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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Chatted to some nice people on here before, all getting on really well etc . Planning meets and wants then they mention bareback only. I'm not judging or anything but would like to get peoples opinion who only play bare back why this is. For some there is no negotiation on this matter. For me, there's no negotiation either. It's safe sex or no sex, regardless of how tempting or hot they may be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Correct. It's a very dangerous game to play. Never worth the risk, I see some people say they are tested once a month but that doesn't prevent them from contracting something.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love bareback no better feeling but with 1st meets always always safe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I love bareback no better feeling but with 1st meets always always safe "

But after that then it's ok ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh look.....another bb thread.

Yawn.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't get me wrong bareback is lovely but only ever with a trusted long term partner for me. I don't see the difference between 1st meet and 15th meet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I love bareback no better feeling but with 1st meets always always safe "

So does this mean any further meets and you would play bareback?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I love bareback no better feeling but with 1st meets always always safe

So does this mean any further meets and you would play bareback? "

Scarey...... Or just plain daft?

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

Only with my partner only.

Stifle the urge to yawn please - Remember, there are new forum users every day - so the thread may be new to them or they may have a slightly different take on it. Now I am sounding sanctimonious, lol, not like me at all ....

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman
over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

I prefer bareback

You're more at risk of being run over by a car so for me it's absolutely fine

However it's not risk free

But always preferable for me

And especially when you consider that most people on Fab play safe, tthen it's much less risky

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Correct. It's a very dangerous game to play. Never worth the risk, I see some people say they are tested once a month but that doesn't prevent them from contracting something. "

Totally agree with the above. It's too easy to get some truly unpleasant and in some cases chronic conditions. It's safer sex only, ever for me.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

their choice...... and good luck to them

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By *exy hot wife 84Couple
over a year ago

Stevenage


"Oh look.....another bb thread.

Yawn."

thank you for saying that! Saves Me saying it

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman
over a year ago

Tenbury Wells


"Correct. It's a very dangerous game to play. Never worth the risk, I see some people say they are tested once a month but that doesn't prevent them from contracting something.

Totally agree with the above. It's too easy to get some truly unpleasant and in some cases chronic conditions. It's safer sex only, ever for me."

Everything is treatable or curable

So

I'd happily take the risk after all, I'm not involved in any high risk hobbies lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Correct. It's a very dangerous game to play. Never worth the risk, I see some people say they are tested once a month but that doesn't prevent them from contracting something.

Totally agree with the above. It's too easy to get some truly unpleasant and in some cases chronic conditions. It's safer sex only, ever for me.

Everything is treatable or curable

So

I'd happily take the risk after all, I'm not involved in any high risk hobbies lol "

I am not a doctor but I really doubt that everything is curable. As far as I am aware, hepatitis and HIV are not curable issues. As far as risk is concerned, I suspect that having unprotected sex with a stranger is akin to running in front of a bus. Generally, a bad thing to try.

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster


"Correct. It's a very dangerous game to play. Never worth the risk, I see some people say they are tested once a month but that doesn't prevent them from contracting something.

Totally agree with the above. It's too easy to get some truly unpleasant and in some cases chronic conditions. It's safer sex only, ever for me.

Everything is treatable or curable

So

I'd happily take the risk after all, I'm not involved in any high risk hobbies lol

I am not a doctor but I really doubt that everything is curable. As far as I am aware, hepatitis and HIV are not curable issues. As far as risk is concerned, I suspect that having unprotected sex with a stranger is akin to running in front of a bus. Generally, a bad thing to try."

you are correct they are not curable but can be managed for a good quality of life after contracting it. also herpes isn't classified as curable it can be treated during a breakout but once contracted breakouts can happen randomly over the course of the rest of your life.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman
over a year ago

Tenbury Wells


"Correct. It's a very dangerous game to play. Never worth the risk, I see some people say they are tested once a month but that doesn't prevent them from contracting something.

Totally agree with the above. It's too easy to get some truly unpleasant and in some cases chronic conditions. It's safer sex only, ever for me.

Everything is treatable or curable

So

I'd happily take the risk after all, I'm not involved in any high risk hobbies lol

I am not a doctor but I really doubt that everything is curable. As far as I am aware, hepatitis and HIV are not curable issues. As far as risk is concerned, I suspect that having unprotected sex with a stranger is akin to running in front of a bus. Generally, a bad thing to try."

I did say

Treatable OR curable

And herpes is already in 80% of the population, so anyone who kisses there boyfriend can catch it

And I've tried jumping in front of trains when I was unwell

Definitely not keen to do it again

Bareback sex?

Definitely I'll do it again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Correct. It's a very dangerous game to play. Never worth the risk, I see some people say they are tested once a month but that doesn't prevent them from contracting something.

Totally agree with the above. It's too easy to get some truly unpleasant and in some cases chronic conditions. It's safer sex only, ever for me.

Everything is treatable or curable

So

I'd happily take the risk after all, I'm not involved in any high risk hobbies lol

I am not a doctor but I really doubt that everything is curable. As far as I am aware, hepatitis and HIV are not curable issues. As far as risk is concerned, I suspect that having unprotected sex with a stranger is akin to running in front of a bus. Generally, a bad thing to try.

I did say

Treatable OR curable

And herpes is already in 80% of the population, so anyone who kisses there boyfriend can catch it

And I've tried jumping in front of trains when I was unwell

Definitely not keen to do it again

Bareback sex?

Definitely I'll do it again "

Your choice. I will keep clear of it. My choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah, share the goodness X

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By *adysueandneroCouple
over a year ago

witney


"Chatted to some nice people on here before, all getting on really well etc . Planning meets and wants then they mention bareback only. I'm not judging or anything but would like to get peoples opinion who only play bare back why this is. For some there is no negotiation on this matter. For me, there's no negotiation either. It's safe sex or no sex, regardless of how tempting or hot they may be "

They were honest about it. Don't see what your problem is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Chatted to some nice people on here before, all getting on really well etc . Planning meets and wants then they mention bareback only. I'm not judging or anything but would like to get peoples opinion who only play bare back why this is. For some there is no negotiation on this matter. For me, there's no negotiation either. It's safe sex or no sex, regardless of how tempting or hot they may be "

Mmmm...or another billboard screaming "hey ladies, come fuck me I'm safe"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

...also, I like to think I've talked to a 'fair' few people on here and I haven't encountered a single person that's 'insisted' on sex before meeting let alone bareback...you must be finding so rare ones buddy..)

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman
over a year ago

Tenbury Wells


"Correct. It's a very dangerous game to play. Never worth the risk, I see some people say they are tested once a month but that doesn't prevent them from contracting something.

Totally agree with the above. It's too easy to get some truly unpleasant and in some cases chronic conditions. It's safer sex only, ever for me.

Everything is treatable or curable

So

I'd happily take the risk after all, I'm not involved in any high risk hobbies lol

I am not a doctor but I really doubt that everything is curable. As far as I am aware, hepatitis and HIV are not curable issues. As far as risk is concerned, I suspect that having unprotected sex with a stranger is akin to running in front of a bus. Generally, a bad thing to try.

I did say

Treatable OR curable

And herpes is already in 80% of the population, so anyone who kisses there boyfriend can catch it

And I've tried jumping in front of trains when I was unwell

Definitely not keen to do it again

Bareback sex?

Definitely I'll do it again

Your choice. I will keep clear of it. My choice."

Good

Its all about choice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Correct. It's a very dangerous game to play. Never worth the risk, I see some people say they are tested once a month but that doesn't prevent them from contracting something.

Totally agree with the above. It's too easy to get some truly unpleasant and in some cases chronic conditions. It's safer sex only, ever for me.

Everything is treatable or curable

So

I'd happily take the risk after all, I'm not involved in any high risk hobbies lol

I am not a doctor but I really doubt that everything is curable. As far as I am aware, hepatitis and HIV are not curable issues. As far as risk is concerned, I suspect that having unprotected sex with a stranger is akin to running in front of a bus. Generally, a bad thing to try.

I did say

Treatable OR curable

And herpes is already in 80% of the population, so anyone who kisses there boyfriend can catch it

And I've tried jumping in front of trains when I was unwell

Definitely not keen to do it again

Bareback sex?

Definitely I'll do it again

Your choice. I will keep clear of it. My choice.

Good

Its all about choice "

Spot on. Adult choice. We are clear what we like so people can choose. We'll use condoms in some cases and rarely bb, but it's the way we would always play in an ideal world.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"...also, I like to think I've talked to a 'fair' few people on here and I haven't encountered a single person that's 'insisted' on sex before meeting let alone bareback...you must be finding so rare ones buddy..)"

Why people feel the need to have a go at others I really don't know. I posted this to try and get some understanding of why some people will only do bareback and will not partake in safe sex.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"...also, I like to think I've talked to a 'fair' few people on here and I haven't encountered a single person that's 'insisted' on sex before meeting let alone bareback...you must be finding so rare ones buddy..)"

It's a strange one, as the op implies he has had all several of his contacts insist on it. Unusual statistical fluke?

Hepatitis won't leave most people a carrier - there's A, B, C etc. Usually will develop an immune response and cleared. Good reminder to get B vaccine if you can.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"...also, I like to think I've talked to a 'fair' few people on here and I haven't encountered a single person that's 'insisted' on sex before meeting let alone bareback...you must be finding so rare ones buddy..)

It's a strange one, as the op implies he has had all several of his contacts insist on it. Unusual statistical fluke?

Hepatitis won't leave most people a carrier - there's A, B, C etc. Usually will develop an immune response and cleared. Good reminder to get B vaccine if you can."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In answer to the question of why some play bareback and not 'safe', here's our take.

There are two types of people that play bareback, utter skanks, and the very careful. We won't be going near no skanks.

Condoms do not stop all things. People that consider condoms as 'safe' tend to take more risks than barebackers, and as such are a risk themselves.

Someone insisting on condoms is accepting that the person they are about to have sex with is a risk. Condoms split all the time.

Examine properly during foreplay...any lumps blotches rashes smells scratches or goo head for the door, simple as that.

End of the day it's a divisive issue, so no problems with other people playing it their way, but there are two sides of the coin and 'safe sex' is not necessarily 'safe'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tut tut I don't know u naughty lot ....

All you barebackers need some education !!

Bareback is great and only for me and my mrs as we've been together 20 years

So grab yourself a 6 pack .... Not the beer type .. The joeys type

And have some good clean safe fucking with strangers only

just think we're as the person been with your fucking !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tut tut I don't know u naughty lot ....

All you barebackers need some education !!

Bareback is great and only for me and my mrs as we've been together 20 years

So grab yourself a 6 pack .... Not the beer type .. The joeys type

And have some good clean safe fucking with strangers only

just think we're as the person been with your fucking !!!

"

See and again judging. Now bare in mind we play safe... But... We aren't stupid enough to think that having safer sex means its guaranteed to be clean.

How do you know where anyone has been before you..? Do you use protection for oral or fore play.. do you wash before swapping ... As I can tell you now in all my years I've never had a guy wash his hands before playing with me after he has been with his partner. Or wash his mouth. It's straight from them to me and maybe back again.

So by all means say that bare backing isn't for you but all of us in this lifestyle are taking risks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Correct. It's a very dangerous game to play. Never worth the risk, I see some people say they are tested once a month but that doesn't prevent them from contracting something.

Totally agree with the above. It's too easy to get some truly unpleasant and in some cases chronic conditions. It's safer sex only, ever for me.

Everything is treatable or curable

So

I'd happily take the risk after all, I'm not involved in any high risk hobbies lol

I am not a doctor but I really doubt that everything is curable. As far as I am aware, hepatitis and HIV are not curable issues. As far as risk is concerned, I suspect that having unprotected sex with a stranger is akin to running in front of a bus. Generally, a bad thing to try."

Statistically the chance of a woman contracting HIV from an already infected man is 1:1,000. If he is circumcised it is lower at about 1:1,600. Man from a woman is 1:2000. Male to male far higher.

About 1:640 people in the Uk are HIV positive so, statistically, as a woman, you have a 1:640,000 chance of contracting HIV. But could you get it on the first go. HIV persons in the UK now have the same life expectancey as others.

By way of comparrison the chances of dying in a car accident in the UK are circa 1:229, killed by lightening 1,300,000 and being hit by a bus around 1:2,000,000. Dying of cancer 1:5.

You pays your money and takes your choice. But if the fear of STIs is high in you then you must also consider avoiding other far more risky activities. If you smoke then bareback all the way, your number is already up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The only safe sex is no sex at all the condom only reduces the chance it doesn't STOP you from getting pregnant or getting a disease. The male condom is 98% effective which means you can still catch something or get pregnant even when using a condom.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For some its a lifestyle choice. Some cuckold have part of that as a certain criteria passed down by Mrs Hotwife.

Generally and this is only our opinion, it has to do with some form of control - of the hubby half for a cuckold, or subby half if hubby is a Dom.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What you find is people of a certain age group had condoms drilled into them, at a time when the powers that be saw AIDS as potentially wiping out the human race, condoms were put into peoples heads in a big way.

What you find in reality is, people that insist on 'safe sex' will happily finger someone who they consider a risk, then go and finger their wife without washing their hands. Then happily have sex with someone else they consider a risk, and think putting a condom on nullifies that risk. Nope. This is why we're not interested in sex with someone who insists on condoms, because they are a greater risk than they realise, and we don't take risks.

We play bareback and our safety net is filtering who we actually have sex with. Sure the condom is an additional safety aspect but then it becomes a case of doing it for the sake of doing it, and in that case why bother? Rather stick with each other than wear condoms just for someone to pump at you until they come. A fulfilling sexual experience it is not, and we're here for sexual fun, not an ego trip.

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By *adysueandneroCouple
over a year ago

witney


"What you find is people of a certain age group had condoms drilled into them, at a time when the powers that be saw AIDS as potentially wiping out the human race, condoms were put into peoples heads in a big way.

What you find in reality is, people that insist on 'safe sex' will happily finger someone who they consider a risk, then go and finger their wife without washing their hands. Then happily have sex with someone else they consider a risk, and think putting a condom on nullifies that risk. Nope. This is why we're not interested in sex with someone who insists on condoms, because they are a greater risk than they realise, and we don't take risks.

We play bareback and our safety net is filtering who we actually have sex with. Sure the condom is an additional safety aspect but then it becomes a case of doing it for the sake of doing it, and in that case why bother? Rather stick with each other than wear condoms just for someone to pump at you until they come. A fulfilling sexual experience it is not, and we're here for sexual fun, not an ego trip."

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

It's all about the level of risk you accept and what you find fun.

People always use these threads to argue but I don't see the point.

I'm fascinated by the accusation of some people being skanks. How that's defined. Why it's bad and not just another's sexuality choice? How you filter that with such confidence?

I would ask why those who use condoms feel the need to question those who don't? And why bareback people feel the need to say condom users are not sensual and are unsafe.

Surely if neither side plays with the other this is all assumptions and generalizations and it's just an argument.

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By *adysueandneroCouple
over a year ago

witney


"It's all about the level of risk you accept and what you find fun.

People always use these threads to argue but I don't see the point.

I'm fascinated by the accusation of some people being skanks. How that's defined. Why it's bad and not just another's sexuality choice? How you filter that with such confidence?

I would ask why those who use condoms feel the need to question those who don't? And why bareback people feel the need to say condom users are not sensual and are unsafe.

Surely if neither side plays with the other this is all assumptions and generalizations and it's just an argument."

The majority of these threads are started by single guys that are trying to lead everyone to think that they are ultra safe and clean hoping it will get them more meets.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely if neither side plays with the other this is all assumptions and generalizations and it's just an argument."

It's a debate, or a discussion. It's what forums are for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Correct. It's a very dangerous game to play. Never worth the risk, I see some people say they are tested once a month but that doesn't prevent them from contracting something.

Totally agree with the above. It's too easy to get some truly unpleasant and in some cases chronic conditions. It's safer sex only, ever for me.

Everything is treatable or curable

So

I'd happily take the risk after all, I'm not involved in any high risk hobbies lol

I am not a doctor but I really doubt that everything is curable. As far as I am aware, hepatitis and HIV are not curable issues. As far as risk is concerned, I suspect that having unprotected sex with a stranger is akin to running in front of a bus. Generally, a bad thing to try.

I did say

Treatable OR curable

And herpes is already in 80% of the population, so anyone who kisses there boyfriend can catch it

And I've tried jumping in front of trains when I was unwell

Definitely not keen to do it again

Bareback sex?

Definitely I'll do it again "

Wonders how many others have made a choice......to use the block button?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whether treatable or cureable some conditions such as HIV and Hepatitis are life changers. People will always take risks but with risk is potential consequence. A life time of taking drugs, potential issues with travel, getting life insurance, the list is endless.

All adults so do as you wish. But if you play bareback you have a moral duty to inform ALL future contacts you are in a high risk group.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Correct. It's a very dangerous game to play. Never worth the risk, I see some people say they are tested once a month but that doesn't prevent them from contracting something.

Totally agree with the above. It's too easy to get some truly unpleasant and in some cases chronic conditions. It's safer sex only, ever for me.

Everything is treatable or curable

So

I'd happily take the risk after all, I'm not involved in any high risk hobbies lol "

you should watch the:

Dallas buyers club

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Correct. It's a very dangerous game to play. Never worth the risk, I see some people say they are tested once a month but that doesn't prevent them from contracting something.

Totally agree with the above. It's too easy to get some truly unpleasant and in some cases chronic conditions. It's safer sex only, ever for me.

Everything is treatable or curable

So

I'd happily take the risk after all, I'm not involved in any high risk hobbies lol

I am not a doctor but I really doubt that everything is curable. As far as I am aware, hepatitis and HIV are not curable issues. As far as risk is concerned, I suspect that having unprotected sex with a stranger is akin to running in front of a bus. Generally, a bad thing to try."

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By *onnie and JohnCouple
over a year ago

WILTSHIRE

hi all i do lov this type of post, and the look at me profile / help..connie x

now where that block button...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Chatted to some nice people on here before, all getting on really well etc . Planning meets and wants then they mention bareback only. I'm not judging or anything but would like to get peoples opinion who only play bare back why this is. For some there is no negotiation on this matter. For me, there's no negotiation either. It's safe sex or no sex, regardless of how tempting or hot they may be "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

U know it already its a swinging site stay safe an use a rubber

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London


"Correct. It's a very dangerous game to play. Never worth the risk, I see some people say they are tested once a month but that doesn't prevent them from contracting something.

Totally agree with the above. It's too easy to get some truly unpleasant and in some cases chronic conditions. It's safer sex only, ever for me.

Everything is treatable or curable

So

I'd happily take the risk after all, I'm not involved in any high risk hobbies lol

I am not a doctor but I really doubt that everything is curable. As far as I am aware, hepatitis and HIV are not curable issues. As far as risk is concerned, I suspect that having unprotected sex with a stranger is akin to running in front of a bus. Generally, a bad thing to try.

Statistically the chance of a woman contracting HIV from an already infected man is 1:1,000. If he is circumcised it is lower at about 1:1,600. Man from a woman is 1:2000. Male to male far higher.

About 1:640 people in the Uk are HIV positive so, statistically, as a woman, you have a 1:640,000 chance of contracting HIV. But could you get it on the first go. HIV persons in the UK now have the same life expectancey as others.

By way of comparrison the chances of dying in a car accident in the UK are circa 1:229, killed by lightening 1,300,000 and being hit by a bus around 1:2,000,000. Dying of cancer 1:5.

You pays your money and takes your choice. But if the fear of STIs is high in you then you must also consider avoiding other far more risky activities. If you smoke then bareback all the way, your number is already up. "

Nobody is ever logical enough to follow the odds...

I used to travel to some pretty far flung places and always looked in the CIA fact book at the HIV/AIDS statistics.

Also I suspect if you broke down the demographics, you would find certain sexual diseases concentrated in particular groups of society.

I think everyone hates the condoms stupidness, but we all know we have to do it...

I always play safe, but can't help but think sooner it's discussed without judgement and immediate condemnation of those who do so, the closer we are to solving the problem.

For instance, why on a site that appears and claims to be a community, that is not simply a sex site, of which there are 100s. Why is there no HIV charity donation button?

It only takes £1 from each...

Maybe that should be a joining cost?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tut tut I don't know u naughty lot ....

All you barebackers need some education !!

Bareback is great and only for me and my mrs as we've been together 20 years

So grab yourself a 6 pack .... Not the beer type .. The joeys type

And have some good clean safe fucking with strangers only

just think we're as the person been with your fucking !!!

See and again judging. Now bare in mind we play safe... But... We aren't stupid enough to think that having safer sex means its guaranteed to be clean.

How do you know where anyone has been before you..? Do you use protection for oral or fore play.. do you wash before swapping ... As I can tell you now in all my years I've never had a guy wash his hands before playing with me after he has been with his partner. Or wash his mouth. It's straight from them to me and maybe back again.

So by all means say that bare backing isn't for you but all of us in this lifestyle are taking risks "

Absolutely correct. I think it is laughable when swingers start pompously lecturing other swingers about safe sex.

If that is your sole criteria. Stay at home, close the curtains & have a wank.

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan
over a year ago

London

3 things that plague humankind I would like to see an end to in my lifetime:

1. Alzheimer's - Nothing scares me more than I or someone I love becoming a husk.

2. HIV/AIDS - We have become complacent about an issue that prevents us from doing what our body's are designed for.

3. Amputees - With 3D printing, micro motors & nano machines, there is no reason, that we can't start to look at how we build new body parts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All adults so do as you wish. But if you play bareback you have a moral duty to inform ALL future contacts you are in a high risk group."

If you've ever licked or fingered a bare pussy or wanked or sucked a bare cock without a mouth/hand condom then you are also a high risk group. Higher risk as you think you're safe when you are not. Only difference is you are judgemental on other approaches to the issue.

Someone who plays bareback and gets regular checkups is far safer than someone who goes round willy nilly through multiple partners thinking because they wore a condom for one aspect of sex that they've got some kind of invulnerability shield on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"3 things that plague humankind I would like to see an end to in my lifetime:

1. Alzheimer's - Nothing scares me more than I or someone I love becoming a husk.

2. HIV/AIDS - We have become complacent about an issue that prevents us from doing what our body's are designed for.

3. Amputees - With 3D printing, micro motors & nano machines, there is no reason, that we can't start to look at how we build new body parts."

Personally I would like to see an end to sanctimonious posturing added to that list

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By *abulous cleavageWoman
over a year ago

Central

We all have a choice whether to use a condom or not. I choose to as I want to minimise the risk of catching something as much as possible. I'm the only person who can be responsible for my sexual health, no one else. I don't understand why people would not use one and have unprotected sex with someone the don't know very little about. How could you ever know what their sexual history is? You can't is the answer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"3 things that plague humankind I would like to see an end to in my lifetime:

1. Alzheimer's - Nothing scares me more than I or someone I love becoming a husk.

2. HIV/AIDS - We have become complacent about an issue that prevents us from doing what our body's are designed for.

3. Amputees - With 3D printing, micro motors & nano machines, there is no reason, that we can't start to look at how we build new body parts."

Incidentally the sanctimonious posturing comment wasn't directed at you

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By *L RogueMan
over a year ago

London

Each to their own. You're responsible for your own sexual health. Don't like it? Then steer clear of this lifestyle.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


" Statistically the chance of a woman contracting HIV from an already infected man is 1:1,000. If he is circumcised it is lower at about 1:1,600. Man from a woman is 1:2000. Male to male far higher.

About 1:640 people in the Uk are HIV positive so, statistically, as a woman, you have a 1:640,000 chance of contracting HIV. But could you get it on the first go. HIV persons in the UK now have the same life expectancey as others.

By way of comparrison the chances of dying in a car accident in the UK are circa 1:229, killed by lightening 1,300,000 and being hit by a bus around 1:2,000,000. Dying of cancer 1:5.

You pays your money and takes your choice. But if the fear of STIs is high in you then you must also consider avoiding other far more risky activities. If you smoke then bareback all the way, your number is already up. "

You see?

This is exactly why these threads are never the same, there is often an interesting fact or new _iewpoint to discover within if you're prepared to wade through the 'yawn's.

Thanks Makat, I've been searching in vain for these figures, ever since someone else quoted the 1 in 12 figure, that scared the bejesus out of us.

The trouble with Google is often you need to choose your search term carefully.

Anyway, transmission rates depend on many variables, and people like us like to know how best to reduce the risks.

So, yes.1 in 1250, but in certain scenarios this can be as low as 1 in 5. Yes to 1 in 640, but in certain groups this can fall to 1 in 12.

Suddenly a combined risk of 1 in 60 doesn't look quite so insignificant.

Its also interesting that washing your fingers isn't as important as not-brushing your teeth!

Mr ddc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Chatted to some nice people on here before, all getting on really well etc . Planning meets and wants then they mention bareback only. I'm not judging or anything but would like to get peoples opinion who only play bare back why this is. For some there is no negotiation on this matter. For me, there's no negotiation weither. It's safe sex or no sex, regardless of how tempting or hot they may be "
with you on that one ..

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


" I'm not judging or anything but would like to get peoples opinion who only play bare back why this is."

Sorry OP, back to you: as I understand it

Some men find a difference with the loss of sensation a condom brings (personally, anything that delays....); some find the process of stopping and putting one on risks their erection; some women can actually feel the man's orgasm, but only without a condom; some people like the 'cream-pie'; some people feels it gives a false sense of security; some people like the added sense of danger/naughtiness.

There are many reasons, but like you say, so long as you don't judge, and everyone respects each other's boundaries, all is good imho.

Mr ddc

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By *vgloryholebs16TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol.

Here we go again! What is the problem? just move on. If anyone should whinge its the bareback clan,who have far less meets to choose from..I would say a huge percentage of folks on here are lookin for safer sex,leave the minorities to fend for themselves..Regardless of the dangers,which can be very over exaggerated,sex will always be about risk taking,even when you have the info..same as,smoking,drugs,sun bathing,over eating etc...

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By *L RogueMan
over a year ago

London


"All adults so do as you wish. But if you play bareback you have a moral duty to inform ALL future contacts you are in a high risk group.

If you've ever licked or fingered a bare pussy or wanked or sucked a bare cock without a mouth/hand condom then you are also a high risk group. Higher risk as you think you're safe when you are not. Only difference is you are judgemental on other approaches to the issue.

Someone who plays bareback and gets regular checkups is far safer than someone who goes round willy nilly through multiple partners thinking because they wore a condom for one aspect of sex that they've got some kind of invulnerability shield on."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In answer to the question of why some play bareback and not 'safe', here's our take.

There are two types of people that play bareback, utter skanks, and the very careful. We won't be going near no skanks.

Condoms do not stop all things. People that consider condoms as 'safe' tend to take more risks than barebackers, and as such are a risk themselves.

Someone insisting on condoms is accepting that the person they are about to have sex with is a risk. Condoms split all the time.

Examine properly during foreplay...any lumps blotches rashes smells scratches or goo head for the door, simple as that.

End of the day it's a divisive issue, so no problems with other people playing it their way, but there are two sides of the coin and 'safe sex' is not necessarily 'safe'."

Oh please most men don't show symptoms... Whatever the reason for the this post is it highlighted how mis-educated people are about stis

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like everything in life its about choices, if both parties want bb then so be it, I've had people who put safe sex as an option on their profile ask if I'm ok with bb.

I don't think anyone will argue that bb feels better than using rubbers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like it bare cos it feels better

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By *razedcatMan
over a year ago

London / Herts

This topic crops up far too many times on these forums. I think everyone on here, barebacker or not, is aware of the pros and cons. It really does not need repeating on the forums.

Transparency is the best thing now, really. Those who go bare should be upfront about it. Those who wrap up should accept other people's life choices, refraining from saying why they think bareback is a bad practice.

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By *on1Man
over a year ago

spain

Rudelett tut tut

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By *on1Man
over a year ago

spain

But life is game yes ?

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By *on1Man
over a year ago

spain

Would you have sex with a tramp? Situation moments yes no. Your judgement call at that moment in time im afraid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This topic crops up far too many times on these forums. I think everyone on here, barebacker or not, is aware of the pros and cons. It really does not need repeating on the forums.

Transparency is the best thing now, really. Those who go bare should be upfront about it."

Had some private messages from people who are now converting to bareback as they find condoms spoil the sexual experience. If you've seen the issue before and don't want to discuss it may I suggest you go to the next thread.

Transparency is a good point. People should clearly state their preference and indeed a bareback only tickbox would be great alongside a search filter.

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By *mallteaserWoman
over a year ago

Central

Life is all about choices, easy as that xxx

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