexy' she could sit on cam in the chat room with a bin liner on her head and last nights pizza stuck to her face.. and she would still get .... Hi XXX looking good, Hi XXX you look hot, you looking for fun ??..... actually sounds like a giggle i might try it to see if your right " it works! I was getting msgs like that a few weeks ago after hiding my profile lol | |||
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"Women need a reason to have sex..... Men just need a place is that true ? dont thay care ?" I think its not too inaccurate to say so A stiff dick has no conscience | |||
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"men shag women in swinging that are below their normal standards errrr if they come to shag in swinging that means they are not shagging elsewhere, so it follows that they have no "established" standard elsewhere. This means that those they shag on here will set their standard. This person was talking a load of bull, cloud cuckoo land and in his dreams methinks." That's incorrect though. I still go out with the lads and might pull a woman who isn't a swinger and sleep with her. So your totally wrong in what your saying. | |||
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"men shag women in swinging that are below their normal standards errrr if they come to shag in swinging that means they are not shagging elsewhere, so it follows that they have no "established" standard elsewhere. This means that those they shag on here will set their standard. This person was talking a load of bull, cloud cuckoo land and in his dreams methinks. That's incorrect though. I still go out with the lads and might pull a woman who isn't a swinger and sleep with her. So your totally wrong in what your saying. " what if you are the exception that proves the rule? | |||
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"men shag women in swinging that are below their normal standards errrr if they come to shag in swinging that means they are not shagging elsewhere, so it follows that they have no "established" standard elsewhere. This means that those they shag on here will set their standard. This person was talking a load of bull, cloud cuckoo land and in his dreams methinks. That's incorrect though. I still go out with the lads and might pull a woman who isn't a swinger and sleep with her. So your totally wrong in what your saying. what if you are the exception that proves the rule? " What a croc! do you think all single male swingers on here only sleep with swingers? Its pretty obvious you have been a couple for a long long time. | |||
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"men shag women in swinging that are below their normal standards errrr if they come to shag in swinging that means they are not shagging elsewhere, so it follows that they have no "established" standard elsewhere. This means that those they shag on here will set their standard. This person was talking a load of bull, cloud cuckoo land and in his dreams methinks. That's incorrect though. I still go out with the lads and might pull a woman who isn't a swinger and sleep with her. So your totally wrong in what your saying. what if you are the exception that proves the rule? What a croc! do you think all single male swingers on here only sleep with swingers? Its pretty obvious you have been a couple for a long long time." What's a croc sweetie? | |||
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"I think its very true, I get messages from men who have passed me by on other 'dating sites' good enough to meet for sex but not for dating. When they message on here after ignoring me on other sites (same pics and user name) they can actually get fairly shirty when I say no lol" I have had the same thing...lol... | |||
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"men shag women in swinging that are below their normal standards errrr if they come to shag in swinging that means they are not shagging elsewhere, so it follows that they have no "established" standard elsewhere. This means that those they shag on here will set their standard. This person was talking a load of bull, cloud cuckoo land and in his dreams methinks. That's incorrect though. I still go out with the lads and might pull a woman who isn't a swinger and sleep with her. So your totally wrong in what your saying. what if you are the exception that proves the rule? What a croc! do you think all single male swingers on here only sleep with swingers? Its pretty obvious you have been a couple for a long long time. What's a croc sweetie?" Answer the rest of the question and i may enlighten you. | |||
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"men shag women in swinging that are below their normal standards errrr if they come to shag in swinging that means they are not shagging elsewhere, so it follows that they have no "established" standard elsewhere. This means that those they shag on here will set their standard. This person was talking a load of bull, cloud cuckoo land and in his dreams methinks. That's incorrect though. I still go out with the lads and might pull a woman who isn't a swinger and sleep with her. So your totally wrong in what your saying. " Agreed, just because a guys on here that certainly doesnt mean hes not getting it elsewhere, i like to have my mind stimulated, something u cant just walk up to a lass on the 'outside' and say 'ey up luv, what kinda sexual games do you like and il see if we're compatible' croc | |||
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"men shag women in swinging that are below their normal standards errrr if they come to shag in swinging that means they are not shagging elsewhere, so it follows that they have no "established" standard elsewhere. This means that those they shag on here will set their standard. This person was talking a load of bull, cloud cuckoo land and in his dreams methinks." That's a ridiculous thing to say, are you serious? If you believe that then your completely misguided. | |||
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"maybe I sounded a little harsh in saying they were not shagging elsewhere? But to answer, no I don't think that all males on here only sleep with swingers (but probably most)and this is my opinion. When I met my partner I was not a swinger nor he. I was addressing the example the OP gave and judging by the account she gave he sounds a little bitter, so was just guessing really and perhaps empathising a little also. Sometimes that is appreciated. Life is too short to go around making peeps feel bad when you don't really need to and he should have kept his thoughts to himself, that would have been more gallant. Much better to try and "be nice" where possible. " I get your point but your well of the mark if you think single guys only get sex from swingers. How many moan that they have no luck on here? There must be a lot and they are not all celibate. You will find a more than half the single males will be on other sites that are not swinging related but you can hook up on. The gallant bit i get but hey you did say the guy was "talking a load of bull, cloud cuckoo land and in his dreams" that's not really gallant in any ones book is it? | |||
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"maybe I sounded a little harsh in saying they were not shagging elsewhere? But to answer, no I don't think that all males on here only sleep with swingers (but probably most)and this is my opinion. When I met my partner I was not a swinger nor he. I was addressing the example the OP gave and judging by the account she gave he sounds a little bitter, so was just guessing really and perhaps empathising a little also. Sometimes that is appreciated. Life is too short to go around making peeps feel bad when you don't really need to and he should have kept his thoughts to himself, that would have been more gallant. Much better to try and "be nice" where possible. " Some men dont take rejection well, i no some of the guys ive met on here would look straight threw me in a pub or club.At the moment though who cares as long as they can sexually satisfy me im not complaining. | |||
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"maybe I sounded a little harsh in saying they were not shagging elsewhere? But to answer, no I don't think that all males on here only sleep with swingers (but probably most)and this is my opinion. When I met my partner I was not a swinger nor he. I was addressing the example the OP gave and judging by the account she gave he sounds a little bitter, so was just guessing really and perhaps empathising a little also. Sometimes that is appreciated. Life is too short to go around making peeps feel bad when you don't really need to and he should have kept his thoughts to himself, that would have been more gallant. Much better to try and "be nice" where possible. I get your point but your well of the mark if you think single guys only get sex from swingers. How many moan that they have no luck on here? There must be a lot and they are not all celibate. You will find a more than half the single males will be on other sites that are not swinging related but you can hook up on. The gallant bit i get but hey you did say the guy was "talking a load of bull, cloud cuckoo land and in his dreams" that's not really gallant in any ones book is it? " Aye but I am making a commment not actually saying it to HIM. Anyway what's a croc? | |||
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"maybe I sounded a little harsh in saying they were not shagging elsewhere? But to answer, no I don't think that all males on here only sleep with swingers (but probably most)and this is my opinion. When I met my partner I was not a swinger nor he. I was addressing the example the OP gave and judging by the account she gave he sounds a little bitter, so was just guessing really and perhaps empathising a little also. Sometimes that is appreciated. Life is too short to go around making peeps feel bad when you don't really need to and he should have kept his thoughts to himself, that would have been more gallant. Much better to try and "be nice" where possible. Some men dont take rejection well, i no some of the guys ive met on here would look straight threw me in a pub or club.At the moment though who cares as long as they can sexually satisfy me im not complaining. " As a mature woman this is similar for me but I do think that softening criteria would be a much more "in the spirit of swinging" way to express things rather than "below standard". It's a bit horrible. | |||
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"maybe I sounded a little harsh in saying they were not shagging elsewhere? But to answer, no I don't think that all males on here only sleep with swingers (but probably most)and this is my opinion. When I met my partner I was not a swinger nor he. I was addressing the example the OP gave and judging by the account she gave he sounds a little bitter, so was just guessing really and perhaps empathising a little also. Sometimes that is appreciated. Life is too short to go around making peeps feel bad when you don't really need to and he should have kept his thoughts to himself, that would have been more gallant. Much better to try and "be nice" where possible. " Thankyou for the clarification and the slight retraction, I believe the only guys on here that only have sex with swingers are the married ones! Maybe a very small minority of singles. I agree that the guy referred to by the Op showed little tact and should have behaved in a nicer way. But that was his honest opinion. | |||
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"maybe I sounded a little harsh in saying they were not shagging elsewhere? But to answer, no I don't think that all males on here only sleep with swingers (but probably most)and this is my opinion. When I met my partner I was not a swinger nor he. I was addressing the example the OP gave and judging by the account she gave he sounds a little bitter, so was just guessing really and perhaps empathising a little also. Sometimes that is appreciated. Life is too short to go around making peeps feel bad when you don't really need to and he should have kept his thoughts to himself, that would have been more gallant. Much better to try and "be nice" where possible. I get your point but your well of the mark if you think single guys only get sex from swingers. How many moan that they have no luck on here? There must be a lot and they are not all celibate. You will find a more than half the single males will be on other sites that are not swinging related but you can hook up on. The gallant bit i get but hey you did say the guy was "talking a load of bull, cloud cuckoo land and in his dreams" that's not really gallant in any ones book is it? Aye but I am making a commment not actually saying it to HIM. Anyway what's a croc? " Lol It is an expression i came across when in the forces when you disagreed with something. The full version i think is a crock of cr*p but they used croc for short. | |||
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"maybe I sounded a little harsh in saying they were not shagging elsewhere? But to answer, no I don't think that all males on here only sleep with swingers (but probably most)and this is my opinion. When I met my partner I was not a swinger nor he. I was addressing the example the OP gave and judging by the account she gave he sounds a little bitter, so was just guessing really and perhaps empathising a little also. Sometimes that is appreciated. Life is too short to go around making peeps feel bad when you don't really need to and he should have kept his thoughts to himself, that would have been more gallant. Much better to try and "be nice" where possible. Some men dont take rejection well, i no some of the guys ive met on here would look straight threw me in a pub or club.At the moment though who cares as long as they can sexually satisfy me im not complaining. As a mature woman this is similar for me but I do think that softening criteria would be a much more "in the spirit of swinging" way to express things rather than "below standard". It's a bit horrible." totally agree theres was no need for him to react by putting that | |||
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"maybe I sounded a little harsh in saying they were not shagging elsewhere? But to answer, no I don't think that all males on here only sleep with swingers (but probably most)and this is my opinion. When I met my partner I was not a swinger nor he. I was addressing the example the OP gave and judging by the account she gave he sounds a little bitter, so was just guessing really and perhaps empathising a little also. Sometimes that is appreciated. Life is too short to go around making peeps feel bad when you don't really need to and he should have kept his thoughts to himself, that would have been more gallant. Much better to try and "be nice" where possible. Thankyou for the clarification and the slight retraction, I believe the only guys on here that only have sex with swingers are the married ones! Maybe a very small minority of singles. I agree that the guy referred to by the Op showed little tact and should have behaved in a nicer way. But that was his honest opinion. " That's a strange one. Why are they on here then if they are not going to have sex with swingers? (Confused of Kent) | |||
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"maybe I sounded a little harsh in saying they were not shagging elsewhere? But to answer, no I don't think that all males on here only sleep with swingers (but probably most)and this is my opinion. When I met my partner I was not a swinger nor he. I was addressing the example the OP gave and judging by the account she gave he sounds a little bitter, so was just guessing really and perhaps empathising a little also. Sometimes that is appreciated. Life is too short to go around making peeps feel bad when you don't really need to and he should have kept his thoughts to himself, that would have been more gallant. Much better to try and "be nice" where possible. Thankyou for the clarification and the slight retraction, I believe the only guys on here that only have sex with swingers are the married ones! Maybe a very small minority of singles. I agree that the guy referred to by the Op showed little tact and should have behaved in a nicer way. But that was his honest opinion. That's a strange one. Why are they on here then if they are not going to have sex with swingers? (Confused of Kent)" Why are you confused? Nobody has said they are not going to have sex with swingers. You said they ONLY have sex with swingers. For most that is a nonsense. | |||
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"ok I re read, I got it. Blonde moment. " My Iphone is so slow tonight, I'm about 2 posts behind. I think your spot on about the guy though, he was hurt by the rejection and behaved horribly. I think what's got to the Op though is that she's wondering whether or not it's true. | |||
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"I think men and women shag people who are different to their normal standards when swinging. Variety is the spice of life. I think using the word "below" suggests that they feel superior to that person and that's wrong in so many ways. Dating someone means you have to fill the gaps between shags with other non-sex stuff and yes we'd probably pick someone else to do that with, in the meantime there's nothing wrong with shagging like-minded people, of all looks, ages, builds etc." Well said i was thinking just the same | |||
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"Of course they do, they'll even do men too! its all a numbers game, they feel they have to prove they can meet someone and when the reality hits the drop in standards normally follow, and if they still struggle they’ll open other avenues and let other men suck them off, and claim they’re straighter than a straight thing, hey anything is better than nothing, and the following night they’ll be down the pub with their mates slagging of the 2 queers in the corner, or bragging about the old slapper he fucked in front of her husband the night before. The moral of the story, not all men here are swingers and appreciate swingers, they’re here simply for a quick fix. " yup | |||
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"I think you are on to something there this last few weeks I have had countless emails from young guys 18,19 and 20 and I know for a fact they would'nt look at me or touch me in the real world so why email me." Same here hence my abhorence towards them, they are the ones that make nasty comments about me, wouldnt want to arrange to meet one from here, then have they make "remarks" | |||
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" Why are you confused? Nobody has said they are not going to have sex with swingers. You said they ONLY have sex with swingers. For most that is a nonsense. " I'd agree with some of the fellas on here and say that I don't think men having sex with people who are 'below their normal standards' is something that is restricted to swinging but just an everyday fact of going out on the pull. If sex is on the cards then (to some) the standard is them having a pulse (I'm gonna exclude myself from that statement!). I was also thinking the other day are most of the single fellas on here because they/we are too socially inept to pull in other circumstances? I'm also going to exclude myself from that statement... | |||
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" we dont have as many meets as most and were fairly startled to learn in another thread that some forum users have 2/3 meets a week. we must meet around 6/8 new couples a year but often meet a few of the people we have met before socially " What do you mean by this? Do you mean that people who have regular meets are lowering their standards to keep up with the influx of meets they have (as you stated you were startled by this fact) or do you mean that because you dont swing very often, you keep to the few couples that you have vetted and met before and so you feel you are not lowering your standards. A lot of people prefer to have a few select regular swinging meets, and I guess this is safe in that you do fancy each other. For me its different as I like adventure and excitment. If I was to just have say 2 couples that we swing with, then it would become very samey and unoriginal for me and thats not what I get off on. Might as well be in a relationship with them. I like the unexpected. I, however, dont lower my standards to get that unexpected but then we are a couple, we have a vast array of choice. I can see the degree of truth in it for single men. If they get a return message off a woman, maybe they would swing with her as its the only message they've received. I agree with what someone said earlier in that its not lowering our choices but choosing something different than your usual type - a nicer way to think about it I guess. I get a fair amount of messages from younger men, why do they really want to swing with a woman like me - 18 or so years older than them | |||
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"Of course they do, they'll even do men too! its all a numbers game, they feel they have to prove they can meet someone and when the reality hits the drop in standards normally follow, and if they still struggle they’ll open other avenues and let other men suck them off, and claim they’re straighter than a straight thing, hey anything is better than nothing, and the following night they’ll be down the pub with their mates slagging of the 2 queers in the corner, or bragging about the old slapper he fucked in front of her husband the night before. The moral of the story, not all men here are swingers and appreciate swingers, they’re here simply for a quick fix. " Completely spot on | |||
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"To the OP, men like the one that messaged you are not what i would consider to be true swingers, cos in my very limited experience, true swingers really like women, and would never be so disrespectful. If they are just "vanilla's" that are 'chancing their arm' or just after straight no-strings sex, they seem to be more off-hand, and less mindful of the way they are perceived anyway. So there is some truth in what they say, as in they believe they are punching below their weight (i think) but they trully aren't worth your tears, more your pity xx" oh my darling xx no tears - just made me sit back and think a little xxx | |||
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"I've never been to a club, but I'd say that its definitely true in a lot of cases in real life. Many people have a set of standards for who they'd have in a relationship and who they'd fuck and if you stretched that to 'who they can fuck without anyone else finding out' that'd be a whole different kind of standard. Its sad, but its the reality - I imagine theres plenty of people who some wouldn't give a 2nd (or even 1st) look at in a social environment, but would happily shag if given half the chance. This type of behaviour means that some who usually wouldn't get much attention at all are flooded with it and thus can reject people they generally wouldn't dare to in real life, etc, etc. But hell, each to their own." This leads onto the people who moan about being ignored/rejected etc, because often they've tried their luck with someone they deemed 'below' what they usually aim for and being rejected from that person fills them with rage. The 'How dare they, I've lowered my standards for them' complex, haha. | |||
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"I've never been to a club, but I'd say that its definitely true in a lot of cases in real life. Many people have a set of standards for who they'd have in a relationship and who they'd fuck and if you stretched that to 'who they can fuck without anyone else finding out' that'd be a whole different kind of standard. Its sad, but its the reality - I imagine theres plenty of people who some wouldn't give a 2nd (or even 1st) look at in a social environment, but would happily shag if given half the chance. This type of behaviour means that some who usually wouldn't get much attention at all are flooded with it and thus can reject people they generally wouldn't dare to in real life, etc, etc. But hell, each to their own. This leads onto the people who moan about being ignored/rejected etc, because often they've tried their luck with someone they deemed 'below' what they usually aim for and being rejected from that person fills them with rage. The 'How dare they, I've lowered my standards for them' complex, haha." so funny | |||
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"Of course they do, they'll even do men too! its all a numbers game, they feel they have to prove they can meet someone and when the reality hits the drop in standards normally follow, and if they still struggle they’ll open other avenues and let other men suck them off, and claim they’re straighter than a straight thing, hey anything is better than nothing, and the following night they’ll be down the pub with their mates slagging of the 2 queers in the corner, or bragging about the old slapper he fucked in front of her husband the night before. The moral of the story, not all men here are swingers and appreciate swingers, they’re here simply for a quick fix. " Which is another reason we don't meet single guys and stick with long term couples. XXXX | |||
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" I was also thinking the other day are most of the single fellas on here because they/we are too socially inept to pull in other circumstances? I'm also going to exclude myself from that statement... " I think this is true of so many guys on here | |||
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"Hi everyone, first time on the forum threads, please be nice!!! " welcome to the forums. | |||
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"well in swinging.. a female could have a profile that says the following: x67%,lsk and she would still get messages saying 'love your profile' 'you sound sexy' she could sit on cam in the chat room with a bin liner on her head and last nights pizza stuck to her face.. and she would still get .... Hi XXX looking good, Hi XXX you look hot, you looking for fun ??..... " Now steady on. That's quite insulting. We are a couple who definitely do have high standards. We simply wouldn't go for any old pizza!!! It very much depends on the topping and whether it was a classical thin base. For example we get constant messages, winks and 'friends invites' from Papa John and Dom Ino asking when we're going to eatbut its always a thanks but no thanks | |||
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"well in swinging.. a female could have a profile that says the following: x67%,lsk and she would still get messages saying 'love your profile' 'you sound sexy' she could sit on cam in the chat room with a bin liner on her head and last nights pizza stuck to her face.. and she would still get .... Hi XXX looking good, Hi XXX you look hot, you looking for fun ??..... Now steady on. That's quite insulting. We are a couple who definitely do have high standards. We simply wouldn't go for any old pizza!!! It very much depends on the topping and whether it was a classical thin base. For example we get constant messages, winks and 'friends invites' from Papa John and Dom Ino asking when we're going to eatbut its always a thanks but no thanks " | |||
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"Sometimes it happens both ways on the same meet.. But then as we say in our profile it is now always looks that you an find sexually attractive.. But Jesus.. Well you know It would interesting to see if the same held true in a dark room scenario or blindfold where you don't actually see the pretty boy or girl or not the case.." | |||
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