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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs

As the title says?

I am principally attracted to women, however, I also find extremely feminine/passable transgender girls a huge turn on.

I recently met with a gorgeous TS girl on here (and had a great time). I would like to display her verification of our meet on my profile, however, I am reluctant to put off women and couples.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some are. Obviously.

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!

It doesn't put me off!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them.

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!

Be true to who you are,just find people who don't find it a turn off. Would you really want to meet those people anyway.

I wish more people were upfront and honest on this site.

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By *.nottsbloke..Man
over a year ago

nottinghamshire


"It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them. "

but its ok for you to be bi?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wouldn't put me off. I'm not bothered if men are bisexual either, if they're meeting me one on one there is no difference to meeting a straight man one on one. I wouldn't let others dictate what you should or shouldn't do, go with what you think is best.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doesn't bother us at all .

It will some , but would you really want to meet those who judge you anyway ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As the title says?

I am principally attracted to women, however, I also find extremely feminine/passable transgender girls a huge turn on.

I recently met with a gorgeous TS girl on here (and had a great time). I would like to display her verification of our meet on my profile, however, I am reluctant to put off women and couples.

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Wouldn't it be better to use it as a filter? If you add the meet and people are offended by it then you won't be meeting people that don't share your values anyway? That's got to be a good thing - right?

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman
over a year ago

Glenrothes

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"Be true to who you are,just find people who don't find it a turn off. Would you really want to meet those people anyway.

I wish more people were upfront and honest on this site. "

You make a very good point and this is the approach I would like to adopt. My only reservation is that not all people are equally broadminded/non judgemental.

I guess my concern is that some of these people who have less 'uninhibited' tastes (or less understanding of those of us who do) might still be attractive individuals and people who I might still enjoy meeting with for more 'vanilla' encounters...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've found that is the case OP, like you i've also indulged and when being honest about it to some women/couples that's ended the convo reeel quick! Lol

Each to their own I say

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman
over a year ago

Glenrothes

I don't care who does what and with whom, but I personally find it a turn off, hence my preferences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them.

but its ok for you to be bi?"

Personal preference. Men that are bi or whatever doesn't bother me, I just wouldn't meet with one. He asked a question, I answered. Op the others are right tho, you shouldn't let others dictate!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just post it, who cares about the potential couples/singles it might turn off. It certainly wouldn't bother me at all x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them.

but its ok for you to be bi?

Personal preference. Men that are bi or whatever doesn't bother me, I just wouldn't meet with one. He asked a question, I answered. Op the others are right tho, you shouldn't let others dictate! "

Totally get where your coming from. We run our profile the same way

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"I've found that is the case OP, like you i've also indulged and when being honest about it to some women/couples that's ended the convo reeel quick! Lol

Each to their own I say "

This is my concern.

It would be great to have the luxury to simply not be bothered about meeting these kind of people anyway, but, in reality as a single male on here (especially in an area that is not over brimming with attractive swingers), it seems counter productive to effectively limit my number of potential meets even further.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It does put me off but I don't know why. Same as if I see some of their other meets are right mingers, puts me off but really it shouldn't have any impact on my decision.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them. "

Why is that? What in particular puts you off?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've found that is the case OP, like you i've also indulged and when being honest about it to some women/couples that's ended the convo reeel quick! Lol

Each to their own I say

This is my concern.

It would be great to have the luxury to simply not be bothered about meeting these kind of people anyway, but, in reality as a single male on here (especially in an area that is not over brimming with attractive swingers), it seems counter productive to effectively limit my number of potential meets even further."

Saying your area is not full of attractive swingers and asking about "passable" T girls is counter productive anyway chap. Do what makes you happy at the end of the day why care about what others think?

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!


"Be true to who you are,just find people who don't find it a turn off. Would you really want to meet those people anyway.

I wish more people were upfront and honest on this site.

You make a very good point and this is the approach I would like to adopt. My only reservation is that not all people are equally broadminded/non judgemental.

I guess my concern is that some of these people who have less 'uninhibited' tastes (or less understanding of those of us who do) might still be attractive individuals and people who I might still enjoy meeting with for more 'vanilla' encounters..."

I understand that,so you are prepared to lie to those people about the fact you like meeting these girls?! That's not very fair on them,especially if they are against meeting bi guys.

Although as I've recently found out,an awful lot of guys are bi on here,but state straight on their profiles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them.

Why is that? What in particular puts you off?"

World war 3 may start with this. Ahhh

I like men to be men! He should be fucking my ass not getting his fucked.

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"It does put me off but I don't know why. Same as if I see some of their other meets are right mingers, puts me off but really it shouldn't have any impact on my decision."

I too am put off by verifications that show people have met with 'right mingers'. But, in many ways that makes me just as judgemental as those who might judge me for meeting TS girls

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"I like men to be men! He should be fucking my ass not getting his fucked. "

Who says meeting a TS girl has to mean the guy likes getting his arse fucked? It certainly doesn't in my case.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them.

Why is that? What in particular puts you off?

World war 3 may start with this. Ahhh

I like men to be men! He should be fucking my ass not getting his fucked. "

But if you met him, he would be, because you're a woman There is no difference in the way a bi man has sex with a woman than the way a straight man has sex with a woman. You don't act differently with a man because you're bi than I do because I'm straight.

I just genuinely don't get this...but as they say, each to their own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them.

Why is that? What in particular puts you off?

World war 3 may start with this. Ahhh

I like men to be men! He should be fucking my ass not getting his fucked.

But if you met him, he would be, because you're a woman There is no difference in the way a bi man has sex with a woman than the way a straight man has sex with a woman. You don't act differently with a man because you're bi than I do because I'm straight.

I just genuinely don't get this...but as they say, each to their own. "

It's actually the enthusiasm for strict bigender paradigms that bothers me most there.

Can't people just be people?

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman
over a year ago

Glenrothes

As with anything else in life, we all have our likes/dislikes. It would be boring if everyone liked the same things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As with anything else in life, we all have our likes/dislikes. It would be boring if everyone liked the same things. "

Exactly!

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By *urvybrunette91Woman
over a year ago

tidworth

Just put the verification up.

I would be pissed off, and not have a repeat meet, with someone that had met another person, that went against their sexual orientation on their profile, and I wasn't aware.

Why bother lying? Life's too short.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them.

Why is that? What in particular puts you off?

World war 3 may start with this. Ahhh

I like men to be men! He should be fucking my ass not getting his fucked.

But if you met him, he would be, because you're a woman There is no difference in the way a bi man has sex with a woman than the way a straight man has sex with a woman. You don't act differently with a man because you're bi than I do because I'm straight.

I just genuinely don't get this...but as they say, each to their own.

It's actually the enthusiasm for strict bigender paradigms that bothers me most there.

Can't people just be people?"

I realise I've used a lot of labelling terminology there; but my ultimate point is that when I'm with someone, what they do or do not do with someone else has absolutely no impact on me in that situation. So yes, people should just be people, and I'm either attracted to that person or I'm not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like men to be men! He should be fucking my ass not getting his fucked.

Who says meeting a TS girl has to mean the guy likes getting his arse fucked? It certainly doesn't in my case.

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Some women just don't get it pal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them.

Why is that? What in particular puts you off?

World war 3 may start with this. Ahhh

I like men to be men! He should be fucking my ass not getting his fucked.

But if you met him, he would be, because you're a woman There is no difference in the way a bi man has sex with a woman than the way a straight man has sex with a woman. You don't act differently with a man because you're bi than I do because I'm straight.

I just genuinely don't get this...but as they say, each to their own.

It's actually the enthusiasm for strict bigender paradigms that bothers me most there.

Can't people just be people?"

I get what you are all saying. I just don't like it. It's just my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them. "

Hypocrite.

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"I understand that,so you are prepared to lie to those people about the fact you like meeting these girls?! That's not very fair on them,especially if they are against meeting bi guys.

Although as I've recently found out,an awful lot of guys are bi on here,but state straight on their profiles."

You raise another interesting point.

Is a guy who is only attracted to feminine traits (cocks do nothing for me...only don't necessarily get in the way of me being turned on by all the feminine qualities of an attractive TS) the same as a bisexual?

I don't have a problem with bisexuality (of either gender), however, if I am not attracted at all by masculine traits am I in fact bisexual?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's a pity that people are bothered and somehow it turns someone who is blatantly attractive, into someone who is not attractive. The vagaries of peoples' minds.

Seeing the verification will not give them much information, I assume, such as whether the person was fully/partially transitioned etc. And yet that same person that was met and verified could have had their gender set as male or female, and a different conclusion would have been drawn.

I generally take a 'fuck em' approach. People who are so whimsical aren't likely the better people up top for many of us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them.

Hypocrite. "

I am.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It wouldn't put me off. Where a man has had his cock before me is none of my business. Also do not undertabd bi women who are horrified at the thought of bi men. hypocrites really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I understand that,so you are prepared to lie to those people about the fact you like meeting these girls?! That's not very fair on them,especially if they are against meeting bi guys.

Although as I've recently found out,an awful lot of guys are bi on here,but state straight on their profiles.

You raise another interesting point.

Is a guy who is only attracted to feminine traits (cocks do nothing for me...only don't necessarily get in the way of me being turned on by all the feminine qualities of an attractive TS) the same as a bisexual?

I don't have a problem with bisexuality (of either gender), however, if I am not attracted at all by masculine traits am I in fact bisexual? "

I think no, but I know a lot on here would disagree with me. I don't see having sex with someone who lives and identifies themselves as a woman as being the same as having sex with a man at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them.

Why is that? What in particular puts you off?

World war 3 may start with this. Ahhh

I like men to be men! He should be fucking my ass not getting his fucked.

But if you met him, he would be, because you're a woman There is no difference in the way a bi man has sex with a woman than the way a straight man has sex with a woman. You don't act differently with a man because you're bi than I do because I'm straight.

I just genuinely don't get this...but as they say, each to their own.

It's actually the enthusiasm for strict bigender paradigms that bothers me most there.

Can't people just be people?

I realise I've used a lot of labelling terminology there; but my ultimate point is that when I'm with someone, what they do or do not do with someone else has absolutely no impact on me in that situation. So yes, people should just be people, and I'm either attracted to that person or I'm not. "

I was agreeing with you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them.

Hypocrite.

I am. "

Stick is in the Hypocrite camp then because we won't meet BI Men but happy to meet BI women. Are we at all bothered by this?..........Nope too busy having awesome times.

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"I realise I've used a lot of labelling terminology there; but my ultimate point is that when I'm with someone, what they do or do not do with someone else has absolutely no impact on me in that situation. So yes, people should just be people, and I'm either attracted to that person or I'm not. "

Amen to that! I wish everyone could be that broadminded/liberated! Women like you are exactly the kind of women I like to meet, but, I fear you may be few and far between..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I get what you are all saying. I just don't like it. It's just my opinion. "

Don't you think it's a bit weird to think about how your meet behaves in bed with other people when they're having sex with you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As the title says?

I am principally attracted to women, however, I also find extremely feminine/passable transgender girls a huge turn on.

I recently met with a gorgeous TS girl on here (and had a great time). I would like to display her verification of our meet on my profile, however, I am reluctant to put off women and couples.

"

The only thing that puts me off is when someone's profile states "straight" when clearly, looking at their meets and who they are looking for, they are not!! Just be honest!!

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By *.nottsbloke..Man
over a year ago

nottinghamshire


"I get what you are all saying. I just don't like it. It's just my opinion.

Don't you think it's a bit weird to think about how your meet behaves in bed with other people when they're having sex with you?"

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By *irceWoman
over a year ago

Gloucester


"As the title says?

I am principally attracted to women, however, I also find extremely feminine/passable transgender girls a huge turn on.

I recently met with a gorgeous TS girl on here (and had a great time). I would like to display her verification of our meet on my profile, however, I am reluctant to put off women and couples.

"

What a shallow society many try to ensnare us into, glad the majority of guys i meet do not care what others think..without those who stand up and change the system we will always live in the shadows down trodden and abused

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I understand that,so you are prepared to lie to those people about the fact you like meeting these girls?! That's not very fair on them,especially if they are against meeting bi guys.

Although as I've recently found out,an awful lot of guys are bi on here,but state straight on their profiles.

You raise another interesting point.

Is a guy who is only attracted to feminine traits (cocks do nothing for me...only don't necessarily get in the way of me being turned on by all the feminine qualities of an attractive TS) the same as a bisexual?

I don't have a problem with bisexuality (of either gender), however, if I am not attracted at all by masculine traits am I in fact bisexual? "

I asked exactly the same question a couple of weeks ago .

Hopefully you will get an answer , I didn't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I understand that,so you are prepared to lie to those people about the fact you like meeting these girls?! That's not very fair on them,especially if they are against meeting bi guys.

Although as I've recently found out,an awful lot of guys are bi on here,but state straight on their profiles.

You raise another interesting point.

Is a guy who is only attracted to feminine traits (cocks do nothing for me...only don't necessarily get in the way of me being turned on by all the feminine qualities of an attractive TS) the same as a bisexual?

I don't have a problem with bisexuality (of either gender), however, if I am not attracted at all by masculine traits am I in fact bisexual? "

I've rolled around with a couple of Ts in my time yet i don't consider myself bisexual & neither did they...or they wouldn't have met me.

If someone else consider's you bisexual, let them...you don't seem the type of chap to loose sleep over it

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"I I think no, but I know a lot on here would disagree with me. I don't see having sex with someone who lives and identifies themselves as a woman as being the same as having sex with a man at all."

Yes, this is how I see it too...not that any of these labels really concern me...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doesn't bother me. I'm female n like transgender too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I get what you are all saying. I just don't like it. It's just my opinion.

Don't you think it's a bit weird to think about how your meet behaves in bed with other people when they're having sex with you?"

Who said I do that? I always check their veris out etc.

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!


"I understand that,so you are prepared to lie to those people about the fact you like meeting these girls?! That's not very fair on them,especially if they are against meeting bi guys.

Although as I've recently found out,an awful lot of guys are bi on here,but state straight on their profiles.

You raise another interesting point.

Is a guy who is only attracted to feminine traits (cocks do nothing for me...only don't necessarily get in the way of me being turned on by all the feminine qualities of an attractive TS) the same as a bisexual?

I don't have a problem with bisexuality (of either gender), however, if I am not attracted at all by masculine traits am I in fact bisexual? "

Surely a straight man wouldn't want to play with a person who has a cock. I don't know,we know what we like so why put a label on things. I'm looking for another bisexual guy at the moment and it's opened my eyes on a lot of things.

Maybe if you don't display the verification,the ts girl who you had a great time with would be pretty hurt...

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman
over a year ago

Glenrothes


"It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them.

Hypocrite. "

I don't think she's being hypocritical at all. Her body, her preference.

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"What a shallow society many try to ensnare us into, glad the majority of guys i meet do not care what others think..without those who stand up and change the system we will always live in the shadows down trodden and abused "

What a very good point you make.

I should be concerned that in not being open about my meets with and attraction to transgender women I am actually being insulting to both them and bolstering the lack of understanding society shows them in general.

This and other comments by others who have become involved in this discussion have lead me to decide that I should show this verification I mentioned and do so with pride!

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By *irceWoman
over a year ago

Gloucester

See not all TS have dicks!

Which seems to be the first image people seem to have..

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


".

Maybe if you don't display the verification, the ts girl who you had a great time with would be pretty hurt..."

This too is a very fair point...

Verification now displayed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".

Maybe if you don't display the verification, the ts girl who you had a great time with would be pretty hurt...

This too is a very fair point...

Verification now displayed "

Oh my , she is gorgeous .....

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!


".

Maybe if you don't display the verification, the ts girl who you had a great time with would be pretty hurt...

This too is a very fair point...

Verification now displayed "

Excellent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".

Maybe if you don't display the verification, the ts girl who you had a great time with would be pretty hurt...

This too is a very fair point...

Verification now displayed

Oh my , she is gorgeous ..... "

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff


"It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them.

Why is that? What in particular puts you off?

World war 3 may start with this. Ahhh

I like men to be men! He should be fucking my ass not getting his fucked. "

A lot of bi men never get their arses fucked!

For a lot like me its more cock sucking,kissing and wanking...the thought of bumming or being bummed makes me queasy

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


".

Maybe if you don't display the verification, the ts girl who you had a great time with would be pretty hurt...

This too is a very fair point...

Verification now displayed

Oh my , she is gorgeous ..... "

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


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Oh my , she is gorgeous ..... "

Yes, I know....as said in my verification of her...I am one lucky chap!

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By *irceWoman
over a year ago

Gloucester


".

Maybe if you don't display the verification, the ts girl who you had a great time with would be pretty hurt...

This too is a very fair point...

Verification now displayed "

_olarfox your a good guy i know there is a growing momentum of people who accept and we appreciate your understanding, it saves lives x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What a shallow society many try to ensnare us into, glad the majority of guys i meet do not care what others think..without those who stand up and change the system we will always live in the shadows down trodden and abused

What a very good point you make.

I should be concerned that in not being open about my meets with and attraction to transgender women I am actually being insulting to both them and bolstering the lack of understanding society shows them in general.

This and other comments by others who have become involved in this discussion have lead me to decide that I should show this verification I mentioned and do so with pride!"

Good on you!! Xx

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over a year ago

Makes me laugh how people think all men who meet tv/ts recieve anal.

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".

Oh my , she is gorgeous .....

Yes, I know....as said in my verification of her...I am one lucky chap!"

Very lucky , and well done for displaying the veri .

We did the same thing a short while back

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


".

Oh my , she is gorgeous .....

Yes, I know....as said in my verification of her...I am one lucky chap!

Very lucky , and well done for displaying the veri .

We did the same thing a short while back "

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"It's actually the enthusiasm for strict bigender paradigms that bothers me most there.

Can't people just be people?"

This is spot on too wasp_hunter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think it's hypocritical for a bi woman to not want to meet bi men. If she didn't want to meet other bi women, that would be IMO.

Anyway, OP you look hot & based on this thread seem like a good guy, so if it puts any women off I'd say it's their loss.

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By *itTVlondonTV/TS
over a year ago

London


"Be true to who you are,just find people who don't find it a turn off. Would you really want to meet those people anyway.

I wish more people were upfront and honest on this site. "

Well said and those (on here and elsewhere) who say they won't meet men who have seen/do see bis/TVs/TSs are in total denial about the fact that they will NEVER know if the man they are meeting is "totally" straight; wake up, smell the coffee; the men you are meeting may have seen me/other TVs/TSs/Bis/Other before you. And they haven't even told YOU (fancy that!!!)

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"Anyway, OP you look hot & based on this thread seem like a good guy, so if it puts any women off I'd say it's their loss."

Thank you Sarah - that's sweet of you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As much as I agree that who you are and what you have done should not define you,

These are people preferences

So no I don't think its fair to hide your veri in a bid to deny them the opportunity of being fully aware who they are arranging to meet,

Be open, be honest, meet the right people,

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"As much as I agree that who you are and what you have done should not define you,

These are people preferences

So no I don't think its fair to hide your veri in a bid to deny them the opportunity of being fully aware who they are arranging to meet,

Be open, be honest, meet the right people,

"

This seems like very fair comment.

I've been very impressed by the response to the topic I raised. Many honest and thought provoking contributions have been made.

As mentioned earlier, I have now decided to be upfront and have displayed the verification I mentioned at the start of the thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fair play,

Not trying in any way to instruct you on how you manage you profile,

But some will shy away from a straight profile with a TV\TS veri,

They just will, "ooh not very straight, blah blah judgment judgment"

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"Fair play,

Not trying in any way to instruct you on how you manage you profile,

But some will shy away from a straight profile with a TV\TS veri,

They just will, "ooh not very straight, blah blah judgment judgment"

"

If you read through some of the earlier discussion you'll see that there is also a debate about what constitutes straight or bi in different peoples opinions.

I and at least one other tended to concur that an attraction to transgender girls (as girls), where no attraction to males/cocks/masculinity exists is not exactly the same as being bisexual...

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By *asokittyWoman
over a year ago

Nr Worksop

I am and I won't meet bi guys either. Just my preference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fair play,

Not trying in any way to instruct you on how you manage you profile,

But some will shy away from a straight profile with a TV\TS veri,

They just will, "ooh not very straight, blah blah judgment judgment"

If you read through some of the earlier discussion you'll see that there is also a debate about what constitutes straight or bi in different peoples opinions.

I and at least one other tended to concur that an attraction to transgender girls (as girls), where no attraction to males/cocks/masculinity exists is not exactly the same as being bisexual... "

If someone is transgender then they should be treated as the gender in which they live - no matter their genitals.

If someone is a transvestite (as most of the crossdressers are on this site) then you should treat them as the gender that they lived in, dressed in the clothes of the opposite gender.

So most on this site would be men wearing clothes marketed to women. Not transwomen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It puts me off when guys meet TV/TS and then say they're straight.

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By *irceWoman
over a year ago

Gloucester


"It puts me off when guys meet TV/TS and then say they're straight."

Do you feel the same way about post-op TS?

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London&Dublin


"

I like men to be men! He should be fucking my ass not getting his fucked. "

.

Not all CD/TV/TS penetrate guys...

Some don't even perform anal sex...just oral.

I respect your preference, but that's pretty narrow minded.

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"Fair play,

If someone is transgender then they should be treated as the gender in which they live - no matter their genitals.

"

I agree

...and as a man who can be attracted to such transgender women (as females), I still regard myself as fundamentally straight. What matters to me is whether I find a woman attractive, regardless of whether she is a 'genetic' female or a transgender female.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a few theories..

the age old sti/aids thing

fear of being dumped for a man

most men are happy to get what they need(ie to cum),sometime at the expense of their integrity..and to be honest..some of the bi-male mail I get does make me conclude I'd get a sex meet without any engaging conversation etc(no need to show face either..), so...that might not be something a woman(bi or straight) really likes to think about..

I particularly am not fond of the hidden bi people..especially those 'straight' hubbies out there...often using their wife as bait..

There are gems in every group on fab, regardless of their sex,sexuality etc..

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"

I like men to be men! He should be fucking my ass not getting his fucked.

.

Not all CD/TV/TS penetrate guys...

Some don't even perform anal sex...just oral.

I respect your preference, but that's pretty narrow minded."

...and there are plenty of guys (myself included) who have no interest in being penetrated by them...

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"

There are gems in every group on fab, regardless of their sex,sexuality etc.."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

There are gems in every group on fab, regardless of their sex,sexuality etc.."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

There are gems in every group on fab, regardless of their sex,sexuality etc..

"

oh n I forgot to mention im a gem

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What does put me off are men who use tgirls as a last resort because they aren't having any luck with women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fair play,

If someone is transgender then they should be treated as the gender in which they live - no matter their genitals.

I agree

...and as a man who can be attracted to such transgender women (as females), I still regard myself as fundamentally straight. What matters to me is whether I find a woman attractive, regardless of whether she is a 'genetic' female or a transgender female."

No need to put 'female' in brackets. Transwomen are just women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

There are gems in every group on fab, regardless of their sex,sexuality etc..

oh n I forgot to mention im a gem "

lend me a tenner bitch

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"Fair play,

No need to put 'female' in brackets. Transwomen are just women. "

I agree...and stand corrected

Badly worded, but I was trying to get across that it is entirely their femininity and 'femaleness' that I am attracted to regardless of the gender they were born

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By *irceWoman
over a year ago

Gloucester


"What does put me off are men who use tgirls as a last resort because they aren't having any luck with women. "

Lmao, low blow or what....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've met many men over the years and most are straight married . I'm discreet so therefore don't expect a verification from them .

True about some guys seeing us as a last resort . However they can be ed out quickly. Some guys just find us t girls to be sexier , dirtier and more horny . Personally I like men and the beautiful real women here so I'm here for all to enjoy xx

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!


"What does put me off are men who use tgirls as a last resort because they aren't having any luck with women. "

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff


"As the title says?

I am principally attracted to women, however, I also find extremely feminine/passable transgender girls a huge turn on.

I recently met with a gorgeous TS girl on here (and had a great time). I would like to display her verification of our meet on my profile, however, I am reluctant to put off women and couples.

"

The flip side is what about the TV/TS that are putting off meeting you because you don't have that type of verification? Some will like it, some will not, but where a door closes another can open x

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!


"What does put me off are men who use tgirls as a last resort because they aren't having any luck with women.

Lmao, low blow or what....

"

Yeah,don't know how to respond to that remark!

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"As the title says?

The flip side is what about the TV/TS that are putting off meeting you because you don't have that type of verification? Some will like it, some will not, but where a door closes another can open x"

Well, with the veri now published it will be interesting to see how it effects things.... watch this space

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

There are gems in every group on fab, regardless of their sex,sexuality etc..

oh n I forgot to mention im a gem

lend me a tenner bitch "

Im no ones bitch

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What does put me off are men who use tgirls as a last resort because they aren't having any luck with women. "

Oooooof straight to the feels. When you make it sound like that it's almost like a commodity.

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By *nigmatic1Woman
over a year ago

A seaside town near you!


"Be true to who you are,just find people who don't find it a turn off. Would you really want to meet those people anyway.

I wish more people were upfront and honest on this site. "

This

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By *nigmatic1Woman
over a year ago

A seaside town near you!


"As the title says?

The flip side is what about the TV/TS that are putting off meeting you because you don't have that type of verification? Some will like it, some will not, but where a door closes another can open x

Well, with the veri now published it will be interesting to see how it effects things.... watch this space "

Well let's face it...she's gorgeous!!!

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"

Well let's face it...she's gorgeous!!! "

Isn't she

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Well let's face it...she's gorgeous!!!

Isn't she

"

Oh my god you were worried! She is incredible! Well done you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As the title says?

I am principally attracted to women, however, I also find extremely feminine/passable transgender girls a huge turn on.

I recently met with a gorgeous TS girl on here (and had a great time). I would like to display her verification of our meet on my profile, however, I am reluctant to put off women and couples.

"

Nope

I've always wanted a 3sum with a guy and a TS so bring her with you I'll shag you both

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"

Oh my god you were worried! She is incredible! Well done you!"

Thanks ...lol

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By *apillonNoirWoman
over a year ago

There...

It matters little to me if a man has met and enjoyed a T Girl. Having met and enjoyed the company of some great folk on here as well as enjoying fabulous sex (!) where my strap on has been enjoyed, I'd say it's all about finding out about yourself and learning what does and doesn't count as fun. I'm lucky enough to have met some very broad minded people who have let me into their worlds. I count that as exceptional trust and respect and long may it continue. I'm pleased you've shown the veri. Let those with different ideas of fun pass you by (as they do me!). Fab has a huge number of members - you'll find those with similar interests and have huge fun I'm sure

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By *andy6677Man
over a year ago

crewe

Ive met TS women and men in the past as well as genetic men and women and treat all the same as each other as it should be in my opinion. I display all verifications i recieve. Regardless if it puts others off me as so far as im concerned its a way of thanking the other person for meeting with me.

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By *heekychops20Woman
over a year ago

Mischievious Muscliffe (Bournemouth)

I am not interested in anyone who is interested in tv/cd/ts... really not my thing at all... complete turn off for me

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By *andy6677Man
over a year ago

crewe


"It matters little to me if a man has met and enjoyed a T Girl. Having met and enjoyed the company of some great folk on here as well as enjoying fabulous sex (!) where my strap on has been enjoyed, I'd say it's all about finding out about yourself and learning what does and doesn't count as fun. I'm lucky enough to have met some very broad minded people who have let me into their worlds. I count that as exceptional trust and respect and long may it continue. I'm pleased you've shown the veri. Let those with different ideas of fun pass you by (as they do me!). Fab has a huge number of members - you'll find those with similar interests and have huge fun I'm sure "

I know i dont regret it. Ive found transexuals to be more willing to explore than others and more sorted about who they are and what they want out of life and thats worth a lot too. We all have our likes and dislikes thats what makes us who we are. But what i would say is if anyone is tempted but not sure to meet a transexual i say do it you wont regret it and you might make a new friend in the process which is always welcome.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am not interested in anyone who is interested in tv/cd/ts... really not my thing at all... complete turn off for me"

We are the same. In the past we have encountered guys on fab whose profile claims they are straight but they show verifications from tv/cd guys.

Our take on that is they are undeniably either gay or bi & we find that a bit of a passion killer so would avoid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Be true to who you are,just find people who don't find it a turn off. Would you really want to meet those people anyway.

I wish more people were upfront and honest on this site. "

exactly this, the amount of messages i get from straight guys offering to blow me is ridiculous, then i look at their veris and all of them are from females. makes me sick that all those women are being taken for a fool and meeting with guys that are only looking for women all the while they are sucking guys cock on the side lol. same goes for straight guys only looking to meet women, then you see the veri that they leave for meeting tgirls.

guys need to grow some balls and start being honest about their sexuality!!! i feel for the women that are being lied to.

meh, never mind, just be honest i say.

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By *andy6677Man
over a year ago

crewe

Exactly honesty is the best policy. The guys i cant stand are those straight ones that deny to themselves that they are bi or gay. Then still get married and then do it behind there wives backs with other guys!

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"Be true to who you are,just find people who don't find it a turn off. Would you really want to meet those people anyway."
I agree


"I wish more people were upfront and honest on this site.

You make a very good point and this is the approach I would like to adopt. My only reservation is that not all people are equally broadminded/non judgemental.

I guess my concern is that some of these people who have less 'uninhibited' tastes (or less understanding of those of us who do) might still be attractive individuals and people who I might still enjoy meeting with for more 'vanilla' encounters..."
But you then run the risk that they find out eventually that you are bisexual, leaving them feeling upset and cheated, and hence making you feel dishonest and guilty.

"Publish and use it as an additional filter"

Mr ddc

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

I wouldn't have a problem with this at all. You're hot, she's hot.....infact would you mind passing on my details? Lol

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"I wouldn't have a problem with this at all. You're hot, she's hot.....infact would you mind passing on my details? Lol "

...thank you very muchly ...You might have to drop her a line yourself though as I'm not sure whether she's in to girls....I most certainly am though

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman
over a year ago

Glenrothes


"Be true to who you are,just find people who don't find it a turn off. Would you really want to meet those people anyway.

I wish more people were upfront and honest on this site.

Well said and those (on here and elsewhere) who say they won't meet men who have seen/do see bis/TVs/TSs are in total denial about the fact that they will NEVER know if the man they are meeting is "totally" straight; wake up, smell the coffee; the men you are meeting may have seen me/other TVs/TSs/Bis/Other before you. And they haven't even told YOU (fancy that!!!) "

I'm not that naive to think I may have met only totally straight guys. If I KNOW they are bi/bi curious, meet tvs, I choose not to meet them. Doesn't mean I won't chat with the, because I have, even to the stage of looking to meet, but something holds me back. Again, my body, my choice. I don't need a lecture about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Be true to who you are,just find people who don't find it a turn off. Would you really want to meet those people anyway.

I wish more people were upfront and honest on this site.

Well said and those (on here and elsewhere) who say they won't meet men who have seen/do see bis/TVs/TSs are in total denial about the fact that they will NEVER know if the man they are meeting is "totally" straight; wake up, smell the coffee; the men you are meeting may have seen me/other TVs/TSs/Bis/Other before you. And they haven't even told YOU (fancy that!!!)

I'm not that naive to think I may have met only totally straight guys. If I KNOW they are bi/bi curious, meet tvs, I choose not to meet them. Doesn't mean I won't chat with the, because I have, even to the stage of looking to meet, but something holds me back. Again, my body, my choice. I don't need a lecture about it. "

Perfectly put people complain about labels but then are quick to label people as homophobes for simply having their own preferences. I say good on the OP for coming out so to speak.

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman
over a year ago

Glenrothes


"Be true to who you are,just find people who don't find it a turn off. Would you really want to meet those people anyway.

I wish more people were upfront and honest on this site.

Well said and those (on here and elsewhere) who say they won't meet men who have seen/do see bis/TVs/TSs are in total denial about the fact that they will NEVER know if the man they are meeting is "totally" straight; wake up, smell the coffee; the men you are meeting may have seen me/other TVs/TSs/Bis/Other before you. And they haven't even told YOU (fancy that!!!)

I'm not that naive to think I may have met only totally straight guys. If I KNOW they are bi/bi curious, meet tvs, I choose not to meet them. Doesn't mean I won't chat with the, because I have, even to the stage of looking to meet, but something holds me back. Again, my body, my choice. I don't need a lecture about it.

Perfectly put people complain about labels but then are quick to label people as homophobes for simply having their own preferences. I say good on the OP for coming out so to speak. "

I've been accused of being homophobic because of who I won't meet. As I have close friends who are gay and bi and friends who are Ts (One post op and one pre op), those accusers couldn't be more wrong. On saying that, if I met a man where the chemistry was right between us, I am sure nothing would hold me back!

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman
over a year ago

Glenrothes

Oh and I agree, good for the OP for being totally honest.

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport


"Oh and I agree, good for the OP for being totally honest. "

Well said.

Anyway why can't we be like the Polynesians, all live in one big hut and move about a lot.

Jenny xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If a man says he is bi or bicurious then it's fine.

If a man says he is straight and meets TVs then he is not being honest with himself.

TVs are very sexy but a woman and a TV are not interchangeable!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's your personal preference to show or not.

I just choose to be discreet who I meet on here and have no desire to share with everyone who I been with.

That is a private matter only for the eyes of genuine potential meets not for the whole site to see.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's your personal preference to show or not.

I just choose to be discreet who I meet on here and have no desire to share with everyone who I been with.

That is a private matter only for the eyes of genuine potential meets not for the whole site to see. "

And that's totally your right and prerogative . The very reason one has the choice as to whether to display or not .

For others the verifications are a part of the shop window so to speak , and they choose to show them , or some of them .

It's all good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's your personal preference to show or not.

I just choose to be discreet who I meet on here and have no desire to share with everyone who I been with.

That is a private matter only for the eyes of genuine potential meets not for the whole site to see.

And that's totally your right and prerogative . The very reason one has the choice as to whether to display or not .

For others the verifications are a part of the shop window so to speak , and they choose to show them , or some of them .

It's all good "

Yeah tbh and less hassle in my case then when I did show.

Men on here can be more bitchy to each other then the women. lol x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hasn't put me off either. I've met guys who have met them.

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By *nigmatic1Woman
over a year ago

A seaside town near you!


"

Well let's face it...she's gorgeous!!!

Isn't she

"

Oh yes ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Well let's face it...she's gorgeous!!!

Isn't she

Oh yes ... "

She's absolutely stunning!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them.

but its ok for you to be bi?"

I'm fat but don't meet fat men. I'm black and don't meet black men. Nought as queer as folk!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Doesn't bother us at all .

It will some , but would you really want to meet those who judge you anyway ?

"

Why is someone's preference seen as a judgement?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Be true to who you are,just find people who don't find it a turn off. Would you really want to meet those people anyway.

I wish more people were upfront and honest on this site. "

I like it if someones bi/ sees TV,TS girls...shows they re open minded. Im put off if a profile states multiple times how straight the user is x

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I've found that is the case OP, like you i've also indulged and when being honest about it to some women/couples that's ended the convo reeel quick! Lol

Each to their own I say

This is my concern.

It would be great to have the luxury to simply not be bothered about meeting these kind of people anyway, but, in reality as a single male on here (especially in an area that is not over brimming with attractive swingers), it seems counter productive to effectively limit my number of potential meets even further."

Yes, because we're going to appeal to everyone!

I prefer to meet people who fulfil my needs. That could be once a week or once a year. I don't comprise just to increase the frequency of meets, but each to their own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As the title says?

I am principally attracted to women, however, I also find extremely feminine/passable transgender girls a huge turn on.

I recently met with a gorgeous TS girl on here (and had a great time). I would like to display her verification of our meet on my profile, however, I am reluctant to put off women and couples.

"

I will be honest... When I first joined I wouldn't meet guys who had this on their profile or bicurious I wasn't very open minded to say the least!!

Iv now become more open minded in those areas and would like to have a meet with a TS myself.

As for not showing your verification from the TS ... Verifications whether they are from women, men, whoever can sometimes put people off. You can't please everyone.

I'd be honest though on fab, telling lies gets you no where.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"It wouldn't put me off. Where a man has had his cock before me is none of my business. Also do not undertabd bi women who are horrified at the thought of bi men. hypocrites really. "

Any different to the promiscuous people on this site banging all comers yet saddle up and mount their high horses should anyone dare mention bareback?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It puts me off..

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"As the title says?

I am principally attracted to women, however, I also find extremely feminine/passable transgender girls a huge turn on.

I recently met with a gorgeous TS girl on here (and had a great time). I would like to display her verification of our meet on my profile, however, I am reluctant to put off women and couples.

What a shallow society many try to ensnare us into, glad the majority of guys i meet do not care what others think..without those who stand up and change the system we will always live in the shadows down trodden and abused "

Down trodden and abused?!! Get a grip!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes..very much so

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I don't think it's hypocritical for a bi woman to not want to meet bi men. If she didn't want to meet other bi women, that would be IMO.

Anyway, OP you look hot & based on this thread seem like a good guy, so if it puts any women off I'd say it's their loss."

Not their loss at all or they'd go there. If I don't want something how is it my loss?

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By *ickawitchCouple
over a year ago

Away with the fairies (Liverpool to you)


".

Maybe if you don't display the verification, the ts girl who you had a great time with would be pretty hurt...

This too is a very fair point...

Verification now displayed "

She is gorgeous

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By *irceWoman
over a year ago

Gloucester


"As the title says?

I am principally attracted to women, however, I also find extremely feminine/passable transgender girls a huge turn on.

I recently met with a gorgeous TS girl on here (and had a great time). I would like to display her verification of our meet on my profile, however, I am reluctant to put off women and couples.

What a shallow society many try to ensnare us into, glad the majority of guys i meet do not care what others think..without those who stand up and change the system we will always live in the shadows down trodden and abused

Down trodden and abused?!! Get a grip! "

I have and that is why i fight my corner, do you know my life? the sheer torture of society's actions upon TS weighs heavy and last week i actually was to end my life, but fate came to my rescue for now.

I find your comment cold and filled with venom..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As the title says?

I am principally attracted to women, however, I also find extremely feminine/passable transgender girls a huge turn on.

I recently met with a gorgeous TS girl on here (and had a great time). I would like to display her verification of our meet on my profile, however, I am reluctant to put off women and couples.

What a shallow society many try to ensnare us into, glad the majority of guys i meet do not care what others think..without those who stand up and change the system we will always live in the shadows down trodden and abused

Down trodden and abused?!! Get a grip!

I have and that is why i fight my corner, do you know my life? the sheer torture of society's actions upon TS weighs heavy and last week i actually was to end my life, but fate came to my rescue for now.

I find your comment cold and filled with venom..

"

This

In our local town there is a TV who occasionally dresses up and does her make up to do her shopping and have a coffee if she is brave enough . No big deal you may think , but the looks and abuse she endures are awful . She looks almost scared as she cautiously walks through the scowling faces .

Myself and my wife always make a point of chatting to her , helping her feel comfortable and she spends ages getting tips and sharing make up tips with Sabrina . The way she changes from her nervous and shy way to a more confident and sassy way is amazing . Yet we seem to be the only people who give her the time of day and don't judge or ridicule her .

I have had numerous friends and colleagues question me as to why I talk to her . As the lifestyle is a secret world for us , I have to explain that it's just ' us being nice ' , when in actual fact we applaud her and wish she could be accepted like anyone else .

Of course we don't know how it feels to be ostracised by society . Nor do we know how it must feel to dress up and prepare for the impending looks , stares and general disdain . And we know for a fact that she has been disowned by her family .

So when someone says ' get a grip ' it is a cold and heartless comment which certainly doesn't help . Especially when it's said on a swingers site of all places

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By *andy6677Man
over a year ago

crewe


"As the title says?

I am principally attracted to women, however, I also find extremely feminine/passable transgender girls a huge turn on.

I recently met with a gorgeous TS girl on here (and had a great time). I would like to display her verification of our meet on my profile, however, I am reluctant to put off women and couples.

What a shallow society many try to ensnare us into, glad the majority of guys i meet do not care what others think..without those who stand up and change the system we will always live in the shadows down trodden and abused

Down trodden and abused?!! Get a grip!

I have and that is why i fight my corner, do you know my life? the sheer torture of society's actions upon TS weighs heavy and last week i actually was to end my life, but fate came to my rescue for now.

I find your comment cold and filled with venom..

"

some people dont know how to treat others with respect

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very eye opening thread. Shows that some prejudices will never change. Props to op for showing the veri. And props to people who have supported him for doing so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As the title says?

I am principally attracted to women, however, I also find extremely feminine/passable transgender girls a huge turn on.

I recently met with a gorgeous TS girl on here (and had a great time). I would like to display her verification of our meet on my profile, however, I am reluctant to put off women and couples.

What a shallow society many try to ensnare us into, glad the majority of guys i meet do not care what others think..without those who stand up and change the system we will always live in the shadows down trodden and abused

Down trodden and abused?!! Get a grip!

I have and that is why i fight my corner, do you know my life? the sheer torture of society's actions upon TS weighs heavy and last week i actually was to end my life, but fate came to my rescue for now.

I find your comment cold and filled with venom..

This

In our local town there is a TV who occasionally dresses up and does her make up to do her shopping and have a coffee if she is brave enough . No big deal you may think , but the looks and abuse she endures are awful . She looks almost scared as she cautiously walks through the scowling faces .

Myself and my wife always make a point of chatting to her , helping her feel comfortable and she spends ages getting tips and sharing make up tips with Sabrina . The way she changes from her nervous and shy way to a more confident and sassy way is amazing . Yet we seem to be the only people who give her the time of day and don't judge or ridicule her .

I have had numerous friends and colleagues question me as to why I talk to her . As the lifestyle is a secret world for us , I have to explain that it's just ' us being nice ' , when in actual fact we applaud her and wish she could be accepted like anyone else .

Of course we don't know how it feels to be ostracised by society . Nor do we know how it must feel to dress up and prepare for the impending looks , stares and general disdain . And we know for a fact that she has been disowned by her family .

So when someone says ' get a grip ' it is a cold and heartless comment which certainly doesn't help . Especially when it's said on a swingers site of all places "

Fantastic post.

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman
over a year ago

Glenrothes

I get totally pissed off at being judged because I won't meet a certain group. It's my body so who I have sex with is my preference. It doesn't make me closed minded or prejudiced. Nor does it stop me socialising with my gay/bi/ts friends, in fact I have a great time out. Life would be so bloody dull if we all liked the same things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I get totally pissed off at being judged because I won't meet a certain group. It's my body so who I have sex with is my preference. It doesn't make me closed minded or prejudiced. Nor does it stop me socialising with my gay/bi/ts friends, in fact I have a great time out. Life would be so bloody dull if we all liked the same things."

Totally agree that it would be dull if we all liked the same things .

But who has judged you ?

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"Very eye opening thread. Shows that some prejudices will never change. Props to op for showing the veri. And props to people who have supported him for doing so. "

Thank you Moshermick

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By *hortieWoman
over a year ago

Northampton

If the guy in question has Bi on his profile, no him meeting a TV/TS wouldn't put me off one little bit.. quite the opposite in fact.

If the guy says he is straight, I would think twice.

I love men who own their Bi side - and no matter how girly a TV looks.. its still a dude.

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman
over a year ago

Glenrothes


"I get totally pissed off at being judged because I won't meet a certain group. It's my body so who I have sex with is my preference. It doesn't make me closed minded or prejudiced. Nor does it stop me socialising with my gay/bi/ts friends, in fact I have a great time out. Life would be so bloody dull if we all liked the same things.

Totally agree that it would be dull if we all liked the same things .

But who has judged you ?"

Not on this thread but previously ones. Didn't make that clear.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I get totally pissed off at being judged because I won't meet a certain group. It's my body so who I have sex with is my preference. It doesn't make me closed minded or prejudiced. Nor does it stop me socialising with my gay/bi/ts friends, in fact I have a great time out. Life would be so bloody dull if we all liked the same things.

Totally agree that it would be dull if we all liked the same things .

But who has judged you ?

Not on this thread but previously ones. Didn't make that clear. "

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs

I have been pleasantly surprised by just how non judgemental the vast majority of contributions to this thread have been.

I was interested in opinions and how people felt about the situation and this is what I have got.

I would like to underline that I in know way judge those who are disinclined to meet with guys who have similar sexual preferences to my own.

Indeed, this site should be all about allowing each and everyone of us to connect with anyone who happens to float our particular boat/boats

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am 100% straight. But I might think one day you know I want to suck a cock. Maybe just to see what it's like and for no other reason. I'd like to think I wouldn't be judged for doing that. Clearly if it was someone on here and they verified me i would be. Sad times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It does put me off but I don't know why. Same as if I see some of their other meets are right mingers, puts me off but really it shouldn't have any impact on my decision."

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"As the title says?

I am principally attracted to women, however, I also find extremely feminine/passable transgender girls a huge turn on.

I recently met with a gorgeous TS girl on here (and had a great time). I would like to display her verification of our meet on my profile, however, I am reluctant to put off women and couples.

What a shallow society many try to ensnare us into, glad the majority of guys i meet do not care what others think..without those who stand up and change the system we will always live in the shadows down trodden and abused

Down trodden and abused?!! Get a grip!

I have and that is why i fight my corner, do you know my life? the sheer torture of society's actions upon TS weighs heavy and last week i actually was to end my life, but fate came to my rescue for now.

I find your comment cold and filled with venom..

"

It's all relative, as you say I don't know your life nor you mine. There are those on here who' know what I do for a living, my own loss, my daughter's suicide attempt, detention in a secure unit at 15. I've seen first hand my parents being down trodden and abused. So when I see what appears to be a throwaway statement: get a grip seemed appropriate to me.

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By *entadreadMan
over a year ago

Essex


"As the title says?

I am principally attracted to women, however, I also find extremely feminine/passable transgender girls a huge turn on.

I recently met with a gorgeous TS girl on here (and had a great time). I would like to display her verification of our meet on my profile, however, I am reluctant to put off women and couples.

"

Put the veri up man... you enjoyed the meet, compliment the TS. if people are put off, that is their preference, the same way Transsexuals are yours. it will also act as a filter, that way if someone contacts you, then they should be comfortable with your interests... Life is too short to worry about pleasing everyone bar yourself.

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"I am 100% straight. But I might think one day you know I want to suck a cock. Maybe just to see what it's like and for no other reason. I'd like to think I wouldn't be judged for doing that. Clearly if it was someone on here and they verified me i would be. Sad times.

"

I myself am not at all into sucking cocks (regardless of who they might be attached to).

What I find slightly bizarre and representative of a double standard is the fact that women who are perfectly happy licking pussy, regard the idea of a man sucking another man's cock as so abhorrent. I guess its all to do with preconceptions about acts which are regarded as 'feminine/feminizing'..ie cock sucking and those which are essentially 'masculine/maculinizing'...ie pussy licking or fucking. It seems that its ok for a woman to adopt the latter (even if one of them requires donning a strap on), but for a man to do the former is generally frowned upon...at least in so called 'straight' society

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By *olarfox OP   Man
over a year ago

North Cambs


"As the title says?

Put the veri up man... you enjoyed the meet, compliment the TS. if people are put off, that is their preference, the same way Transsexuals are yours. it will also act as a filter, that way if someone contacts you, then they should be comfortable with your interests... Life is too short to worry about pleasing everyone bar yourself. "

Its now been up since yesterday afternoon

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By *entadreadMan
over a year ago

Essex


"As the title says?

Put the veri up man... you enjoyed the meet, compliment the TS. if people are put off, that is their preference, the same way Transsexuals are yours. it will also act as a filter, that way if someone contacts you, then they should be comfortable with your interests... Life is too short to worry about pleasing everyone bar yourself.

Its now been up since yesterday afternoon "

Good man, now enjoy the weekend...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them.

but its ok for you to be bi?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hmm. Possibly though I'd still like a meet with D and a TS

B

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would put me off. If a mans profile says they are bi sexual too I would not persue a meet with them.

but its ok for you to be bi?

"

I think it's ok for anyone to be anyone they want to be on here without questions asked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am 100% straight. But I might think one day you know I want to suck a cock. Maybe just to see what it's like and for no other reason. I'd like to think I wouldn't be judged for doing that. Clearly if it was someone on here and they verified me i would be. Sad times.

I myself am not at all into sucking cocks (regardless of who they might be attached to).

What I find slightly bizarre and representative of a double standard is the fact that women who are perfectly happy licking pussy, regard the idea of a man sucking another man's cock as so abhorrent. I guess its all to do with preconceptions about acts which are regarded as 'feminine/feminizing'..ie cock sucking and those which are essentially 'masculine/maculinizing'...ie pussy licking or fucking. It seems that its ok for a woman to adopt the latter (even if one of them requires donning a strap on), but for a man to do the former is generally frowned upon...at least in so called 'straight' society "

As as been said people have their preferences. What I find bizarre is a woman who just outright don't entertain bi guys, regardless of their own preferences. In a 1 on 1 situation the bloke is seeing to the needs of that woman and is acting in a straight manner. I fail to see what difference it makes whatsoever. And a comment I saw earlier suggested bi guys aren't 100% real men. That is a crass thing to say.

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By *irceWoman
over a year ago

Gloucester


"As the title says?

I am principally attracted to women, however, I also find extremely feminine/passable transgender girls a huge turn on.

I recently met with a gorgeous TS girl on here (and had a great time). I would like to display her verification of our meet on my profile, however, I am reluctant to put off women and couples.

What a shallow society many try to ensnare us into, glad the majority of guys i meet do not care what others think..without those who stand up and change the system we will always live in the shadows down trodden and abused

Down trodden and abused?!! Get a grip!

I have and that is why i fight my corner, do you know my life? the sheer torture of society's actions upon TS weighs heavy and last week i actually was to end my life, but fate came to my rescue for now.

I find your comment cold and filled with venom..

It's all relative, as you say I don't know your life nor you mine. There are those on here who' know what I do for a living, my own loss, my daughter's suicide attempt, detention in a secure unit at 15. I've seen first hand my parents being down trodden and abused. So when I see what appears to be a throwaway statement: get a grip seemed appropriate to me.

WTF yep not a good enough issue for you then for someone else to have harrowing pain.... Your just what i face in society, guess what i have bad times as well more than you will ever understand and i give empathy "still" to those who i see in pain.

"

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By *irceWoman
over a year ago

Gloucester

Sorry OP not posting anymore on this issue, have taken it off topic to long please accept my apologizes..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As the title says?

I am principally attracted to women, however, I also find extremely feminine/passable transgender girls a huge turn on.

I recently met with a gorgeous TS girl on here (and had a great time). I would like to display her verification of our meet on my profile, however, I am reluctant to put off women and couples.

What a shallow society many try to ensnare us into, glad the majority of guys i meet do not care what others think..without those who stand up and change the system we will always live in the shadows down trodden and abused

Down trodden and abused?!! Get a grip!

I have and that is why i fight my corner, do you know my life? the sheer torture of society's actions upon TS weighs heavy and last week i actually was to end my life, but fate came to my rescue for now.

I find your comment cold and filled with venom..

It's all relative, as you say I don't know your life nor you mine. There are those on here who' know what I do for a living, my own loss, my daughter's suicide attempt, detention in a secure unit at 15. I've seen first hand my parents being down trodden and abused. So when I see what appears to be a throwaway statement: get a grip seemed appropriate to me.

"

Do you really think it was a throwaway statement?

I didn't , I think it was heartfelt , and to be honest , we all have a history .

Some are lucky and not too much gets too them , others are more sensitive .

As I mentioned in my previous post , the plight of TVs can be tortuous , and there really didn't seem any need to tell her to get a grip . But it's an open forum and if you feel it appropriate then fair enough .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" ..

What I find slightly bizarre and representative of a double standard is the fact that women who are perfectly happy licking pussy, regard the idea of a man sucking another man's cock as so abhorrent.

... "

A woman fucking a woman is not the same as a man fucking a man.

A pussy is not the same as a cock.

How on earth is it a double standard?

I find many things abhorrent. I really couldn't give a flying crap what other people think about that.

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff


"As the title says?

I am principally attracted to women, however, I also find extremely feminine/passable transgender girls a huge turn on.

I recently met with a gorgeous TS girl on here (and had a great time). I would like to display her verification of our meet on my profile, however, I am reluctant to put off women and couples.

What a shallow society many try to ensnare us into, glad the majority of guys i meet do not care what others think..without those who stand up and change the system we will always live in the shadows down trodden and abused

Down trodden and abused?!! Get a grip!

I have and that is why i fight my corner, do you know my life? the sheer torture of society's actions upon TS weighs heavy and last week i actually was to end my life, but fate came to my rescue for now.

I find your comment cold and filled with venom..

It's all relative, as you say I don't know your life nor you mine. There are those on here who' know what I do for a living, my own loss, my daughter's suicide attempt, detention in a secure unit at 15. I've seen first hand my parents being down trodden and abused. So when I see what appears to be a throwaway statement: get a grip seemed appropriate to me.

"
well everyone ever has had loss and shit happen so a comparison of'shit-life-has-thrown-at-you' being used as an excuse to belittle others still isn't appropriate, and it was eloquently explained to you. Yep - tv's and ts' s are incredibly downtrodden and abused, your total ignorance about this doesn't make is some silly little issue.

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff


"I am 100% straight. But I might think one day you know I want to suck a cock. Maybe just to see what it's like and for no other reason. I'd like to think I wouldn't be judged for doing that. Clearly if it was someone on here and they verified me i would be. Sad times.

I myself am not at all into sucking cocks (regardless of who they might be attached to).

What I find slightly bizarre and representative of a double standard is the fact that women who are perfectly happy licking pussy, regard the idea of a man sucking another man's cock as so abhorrent. I guess its all to do with preconceptions about acts which are regarded as 'feminine/feminizing'..ie cock sucking and those which are essentially 'masculine/maculinizing'...ie pussy licking or fucking. It seems that its ok for a woman to adopt the latter (even if one of them requires donning a strap on), but for a man to do the former is generally frowned upon...at least in so called 'straight' society "
can't help but feel that lesbianism has been massively fetishised by mainstream society in a way that man-on-man action has not. I remember being in uni where 'bi-curious' was a fashion label for females, and the common risqué conversation with the girls was whether they would go gay for a night with Angelina Jolie, while the boys in class waited until after uni to come out.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Pops in to see if blood is still flying about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As the title says?

I am principally attracted to women, however, I also find extremely feminine/passable transgender girls a huge turn on.

I recently met with a gorgeous TS girl on here (and had a great time). I would like to display her verification of our meet on my profile, however, I am reluctant to put off women and couples.

"

A lot of people on here well simply lie, either about their status (married, attached), their preferences, ages, how they look (more than a few should have gone to specsavers) In short whatever it takes to get a date/shag whatever.

If that means not having bi or an inkling of bi on their profile, then some some will do that.

I've had guys email who very specifically state they are not into Tv's. Some I've met just wont post veri's from Tv's or Ts (not that I fall into the category of passable transgender)

In short it takes all sorts on here, straight, bi, gay and all variations in-between.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" ..

What I find slightly bizarre and representative of a double standard is the fact that women who are perfectly happy licking pussy, regard the idea of a man sucking another man's cock as so abhorrent.

...

A woman fucking a woman is not the same as a man fucking a man.

A pussy is not the same as a cock.

How on earth is it a double standard?

I find many things abhorrent. I really couldn't give a flying crap what other people think about that."

Guessing you are not into anal then lol

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By *ackdd72Man
over a year ago

the valleys

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By *ackdd72Man
over a year ago

the valleys


"Be true to who you are,just find people who don't find it a turn off. Would you really want to meet those people anyway.

I wish more people were upfront and honest on this site. "

This

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

Yes of course it will put off some women and couples.

There will also be plenty that aren't put off or bothered by it.

We fall in the latter group.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wouldn't bother me

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