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"As the issue seems to divide so many, would it be an idea to have a group or forum for the people that do play that way? Could the non bare backers have a group too. Just saying " Why would you need one? I've never see anyone attacking people for wanting to use condoms. Well done to the op for daring to ask the question. But it didn't take long. Did it? | |||
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"As the issue seems to divide so many, would it be an idea to have a group or forum for the people that do play that way? Could the non bare backers have a group too. Just saying Why would you need one? I've never see anyone attacking people for wanting to use condoms. Well done to the op for daring to ask the question. But it didn't take long. Did it?" I'm not attacking but threads are open to all for comment | |||
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"As the issue seems to divide so many, would it be an idea to have a group or forum for the people that do play that way? Could the non bare backers have a group too. Just saying " Of course you are entitled to comment. Just didn't see what your point is, as every club that is listed on here is safe sex only. I have yet to see one that says bareback only! | |||
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"Good idea....I think those who practise bb should be free to do so openly, giving everyone a choice as to weather to meet them or not, rather than bashing them over the head with it and creating an environment where those who bb do it much more furtively.... I'm all for the idea. " Fair point. Wish more people had this attitude. Although I think more people do think like this. But they are afraid of the tar and feather brigade. | |||
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"Good idea....I think those who practise bb should be free to do so openly, giving everyone a choice as to weather to meet them or not, rather than bashing them over the head with it and creating an environment where those who bb do it much more furtively.... I'm all for the idea. " ![]() | |||
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"As the issue seems to divide so many, would it be an idea to have a group or forum for the people that do play that way? Could the non bare backers have a group too. Just saying " ![]() | |||
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"Good idea....I think those who practise bb should be free to do so openly, giving everyone a choice as to weather to meet them or not, rather than bashing them over the head with it and creating an environment where those who bb do it much more furtively.... I'm all for the idea. Fair point. Wish more people had this attitude. Although I think more people do think like this. But they are afraid of the tar and feather brigade." ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Good idea....I think those who practise bb should be free to do so openly, giving everyone a choice as to weather to meet them or not, rather than bashing them over the head with it and creating an environment where those who bb do it much more furtively.... I'm all for the idea. " Yes I'd much rather know.. | |||
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"Good idea....I think those who practise bb should be free to do so openly, giving everyone a choice as to weather to meet them or not, rather than bashing them over the head with it and creating an environment where those who bb do it much more furtively.... I'm all for the idea. Yes I'd much rather know.." This is the thing.....it allows those who don't want to bb to say no thankyou, and those who do will find like minds more easily..... I think clarity and an none judgemental environment benefits everyone, with or against bb. Those who judge to harshly only serve to make informed decisions murkier for themselves. Of course, those who are inclined to make themselves as appealing to as many others as possible by lying about it will still exist out there, but a higher level of honesty in general will certainly go some way to helping avoid that....that's my take on it...... | |||
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"how about an option like straight or bi - bareback or safe " We all have the option to NOT tick safe sex | |||
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"how about an option like straight or bi - bareback or safe We all have the option to NOT tick safe sex" oh yeah ![]() | |||
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"Are you going to have your own hut to stand in outside, like the smoker's? Maybe ban barebacking in public places like shopping centres and restaurants. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Are you going to have your own hut to stand in outside, like the smoker's? Maybe ban barebacking in public places like shopping centres and restaurants. ![]() ![]() ![]() ooh a bareback shed ![]() | |||
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"As the issue seems to divide so many, would it be an idea to have a group or forum for the people that do play that way? " . i would love that! I only do bb! | |||
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"This week and last week alone.the anti bareback and fab - gynaecologists keep lecturing adult how to practice safe sex.Same people give blow job without condom. Don't lecture me this is less risky compare to bareback.Both are bareskin. Swinging as whole is risky.if someone prefer to play bareback fun.who are you to lecture him or her. As for me I don't do bareskin. if someone else like bareback fun.i don't have the right to bash him or her because of this lifestyle. Grow up folks.this is adult site " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"This week and last week alone.the anti bareback and fab - gynaecologists keep lecturing adult how to practice safe sex.Same people give blow job without condom. Don't lecture me this is less risky compare to bareback.Both are bareskin. Swinging as whole is risky.if someone prefer to play bareback fun.who are you to lecture him or her. As for me I don't do bareskin. if someone else like bareback fun.i don't have the right to bash him or her because of this lifestyle. Grow up folks.this is adult site ![]() ![]() Amongst a community that should be more open minded than most the anti bareback prejudice seems to be the only one that is allowed to be openly & vigorously voiced. I wish I had a pound for every time on this site I have been on the receiving side of a sneering & sanctimonious lecture on safe sex. A bareback group seems to be fair and reasonable for a site that is after all for consenting adults. Do I think it will ever happen on Fab. No. | |||
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"Seems talking about safe sex/BB brings out the sanctimonious aggressive attitude in a lot of people no matter which side they are on " I cannot ever recall seeing anyone on fab being abused or insulted for insisting on safe sex! On the other hand people who bareback often feel it is necessary to hide this fact in order to avoid receiving abuse. | |||
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"Seems talking about safe sex/BB brings out the sanctimonious aggressive attitude in a lot of people no matter which side they are on I cannot ever recall seeing anyone on fab being abused or insulted for insisting on safe sex! On the other hand people who bareback often feel it is necessary to hide this fact in order to avoid receiving abuse. " You should read more threads ![]() | |||
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"Seems talking about safe sex/BB brings out the sanctimonious aggressive attitude in a lot of people no matter which side they are on Surely we don't need to have a 'side', it's simply about personal preference! " | |||
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"Seems talking about safe sex/BB brings out the sanctimonious aggressive attitude in a lot of people no matter which side they are on Surely we don't need to have a 'side', it's simply about personal preference! " We agree. Absolutely no need for it. | |||
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"Seems talking about safe sex/BB brings out the sanctimonious aggressive attitude in a lot of people no matter which side they are on Surely we don't need to have a 'side', it's simply about personal preference! " Our experience however is that being on the bareback "side" seems to provoke a great deal of hysterical abuse. So far the postings to this particular topic have been fine so far. If only that was always the case where the subject of bareback sex comes up. Going back to the original post the creation of a bareback group would not work if it simply acts as a target for abusive comments. Nobody would want to expose themselves to this. | |||
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"Here's a thought - why don't all the anti bareback preachers stay off this thread if they don't like it?... Waiting..." Here is another thought - why don't all the barebackers who like to troll other swingers with what they get up to with their 'outrageous' bareback statements all just shut up?.... Waiting... Not Really... Not caring... Everyone is an adult... ![]() | |||
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"how about an option like straight or bi - bareback or safe We all have the option to NOT tick safe sex" But having the option to tick both would be fairer.....what if folk are happy to play safe and to bb..... Not ticking safe sex doesn't convey that to the reader of a profile...having a single tick box gives the impression the profile holder only likes safe sex or doesn't like it rather than showing they like both.... | |||
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"Here's a thought - why don't all the anti bareback preachers stay off this thread if they don't like it?... Waiting... Here is another thought - why don't all the barebackers who like to troll other swingers with what they get up to with their 'outrageous' bareback statements all just shut up?.... Waiting... Not Really... Not caring... Everyone is an adult... ![]() You've just made that up. I can't remember even one instance of what you are claiming. Infact, your comment just proves that it's the hysterical anti-barebackers that do the trolling. | |||
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"Here's a thought - why don't all the anti bareback preachers stay off this thread if they don't like it?... Waiting... Here is another thought - why don't all the barebackers who like to troll other swingers with what they get up to with their 'outrageous' bareback statements all just shut up?.... Waiting... Not Really... Not caring... Everyone is an adult... ![]() What does that even mean How do you troll other people ![]() | |||
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"I don't know why it's so difficult to behave like adults and just respect other peoples choices even if they're different to your own Just have fun doing what you do ![]() This ^^^^^ ![]() | |||
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"As the issue seems to divide so many, would it be an idea to have a group or forum for the people that do play that way? " Just a reminder as to what this thread was all about as the subject seems to have been lost amongst all the insults. Please continue in an adult fashion. | |||
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"How do you troll other people? Easy by making an outrageous statement that is designed to upset other people. "Here's a thought - why don't all the anti bareback preachers stay off this thread if they don't like it?... Waiting..." " that's because whenever there is a bareback related post the forum seems to go nuts. | |||
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"Here's a thought - why don't all the anti bareback preachers stay off this thread if they don't like it?... Waiting... Here is another thought - why don't all the barebackers who like to troll other swingers with what they get up to with their 'outrageous' bareback statements all just shut up?.... Waiting... Not Really... Not caring... Everyone is an adult... ![]() I am quoting someone from top of the thread, how do I make it up? In fact your comment shows how much of you as a hysterical barebackers do a lot more of the trolling by taking everything out of context. I do not condemn barebacking, but this is the 12th bareback thread in 4 weeks. It is boring, if people bareback it is between themselves as adults. I am off to start the felching thread ![]() | |||
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"Here's a thought - why don't all the anti bareback preachers stay off this thread if they don't like it?... Waiting... Here is another thought - why don't all the barebackers who like to troll other swingers with what they get up to with their 'outrageous' bareback statements all just shut up?.... Waiting... Not Really... Not caring... Everyone is an adult... ![]() ![]() If it's boring you as a subject.....why open the clearly titled thread? With all due respect, there are many who are interested in the subject for whatever reasons, or just haven't seen all the other threads on the subject....things get discussed to death in here...not untill one person decides its now boring.... ![]() | |||
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"Are you going to have your own hut to stand in outside, like the smoker's? Maybe ban barebacking in public places like shopping centres and restaurants. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Please Please people. Let's not throw insults. It was just a thought that if bareback players had a separate group forum then this nasty and sometimes down right immature mud slinging could be avoided ![]() No need for mud slinging... the floor would be slippy for other reasons... ![]() | |||
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"Here's a thought - why don't all the anti bareback preachers stay off this thread if they don't like it?... Waiting... Here is another thought - why don't all the barebackers who like to troll other swingers with what they get up to with their 'outrageous' bareback statements all just shut up?.... Waiting... Not Really... Not caring... Everyone is an adult... ![]() ![]() ![]() Because it been a public forum n all can state my opinion. Democracy is a funny thing ![]() | |||
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"Seems talking about safe sex/BB brings out the sanctimonious aggressive attitude in a lot of people no matter which side they are on Surely we don't need to have a 'side', it's simply about personal preference! We agree. Absolutely no need for it." its the same with all differences - | |||
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"Here's a thought - why don't all the anti bareback preachers stay off this thread if they don't like it?... Waiting... Here is another thought - why don't all the barebackers who like to troll other swingers with what they get up to with their 'outrageous' bareback statements all just shut up?.... Waiting... Not Really... Not caring... Everyone is an adult... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() That it is.... I might walk into a bar I know I don't like and complain that its boring...because I can.. ![]() | |||
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"I have been at clubs and party's where women get fingered by loss of men and women all night do that all wash there hands in between no so finger skin and cock skin must be different could anyone tell me the answer " I do wash my hands. Even take showers. ![]() | |||
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"Good idea....I think those who practise bb should be free to do so openly, giving everyone a choice as to weather to meet them or not, rather than bashing them over the head with it and creating an environment where those who bb do it much more furtively.... I'm all for the idea. " THIS!!! I would rather ppl were open and honest about doing bare back, then I can choose not to meet them, instead of it being hidden due to the abuse they get, and then I don't have the choice available. ![]() | |||
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"people will always have a go at others for their differences whilst some accept them - some will be honest and open some will hide it - thats the way humans roll ![]() there are plenty of things I don't like, watersports for instance, doesn't mean its wrong, just not to my taste, Iv never understood the need to persecute others for not being clones of my own thoughts and opinions! meh... ![]() | |||
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"people will always have a go at others for their differences whilst some accept them - some will be honest and open some will hide it - thats the way humans roll ![]() ![]() I think its more about the environment the website creates than personal tastes at this point. | |||
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"There is only 1 way to have safe sex and that's to have NO sex whatsoever........" Seems like I involuntarily joined that group already !! ![]() | |||
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"There is only 1 way to have safe sex and that's to have NO sex whatsoever........ Seems like I involuntarily joined that group already !! ![]() Awwwwww........think I will to ![]() | |||
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"Wouldn't want BB all the time but love guys filling up the wife ![]() ![]() | |||
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"You should be able to search for bareback, You have a gold/silver badge if you are a member a green flag if you are photo verified and a green tick if you have been verified by a meet, All at the top of the page, How about a (B) badge if you take part in bareback sex and a (S) badge if you have sex with a condom, It stands out a bit more then ticking the safe sex box, That's if they are honest on their profile ![]() A few on here have safe sex ticked on their profile but say they BB so that might be a good idea... | |||
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"Life is all about choices, it's our choice to make x" And a calculated risk....play with strangers on spontaneous meets then expect the risk to be higher....play with someone that you have met at a social or before, then I would expect to know a little of their history...less risk You can lessen the risk by wearing condom for sex, but who in all honesty insists on condom for oral sex!!! | |||
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"I reckon there are loadss of ppl reading this that want to comment but too scared to because of condom police.. And to the brave who have spoken out on here about bb-ing...you've said what lots are probably thinking. . live and let live guys Ffs. .... Each to their own and all that ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Life is all about choices, it's our choice to make x And a calculated risk....play with strangers on spontaneous meets then expect the risk to be higher....play with someone that you have met at a social or before, then I would expect to know a little of their history...less risk You can lessen the risk by wearing condom for sex, but who in all honesty insists on condom for oral sex!!!" Meeting someone at a social makes it less risky? ![]() | |||
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"As the issue seems to divide so many, would it be an idea to have a group or forum for the people that do play that way? Could the non bare backers have a group too. Just saying Of course you are entitled to comment. Just didn't see what your point is, as every club that is listed on here is safe sex only. I have yet to see one that says bareback only!" Nor are you ever likely to! | |||
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"Good idea....I think those who practise bb should be free to do so openly, giving everyone a choice as to weather to meet them or not, rather than bashing them over the head with it and creating an environment where those who bb do it much more furtively.... I'm all for the idea. Yes I'd much rather know.. This is the thing.....it allows those who don't want to bb to say no thankyou, and those who do will find like minds more easily..... I think clarity and an none judgemental environment benefits everyone, with or against bb. Those who judge to harshly only serve to make informed decisions murkier for themselves. Of course, those who are inclined to make themselves as appealing to as many others as possible by lying about it will still exist out there, but a higher level of honesty in general will certainly go some way to helping avoid that....that's my take on it......" I agree with this ![]() | |||
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"take a look at the tag team. I run a group guys and sometimes the . ladies join us.... rearrange to meet ladies. who require a g*******. all group sex. we are based in norwich. if you're visiting I will come to your hotel. your house if your local. we also meet. on a friends sailing cruiser. on the broads. where we have fun and make waves. and sail to a pub. I like bareback. you can't feel. the lady threw a rubber. and when a lady. uses a femidom. they do not taste the same. when licking her out. your thoughts would be great... the tag team ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() My thoughts: That was nothing but a bit of self promotion with only the last sentence being relevant to the topic. | |||
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"take a look at the tag team. I run a group guys and sometimes the . ladies join us.... rearrange to meet ladies. who require a g*******. all group sex. we are based in norwich. if you're visiting I will come to your hotel. your house if your local. we also meet. on a friends sailing cruiser. on the broads. where we have fun and make waves. and sail to a pub. I like bareback. you can't feel. the lady threw a rubber. and when a lady. uses a femidom. they do not taste the same. when licking her out. your thoughts would be great... the tag team ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The site can promote discussion on the subject (so a forum group is a reasonable ask) for either side of the argument, but as with clubs what they cant do is be shown to be condoning BB sex, they have to be seen as advocates for safe sex policies. Most people, myself will agree BB is far more enjoyable, but when it comes to casual sex/swinging with numerous partners, it is far more risky, there are still risks with condoms but its reduced and thats the reality, we all know it is. I should be able to say that openly without judgementally being called a "preacher" or the "condom police" in the same way a BB sex lover should be able to express their preference with term like "idiots" and "prats" etc, especially in a place of adult discussion, but it doesnt matter to some, they have their point of view and no one elses matters, so they get trot our such terms in a defensive manner." I agree whole heartedly with this. The second people start using derogatory labels for a persons opinion is when it turns nasty and that was in the very first post | |||
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" There's already a tick box for safe sex so what more is needed? If it's so bad and you need privacy to do it or talk about it then why broadcast it here " I think the people who enjoy bareback would prefer to have it included in the preference list. That way, people who go bare can be looked up in the browse section. Someone who hasn't ticked 'safe sex' may not necessarily bareback. | |||
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"There isn't a forum for watersports or fisting or dogging so why should there be one for bare back? There's already a tick box for safe sex so what more is needed? If it's so bad and you need privacy to do it or talk about it then why broadcast it here, unless you enjoy the arguments ... " Think you missed the point. Has nothing to do with dogging, fisting or any privacy, it has to do with the attitude to those that like bareback sex. Didnt realise an explanation was needed on a swinging site but that i guess is why the OP is trying to secure a way for those that BB have a place.......... ![]() | |||
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"When having sex in the pool or hot tub condoms tend to be more awkward than usual Bare is natural after all Not that we are advocating it or anything Just do whatever works for you and fuck what anyone else thinks The original point, and where this is going, is that those who want to bareback need to make it easier to find each other and maybe the form can help streamline the process A handy thing with these conversations is it gets people who have posted the opportunity to contact each other Seems like there are a lot of bareback people in the south east and a lot of PMs being sent... (See you in the pool at Silverleigh tomorrow night) " ![]() | |||
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"Surely the best solution is for the two parties to stop having a go at each other? " That's part of it. But I genuinely believe bareback should be included as a preference tick option, like bdsm, watersports, webcamming, DP, and every other sexual preference. | |||
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"What are the total risks?" Sorry but what planet have been living on for the past 25 years? ![]() | |||
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"What are the total risks? Sorry but what planet have been living on for the past 25 years? ![]() Earth??????? | |||
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"What are the total risks? Sorry but what planet have been living on for the past 25 years? ![]() So why would you need to ask the question then? | |||
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"What are the total risks? Sorry but what planet have been living on for the past 25 years? ![]() I didn't? | |||
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"Cumming inside a woman's pussy is heaven !!!!!!!! Bareback is better !!!!!! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Group gathering numbers mmmm" Would love to join you in this xx | |||
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"Group gathering numbers mmmm" Count us in.... ![]() | |||
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"Here's a thought - why don't all the anti bareback preachers stay off this thread if they don't like it?... Waiting..." Not a hater ... Each to their own... but still can't believe others do it x | |||
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"**UNLOS** As the issue seems to divide so many, would it be an idea to have a group or forum for the people that do play that way? " Discussion must have gone well... | |||
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"Hey kid's. Play nice or I'll bang you're head's together. Taking the patronising high ground. As we are soft swingers, we think you are all disgusting degenerates. Mhwahaha Mhwahaha ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Here's a thought - why don't all the anti bareback preachers stay off this thread if they don't like it?... Waiting..." Amen! | |||
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"So long as we're all clean & tested ![]() ![]() . .Well I ain't gonna just take someone's word for it.. The ammount of meets some ppl have had I doubt they get tested every week | |||
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"So long as we're all clean & tested ![]() ![]() Well that is up to you...there is no point in testing every week as most STI's can take 2 weeks to show symptoms...so perhaps do your research before you diss all the bareback people... | |||
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"totally agree letall us barebackers stick together " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"A pig in a poke, do u really believe everyone u fuck bareback is being truthfull about not having warts hiv etc or is it the risk they might have that gets u excited?" Do you really believe that condoms are 100% 'safe'? | |||
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"A pig in a poke, do u really believe everyone u fuck bareback is being truthfull about not having warts hiv etc or is it the risk they might have that gets u excited?" Do you really believe everyone you fuck safe is telling you the truth.... And you do know you can still catch warts even if you use a condom..And a whole host of other things. | |||
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" Do you really believe that condoms are 100% 'safe'?" they not meant to be..... even the BSB kit mark on UK condoms mean they are 98% effective..... The only 100% safe sex is no sex, and i don't see anyone advocating for that on here yet.... However it is still 98% safer than not using one..... and thats the way i look at it... at the end of the day.... just with everything its about judging the risks you are prepared to take...... you can cross a road at a zebra crossing... or you can cross an 8 lane m25 motorway from one verge to the other.... I know which is likely to be more risky..... | |||
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"So long as we're all clean & tested ![]() ![]() i said in an earlier post i enjoy it more bareback. obviously it feels better but i said i would prefere to use a condom until i trusted the person. whats wrong with that? | |||
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" Do you really believe that condoms are 100% 'safe'? they not meant to be..... even the BSB kit mark on UK condoms mean they are 98% effective..... The only 100% safe sex is no sex, and i don't see anyone advocating for that on here yet.... However it is still 98% safer than not using one..... and thats the way i look at it... at the end of the day.... just with everything its about judging the risks you are prepared to take...... you can cross a road at a zebra crossing... or you can cross an 8 lane m25 motorway from one verge to the other.... I know which is likely to be more risky..... " Thats 98% effective at stopping pregnancy, not STI's. Like already mentioned you can catch a lot of STI's even when someone is wearing a condom. Like others have mentioned on this thread I cringe at some of the naivety people show on here. You are inviting strangers in to your sex life so to try and sit their all high and mighty and say "we don't entertain people that bareback". I think what you should actually say is that you don't "knowingly" entertain them! Like I said they are strangers and I would put money on it that you have already played with people that bareback. The other thing that gets me is the comments people make "you're playing russian roulette" etc. Really? Russian roullette you have a 1 in 6 chance of losing. Without looking at the most recent statistics you have more chance of being run over or murdered than you have of catching HIV; I use HIV as it's worse of the STI's and it can kill. Yes you can catch other STI's but then I resort back to my other comment, you can still catch an STI when using condoms, warts already being one mentioned in a previous thread, herpes and moluscum contagiasum to name but a few. You can also catch crabs, scabies or ringworm! I have an idea ![]() ![]() | |||
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" Do you really believe that condoms are 100% 'safe'? they not meant to be..... even the BSB kit mark on UK condoms mean they are 98% effective..... The only 100% safe sex is no sex, and i don't see anyone advocating for that on here yet.... However it is still 98% safer than not using one..... and thats the way i look at it... at the end of the day.... just with everything its about judging the risks you are prepared to take...... you can cross a road at a zebra crossing... or you can cross an 8 lane m25 motorway from one verge to the other.... I know which is likely to be more risky..... Thats 98% effective at stopping pregnancy, not STI's. Like already mentioned you can catch a lot of STI's even when someone is wearing a condom. Like others have mentioned on this thread I cringe at some of the naivety people show on here. You are inviting strangers in to your sex life so to try and sit their all high and mighty and say "we don't entertain people that bareback". I think what you should actually say is that you don't "knowingly" entertain them! Like I said they are strangers and I would put money on it that you have already played with people that bareback. The other thing that gets me is the comments people make "you're playing russian roulette" etc. Really? Russian roullette you have a 1 in 6 chance of losing. Without looking at the most recent statistics you have more chance of being run over or murdered than you have of catching HIV; I use HIV as it's worse of the STI's and it can kill. Yes you can catch other STI's but then I resort back to my other comment, you can still catch an STI when using condoms, warts already being one mentioned in a previous thread, herpes and moluscum contagiasum to name but a few. You can also catch crabs, scabies or ringworm! I have an idea ![]() ![]() I have an even better idea. If you're swinging be honest with those you swing with so they can decide, not you | |||
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"As the issue seems to divide so many, would it be an idea to have a group or forum for the people that do play that way? " Have your own site for all I care! | |||
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" I have an even better idea. If you're swinging be honest with those you swing with so they can decide, not you" In an ideal world everyone would be honest about all matters, there would be no wars or world hunger etc. I can't see that happening anytime soon. | |||
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"I have an even better idea. If you're swinging be honest with those you swing with so they can decide, not you" And my point is that maybe if everyone stopped stigmatising the issue then people would be more likely to be open and honest about it.... that said if bloke wants a shag and he knows if he tells you he barebacks he won't get one then what do you think most blokes will say? And before everyone jumps on that, yes, there are decent honest blokes on here but I don't think there will be many people that don't see truth in my point. | |||
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