FabSwingers.com forum: Bisexuality; is it all or none?

By *xoticlover OP Man
over a year ago

newcastle

How would you define bisexuality? Are there different grades to it or is it all or none? Orally bi, is he/she considered as bisexual? I know there have been plenty of such threads but i never got my answer...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting post. I've not had a lot of experience with women but got turned on by the kissing and love boobs. Freak out when it cones to going further though so I'm not bisexual but I'm not straight?!

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing"

Would you do anal with a woman ?

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

Would you do anal with a woman ? "

No, I prefer DVP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like men and women equally - depending on my mood

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How would you define bisexuality? Are there different grades to it or is it all or none? Orally bi, is he/she considered as bisexual? I know there have been plenty of such threads but i never got my answer..."

There are different degrees of everything. Very little in life is black or white.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Interesting post. I've not had a lot of experience with women but got turned on by the kissing and love boobs. Freak out when it cones to going further though so I'm not bisexual but I'm not straight?!"

Bicurious? It's kind of similar, my male friend's happy to suck cock and such but kissing, not so much. It's like the reverse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing"

Not my ring, either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interested sexually in men and women - bisexual.

Interested sexually in men, women and other genders - pansexual.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interested sexually in men and women - bisexual.

Interested sexually in men, women and other genders - pansexual."

Bicurious - likes stupid words.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are different degrees of everything. Very little in life is black or white."

.........and how fantastic is that ?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

Would you do anal with a woman ?

No, I prefer DVP"

Done this just the once , and did wonder if I may be bi as I enjoyed it very much , as did Sabrina

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I described myself as bisexual. I don't think it's very accurate but it's better than straight.

I think bisexuality is a spectrum from fully straight to fully homosexual. I think people can move up and down within those parameters at different times of their life or with different people.

I'm just me. I don't like things up my arse either.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

It is one of those areas where it technically should be easy: someone who has sex with people of both sexes.

Now all we need to do is define 'sex' and 'sexes'.

Mr ddc

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

I find myself attracted to a personality rather than a gender

I can't say I'm straight nor bi really

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing"

There are many women who don't do anal either, doesn't affect their sexuality, it's just an option they don't choose.

(If that makes sense)

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

There are many women who don't do anal either, doesn't affect their sexuality, it's just an option they don't choose.

(If that makes sense)"

yeah I was just answering the OP as I class myself fully bisexual, not orally bi.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dunno I'm bi but I haven't found a guy attractive in near enough a year.

Not had any desire to be with a dude in a long time.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"I dunno I'm bi but I haven't found a guy attractive in near enough a year.

Not had any desire to be with a dude in a long time."

Am I attractive?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dunno I'm bi but I haven't found a guy attractive in near enough a year.

Not had any desire to be with a dude in a long time.

Am I attractive? "

That would be subjective lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we are both fully bi in a swinging bi situation it is far better when all can do all, threesomes are the best, the dynamic changes with mmff bi fun, its very difficult to find a guy that is more bi than curious if that makes sense. The fem half of us isn't bothered about full swap with a guy in either a 3 or 4 many men don't get this. spose its all about preference, but if all qre open to all, surely that is better xx

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By *xoticlover OP Man
over a year ago

newcastle

Terms liks fully bi, orally bi.. Are they all grades of bisexuality? I mean orally bi, are they bisexuals?

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By *xoticlover OP Man
over a year ago

newcastle

Interested sexually in men and women - bisexual.

Orally bi, is that bisexual?

Interested sexually in men, women and other genders - pansexual."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Terms liks fully bi, orally bi.. Are they all grades of bisexuality? I mean orally bi, are they bisexuals?"

Yes because a fully straight man wouldn't suck cock.

Only the ones in denial of course.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes there's different grades of bisexuality. From 100% straight through to 100% gay. Many different shades of the rainbow.

Labels don't bother me. If a straight guy loves fucking men, that's cool with me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Going on the basis of a great many previous posts there is no such thing as bisexual.

It is just a label apparently!!

If I can get my head around this issue it appears that:-

A straight bloke can have sex with another guy because " a hole is just a hole"

A straight guy can suck another guy but if he doesn't actually fancy men he is still regarded as straight.

If a straight guy is not interested in sexually exploring with another guy he is either too repressed or homophobic.

There we go I hope everything is now clear for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this describes me pretty well too!! Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You have a fair point there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fully means that the person is totally into the same sex in more ways than pure acts but switch with the opposite sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

agree with a hole is a whole, being bi means more than that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

also agree with too repressed or homophobic totally agree with you xx

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"Terms liks fully bi, orally bi.. Are they all grades of bisexuality? I mean orally bi, are they bisexuals?"

Yes. How is Oral sex not sex?

(Unless your the President of the USA)

(OMG, you're not Bill Clinton are you? For God's sake, Bill, what have you done now?!!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm down as bi curious only because there isn't a tab to fit me. I'm happy to get 'involved' through the general fun of play but wouldn't actively go out my way to pursue a bi or gay bloke and I don't find guys remotely attractive - apart from Lenny Kravitz who certainly wouldn't get kicked off my shotgun seat!

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By *o new WinksMan
over a year ago

BSE

" I mean orally bi, are they bisexuals?"

Yes. If you want any kind of sex with someone of the same sex, you are bi.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" I mean orally bi, are they bisexuals?

Yes. If you want any kind of sex with someone of the same sex, you are bi. "

lol. Not according to all the "straight" guys who accuse me of being too repressed or homophobic.

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By *eithoWoman
over a year ago

Chatham

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By *igertigerCouple (MM)
over a year ago

cc hotel

" I mean orally bi, are they bisexuals?

Yes. If you want any kind of sex with someone of the same sex, you are bi. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For us if you when young think you are gay but like the opposite sex then you are bi its who you are not just someone who fantasises but someone who feels gay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Although your still straight if your wanking to transsexual porn as technically they were born women.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

" I mean orally bi, are they bisexuals?

Yes. If you want any kind of sex with someone of the same sex, you are bi. "

But that's incredibly reductive. You're using the same label to apply to someone who is 50:50 equally interested in men and women, and someone who is 95:5 interested in men:women (or vice versa).

I know people prefer simple answers, but sexuality is more complex than straight/bi/gay. It's a spectrum, not 3 options.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

" I mean orally bi, are they bisexuals?

Yes. If you want any kind of sex with someone of the same sex, you are bi.

But that's incredibly reductive. You're using the same label to apply to someone who is 50:50 equally interested in men and women, and someone who is 95:5 interested in men:women (or vice versa).

I know people prefer simple answers, but sexuality is more complex than straight/bi/gay. It's a spectrum, not 3 options."

It may sound reductive to you, but to me "Are you Bisexual?" is a 'yes' or 'no' question.

You may prefer one more than the other, that is simply preference.

I prefer rum and raisin, but if asked if I like ice-cream I still say 'yes'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Terms liks fully bi, orally bi.. Are they all grades of bisexuality? I mean orally bi, are they bisexuals?"

Yes. Because they find men sexually attractive.

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By *xoticlover OP Man
over a year ago

newcastle

"Terms liks fully bi, orally bi.. Are they all grades of bisexuality? I mean orally bi, are they bisexuals?

Yes. Because they find men sexually attractive."

Got it...!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Terms liks fully bi, orally bi.. Are they all grades of bisexuality? I mean orally bi, are they bisexuals?

Yes. Because they find men sexually attractive.

Got it...!"

I don't enjoy giving men blow jobs or having anal sex.

Does that mean I'm only partially straight - for example?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We think that following the thread has shown ignorance and sense, ultimately the question has been answered, now to continue to seek like minded souls xx

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing"

One of my best friends is gay and doesn't give or recieve anal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

One of my best friends is gay and doesn't give or recieve anal "

There are enough straight women who don't have sex either. Sex acts aren't a definer of sexuality.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

One of my best friends is gay and doesn't give or recieve anal

There are enough straight women who don't have sex either. Sex acts aren't a definer of sexuality."

No I know but he's told me people are shocked that he's gay and doesn't do those acts. I don't understand why they would be. Being gay doesn't automatically mean you like things up your bum. And liking things up your bum if you are a guy doesn't mean you are bi/gay (it's been asked on here before)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I also subscribe to the spectrum _iew of bisexuality. However I only decided in the last year that I could no longer consider myself straight, so see myself as bi- curious rather than bisexual because I haven't taken any action sincr the decision to explore it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

One of my best friends is gay and doesn't give or recieve anal

There are enough straight women who don't have sex either. Sex acts aren't a definer of sexuality."

are you saying that you think sexuality is a frame of mind rather than being defined by the sexual acts that you engage in?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

One of my best friends is gay and doesn't give or recieve anal

There are enough straight women who don't have sex either. Sex acts aren't a definer of sexuality.

are you saying that you think sexuality is a frame of mind rather than being defined by the sexual acts that you engage in?"

Sexuality is who you are sexually attracted to. How hard is that to understand?

Straight - attracted to 'opposite' gender.

Gay - attracted to 'same' gender.

Bisexual - attracted to 'both' genders in a bigender paradigm.

Pansexual - attracted to all genders / gender doesn't matter.

Asexual - not attracted to any gender.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

One of my best friends is gay and doesn't give or recieve anal

There are enough straight women who don't have sex either. Sex acts aren't a definer of sexuality.

are you saying that you think sexuality is a frame of mind rather than being defined by the sexual acts that you engage in?

Sexuality is who you are sexually attracted to. How hard is that to understand?

Straight - attracted to 'opposite' gender.

Gay - attracted to 'same' gender.

Bisexual - attracted to 'both' genders in a bigender paradigm.

Pansexual - attracted to all genders / gender doesn't matter.

Asexual - not attracted to any gender."

Plus ultimately - who the fuck even cares? Label yourself whatever you want, explain to people the nuances.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we agree with all you have said very well explained xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

One of my best friends is gay and doesn't give or recieve anal

There are enough straight women who don't have sex either. Sex acts aren't a definer of sexuality.

are you saying that you think sexuality is a frame of mind rather than being defined by the sexual acts that you engage in?

Sexuality is who you are sexually attracted to. How hard is that to understand?

Straight - attracted to 'opposite' gender.

Gay - attracted to 'same' gender.

Bisexual - attracted to 'both' genders in a bigender paradigm.

Pansexual - attracted to all genders / gender doesn't matter.

Asexual - not attracted to any gender."

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"I also subscribe to the spectrum _iew of bisexuality. However I only decided in the last year that I could no longer consider myself straight, so see myself as bi- curious rather than bisexual because I haven't taken any action sincr the decision to explore it."

Your ass is mine Doc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

One of my best friends is gay and doesn't give or recieve anal

There are enough straight women who don't have sex either. Sex acts aren't a definer of sexuality.

are you saying that you think sexuality is a frame of mind rather than being defined by the sexual acts that you engage in?

Sexuality is who you are sexually attracted to. How hard is that to understand?

Straight - attracted to 'opposite' gender.

Gay - attracted to 'same' gender.

Bisexual - attracted to 'both' genders in a bigender paradigm.

Pansexual - attracted to all genders / gender doesn't matter.

Asexual - not attracted to any gender.

Plus ultimately - who the fuck even cares? Label yourself whatever you want, explain to people the nuances."

I'm more in the who the fuck even cares category really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

One of my best friends is gay and doesn't give or recieve anal

There are enough straight women who don't have sex either. Sex acts aren't a definer of sexuality.

are you saying that you think sexuality is a frame of mind rather than being defined by the sexual acts that you engage in?

Sexuality is who you are sexually attracted to. How hard is that to understand?

Straight - attracted to 'opposite' gender.

Gay - attracted to 'same' gender.

Bisexual - attracted to 'both' genders in a bigender paradigm.

Pansexual - attracted to all genders / gender doesn't matter.

Asexual - not attracted to any gender."

What about men that like sucking cock but aren't ever sexually attracted to the man it's attached to?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Super and Witch

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

One of my best friends is gay and doesn't give or recieve anal

There are enough straight women who don't have sex either. Sex acts aren't a definer of sexuality.

are you saying that you think sexuality is a frame of mind rather than being defined by the sexual acts that you engage in?

Sexuality is who you are sexually attracted to. How hard is that to understand?

Straight - attracted to 'opposite' gender.

Gay - attracted to 'same' gender.

Bisexual - attracted to 'both' genders in a bigender paradigm.

Pansexual - attracted to all genders / gender doesn't matter.

Asexual - not attracted to any gender.

What about men that like sucking cock but aren't ever sexually attracted to the man it's attached to?"

But the cock belongs to a man. A male sexual organ.

Straight men don't want to engage sexually with other men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Super and Witch

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your ass is mine Doc

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You think

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

I think Kinsey had it fairly well. There are degrees of sexuality. Very few people are 100% heterosexual or 100% homosexual. Most people have some sort of attraction, in certain circumstances, to all genders.

As for me, I have been told I am a 2 on the Kinsey scale. I find women attractive, but not men. I don't even know what people who like men find attractive in us (which makes grooming and dressing myself somewhat difficult).

However in a MMF situation I will happily play with the other guy's cock, including oral and swallowing. And I am happy for him to play with mine. I'd probably go all the way if it felt right. But I wouldn't do the same guy on his own, without being turned on by the lady first.

As one of my friends (who happens to be trans and bi) says....."girls are too pretty and cocks are too much fun"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

One of my best friends is gay and doesn't give or recieve anal

There are enough straight women who don't have sex either. Sex acts aren't a definer of sexuality.

are you saying that you think sexuality is a frame of mind rather than being defined by the sexual acts that you engage in?

Sexuality is who you are sexually attracted to. How hard is that to understand?

Straight - attracted to 'opposite' gender.

Gay - attracted to 'same' gender.

Bisexual - attracted to 'both' genders in a bigender paradigm.

Pansexual - attracted to all genders / gender doesn't matter.

Asexual - not attracted to any gender.

What about men that like sucking cock but aren't ever sexually attracted to the man it's attached to?

But the cock belongs to a man. A male sexual organ.

Straight men don't want to engage sexually with other men

Agree. But I don't agree that sexuality is necessarily tied in with attraction to a gender.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

Would you do anal with a woman ? "

Yes...and I have....but never with a guy in either direction. Instant turn off and willy flop even thinking about It!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

One of my best friends is gay and doesn't give or recieve anal

There are enough straight women who don't have sex either. Sex acts aren't a definer of sexuality.

are you saying that you think sexuality is a frame of mind rather than being defined by the sexual acts that you engage in?

Sexuality is who you are sexually attracted to. How hard is that to understand?

Straight - attracted to 'opposite' gender.

Gay - attracted to 'same' gender.

Bisexual - attracted to 'both' genders in a bigender paradigm.

Pansexual - attracted to all genders / gender doesn't matter.

Asexual - not attracted to any gender.

What about men that like sucking cock but aren't ever sexually attracted to the man it's attached to?

But the cock belongs to a man. A male sexual organ.

Straight men don't want to engage sexually with other men

Agree. But I don't agree that sexuality is necessarily tied in with attraction to a gender. "
What else then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

One of my best friends is gay and doesn't give or recieve anal

There are enough straight women who don't have sex either. Sex acts aren't a definer of sexuality.

are you saying that you think sexuality is a frame of mind rather than being defined by the sexual acts that you engage in?

Sexuality is who you are sexually attracted to. How hard is that to understand?

Straight - attracted to 'opposite' gender.

Gay - attracted to 'same' gender.

Bisexual - attracted to 'both' genders in a bigender paradigm.

Pansexual - attracted to all genders / gender doesn't matter.

Asexual - not attracted to any gender.

What about men that like sucking cock but aren't ever sexually attracted to the man it's attached to?"

I no a guy like this, will play in group situation, but not with a guy alone. He prefers bi-playful.

I love women and men sexually but only have relationships with men,x

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Where's my friend when I need him?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Where's my friend when I need him?!

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He's still trying to get his cock ring off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

One of my best friends is gay and doesn't give or recieve anal

There are enough straight women who don't have sex either. Sex acts aren't a definer of sexuality.

are you saying that you think sexuality is a frame of mind rather than being defined by the sexual acts that you engage in?

Sexuality is who you are sexually attracted to. How hard is that to understand?

Straight - attracted to 'opposite' gender.

Gay - attracted to 'same' gender.

Bisexual - attracted to 'both' genders in a bigender paradigm.

Pansexual - attracted to all genders / gender doesn't matter.

Asexual - not attracted to any gender.

What about men that like sucking cock but aren't ever sexually attracted to the man it's attached to?"

They're sexually attracted to part of the man's body, otherwise they wouldn't suck it for sexual excitement. Just because you're not attracted to someones face doesn't mean other parts of them aren't attractive.

(Otherwise I apparently have no sexuality - because I don't find many peoples faces sexually attractive.)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But the cock belongs to a man. A male sexual organ.

That's not really true. There are a fair amount of men that do not have penises.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"Where's my friend when I need him?!

You threatened to reject me If I sent you a fancy a fuck message on another thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But the cock belongs to a man. A male sexual organ.

That's not really true. There are a fair amount of men that do not have penises."

And those who identify as women and do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

One of my best friends is gay and doesn't give or recieve anal

There are enough straight women who don't have sex either. Sex acts aren't a definer of sexuality.

are you saying that you think sexuality is a frame of mind rather than being defined by the sexual acts that you engage in?

Sexuality is who you are sexually attracted to. How hard is that to understand?

Straight - attracted to 'opposite' gender.

Gay - attracted to 'same' gender.

Bisexual - attracted to 'both' genders in a bigender paradigm.

Pansexual - attracted to all genders / gender doesn't matter.

Asexual - not attracted to any gender.

What about men that like sucking cock but aren't ever sexually attracted to the man it's attached to?

(Otherwise I apparently have no sexuality - because I don't find many peoples faces sexually attractive.)"

Thank you that makes sense. I'll think about that.

I wasn't trying to argue, just asking.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"Where's my friend when I need him?!

You threatened to reject me If I sent you a fancy a fuck message on another thread

Oh yeah.....

But if I go to The Attic, I'm staying at yours!

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"Where's my friend when I need him?!

You threatened to reject me If I sent you a fancy a fuck message on another thread

Oh yeah.....

But if I go to The Attic, I'm staying at yours!

Deal

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"Where's my friend when I need him?!

He's still trying to get his cock ring off

Lol

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

One of my best friends is gay and doesn't give or recieve anal

There are enough straight women who don't have sex either. Sex acts aren't a definer of sexuality.

are you saying that you think sexuality is a frame of mind rather than being defined by the sexual acts that you engage in?

Sexuality is who you are sexually attracted to. How hard is that to understand?

Straight - attracted to 'opposite' gender.

Gay - attracted to 'same' gender.

Bisexual - attracted to 'both' genders in a bigender paradigm.

Pansexual - attracted to all genders / gender doesn't matter.

Asexual - not attracted to any gender."
Where does transsexuals come in that list that's born a woman?. Still straight in my eyes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But the cock belongs to a man. A male sexual organ.

That's not really true. There are a fair amount of men that do not have penises."

Hmmm...

For simplicities (fabs') sake - I'm Going with the mostly widely understood meaning of 'male'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

One of my best friends is gay and doesn't give or recieve anal

There are enough straight women who don't have sex either. Sex acts aren't a definer of sexuality.

are you saying that you think sexuality is a frame of mind rather than being defined by the sexual acts that you engage in?

Sexuality is who you are sexually attracted to. How hard is that to understand?

Straight - attracted to 'opposite' gender.

Gay - attracted to 'same' gender.

Bisexual - attracted to 'both' genders in a bigender paradigm.

Pansexual - attracted to all genders / gender doesn't matter.

Asexual - not attracted to any gender.Where does transsexuals come in that list that's born a woman?. Still straight in my eyes."

What's not clear about gender? If they are living as a woman, then they are women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But the cock belongs to a man. A male sexual organ.

That's not really true. There are a fair amount of men that do not have penises.

Hmmm...

For simplicities (fabs') sake - I'm Going with the mostly widely understood meaning of 'male'"

That's nice, but lots of us don't fall into that definition. And it allows silly forum threads like 'if I have sex with a man with a vagina, does it make me a lesbian?'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

bi-sexuality

for me as a bi guy I love being a bottom but couldn't imagine kissing a guy - with a lady everything goes

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"bi-sexuality

for me as a bi guy I love being a bottom but couldn't imagine kissing a guy - with a lady everything goes

I kissed a guy once. His stubble wrecked my skin.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why are we so obsessed with labelling and categorising ourselves .

Im here for fun and if i dont like something i wont do it again .

I thought swingers would be more open minded people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...

I thought swingers would be more open minded people"

No. Usually the total opposite.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...

I thought swingers would be more open minded people

No. Usually the total opposite. "

Im starting to think that too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...

I thought swingers would be more open minded people

No. Usually the total opposite.

Im starting to think that too"

Swingers are still human.

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By *embudWoman
over a year ago

LONDON

...this describes me also, but you never know how far I may go with the right woman.

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

While it is sometimes useful to remember that most people do fall into the category of feeling that they are either male or female, it's certainly true that gender is a spectrum too.

I am attracted to some women, including sometimes women born with male genitalia (regardless of whether they retain those parts). I have never been attracted to a man, including men with female genitalia. I also don't often form close friendships with men, and have never been emotionally close enough with a man to consider it a "relationship".

But sometimes I play physically with men, in a MMF or group situation where a woman has previously turned me on. Cocks are fun to play with but I need to be in the mood first, and only women can do that. However I certainly have played with woman who had a penis, and enjoyed the experience thoroughly.

I tend to describe myself as hete

exible, as it best covers how I feel. I want to convey that I am not ever likely to play with a man or group of men, nor am I likely to have a relationship with a man.

On Fab I am "bi-curious" with a brief explanation in my profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Scarlet absolutely get that

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale

Maybe this will help?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am bisexual but I don't do anal. Not my thing

One of my best friends is gay and doesn't give or recieve anal

There are enough straight women who don't have sex either. Sex acts aren't a definer of sexuality.

are you saying that you think sexuality is a frame of mind rather than being defined by the sexual acts that you engage in?

Sexuality is who you are sexually attracted to. How hard is that to understand?

Straight - attracted to 'opposite' gender.

Gay - attracted to 'same' gender.

Bisexual - attracted to 'both' genders in a bigender paradigm.

Pansexual - attracted to all genders / gender doesn't matter.

Asexual - not attracted to any gender.Where does transsexuals come in that list that's born a woman?. Still straight in my eyes.

What's not clear about gender? If they are living as a woman, then they are women."
Yes that right as they are still a woman but just with a cock.

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By *andy6677Man
over a year ago

crewe

To me being bisexual is treating all sexes and orientations the same xxx And make love to them all the same too xxx

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By *hepisstakersCouple (FF)
over a year ago

London

Interested sexually in men and women - bisexual.

Interested sexually in men, women and other genders - pansexual.

Bicurious - likes stupid words."

lmao agree

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Interested sexually in men and women - bisexual.

Interested sexually in men, women and other genders - pansexual.

Bicurious - likes stupid words.

lmao agree"

Well there is:

Bisexual

Bi curious

Bi playful

Bi comfortable

Bi friendly

Bi situational

Bi sensual

Bi lingual

Bi lateral

Bi cycle

Bi monthly

Bi ologist

Bi nocular

By email

Bi partisan

Bi annual

Bi accident

Bi carbonate of soda

Bi polar

Bi plane

Bi ceps

Bi pedal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Enjoying the best of both and all the way

Her

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pinched from the post i put in the Scottish forum about same subject . (

The dictionary definition of bisexuality is a romantic or sexual attraction to both men and women. It doesn't say anything about having to fancy both equally. Neither does it say you have to have actually tried it, or want a relationship. In terms of the sexual act, if you are attracted to the idea of sex with both sexes (fantasies etc), whether of not you are only attracted to bits of that sex (cock, boobs, or whatever) you are bi. Bi-curious isn't a scientific term. It has only been invented by people who, for one reason or another, don't want to classify themselves as bi despite being attracted to the idea of sex with both sexes.)

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By *SweetVioletxWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

I see myself as incredibly sexual. If I'm sexually attracted to someone that's it. In my head it's supposed to keep things simple. In real life, well I try

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should be Hetro-emotional, Bi & Homo-emotional + your sexual preference. I'm a hetro-emotional bisexual and Ginger's hetro-emotional bicurious but thats a whole new headfuck. However instead of adding labels just be honest with what you like with yourself and others and have fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should be Hetro-emotional, Bi & Homo-emotional + your sexual preference. I'm a hetro-emotional bisexual and Ginger's hetro-emotional bicurious but thats a whole new headfuck. However instead of adding labels just be honest with what you like with yourself and others and have fun"

Christ that's nearly as bad as genderqueer or whatever the latest silly word is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To me being bisexual is treating all sexes and orientations the same xxx And make love to them all the same too xxx"

That's pansexual.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Christ that's nearly as bad as genderqueer or whatever the latest silly word is."

Genderqueer is nothing to do with who you find attractive. It's a word that means 'I don't fit into a bigender definition'. It's not silly, it's just a word to describe who you are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm straight, with an element of being curious.

I find myself wanting to kiss a women and caress they're breasts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pinched from the post i put in the Scottish forum about same subject . (

The dictionary definition of bisexuality is a romantic or sexual attraction to both men and women. It doesn't say anything about having to fancy both equally. Neither does it say you have to have actually tried it, or want a relationship. In terms of the sexual act, if you atre attracted to the idea of sex with both sexes (fantasies etc), whether of not you are only attracted to bits of that sex (cock, boobs, or whatever) you are bi. Bi-curious isn't a scientific term. It has only been invented by people who, for one reason or another, don't want to classify themselves as bi despite being attracted to the idea of sex with both sexes.)"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This has been a really good thread thanks all who contributed, especially to Wasp Hunter for the clarity of thought that you broughtbto the thread

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

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By *andy6677Man
over a year ago

crewe

"To me being bisexual is treating all sexes and orientations the same xxx And make love to them all the same too xxx

That's pansexual."

Thanks for the clarification xx Will put that on my profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I liken bisexuality to liking chocolate in my head. Some people don't like chocolate, they prefer normal foods. Some people like chocolate cake but not chocolate bars, that would be too much chocolate. Some people are curious about chocolate - which is crazy because chocolate is yummy and everywhere, and they should try some.

I'm not high or anything, I just want some chocolate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I liken bisexuality to liking chocolate in my head. Some people don't like chocolate, they prefer normal foods. Some people like chocolate cake but not chocolate bars, that would be too much chocolate. Some people are curious about chocolate - which is crazy because chocolate is yummy and everywhere, and they should try some.

I'm not high or anything, I just want some chocolate. "

Love it!

I love chocolate... and your fantastic analogy...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are both bi to some degree. We have both dated the same sex. The only thing that bugs me is you don't have to have anal sex to be bi. (For the guys) . I have gay friends who don't do it does itake them any less gay ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not high or anything, I just want some chocolate.

Love it!

I love chocolate... and your fantastic analogy... "

Aw thankyou!You can have white chocolate, dark chocolate (nomnomnom), supermarket own brand or lindor... It's a hard working analogy

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By *andy6677Man
over a year ago

crewe

I'm not high or anything, I just want some chocolate.

Love it!

I love chocolate... and your fantastic analogy...

Aw thankyou!You can have white chocolate, dark chocolate (nomnomnom), supermarket own brand or lindor... It's a hard working analogy

Still great analogy im going to get some myself mmmm xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Christ that's nearly as bad as genderqueer or whatever the latest silly word is.

Genderqueer is nothing to do with who you find attractive. It's a word that means 'I don't fit into a bigender definition'. It's not silly, it's just a word to describe who you are."

It's silly. frankly whoever sat down and came up with that with a straight face and got idiots to call themselves it is either a genius or a mad man.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Christ that's nearly as bad as genderqueer or whatever the latest silly word is.

Genderqueer is nothing to do with who you find attractive. It's a word that means 'I don't fit into a bigender definition'. It's not silly, it's just a word to describe who you are.

It's silly. frankly whoever sat down and came up with that with a straight face and got idiots to call themselves it is either a genius or a mad man."

It's a shame you feel that way. I personally don't think genderqueer sounds all that, but many people simply don't identify with either the male or female gender and for better or worse that's the label that stuck. In my opinion people should try to respect that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Christ that's nearly as bad as genderqueer or whatever the latest silly word is.

Genderqueer is nothing to do with who you find attractive. It's a word that means 'I don't fit into a bigender definition'. It's not silly, it's just a word to describe who you are.

It's silly. frankly whoever sat down and came up with that with a straight face and got idiots to call themselves it is either a genius or a mad man."

The English language has a long history of butting two words together to make new words. There's nothing odd about it.

Gender - In dictionary English means to subscribe to one option of the bigender paradigm (the idea that there are male and female and nothing else).

Queer - To spoil or to not fit in to the expected.

Therefore GenderQueer means to spoil the idea of the bigender paradigm because you do not fit into the 'male' or 'female' box.

What is silly about that?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I'm bi-playful then, if that label helps any. To a certain degree anyway. Sometimes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I don't think bi sexuality exists,you're either Gay or Straight

It's like saying bi racial exists...you're

either white or non white ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dear lord.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't know if it helps the OP. I'm bi, but go through waves, of attraction to either male, or females. I have kissed men and women,gave oral to, and indulged in masturbation with both, but never received anal from a man. My partner, she is also along the same lines. We both just go with it, we both like either sex, in different degrees, at different times, and both identify as bi.

Thanks for this thread though, it's been interesting reading

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"Personally I don't think bi sexuality exists,you're either Gay or Straight

It's like saying bi racial exists...you're

either white or non white ??"

Very simplistic _iew, of course bisexuality exists.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personally I don't think bi sexuality exists,you're either Gay or Straight

It's like saying bi racial exists...you're

either white or non white ??"

The analogy is more like:

straight/gay

black/white

Whereas actually, your argument discounts those who are mixed race or bisexual.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personally I don't think bi sexuality exists,you're either Gay or Straight

It's like saying bi racial exists...you're

either white or non white ??"

Eh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dear lord."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personally I don't think bi sexuality exists,you're either Gay or Straight

It's like saying bi racial exists...you're

either white or non white ??"
You can be half white tho and yes gay don't like women at all whilst bi like women and abit of cock lol.

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By *.nottsbloke..Man
over a year ago

the vale

"Personally I don't think bi sexuality exists,you're either Gay or Straight

It's like saying bi racial exists...you're

either white or non white ??"

how very enlightened of you

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Personally I don't think bi sexuality exists,you're either Gay or Straight

It's like saying bi racial exists...you're

either white or non white ??"

Or you're black, or non black

Or gay or not gay

Or straight or not straight

Or Bi or not Bi?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interested sexually in men and women - bisexual.

Interested sexually in men, women and other genders - pansexual.

Bicurious - likes stupid words.

lmao agree

Well there is:

Bisexual

Bi curious

Bi playful

Bi comfortable

Bi friendly

Bi situational

Bi sensual

Bi lingual

Bi lateral

Bi cycle

Bi monthly

Bi ologist

Bi nocular

By email

Bi partisan

Bi annual

Bi accident

Bi carbonate of soda

Bi polar

Bi plane

Bi ceps

Bi pedal "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you're Bi-sexual, then you know what it means...

If you're not Bi-sexual, then there's no point in your asking about it, is there....?

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By *all warriorMan
over a year ago

Co DURHAM

I love anal of a woman but got no interest taking a man

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By *damandeve4funCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

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By *xoticlover OP Man
over a year ago

newcastle

Thanks for the reply, it was really nice reading everyone's opinion...

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By *andom2chatMan
over a year ago

A Galaxy Far, Far Away & Spain

I've been following a few Bi threads as the fluid nature of people's sexuality interests me.

As a gay guy who prefers men you'd think I'd automatically be interested in other gay guys. Strangely they rarely do anything for me as I'm selective enough in "real life" & have a great partner who is masculine looking and a Bottom.

However since being on Adult Sites for years I've experimented & explored with a few hot men & women. Perhaps I'm just a horny sod but if I find someone attractive & we're comfortable I have no issues playing with either sex but my preference will always be guys. I've had plenty offers from men & women & even arranged MFMs with friends I trust implicitly (tho not so much now), & usually the girls were the ones who wanted to see two guys playing (just as men fantasise about FMFs). The lads have mostly been exclusively heterosexual & married but felt comfortable enough with us all exploring. Does that make them Hetrofkexible - who knows (or cares)? One of the nicest compliments I ever received was a guy saying I was the "straightest gay guy he'd ever met" but probably because I beat him to he girl. Anyway, whatever folk want to label themselves is fine by me, but let's remember we are all here to seek out experiences we wouldn't normally find in everyday life.

Have fun people.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

It's all a spectrum - I'm happily in the middle, it would seem.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

would be nice if people could just be for a minute without having to define the ass out of everything

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Am bi id go all the way man women tvts BUT with a guy it has to be with blindfolded am I weird in that way

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

This is like me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've been following a few Bi threads as the fluid nature of people's sexuality interests me.

Have fun people. "
true to every word

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agree or not but its interesting stuff:

Alternating bisexuals may have a relationship with a man, and then after that relationship ends, may choose a female partner for a subsequent relationship, and many go back to a male partner in the future.

Circumstantial bisexuals: primarily heterosexual, but will choose same sex partners only if they have no access to other-sex partners, such as when in jail, in the military, or in a gender-segregated school.

Concurrent relationship bisexuals: have primary relationship with one gender only but have other casual or secondary relationships with people of another gender at the same time.

Conditional bisexuals either straight or gay/lesbian, but will switch to a relationship with another gender for a specific purpose, such as young straight males who become gay prostitutes to make money or lesbians who get married to men in order to gain acceptance from family members or to have children.

Emotional bisexuals have deeply intimate emotional relationships with both men and women, but only have sex with one gender.

Integrated bisexuals have more than one primary relationship at the same time, one with a man and one with a woman.

Exploratory bisexuals: either straight or gay/lesbian, but have sex with another gender just to satisfy curiosity or “see what it’s like.”

Hedonistic bisexuals primarily straight or gay/lesbian but will sometimes have recreational sex with a different gender purely for sexual satisfaction.

Recreational bisexuals: primarily heterosexual but engage in gay or lesbian sex only when under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol.

Isolated bisexuals 100% straight or gay/lesbian now but has had at one or more sexual experience with another gender in the past.

Latent bisexuals completely straight or gay lesbian in behavior, they have strong desire for sex with another gender but have never acted on it.

Motivational bisexuals straight women who have sex with other women to please their male partner who requests it for his own titillataion.

Transitional bisexuals: temporarily identify as bisexual while in the process of moving from being straight to being gay or lesbian, or going from being gay or lesbian to being heterosexual.

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By *iSTARessWoman
over a year ago

London

I define my sexuality as queer...if you want it in a box, pansexual. I like people. I like to fuck humans. Simple.

Mainstream society insists we define ourselves, which is a shame (so many bi men list themselves as straight to keep up appearances).

I think most people are sexually fluid but who cares if everyone is having fun?

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By *ike4362ukMan
over a year ago

Cheshunt

I actually think that virtually all of us are bisexual to some degree. I'm a bottom, even though I've never experienced anal penetration.

I can easily understand straights that appreciate the male body and that is as far as their bisexuality goes. The thing I don't understand are those that violently dispute bisexuality, especially within themselves. Even if they repress it themselves, why hurt others; Just tell them!

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By *evinedecadenceCouple
over a year ago

Southsea

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By *evinedecadenceCouple
over a year ago

Southsea

I've always tried 'most' things twice...just to be sure and so far I'm not bisexual...although being fucked with a strap on (lots of lube!) takes pleasure to another level..doesn't do much for your sex face though

Mr D..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bi sexuality is like everything else, you like what you like. I am fully bisexual ie I like giving and receiving oral to both males and females, I also like to give and receive anal sex to and from males. There are some that don't like anal so are orally bi, etc. I think the categories on here need to be bisexual orally bi bi playfull and bi curious. But at the end of the day you go with the mood,a mate who ran a swingers club in Totton was playing with my good lady and I started sucking him he had never experienced this before and was a pleasure to note he didn't kick off or push me away he enjoyed it. Happy swinging guys x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you get sexually aroused by both sexes then you are bisexual. It doesn't matter which bit of the other person you touch or which bit of you you let them touch. If your turned on its sexual

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I will play with woman in group situations but it does nothing for me at all so I wouldn't class myself as bi as it does not turn me on

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By *andy6677Man
over a year ago

crewe

"I will play with woman in group situations but it does nothing for me at all so I wouldn't class myself as bi as it does not turn me on"

A woman i know like me is bi she has played with girls like have with guys but would only have a relationship with a guy as i would with a woman so we are a good match in that sense plus open about our sexuality does help to many people deny there true nature to each other which is one reason why so many relationships and marriages fail xxx

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By *ay2571Man
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I would say yes, if you enjoy a guy sucking your cock etc you are bisexual.

I would class my self bisexual as I enjoy having sex with men. But I also enjoy sex with women. My tastes change, sometimes I prefer guys, sometimes girls.

As for anal, I'm not a huge fan of it. When I've done it with guys (giving and receiving) it's been with people I have built up a relationship with. Saying that I love a finger or a dildo up there at times. More so from a girl than a guy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im not bisexual, just greedy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would class myself as orally bi as I enjoy playing and sucking a cock. I do like to look at them too and do get turned on by them, but not tried anal (both giving and receiving) - yet - but will do at some point.

I don't see a guy walking past though and think "he's cute" or anything like that.

I also prefer more feminine types of men if you know what I mean...

Not sure what that makes me...

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By *o new WinksMan
over a year ago

BSE

"I would class myself as orally bi as I enjoy playing and sucking a cock. I do like to look at them too and do get turned on by them, but not tried anal (both giving and receiving) - yet - but will do at some point.

I don't see a guy walking past though and think "he's cute" or anything like that.

I also prefer more feminine types of men if you know what I mean...

Not sure what that makes me...

Bisexual.

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By *evinedecadenceCouple
over a year ago

Southsea

I have no inclination to label my urges, I prefer to indulge them. (Ms Devine)

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By *ike4362ukMan
over a year ago

Cheshunt

A daft label. There are a spectrum of wishes and desires.

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By *lue and RedCouple
over a year ago

Ulverston

I rosi class my self as bi-playful. I am not bi as I could not have a relationship with a woman as I could with a man. Nor would I play solo with a female or do it to put on a show for the men. But as part of a group or a 3sum I will play if I choose to. thou I do seem to have a thing for boobs which fluke encourages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who really knows. I fancy women but I also enjoy sex with guys sometimes. Does everything have to be categorised?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Totally agree on that one.. x

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Bisexuality can be measured on one of 'em pesky scales; or so I have heard

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Sorry; Kinsey scales

[ I gotta loose some weight and some bisexuality too ]

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Bit of both, surely, OP :P

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone is bisexual to varying degrees. It's just most people won't admit it! !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who really knows. I fancy women but I also enjoy sex with guys sometimes. Does everything have to be categorised? "

Yes it helps.

Since we don't have unlimited time to correspond with everyone on the site a (truthful) label is a useful starting point if we are looking to meet someone who shares our sexual inclinations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everyone is bisexual to varying degrees. It's just most people won't admit it! !!!"

Sorry I disagree with the "everyone" bit. If you had used the word "many" I would have agreed.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

If two guys are doing DP and realise that part of the sensations they like come from the other's cock movements, are they only bi if it dawns on them?

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

I would define bisexuality as walking down the middle of the road and getting hit by traffic from both directions.

'S how it feels, sometimes.

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By *andom2chatMan
over a year ago

A Galaxy Far, Far Away & Spain

"I would define bisexuality as walking down the middle of the road and getting hit by traffic from both directions.

'S how it feels, sometimes. "

Remind me to shunt you from the rear.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In my opinion if you are intrigued about and want to try someone the same sex you are bicurious....if you have had sex of any type with someone the same sex on a number of occasions and enjoyed it and keep wanting more but like variety and the opposite sex also your bisexual.

I think you're way past the curious stage when its happened a few times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bi means u just wanna suck the cock lol

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By *andom2chatMan
over a year ago

A Galaxy Far, Far Away & Spain

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By *andom2chatMan
over a year ago

A Galaxy Far, Far Away & Spain

"Bi means u just wanna suck the cock lol

Tell that to my bi-lesbian pals!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bi means u just wanna suck the cock lol

Tell that to my bi-lesbian pals!

"
lol yes as they just wanna do the pussey

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In my opinion if you are intrigued about and want to try someone the same sex you are bicurious....if you have had sex of any type with someone the same sex on a number of occasions and enjoyed it and keep wanting more but like variety and the opposite sex also your bisexual.

I think you're way past the curious stage when its happened a few times."

And if you're curious about having sex with someone of the opposite sex, then you're straight-curious? It's only when you've shagged around a bit with the opposite sex that you're straight?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For many years I was what you would call Bi Curious and then when my ex wife and I started swiging many many years ago, things started to change as I in any mixed meeting, it was inevitable that al bodies could/would touch, them one thing lead to another, till I realised, do you know what; I actually enjoyed being touched and having my body admired at the same time as there being females around

These day, I am no longer Curious lol - but absolutely love the female form equally as much ----- yep I am greedy - so is that it really Bisexual, really is another word/meaning for "horny bugger who likes all sex" lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interested sexually in men and women - bisexual.

Interested sexually in men, women and other genders - pansexual."

Ah. Guess I must be pan rather than just bi then.

Anyone for tea?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im bi. But I'm not going to want to fuck a guys ass. Nope not interested. If i want to penetrate someone it'll be a girl.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

175. Boom!

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