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"Just curious as to why people do this when it is potentially very dangerous? It certainly puts us off if we see another couple play BB, wondered what everyone's thoughts were?" When you say see another couple play bareback... Are you talking about a stable couple fucking each other? Nothing wrong with that, perfectly normal. We have been going to Clubs for years and never seen full swap going on without condoms. | |||
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"Just curious as to why people do this when it is potentially very dangerous? It certainly puts us off if we see another couple play BB, wondered what everyone's thoughts were?" I think I would much rather we operate in an atmosphere of openness where people feel able to state a preference for bareback without censure. This means we can all make informed choices  | |||
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"Just curious as to why people do this when it is potentially very dangerous? It certainly puts us off if we see another couple play BB, wondered what everyone's thoughts were? I think I would much rather we operate in an atmosphere of openness where people feel able to state a preference for bareback without censure. This means we can all make informed choices "This always  | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! "
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"Just curious as to why people do this when it is potentially very dangerous? It certainly puts us off if we see another couple play BB, wondered what everyone's thoughts were? I think I would much rather we operate in an atmosphere of openness where people feel able to state a preference for bareback without censure. This means we can all make informed choices
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! " This | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! " | |||
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"Why do people smoke, eat too much, drink excessively, text whilst driving, need I go on? Humans do all sort of things that there is very good evidence increases your risk of mortality and many of the above have a much higher mortality risk than barebacking So rather than narrow your question to a single activity maybe ask why in general humans act this way?" I like this!!! | |||
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"Just curious as to why people do this when it is potentially very dangerous? It certainly puts us off if we see another couple play BB, wondered what everyone's thoughts were? I think I would much rather we operate in an atmosphere of openness where people feel able to state a preference for bareback without censure. This means we can all make informed choices "Good for me! | |||
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"Just curious as to why people do this when it is potentially very dangerous? It certainly puts us off if we see another couple play BB, wondered what everyone's thoughts were?" When i was young i only ever did bareback, never caught anything either. Some people don't really think about the risks in the heat of the moment, feel lucky i never caught anything. | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! " Where did this come from?? I havent seen anyone getting on their moral high horse in this thread yet. | |||
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"Why do people smoke, eat too much, drink excessively, text whilst driving, need I go on? Humans do all sort of things that there is very good evidence increases your risk of mortality and many of the above have a much higher mortality risk than barebacking So rather than narrow your question to a single activity maybe ask why in general humans act this way?" Because this is the particular subject theyre interested in at this point in time. is that not obvious? | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! "
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them!
Well said!!! "Why is it well said? Who are these mythical people on their moral high horses in this thread??  | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! " What a fabulously put sentence ! Well done | |||
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"No idea if this is true or not but I read a while back that if you kept walking across the motorway blindfolded having sex with a different stanger every time you got to the other side the odds of you catching an STD is 2 times higher than getting ran over. Anyway, although we think it's a little daft to play with a total stranger bareback we also don't have the right to tell others what to do or pull them down about it. Leave the people that choose to do this alone, we all take risks in everything we do, how much of a risk a person is willing to take is up to the individual, just don't message them if you don't like it
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! What a fabulously put sentence ! Well done" I give up!  | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! What a fabulously put sentence ! Well done I give up! "Ummm, the OP's question could be considered as saddling on this mythical horse. Just saying... 
But in answering the question, this lifestyle makes you more likely to pick up something nasty as you have more partners and more active sexually. While condoms help reduce the chance, it doesn't make you "safe."  | |||
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"Why do people smoke, eat too much, drink excessively, text whilst driving, need I go on? Humans do all sort of things that there is very good evidence increases your risk of mortality and many of the above have a much higher mortality risk than barebacking So rather than narrow your question to a single activity maybe ask why in general humans act this way?" Go home people argument won right here. | |||
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"Would only ever bareback with my long term partner.." Even that can be dangerous as I found out after finding out some time ago that mine was swinging with someone else bareback. They were at a large risk of something at one point, yet I wasn't told and found out long after the event..... very wrong. Everyone has freedom of choice as to what they do, but it's the honesty with others that's most importan, so they can make their own informed choice x | |||
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"Just curious as to why people do this when it is potentially very dangerous? It certainly puts us off if we see another couple play BB, wondered what everyone's thoughts were?" Do you actually understand what risks mean? Do you realise that you could get a STI even though you use a condom every time you have sex? Do you realise you can get a STI by fingering your partner? Do you know you could get an STI through kissing? The risks for all the above may be small but if you happen to be the unlucky one the risk was 100%. Life is a risk people have to judge how much risk they are prepared to accept. Some will accept higher risks than others. If that is their choice they that is up to them. As swingers we already accept higher risks than non swingers why then should we judge people who take higher risks than ourselves. | |||
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""Dangerous" when will we get a "bareback" post without this piece of hyperbole attached? Bomb disposal is dangerous, cliff diving is dangerous, drug taking is dangerous; bareback is more risky than protected sex at catching a STI. Now for Russian roulette to be mentioned. Again! "It is like playing Russian Roulette with a p***k. 
Sorry for being flippant, but you are correct. It is risky as are many other acts including 'protected' sex. Those who want to do, do; those who don't, don't
As for treating those who do with silly statements like "it is good to know so we can avoid you" is nothing less than delusions of grandeur | |||
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"Perceived wisdom is it "feels nicer". I'd rather not have to report to the clap clinic the following week myself." so because you use a condom, do you feel the need to never visit the "clap" clinic as you put it. | |||
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"Just curious as to why people do this when it is potentially very dangerous? It certainly puts us off if we see another couple play BB, wondered what everyone's thoughts were?" Because they can? | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex." How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me? | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me?" Now surely you know that only swingers have unprotected sex and lie about it.  | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me?" I wouldn't but I assume that swingers have had sex with a lot more people so are more at risk. | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me? Now surely you know that only swingers have unprotected sex and lie about it. "You mean, others lie too? . Shame on them | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me? Now surely you know that only swingers have unprotected sex and lie about it.
You mean, others lie too? . Shame on them "Yep! Guess what people who don't swing have sex with loads of different partners too, who knew? | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me? I wouldn't but I assume that swingers have had sex with a lot more people so are more at risk." I wouldn't assume swingers have had sex with a lot more people. | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex." Has that cock you are sucking got a condom on it? Have you weighed up those risks too? | |||
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"Just curious as to why people do this when it is potentially very dangerous? It certainly puts us off if we see another couple play BB, wondered what everyone's thoughts were?" Juggling hedgehogs is also dangerous | |||
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"I go bare with my regualar partner and have done for a long time, what I do with him has no bearing on what I will do with anyone else, the best thing to do is take care of yourself and let others run their own lives they way they want to " And dont preach to others until you get regularly tested and give oral with condoms on while wrapping yourself in clingfilm | |||
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"Think I m more at risk goin for a blast on my bike !! "Correct. | |||
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"Just curious as to why people do this when it is potentially very dangerous? It certainly puts us off if we see another couple play BB, wondered what everyone's thoughts were?" Wrestling with giant octopus is also hellish risque  | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. Has that cock you are sucking got a condom on it? Have you weighed up those risks too?" yes indeed I have and do, I don't believe in burying my head in the sand and pretending to myself that it doesn't matter. | |||
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"as we have said on a number of these threads the words are very misleading , there's no such thing as safe sex, just "safer sex ". Condoms people seem to think are a magical shield stoping you ever getting infected with anything , how many use condoms and never visit the gum clinics ? That's the more worrying thing than bb in itself ! Btw yes we use condoms with other partners but still visit the clinic and get tested ! " It is even safer sex when condoms are used during oral sex. A notch safer than that is condoms on fingers when inserting inside the vagina Not suggesting that people who use condoms during penetrative sex should now abandon these just because they do not use these during oral sex, etc. Just saying that each person here decides upon a level of risk to take and nobody here is really safe | |||
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"Just curious as to why people do this when it is potentially very dangerous? It certainly puts us off if we see another couple play BB, wondered what everyone's thoughts were?" You have every right to be curious and concerned about anything you want to be its just that some people get slightly defensive on here about certain things. | |||
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"Fuck me it's Groundhog Day! "Bareback or with a condom? | |||
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"as we have said on a number of these threads the words are very misleading , there's no such thing as safe sex, just "safer sex ". Condoms people seem to think are a magical shield stoping you ever getting infected with anything , how many use condoms and never visit the gum clinics ? That's the more worrying thing than bb in itself ! Btw yes we use condoms with other partners but still visit the clinic and get tested ! It is even safer sex when condoms are used during oral sex. A notch safer than that is condoms on fingers when inserting inside the vagina Not suggesting that people who use condoms during penetrative sex should now abandon these just because they do not use these during oral sex, etc. Just saying that each person here decides upon a level of risk to take and nobody here is really safe" Yes that's right nobody is completely safe, look up the Terrence higgens trust it says that you are very much less likely to catch hiv by having oral sex. hiv being my main concern. | |||
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"as we have said on a number of these threads the words are very misleading , there's no such thing as safe sex, just "safer sex ". Condoms people seem to think are a magical shield stoping you ever getting infected with anything , how many use condoms and never visit the gum clinics ? That's the more worrying thing than bb in itself ! Btw yes we use condoms with other partners but still visit the clinic and get tested ! It is even safer sex when condoms are used during oral sex. A notch safer than that is condoms on fingers when inserting inside the vagina Not suggesting that people who use condoms during penetrative sex should now abandon these just because they do not use these during oral sex, etc. Just saying that each person here decides upon a level of risk to take and nobody here is really safe Yes that's right nobody is completely safe, look up the Terrence higgens trust it says that you are very much less likely to catch hiv by having oral sex. hiv being my main concern." you are less likely yes, that is all, you have a lesser chance, but the chance is still there. | |||
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"as we have said on a number of these threads the words are very misleading , there's no such thing as safe sex, just "safer sex ". Condoms people seem to think are a magical shield stoping you ever getting infected with anything , how many use condoms and never visit the gum clinics ? That's the more worrying thing than bb in itself ! Btw yes we use condoms with other partners but still visit the clinic and get tested ! It is even safer sex when condoms are used during oral sex. A notch safer than that is condoms on fingers when inserting inside the vagina Not suggesting that people who use condoms during penetrative sex should now abandon these just because they do not use these during oral sex, etc. Just saying that each person here decides upon a level of risk to take and nobody here is really safe Yes that's right nobody is completely safe, look up the Terrence higgens trust it says that you are very much less likely to catch hiv by having oral sex. hiv being my main concern. you are less likely yes, that is all, you have a lesser chance, but the chance is still there." More chance of getting a fat lip from sparring with a boxing octopus though or being chinned by a kickboxing giant centipede | |||
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"as we have said on a number of these threads the words are very misleading , there's no such thing as safe sex, just "safer sex ". Condoms people seem to think are a magical shield stoping you ever getting infected with anything , how many use condoms and never visit the gum clinics ? That's the more worrying thing than bb in itself ! Btw yes we use condoms with other partners but still visit the clinic and get tested ! It is even safer sex when condoms are used during oral sex. A notch safer than that is condoms on fingers when inserting inside the vagina Not suggesting that people who use condoms during penetrative sex should now abandon these just because they do not use these during oral sex, etc. Just saying that each person here decides upon a level of risk to take and nobody here is really safe Yes that's right nobody is completely safe, look up the Terrence higgens trust it says that you are very much less likely to catch hiv by having oral sex. hiv being my main concern. you are less likely yes, that is all, you have a lesser chance, but the chance is still there.More chance of getting a fat lip from sparring with a boxing octopus though or being chinned by a kickboxing giant centipede "Even if they are wrapped in a condom? | |||
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"as we have said on a number of these threads the words are very misleading , there's no such thing as safe sex, just "safer sex ". Condoms people seem to think are a magical shield stoping you ever getting infected with anything , how many use condoms and never visit the gum clinics ? That's the more worrying thing than bb in itself ! Btw yes we use condoms with other partners but still visit the clinic and get tested ! It is even safer sex when condoms are used during oral sex. A notch safer than that is condoms on fingers when inserting inside the vagina Not suggesting that people who use condoms during penetrative sex should now abandon these just because they do not use these during oral sex, etc. Just saying that each person here decides upon a level of risk to take and nobody here is really safe Yes that's right nobody is completely safe, look up the Terrence higgens trust it says that you are very much less likely to catch hiv by having oral sex. hiv being my main concern. you are less likely yes, that is all, you have a lesser chance, but the chance is still there.More chance of getting a fat lip from sparring with a boxing octopus though or being chinned by a kickboxing giant centipede
Even if they are wrapped in a condom? "Thats just a sporting chance thing.......best way a bareback threads gone in a long while | |||
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"as we have said on a number of these threads the words are very misleading , there's no such thing as safe sex, just "safer sex ". Condoms people seem to think are a magical shield stoping you ever getting infected with anything , how many use condoms and never visit the gum clinics ? That's the more worrying thing than bb in itself ! Btw yes we use condoms with other partners but still visit the clinic and get tested ! It is even safer sex when condoms are used during oral sex. A notch safer than that is condoms on fingers when inserting inside the vagina Not suggesting that people who use condoms during penetrative sex should now abandon these just because they do not use these during oral sex, etc. Just saying that each person here decides upon a level of risk to take and nobody here is really safe Yes that's right nobody is completely safe, look up the Terrence higgens trust it says that you are very much less likely to catch hiv by having oral sex. hiv being my main concern. you are less likely yes, that is all, you have a lesser chance, but the chance is still there.More chance of getting a fat lip from sparring with a boxing octopus though or being chinned by a kickboxing giant centipede "They can be quite aggressive them centipedes | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! " | |||
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"Oh no Dont do this thread !!!! Its been done a million times" | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! " | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me? I wouldn't but I assume that swingers have had sex with a lot more people so are more at risk. I wouldn't assume swingers have had sex with a lot more people." | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me? I wouldn't but I assume that swingers have had sex with a lot more people so are more at risk. I wouldn't assume swingers have had sex with a lot more people. "I think its more likely that they have somehow. | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! What a fabulously put sentence ! Well done I give up!
Ummm, the OP's question could be considered as saddling on this mythical horse. Just saying...
But in answering the question, this lifestyle makes you more likely to pick up something nasty as you have more partners and more active sexually. While condoms help reduce the chance, it doesn't make you "safe." "It's the people that use condoms but don't ever get tested that people should be worried about..... | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! What a fabulously put sentence ! Well done I give up!
Ummm, the OP's question could be considered as saddling on this mythical horse. Just saying...
But in answering the question, this lifestyle makes you more likely to pick up something nasty as you have more partners and more active sexually. While condoms help reduce the chance, it doesn't make you "safe."
It's the people that use condoms but don't ever get tested that people should be worried about....."yes I think that has been suggested, several times. | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me? I wouldn't but I assume that swingers have had sex with a lot more people so are more at risk. I wouldn't assume swingers have had sex with a lot more people." Eh, i would...and for obvious reasons. Always amazes me on these threads when you get the 'you could get knocked down crossing the road blah blah blah' brigade chiming in, as if thats some kind of argument. Yes, we know all forms of sex contain an element of risk, but some acts are far more risky than others, so therefore the name of the game is minimising risk as best as possible. Jesus, some people think its all or nothing, 'fuck it, you could get an sti from fingering...so bollocks to it all and lets all dive in and have unprotected double anal gangbangs!' | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! What a fabulously put sentence ! Well done I give up!
Ummm, the OP's question could be considered as saddling on this mythical horse. Just saying...
But in answering the question, this lifestyle makes you more likely to pick up something nasty as you have more partners and more active sexually. While condoms help reduce the chance, it doesn't make you "safe."
It's the people that use condoms but don't ever get tested that people should be worried about....."Lets be honest here, no its not. Its those who dont use condoms are the ones we should be worried about. Lets not get silly now | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! What a fabulously put sentence ! Well done I give up!
Ummm, the OP's question could be considered as saddling on this mythical horse. Just saying...
But in answering the question, this lifestyle makes you more likely to pick up something nasty as you have more partners and more active sexually. While condoms help reduce the chance, it doesn't make you "safe."
It's the people that use condoms but don't ever get tested that people should be worried about.....
yes I think that has been suggested, several times."I'm too lazy to read the whole thread. Did anyone win the 'russian roulette quote' prize? | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me? I wouldn't but I assume that swingers have had sex with a lot more people so are more at risk. I wouldn't assume swingers have had sex with a lot more people. Eh, i would...and for obvious reasons. Always amazes me on these threads when you get the 'you could get knocked down crossing the road blah blah blah' brigade chiming in, as if thats some kind of argument. Yes, we know all forms of sex contain an element of risk, but some acts are far more risky than others, so therefore the name of the game is minimising risk as best as possible. Jesus, some people think its all or nothing, 'fuck it, you could get an sti from fingering...so bollocks to it all and lets all dive in and have unprotected double anal gangbangs!' "my goodness, someone speaks some sense at last. | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! What a fabulously put sentence ! Well done I give up!
Ummm, the OP's question could be considered as saddling on this mythical horse. Just saying...
But in answering the question, this lifestyle makes you more likely to pick up something nasty as you have more partners and more active sexually. While condoms help reduce the chance, it doesn't make you "safe."
It's the people that use condoms but don't ever get tested that people should be worried about.....
Lets be honest here, no its not. Its those who dont use condoms are the ones we should be worried about. Lets not get silly now"Bless you. | |||
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Jeeeez how fucking hard can it be to grasp that | |||
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"Just curious as to why people do this when it is potentially very dangerous? It certainly puts us off if we see another couple play BB, wondered what everyone's thoughts were?" Because it feels grrrrrreat.... | |||
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"Ultimately a I shall say it again it's up to you to take care of yourself and don't worry about anyone else as what they do is their business and if you don't like it then avoid them
Jeeeez how fucking hard can it be to grasp that "Its not hard to grasp it at all, i havent read any comments from people struggling to grasp that. The op was probing why people would do it given the heightened risk...not asking whats the best thing to do regarding those who bb | |||
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"Ultimately a I shall say it again it's up to you to take care of yourself and don't worry about anyone else as what they do is their business and if you don't like it then avoid them
Jeeeez how fucking hard can it be to grasp that "Apparently, very. At a sight of a condom, most go soft and it then becomes very difficult to grasp and slap one on. | |||
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"Ultimately a I shall say it again it's up to you to take care of yourself and don't worry about anyone else as what they do is their business and if you don't like it then avoid them
Jeeeez how fucking hard can it be to grasp that
Its not hard to grasp it at all, i havent read any comments from people struggling to grasp that. The op was probing why people would do it given the heightened risk...not asking whats the best thing to do regarding those who bb" | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me? I wouldn't but I assume that swingers have had sex with a lot more people so are more at risk. I wouldn't assume swingers have had sex with a lot more people. Eh, i would...and for obvious reasons. Always amazes me on these threads when you get the 'you could get knocked down crossing the road blah blah blah' brigade chiming in, as if thats some kind of argument. Yes, we know all forms of sex contain an element of risk, but some acts are far more risky than others, so therefore the name of the game is minimising risk as best as possible. Jesus, some people think its all or nothing, 'fuck it, you could get an sti from fingering...so bollocks to it all and lets all dive in and have unprotected double anal gangbangs!' "Obvious reason that swingers are the only ones having sex with multiple people? Hmm lemme think about that one lol. | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me? I wouldn't but I assume that swingers have had sex with a lot more people so are more at risk. I wouldn't assume swingers have had sex with a lot more people. Eh, i would...and for obvious reasons. Always amazes me on these threads when you get the 'you could get knocked down crossing the road blah blah blah' brigade chiming in, as if thats some kind of argument. Yes, we know all forms of sex contain an element of risk, but some acts are far more risky than others, so therefore the name of the game is minimising risk as best as possible. Jesus, some people think its all or nothing, 'fuck it, you could get an sti from fingering...so bollocks to it all and lets all dive in and have unprotected double anal gangbangs!'
Obvious reason that swingers are the only ones having sex with multiple people? Hmm lemme think about that one lol."Nope, didnt say that and you know it. Im making a safe assumption that swingers have sex with MORE people than non swingers...if you cant see the logic behind that, god help you | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me? I wouldn't but I assume that swingers have had sex with a lot more people so are more at risk. I wouldn't assume swingers have had sex with a lot more people. Eh, i would...and for obvious reasons. Always amazes me on these threads when you get the 'you could get knocked down crossing the road blah blah blah' brigade chiming in, as if thats some kind of argument. Yes, we know all forms of sex contain an element of risk, but some acts are far more risky than others, so therefore the name of the game is minimising risk as best as possible. Jesus, some people think its all or nothing, 'fuck it, you could get an sti from fingering...so bollocks to it all and lets all dive in and have unprotected double anal gangbangs!'
Obvious reason that swingers are the only ones having sex with multiple people? Hmm lemme think about that one lol.
Nope, didnt say that and you know it. Im making a safe assumption that swingers have sex with MORE people than non swingers...if you cant see the logic behind that, god help you"I can see the logic behind your thinking yes. But we are talking about meeting someone in a nightclub. That person could very well be a player and have sex with far more people than any swinger. In light of the fact that this thread is about risks then it's even more important not to make assumptions. Don't need a made up entities help | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me? I wouldn't but I assume that swingers have had sex with a lot more people so are more at risk. I wouldn't assume swingers have had sex with a lot more people. Eh, i would...and for obvious reasons. Always amazes me on these threads when you get the 'you could get knocked down crossing the road blah blah blah' brigade chiming in, as if thats some kind of argument. Yes, we know all forms of sex contain an element of risk, but some acts are far more risky than others, so therefore the name of the game is minimising risk as best as possible. Jesus, some people think its all or nothing, 'fuck it, you could get an sti from fingering...so bollocks to it all and lets all dive in and have unprotected double anal gangbangs!'
Obvious reason that swingers are the only ones having sex with multiple people? Hmm lemme think about that one lol.
Nope, didnt say that and you know it. Im making a safe assumption that swingers have sex with MORE people than non swingers...if you cant see the logic behind that, god help you
I can see the logic behind your thinking yes. But we are talking about meeting someone in a nightclub. That person could very well be a player and have sex with far more people than any swinger.
In light of the fact that this thread is about risks then it's even more important not to make assumptions.
Don't need a made up entities help "usualy young people who have more sexual partners though, not as many as they do on here though, also on here a lot of us are meeting the same people. | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me? I wouldn't but I assume that swingers have had sex with a lot more people so are more at risk. I wouldn't assume swingers have had sex with a lot more people. Eh, i would...and for obvious reasons. Always amazes me on these threads when you get the 'you could get knocked down crossing the road blah blah blah' brigade chiming in, as if thats some kind of argument. Yes, we know all forms of sex contain an element of risk, but some acts are far more risky than others, so therefore the name of the game is minimising risk as best as possible. Jesus, some people think its all or nothing, 'fuck it, you could get an sti from fingering...so bollocks to it all and lets all dive in and have unprotected double anal gangbangs!'
Obvious reason that swingers are the only ones having sex with multiple people? Hmm lemme think about that one lol.
Nope, didnt say that and you know it. Im making a safe assumption that swingers have sex with MORE people than non swingers...if you cant see the logic behind that, god help you
I can see the logic behind your thinking yes. But we are talking about meeting someone in a nightclub. That person could very well be a player and have sex with far more people than any swinger.
In light of the fact that this thread is about risks then it's even more important not to make assumptions.
Don't need a made up entities help
usualy young people who have more sexual partners though, not as many as they do on here though, also on here a lot of us are meeting the same people."That makes sense. | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me? I wouldn't but I assume that swingers have had sex with a lot more people so are more at risk. I wouldn't assume swingers have had sex with a lot more people. Eh, i would...and for obvious reasons. Always amazes me on these threads when you get the 'you could get knocked down crossing the road blah blah blah' brigade chiming in, as if thats some kind of argument. Yes, we know all forms of sex contain an element of risk, but some acts are far more risky than others, so therefore the name of the game is minimising risk as best as possible. Jesus, some people think its all or nothing, 'fuck it, you could get an sti from fingering...so bollocks to it all and lets all dive in and have unprotected double anal gangbangs!'
Obvious reason that swingers are the only ones having sex with multiple people? Hmm lemme think about that one lol.
Nope, didnt say that and you know it. Im making a safe assumption that swingers have sex with MORE people than non swingers...if you cant see the logic behind that, god help you
I can see the logic behind your thinking yes. But we are talking about meeting someone in a nightclub. That person could very well be a player and have sex with far more people than any swinger.
In light of the fact that this thread is about risks then it's even more important not to make assumptions.
Don't need a made up entities help "So everyone is deemed the same risk as everyone else so are they? No, theyre obviously not. | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me? I wouldn't but I assume that swingers have had sex with a lot more people so are more at risk. I wouldn't assume swingers have had sex with a lot more people. Eh, i would...and for obvious reasons. Always amazes me on these threads when you get the 'you could get knocked down crossing the road blah blah blah' brigade chiming in, as if thats some kind of argument. Yes, we know all forms of sex contain an element of risk, but some acts are far more risky than others, so therefore the name of the game is minimising risk as best as possible. Jesus, some people think its all or nothing, 'fuck it, you could get an sti from fingering...so bollocks to it all and lets all dive in and have unprotected double anal gangbangs!'
Obvious reason that swingers are the only ones having sex with multiple people? Hmm lemme think about that one lol.
Nope, didnt say that and you know it. Im making a safe assumption that swingers have sex with MORE people than non swingers...if you cant see the logic behind that, god help you
I can see the logic behind your thinking yes. But we are talking about meeting someone in a nightclub. That person could very well be a player and have sex with far more people than any swinger.
In light of the fact that this thread is about risks then it's even more important not to make assumptions.
Don't need a made up entities help
So everyone is deemed the same risk as everyone else so are they? No, theyre obviously not."Yes they are! That's the point. The only safe way is to assume everyone you ever meet is a risk. That's just common sense! | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me? I wouldn't but I assume that swingers have had sex with a lot more people so are more at risk. I wouldn't assume swingers have had sex with a lot more people. Eh, i would...and for obvious reasons. Always amazes me on these threads when you get the 'you could get knocked down crossing the road blah blah blah' brigade chiming in, as if thats some kind of argument. Yes, we know all forms of sex contain an element of risk, but some acts are far more risky than others, so therefore the name of the game is minimising risk as best as possible. Jesus, some people think its all or nothing, 'fuck it, you could get an sti from fingering...so bollocks to it all and lets all dive in and have unprotected double anal gangbangs!'
Obvious reason that swingers are the only ones having sex with multiple people? Hmm lemme think about that one lol.
Nope, didnt say that and you know it. Im making a safe assumption that swingers have sex with MORE people than non swingers...if you cant see the logic behind that, god help you
I can see the logic behind your thinking yes. But we are talking about meeting someone in a nightclub. That person could very well be a player and have sex with far more people than any swinger.
In light of the fact that this thread is about risks then it's even more important not to make assumptions.
Don't need a made up entities help
So everyone is deemed the same risk as everyone else so are they? No, theyre obviously not.
Yes they are! That's the point. The only safe way is to assume everyone you ever meet is a risk.
That's just common sense!"Yes, by all means assume it of course...it doesnt make it true in reality though | |||
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"just one reason I was beginning to have second thoughts about being on here as there are so many people who don't practice safe sex. How would I know if I met someone in a niteclub if they had safe sex with everyone else before they met me? I wouldn't but I assume that swingers have had sex with a lot more people so are more at risk. I wouldn't assume swingers have had sex with a lot more people. Eh, i would...and for obvious reasons. Always amazes me on these threads when you get the 'you could get knocked down crossing the road blah blah blah' brigade chiming in, as if thats some kind of argument. Yes, we know all forms of sex contain an element of risk, but some acts are far more risky than others, so therefore the name of the game is minimising risk as best as possible. Jesus, some people think its all or nothing, 'fuck it, you could get an sti from fingering...so bollocks to it all and lets all dive in and have unprotected double anal gangbangs!'
Obvious reason that swingers are the only ones having sex with multiple people? Hmm lemme think about that one lol.
Nope, didnt say that and you know it. Im making a safe assumption that swingers have sex with MORE people than non swingers...if you cant see the logic behind that, god help you
I can see the logic behind your thinking yes. But we are talking about meeting someone in a nightclub. That person could very well be a player and have sex with far more people than any swinger.
In light of the fact that this thread is about risks then it's even more important not to make assumptions.
Don't need a made up entities help
So everyone is deemed the same risk as everyone else so are they? No, theyre obviously not.
Yes they are! That's the point. The only safe way is to assume everyone you ever meet is a risk.
That's just common sense!
Yes, by all means assume it of course...it doesnt make it true in reality though"Agreed | |||
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"I really hanker after the seventies when the only thing we worried about was pregnancy. Was ignorance bliss?" what are you talking about, there wasn't hiv, herpes or clamidia around then. | |||
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"I really hanker after the seventies when the only thing we worried about was pregnancy. Was ignorance bliss? what are you talking about, there wasn't hiv, herpes or clamidia around then." I'm not sure about HIV but certainly syphilis, gonnorhea and other stis were about. The problem was we were not educated about them, we used condoms to protect against pregnancy and didn't know that they protected against anything else. If a woman was on the pill that was protection enough. That is what I'm talking about. | |||
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"I really hanker after the seventies when the only thing we worried about was pregnancy. Was ignorance bliss? what are you talking about, there wasn't hiv, herpes or clamidia around then. I'm not sure about HIV but certainly syphilis, gonnorhea and other stis were about. The problem was we were not educated about them, we used condoms to protect against pregnancy and didn't know that they protected against anything else. If a woman was on the pill that was protection enough. That is what I'm talking about." im surprised that someone of your age doesn't know about these things. | |||
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"I really hanker after the seventies when the only thing we worried about was pregnancy. Was ignorance bliss? what are you talking about, there wasn't hiv, herpes or clamidia around then. I'm not sure about HIV but certainly syphilis, gonnorhea and other stis were about. The problem was we were not educated about them, we used condoms to protect against pregnancy and didn't know that they protected against anything else. If a woman was on the pill that was protection enough. That is what I'm talking about. im surprised that someone of your age doesn't know about these things." My point as you know is that we didn't know in the seventies. Not that I don't know now. | |||
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"Ultimately a I shall say it again it's up to you to take care of yourself and don't worry about anyone else as what they do is their business and if you don't like it then avoid them
Jeeeez how fucking hard can it be to grasp that
Its not hard to grasp it at all, i havent read any comments from people struggling to grasp that. The op was probing why people would do it given the heightened risk...not asking whats the best thing to do regarding those who bb"They also asked what others thoughts are, these are my thoughts, protect yourself and let others do what they want, thank you for letting me make my point all over again, much appreciated | |||
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"Ultimately a I shall say it again it's up to you to take care of yourself and don't worry about anyone else as what they do is their business and if you don't like it then avoid them
Jeeeez how fucking hard can it be to grasp that
Apparently, very. At a sight of a condom, most go soft and it then becomes very difficult to grasp and slap one on. "Yes known as Wobbly Willy Syndrome | |||
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"hi" I don't know you others but the above comment is one of the most perceptive and erudite statements ever on this subject. In its brevity it encapsulates the author's views with uncanny accuracy. Its relevance to the matter in hand is precise and undeniably intrinsically valuable. Thanks! | |||
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"Ultimately a I shall say it again it's up to you to take care of yourself and don't worry about anyone else as what they do is their business and if you don't like it then avoid them
Jeeeez how fucking hard can it be to grasp that
Its not hard to grasp it at all, i havent read any comments from people struggling to grasp that. The op was probing why people would do it given the heightened risk...not asking whats the best thing to do regarding those who bb
They also asked what others thoughts are, these are my thoughts, protect yourself and let others do what they want, thank you for letting me make my point all over again, much appreciated "Yep, once again, they were asking for peoples thoughts on why some do it, not your thoughts on how to deal with those people who do | |||
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"Ultimately a I shall say it again it's up to you to take care of yourself and don't worry about anyone else as what they do is their business and if you don't like it then avoid them
Jeeeez how fucking hard can it be to grasp that
Its not hard to grasp it at all, i havent read any comments from people struggling to grasp that. The op was probing why people would do it given the heightened risk...not asking whats the best thing to do regarding those who bb
They also asked what others thoughts are, these are my thoughts, protect yourself and let others do what they want, thank you for letting me make my point all over again, much appreciated
Yep, once again, they were asking for peoples thoughts on why some do it, not your thoughts on how to deal with those people who do"  | |||
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"Why do people smoke, eat too much, drink excessively, text whilst driving, need I go on? Humans do all sort of things that there is very good evidence increases your risk of mortality and many of the above have a much higher mortality risk than barebacking So rather than narrow your question to a single activity maybe ask why in general humans act this way? I like this!!!" So do I! However I, of course, have none of the above faults and am like Mary Popins - practically perfect in every way!!  | |||
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"hi I don't know you others but the above comment is one of the most perceptive and erudite statements ever on this subject. In its brevity it encapsulates the author's views with uncanny accuracy. Its relevance to the matter in hand is precise and undeniably intrinsically valuable. Thanks! "Or to look at it in another way , it could be one of the most futile and irrelevant posts ever seen on the subject . Whichever way one perceives it , it's good to see people getting involved in a healthy debate | |||
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"Fuck me it's Groundhog Day!
Bareback or with a condom? "With a condom..... You never know where that groundhog may been! | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! What a fabulously put sentence ! Well done I give up!
Ummm, the OP's question could be considered as saddling on this mythical horse. Just saying...
But in answering the question, this lifestyle makes you more likely to pick up something nasty as you have more partners and more active sexually. While condoms help reduce the chance, it doesn't make you "safe."
It's the people that use condoms but don't ever get tested that people should be worried about....." | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! What a fabulously put sentence ! Well done I give up!
Ummm, the OP's question could be considered as saddling on this mythical horse. Just saying...
But in answering the question, this lifestyle makes you more likely to pick up something nasty as you have more partners and more active sexually. While condoms help reduce the chance, it doesn't make you "safe."
It's the people that use condoms but don't ever get tested that people should be worried about.....
Lets be honest here, no its not. Its those who dont use condoms are the ones we should be worried about. Lets not get silly now"So, for the record, you're saying if you use condoms then you don't have to get tested? | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! What a fabulously put sentence ! Well done I give up!
Ummm, the OP's question could be considered as saddling on this mythical horse. Just saying...
But in answering the question, this lifestyle makes you more likely to pick up something nasty as you have more partners and more active sexually. While condoms help reduce the chance, it doesn't make you "safe."
It's the people that use condoms but don't ever get tested that people should be worried about.....
Lets be honest here, no its not. Its those who dont use condoms are the ones we should be worried about. Lets not get silly now
So, for the record, you're saying if you use condoms then you don't have to get tested? "Using condoms and total protection from everything horrid only works when you rub bacon on it also | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! What a fabulously put sentence ! Well done I give up!
Ummm, the OP's question could be considered as saddling on this mythical horse. Just saying...
But in answering the question, this lifestyle makes you more likely to pick up something nasty as you have more partners and more active sexually. While condoms help reduce the chance, it doesn't make you "safe."
It's the people that use condoms but don't ever get tested that people should be worried about.....
Lets be honest here, no its not. Its those who dont use condoms are the ones we should be worried about. Lets not get silly now
So, for the record, you're saying if you use condoms then you don't have to get tested? "And also you can categorically state that you use condoms for oral and finger play too?? | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! What a fabulously put sentence ! Well done I give up!
Ummm, the OP's question could be considered as saddling on this mythical horse. Just saying...
But in answering the question, this lifestyle makes you more likely to pick up something nasty as you have more partners and more active sexually. While condoms help reduce the chance, it doesn't make you "safe."
It's the people that use condoms but don't ever get tested that people should be worried about.....
Lets be honest here, no its not. Its those who dont use condoms are the ones we should be worried about. Lets not get silly now
So, for the record, you're saying if you use condoms then you don't have to get tested? "No, where did i say that? I said the ones you should be worrying about are those that dont wear condoms | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! What a fabulously put sentence ! Well done I give up!
Ummm, the OP's question could be considered as saddling on this mythical horse. Just saying...
But in answering the question, this lifestyle makes you more likely to pick up something nasty as you have more partners and more active sexually. While condoms help reduce the chance, it doesn't make you "safe."
It's the people that use condoms but don't ever get tested that people should be worried about.....
Lets be honest here, no its not. Its those who dont use condoms are the ones we should be worried about. Lets not get silly now
So, for the record, you're saying if you use condoms then you don't have to get tested?
And also you can categorically state that you use condoms for oral and finger play too?? "Nope, i cant...where did you get that from? I just said the ones you need to worry about are those who dont wear condoms for penetrative sex | |||
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"It always amuses me how people on a site seeking sex with strangers, saddle up and mount their moral high horses because other deviants take more risks than them! What a fabulously put sentence ! Well done I give up!
Ummm, the OP's question could be considered as saddling on this mythical horse. Just saying...
But in answering the question, this lifestyle makes you more likely to pick up something nasty as you have more partners and more active sexually. While condoms help reduce the chance, it doesn't make you "safe."
It's the people that use condoms but don't ever get tested that people should be worried about.....
Lets be honest here, no its not. Its those who dont use condoms are the ones we should be worried about. Lets not get silly now
So, for the record, you're saying if you use condoms then you don't have to get tested?
No, where did i say that? I said the ones you should be worrying about are those that dont wear condoms" | |||
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"Fuck me it's Groundhog Day!
Bareback or with a condom?
With a condom..... You never know where that groundhog may been! "Don't you cast aspersions on my groundhog. The last owner was DocJohnson and it says on his FabS profile that he always practiced safe sex | |||
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