FabSwingers.com forum: racism

By *igh N Mighty OP Man
over a year ago

City

Why should woman have to justify that they are not racist just because they state they dont want to meet Asian or Black men??

Why can't a woman say no Asian or black men???

P's . .Am not racist

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Why should woman have to justify that they are not racist just because they state they dont want to meet Asian or Black men??

Why can't a woman say no Asian or black men???

P's . .Am not racist "

They shouldn't.

They can.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They don't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get this from time to time. Thing is as Mr well knows I turn down 99% of the white guys for not being my type too... As it comes down to sexual preference.

Mostly people take it okay... But it's only been Asian guys that seem to have a go at me for having that choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People just like to be on the safe side to pre-empt "You're so racist!" messages for silly people who can't take no for an answer.

I don't worry about it and don't think the profile writers are racist and neither should they.

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By *exy hot wife 84Couple
over a year ago

Stevenage

That's YOUR preference! Any bloke who then brings out the racist card is a bully trying to exploit something to there advantage! Block them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?

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By *igh N Mighty OP Man
over a year ago

City

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i had this in a club the other night, i told a white guy my preference is to only sleep with black men. he looked at me funny and said thats a bit racist isnt it... well no its not its what i like and what the hubby likes to watch. everyone is entitled to what they like best x

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff

"Why should woman have to justify that they are not racist just because they state they dont want to meet Asian or Black men??

Why can't a woman say no Asian or black men???

P's . .Am not racist "

No blacks or asians please...

Because it comes across as racist..remove it from your profile,and you'll have less agro.you can then tell them "uh,no thanks,and its not because you are black,or Asian but that you are ugly,and I don't want your dingaling in me"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

shouldnt hve to remove it from ur profile. like many people say no single guys... but still get bombarded with megs from them. its all about preference. i personally would not remove anything off my profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They don't. They can and they do. And they don't care what those that think it's racist think anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't consider a sexual preference as racism. If that was the case then you could accuse those who don't want to meet various genders of being sexist too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't like the racial stereotyping that inevitably goes with most people's 'preference' on this site. So I would stay away from people who expressed those kinds of preferences.

Nobody has to justify it to me though. It's just that my own preferences isn't for people who make those kinds of judgements or who find a very narrow spectrum of people attractive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?"

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

Another touchy subject about this admin should remove all that can spark racist remarks or them that want to play the racist card

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't like the racial stereotyping that inevitably goes with most people's 'preference' on this site. So I would stay away from people who expressed those kinds of preferences.

Nobody has to justify it to me though. It's just that my own preferences isn't for people who make those kinds of judgements or who find a very narrow spectrum of people attractive."

I don't like the assumption that it's based on stereotype.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't like the racial stereotyping that inevitably goes with most people's 'preference' on this site. So I would stay away from people who expressed those kinds of preferences.

Nobody has to justify it to me though. It's just that my own preferences isn't for people who make those kinds of judgements or who find a very narrow spectrum of people attractive."

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over a year ago

"I don't like the racial stereotyping that inevitably goes with most people's 'preference' on this site. So I would stay away from people who expressed those kinds of preferences.

Nobody has to justify it to me though. It's just that my own preferences isn't for people who make those kinds of judgements or who find a very narrow spectrum of people attractive.

I don't like the assumption that it's based on stereotype....."

It most often is though.

Eg. 'I only sleep with black men because they have big cocks.'

Or. 'I won't sleep with Asian men because they have small cocks.'

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?"

Ever thought it might be out of courtesy to them to save them wasted time and effort messaging in the first place?

Just a thought!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?

Ever thought it might be out of courtesy to them to save them wasted time and effort messaging in the first place?

Just a thought!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?

Ever thought it might be out of courtesy to them to save them wasted time and effort messaging in the first place?

Just a thought!

I thought they were still messaging and asking for reasons and that was the point of the post?

Just a thought

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By *ythenshawefredMan
over a year ago

stockport

"I don't like the racial stereotyping that inevitably goes with most people's 'preference' on this site. So I would stay away from people who expressed those kinds of preferences.

Nobody has to justify it to me though. It's just that my own preferences isn't for people who make those kinds of judgements or who find a very narrow spectrum of people attractive.

I don't like the assumption that it's based on stereotype.....

It most often is though.

Eg. 'I only sleep with black men because they have big cocks.'

Or. 'I won't sleep with Asian men because they have small cocks.'"

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?"

Umm. Good point.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't like the racial stereotyping that inevitably goes with most people's 'preference' on this site. So I would stay away from people who expressed those kinds of preferences.

Nobody has to justify it to me though. It's just that my own preferences isn't for people who make those kinds of judgements or who find a very narrow spectrum of people attractive.

I don't like the assumption that it's based on stereotype.....

It most often is though.

Eg. 'I only sleep with black men because they have big cocks.'

Or. 'I won't sleep with Asian men because they have small cocks.'"

This is what makes me laugh the most. It's other people that think that not those of us that choose to have sex with black guys. I've slept with enough to know that stereotype is a myth, so why assume I would think it true?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't like the racial stereotyping that inevitably goes with most people's 'preference' on this site. So I would stay away from people who expressed those kinds of preferences.

Nobody has to justify it to me though. It's just that my own preferences isn't for people who make those kinds of judgements or who find a very narrow spectrum of people attractive.

I don't like the assumption that it's based on stereotype.....

It most often is though.

Eg. 'I only sleep with black men because they have big cocks.'

Or. 'I won't sleep with Asian men because they have small cocks.'"

why do you assume its to doo with cock size rather than general attraction, or lack of it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't like the racial stereotyping that inevitably goes with most people's 'preference' on this site. So I would stay away from people who expressed those kinds of preferences.

Nobody has to justify it to me though. It's just that my own preferences isn't for people who make those kinds of judgements or who find a very narrow spectrum of people attractive.

I don't like the assumption that it's based on stereotype.....

It most often is though.

Eg. 'I only sleep with black men because they have big cocks.'

Or. 'I won't sleep with Asian men because they have small cocks.'

I can only go on what people state out loud.

If you're not one of those people then I'm not really sure why you're defending yourself?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't like the racial stereotyping that inevitably goes with most people's 'preference' on this site. So I would stay away from people who expressed those kinds of preferences.

Nobody has to justify it to me though. It's just that my own preferences isn't for people who make those kinds of judgements or who find a very narrow spectrum of people attractive.

I don't like the assumption that it's based on stereotype.....

It most often is though.

Eg. 'I only sleep with black men because they have big cocks.'

Or. 'I won't sleep with Asian men because they have small cocks.'

why do you assume its to doo with cock size rather than general attraction, or lack of it?"

Because that's often what people state.

I also find it impossible to believe that you could write off a large portion of the population based solely on their skin colour. And as I said, that's just somebody that I'm personally unlikely to find mentally attractive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't like the racial stereotyping that inevitably goes with most people's 'preference' on this site. So I would stay away from people who expressed those kinds of preferences.

Nobody has to justify it to me though. It's just that my own preferences isn't for people who make those kinds of judgements or who find a very narrow spectrum of people attractive.

I don't like the assumption that it's based on stereotype.....

It most often is though.

Eg. 'I only sleep with black men because they have big cocks.'

Or. 'I won't sleep with Asian men because they have small cocks.'

I can only go on what people state out loud.

If you're not one of those people then I'm not really sure why you're defending yourself?"

I'm not defending myself, I'm questioning your assumptions.

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By *rSuave88Man
over a year ago

Mirfield

Preferences are preferences and u cant do much about that. But its not nice seeing 'no asians' or 'no blacks' on a profile as your judging a person based on the colour of their skin without giving them a chance. I just ignore profiles like these as thats not the type of people id wanna be involved with anyhow. There are plenty of open minded people on here if u look in the right places though.

But like i said preferences are preferences and if people wanna stereotype then go for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not defending myself, I'm questioning your assumptions."

My assumptions have come from things that people have said in person, in forums and on profiles.

I didn't say it was true of everyone, just a large enough proportion that people who say such things go on my 'avoid' list.

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By *orthyorkypairCouple
over a year ago

North Yorkshire

"shouldnt hve to remove it from ur profile. like many people say no single guys... but still get bombarded with megs from them. its all about preference. i personally would not remove anything off my profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Women can say no blackmen, no whitemen, no Asians

just like people say no bi men, no large people, no ts or tv, no men, no woman etc etc

people shouldn't get offended and use the race card when there not within the persons preference.move on to another profile it's not racism its a filter in most cases

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By *orthyorkypairCouple
over a year ago

North Yorkshire

"Preferences are preferences and u cant do much about that. But its not nice seeing 'no asians' or 'no blacks' on a profile as your judging a person based on the colour of their skin without giving them a chance. I just ignore profiles like these as thats not the type of people id wanna be involved with anyhow. There are plenty of open minded people on here if u look in the right places though.

But like i said preferences are preferences and if people wanna stereotype then go for it."

by the same token then it is not nice to see "no oldies" or "no redheads" both of which i have seen on profiles and before anyone says it we are not racist our son in law is the nicest guy anyone could want to meetor have married to your daughter and is ASIAN!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't like the racial stereotyping that inevitably goes with most people's 'preference' on this site. So I would stay away from people who expressed those kinds of preferences.

Nobody has to justify it to me though. It's just that my own preferences isn't for people who make those kinds of judgements or who find a very narrow spectrum of people attractive.

I don't like the assumption that it's based on stereotype.....

It most often is though.

Eg. 'I only sleep with black men because they have big cocks.'

Or. 'I won't sleep with Asian men because they have small cocks.'

why do you assume its to doo with cock size rather than general attraction, or lack of it?

Because that's often what people state.

just because its not your preference, doesn't mean its impossible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not defending myself, I'm questioning your assumptions.

My assumptions have come from things that people have said in person, in forums and on profiles.

I didn't say it was true of everyone, just a large enough proportion that people who say such things go on my 'avoid' list."

Well that's fine, just don't assume that everyone with a certain preference is basing it on racial stereotypes. Some of us have a little more intelligence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't like the racial stereotyping that inevitably goes with most people's 'preference' on this site. So I would stay away from people who expressed those kinds of preferences.

Nobody has to justify it to me though. It's just that my own preferences isn't for people who make those kinds of judgements or who find a very narrow spectrum of people attractive.

I don't like the assumption that it's based on stereotype.....

It most often is though.

Eg. 'I only sleep with black men because they have big cocks.'

Or. 'I won't sleep with Asian men because they have small cocks.'

why do you assume its to doo with cock size rather than general attraction, or lack of it?

Because that's often what people state.

just because its not your preference, doesn't mean its impossible.

Do you keep a shade card in your handbag? Request a DNA test before having sex with someone to check their heritage?

(I live with a Roma Gypsy who is darker than most Indians and yet as 'English' as they come - he's from Leeds in fact. He's not Indian, yet most people who don't find 'Indian skin colour' attractive wouldn't have the same problem with him.)

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"I don't consider a sexual preference as racism. If that was the case then you could accuse those who don't want to meet various genders of being sexist too. "

Indeed you could and it probably is.

The question is not surly whether making a choice, having a preference, discriminating (call it what you want) on grounds of race, sex or sexual orientation is not racist or sexist because, by the dictionary definition of those words, it clearly is. The question is surely whether a person has the right to make that choice, have that preference or discriminate in that way. And just as clearly they absolutely do. How could anyone possibly argue the contrary. Are they seriously suggesting that men should sleep with other men not because they want to but because they should so as not to be sexist. Or that gay people should be forced to sleep with members of the opposite sex for the same reason. So surly the same must apply to sex and racism. It's not always wrong to discriminate on grounds of sex or race. If you don't fancy it don't do it and stop worrying about whether it racist, sexist or any otherist. It's your body and your choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?"

As it saves wasted messages

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"I don't like the racial stereotyping that inevitably goes with most people's 'preference' on this site. So I would stay away from people who expressed those kinds of preferences.

Nobody has to justify it to me though. It's just that my own preferences isn't for people who make those kinds of judgements or who find a very narrow spectrum of people attractive."

But I also agree with this.

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

"Why should woman have to justify that they are not racist just because they state they dont want to meet Asian or Black men??

Why can't a woman say no Asian or black men???

P's . .Am not racist "

P.P.S. you're not a woman either

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?

Ever thought it might be out of courtesy to them to save them wasted time and effort messaging in the first place?

Just a thought!

I thought they were still messaging and asking for reasons and that was the point of the post?

Just a thought"

The opening post doesn't mention any statement being on the profile though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?

As it saves wasted messages "

Oh dear, the point is that they are still sending messages and asking why?

are you racist?

Should I state in my profile that I won't shag Stoke City fans or whatever to save wasted messages? Cuz I wouldnt

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?

As it saves wasted messages

Oh dear, the point is that they are still sending messages and asking why?

are you racist?

Should I state in my profile that I won't shag Stoke City fans or whatever to save wasted messages? Cuz I wouldnt

That's a clear case of footballism. You should be made to shag the first Stoke City supporter we find (and of course regardless of either the sex, race or sexual orientation of that supporter)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who cares? If you aren't there type you aren't there type for whatever reason that might be.

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?

As it saves wasted messages

Oh dear, the point is that they are still sending messages and asking why?

are you racist?

Should I state in my profile that I won't shag Stoke City fans or whatever to save wasted messages? Cuz I wouldnt

Where has anyone (except you) said 'they' are still sending messages?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ffs their lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?

As it saves wasted messages

Oh dear, the point is that they are still sending messages and asking why?

are you racist?

Should I state in my profile that I won't shag Stoke City fans or whatever to save wasted messages? Cuz I wouldnt

Where has anyone (except you) said 'they' are still sending messages?

So where are they stating they don't meet black or asian men if not on a profile? And who are they justifying not being a racist to if nobody has messaged to ask why? Somebody surely?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?

As it saves wasted messages

Oh dear, the point is that they are still sending messages and asking why?

are you racist?

Should I state in my profile that I won't shag Stoke City fans or whatever to save wasted messages? Cuz I wouldnt

Where has anyone (except you) said 'they' are still sending messages?

Both Total Deviant and the OP suggested that that was happening in their posts. I clearly got the impression from their posts that they were getting messages from black or Asian guys asking why they had been ruled out.

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?

As it saves wasted messages

Oh dear, the point is that they are still sending messages and asking why?

are you racist?

Should I state in my profile that I won't shag Stoke City fans or whatever to save wasted messages? Cuz I wouldnt

Where has anyone (except you) said 'they' are still sending messages?

So where are they stating they don't meet black or asian men if not on a profile? And who are they justifying not being a racist to if nobody has messaged to ask why? Somebody surely?"

By message perhaps? Or in a chatroom. Or face to face in a club.

Have you checked the profiles of anyone who has stated they are getting messages to see if they have any statements?

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?

As it saves wasted messages

Oh dear, the point is that they are still sending messages and asking why?

are you racist?

Should I state in my profile that I won't shag Stoke City fans or whatever to save wasted messages? Cuz I wouldnt

Where has anyone (except you) said 'they' are still sending messages?

The OP didn't state it.

The other profile is hidden so there's no way to see if they're helping themselves by mentioning it in their profile.

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By *epper123Woman
over a year ago

London

"Women can say no blackmen, no whitemen, no Asians

just like people say no bi men, no large people, no ts or tv, no men, no woman etc etc

people shouldn't get offended and use the race card when there not within the persons preference.move on to another profile it's not racism its a filter in most cases"

Personally I think the curtness with which it is stated is offensive. I lived in the States for a while and sentences such as 'no blacks/no Asians' smack of the sloganistic language of segregation - there must be a nicer way to say it. I have said it before on the forums, there are black men and women in our generation who have experienced this type of segregation in the US and other parts of the world, you can have a preference, but perhaps consider how you phrase it? (Just going to re-check my profile, I don't think I say 'no whites' !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you wonet meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?

As it saves wasted messages

Oh dear, the point is that they are still sending messages and asking why?

are you racist?

Should I state in my profile that I won't shag Stoke City fans or whatever to save wasted messages? Cuz I wouldnt

Where has anyone (except you) said 'they' are still sending messages?

So where are they stating they don't meet black or asian men if not on a profile? And who are they justifying not being a racist to if nobody has messaged to ask why? Somebody surely?

By message perhaps? Or in a chatroom. Or face to face in a club.

Have you checked the profiles of anyone who has stated they are getting messages to see if they have any statements?

Sorry, you've lost me there.

Maybe I am making assumptions but do you really think I am the only one on this thread to think that way? And if in a msg

then somebody is still replying with why? Same with chat room or club

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Women can say no blackmen, no whitemen, no Asians

just like people say no bi men, no large people, no ts or tv, no men, no woman etc etc

people shouldn't get offended and use the race card when there not within the persons preference.move on to another profile it's not racism its a filter in most cases

I don't think there is a 'nice' way to say "I don't fancy you because you're the wrong colour", Is there?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?

As it saves wasted messages

Oh dear, the point is that they are still sending messages and asking why?

are you racist?

Should I state in my profile that I won't shag Stoke City fans or whatever to save wasted messages? Cuz I wouldnt

Where has anyone (except you) said 'they' are still sending messages?

The OP didn't state it.

The other profile is hidden so there's no way to see if they're helping themselves by mentioning it in their profile.

Like I said, their posts gave me and others the impression that that is what they were saying. Maybe they could clarify for us?

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By *epper123Woman
over a year ago

London

"Women can say no blackmen, no whitemen, no Asians

just like people say no bi men, no large people, no ts or tv, no men, no woman etc etc

people shouldn't get offended and use the race card when there not within the persons preference.move on to another profile it's not racism its a filter in most cases

I don't think there is a 'nice' way to say "I don't fancy you because you're the wrong colour", Is there?"

I think I say it quite nicely on my profile (don't all look at once), but then again I say what my preference is, but still meet people outside of that preference ..... just because I am such a nice person

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Maybe it's just me but this is one of those 'problems' people mention that's easily avoided and dealt with.

State your preferences clearly in your profile text.

If people choose to ignore them and message anyway then how hard is it just to delete a message with a click of a button and if preferred block?

Some people don't read profiles before messaging - that will ways be the case. Others will question your preferences.

But if you don't respond/react then what pain does it really cause?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe it's just me but this is one of those 'problems' people mention that's easily avoided and dealt with.

State your preferences clearly in your profile text.

If people choose to ignore them and message anyway then how hard is it just to delete a message with a click of a button and if preferred block?

Some people don't read profiles before messaging - that will ways be the case. Others will question your preferences.

But if you don't respond/react then what pain does it really cause?

Isn't that basically what I said?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Women can say no blackmen, no whitemen, no Asians

just like people say no bi men, no large people, no ts or tv, no men, no woman etc etc

people shouldn't get offended and use the race card when there not within the persons preference.move on to another profile it's not racism its a filter in most cases

I don't think there is a 'nice' way to say "I don't fancy you because you're the wrong colour", Is there?

So am I (said hopefully).

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over a year ago

"Women can say no blackmen, no whitemen, no Asians

just like people say no bi men, no large people, no ts or tv, no men, no woman etc etc

people shouldn't get offended and use the race card when there not within the persons preference.move on to another profile it's not racism its a filter in most cases

I don't think there is a 'nice' way to say "I don't fancy you because you're the wrong colour", Is there?

So am I (said hopefully).

No! You said I should be made to shag a Stoke City fan! How twisted and depraved are you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Women can say no blackmen, no whitemen, no Asians

just like people say no bi men, no large people, no ts or tv, no men, no woman etc etc

people shouldn't get offended and use the race card when there not within the persons preference.move on to another profile it's not racism its a filter in most cases

I don't think there is a 'nice' way to say "I don't fancy you because you're the wrong colour", Is there?

I looked. The way you have done it is pretty damn perfect.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Don't have a problem with people showing preferences.... In fact I wish More people would as at least you know what they are looking for and gives you an inside look at their personality

Having a preference and how that preference is expressed are two different things

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never really had a preference on colour of someone's skin. More so on the way a person communicates. If I did meet couples and they stated on their profile no black or asian men I'd probably avoid them.

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over a year ago

"I don't like the racial stereotyping that inevitably goes with most people's 'preference' on this site. So I would stay away from people who expressed those kinds of preferences.

Nobody has to justify it to me though. It's just that my own preferences isn't for people who make those kinds of judgements or who find a very narrow spectrum of people attractive."

totally agree with her...

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Women can say no blackmen, no whitemen, no Asians

just like people say no bi men, no large people, no ts or tv, no men, no woman etc etc

people shouldn't get offended and use the race card when there not within the persons preference.move on to another profile it's not racism its a filter in most cases

I don't think there is a 'nice' way to say "I don't fancy you because you're the wrong colour", Is there?

So am I (said hopefully).

No! You said I should be made to shag a Stoke City fan! How twisted and depraved are you!

It gets worse. I want it videoed to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So does a woman who isonly looking for other women to have fun with make them sexist, it is personal choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One more time please

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over a year ago

"Why should woman have to justify that they are not racist just because they state they dont want to meet Asian or Black men??

Why can't a woman say no Asian or black men???

P's . .Am not racist "

Me as a black male don't see it as racist just like me saying i don't want a black lady am i racist for saying that or am into white ladies wat is racist

its a joke but everybody got there type me curve white ladies.... Now am i racist for saying that?

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

Racism is discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Therefore to discriminate against someone based on the colour of their skin is racist.

That does not mean you are forced to meet sleep with someone it simply means you cannot use that to differentiate who you will meet or who you will not meet.

You have to use more PC terminology.

As the Government web site states-

“It is against the law to discriminate against anyone because of:

• age

• being or becoming a transsexual person

• being married or in a civil partnership

• being pregnant or having a child

• disability

• race including colour, nationality, ethnic or national origin

• religion, belief or lack of religion/belief

• sex

• sexual orientation

These are called ‘protected characteristics’.

You’re protected from discrimination in these situations:

• at work

• in education

• as a consumer

• when using public services

• when buying or renting property

• as a member or guest of a private club or association “

Note Fab Swingers comes under the category of an association

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

Wait,... so people that state "No black men" are inherently breaking the law?

Where do I speed dial the racism police so they can come and investigate this outlandish act of racism on Fabs!

People, end of the day if the person doesn't wanna shag ya (for whatever reason) then move on and save yourselves a world of grief and misery. Think of all the people you're missing out shagging by hanging on to this "one that got away". Lol

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By *anDare70Man
over a year ago

kirkby

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?

As it saves wasted messages

Oh dear, the point is that they are still sending messages and asking why?

are you racist?

Should I state in my profile that I won't shag Stoke City fans or whatever to save wasted messages? Cuz I wouldnt

I'd shag a Stoke supporter. I like little boobs so no cups would be a plus for me

Said only in Mischief.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"So does a woman who isonly looking for other women to have fun with make them sexist, it is personal choice."

Yes but well within her, or anybody else's, rights.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Why should woman have to justify that they are not racist just because they state they dont want to meet Asian or Black men??

Why can't a woman say no Asian or black men???

P's . .Am not racist

Me as a black male don't see it as racist just like me saying i don't want a black lady am i racist for saying that or am into white ladies wat is racist

its a joke but everybody got there type me curve white ladies.... Now am i racist for saying that?"

You're not racist but your preferences is. It's not always wrong to discriminate on grounds of race or anything else. It's your body, your choice.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

Who cares - do what you want, it's your profile - block and move on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldnt fuck a midget, does that make me sizeist?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Racism is discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Therefore to discriminate against someone based on the colour of their skin is racist.

That does not mean you are forced to meet sleep with someone it simply means you cannot use that to differentiate who you will meet or who you will not meet.

You have to use more PC terminology.

No you don't. You are legally allowed to discriminate on any grounds you choose, including race, sex or sexual orientation, when it comes to who you choose as your sexual partner. It's your body and your choice.

As the Government web site states-

“It is against the law to discriminate against anyone because of:

• age

• being or becoming a transsexual person

• being married or in a civil partnership

• being pregnant or having a child

• disability

• race including colour, nationality, ethnic or national origin

• religion, belief or lack of religion/belief

• sex

• sexual orientation

These are called ‘protected characteristics’.

You’re protected from discrimination in these situations:

• at work

• in education

• as a consumer

• when using public services

• when buying or renting property

• as a member or guest of a private club or association “

Note Fab Swingers comes under the category of an association

Being a member of the Fab site and possibly joining a club, may be being part of an association but who you choose to associate with and possibly have sex with remains completely your choice and you remain free to discriminate on any grounds you choose.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Wait,... so people that state "No black men" are inherently breaking the law?

No they are not. By the definition of the words racial discrimination it is but it's not racial discrimination according to the legal definition which, quite rightly, does include choosing sexual partners. It's your body and totally your choice who you choose to bed and you can discriminate on all and any grounds you choose.

Where do I speed dial the racism police so they can come and investigate this outlandish act of racism on Fabs!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

because of the genetic diversity of the human race, I would never discount every member of a particular race by basically saying I wouldn't be attracted to them because of(insert reason).

yes there are preferences...but how you communicate these is often why people forget their negativity breeds negativity.

personally I dont care, I have no real specifics, apart from female.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"because of the genetic diversity of the human race, I would never discount every member of a particular race by basically saying I wouldn't be attracted to them because of(insert reason).

yes there are preferences...but how you communicate these is often why people forget their negativity breeds negativity.

personally I dont care, I have no real specifics, apart from female.

Same here. But in this one area, I would absolutely defend anyone's right to choose a partner as they feel fit. The alternative is far worse.

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over a year ago

"because of the genetic diversity of the human race, I would never discount every member of a particular race by basically saying I wouldn't be attracted to them because of(insert reason).

yes there are preferences...but how you communicate these is often why people forget their negativity breeds negativity.

personally I dont care, I have no real specifics, apart from female.

Hear, hear.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because they should 'ave a say 'bout what goes inta them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why should woman have to justify that they are not racist just because they state they dont want to meet Asian or Black men??

Why can't a woman say no Asian or black men???

P's . .Am not racist "

Who says they can't? ....

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By *layfulserfMan
over a year ago

Northolt

When profiles say that they only want "fit men", "hung men", "VWE", "not into overweight men" or "men who are bicurious", or if they re only looking for "BBC" they are saving my time and I dont message them

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

@UnleashedCraken

I completely agree with your points. I think where some people are getting confused with the issue of "preference vs discrimination" is the context.

Can what is on offer be described as a fundamental right that is being denied to one or more demographics?

For example: "Anyone can sit anywhere on the bus, except black people... back of the bus!"

The above example would be racist, a shag on the other hand is not a "fundamental right to all" and therefore, and reason to deny any one or more groups would be well within the person's right, not discrimination.

That's the way I look at it.

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

"Racism is discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Therefore to discriminate against someone based on the colour of their skin is racist.

That does not mean you are forced to meet sleep with someone it simply means you cannot use that to differentiate who you will meet or who you will not meet.

You have to use more PC terminology.

Yes as we said it is your body and your choice but if you base your choice on colour or racism it shows you are racist.

That does not mean you have broken the law.

It does not mean you cannot choose who you sleep with, and it does not mean you have to justify yourself to anyone.

It does however mean you are showing racism.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Racism is discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Therefore to discriminate against someone based on the colour of their skin is racist.

That does not mean you are forced to meet sleep with someone it simply means you cannot use that to differentiate who you will meet or who you will not meet.

You have to use more PC terminology.

Yes as we said it is your body and your choice but if you base your choice on colour or racism it shows you are racist.

That does not mean you have broken the law.

It does not mean you cannot choose who you sleep with, and it does not mean you have to justify yourself to anyone.

It does however mean you are showing racism.

I agree with the caveat that just because you find someone more attractive because of the colour of their skin, which is clearly a choice based on race, so by definition is racist, it does not mean the person making the choice is either wrong or a racist. It may be no more than a preference such as discriminating on the basis of the colour of a person's eyes or hair and, if so, no more wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why should woman have to justify that they are not racist just because they state they dont want to meet Asian or Black men??

Why can't a woman say no Asian or black men???

P's . .Am not racist

Me as a black male don't see it as racist just like me saying i don't want a black lady am i racist for saying that or am into white ladies wat is racist

its a joke but everybody got there type me curve white ladies.... Now am i racist for saying that?

You're not racist but your preferences is. It's not always wrong to discriminate on grounds of race or anything else. It's your body, your choice. "

preference is not racist, I like blackmen and it is going to take me years of fun of interracial partys and seeing many blackmen before I hang up my zimmer, im just not interested in having sex with white men

I've met many blackmen who don't meet blackwoman and I don't meet whitemen neither are racist its just our choice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A racist is someone who is rude and nasty not someone who just simply putting no blacks no asians on there profile

in my eyes its a filter to say please dont message me as I'm not interested.if there rude about it then you are within your right to call the person a racist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?"

What twaddle folk can and should be able to put on profile what they wish and if they say no asian blacks or whites thats their choice.

The folk in wrong are those messaging those involved they have the problems and should not use the race card nor should the pc brigade criticise personal choice.

If I come across a profile that says no white men I respect their choice its not rocket science.

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

Why are only white people called racist are all these people that have moved to our country can not speak our tongue saying what nice white people we are why do admin keep putting this subject on it,s very touch and causes a lot of bad feeling i am not racist in any way

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Why are only white people called racist are all these people that have moved to our country can not speak our tongue saying what nice white people we are why do admin keep putting this subject on it,s very touch and causes a lot of bad feeling i am not racist in any way "

Well that's just a load of rubbish. It's not just white people who are called racists. Any discriminating on the grounds of race is possibly a racist regardless of their own race or colour.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"A racist is someone who is rude and nasty not someone who just simply putting no blacks no asians on there profile

A racist may be all of those things but the dictionary definition of a racist is someone who discriminates (as in makes a choice or shows a preference) based on a person's race. Unfortunately you cannot change the meaning of words just because you don't like them.

But the real argument is not whether the preference or choice is racist, by definition it clearly is, but whether the person making the choice or expressing the preference is a racist and whether they have the right to make the choice or show the preference. To which the answer to the first is 'possibly but probably not a racist' and the second is 'absolutely totally and emphatically yes they do have the right to make that choice'

in my eyes its a filter to say please dont message me as I'm not interested.if there rude about it then you are within your right to call the person a racist"

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

Yorkshire man living and Lancashire called a Yorkshire bastard every day is that not racist getting told to fuck off back over the hill

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over a year ago

"Yorkshire man living and Lancashire called a Yorkshire bastard every day is that not racist getting told to fuck off back over the hill "

No, it's not racist.

Yorkshire isn't a race.

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By *ieutenantMan
over a year ago

london

Yes. Remember Racist and Bigoted mind also hide under the banner of Preference and choice. I don't need any lecture on this issue.

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over a year ago

"Yes. Remember Racist and Bigoted mind also hide under the banner of Preference and choice. I don't need any lecture on this issue. "

That's fucking bollocks.

I'm not sexually attracted to Black Women...

If it was Naomi Campbell. .I still wouldn't be interested in sex.

Does that make me racist.

I call it preference. .. am I "hiding under the banner of racism"?...

Is my Dad who is also Black and exactly the same as me being only attracted to white women. .. is he bigoted? ....

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By *gNeMan
over a year ago

Harrogate

Obviously it's racist. Discrimination based on race = racism.

Obviously everyone is entitled to discriminate in their own personal lives though. Especially being a single woman on this site, it's a necessity. Almost every profile has some kind of ism at play, cockism, ageism, racism, heightism, sizeism, even came across level of fitnessism hah.

It's the intent behind the aforementioned isms which dictates the morality, something which political correctness ignores entirely.

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By *gNeMan
over a year ago

Harrogate

"Yorkshire man living and Lancashire called a Yorkshire bastard every day is that not racist getting told to fuck off back over the hill

No, it's not racist.

Yorkshire isn't a race."

No your right, example of extreme countyism there!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A racist is someone who is rude and nasty not someone who just simply putting no blacks no asians on there profile

in my eyes its a filter to say please dont message me as I'm not interested.if there rude about it then you are within your right to call the person a racist"

dictionaries are very outdated as look at the negative context.i feel I have the right to show my preference by my profile name,words on my profile which do not put another race down, its just clear whst I am here for so used as a filter

I know myself its a preference to travel 2hrs to parties to be in the company of blackmen, rather than take up offers of sex by whitemen local to me which would be easier lol i chat to many whitemen here and at partys as I'm a friendly person definitely not racist.As I said a racist is someone who is nasty and rude

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By *gNeMan
over a year ago

Harrogate

"A racist is someone who is rude and nasty not someone who just simply putting no blacks no asians on there profile

in my eyes its a filter to say please dont message me as I'm not interested.if there rude about it then you are within your right to call the person a racist

I think you have a very valid point here. The word racist in its purest form could be used to describe yourself i.e discriminating sexually based on race. However I think what you are arguing is that the word racist has some many negative connotations associated with it, that the meaning of the word has evolved to actually include all of those connotations. It's called semantic shift, and actually I think you are right.

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By *ieutenantMan
over a year ago

london

"Yes. Remember Racist and Bigoted mind also hide under the banner of Preference and choice. I don't need any lecture on this issue.

That's fucking bollocks.

I'm not sexually attracted to Black Women...

If it was Naomi Campbell. .I still wouldn't be interested in sex.

Does that make me racist.

I call it preference. .. am I "hiding under the banner of racism"?...

Is my Dad who is also Black and exactly the same as me being only attracted to white women. .. is he bigoted? ...."

You may call it bullocks. You can only judge for yourself not others. If yours is truly base on choice and preference fair enough. everyone have the right to choose what attract them sexually. If based on hate and superiority to me that is pure racist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Our profile is hidden currently due to family issues... But it says that my preference is for white straight guys and that it's just what I prefer.

I to be honest turn down plenty of white guys for not being what I want in a man..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like to suck black dick i think they look sexy. Like a sex toy. I don't care about his personality i don't want to get to know him. I suck it because i enjoy it. If he enjoys it to then good for him. I would say i completely objectify him. As i would do if i fucked a barbie look-a-like. I'm here for my sexual pleasure and I'm not scared to admit it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

thats what I don't like is the negativity of the word racist used in the choice of who we want to sleep with.

If people think I'm racist(due to what is written in a dictionary) so be it but please don't put me in the same context as a nasty rude racist as that's not me or many of the lady's I know who have the same preference

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I like to suck black dick i think they look sexy. Like a sex toy. I don't care about his personality i don't want to get to know him. I suck it because i enjoy it. If he enjoys it to then good for him. I would say i completely objectify him. As i would do if i fucked a barbie look-a-like. I'm here for my sexual pleasure and I'm not scared to admit it.

Wow , I think my wife may have hacked into your profile and written this post !

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Yes. Remember Racist and Bigoted mind also hide under the banner of Preference and choice. I don't need any lecture on this issue.

That's fucking bollocks.

I'm not sexually attracted to Black Women...

If it was Naomi Campbell. .I still wouldn't be interested in sex.

Does that make me racist.

I call it preference. .. am I "hiding under the banner of racism"?...

Is my Dad who is also Black and exactly the same as me being only attracted to white women. .. is he bigoted? ...."

He didn't say people who showing a preference or making a choice based on race or colour were racist and bigoted. He said racists and bigots often hide under the banner of preference and choice. And he's right, they often do but that does not mean all.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Obviously it's racist. Discrimination based on race = racism.

It's the intent behind the aforementioned isms which dictates the morality, something which political correctness ignores entirely. "

It's nothing to do with being politically correct just some people being politically stupid.

But apart from the PC bit I totally agree with your post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are some white people I don't fancy. There are some white people I do fancy.

There are some black people I don't fancy, there are done I do.

There are done Asian people I don't fancy, there are some that I do.

There are some Chinese people I don't fancy, there are some I do.

I just can't understand how someone can preclude an entire race without judging each person on their own merits.

And I think this is what annoys those who don't rule out entire races and feels those who do are being racist.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

thats what I don't like is the negativity of the word racist used in the choice of who we want to sleep with.

I'll concede that the word racist does now also mean what you say with all the negative connotations you describe but it still also means what it always meant, that is making a choice or expressing a preference based on race.

So what I am saying is that making that choice or expressing that preference is racist by the original meaning of the word but it does not mean the person is a racist by what the word has now come to mean also.

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over a year ago

"I don't like the racial stereotyping that inevitably goes with most people's 'preference' on this site. So I would stay away from people who expressed those kinds of preferences.

Nobody has to justify it to me though. It's just that my own preferences isn't for people who make those kinds of judgements or who find a very narrow spectrum of people attractive.

I don't like the assumption that it's based on stereotype.....

It most often is though.

Eg. 'I only sleep with black men because they have big cocks.'

Or. 'I won't sleep with Asian men because they have small cocks.'

this^

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over a year ago

thats what I don't like is the negativity of the word racist used in the choice of who we want to sleep with.

yes I understand where your coming from, however the word racist is not a nice way of saying who I am, as I don't do it in a negative way and am not rude to white men, I just choose not to sleep with them

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By *gNeMan
over a year ago

Harrogate

"Obviously it's racist. Discrimination based on race = racism.

It's the intent behind the aforementioned isms which dictates the morality, something which political correctness ignores entirely.

It's nothing to do with being politically correct just some people being politically stupid.

But apart from the PC bit I totally agree with your post."

This whole debate has everything to do with political correctness though. It was also my main point on another recent thread regarding isms (I'm sure you can guess which one). Everybody discriminates, the word is nearly synonymous with preference, it's human nature. Some people feel the need to come along and slap an ism after certain types of discrimination, and it becomes unequivocally bad, almost evil to do something which we all naturally do.

An ism is only morally wrong if there is prejudice or some other unsavoury agenda behind it.

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By *unseeker34Couple
over a year ago

Newcastle

"I don't like the racial stereotyping that inevitably goes with most people's 'preference' on this site. So I would stay away from people who expressed those kinds of preferences.

Nobody has to justify it to me though. It's just that my own preferences isn't for people who make those kinds of judgements or who find a very narrow spectrum of people attractive.

I don't like the assumption that it's based on stereotype.....

It most often is though.

Eg. 'I only sleep with black men because they have big cocks.'

Or. 'I won't sleep with Asian men because they have small cocks.'

why do you assume its to doo with cock size rather than general attraction, or lack of it?

Because that's often what people state.

just because its not your preference, doesn't mean its impossible.

Do you keep a shade card in your handbag? Request a DNA test before having sex with someone to check their heritage?

I would guess it's not about skin colour at all!?! I find dark skinned 'white' men attractive.......I find pale skinned white men not so much, I also find dark hair on men AND women my preference. I don't find ginger hair attractive. Generally I don't find Asian men attractive......not due to skin colour but more size/stature & facial features. I also tend to find black men are not physically my preference......again, not due to darker skin......confusing but NOT down to skin colour. I might be very racist in my preferences, but I like what I like and it's not stereotyping, it is what it is......different races DO actually have a difference in appearance/features, it's not cos the food they eat or the beliefs they have.....it's basic shallow looks for me.

On another note tho, I don't want to hurt ANYONES feelings so would never put no blacks, Asians, gingers or blondes etc on my profile. I would just choose not to meet them (that's a lie, I would meet a blonde).

Anyway, my problem was with defining race as simply skin colour.......

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By *rivate auditionsMan
over a year ago

West Midlands

Why bother filling in profiles if you cannot put down your preferences & your dislikes?.

It makes it all so irrelevant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its not a race issue for me more a religious thing in that I will not meet not meet muslims.

Fact is females are deemed and portayed as second class and treated different to men ie not meant to be in mosque same time as men or same room without permission.

Bit of background to this is my daughter and her partner he is muslim and a great lad and father to my grankids.

They been together a very long time and his family have and still do try to get her to convert without success as no benefit whatsoever as we are not religious. Her partners dad in effort to get her to convert brought up english version of the koran. I looked at it and in particular about females and this confirmed the above.

My daughters as most folk are brought up everyone is equal unfortunately not all are.

As said my issue is not racial its a religious thing that puts me off.

May not be popular but I still believe in free speech.

No doubt folk will agree and disagree but thats not my concern.

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By *unseeker34Couple
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Its not a race issue for me more a religious thing in that I will not meet not meet muslims.

Fact is females are deemed and portayed as second class and treated different to men ie not meant to be in mosque same time as men or same room without permission.

Bit of background to this is my daughter and her partner he is muslim and a great lad and father to my grankids.

My daughters as most folk are brought up everyone is equal unfortunately not all are.

As said my issue is not racial its a religious thing that puts me off.

May not be popular but I still believe in free speech.

No doubt folk will agree and disagree but thats not my concern."

I'm not clued up on religion but is this not like saying I won't meet Christians cos they think gay people are going to hell or I won't meet Catholics cos they don't believe in birth control?

Your son in law is Muslim but a great lad, presumably he treats your daughter well and many other Muslims treat women well too.

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By *gNeMan
over a year ago

Harrogate

I'm not clued up on religion but is this not like saying I won't meet Christians cos they think gay people are going to hell or I won't meet Catholics cos they don't believe in birth control?

Your son in law is Muslim but a great lad, presumably he treats your daughter well and many other Muslims treat women well too. "

exactly, sounds like a warped justification for religious bigotry to me.

Presuming the poster is straight, surely it's the oppressed he would be meeting, and not the oppressors. In which case if his stereotypical _iew were in fact correct, then he could just treat the muslim women he meets as equals himself!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?

What twaddle folk can and should be able to put on profile what they wish and if they say no asian blacks or whites thats their choice.

The folk in wrong are those messaging those involved they have the problems and should not use the race card nor should the pc brigade criticise personal choice.

If I come across a profile that says no white men I respect their choice its not rocket science."

Its not twaddle at all! If you don't put it on then you won't get people asking why!? Not all are perfect like you and respect their choice! We turn down loads of people who still then ask why! Do you think they get a reply!?

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By *r Man.Man
over a year ago

London

I would never have sex with men of any colour.

So does this make me a racist or homophobic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would never have sex with men of any colour.

So does this make me a racist or homophobic

Why?

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By *r Man.Man
over a year ago

London

That's correct,

Why should it make a difference what I like or dislike in my fun time.

So someone who's got issue of what people prefer, cant function in real life so they try cyber life and disrespect people on line for there preferences, but one to one they wouldn't have the balls to approach 90% of the women in real life.

Mr Man.

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By *ieutenantMan
over a year ago

london

I am a strong advocate for choice and preference. If you find some ethnic groups not attractive to you sexually. This is a free world.

you have the right to choose what attract you without fear of being label as racist. All this political correctness gone mad is driving me insane. I am a black guy. Me and my white females colleague drink and have a laugh together at weekend in my place. Some of them don't find black guys sexually attractive. You expect me to call them racist?. You need to get real and respect people's choice and preference.

Yes.some racist element do hide under the banner of preference and choice. Don't tarred everyone with the same brush

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By *L RogueMan
over a year ago

London

"I am a strong advocate for choice and preference. If you find some ethnic groups not attractive to you sexually. This is a free world.

Yes.some racist element do hide under the banner of preference and choice. Don't tarred everyone with the same brush"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But here's a thought, why even put on your profile that you won't meet black or asian men? If they msg delete and block, simple. Or do you enjoy the attention?"

Very much this, and fantastically put too,

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By *annyblackMan
over a year ago

Manchester

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By *epper123Woman
over a year ago

London

Pmsl, how dare you objectify black men (it's a joke, I know mine will be first in the queue)

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I justify fuck all on here.... people don't have to, they choose to

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By *gNeMan
over a year ago

Harrogate

"I am a strong advocate for choice and preference. If you find some ethnic groups not attractive to you sexually. This is a free world.

Yes.some racist element do hide under the banner of preference and choice. Don't tarred everyone with the same brush"

I think it's the way some have it written on their profile that some others have a problem with. No one has a problem with saying 'my preference is white men with beards' for example, but a a profile stating 'no black, no asians' as many do, has a very racist undertone.

I personally think it is ludicrous to say you are categorically not attracted to anyone from a specific ethnic group. I generally don't find the majority of afro-caribean women attractive, but if Rhianna came a knocking...

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By *epper123Woman
over a year ago

London

Exactly my point in terms of the language and use of it - the style mimics that of segregation and apartheid - quite willing to be called politically correct here. White woman, mixed race kids, maybe not the black British experience of racism but to those of us who have lived with it on another level, it's inflammatory - can't you think of saying it in a different way?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

shouldnt have to,its not racist to have preferences but seem to think they can call it people

rude really lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am a strong advocate for choice and preference. If you find some ethnic groups not attractive to you sexually. This is a free world.

Yes.some racist element do hide under the banner of preference and choice. Don't tarred everyone with the same brush

vin deisel..most likely mixed race(a person of colour was the saying is his father he said)

I've seen asian women of east and middle east...being utterly stunning..

to be honest there are asian men..who would pass for handsome italian too(not that they are on my radar)

check out some of the bollywood actresses too!(the films are always pish mine lol)

and it isnt about people having to fake a 'westernized' look either

there are generic stereotypes about what features any race has..while it may appear true..it is statistically just isn't true.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow all this racial stuff today on the forums. You guys starting to sound like Americans.

But seriously who cares what someone put in their profile. It's THEIR PROFILE , just pass it by.

I made a mistake once and emailed someone to ask their race. I was just curious if she was Asian or black. I was told I had a ax to grind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Black is a colour not a race. I know what you mean though. Just my preference is what they usually say to justify it

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"Wow all this racial stuff today on the forums. You guys starting to sound like Americans.

But seriously who cares what someone put in their profile. It's THEIR PROFILE , just pass it by.

I made a mistake once and emailed someone to ask their race. I was just curious if she was Asian or black. I was told I had a ax to grind

Lived in the states for ten years, maybe that is why I sound like one of you guys .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yorkshire man living and Lancashire called a Yorkshire bastard every day is that not racist getting told to fuck off back over the hill

No, it's not racist.

Yorkshire isn't a race."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So I am white as is Mrs. She is size 18 and with one leg. Perhaps some guys out there should start putting NO ONE LEGGED BBW's lol.

Our preference is for Black guys. We have tried to make it clear not under any race banner but so white guys dont waste theirs and our time.

Our preference has nothing at all to do with colour, it is to do with FANTASY!! We live a cuckold lifestyle and black guys fit into our fantasy world.

Nothing more nothing less.

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff

"Women can say no blackmen, no whitemen, no Asians

just like people say no bi men, no large people, no ts or tv, no men, no woman etc etc

people shouldn't get offended and use the race card when there not within the persons preference.move on to another profile it's not racism its a filter in most cases

I don't think there is a 'nice' way to say "I don't fancy you because you're the wrong colour", Is there?"

there certainly isn't a 'not racist' way of saying it either, is there? You can argue it's a sexual preference, and we'll argue that preference is 'racist'.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Women can say no blackmen, no whitemen, no Asians

just like people say no bi men, no large people, no ts or tv, no men, no woman etc etc

people shouldn't get offended and use the race card when there not within the persons preference.move on to another profile it's not racism its a filter in most cases

I don't think there is a 'nice' way to say "I don't fancy you because you're the wrong colour", Is there?

there certainly isn't a 'not racist' way of saying it either, is there? You can argue it's a sexual preference, and we'll argue that preference is 'racist'."

I agree the preference is racist but I do not believe that that by itself makes the person a racist. It could quite simply that they find darker or lighter skin more sexually attractive in the same way as some people find blonds or brunettes more or less attractive. Either way, whether racist or not, in this area it has to be up to the individual to decide for themselves, after all the alternative would be to force people to have sex with others against their will and that would be far worse in my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't see any racism in people merely stating their preferences. Please let's rememmber this website is for people to have fun, to embrace their fantasies, and no-one seems to have any issues with women who say "black only", "bbc" or whatever else; and I've seen quite a few! I think we'll all agree this is a logistical "taste" thing, and nothing more, so why should it be that the same woman should become racist if she was to decide to explore the exact opposite of what she previously wanted, a month down the line? I am black and I state on my profile that I will not meet any black girl! And please believe me, I'm nowhere near racist; can't even be

It's just that that's not what I am looking for...

That was my modest contribution.

Enjoy Fab!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At the end of the day people have the right to decide who they will sleep with and nothing should change that.

However if you put restrictions under the name of preference then assumptions rightly or wrongly will be made about you.

The reason why 'no blacks or asians' is problematic is apart from the fact it does not have an exception for character it is remniscent of the signs that were prevalent up to the 80s in regard to housing and social clubs that said 'no blacks, irish or dogs'. The argument used was personal preference or people could decide who lived in their houses or with whom they associated. The cumulative effect being discriminatory as the white population was and is the majority. As most of the women on this site are white there is cumulative appearance of discrimination on the basis of race by the number of whites only profiles. Some argue that black is not a race, but the issue is still the appearance of discrimination by a majority on a minority. Remembering that within our parents memory discrimination by colour was acceptable in the UK, America and South Africa.

It is likely that the women who say 'no blacks or asians' are not married to white men or have white children. I say that because a false comparison is made with women who ask for 'black men only' and it is said they are racist. This is wrong firstly as the women are part of the same majority (white men) and a majority can't be racist against itself. Secondly the white men still have a larger pool to choose from no matter how it may feel to those who complain. Thirdly these women's discrimination is not anti white as they generally have a white husband and have white children or have been married to a white man or gone out with white men. The same cant be said about most of the women who say 'no blacks'.

However at the end of the day whoever a person sleeps with is their own personal preference and as fab is a reflection of society one can hope for the removal of irrational preferences, but one person's irrationality is another's sane proposal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do not and will not justify my preferences, if you don't like then move on!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is likely that the women who say 'no blacks or asians' are not married to white men or have white children."

Based on?????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is likely that the women who say 'no blacks or asians' are not married to white men or have white children.

Based on?????"

The ones I have met

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is likely that the women who say 'no blacks or asians' are not married to white men or have white children.

Based on?????

The ones I have met"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is likely that the women who say 'no blacks or asians' are not married to white men or have white children.

Based on?????"

Firstly I never said that anyone needed to justify their preferences. I said that if you state preferences assumptions may be made

In regard to the quote Thanks for pointing out my typing error, the word white should be replaced by black.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If i dont reply to certain men on here ,then i get called all sorts of names reguarding my size , and sometimes get random messages with name calling because i am a bbw.Its ignorant and down right rude,thank god for the block button.

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